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- 0:06[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome, Indie Carr fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's Indie Carr Report with Elijah Poe, just want to let everybody know we're a day late this week.
- 0:16[SPEAKER_03]: Couldn't get everybody together on Thursday, so we got everybody together on Friday.
- 0:21[SPEAKER_03]: Typically what we do is if there is a race on Sunday, we do Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, if there's a race on Saturday, we do Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
- 0:30[SPEAKER_03]: But no race this week, so we go on Friday.
- 0:33[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome guys, Elijah, take it away.
- 0:37[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, thanks for having us back.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_04]: We're coming off of a week at St. Louis and it's nice to be having a little weekend off here.
- 0:42[SPEAKER_04]: Michelle Garman joins us today and was unable to join us for our race recap that we had.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_04]: Michelle interested in hearing your thoughts on the Joseph New Garden when at St. Louis just a little bit over a week ago.
- 0:53[SPEAKER_02]: What a great win for him and Penske.
- 0:56[SPEAKER_02]: I liked the race, I thought it was a great race.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it's rare for Alex Flow's crew to make a mistake and he running, him running out of gas, costing him a little, even when even great teams there's human elements to it.
- 1:12[SPEAKER_02]: So to be humanists to air occasionally, they did that day, but I thought it was a really good race and a lot, good race for a lot of teams, but maybe not Ray Hall, Letterman, all right.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
- 1:27[SPEAKER_02]: No.
- 1:27[SPEAKER_03]: I'll say the link.
- 1:30[SPEAKER_03]: One of our favorite teams here on the Central Indiana Sports Report, not a good night.
- 1:34[SPEAKER_02]: I also felt bad for Marcus Erickson, who I thought had the best car for the majority of that race.
- 1:41[SPEAKER_02]: The two red flags hurt him, but came out with the delays for whether or the caution for whether, and then he just could not get around people there at the end.
- 1:52[SPEAKER_02]: Again, a great race for a new guy, to think the one thing that perhaps has really benefited how his injury has benefited him, I think it's created more patients in him.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's become a little bit more patient driver, and I think
- 2:08[SPEAKER_02]: And I believe that's paid off for him.
- 2:11[SPEAKER_02]: Good day for Pinsky.
- 2:13[SPEAKER_02]: The gamble on fuel was risky for Chip Ganesi racing, but they didn't have a bad night.
- 2:23[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I liked it.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_02]: I, and it was kind of nice to have some other drivers up there that you don't necessarily expect to be in the mix.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_03]: Good night from K.O.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_03]: Colette, and from Rina's VK in particular, I thought, even though Colette ended up finishing 23rd after an engine issue, but really good night for him.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_02]: I feel for him because he's doing well and he's getting so close and I think this is the second time.
- 2:49[SPEAKER_02]: He's had some kind of mechanical issue that's caused him in a race.
- 2:52[SPEAKER_02]: He's doing well in and then he had an accident in another race that he was doing well in.
- 2:56[SPEAKER_02]: But good strides by the rookie, he's looking good.
- 2:59[SPEAKER_02]: I think he and Dennis Hager are, they're going to be in Indie car for a long time if they want to be.
- 3:04[SPEAKER_02]: Unless they look to go elsewhere to try to form you on one somewhere down the road.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to be among the next generations of top drivers, and I would look for them on the next five years to be championship contenders possibly.
- 3:21[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're mostly past the looking to go to Formula 1 era of indie car.
- 3:29[SPEAKER_03]: I think most of the guys who are here now are here with their eye on indie car.
- 3:34[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's true.
- 3:34[SPEAKER_03]: Even with Colton Hurt, I'm making the jump to F2.
- 3:37[SPEAKER_04]: I think that was in the writing all along.
- 3:39[SPEAKER_04]: But you look at Alex Plohu, who went through a messy period of contracts with McLaren Formula 1.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_04]: Kyle Kirkwood has been rumored to make a jump to Formula 1 many times, but it looks like he's playing this his feet now in IndyCar.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it just goes to show you the momentum that IndyCar has as a sport as a whole.
- 3:55[SPEAKER_04]: Just in a couple of months, we'll have IndyCar racing on the nation's capital.
- 3:59[SPEAKER_04]: And we've got some really, really great,
- 4:01[SPEAKER_04]: races left throughout the season.
- 4:02[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't been in Milwaukee yet.
- 4:03[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't been to Rhode America, which was going to next.
- 4:06[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't been lagooned to say good and more.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_04]: So the series in general, I think is such a strong direction.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that goes from motorsports as a whole.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_04]: Even NASCAR Formula 1 pretty much top to bottom is all taking a boost and rise.
- 4:19[SPEAKER_04]: I think Indie Car has kind of cemented itself as
- 4:23[SPEAKER_04]: a series that is rising.
- 4:24[SPEAKER_04]: We're not the series anymore.
- 4:26[SPEAKER_04]: That has been floundering and empty stands for the past decade.
- 4:30[SPEAKER_04]: I think that the series has made a real change.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_02]: I certainly like it.
- 4:34[SPEAKER_02]: I find it to be more exciting.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably in the minority in our group.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_02]: I've never really been a big formula one fan.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_02]: If I've watched a formula one race, it's just because I want to watch a certain driver of they've been really successful.
- 4:49[SPEAKER_02]: I watched Louis Hamilton.
- 4:50[SPEAKER_02]: He was just wanted to
- 4:54[SPEAKER_02]: Or other indie car drivers may have been there, made the jump in the past.
- 4:58[SPEAKER_02]: I might switch to it, but I'm just never really gotten into Formula one racing.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_02]: I'm much prefer any kind of I think I prefer it because it's a great mix of road.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_02]: tree and ovals and I just think oval racing especially the short ovals and stuff like a gateway.
- 5:15[SPEAKER_02]: I just think those races are just more exciting.
- 5:18[SPEAKER_02]: I think they keep fans on the edge of their seats maybe more than a lot of road route, a lot of road or street races.
- 5:27[SPEAKER_03]: Need to see more long ovals though.
- 5:30[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's no doubt we need to be back on at least one or two other super speedways.
- 5:35[SPEAKER_04]: Indianapolis is great.
- 5:36[SPEAKER_04]: I think there's some super speedway work that could be done.
- 5:38[SPEAKER_04]: The maybe make sure these cars aren't quite as dangerous as they are.
- 5:42[SPEAKER_04]: That's obviously one of the main reason for a lot of teams and drivers is that super speedways are just too dangerous.
- 5:48[SPEAKER_04]: But I look at something that has card data and everybody hated it at the time and now super speedways are great.
- 5:53[SPEAKER_04]: It's something like
- 5:54[SPEAKER_04]: They restrict their plates.
- 5:55[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure there's something any car could do if they really wanted to go back to super speedways.
- 5:59[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't know.
- 6:00[SPEAKER_03]: They could do Elijah.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_03]: I've been saying it every week on this podcast.
- 6:05[SPEAKER_03]: Build new ones.
- 6:08[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 6:09[SPEAKER_03]: Build new friend Rogers got the money.
- 6:11[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it's not just that.
- 6:12[SPEAKER_03]: They're profitable.
- 6:14[SPEAKER_03]: Why wouldn't you build them if if you don't have them?
- 6:17[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about you, but I would love to see them go back to Texas and do a night, night race on Texas's party.
- 6:24[SPEAKER_03]: These cars cannot do that track.
- 6:26[SPEAKER_03]: That's why they're not there anymore.
- 6:27[SPEAKER_02]: I know, but I hate it because I was a great race track and it was great racing.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_02]: I just ate it.
- 6:32[SPEAKER_02]: I wish they'd find a way to make that be able to happen again because that was an always an exciting race.
- 6:37[SPEAKER_02]: I thought,
- 6:39[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we get maybe another oval here this next calendar season, but I also think that there's rumors that any car has been looking international as well.
- 6:48[SPEAKER_04]: So there could be a possibility of two to three new events coming in 2027 on top of the already new event coming this year with the nation's capital.
- 6:56[SPEAKER_04]: I know that's probably going to be a one off, but still a lot of new in indie car, which is what you love to see.
- 7:01[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, I want to be clear here.
- 7:03[SPEAKER_03]: They are a couple of super speedways away from having a really nice schedule.
- 7:08[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not complaining because even the tight narrow streets of Detroit was a very entertaining.
- 7:15[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Detroit was because it was tight.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_02]: It was speed bumps, but I believe it was an Alabama, right?
- 7:21[SPEAKER_02]: When they were an Alabama, I thought that was a move that one of the most boring pro races I haven't seen.
- 7:30[SPEAKER_04]: Barbara's not, Barbara doesn't bring the best racing in general, but it isn't any car staple at this point.
- 7:36[SPEAKER_04]: They've been going back there.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_04]: It feels like for a solid amount of years, but it's going to be interesting to see how the season plays out.
- 7:42[SPEAKER_02]: Going back to overseas or going to other countries, it would be great if one of them, like especially in Europe, if they would build.
- 7:50[SPEAKER_02]: put together somebody would buy land, Roger Penske's, shipgannas, guys have money and put up an oval because unless you're a P.C.C.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_02]: They've got oval racing can be exciting too.
- 8:02[SPEAKER_02]: The time difference is so great that they might tune in the Indianapolis 500, but I bet they don't.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_03]: It's not gonna happen again.
- 8:11[SPEAKER_03]: Not without you're being the impetus of an indie car, certainly not gonna be the impetus of that.
- 8:16[SPEAKER_03]: But I think South America's a whole different story.
- 8:19[SPEAKER_03]: I think South America is the place to grow.
- 8:21[SPEAKER_03]: If you're gonna do that.
- 8:23[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, maybe you're Tony Kinnan, could talk him into it down in Brazil.
- 8:29[SPEAKER_04]: As long as paddle awards on the paddock, there's no reason why Indie cars not racing in Mexico.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_04]: He's been vocal about it.
- 8:35[SPEAKER_04]: I think for the past almost five years that he wants to get it done.
- 8:39[SPEAKER_04]: And we know the fans down there won it as well.
- 8:41[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's the main issue.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_04]: This is something people want in Indie car just as actively not gone there yet.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why they haven't.
- 8:49[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know it's been probably logistically tough, but I don't think there's any excuse for any card not to be racing in Mexico City next year.
- 8:57[SPEAKER_03]: About Mexico City and Monterey.
- 8:59[SPEAKER_03]: I think Mexico's that big market that they should be thinking about things like that anyway.
- 9:06[SPEAKER_04]: That's a little bit of a
- 9:08[SPEAKER_04]: You could get them at Sao Paulo as well in Brazil.
- 9:10[SPEAKER_04]: What an absolute legendary racetrack that I think indie cars would be fantastic on.
- 9:15[SPEAKER_03]: If Formula One cars are good there, imagine what indie cars could do.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_03]: And this week we had two L-Cart Lake, which is one of the very best scenic tracks, probably the most scenic track on the...
- 9:32[SPEAKER_04]: calendar and it's produced a lot of great racing of like your expect expectations from next week guys it's going to be great and this is one of the I think this is better than the 500 it's hard to list more races that I'm excited for.
- 9:48[SPEAKER_04]: other than wrote America.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_04]: He's talk about the absolute scenery and beauty that El Cart Lake produces.
- 9:54[SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty incredible that show any carpets on there.
- 9:57[SPEAKER_04]: And I cannot wait to see cars go around.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_04]: I know obviously Alex Plough has been good there in years past, but where hasn't he been good?
- 10:07[SPEAKER_02]: That is true.
- 10:10[SPEAKER_02]: That is.
- 10:11[SPEAKER_04]: Since we brought it up, Alex Plough himself.
- 10:13[SPEAKER_04]: Let's get into some standings.
- 10:15[SPEAKER_04]: We have
- 10:15[SPEAKER_04]: Alex Plo with 342 points in 1st, Kyle Kirkwood, sits 49 points behind him, David Malukas 68 points behind Plo, Christian Lungart in 4th which I think is just a testament to how good Lungart in a ward are for sitting in 4th and 5th.
- 10:32[SPEAKER_04]: I have a salute, yeah, I know that with Christian Lungart 96 points behind in Plo ward 103 points behind with Joseph Newgarden, just 1 point behind Plo ward.
- 10:44[SPEAKER_04]: 104 points behind Alex Polo.
- 10:46[SPEAKER_04]: I know it's obviously Polo's the favorite in this championship battle, but nonetheless, we do have six drivers within a hundred points about the midway through the season.
- 10:56[SPEAKER_03]: I think there were no drivers with a 104 points at this time last year, right?
- 11:02[SPEAKER_03]: These are right.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_02]: This should make for an exciting, at least an exciting next couple of months to see if more inroads can be made into the lead or if Polo and Chip Ganesi in that 10 team if they start to stretch their lead.
- 11:20[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things I think that has really helped them is Polo has one
- 11:27[SPEAKER_02]: If he can fine continue to win polls and that I still say that finished a gateway was a little It just is what it had what it is and that mistake and they're not Probably they're gonna make too many of those along the way the rest of the season.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_02]: So I've never kept I've car anyway that on Sunday night Yeah, but he when you know what we say that, but he was kind of in that top five for a long time Okay
- 11:55[SPEAKER_03]: and he kept dropping and dropping until they went with a strategy move that almost paid off but didn't.
- 12:02[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, but a couple of reasons why they dropped it.
- 12:05[SPEAKER_02]: He had a good car early.
- 12:06[SPEAKER_02]: One was, they had, they had a little issue on pit road, which that's like two mistakes they made in the one race.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I don't think there's gonna be very many more.
- 12:16[SPEAKER_02]: And then when he made contact a little bit, he developed a little bit of an issue with the wing that they would not be able to take care of because it would have cost him.
- 12:27[SPEAKER_02]: Running out of fuel ended up doing that, but they tried to fix the wing.
- 12:31[SPEAKER_02]: that would have cost him earlier in the race.
- 12:33[SPEAKER_02]: So he's car went down, but it started out as a top five car, top six car.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think, but his driving was good enough.
- 12:42[SPEAKER_02]: He would have, he would have definitely finished in the top eight I believe.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_02]: I just, that's, that's my thing.
- 12:49[SPEAKER_02]: And some of these other drivers, I think, are going to have to find the extra points by winning some polls.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_02]: And then they're going to have, they're going to have to win more, a rate, more than one race.
- 12:58[SPEAKER_02]: I think a couple of races and just hope that Polo has more finishes outside that copy that top 10.
- 13:04[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll be honest, I'll be surprised if that 10 team finishes unless they record an injured blows finishes outside that top eight the rest of the way.
- 13:17[SPEAKER_04]: I think honestly, somebody who maybe has a shot to kind of surprise people is David Malukis and
- 13:28[SPEAKER_04]: I think air McLaren has been so bad recently, eventually they're going to have to turn that thing around.
- 13:33[SPEAKER_04]: It's not that they've been bad because we know, but the fact they're just not competing for wins is something that I would assume that they are very, very unpleased about because
- 13:49[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I agree with that.
- 13:50[SPEAKER_02]: I have a question for who does with as new guy and winning that race and kind of coming back into pinning future?
- 13:57[SPEAKER_02]: And I know you put your weight into all the cars in your stables, but I think focus goes more to the one than you think is the championship contender.
- 14:09[SPEAKER_02]: So who's pensky?
- 14:10[SPEAKER_02]: Who are they going to really focus on after the next couple of weeks?
- 14:14[SPEAKER_02]: Is it gonna be, well, Lucas, is it gonna be new gardener?
- 14:20[SPEAKER_04]: I think the next few races are going to determine that.
- 14:22[SPEAKER_04]: And I think when you look at Malukas and New Garden, I think they're both obviously going to compete at Malawaki.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_04]: So I think that double race at Malawaki is going to be a real big factor for Team Penske.
- 14:31[SPEAKER_04]: And I wouldn't be surprised if maybe even Scotty Mack wins one of those races at Malawaki as well.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_04]: You just never really know what the Penske on an oval.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_04]: If they've got the car right, there's no doubt it's the class of the field.
- 14:41[SPEAKER_04]: And I think we saw that with New Garden at St. Louis.
- 14:45[SPEAKER_03]: What we're most likely to see play out over the next few
- 14:50[SPEAKER_03]: fourth championship in five years.
- 14:53[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're not wrong there either.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_03]: But it's possible now, especially in a sport like this where a DNF can happen any week.
- 15:03[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's true, especially when we get into some of these ovals, there's no, it's just a keren's on Alex,
- 15:11[SPEAKER_04]: absolutely smoked the field, but then again, if he keeps on qualifying up front, I feel pretty confident about him running away with this one again.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_02]: Well, how about this in the past, if they've had a bad race resolved or made a mistake, he's come back in one the next week.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_02]: Do you get to do that again?
- 15:26[SPEAKER_02]: Next week at Rhode America, but we're not one of the last couple years, correct?
- 15:31[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, would not be shocked dominated.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_03]: He's good on ovals.
- 15:36[SPEAKER_03]: He's good
- 15:41[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's a perfectly put.
- 15:44[SPEAKER_04]: He has been absolutely dominant on all of these road courses and he cars been to in the recent years.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_04]: And wouldn't be surprised to see him in victory lane yet again.
- 15:54[SPEAKER_03]: Well, thanks so much, guys.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_03]: One thing I want to say before we go is shout out to Graham Ray Hall.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_03]: Three points outside the top 10 with a team that's kind of underperformed a little bit.
- 16:05[SPEAKER_04]: pretty incredible what Ray Hall has done this year.
- 16:08[SPEAKER_04]: Three podiums alone.
- 16:10[SPEAKER_04]: The only the person who's done that in Indie cars, Alex Polos.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_04]: That's a, that's a, that's a stat you need to hear.
- 16:15[SPEAKER_03]: Three podiums and five top 10s Michelle.
- 16:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know.
- 16:20[SPEAKER_02]: And he it's, it's been a good season except for a couple of races and tracks where he's just really bad misfortune or a really bad tar.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_02]: really.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that term.
- 16:34[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that kind of falls under misfortune.
- 16:38[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, he's led one lap this year and he's almost in the top 10.
- 16:42[SPEAKER_03]: Amazing.
- 16:44[SPEAKER_03]: Great year for Graham.
- 16:48[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much to Michelle and Elijah for joining me.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much for listening.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be back next week with an indie car report with Elijah Poe, hopefully Michelle as well and maybe some others.
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- 17:26[SPEAKER_03]: yeah I was 18 minutes ago 18 minutes of goal I love talking in the car this is gonna be in the sports sports I'm proud to write to you maybe and I sure do love