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Update: Brown University Shooting | Day Laborers · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 1: six forty.
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Speaker 2: Bill Handle here Friday morning, December nineteenth. Next week it
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Speaker 2: is Christmas today, day five.
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Speaker 1: Of Hanukkah, and.
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Speaker 2: Now right through New Year, we're gonna have a really
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Speaker 2: modified schedule of personalities here on KFI. Okay, a big
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Speaker 2: story it broke yesterday, I mean huge, and that is
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Speaker 2: the shooting at Brown and the MIT professor who was
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Speaker 2: killed in Boston up here almost certainly to be connected.
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Speaker 2: Same guy did the shooting. And he is forty eight
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Speaker 2: year old Claudio Monuel Nevis Valente or Valente, and he
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Speaker 2: came the n ice eighth in two thousand from Portugal,
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Speaker 2: came in on a student visa. He later got his
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Speaker 2: green card in twenty seventeen because there was a program
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Speaker 2: and that is diverse immigrant visa program, which I don't
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Speaker 2: know if it exists anymore, I'd be shocked. And so
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Speaker 2: he was here perfectly legally and had no criminal record.
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Speaker 2: So he ended up shooting the professor in Brown University.
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Speaker 2: And the way they put this together it was good policing. However,
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Speaker 2: they didn't have a clue. The authorities had no clue
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Speaker 2: as to who it was except these videos where a
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Speaker 2: face couldn't be seen, and they were talking about recognizing
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Speaker 2: him because of his date and he's a heavy set guy.
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Speaker 2: They use stocky describing it. I don't know why they
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Speaker 2: never say he's fat, he was fat, and how.
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Speaker 1: Did they end up catching him?
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Speaker 2: Well, you hear constantly we need the public to give
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Speaker 2: any information because a huge I would say the majority
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Speaker 2: of cases that are solved like this, where the authorities
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Speaker 2: have no clue initially are solved because of tips that
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Speaker 2: are given to police.
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Speaker 1: And that's what happened here.
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Speaker 2: Now, whenever the public is asked for help, especially if
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Speaker 2: there's a reward that's to be issued or a.
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Speaker 1: Reward is available, the tips.
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Speaker 2: Come in like crazy, and one of the things the
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Speaker 2: police have to do is discern which ones are legitimate
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Speaker 2: which ones aren't. And the crazy ones are fairly easy,
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Speaker 2: but the ones that seem to have some legs or not.
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Speaker 2: And this is clearly what ended up happening. It looks
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Speaker 2: like he was acting alone, never had a problem before.
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Speaker 2: They don't know what the motive was for the killings.
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Speaker 2: On Saturday, he comes into a lecture hall at Brown
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Speaker 2: during an economic study session. Kills two wounds nine and
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Speaker 2: then two days later he shot and killed MIT professor
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Speaker 2: Nunio Larua I think, also from Portugal and Larua Lorero,
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Speaker 2: forty seven years old. Professor of nuclear science and engineering
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Speaker 2: and a physics was found shot at his home. I understand,
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Speaker 2: right there at his door, answering the doors, about forty
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Speaker 2: five miles north of Brown.
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Speaker 1: Now they think that.
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Speaker 2: The two knew each other because they were at the
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Speaker 2: same academic program between nineteen ninety five and two thousand
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Speaker 2: at the university in Portugal. And then they don't know
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Speaker 2: what happened, what altercation happened that they don't The authorities
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Speaker 2: aren't saying did the two men communicate recently, except to
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Speaker 2: say that professor was specifically targeted, but no ties to
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Speaker 2: the victims at Brown. Now, this was the end of
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Speaker 2: a five day search. Early on stumped investigators until the
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Speaker 2: tip came in where they could track him down. Federal, state,
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Speaker 2: local enforcement spent a week scouring the region, and the
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Speaker 2: whole region everybody locked their doors, and it's the whole neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: The whole area becomes paranoid.
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Speaker 2: Do you remember the freeway killer that.
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Speaker 1: That did all the killing?
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Speaker 2: I think, up and down the coast, and what was
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Speaker 2: the one in Los Angeles where the whole area just
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Speaker 2: was going crazy. Now the officials are saying that there
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Speaker 2: was this witness, actually a homeless guy I understand described
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Speaker 2: the encounter with Valente.
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Speaker 1: He blew the case right right open.
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Speaker 2: A police official said he identified this by the way,
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Speaker 2: he's only identified as John. This witness and John first
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Speaker 2: noticed Valente on the Brown campus two hours before the shooting.
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Speaker 2: They were in a bathroom together. John described Valente as suspicious.
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Speaker 2: His clothes seem quote flimsy. I don't know what that means,
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Speaker 2: inappropriate for the cold weather.
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Speaker 1: I know what that means.
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Speaker 2: And so John follows him from the building, sees him
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Speaker 2: approaches gray Nissan CenTra that's where we got the information
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Speaker 2: about Etcentra Flora plates, and then walk away from the
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Speaker 2: car when you noticed he was being watched. And John
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Speaker 2: would later tell the cops that he followed Valente, who
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Speaker 2: appeared to be lingering on the blocks attempting to return
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Speaker 2: to the car, and the two confronted each other. John
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Speaker 2: confronted him and Valente says, I don't know you from nobody.
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Speaker 2: Why are you harassing me? John posts the encounter on
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Speaker 2: Reddit and then the police had the beginning of the investigation,
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Speaker 2: and the car was rented and they put all the
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Speaker 2: pieces together, and at some point they were able to
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Speaker 2: know that Valente showed up at a storage facility, tracking
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Speaker 2: him down there, the cops show up, the SWAT team
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Speaker 2: comes up, the helicopters overhead, and they breach the storage
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Speaker 2: facility and there he is with his brains blown out.
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that self inflicted gunshot wound is always in
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Speaker 2: the head for.
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Speaker 1: The most part.
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Speaker 2: And now the issue is there's a huge legal issue.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's really serious. Who's going to clean up
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Speaker 2: the brains on the inside of that storage facility? I wouldn't,
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Speaker 2: but good news they caught the guy. The shame of
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Speaker 2: this is there's two aspects of this. One he should
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Speaker 2: have killed himself before shooting up at Brown and killing
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Speaker 2: the professor. And two, he has saved the taxpayer a
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Speaker 2: ton of money.
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Speaker 1: He probably doesn't have any money.
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Speaker 2: This is a capital case except Massachusetts doesn't have the
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Speaker 2: death penalty, and it would cost a fortune to defend him.
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Speaker 2: And based on what we hear and see, and assuming
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Speaker 2: that all of this pans out, it's gonna cost a
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Speaker 2: lot of money. And he's gonna spend the rest of it.
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Speaker 2: He would spend the rest of his life in jail. Okay,
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Speaker 2: all right. Every year, right around this time I talk
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Speaker 2: about the new laws they kick in in California, because
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Speaker 2: when a law has passed, usually it kicks in the
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Speaker 2: first of the following year, unless it's one of those
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Speaker 2: that take three or four years to actually accomplish what
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Speaker 2: the law says. So at the beginning of the year,
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Speaker 2: I generally talk about the stupid, insane, moronic laws that
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Speaker 2: are state legislators who we pay a lot of money
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Speaker 2: to legislate that what they vote in. However, what I
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Speaker 2: want to do this time around is take a moment
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Speaker 2: or two and talk.
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Speaker 1: About laws that actually do make sense.
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Speaker 2: You may not agree with these laws, but they do
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Speaker 2: make sense, and I think most people know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: One of them is banning cat declining. I thought that
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Speaker 2: was already a law, and it clears not to be.
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Speaker 2: But starting January one, cat owners will be prohibited from
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Speaker 2: having cats declawed.
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Speaker 1: And why is that? Because if you look.
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Speaker 2: At what they do to the cats to declaw them,
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Speaker 2: amputate the first bone in each of the cat's toes,
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Speaker 2: maybe severing tendons, to prevent claw extension.
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Speaker 1: Now, for those of.
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Speaker 2: You that have cats who ruin the furniture because they
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Speaker 2: scratch at furniture, that's what cats do.
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Speaker 1: Get a dog.
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Speaker 2: Just get a dog and have a dog pee on
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Speaker 2: the leg of the furniture. You know, that's easier to
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Speaker 2: clean than redoing the legs. And if it's a furnire
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Speaker 2: that is upholstered, get a dog now, or get some
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Speaker 2: kind of a pet. Get a parakeet, although you let
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Speaker 2: them out of the room or out of their cage
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Speaker 2: and they crap all over your furniture. So do whatever
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Speaker 2: you want. Declawing is permitted only when medically necessary. All right,
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Speaker 2: landlords are going to be required to provide working stoves
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Speaker 2: and refrigerators and apartments starting January first. Now they have
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Speaker 2: to provide water heaters for example.
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Speaker 1: That's law.
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Speaker 2: And I've never seen a rental that didn't have a
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Speaker 2: stove in it, but I didn't know that that was
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Speaker 2: not necessary.
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Speaker 1: And refrigerators.
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Speaker 2: People bring in their own refrigerators all day long, and
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Speaker 2: it's a problem. You bring in your own fridge and
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Speaker 2: you rent, and then you rent a place after that
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Speaker 2: that has a fridge, and what the hell do you
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Speaker 2: do so. Anybody who is renting now working stoves and
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Speaker 2: refrigerators in apartments starting January first, that makes a lot
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Speaker 2: of sense, all for that starting July first of next year,
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Speaker 2: giving these organizations, these businesses, or California's public schools in
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Speaker 2: this case, have at least must have at least one
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Speaker 2: gender neutral restroom. Now I guess at this point they
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Speaker 2: have men and women or boys and girls, and gender
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Speaker 2: neutral is something that is difficult for a lot of
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Speaker 2: people who are trans, for example. And this bill originally
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Speaker 2: passed in twenty twenty three, but delayed after President Trump
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Speaker 2: signed multiple executive orders impacting trans people. Do you know
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Speaker 2: what I found out about trans people? And I did
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Speaker 2: not know this, and that is it is a thing
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Speaker 2: for trans people who are moving from male to female
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Speaker 2: to have surgery and just taking off the nards and
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Speaker 2: leaving the penis intact and connected to their body. I
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Speaker 2: had no idea that that was a thing, just removing
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Speaker 2: the gonads.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it was a financial thing where
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Speaker 1: you can do it at a vet.
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Speaker 2: I have no idea plastic bag ban, Okay, starting next year,
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Speaker 2: there are no plastic shopping bags. They don't exist. Now,
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Speaker 2: the band took place in twenty fourteen. But then there
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Speaker 2: was that loophole that the stores could sell these really
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Speaker 2: thick plastic bags that were supposed to be recyclable.
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Speaker 1: They're not. They cannot be recyclable.
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Speaker 2: So the legislature said, okay, if we want bags that
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Speaker 2: are recyclable, you bring your own or its paper bags,
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Speaker 2: which I'm going I went to the store the other day.
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Speaker 2: It's only plastic bag. It's only paper bags. Trader Joe's
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Speaker 2: early on only paper bags. So that's going to be
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Speaker 2: happened by law. Next here, and food delivery platforms Uber
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Speaker 2: door Dash must give you a full refund if an
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Speaker 2: order is not delivered or if the wrong order is delivered.
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Speaker 2: Did you know that they didn't have to give you
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Speaker 2: a refund the wrong order is delivered.
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Speaker 1: Now I order Dominos.
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Speaker 2: I just happen to like their pan pizza a lot
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Speaker 2: and they send the wrong order, They'll just send a
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Speaker 2: new pizza. If they're late and you go, hey, these guys,
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Speaker 2: you were half an hour late, They'll just send you
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Speaker 2: a new pizza. And so now it's the food delivery platforms.
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Speaker 2: And here's something that we really dive into here, and
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Speaker 2: that is the volume for ads on streaming services. Streaming
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Speaker 2: services will not be allowed to play ads louder than
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Speaker 2: the show that's being watched. Now, that's already regulations in
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Speaker 2: the television broadcast. I don't think radio has that limitation
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Speaker 2: because one of the things that commercials that run on
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Speaker 2: KFI and I hear these, they run commercials hot, which
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Speaker 2: means in many cases they are substantially louder.
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Speaker 1: And you go, come on, guys, and it's a thing.
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Speaker 1: It's a thing.
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Speaker 2: And then parking tickets if you can't afford it, if
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Speaker 2: you're unable to pay you, if you're homeless or have
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Speaker 2: financial hardship, you can request a payment plan. And that
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Speaker 2: didn't happen except judges Intervisual individually did that. And then
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Speaker 2: really controversial police and ICE mask ban. Most law enforcement officers,
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Speaker 2: including the FEDS, are prohibited from wearing face coverings while
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Speaker 2: conducting official business.
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Speaker 1: That's state law.
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Speaker 2: And that's of course in direct response to ICE agents
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Speaker 2: coming out with masks. Is that going to go any place?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. These are federal police, and the FEDS completely
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Speaker 2: supersede any state law. So that is I think a
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Speaker 2: pyrrhic victory doesn't mean much. Okay, did you ever see
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Speaker 2: the movie Scanners. It's an old sci fi movie, that is,
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Speaker 2: it's a fifties maybe sixties, and it's really bad. Well,
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Speaker 2: in the movie there is the protagonist sends out this
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Speaker 2: very high pitch tone and whoever hears it, their head
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Speaker 2: explodes and brains go flying all over.
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Speaker 1: The place brain material.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly what's happening at a home depot in
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Speaker 2: Cyprus park. They should be filming the Scanners two there
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Speaker 2: because since late November home depot installed three machines in
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Speaker 2: the parking lot that emit this very high pitched tone,
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Speaker 2: and the noise, typically kept on all day, is a
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Speaker 2: piercing sound that penetrates your very bones. And that's according
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Speaker 2: to Jose, that's all the name we have because he
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Speaker 2: a day labor illegal, probably and he is afraid to
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Speaker 2: give a last name because what do you think, fear
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Speaker 2: of ice picking him up. So there's an organization I
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Speaker 2: didn't know it existed, the Instituto de Educacionapolade del Sor
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Speaker 2: di California IDEPSKA. It's a nonprofit that supports day labors.
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Speaker 2: Day labors being those usually Hispanics. Matter of fact, I've
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Speaker 2: never seen someone who is not Hispanic who is a
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Speaker 2: day labor and they used to sit at driveways at
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Speaker 2: Home Depot, at Low's, at major hardware stores because people
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Speaker 2: needed day labors be picked up. And I must say
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Speaker 2: that there's been a time when I hired day labors
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Speaker 2: for day labor, because if you need someone for four
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Speaker 2: hours or six hours, you're doing some landscaping, you're tearing
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Speaker 2: down a fence, and you're buying the material. At a
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Speaker 2: major hardware store read Home Depot, Lows or any other
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Speaker 2: major or even minor stores, they're there in the driveway
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Speaker 2: and hoping to be picked up and give it a job,
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Speaker 2: taken advantage of in many cases. And I've also used
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Speaker 2: them when I needed day laborer. I mean, I'll it
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Speaker 2: reminds me of the Simon and Garfunkels song The Boxer,
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Speaker 2: and one of the lyrics is there are times I
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Speaker 2: was so lonesome I took some comfort there. Great lyric well,
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Speaker 2: there were times that I was so lonesome for labor.
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Speaker 2: I took some comfort there. And for the most part
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Speaker 2: they are I'm guessing now Illy Well Ice will tell
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Speaker 2: you that's for sure. So anyway, the Instituto held a
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Speaker 2: press conference at Home depot Wednesday, the very one and
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Speaker 2: calling for the company to remove those machines. There's three
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Speaker 2: of them, and of course oppose the ice raids taking
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Speaker 2: place in its parking lots. And this is part of
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Speaker 2: a growing number of protests that are targeting corporate cooperation
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Speaker 2: with immigrant enforcement. Now, home depots locations across the country
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Speaker 2: have been a prime target for ice raids, and we
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Speaker 2: know why because that's where you find a group of
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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants, undocumented and they hang out. They are hoping
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Speaker 2: for work because they can't apply for regular jobs. I
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Speaker 2: mean they can, but the employer has to pay them
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Speaker 2: under the table or they have to come up with false,
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Speaker 2: false social security numbers, and it takes some level of
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Speaker 2: sophistication do that, and these folks don't have that level
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Speaker 2: of sophistication or are unable to meet those requirements. So
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Speaker 2: they hang out in driveways or next to the driveway.
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Speaker 2: As you leave a home depot, and so what home
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Speaker 2: depot is doing in Cyprus park is filming scanners, high
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Speaker 2: pitched noise penetrates and your brain explodes.
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Speaker 1: Well maybe not that.
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Speaker 2: Home depots have been the target of ice raids all
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Speaker 2: over the country because of obvious reasons. So what they
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Speaker 2: did in order to number one, not have the ice raids,
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Speaker 2: they sort of ice raids tend to disrupt business in
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Speaker 2: those parking lots. And at the same time, they just well,
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Speaker 2: a lot of people are uncomfortable and do and feel
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Speaker 2: very strongly about illegal migrants that are there waiting for work,
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Speaker 2: their day labors or waiting for work. So about fifty
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Speaker 2: people have already been detained at this location this year.
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Speaker 2: So they put up these machines so day labors would
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Speaker 2: not hang around. And a lot of places, a lot
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Speaker 2: of these stores where you had the migrants, the illegal
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Speaker 2: aliens and who you assume that you don't really know
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Speaker 2: that ice will tell you after the fact, but they
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Speaker 2: used to be in the driveway, literally in the driveway,
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Speaker 2: almost blocking people. A lot of these stores set up
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Speaker 2: a center, set up a part of the parking lot
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Speaker 2: that segregated where day labors hang out. And that makes
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Speaker 2: a lot of sense because if someone wants a day
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Speaker 2: labor just goes over to that place and is not
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Speaker 2: inundated with folks. If you ever been to a home
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Speaker 2: depot or any of these stores that sell you know, lumber, concrete,
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Speaker 2: et cetera, I don't know if you've ever been accosted.
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Speaker 2: I certainly have, and so a spokesman for Home Depot said,
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Speaker 2: we've used several initiatives to keep our stores safe, including
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Speaker 2: human and technology resources, which of course that includes these
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Speaker 2: machine machines. I guess the Home Depot is really careful
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Speaker 2: to say. The company does not coordinate with ICE or
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Speaker 2: BARD to patrol. We're not involved in the operations. We
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Speaker 2: aren't notified about enforcement activities or when they're going to happen,
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Speaker 2: and we have nothing to do with them. And what
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Speaker 2: this IDEPSKA organization is, which is basically a day labor organization,
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Speaker 2: hands out ear plugs.
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Speaker 1: That's what they're doing.
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Speaker 2: They're handing out ear plugs to help, and it helps
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Speaker 2: a little bit, but not enough. Councilwoman Eunice Is Hernandez,
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Speaker 2: who represents the city's first district, says, the devices like
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Speaker 2: this are used to torture against our people. I don't
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Speaker 2: know them to torture. I mean, I think that's the point.
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Speaker 2: I think it's just too people stay away and Home
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Speaker 2: Depot well, they rely on the community, including customers who
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Speaker 2: shop inside and day labors who want work and they're
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Speaker 2: outside the storefront and the argument in favor of these
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Speaker 2: organizations who represent day labors, and I don't know what
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Speaker 2: the organization really wants. It gets to allow day labors
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Speaker 2: to hang out there and you know, you bring your
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Speaker 2: pickup truck and they're waving and you literally just grab someone.
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Speaker 2: It's a tough way to get these labors who it's
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Speaker 2: horrible for them. I mean, they've come to the United
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Speaker 2: States to feed their families who are basically not eating.
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Speaker 2: They come here with no marketable skills, with no education whatsoever,
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Speaker 2: and all they can produce is labor. And we're talking
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Speaker 2: about labor, manual labor, and they're being picked up because
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Speaker 2: they are illegal. When they work, they're making three times
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Speaker 2: ten times as much money as they can from Mexico,
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Speaker 2: and that's usually where they're coming from.
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Speaker 1: And your heart breaks for them.
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Speaker 2: And this noise, this high pitched noise, according to and
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Speaker 2: virtually everybody, is just another layer of stress today labors
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Speaker 2: who are struggling to get work. And a couple times,
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Speaker 2: I must admit, it's been a lot of years, a
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Speaker 2: couple of times I have gone and picked up some
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Speaker 2: day labors when I needed landscaping done where my landscaper
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Speaker 2: was going to charge me just a ton of money,
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Speaker 2: for example, to weed the hill behind my house, for
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Speaker 2: installing an irrigation system, and the landscaper gives me a price.
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Speaker 2: But that includes hiring people and paying Social Security and
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Speaker 2: having insurance, and it's a ton of money, more than
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Speaker 2: just going down to the home depot with a pickup
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Speaker 2: truck and they jump in and you hire them for
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Speaker 2: four hours, eight hours, and you pay cash and it's
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Speaker 2: a lot less money. And then some people don't even
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Speaker 2: pay a living wage, and I usually paid far more
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Speaker 2: than minimum wage because I'm one of these people that have.
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Speaker 1: And this is the liberal in me.
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Speaker 2: So don't take this too seriously, where I do believe
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Speaker 2: if you're working, you should be able to eat and
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Speaker 2: no matter what in this country. All right, coming up, ooh,
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Speaker 2: this is a fun one. And this is about what
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Speaker 2: are we doing at eight o'clock? Let me see. Oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we're doing the Jesus story, right, ann I think we are.
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Speaker 1: Nope, we're not doing the Jesus story. What story are
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Speaker 1: we doing? Are? Okay? Good?
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Speaker 2: Because I've sort of mixed them up today. All right,
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