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Fact or Fiction? The Wildest Urban Legends · Tales from Incredible Tales

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  Speaker 1: So I was watching the movie, suddenly the door went
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  Speaker 1: off and no one walked past it. It was just
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  Speaker 1: me and my mom. My mom was just next to
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  Speaker 1: me and then he started singing like, can you imagine
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  Speaker 1: sing like a baby song.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Das.
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  Speaker 1: My name is
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  Speaker 1: Wayne. My name is
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  Speaker 2: Kyle, and this is Tales from Incredible Tales, inspired by
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  Speaker 2: the classic Mediacorp series where we explore different aspects of
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  Speaker 2: Southeast Asia's supernatural culture.
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  Speaker 1: Our guest for this episode is Das Didi. Das is
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  Speaker 1: a multilingual host, actor and comedian that you know from
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  Speaker 1: just swipe la.
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  Speaker 1: And all that glitters in 2023, Dust was named best
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  Speaker 1: rising star at the Star Wars. Das, welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show, my man. Yeah, so. Yes, we're very serious
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  Speaker 1: out here. That was just setting the mood. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was struggling to even set the mood.
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  Speaker 1: Very good. Thank you. Just to clarify, since we have
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  Speaker 1: our 4 races here, is this going to be the
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  Speaker 1: National Day episode? Unfortunately, no, SG 60. Every episode is
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  Speaker 1: a National Day. It's just that this is our CMIO
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  Speaker 1: but very, very close to SG 60 because tonight we
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  Speaker 1: are exploring Singapore's.
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  Speaker 1: Most popular urban legends from the Paqua ship dollar coin
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  Speaker 1: to the bones of the Benjamin Shears Bridge. This episode's
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  Speaker 1: topic is inspired by the original Incredible Tales episodes, White Lady.
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  Speaker 2: Every Singaporean supposedly used to carry around a good luck charm.
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  Speaker 2: Part of the Singapore dollar coin looks like a Chineseakoa,
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  Speaker 2: which is used in feng shui as a protection against
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  Speaker 2: negative energy.
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  Speaker 2: Rumor has it, Feng Shui masters warned that the then
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  Speaker 2: still under construction MRT tunnels through downtown Singapore would have
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  Speaker 2: a negative effect on us. So the dollar coin was
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  Speaker 2: a way to ensure that we all carried around a
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  Speaker 2: bakwa with us at all times. Some people even believed
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  Speaker 2: that this was the idea of our late Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: Lee Kuan Yew.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think there's some truth to this urban legend? Thus,
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  Speaker 2: when you did that video about ghosts in an offshore island,
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  Speaker 2: did you carry around a lucky or religious charm of
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  Speaker 2: any
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  Speaker 2: kind?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, definitely not a coin because we were cashless by then.
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  Speaker 1: No, but Dennis said that, you know, he, he carries
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  Speaker 1: a $1 coin as he filmed the entire series. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so he always has a $1 coin with him and
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  Speaker 1: he only told me once we came on set and
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to borrow. So I think people do believe
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  Speaker 1: in this and another thing is our SEF crest is
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  Speaker 1: also blessed by by the four religions and all that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: To make sure that we are safe when we go outfield,
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  Speaker 1: I mean touch if there's a war. So I do
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  Speaker 1: believe that like a lot of these symbolisms around us,
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  Speaker 1: the things that we carry around do carry a lot
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  Speaker 1: of meaning, but I never knew that the bawa thing
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  Speaker 1: was a thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: can I be honest? I didn't know as well.
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  Speaker 1: I, I, to be fair, I knew because of you actually.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like 95% of the supernatural things I know, right,
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  Speaker 1: all started with me.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, the moment I saw it, I couldn't unsee it. Also,
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  Speaker 1: the cresting, or we will get to that in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit as well. You're very good, very good. You're
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  Speaker 1: very good. You, you segue before you need to segue.
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  Speaker 1: What is? What is it like gossip? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: Paqua like the uh the 8 ships.
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  Speaker 1: See, see, there's a shape to it. I do love
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  Speaker 1: that Dennis carries around the $1 coin with him everywhere
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  Speaker 1: because I think I'm gonna start doing that as well.
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  Speaker 1: to hard to find, but if ever I need to
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  Speaker 1: go to the supermarket, I need to use the trolley,
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  Speaker 1: at least I got the $1 your groceries will be
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  Speaker 1: very well protected until you leave the place.
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  Speaker 1: I keep the $1. I don't, I don't give them. Well,
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  Speaker 1: come on, man, hard to find $1 yeah, yeah. There's
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  Speaker 1: another aspect to it actually that I like to share
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  Speaker 1: which is the, the crest of Singapore, the, the two.
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  Speaker 1: The two lions, yeah, the tiger, then plus the 5
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  Speaker 1: stars and the logo. So that, that actually that is
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  Speaker 1: also on our the press, yeah, so it represents the country, ah, like, like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in Mandarin it's called way and like there's the aura
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  Speaker 1: that because it's the highest government or its authority so
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  Speaker 1: then the go series scala.
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  Speaker 1: Supposedly, la, supposedly coat of arms is it, yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: coat of arms, the coat of arms, it's, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what it's called. Yeah, what I thought he was
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  Speaker 1: going to tell me, right, was that the lion and
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  Speaker 1: the tiger are positioned in a certain way so that
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  Speaker 1: the feng shui, right, will match the stars that will
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  Speaker 1: allow it to be a very protective and then very.
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  Speaker 1: I thought there was gonna be something you're just showing
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  Speaker 1: the right side of you but we can show me
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  Speaker 1: the camera.
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  Speaker 1: Writer technically professional liar. OK lah, yeah, like when you
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  Speaker 1: go on shoots, right, especially like, um, places that are
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  Speaker 1: a bit more ulu you bring protection. No, I don't
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  Speaker 1: I bring myself my confidence and uh.
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  Speaker 1: My confidence in the crew, I think that is very
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  Speaker 1: important also because you need to trust the people that
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  Speaker 1: you are going with and also you trust that everyone
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  Speaker 1: there is going to ensure that you know nothing bad
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  Speaker 1: happens and also this is very important thing called recce
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  Speaker 1: that we do before every shoot the DOP and the
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  Speaker 1: director will go down to make sure the place is
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  Speaker 1: safe as well. So um I think that's all am
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  Speaker 1: I like very underprepared.
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  Speaker 1: No, do you, has anything happened to you? No, other
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  Speaker 1: than the incredible Tales, other than the Kong Tian Kui episode,
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  Speaker 1: my life is great. There you go. You are, you
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  Speaker 1: are adequately prepared. Yeah, nobody asks me to go and
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  Speaker 1: host the event at a very like a remote jungle
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  Speaker 1: or anything. So I think I'm quite safe. Yeah, safe, right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of aunties they have the $1
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  Speaker 1: coin to protect.
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  Speaker 1: I don't you don't need one. I think the aunties
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  Speaker 1: will protect you, interesting, because most of the people, I
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  Speaker 1: think the cruises, la, especially, they will probably bring some
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  Speaker 1: form of protection, yeah, because you never know. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: feel until very late also, yeah, but 11 thing that
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  Speaker 1: uh is quite common in most cultures is salt la.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you bring salt like a packet of salt,
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  Speaker 1: then you can salt your food and then you can
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  Speaker 1: protect yourself. Yeah, salt your food. What? I mean, in
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  Speaker 1: case your food not salty now. I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Some people like their food salty.
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  Speaker 2: I
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  Speaker 2: think in Malays, uh, it's, it's more of the cause, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it must be cost,
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  Speaker 1: right?
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  Speaker 2: You did
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  Speaker 1: that
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  Speaker 2: or I think it's black pepper, is it
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  Speaker 1: black pepper
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  Speaker 1: or really seasoning.
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  Speaker 1: Funnily enough, talking about assault, we were just talking about
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  Speaker 1: this off-camera how you said that, uh, do it during
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  Speaker 1: Violet's episode your chair got kicked, right? I have a
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  Speaker 1: friend who says that she can see things. So even
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  Speaker 1: through YouTube videos and me watch videos, apparently still can
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  Speaker 1: see so la. So she saw next time I saw her,
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  Speaker 1: she gave me this giant rock of salt chip like hot,
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  Speaker 1: very nice.
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  Speaker 1: And she told me to just keep it just in case.
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  Speaker 1: Himalayan is it Himalayan salt? I don't think it's Himalayan salt.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just like the pink one the pink
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  Speaker 1: one the pink. It is pink, yes, yeah, rock salt
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  Speaker 1: for my bath that's what I thought it was for,
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  Speaker 1: and she's like, no, it's not very good for you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's bougie.
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  Speaker 1: I start with shower with me.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's good for your skin as blessed blessed blessed.
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  Speaker 1: I don't
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  Speaker 1: know. Can I just say we put the boo in bougie, yeah, so, so, so,
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  Speaker 1: so for the audience at home, right, actually we, we
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  Speaker 1: got a list of things that that you can almost
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  Speaker 1: everyday products that you can use to bless your house supposedly, uh, lemongrass, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the chaks and the cockroach don't like it, so does
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  Speaker 1: the hantu apparently, uh, salt, uh, then I guess pepper also.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and then, uh, supposedly a $1 coin. So everything
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  Speaker 1: that you can find in NTUC, not NTUC, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Supermarkets, supermarkets in all supermarkets in Singapore. Since we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about carrying uh lucky items, right, many Singaporean national servicemen
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  Speaker 1: believe that the crest on their bery has been blessed
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  Speaker 1: by the leaders of the four main religions. Wiki SG, however,
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  Speaker 1: claims that they have asked MINDEF about this, and the
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  Speaker 1: ministry has confirmed that the crest are not blessed. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's debunked.
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  Speaker 1: But one theory that we actually came up with, the
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  Speaker 1: rumor was started to boost the morale of new recruits.
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  Speaker 1: So in our last season, Mao actually had a story
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  Speaker 1: where his bere was tossed by the ghost, seemingly, uh,
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  Speaker 1: seemingly so. So do you think this changes the story
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  Speaker 1: of it? Yes, I feel I got scammed. I was told, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because, uh, when we are in BMT, we
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  Speaker 1: don't get our bure until we pass out from pass
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  Speaker 1: out from I think cadet school.
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  Speaker 1: Or something like that. So then when they got the beret,
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  Speaker 1: they say this beret is very special, it will follow
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  Speaker 1: you everywhere and it will protect you and it's protected
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  Speaker 1: by the four religions, but we don't bring our bereve outfield,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So technically our field is the time where
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  Speaker 1: I need the most protective, not when I'm marching in
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  Speaker 1: the parade, right? So I don't know in the house,
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  Speaker 1: so I feel like, um, I think it's good to
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  Speaker 1: know and also I understand how a lot of recruits
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  Speaker 1: might feel like very scared at the start.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess it helps to boost the morale. The
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  Speaker 1: white lie. I, I, you say white lie. I, I,
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  Speaker 1: when I found out that this was not true, right,
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  Speaker 1: I slightly offended. This whole no not that this whole
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  Speaker 1: time that was my belief was I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the crust will protect you no matter what and I
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  Speaker 1: said it with so much confidence just now. I when
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  Speaker 1: I was researching this, I sat on there. I had
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  Speaker 1: to take a minute, la, step away from computers. I
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  Speaker 1: cannot believe it's not true. This whole time I thought.
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  Speaker 1: I think we should put like a warning at the
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  Speaker 1: start of this episode. If you have not gone in
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  Speaker 1: for national service yet, do not watch this episode. I
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  Speaker 1: can watch but just skip this part. Now you can watch.
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  Speaker 1: Skip to our third story. Give time stamp or when
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  Speaker 1: to skip to, but I wanted to know right that
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  Speaker 1: like you do the night show from 12 midnight to 2.
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  Speaker 1: So this question is very pertinent to do you bring
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  Speaker 1: anything to protect you when you're in the conti alone
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  Speaker 1: and we realized that he's not in the Conti alone
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  Speaker 1: the entire floor.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, there was nobody. 12 midnight to 2 because I've
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  Speaker 1: never heard of any other radio station with like that
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  Speaker 1: that graveyard shift is what we call it. So do
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  Speaker 1: you bring anything to protect yourself? No,
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  Speaker 2: I just bring myself I think with my prayers, full
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  Speaker 1: faith faith, yeah, can I, can I just say right now.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly right, the most powerful object you can bring with you, right,
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  Speaker 1: dust has proven it fast confidence confidence. If you see something,
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  Speaker 1: then we see that's a different story. Then, then, then
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  Speaker 1: you got your backup.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't disturb then they don't disturb you,
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  Speaker 1: but you are literally telling ghost stories. How are you
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  Speaker 1: not disturbing them? I mean, it's like you're like literally
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  Speaker 1: like gossiping about them while they're right there hovering over you,
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  Speaker 1: you know,
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  Speaker 2: in Malay, in Malays people believe that. So if you
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  Speaker 2: keep on talking about them, right, they eventually will come.
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  Speaker 2: So are you calling me? You're telling stories about me
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 1: So which, which does bring up a good point why
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  Speaker 1: aren't you bringing anything with me? But,
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  Speaker 2: but this is, this is the thing I think in
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  Speaker 2: my religion we don't believe like something can, can, can,
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  Speaker 2: you know, protect you, only God can protect you. I
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  Speaker 2: mean in my religion,
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  Speaker 1: but you are a filmmaker and you're doing this show
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  Speaker 1: for seasons. Like what do you do to protect yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Do you bring the coin?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, no, uh, depends on the location because this is,
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  Speaker 1: this is our studio, so, uh, this studio is consecrated already,
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  Speaker 1: so it's blessed. It's very, very safe, very, very safe. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: but if I'm going for all those shoes, I will
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  Speaker 1: bring Amulet or sometimes I do bring salt la uh.
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  Speaker 1: Truth be told, I don't really believe in the $1 thing.
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  Speaker 1: What if it's one of those, uh, national service camp
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  Speaker 1: where they tell us that, you know, it's less and
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  Speaker 1: then the octagonal, maybe they just like the design, it's
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  Speaker 1: easier to put inside a trolley.
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  Speaker 1: You
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  Speaker 2: So let me ask, if you bring the salt with you, right,
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  Speaker 2: so what do you do with the salt? You just,
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  Speaker 2: just put it inside
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  Speaker 1: your pocket, put it in your pocket in a packet, la,
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  Speaker 1: not just like put rip
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  Speaker 2: you don't throw it or you don't you yeah,
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  Speaker 1: then it's like, like for new homes is they scatter
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  Speaker 1: salt and rice at the corners. Yeah, be wasteful, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean if you want to protect yourself from the ghost,
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  Speaker 1: it's OK salt. It's it's a good investment, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess I, since we started doing this, I think
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  Speaker 1: it was last season.
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  Speaker 1: So last season art was very sweet. Um, Art passed
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  Speaker 1: us when we were doing outdoor shows, he passed us
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  Speaker 1: a Thai amulet that, um, a Buddhist Thai amulet that
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  Speaker 1: I still have in my house, um, but I come
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  Speaker 1: from a Catholic family, so when we did the outdoor shoot,
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  Speaker 1: I went all the way out, la. So I brought
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  Speaker 1: like the Catholic rosary.
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  Speaker 1: I brought the Buddhist amulet, the art pastors. Uh, we
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  Speaker 1: had the Taoist talisman that Master Jason gave us. I
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  Speaker 1: got that. There was a certain color underwear that I
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  Speaker 1: was supposed to wear or not supposed to wear. I
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  Speaker 1: followed the rule on that one also. Can you tell
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  Speaker 1: us more about that? What was not supposed to wear red, right?
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm supposed to wear it. OK, so I, I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't remember whether yes or no. I wore red underwear.
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  Speaker 1: I saved that one pair of underwear down there just
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  Speaker 1: for the outdoor shoot.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like an Avengers of protection.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the ghosts also like this guy, this
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  Speaker 1: is Singaporean this guy pick up your mind, man, which
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  Speaker 1: one you want.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, since we have you on the show, does do
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  Speaker 1: you anything creepy happened on set recently or like since
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  Speaker 1: we last met, but nothing has happened in my, in
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  Speaker 1: my life. I think a lot of things that happened,
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  Speaker 1: scary things that happened in my life doesn't involve ghosts.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's enough, there's enough, yeah, yeah. How about
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  Speaker 1: you guys? Anything happened recently? I want to know. OK,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we can, I mean, I'm sure you have
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  Speaker 1: like I feel like every week he has every week
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  Speaker 1: something happens to you. No lah, no, no, but, uh,
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  Speaker 1: since we're on this topic on like towing the line, right, uh.
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  Speaker 1: I can we can talk about like what happened last
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  Speaker 1: season when we did the outdoor episode, uh, uh, for Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: So the outdoor episode was shot in Hopa Villa, and
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  Speaker 1: then we had a segment where it's called Walk of Courage,
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  Speaker 1: basically a pair of two people they walk around like
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  Speaker 1: you want, I can walk, but there's no courage, courage,
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  Speaker 1: walk of shame, walk of weakness, possible season for walk
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  Speaker 1: of courage. 1 kilometer.
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  Speaker 1: 1500 m, I think I think it's quite fast. So
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  Speaker 1: what happened? So, uh, nothing much happened to us in
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  Speaker 1: particular except for the previous host of, uh, Tales from
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Incredible Season 1 and 2, Raihan Yao. We had standing
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  Speaker 1: order from the production team to say that if you
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  Speaker 1: see anything, try not to say, right, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you might attract his attention and he actually saw something.
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, got a lot of statues, right? And
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  Speaker 1: there was one that's standing there like maybe it's a statue,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a statue. He told me it wasn't that
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  Speaker 1: it was moving, yeah, and he saw and then he
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  Speaker 1: was like, he reacted to it and when we were
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  Speaker 1: doing the talking head after, right, because we were wrapping up.
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  Speaker 1: And he said that, and then I think uh it
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  Speaker 1: attracted the attention of that particular entity that he was
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  Speaker 1: trying to attach itself to him, and he was very
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  Speaker 1: close to being possessed. So we were quite concerned for
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  Speaker 1: him and then he did his prayers, his faith was strong,
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  Speaker 1: so I think he managed to repel it. And at
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  Speaker 1: the same time when I was doing the talking because
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I'm directing and hosting, so I'm looking at art, because
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  Speaker 1: I want to check his eyeline whether he's hitting the
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  Speaker 1: the the close up came or not. I was looking
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  Speaker 1: at him.
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  Speaker 1: And then I saw his island shifted. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what is he looking at? Because behind us is the
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  Speaker 1: main gate of Hopa villa and then a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of trees.
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  Speaker 1: He was looking at the trees because art has the
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  Speaker 1: third eye. So I turned and I saw, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't have the third eye, but I saw what he saw.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: It's basically a shadow jumping from one tree to another,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: like a full black, like a person, but full black
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: jumping from one tree.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And I know better. OK, I better shut up. I
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: don't say about it. Yeah, so when I was safe
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: in my studio, then I talked about it. I didn't
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: talk about it on set immediately because I know better
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: not to lah. Not saying that Rihan didn't know better.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I understand where Rihan was coming from because he wanted
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: to create content. It's like we we we as creators,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: we excited, something happened, let's talk about it, but sometimes
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you need to.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: You all need to understand that we put our lives
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: on the line, right, and there's a fine line, right,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: that that we can cross or not cross. So sometimes
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: if we make the wrong decision, right, it can affect us. Yeah,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's a judgment call that we have to
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and also I think sometimes the moment is we feel.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Appropriate to talk about it. After that wall over already,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: go back to studio, sit down in the aircon and
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: talk about it. Sometimes the effect may not be there,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, so I just now
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: earlier I saw something is it? OK, you want to
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: go home. Thank you.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I, I remember that and like what we,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: what we captured uh for the walk of courage, the
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: video itself, right? I don't think it does justice to
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to how scary it was scary is one thing, but
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: like how.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Almost traumatized Rihan look I, I distinctly remember him walking
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: towards us, right, and all of us were like, oh, OK,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap through everything. All of us turned towards
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: him and then just everybody just went silent because you
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: could see his face like, and, OK, like, he was
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: wearing clown makeup lah, so a bit pale la, but
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: even then you could saw a towel, he was just
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: like distraught.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Did did Rihan say what did he saw?
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like something, uh, I think.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Pochong I think and uh he and it didn't help
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that I was like.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: You need to, you need to pray or something for
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: him like there's a lot of energy around you.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and, uh, yeah, I was very nice. I offered
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to sage and all that kind of thing is great.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I really watched him from like the from a very
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: young MTV and then I saw Incredible Tales and all that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: After hearing all this, I don't think, I think I'll
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: be fine. I don't have to be friends with him.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I cannot deal with someone telling me like, oh, by
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the way, there's energy around you. I ignorance is bliss sometimes,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you know. I think, OK, the wonderful thing about art
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: is right, I think he understands anybody who would rather
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: take the ignorance is bliss than something because I think
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: he's that way with me. He was that way with
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: me and then, um, because we shot it out of
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: order like, um, the episodes, so he was that way
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: with right hand when we did the Bukit Brown episode
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: as well. So he was.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: With, with me and with with Raiha, he's completely distracting us,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: just being very entertaining and then like, you know, very jovial,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just joking about that, but I just feel like
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I think in that moment his advice was very critical
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: like to to pray and I think maybe Raihan was too.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: He was too dazzled, you know, to like make decisions
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: on his own, but I wanted to ask you, so
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: what happened was he saw the thing and the mistake
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: he made was talk about it immediately, is it? So
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: when he saw it, it was fine. It's only after
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: he said, Oh, I saw then after that then the thingy, yeah, yeah. Then,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: then I think he attached himself and I think because
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: uh he was very tired, uh, overworked la, then uh
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: your constitution weaker then they can they can tend to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: latch on.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that that that is a judgment
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: call thing. Yeah, I, I mean, I'm I'm very happy
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: that he he he did it, but I'm also very
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: concerned as a friend that is safety first lah, come on, yeah, yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: So that's why we we always draw a line where
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: we don't go too far, but then the line is
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you can move, which what is too far.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Uh, a horror show on your radio from 12 midnight
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: to 2 a.m. So are there any moments where you
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: feel like, I think I should stop talking.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: So there's this one moment, uh, I remember talking about
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Kampong Pungo. So there's this sender, they send their story
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: about Kapong Pungo. So back then it was called Kampong Pungo, right?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: So not not much buildings or whatever, not right.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: So I remember in the story I was talking about
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: uh Pontana, you know, so the father saw a Pontian
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: in the window, right, so as soon as I talk
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: about it, as soon I said um
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Ayannapa Adekaimput Birkiardiing up, you know, and then suddenly there's
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: a paperback, OK, opposite
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: way just translate it said my father saw a white
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: cloth flying at the window.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Amazing. Alright, so as soon as I see that, you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: there's a paper bag inside the paper bag there's a phone,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: and then there's a mic like, you know, the level
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a mic, right.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Suddenly, all of, all of a sudden there's no wind,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: there's nothing, you know, suddenly pop and it was super loud,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: you know, it was like, it's not like it, it fell,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: but it's more like someone slam it, yeah. So on
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: air you can hear that I was like I you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: legit can hear now like I stopped for a while,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: then my, my, my, I goosebump all over my body,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: you know, I was like my body suddenly turned very hot.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, what should I do? Should I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: continue the story or should I just say, OK, I
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: will continue later, you know, I don't know what to do.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Then I decided to continue the story. I end the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: story first, and then throughout that night, right, I felt
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: something was inside the conti with me.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I felt like, you know, you know, the, the, the sensation,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the feeling that, you know, somebody's like watching me, somebody's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: like behind me walking around, you get what I mean,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: so I felt that,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: but, uh, I mean just to add on, like on
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the ghost stories, right, you know, la, so Kong's, uh,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: his slogan is izaing Tamen I think like if you're listening,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: so are they, right? So when you talk about them,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it tends to attract them. They can come and recently
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I found out that they don't abide by time and space.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So they can just come here. So what happened during
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the island episode, uh, when the person said that name, right,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: it attracted it because they go by name and image,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, so that's that's the scary part when
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you say that Kaka story, that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: summons and then to follow up with the story, uh,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: that particular week I have no idea why, but there's this, uh,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: so I do TikTok live from 10 a.m. to 2 a.m.,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: so concurrent with radio, OK.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So when I was doing live, there's this random viewer.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: It's not like, you know, she, she, she's not watching
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: me every day, but that, that particular day, I don't
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: know where she's from Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia. Suddenly she told me, right, uh,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Adi Adidu means death two. I was like I was
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: like reading the comments there to what, what, you know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I pay they do, right? I asked her and then
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: she told me one young one old s Satutu satumude.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, what is Satutu satumu? Why is one
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: young one old? And she's then, uh, the viewer told me,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know, uh, the viewer told me.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Behind you and then at that at that at that
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: moment also my, I don't know why I don't know
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: whether it's a placebo effect because somebody told me and
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: then I got scared or what but but that that
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: particular week is a lot of things happen at that
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: particular week. Um, I think if I want to continue
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: the story, um, so I think that Friday, so it
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: was my last day of working for that particular week. Uh,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: after my show, after 2 a.m. I went to JB
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: la basically I'm going to JB with my brother and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: also my fiance.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Uh, so I, I, I fetched my fiancee at Jurong, right, I,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I won't name the place, but, uh, and then I
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: waited for my brother to fetch me, uh, using his
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: car lah. So I parked my bike at the car
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: park and then I went to sit at the void
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: deck with my fiancee. Uh, so when we were sitting,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: we were just talking. Suddenly there's a, you know, kaka,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: the sound, the laughter, kaka laughter.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Ah, you know, and it was like it was far,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: you know, the sound was very far, but it was
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: so clear, it was very crisps, you know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Did your
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: fiancee
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: hear it?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So here's the story. My fiancee, the first time she
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: heard it, she's like nothing like that one, that one bit, she, she,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: she go and say it, that one bird la. Then
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: when she exactly after she said that one bird la,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: then suddenly another uh the sound happened again, the laughter
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: sounded again.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Then I was like, then I was like telling her
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: why you go say it out loud, why you have
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: to go then then like we were scared or we
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: were scared. Then we want to go JB, right? So
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: long story short, my brother fetched me, so my brother
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: was driving, my fiancee is scared to be alone behind.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: She's sitting in front and I sat at the back,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: at the back of the seat. So it was a, uh,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the car was a vessel, OK, Honda vessel. So we
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: went through the ICA in the customer checkpoint, right? So
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the IC officer, we give our passport. The IC officer
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: asked us, uh, how many people are standard, right? They
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: were asked how many people.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Then I say like 3 people. OK, then I see
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: officer check. OK, ah, for him, uh, this one, this one,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: this one. Then he ask again, you know how many people, ah, 3330,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: then he checked again or he checked again. Oh, this one,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: this one, this one. Then he asked the third time
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: for the 3rd time he asked how many people.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: And at that point of time my brother looked at me,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: my fiancee turned around, looked at me. I look at
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: my brother. I look at my fiance. I think somebody, uh,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: something followed us already, yeah, because it cannot be what there's,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: there's no reason for, you know, like I've been to
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: JB a lot of times. It rarely rarely the officer
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: will ask me how many, how many people 3 times,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you know, let's be honest, so
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: then, then did they did they detain the 4th person
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: just let us go power of the press.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: So he's just like, OK,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I'll go out, and he was a Malay officer, you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: so he knows. I,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I, I, I'm not sure, but then right after that we,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: we got a hotel with our cousins and our cousins
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: were all waiting at the hotel, right? So after we
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: slept the next day, then we felt, OK, if not
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the whole night, right, we felt like we felt off
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: off because of the
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: incident.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So this one, this urban legend is a little bit darker.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: It's a lot darker.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Um, so in the late 70s, around the time of
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the construction of the Benjamin Shears Bridge.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Child kidnappings were rampant in Singapore.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: The rumor was that the children were taken for their hits.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Which were used in the foundation of the Benjamin Shears Bridge.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: There's even more far-fetched like to build on top of
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the actual rumors, there are even more far-fetched theories that
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: um
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You know, the, the, the kids weren't just being kidnapped.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: They're being kidnapped by witches or creatures that were hired
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to kidnap these children for their hits. I have heard
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of this. You have,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I have to,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I like how this is, this is the one that
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: everybody has heard of. Who told you? My mom.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Like my mom has told me that uh, because my
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: mom was born in the 60s, so 70s. Rumor has
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: it that during that time, kids just go missing. Yeah,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: just go missing out of the blue there's no explanation
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: for it and this doesn't only happen in Singapore. In
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: other parts of the world like when big bridges are
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: built like kids just go missing and and then when
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you associate that with the bridge that is being built,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like you can only put 2 and 2 together and
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: guess what it is.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I heard, I go ahead. I've heard variations of it,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: so I, the one I heard is that their whole
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: bodies were used as part of the foundation. The hits
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: one was like, um, that just adds an extra level
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: of I didn't know specifically but I mean I feel
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: like if you need a hit, you have to take
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the whole body. That's why it's I'm trying not to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: make like horrible jokes. I'm I'm exercising this thing called
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: self-control you and I need to work on, I think.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Have you heard of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: it?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I had, but it's for other countries. It's from, it's not, uh,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: for the Benjamin She's bridge. I think it's a bridge in.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: It is Saba Sarawa or Indonesia. I kind of forget.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: So it's an urban legend there. They, they, they, uh,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: it's where they kidnap kids and then they use it
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: because apparently if they don't do that, the bridge will collapse, yeah.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Uh it was told to me uh by my grandmother
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and this was, I grew up in the 90s, so
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: she was telling me what, if you go out at
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: night as a small boy, you get kidnapped and your
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: head will be used, your head will be used as
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a bridge thing.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Then she just left it there. They never explained or anything,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: just you will get kidnapped and then your head got
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: chopped off, then use as foundation for bridge. Just, just that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I have met your grandmother to a 6 year old,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and I can imagine her doing that to you when
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you were 6 and then just walking off. Yeah, then
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, huh, then you're like, then you, you
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: traumatized already, then you start thinking.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: But, uh, I like to imagine that if this was true,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: then there needs to be a shadowy organization that organizes
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: this thing because as Singapore, we are very productive country.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: So everything needs to have black and white, everything needs
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to have department, must have department head, must have executive
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: order this. So you're talking about an entire organization that
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: does that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That is probably led by someone who is like a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: spiritual master or someone who practices black magic to do this,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know what that's the interesting thing.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I didn't, I didn't hear
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: about this until maybe my late teens, early twenties, everything,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: but I was a kid, same thing with my parents.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: It's always the case of, oh, if you go out
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: at night, you confirm gonna kidnap, but mine was they
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: got it they went a bit darker confirm gonna kidnap
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and then sold into slavery. I was like, what? I'm 6.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Why are you telling me this?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: So now I'm confused whether our parents are just telling
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: us this to scare us, that we don't go out
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and be alone or it's legit, yeah, but I feel
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: like maybe there's some truth because there's a conspiracy at
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: that point you just use it to traumatize
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: us
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: because when I was young like, you know, all the
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: machichi oil they will say like, oh, don't after before dust,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, they want before dust.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Uh, make sure you go home. If not, the Hantu
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: will
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: then here
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you are doing a show from 12 midnight to 2 a.m.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: very obedient to all the marching.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: But how Facebook right? and I'm grown up, but it's
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the clothes on you all heard about the legend about
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the clothes one like, you know, like HDB, right, you
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: grow out HDB, we hang clothes outside. Then there's a
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: legend because my, my grandmother, she grew up in Malaysia,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: so kampong, la, she said they will always keep the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: clothes at night because if let's say the Penanggao flyover
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: is a is a gold star with hate and entrs only.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Then, uh, the blood drips on your clothes. You get
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: cursed and you will die within a week. Yeah. So
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: when I wash clothes, they say, you don't hang at night,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you don't hang at night. You bring it back, you know, ha,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I mean like if you think rationally, right, is it
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: because if like because at night you're sleeping edema. So
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: let's say if it's rain, it rain or what, right,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: then your your your your your clothes will get wet again,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and then there double job.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You waste water. You waste, uh,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: so, yeah, it could be. So, so the takeaway is
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that the, the machis of the era, right, they trauma
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: us to saving water and being safe, I guess, uh,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: there's a, there's a silver line. I think the takeaway
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of this, right, is all the hantu getting blamed for
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that they're not responsible
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: for them
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But I mean that goes back to what we what
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: we said quite a number of times before where, you know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: all these ghost stories, all these urban legends and everything there.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: It's it started because somebody, some parent doesn't want their
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: child to do a certain thing. I don't want you
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to go out late at night. I don't want you
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to do this. I don't so I'll make some story
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: up and then scare the crap out of you, and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: then you of course, listen.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: All right. Our last urban legend involves one of the
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: most popular kids show in the world. Many Singaporeans who
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: bought Teletubby dolls back during the show heyday claimed that
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the dolls were possessed by satanic forces and came to
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: life at night.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: While debunking this urban legend can be a bit tough,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: since all the supposed incidents were almost always from a
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: friend of a friend, the fact that another popular kid's storyline,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the Furby, were also accused of being possessed makes the
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: demonic Teletubbies seem less plausible.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: So did you or anyone else have a Teletubby doll?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: What do you think of this urban legend? Actually I do.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I did, I did have one.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: You had Teletubby pink color one, red red I'm color blind,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: so the smallest one.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: sizes,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: so the, I know, he was the youngest, he was
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the youngest Teletubbies. Oh,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: is it? Oh yeah, so
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: so
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the last one means the youngest,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I think so,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: he's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the cutest one.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, he's
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: my favorite actually
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: doll, right, if I recall correctly, like the eyes were like.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to activate that, but it will
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: like
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: blink. No,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: no, no, no, no, it's, it's when we bought it
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: it was like that, but I honestly I can't recall
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: what happened to it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I don't have a, but I had a doll and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: it was a haunted doll, yeah, so you tell the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: story first. Oh that was.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: What advertisement or what you tell ghost stories just telling
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: us that you got one. I had nothing happened lah. OK.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So there there was once my dad bought me uh
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a doll when I was really young. It's like a,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: it's like a.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: It's like a teddy bear, but then there is a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: sensor in front. So if you like, for example, then
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: you know, kids, you walk past it or touch it
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: or sing a song or whatever. So there was one,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I put it on top of my piano at home.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I know I'm very like classy. I can play the piano, yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Then I was watching TV with my mom and we
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: watched usually on Saturday until very late at night. The
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: house I was living in is already was creepy at.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: There were a lot of like sometimes when I'm at
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: home I feel someone walking behind me. I think my
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: mother went to the room, but she's still in the kitchen,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that kind of weird stuff constantly happens. So I was
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: watching the movie, suddenly the door went off and no
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: one walked past it. It was just me and my mom.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: My mom was just next to me and then he
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: started singing like, can you imagine sing like a baby
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: song like something like that.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: OK, so then I looked at my mom and clearly
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: both of us are very freaked out. Then after that
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I looked at. What's that? They say, oh no, no,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: this kind of things happen. I think the sensor got
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: a problem, but then later on we realized that it's scary.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: So I think it's very important, right, when we bring
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: in images of other things to our home, I think
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: it's important for us to know that um it not
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: only can be haunted, but
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: It gives the opportunity for these entities to use those
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: things to like gain attention from you. Actually
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: it's quite true because in Malay right in my religion,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: not in Malaya in my religion by that we are
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: not supposed to keep all these like teddy bears, um,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: dolls and whatnot because uh.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: All these entities, they like to go into them and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: they possess the the best they did. They seek refuge
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: in in the best. So every now and then sometimes
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: you put on the table then suddenly sitting at the chair.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Then sometimes when you're sleeping, you wake up, you see
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: like the why the teddy bear looking at me like that,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: you know, you get what I mean. So
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: yeah, then you go the ghost la creepy.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: You have uh I don't I didn't, I didn't have Teletubbies.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, uh, jumping onto what you mentioned right about
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: doors being because, uh, actually we also believe in that, uh,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: so there's a way to negate it. So especially for,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: you know, nowadays a lot of people like to collect
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: all these figurines and stuff, right? Uh, one way that
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I've heard is actually you paste a red, uh, square.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Paper on the bottom of it and that's it.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Or in in in my religion we believe you just
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: play with it, honestly, honestly, if you buy a lot
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and it's for decoration purposes, right, I think today you
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: take this one, you play with it, you put back
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: then tomorrow you take this one and you play with
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: it
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: when you leave it idle, you need to play with it,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: so you must tell it it's a bit serious you are.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: You are a toy. You are a toy. Put it back.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: You
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: are not a home to others.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not, yeah. So yeah, I guess that that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: works.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: This question is for everyone. If you could start a
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: truly Singaporean urban legend, what would it be?
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: OK, so I feel like everybody wants to be a
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: content creator now. So in order to get your numbers up.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Or your like views are or your following up, you
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: need to do something. I don't know what thing that is,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot of the things that
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: we have heard, the urban legends, we were scared into
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: believing it, you know. So what if I say like
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: if you don't do this or if you keep doing this,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: suddenly your Instagram account or your TikTok account or your
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: social media account will get banned? Yes, that's the way
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: a child who is like 14 and loves her social
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: media account and you tell her that if you go
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and talk to guys.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Your TikTok will get banned. Can you imagine the impact
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: that it will make on us? I think that that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: is an urban legend. I don't wish to start, but
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I think that is the fear that you can instill
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: in people. I would like to believe that the chicken
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: rice was invented by some spirit, yeah, like maybe like
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the Penanggao wanted to eat chicken, then accidentally.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Kill the chicken and drop it into a bowl of
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: rice and then somebody saw it and like, hey, it's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: so nice then they eat then that's how chicken rice
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: was made. So in in line with the supernatural la,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: so they created chicken rice. Some, some ghosts created chicken rice,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: not Singapore, not Malaysia, not Indonesia. You are ruining our
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: national dish.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Where are we going with?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the rice fall onto the,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the chicken rice sesame,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: yeah, everything like just come in and boom, like you
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: go through, yeah, so the chicken rice chili is actually
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the blood that's, that's literally just happened. It just happened.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I could literally believe everything else. It's just the flavor
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: for the rice. How they get. I don't know. That's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the only one. Maybe the guy is like, looks plain
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and then pour some soy sauce. This looks pretty good.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Granted, but you all know your chicken rice. I know
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: all the ingredients. You put the gin in ginger modes
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: like one is funny and one is scary.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Wait wait, can you, can you use your, your voice, right,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: your scary voice to narrate how aunanggao make chicken rice?
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can get a lozenges commercial.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Penangal a boy mangabi ayamititulaluyambilia.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Chin Chang Iyamrisbo Lalu Ayam Tresebo jatuka attaatupinga nasi
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: then nasi
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Idinamaan.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Nasi, I am.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Alright, damn good damn good. No need translation I think
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I understand it. I think we all got the gist
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: of that one. I don't know how I'm gonna top that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: For me it's, it was an urban legend that was
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: already proved false. I wish that it was true.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: So if I could make this urban legend true, this
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: is the one I wish for. I think you know
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: the one I'm talking about. It's two buildings.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Which look flat from certain angles, and a lot of
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: people say that they resemble swords.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: There is another building
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Near those buildings, that's very elaborate looking.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: The urban legend was the buildings that look like swords,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: the feng shui very bad because sharp edges, so a
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: lot of bad things happening. To counter that feng shui,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: another building was built.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Ah, another building was built that was very elaborate, so
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: it was supposed to be the scabbard for the swords
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: so that it covers the sharp scabbard means what the
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: basically the eve I love the urban legend so much.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Somebody told me it's not real, broke my heart. I
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: want that to be real because cool, right, bloody cool. Exactly.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I love it so much. So if I could get
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: a purely Singaporean urban legend going, right, that one.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I want people to start believing
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: it again.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I can't talk that but for mine, I think it's
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: either a conspiracy theory or it's an urban legend. Uh,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: you know, like all your tunnels KPE, MCE, and so
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: every now and then they will close it down for
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: maintenance work, right? So I had this idea, right, actually
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: that it's not for maintenance work.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: It's for them to pray to the spirits there, you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to not disturb and, and I had this thought when
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I was doing delivery, so I think I had no
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: idea and I was like I was going through MC
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: and then what if they close down this tunnel it's
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: for them to pray, not for like maintenance work. I
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: don't
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: know. Oh, that's good and it's so friendly.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Where's the department.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very strong, very strong. We're gonna start wrapping
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: things up. Let's end this episode with a morbid fact
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of the day. OK, so the Red Room curse, right,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: sounds like something that could have been from the creators
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: of the ring, but it all started from the death
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: The Flash animation called the Red Room. The animation gained
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: authority after an 11 year old girl from Nagasaki, Japan,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: who is a fan of the animation, stabbed her classmate
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: to death at the school.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: So the legend goes that the animation will pop up
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: on the user screen and then you will be all
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: red with the black Japanese kanji characters that initially read,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: do you like? When the user tries to close the
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: pop up, more words appear until the characters read, Do
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you like the red room?
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: That's when the entire screen goes red and then a
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: list of the cursed past victims appear when it's just
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: dark la. So many things happening around the world, right?
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Like every sentence is something new, something scary. Yeah, yeah
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I can imagine you go to the website now? No,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have got the website then. I won't go
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: now for writing this? No.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: This is creative research, ma. That's creative. Look, we were
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: just talking about how far all of us would go
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: for content. Now you see we go all the way.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: How about you?
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Bye guys. That's for me. Yeah, it's online. He's gonna
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: do it. He's got, he's gonna do it. No, no, no, no,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: he's gonna do it live. The red. I feel like,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like if you want a part two, I
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna use this for his 12 to 2
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: midnight content whatever he cannot say here, he's gonna say there.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have an English and Malay version of everything, yeah,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: but have you heard of this kind of curse? No,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of the internet, the, the room 44,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: 1111 or something very good side of internet like fun
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: side normal things what side of the internet you want?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: So this is like secondary school, you know, like your
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: friends say you look at this website.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: The ghost website. Then you go, then you, you will
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: play a video, then you pop out and then scare you.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, la, like I think on MSN Messenger people
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: ask you to click this watch like one fool, right?
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: It's a car, right? Yeah, the one, then I think 411, yeah,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is one of them, but it's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: just that it blew into like a curse kind of thing.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: It's usually start off with a spoof, right? Then after that,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: you know, people, people be like people.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: That's it. People be like, yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: cool. Alright, thank you guys for joining us and thank
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: you all of you for tuning into Tales from Incredible Tales.
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• 43:44
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