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Where There's Room for Scrub with Hayley Kiyoko · Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad

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  Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Beca, Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: and two times People's Choice Award winning podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.
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  Speaker 3: Yes we are.
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  Speaker 2: We have the most special guest today.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, my.
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  Speaker 3: Favorite your favorite person in the world. You can say yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're really practicing maturing and boundaries over here.
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  Speaker 1: So she's a oought to be your favorite person in
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  Speaker 1: the world. Yes, as long as I'm second.
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  Speaker 4: I love her so much. And yeah, you.
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  Speaker 2: Just a little generation there it's her and then you
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  Speaker 2: perfect right there under her.
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  Speaker 3: Perfect.
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  Speaker 2: She is obviously the love of my life. But beyond that,
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  Speaker 2: she is a pop star. She's an actress's a she's
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  Speaker 2: a director, and she's an author. She's an LGBT plus
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  Speaker 2: advocate like she does it all.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, she's here today for one very specific
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  Speaker 1: reason because she has published yet another book, which is
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  Speaker 1: available now for pre order. I know how hard it
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  Speaker 1: is to sell books, and pre order really does matter,
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  Speaker 1: so please pre order it. It's called Where There's Room
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  Speaker 1: for Us by Hailey, Kyoko and Becca.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to do the honors?
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  Speaker 4: Please? Welcome back to the Scrubbing n O R Hailey kiyok.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much. I'm so happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: This is like the base just tecking at me because
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  Speaker 1: this is like the big moment, like this is crunch
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  Speaker 1: time for you. So it is before we even get
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  Speaker 1: into the R interview, Okay, our very serious interview. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I would like everybody to get on their phones and
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  Speaker 1: pre order where there's room for us by Hailey Kyoko,
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  Speaker 1: because we're in that window. Yes, pre orders make such
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  Speaker 1: a difference. Pre orders are everything for ever your times, bestsellers, everything,
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  Speaker 1: So this is like the the very important moment. So
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  Speaker 1: the more we can sell, the better. Exactly, send link
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  Speaker 1: to your friends, thank you to your loved ones.
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  Speaker 3: Everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: You can get it on Barnes and Obama pretty much
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  Speaker 5: anywhere you get a book, or if you do audio
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  Speaker 5: books too, you can do.
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  Speaker 4: That a cinematic experience.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a great stocking stuffer. So there's no better
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  Speaker 1: time to stock up holiday. I already started my holiday shopping,
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  Speaker 1: so these are great stocking stuffers.
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  Speaker 3: These could be a great white elephant gift. These could
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  Speaker 3: be this is the ad I need it. Thank you
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  Speaker 3: so much. You're so welcome. So if anybody. If tis now,
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  Speaker 3: the time is now? If not now, when? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it Taylor Jin can read who our Dear Friend?
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  Speaker 4: I love your dear friend.
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  Speaker 2: This is a book that feels like a glass of
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  Speaker 2: water when you are parched. Thank you for writing it.
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  Speaker 3: That's such a great.
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  Speaker 4: Oh do you open it up to the dedication?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, oh yeah, let's let's let's just start it
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  Speaker 3: with I brought the book. Then we've got hot pink pages.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually so beautiful. I've never book.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you read the dedication? Okay, I see it.
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  Speaker 3: This book is dedicated to Becca.
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  Speaker 4: Oh get that.
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  Speaker 3: Falling in love with you has been the most rewarding
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  Speaker 3: adventure of my life. Thank you for letting me share
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  Speaker 3: a small ember of it. That's beautiful. Thank you so much. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she loves it.
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  Speaker 1: Starting strong, being like having a book dedicated to you
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  Speaker 1: is like, that's so nice.
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  Speaker 3: What better gift to receive?
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  Speaker 4: Romantic? Yeah, she just like popped it in my face
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  Speaker 4: one day and I was like, what.
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to surprise her, but there was enough surprises
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  Speaker 5: and she was going through a lot with surprise, so
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  Speaker 5: I just was like, here, check this out.
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  Speaker 2: Shall we talk about where do we begin the book
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  Speaker 2: the concept of it, your your journey of writing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, dear, what year did this begin?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's been years in the making. And I guess
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  Speaker 5: we could start off with like, I'm a huge Pride
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  Speaker 5: and Prejudice fan and I love period pieces, which is lol,
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  Speaker 5: because Becca is not like a crazy period piece fans
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  Speaker 5: my favorite.
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  Speaker 3: So like, when she's out of town, I'll like binch Watch,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, all the period pieces like Bridgerton. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I love Bridgerton.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love I love anything with a really uncomfortable wardrobe,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But so my dream was
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  Speaker 5: to tell our story like our.
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  Speaker 3: Use our meet cute as like the inspiration.
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  Speaker 5: And as I was putting it together, it was interesting
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  Speaker 5: because I was like, oh my gosh, Like my goal
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  Speaker 5: in life is to create hopeful queer content, and there's
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  Speaker 5: no way for this to end hopeful if it's in
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  Speaker 5: like the actual like reality of the Victorian era. And
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  Speaker 5: so as I was, you know, developing the story, I realized, Oh,
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  Speaker 5: what if I do this like hyperreality kind of hyperrealism
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  Speaker 5: thing where you can be queer, like you can be gay,
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  Speaker 5: you can get married to a man or a woman,
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  Speaker 5: but women are still not equal, and so two gay
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  Speaker 5: men can inherit land and continue the family line, but
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  Speaker 5: two gay women cannot, and so there's still pressure to
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  Speaker 5: have you know, a son or an air to you
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  Speaker 5: know leave.
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  Speaker 3: So it is set in eighteen hundreds, but like a
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  Speaker 3: in like a hyperreality.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like the short burst of the summary is I
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  Speaker 5: think Pride and Prejudice meets Little Women set in a
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  Speaker 5: queer hyperreality where men are where queer people can exist,
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  Speaker 5: but women aren't equal.
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  Speaker 3: Hyper reality is like not reality.
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  Speaker 5: It's like it's excuse, It's like we're there's still carriages
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  Speaker 5: and like the whole thing. But it's like, what if
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  Speaker 5: I just kept asking myself if I was myself who
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  Speaker 5: I am today and I lived in the Victorian era,
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  Speaker 5: how would I exist and how would I thrive? And
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  Speaker 5: how would I move about falling in love and like
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  Speaker 5: having relationships and what would that look like if you
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  Speaker 5: could just be openly a lesbian during that time.
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  Speaker 3: So the two characters in this book is it Freya
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  Speaker 3: is that you? Or is that Becca? That's inspired by Becca?
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: And then Ivy is you?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So Ivy and Freya Ivan. If you're familiar with your
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  Speaker 1: love story Haley and Becca. Right, well, we see it
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  Speaker 1: mirrored in these characters there.
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  Speaker 5: I was thinking about that there, yes, yes, yes, and no,
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  Speaker 5: like I obviously hype of reality. Well, still, our love
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  Speaker 5: story wasn't in the Victorian era, so things have to change.
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  Speaker 5: But basically the story that I think most scrubbers have
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  Speaker 5: heard is like when we met at Chateau Marmont.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right, like trying to set Haley up with your vacancy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the.
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  Speaker 5: First time we met, and and and we got drinks
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  Speaker 5: at chateau and my friend kept sending women over to
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  Speaker 5: the table.
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  Speaker 3: Did you hear about this we were getting do you
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  Speaker 3: know us?
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  Speaker 4: That's a really good part of the story that I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if we've we've probably told it.
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  Speaker 3: We can tell the story.
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  Speaker 5: But basically that specific moment in our life, I basically
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  Speaker 5: made a Victorian era version of that. And that's kind
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  Speaker 5: of like the catapults of their relationships. So let's go
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  Speaker 5: to the reality real So reality real quick is.
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  Speaker 3: Reallysed for reality part. The reality part of.
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  Speaker 5: It is is that obviously, back when I met at
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  Speaker 5: No Vacancy and she was trying to set me up
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  Speaker 5: with her younger sister.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and then the three of you were supposed to
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  Speaker 3: get drinks together.
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  Speaker 5: Like a group of people, and so we were going
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  Speaker 5: to get drinks and she tells the story beout her
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  Speaker 5: but we basically I was.
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  Speaker 3: Panicked and I was like, oh my gosh, she's like
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  Speaker 3: this famous person.
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  Speaker 5: I have to like find this like bougie place to
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  Speaker 5: take her because I don't really like go out to
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  Speaker 5: get drinks. And so I called my friend. She ended
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  Speaker 5: up being at the Chateau Marmm. She's like, i'll, you know,
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  Speaker 5: give you a table. And so we met at chateau
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  Speaker 5: and we spoke. We I mean, we hung out for
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  Speaker 5: like four to six hours. We shut the place down.
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  Speaker 5: But as we were getting our drinks and getting to
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  Speaker 5: know each other, a woman comes up to the table
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  Speaker 5: and she goes, why haven't you called me back? And
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  Speaker 5: I look at her like deer in a headlight, like
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  Speaker 5: what are you talking about. She's like, you've never called
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  Speaker 5: me back, Like I'm really upset with you. And Becca's
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  Speaker 5: staring at me and I'm like, oh my god. And
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  Speaker 5: she walks away and I look at back and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I literally don't know this person, Like I do not
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  Speaker 5: know this person. An hour later or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 5: Another girl comes up and I was like, why do
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  Speaker 5: you call me back? And so my friend who had
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  Speaker 5: set me up for the take the drinks, she was.
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  Speaker 1: Doing it with me.
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  Speaker 3: No, she's trying you look good. Maybe maybe it was
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  Speaker 3: bad firing with Becca because she was like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 3: she's a place.
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  Speaker 4: And so setting her up with my sister, I'll show her.
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  Speaker 4: So it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was a wild moment where these like women kept
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  Speaker 5: coming up to the table. But anyway, so that moment
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  Speaker 5: in our life was I kind of like brought into this.
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  Speaker 3: Book, how Ivy and Freya?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, And I guess getting into the book more
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  Speaker 5: just to set up the scene. So Ivy again hyperreality
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  Speaker 5: in the sense of like America's more progressive than Europe
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  Speaker 5: at this time and England, and so Ivy and her
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  Speaker 5: brother Prescott from America, they moved to England to find
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  Speaker 5: him a wife because the only way to guarantee his
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  Speaker 5: inheritance is to marry a woman in England, because our
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  Speaker 5: father was from England. And so we meet the Talent
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  Speaker 5: sisters and there's a bunch of sisters and a couple
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  Speaker 5: of them are queer, and there's this character named Freya
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  Speaker 5: and is one of the few sisters left to marry,
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  Speaker 5: and so she has a lot of pressure to marry
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  Speaker 5: a man because they need to continue the family line.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's kind of the setup.
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  Speaker 5: And so we go to England to kind of set
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  Speaker 5: him up with one of the town sisters and then
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  Speaker 5: my character ends up falling.
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  Speaker 3: In love with her. How does it end.
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  Speaker 4: You'll have to prove the buyer.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't end, but maybe that season two or book two, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: book the sequel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, So that's kind of the setup of
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  Speaker 3: of the story.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like loosely based off of our meet cute
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  Speaker 5: and then obviously it's been really you know, Beca's been
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  Speaker 5: able to tell our story a lot, and so this
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  Speaker 5: was kind of my way of telling my experience through
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  Speaker 5: the character's eyes of Ivy and navigating you know, meeting
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  Speaker 5: you know, these sisters and Freya and like having my
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  Speaker 5: world turn up side down. And she's like this sapphog
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  Speaker 5: poet in the Victorian era, and so she's like this
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  Speaker 5: known lesbian poet, and so the younger sister like knows
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  Speaker 5: of her. Like, so I was trying to find like
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  Speaker 5: little things to like have little throwbacks. But but Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's really fun.
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  Speaker 3: It's really fun, and it's three hundred pages.
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  Speaker 5: I think the fonts it's hya so the font you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's a quick read why young adults, oh.
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  Speaker 3: Words, So I appreciate, but yeah, it does have to
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  Speaker 3: spoiler alert.
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  Speaker 5: It does have a hopeful ending. And for me growing up,
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  Speaker 5: all of our queer representation ended in like suicide or
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  Speaker 5: death or like in love and like really having to
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  Speaker 5: hide our relationship celebrated exactly. And so I was really
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  Speaker 5: inspired by the concept of, like, Okay, what if you
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  Speaker 5: could be gay, but you're still not equal as women,
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  Speaker 5: and you're still struggling to to thrive in an economy
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  Speaker 5: in a world, and so what does that look like
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  Speaker 5: and how do you find your joy and happiness? When
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  Speaker 5: maybe I also liked the idea of like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think everyone can, whether you're queer or not, anyone
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  Speaker 5: can relate to this love story because I think every
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  Speaker 5: single person is born with parents who have expectations of
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  Speaker 5: who they're going to end up with, right, whether it's
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  Speaker 5: your religion, whether it's your culture, whether it's your background,
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  Speaker 5: and it always it's always gonna be challenging to navigate
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  Speaker 5: regardless of those expectations and the disappointments, and so I
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  Speaker 5: also really loved having just something so relatable in that
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  Speaker 5: sense where you can pick this up and read it
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  Speaker 5: and see yourself in it, and sometimes you know, the
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  Speaker 5: happy ending isn't like everything works out. The happy ending
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  Speaker 5: is like, we're going to figure this out together and
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  Speaker 5: we're going to like persevere through the hardships.
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  Speaker 1: I do think it's super relatable, you know, stepping outside
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  Speaker 1: of the queer community, like I was saying, I also
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  Speaker 1: experienced some of that, Like I never thought in a
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  Speaker 1: million years I would end up.
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  Speaker 3: With a divorced Jewish dad, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's just I think it is going to
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  Speaker 3: be really relatable to a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the whole concept is like, outside of
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  Speaker 2: being queer, there's so many other things that people navigate
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  Speaker 2: to be together and that they have to go through
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  Speaker 2: with family or expectations or whatever that leads to that
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  Speaker 2: decision of are we doing this together or are we
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  Speaker 2: gonna wonder what if for the rest of our lives?
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  Speaker 2: Like take obviously this is focused on queer a queer
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  Speaker 2: love story, but I do think a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: can resonate with like differences of religion and beliefs everything.
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  Speaker 4: You're going on a book tour, I am, I'm not going.
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  Speaker 3: To Ye, it's a big deal. Not everybody gets a
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  Speaker 3: book tour.
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  Speaker 5: This is my first book tour because my last the
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  Speaker 5: last book that came out, Girls Like Girls, I was
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  Speaker 5: already on tour, like for my music tour, and so
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  Speaker 5: I was doing these like meet and greets every night,
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  Speaker 5: and so I didn't really get to do an official
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  Speaker 5: book tour. So this is like my first one, which
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  Speaker 5: I'm really excited. We're going to New York, Chicago, Berkeley,
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  Speaker 5: and then we ended in LA.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we should go to the LA one. You should
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  Speaker 3: definitely if you know, if you're in town, you should
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  Speaker 3: come to the LA. What days the one is it?
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  Speaker 3: The Barnes and Noble the Grove.
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  Speaker 2: November seventh is lah, November six is Berkeley, Wednesday November
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  Speaker 2: fifth is Chicago, and Tuesday November fourth is New York City.
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  Speaker 3: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Ye, So if all of our scrubbers, we know that
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  Speaker 2: y'all be showing up for things, So if y'all are
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  Speaker 2: in the area any.
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  Speaker 4: Of these dates, yeah, I'll be.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think the scrubbers have like a one
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  Speaker 5: up reading this book because they know they know much
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  Speaker 5: about relationship, and so I think like it's going to
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  Speaker 5: have like this Easter egg energy for them. I'm really
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  Speaker 5: excited to hear their thoughts on it, because I'm really
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  Speaker 5: really proud of this book and this has been something
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  Speaker 5: I've been wanting to do for a really long time.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, you should be so proud.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Staring at it, it's like gorgeous, Like it has like
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  Speaker 5: hints of Wicked colors, but like we love Wicked, so
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  Speaker 5: there you go.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't make that until now. There are different shades.
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  Speaker 2: Number two, I mean, movie number two is coming out.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of pink and green.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of pink and green energy right now.
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  Speaker 2: When you write stories, are you already conceptualizing TV or
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  Speaker 2: movie when you're when you're working on the I know
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  Speaker 2: the answer.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we didn't rehearse this by the no no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: This is all I know.
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  Speaker 5: She's gonna ask no, Like I you know, Girls Like
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  Speaker 5: Girls obviously was like a ten year journey into getting
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  Speaker 5: the film green lit, And a lot of the reason
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  Speaker 5: why I got green lit was because I, you know,
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  Speaker 5: made girls and Girls into a ya and then became
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  Speaker 5: a New York Times.
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  Speaker 3: Best seller, and so that helped push So a lot
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  Speaker 3: of these.
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  Speaker 1: Like films and television shows you're seeing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: them are inspired by books, and that seems to be
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  Speaker 1: the best path forward for Hollywood and quotations for IP.
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  Speaker 1: And so when I was developing this story and writing
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  Speaker 1: this story, I one hundred percent was thinking, like.
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  Speaker 3: I would love for this to be a TV show,
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  Speaker 3: or like it'd have to be a.
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  Speaker 5: Really long movie if it was a movie, like I
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  Speaker 5: need like two and a half hours kind of vibe
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  Speaker 5: because they're just so much like Juicy, you know, stories
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  Speaker 5: and plots. But I would love to make it into
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  Speaker 5: a TV show and then maybe like the next season,
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  Speaker 5: you follow another character. Oh there's another really cool place
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  Speaker 5: in the book called the Bridge, which is like the
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  Speaker 5: West Hollywood of.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the Victoria era exactly.
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  Speaker 5: And so once a month, like they all meet at
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  Speaker 5: the Bridge and like everyone just gets to celebrate and
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  Speaker 5: like there's like boats, and it's really like a magical
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  Speaker 5: like the parade.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like just like kind of like a Pride.
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  Speaker 5: Night, but like once a month and everyone comes together,
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  Speaker 5: and so you know, maybe in future seasons I could
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: follow another character, But I just love world building, and
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: I was really excited to challenge myself more because like
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Girls Like Girls was from like my youth, like high school,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: and so it was really fun to get to be
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: inspired by the love that I have today and beyond,
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: and so that was like really cool to kind of
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: challenge myself a bit more, to see, like what would
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: it be like if Ray and Ivy like existed in
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: the Victorian era, and like what would happen?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: What happened to us?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: You mentioned your directorial debut, Girls Like Girls, coming out.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I haven't gotten an official date, but I'm hoping next year,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: twenty six yes, and any day in that year, yes, hopefully.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sooner than later.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: When you wrote Girls Like Girls in twenty fifteen, or
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: you wrote it in twenty fourteen.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Relased the music video on twenty fifteen, and then I said,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: didn't start writing till later, So.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: No, I know, but I'm talking about the music video.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: What the conceptual? Yeah, the Girls Like Girls conception. Yeah,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: you were not in the video.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I was not on purpose. Yes, why.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I wasn't in.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: The Girls Like Girls music video because I it was
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: like my coming out and so it was like my
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: half ass of coming out without putting my face on
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: it because I was nervous and.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So really yes, and so I was too scared. It's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: so hard for me to picture that now, I know
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I was like too scared.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: But then like I had the amazing Stephanie Scott and
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Kelsey Asville and they were the stars of the music video.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: And so it was really cool to be able to
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: direct to the film for Girls Like Girls because I
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: was able to reclaim my space in that. And I
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: think that goes that's connected to not feeling represented in
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: the Victorian era, right, like growing up being like, oh
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: my gosh, I'll never book a role like in the
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: eighteen hundreds or like because of just what I look like.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: And so I think going through this Girl's Like Girls
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: experience was a really beautiful, like full circle moment where again,
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: like you said, it's crazy, I was so scared to
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: put myself in the music video and like have my
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: face in it, and like that was terrifying for me.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: How long was that process for you?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Were you okay? So you you knew that about yourself?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: You said, I knew I was scared since I was
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: like five or six, but this was your half you
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: said half ass. I would say I was attached to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the song in the sense of, like, maybe if I
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: were to do it over again, I would have myself
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in the video. So you were you said five six
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: when you knew yeah, yeah, yeah? And then when how
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: old were you when you like really put your face
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and name and everything out?
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean that was twenty fifteen. Girls like girls,
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I like, I was how old in the music video?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: But it was like my song that I wrote because
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like I remember when you and Becca first
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: started dating. I was so I admired so much how
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: patient you were with Becca throughout that whole process, because
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, Like if I were Haley,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I it would be so hard for me, like with
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: how you guys were doing things in the beginning. But
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, I think you obviously can relate to
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: what Becca was going through because you had your own
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: journey through it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I mean we've had totally different upbringings, but I can
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: relate in the sense of, like, you're ready when you're ready, right,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: you know, And it's really scary to like just know
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: who you are and then also be like what are
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: people going to say? And it's so crazy to look
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: at my career that like that Girls Like Girls in
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: twenty fifteen, me speaking my truth would finally be have
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: a whole career because I was like, this is who
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: I am, and then all of a sudden, I'm finding
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: all these people going, oh my gosh, I feel the
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: same way.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: And that's why Girls Like Girls was so powerful.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: It is because we don't get to see women be
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: together and like win and like thrive in culture and
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: in spaces, and so as soon as I started doing that,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh my gosh, My whole purpose in
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: life is to create hopeful career content to kind of
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: fill you know, when I when I'm like building my
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: decks for like music videos, or even when I was
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: doing the film, when there's this thing called shot Deck
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: and you go on and you like, you know, it's
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: like it's kind of like a pinterest for like cinema, okay,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: like a mood board, and you have such limited amounts
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: of films to choose from to be able to put
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: together a vision for like women loving women's stories. Oh interesting,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: and so like my goal in life is to be
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: able to fill up that void. So when you go
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: on shot Deck, you're like, oh my gosh, do I
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: take this image? Or do I take this image right now?
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: You're just like, so, I mean, you have like so
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: few images to work with because there's so many, there's
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: very little. I mean, it took me ten years to
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: get Girls like Girls made. It's just two girls falling
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: in love and ends in hope, and that took ten years. Yeah,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: and it's never been made before.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: That's wild. Yeah, and it's twenty twenty five.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: And so that was my goal with Where There's Room
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: for Us is like I wanted to be inspired by
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: our love story and then bring it into a even
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: bigger world and find a way to maybe hopefully get
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: this made to be brought on to our screen so
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: people can be like, oh my gosh, I look like her,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Like I can succeed in life, you know, just representation
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: as a whole.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Where did a title come from?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: So?
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Where there's room for us? The great question?
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: I think for me, it's always like creating space and
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: like wanting to have space.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And so I liked the idea of a title of
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: having some thing of like where there's room for us,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: of like, like, even when.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: There's space, how do we fill up that space, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: how do we thrive in that space and how do
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: we take ownership in that space.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: It's really interesting when you said, like, I don't know
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: what you call it in the movie world, but you
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the Pinterest thing and not having a shot deck, not
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: having the amount of images to choose from and stuff
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: like that's so that's just so crazy. I feel like
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: when I was I didn't really use Pinterest, but anytime
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I would type in anything that I needed, it was like.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: It was there, right there, right there. Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: And so imagine like as creators and filmmakers and authors,
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: and it's like you're trying to create something that hasn't
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: existed yet, and then you're trying to it makes it
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: super challenging because you're trying to prove to companies and
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: studios and people with lots of money that your idea
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: is a good idea and it's never been done yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: or there's no proof of concepts. And like that's why
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: writing books has been like such a freeing moment for
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: me because I can just like do what I want
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: and take it wherever I want without anyone else yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: telling me, oh, we can't afford this scene, or we
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: can't afford this or we can't do it here. It's
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: like no, like I can have the place called the
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Bridge with lanterns and boats and you know, like meadows
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: and lavender fields, like I can do it all. And
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: this has been the most freeing medium in my life.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I think, do you have a dream cast for where
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: that could do?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: No?
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: What that would be the day. I don't have a
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: dream past because like it could take like I don't know.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying if it were to get mad, if
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it were to get made in the speedy sense next.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Year, I haven't thought about that. Actually, really, that's like
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: the first thing I thought about.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess I don't. I'm very like, once I
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: have an idea, I have to do it and it
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: has to happen. And so I try to not lock
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: myself into an exact vision because once I do it,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: like if I were to be like it needs to
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: be whatever Margo, Robbie or whatever, if it didn't happen,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: it could never happen.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well she has.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: She had.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: There good answer, just like we rehearsed.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: When we see like we obviously see you on the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: podcast and people get to know you, but I do
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: feel like your social media you have really allowed people
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: to come in and see more of your personality.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm trying.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Has that been challenging because I feel I have this
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: theory that people who are in the industry as like
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: actors or uh, celebrities, that there's this sense of need
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: to be perfect in terms of how they're presented. Did
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: you experience like I know that we've talked about you
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: experiencing that need of like everything needs to like be perfect.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I think, like, well, during the pandemic, I just like
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: I stopped posting a lot, and so it's taken like
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: years to kind of like get back because I used to,
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: like I mean when I was like fifteen, I was
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: like YouTube vlogging being likely and I'm getting on the
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: plane and here I am, And I don't know if
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: it's like getting older too. I also think like we
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: had such a private life for so long, so that
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: just like became like my normal and like my comfort.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: But I am trying to like share more of like
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: my goofy side and me not being able to say
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: eyes yes if you've seen our TikTok. But I think
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: that's what was really fun about writing this book is
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: like kind of navigating, you know, it just have like
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: hints of my my perspective and my experience through this
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: book and like navigating entering a new space and meeting
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: someone that's like so different from me, and and finding
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: a way to just like make sure that we end
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: up together.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, we don't talk about it a lot, but
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: we had to navigate a lot of things in our relationship.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And we've been together, you know, seven and a half years,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: and there's been so crazy, a lot of hardships and
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: navigating like really hard conversations not only with each other
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: but with other people, and Haley, I have to say, like,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: through it all, I don't know anything different, but I
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: realized how fortunate I was to have a partner who
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: was so patient. And also there were a few things
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: where I may have been like I'm out, amout yeah yeah,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, And it really is a testament to how
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: much how much you love me and our relationship and
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: wanted to be with me, and how much I wanted
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to be with you. But I'm glad, like there's you
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: know that you have a way of expressing that because
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of time in our life that
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: was private before we came out publicly that it was hard.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I mean I think when you're well, right back at you, babe,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: because you could have also been like, see, yah, this
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: is too hard. But I think it goes back to like,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: you know, you meet someone and like they might have
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: a totally different upbringing or they might have a totally
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: different religion or culture, and it's like you're navigating, Okay.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: What are my boundaries?
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Like what do I need in a partner, and like
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: can this person be come from a totally different world
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: than my world?
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: And like how do we meet?
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: And also it's kind of like in Us against the
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: World's kind of thing too, where it's like how do
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: you navigate your love and also navigate all the other
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: relationships that have expectations, whether it's family or friends, Like
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: people always have something to say, and so it's just
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: like navigating a new relationship, navigating all of all of
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: these people's like feelings and thoughts on your relationship, and
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: then like reclaiming your relationship and being like this is
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: our relationship and like if you're good, then I'm good,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: and then the rest we'll figure out.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's something so beautiful about being with
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: someone like a partner that is from totally a different background,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: because like I mean, I just I can't imagine being
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: with someone that's exactly or is exactly like me.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Well, it challenges you, It challenges you too, but.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: It's such a beautiful thing to like learn and accept
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and grow and like experience new things. And I don't know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I just think it's like it's a beautiful way to
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: experience life.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I but I think it takes courage, Like
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: and I think we live in a society that encourages familiarity,
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: encourages sameness, right, and just being like, you know, that's
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: what's easy, right, And so it takes a lot of
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: courage to be like, oh I haven't thought of it
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: that way, or oh, like there's another way to live,
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: or oh there's another way to be centered, or there's
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: another way to think about this, and so you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: but that takes strength and not being a narcissist. So
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: self awareness is really key, it is, it is.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But so with narcissism, there's like a lot of
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: narcissists out there, and I think it's like.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Eighty twenty we're in a world of about eighty percent narcist.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, and you guys are not in it, so congratulations.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we work hard at that, not being narcissists. But yeah,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm just so proud of you. I'm
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: proud of us, I'm proud of our love and I'm
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: so I mean, reading your intro of all the things
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: you do is like it's it's so interesting because I'm
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: so familiar with it and I'm in it with you
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and like the creativity and the process of it.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: But when I when I'm reading it from this perspective,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I'm like, whoa, she does a lot. It's so impressive.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: It really is so impressive. Like I'm.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Everything else aside just writing a three hundred page novel
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: is so hard, and I'm so proud of you, and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: it looks beautiful and I do I want to manifest
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: and I hope that you that this can become like.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Your time New York. Yeah, there, Cellar.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But also I could see it becoming like a Netflix binge.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah we a binge, we get another binge? Yeah, like
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: a girly pop binge.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Tanya will be directing it, Yeah, I could be in
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: charge of the soundtrack exactly.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Why so Tanya wrote a song and she wanted to
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: present it to you, but we're going to take a
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: break and we'll be right back, all right. So in
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Monday's episode, Tanya was sharing a song that she has
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: written herself, and she performed a little snippet of it
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: on that podcast and then I thought, wow, you should
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you should sing it, Na Haley, just to get any feedback.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: And the floor is yours stle.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Where those room for us. It feels like there's a
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: sacrifice involved. Both parties have to sacrifice, sacrifice for love.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: It's a thankless job.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: You run off and do what you want, sacrifice for love.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: But should the other one sacrifice too? Should it fades out?
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: That wasn't really beautifl and I loved that you were
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: staring into my eyes the entire time, no blinking necessary.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm on Like that felt intimate. Yeah,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: thank you, Tanya. That was beautiful. You're welcome.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean would you turn your chair around? Yeah?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, I'd be like, what is that song? Yeah? Wow,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: we'll talk, Yeah, we'll talk people maybe yeah, viol violin
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: A violent version of that would be really lovely Victorian era, Yeah,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: that would be absolutely stunning.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: So we did get engaged almost four months ago.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's wild. I know, time flies. Time flies when
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: you're having fun.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And the people are, you know, curious, Well they got
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: some curious. They're so curious about it's serious. What the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: next plans are? Okay, the next steps?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything you'd want to share.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, is there something you want to share?
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I don't have anything to share.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I hope to be proposed to. You are going to
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I'm relaxed now.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, you're just relaxing too.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: No.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, you know, once you put a ring
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: on it, then we'll get the ball, get the ball
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: rolling on plans and stuff. But I've heard from many
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: people to have a long engagement because they said it's
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: like such an amazing like chapter and so you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: I'm enjoying that. No, I'm really enjoying my fiance, I say.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: And if you get to the end of the book,
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: you know, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, whoa, there's some bells ringing?
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not, I don't know. You got to read
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: the book. I'm so looking forward to your wedding. Oh yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I'm excited to bok excited to read book. I'm like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: I'm excited for you to read the book, and I'm
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: excited for the wedding. I'm excited for it all. I'm
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: really excited too. I wanted to so.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Tanya has offered that if I if you need any
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: help planning my birthday next.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Week, she is of service, so that would be great.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I told her that you would reach out if you
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: needed anything because you saw her in action during the.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: It was really harassive. Yeah, I've never seen anything like it.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: You guys are crazy.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she talked about it a lot.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I was really impressed your planning skills. Yeah, so honored.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I feel thoughtful, very thoughtful. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I'll text you after this. Perfect. How many interviews do
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: you have lined up? I have a few, but I
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: wanted to come here first.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: You know what could be at the book tours?
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: Well, depending on the city, there's uh, there's met and
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: greets at every city, I believe, and then there's Q
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: and a's in a couple of the cities.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Uh. So that's what you should expect. Unfortunately, no like
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: concert performance, you know, no acoustic performance a recession.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Sorry, all right, I'm really excited. It's just like so
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: lonely online sometimes and so I'm so excited to see
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: people in person and just like reconnect with my community,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: my people.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Haley's very much needs social interaction.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: But she like if we are just in the house
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: for too long, She's like, I it's time, I need
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: to I just have to.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Do one thing a day. Yeah, if I just do one,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: what's the thing? Like go to Target? Yeah, oh okay, or.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Like go to a grocery store, but not like you
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: don't need to go to like an you don't need
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to go to dinner or like a No, I need
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: to leave the house once a day. Yes, and Becca
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: could be in the house for three plus days with
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: seeing with no oxygen, no fresh air, and then nothing
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: stop outside.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't have to.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I don't have to, but I do.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: It is a really impressive thing, very like bare hibernation energy.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: That's how I recover. But she gives a lot of
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: comfort from socializing. Yeah, like if I socialize, I need
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to recover.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you got on.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: A Friday, you best believe Saturday, Sunday, Monday, she done.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: We went to a party on Friday and we did
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: nothing Saturdays.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: But she had to get up and go do something
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: and that was herding. She's fulfilled that she had an outing.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that I can't sit. I can't watch
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: TV during the daylight. It's called something. It's called like
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: it's no, it's called something. It's called like she can't
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: watch daily. No, it's like something where you can't watch
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: TV during the day because it's no because you feel
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: bad because you should be like seizing the day.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Oh, I have that, but not a TV thing. I
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: just have that as like a baseline. Yeah, like I
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: have to go seize the day or like do something
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: like I cannot if I want. Even there's a show
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: that I love and I have the afternoon, I can
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: watch it at two pm. I will not watch until
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: like six. Really, yeah, it's sick we.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Put our TV in a spot where the glare makes
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: it impossible to watch to start watching it during the day.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really I love a day watch. But again I
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: still have to have my outing.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I was speaking thinking about talking about
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: no acoustic performance because it's a recession. But are you
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: people I get dms all the time about you making
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: more music?
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Are you working on music?
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: I am working on music. I you know, obviously just
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: staring at me. You know, did the Girls Like Girls
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: movie and we're you know, wrapping that up. But uh,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: there's plans to have more music, a new album. We'll see,
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: we'll see.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Stay tuned, do you know or do you just can't
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: tell us? I just can't tell you. That's fair. Yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I tell you a lot of things though, for sure.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I've been I've been in the studio. I've
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: been writing music, so yeah, you know, stay tuned. I
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: have some really good songs that would work really well
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: for this book.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: But like, oh there's a song, an unreleased song.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a song, perfly.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I get to hear everything, but I think I'm gonna
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: wait and keep it for like future, you know what
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Like it's got to be the right timing.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't be released.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: But I do have a collab with Cash Cash coming
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: out October thirty first, called Sadness. I just remembered October
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: this like Halloween, Yeah, like.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Is that next week?
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, October. There.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I do have a song, but I did it like
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: I did it a couple of years ago with these
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: guys Cash Cash it's called Sadness.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: It's really cute, it's really catchy, really catching.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Weirdly found myself singing it and I haven't heard it
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: since she did it, which was like years ago, and
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I found myself singing it and I was like, what
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: is this song that I'm singing?
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: That's good year worm?
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Ye, yes, very sick.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost askey as that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So you'll have a little bit of music
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: next week and then and then not till twenty twenty seven,
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. Oh okay, yeah, okay, so albums you
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: squeezing the information out of me.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just give the people a tease, give the hand.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: It's just it's a lot. It's a lot, you know, Like,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: it's just I'm I need to be everywhere I know
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: once and you want to give, you want to give
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the book, like this is the time for the book.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, this is the book, and the book tie
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: and then and then the movie and then the album.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's doing fourteen things in one year.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Correct. I can barely squeeze in three appointments in a day,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I like one appointment a day personally.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Do y'all have your Halloween coster. You have your Halloween costume? Yes,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: we do, not you do.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Do you know what it is?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I do know?
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Share talk of your hints.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: This book is very giving. The vibe of my really interesting,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: like a Bridger energy address as a book.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Colors, Oh wicked.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Nice. We have to figure out, we have to figure out.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: What we're gonna do, like literally today. I know, why
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: don't you be demon Hunters? I know, I love Yeah,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do it too, but Rob was like,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: oh I love that, but I like being green. So
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out another clean.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Moments only so much you can be.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: You kidding track Guardians of the Galaxy, and you could.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Be I already threw that out there, but she didn't
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: want to be kermit.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of my face being like you
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: have to wear both with that claw, it's like that
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: fuzzy cloth.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: He's like a fuzzy cloth. Yeah, not Linen, What is
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: first all you said green? You didn't say it had
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: to not be.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I like it to look
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: pretty real. I'd have to like build a cardboard face.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, if I have time.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: We'll see yeah, but I did think Shrek was a
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: good idea, but maybe not this year. It's a lot
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: feels very like time intensive. Yeah, I think you could
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: do it. You think you want to do my makeup
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: for it. I don't think you want me to do
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: your makeup for it. Let's just start there.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: TVD, TVD. We got five day.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty stressed.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're pretty stressed. It's fine.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's fine. It'll be great either way.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: And then we have our birthday, which is so fun,
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: so fun would be the best. Soak up thirty seven girl.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, back spasms are on the way.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: One year starts to go south.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got one year of pain free life.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Can I talk about the audio book?
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Please.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: So the audiobook is phenomenal.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: I wasn't going to read it, but I ended up
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: reading the Ivy chapters because I can't do a British accent.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: And then we got the amazing Jemima.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Kirk to read Freya's chapters, and so it's myself and
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: Jemima Kirk and then there's like amazing music in the
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: audiobook and it literally feels like cinema.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I'm like so proud of it.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: I love an audiobook book personally. I enjoy reading. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I enjoy them both. Yeah.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: Well, and it gives for the If you're an audiobook person,
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: definitely listen to it because I'm.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Amazed, super super proud of it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Where can everybody buy every it? You literally can get it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Anywhere you get books and anywhere you get audiobooks, so
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: you know, you're any bookstores to Barnes and Noble, to
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Amazon to Audible, like you can literally just type it
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: in and you'll find it. I also have a link
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: in my bio on Instagram.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And where can people follow you already? Just my name
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: hey like Kyoko on all platforms yeah, or you can
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: find me through Becca's Instagram too.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Thank you guys for having me.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: I'm so excited and proud of this book, and I'm
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: really excited for people to get to to see it
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: through the eyes of Ivy and Freya. So thank you
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: so much for supporting us and me and enjoy where
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: there's room for us.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Grubbers wait to read it.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: We know how scrubbers show up, So go buy your
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: copy in any form. It's so beautiful, it's like a
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: relic is that what you call it? A relic?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Oh wait yeah. And two you can take the top off,
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: So I did that with girls and girls tooo. So
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: that's like it's like a chic like a coffee table book.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: So pretty art art.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: She thinks of everything.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, es, love you guys, We love you.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: B