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- 0:00I forgot what time I started. I don't know how long that went for.
- 0:02But, okay, so short sermon because we want to talk about a potential change that we're going to work on.
- 0:10! So if you can for me, just settle in for a moment while we do this.
- 0:14This change is, after much prayer and consideration, something that we're going to try.
- 0:21The elders have determined that we need to try to change how we gather as a church.
- 0:27Because Advent season is quickly approaching, always changes the pace of our meeting anyway.
- 0:34We think that trying this change out will go well during that time.
- 0:39So during Advent, maybe the Sunday following Christmas, it's that one right before the new year.
- 0:45So four or five weeks of trying a bit of a different format, right?
- 0:51During that time, we want to assess those changes, maybe make some tweaks to it.
- 0:55And, really importantly, we want to receive feedback from you.
- 0:59Like, how does it go for you?
- 1:02Like, what is the good of it? What do you not like about it?
- 1:05We really would like to hear your thoughts.
- 1:10Advent will begin on December 1st. That's the Sunday after Thanksgiving.
- 1:14So we have three weeks to communicate this change.
- 1:17We want everybody to be aware of what's going to happen beginning on December 1st for a period of time and maybe beyond.
- 1:24We'll see.
- 1:26So today, I just want to spend some time kind of setting up the reason for it and then giving you a brief version of the idea.
- 1:33And then in the coming weeks, we'll get more detailed information out to you.
- 1:36So your brain starts to freak out and you're like, but what about this thing?
- 1:39And I love it when we do this.
- 1:40It's just, I don't wish, wait, okay?
- 1:42We're going to answer those kinds of questions.
- 1:44We really want to, but the undergirding reason needs to be understood, I think, before we get to that spot.
- 1:50So I'm going to hold out.
- 1:51Like, I'm totally being a tease.
- 1:53I'm not going to tell you what we're going to change until I give you all the reasons.
- 1:55So lock in.
- 1:57Pay attention to what's going on right now.
- 2:00So most of the change, I would say the driving reason for making the change arises from our understanding of the fourth commandment.
- 2:09So Exodus chapter 20, verse 8, remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
- 2:17We would be as a church, those who would suggest that this commandment should still be kept.
- 2:22It's not to be disregarded.
- 2:24We spent some time a while back asking that.
- 2:26I think we spent two whole Sundays saying, should we keep the fourth commandment?
- 2:29The answer was yes, but how?
- 2:31What are we supposed to do in keeping that?
- 2:33And I can't quite work all of that out for you this morning, but I want to say a few things about that as I'm setting this up.
- 2:41We find in the New Testament the moving of this day of rest, this Sabbath day, this ceasing day.
- 2:51Early Christians set themselves apart from Judaism.
- 2:54They met on the first day of the week in celebration of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
- 2:59Which occurred on a Sunday.
- 3:02Acts 20 and verse 7.
- 3:04On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart the next day.
- 3:10And he prolonged his speech until midnight.
- 3:13And then poor Eutychus falls out of the window.
- 3:14Right?
- 3:15Acts 20, verse 7.
- 3:15First day of the week.
- 3:18And again, this day came to be known as the Lord's Day.
- 3:21Revelation chapter 1 and verse 10.
- 3:23John says, I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day.
- 3:27There is evidence that this was the prominent practice of the early church.
- 3:33Ignatius, who was a first century bishop, said Christians no longer observing the Sabbath, but fashioning their lives after the Lord's Day, on which our life also arose in him, that we may be found disciples of Jesus Christ.
- 3:47And Tertullian, who was a second century theologian, wrote that for Christians, Sunday is a day of joy.
- 3:55And that pagans would not celebrate anything on Sunday for fear they might be mistaken for Christians.
- 4:01People would think, you're happy on a Sunday?
- 4:04You must be a Christian.
- 4:06So, this is a day meant for remembering.
- 4:12Exodus chapter 20, verse 8.
- 4:13Remember the Sabbath.
- 4:16The Westminster Larger Catechism in question 121 says,
- 4:19Why is the word remember set in the beginning of the fourth commandment?
- 4:24Two things.
- 4:24Number one, partly because of the great benefit of remembering it.
- 4:28And secondly, partly because we are very ready to forget it.
- 4:33We are such slow learners, and we are so very quick to forget.
- 4:39Anybody feel like their week is a fray?
- 4:42It just moves at an incredible rate.
- 4:44There's so much going on.
- 4:46The information is flying.
- 4:47The tasks are overwhelming.
- 4:51I do.
- 4:52I'm a slow learner, and I'm very quick to forget.
- 4:55We are to remember to keep the fourth commandment.
- 4:58To remember.
- 4:59This is a day set apart for the worship of God.
- 5:03To be gathered together with the church.
- 5:04To learn and to be reminded that we have rest in Christ.
- 5:10The wicked have no rest.
- 5:12They cannot rest.
- 5:13Isaiah 57 20 says,
- 5:15But the wicked are like the tossing sea, for it cannot be quiet.
- 5:18And its waters toss up mire and dirt.
- 5:23You ever feel like the tossing sea?
- 5:25It cannot be quiet.
- 5:26It just tosses stuff up all the time.
- 5:29Beloved, this is not us.
- 5:31This is not us.
- 5:34Jesus says in Matthew 11, 28,
- 5:36Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden,
- 5:39and I will give you rest.
- 5:44God modeled this for us in Genesis.
- 5:47Genesis.
- 5:48It's spoken of in Exodus chapter 20, verse 11.
- 5:51For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them,
- 5:55and rested on the seventh day.
- 5:57Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath and made it holy.
- 6:03In the creation order, God makes these things.
- 6:06And in Genesis 1, verse 4, it says,
- 6:08And God saw that it was good.
- 6:10And verse 10, and God saw that it was good.
- 6:12And verse 12, and 18, and 20, and 25,
- 6:14and God saw that it was good.
- 6:16And then in Genesis chapter 3, things are not so good anymore.
- 6:22In John chapter 5, in verse 17, Jesus says,
- 6:25My Father is working until now, and I am working.
- 6:30God has worked and is now working so that we can rest.
- 6:34Martin Luther once said,
- 6:38The spiritual rest, which God particularly intends in this commandment, is this.
- 6:44That we not only cease from our labor and trade,
- 6:47but much more, that we let God alone work in us,
- 6:50and that we do nothing of our own with all our powers.
- 6:56We need to be reminded that God has finished a task on our behalf.
- 7:02We do not have to work to gain His acceptance.
- 7:06And He has promised to provide for us all that we need.
- 7:10What a wonderful thing that He has ordered for us,
- 7:13that we would rest, that we would stop from time to time the chaos of our lives.
- 7:21John Calvin is helpful in the answer to the question,
- 7:24Why do we keep the fourth commandment?
- 7:26He has said that we observe the Lord's day for three reasons.
- 7:29Number one, to depict spiritual rest.
- 7:32We have spiritual rest, and we're to show that.
- 7:37Number two, to preserve ecclesiastical order,
- 7:41that the church would have a day that it gathers together,
- 7:45that we can know, at least with fair certainty,
- 7:48and barring some emergency,
- 7:50that God's people will be together in a particular place at that time.
- 7:55I think that technology has made us lax in this.
- 8:00And three, to provide relief from our labor.
- 8:05We need physical rest.
- 8:08I know that I need to be reminded of my humanity.
- 8:11I am a human man, an eternal soul,
- 8:14but I have flesh, and it is frail,
- 8:17and it is failing me at a rapider and more rapid rate.
- 8:20It is happening ever more.
- 8:23We need to be reminded that we need physical rest.
- 8:30For many, Sundays are not restful days.
- 8:34Some of you might go,
- 8:35Yeah, we're doing that.
- 8:37A lot of people in the room don't feel that way on a Sunday.
- 8:40It's another day.
- 8:41We do different things on that day,
- 8:43but it's another day that a lot goes on.
- 8:46There's particular people, I think, in our fellowship
- 8:48that don't tend to feel the day as restful.
- 8:52Just a bunch of servants.
- 8:52We have a bunch of people who show up early and get stuff done.
- 8:55These musicians get here really early,
- 8:57way earlier than most of you got here,
- 8:59hours in advance,
- 9:00because they're all volunteers,
- 9:02and they don't have time during the week.
- 9:04We don't have full-time musician staff,
- 9:06and they get to just hang out and play guitars together.
- 9:09It's not what they do.
- 9:10They work jobs.
- 9:12They go to school.
- 9:14So they show up early on Sunday morning to help,
- 9:17because they love you,
- 9:18and they want to worship God through music,
- 9:19and use their talents to serve you.
- 9:21But they get here really early.
- 9:24And I watch them try to practice all those songs in a limited amount of time,
- 9:27and not all the time,
- 9:28but often they seem stressed.
- 9:31They don't seem like they're really enjoying trying to pull that off.
- 9:36The second group,
- 9:39families.
- 9:41Especially families with young children, right?
- 9:45We know that's happening, right?
- 9:46Everybody heard that going on in the room?
- 9:49This kind of snuck up on us,
- 9:51because when we first started meeting as a church,
- 9:54and having children join us in our time,
- 9:56there were very few children.
- 9:58It really was a different culture in the room at that time.
- 10:03Sam and I have been reflecting on training our boys,
- 10:06and teaching them to be able to do this,
- 10:08and we were able to do it.
- 10:11But we scheduled their naps.
- 10:14When they were little,
- 10:15they napped from 10 to 12.
- 10:17We had them downstairs in a room somewhere,
- 10:19which was not a hard thing to do.
- 10:21The building wasn't super loud, right?
- 10:23We knew everybody that was here.
- 10:25There were lots of places where Sam could go tuck in and away
- 10:29if she needed to feed a baby,
- 10:30or do something with the baby.
- 10:31It was just a bit different environment in that day.
- 10:35And most everybody in the room was extremely quiet, right?
- 10:39Because most everybody in the room was an adult,
- 10:42and they understood that.
- 10:45I think it's a little bit harder.
- 10:45You'll hear the baby sometimes call and answer each other, right?
- 10:49Because the environment is more,
- 10:51it's okay to talk, right?
- 10:52When they hear other babies talking,
- 10:53they think it's okay for them to talk.
- 10:54And it's just a harder road to be able to do that.
- 10:57And we're noticing it, right?
- 10:59We're seeing it.
- 11:00I think a lot of us are feeling it, right?
- 11:02That it's difficult.
- 11:03It's a challenge.
- 11:05If you were to come to the Lord's Supper gathering
- 11:07and stay all the way to the end of our often long main gathering,
- 11:13you could be here for almost three hours.
- 11:15So if you don't have children,
- 11:16that may not feel anything for you.
- 11:19But even as I say that, I go, oh, that's a long time.
- 11:22That's a chunk of time, that long, long time together.
- 11:27So we want to help families, right?
- 11:29We want, we think it's a good thing
- 11:31that parents bear the responsibility of training their children,
- 11:34that they're engaged in that,
- 11:35that we're working on having children,
- 11:37see what's important to us as we gather as God's people.
- 11:40Like, we want them to be participating, right,
- 11:43in the way that they can.
- 11:44But it takes work and it takes time.
- 11:47And moms, we see you.
- 11:49We see that you're working hard at it.
- 11:50We know that you're putting a great deal of effort into this.
- 11:54And then finally, leaders.
- 11:58Church, you have elders.
- 11:59Most of them work full-time jobs.
- 12:02They've got a lot going on in their week as well.
- 12:04And they show up and they have responsibilities here.
- 12:07I put myself very last on the list of this
- 12:10because I get paid a salary.
- 12:12I'm full-time for the church.
- 12:15But I'm having a hard time buying the argument
- 12:16that Sunday shouldn't also be a day of rest for me.
- 12:19I love gathering with you guys,
- 12:21but I'd like to do it at a little bit of a different pace.
- 12:24I think it'd be good for me as well
- 12:26to be with you guys
- 12:27and resting in the Lord with you guys.
- 12:31I don't think that it should be exhausting for me
- 12:34to preach a sermon
- 12:35because I'm just using my gifting for your benefit.
- 12:38And I don't know that it's so much the sermon
- 12:40as it is everything else going on on a Sunday morning.
- 12:43Some of this is my fault
- 12:44because I don't prepare well.
- 12:47We hear you, Henry.
- 12:50Wait for the changes, buddy.
- 12:58Exclamation point, right?
- 13:01Some of this is that all of us could be better at preparing
- 13:04for coming together on Sunday.
- 13:06We could learn something from Genesis chapter 1.
- 13:09We see day as evening and morning.
- 13:12The old practice of Sabbath keeping
- 13:14by Jews still in this day
- 13:16and some conservative.
- 13:17It starts at sundown and goes to sundown, right?
- 13:21Some of you stayed up way too late last night.
- 13:23You're really tired this morning
- 13:24because you didn't get sleep.
- 13:26We can't do anything about that for you.
- 13:28We provide coffee,
- 13:29but that's about the limit of such a thing.
- 13:31I do too many things last minute on Sunday morning.
- 13:35If you're ever here early,
- 13:36you know that I am bouncing around
- 13:38doing all kinds of things.
- 13:40I should get that done during the week.
- 13:42And I can.
- 13:42I've got time to do it.
- 13:43I just need to do it.
- 13:44Little details, little things like that
- 13:46that just would allow me to settle in a little bit more,
- 13:50be here with everybody,
- 13:51and enjoy this time
- 13:53as we're being reminded of God's goodness to us in Christ.
- 13:57So what we want to do
- 13:59and what we're thinking toward
- 14:00is making a bit of a schedule change
- 14:03because as a structure, right,
- 14:05the schedule matters, right?
- 14:06It can affect one thing,
- 14:09but there are going to be some things
- 14:10that you're going to need to do too
- 14:11if we're going to do this well together.
- 14:12So we're going to talk about that in the future,
- 14:15but I want to talk in brief about the changes
- 14:16that we're going to make now.
- 14:18So first,
- 14:21we're going to move the Lord's Supper gathering,
- 14:23which starts now at 9.30 to 10 o'clock.
- 14:27If you're a guest here,
- 14:29we have a Lord's Supper gathering
- 14:31that's for our members or guests of our members
- 14:34that can invite you to come
- 14:36and to partake of that together.
- 14:39We would like for members of our church
- 14:41to begin seeing not two events happening on Sunday morning,
- 14:44but one event happening on Sunday morning
- 14:46that has a break in between it,
- 14:49but to see that carrying that thing holistically,
- 14:51gathering with the church in that way.
- 14:54So I want to put that forth to you members
- 14:56to really think in those terms.
- 14:57We'll start that at 10 o'clock.
- 15:00It will run just as it has for right at about 30 minutes.
- 15:04We'll read a Bible text together,
- 15:05hear a brief explanation of this text,
- 15:07pray, sing a song,
- 15:09take the Lord's Supper,
- 15:10and we'll handle matters of member care.
- 15:13For example, this morning,
- 15:14we introduced some new members to our fellowship.
- 15:17So if you're a member
- 15:18and you're not making it to that time,
- 15:19there's things happening there
- 15:20that you need to be part of, right?
- 15:22It's a family meal,
- 15:23and we want you to be able to participate in it.
- 15:27Following that dismissal from the Lord's Supper gathering,
- 15:30I'm going to spend about 10 minutes with the children
- 15:32for the time we call Aletheia Way.
- 15:34So we'll just gather down here.
- 15:35I actually think that'll be good for us
- 15:37because I can do it in a much more family worship style
- 15:40like we do at home,
- 15:42like to stop and correct from time to time,
- 15:45which is much harder to do
- 15:46when there's a bunch of people staring at you doing it.
- 15:49So we'll do that right after that for about 10 minutes
- 15:53so the kids will have a time,
- 15:54and then they'll just have some time to be rambunctious, right?
- 15:57To bounce around, work some energy out.
- 16:01Our main gathering will begin at 11.
- 16:04We're going to work really hard on it starting at 11, right?
- 16:08Hopefully, if you're a member,
- 16:10you've been here for a while,
- 16:12so you're just ready to go.
- 16:13That would be really fantastic and wonderful.
- 16:16But we're really, really going to work at that,
- 16:18being diligent to get started at that time
- 16:21because it's good for everybody in that way,
- 16:23and then we're going to work really hard at ending by 12, right?
- 16:27Not because you guys have to run out
- 16:29and beat people in line for food, right?
- 16:31At the feeding trough, wherever that may be in town.
- 16:34But for the sake of resting, right?
- 16:37That we just go, and we're done, right?
- 16:40We're going to wrap that up.
- 16:42Hang out.
- 16:43Spend as much time here as you want to in the afternoon.
- 16:45But we're going to try to see if we can be finished
- 16:47in that amount of time.
- 16:49So hear me.
- 16:49Total, if you're family, you're coming,
- 16:51and you've got two hours, right?
- 16:53With a good break in the middle of that.
- 16:56We're hoping that will serve you well.
- 16:59We're also hoping in shortening that time,
- 17:01we're going to work at kind of designing the service better
- 17:05so it carries together well.
- 17:07We're hoping to get your undivided attention for that hour, right?
- 17:10Rather than like little bits of your attention
- 17:12as different things are changing and happening.
- 17:15We're going to work.
- 17:16I'm going to be working with Jordan and Reese
- 17:17on picking songs that work well with the text for that Sunday.
- 17:22Carrying your mind along through
- 17:24what God would have us learn together on that Sunday morning.
- 17:29So again, we'll sing.
- 17:30We'll read the Bible.
- 17:31We'll pray.
- 17:32We'll have an offering.
- 17:33We'll hear a sermon, right?
- 17:35But what's going to happen is this change
- 17:37is going to necessitate a bit less music.
- 17:40And we love music here.
- 17:41I know that.
- 17:42But we're going to try to do a bit less music.
- 17:45And, and I think this is going to be the hardest part,
- 17:47shorter sermons.
- 17:48So pray for us as we try a new rhythm
- 17:53of not 45 minutes to an hour,
- 17:56but 30 to 35 minute sermons, right?
- 18:00We're going to maintain the training area across the hall.
- 18:03So there's a chance over there to try to sit with your children
- 18:05and be quiet in a place that you can correct them.
- 18:07And we're going to have childcare downstairs
- 18:09for children under three
- 18:11or for new families that are just totally like,
- 18:13what is happening?
- 18:14We didn't know to have childcare
- 18:17or just for those super tough days.
- 18:19You got a little one who's three, four years old.
- 18:21We have, you have days where it is just tough.
- 18:25And parents, your children are always welcome,
- 18:28but you got to determine like, can't, can I do this?
- 18:30Is this the thing I should be doing this morning?
- 18:32Or will it be good for me to sit and rest
- 18:35and hear the gospel in this time, right?
- 18:39The childcare is not going to be a crazy zone,
- 18:41but we're going to provide more activities than we have.
- 18:44We're going to have a lesson.
- 18:45The parents will be made aware of
- 18:46and given some tools to follow up with the kiddos
- 18:48during the week.
- 18:49And we're going to continue to encourage
- 18:51the participation of children in our gatherings.
- 18:54We're not stopping that,
- 18:55but we're just recognizing that it is a process.
- 18:58We've always known this,
- 18:59but it's been really hard as of late
- 19:01and we want to do as much as we can
- 19:02to help you in that process.
- 19:06So this is the proposal.
- 19:08We're going to give it a shot.
- 19:10I'm not asking for a vote.
- 19:11We're going to try this.
- 19:13But what we are asking for is your prayer
- 19:15as we're considering it,
- 19:16that we just would have wisdom
- 19:17for what we ought to do.
- 19:20Your patience in the process of it.
- 19:22I don't know.
- 19:22Things might, we've been doing the service
- 19:24the way we've been doing the service
- 19:25for a long time.
- 19:26The rhythm of it feels real natural to me.
- 19:28I think it's going to feel interesting
- 19:30as we come in together.
- 19:32But we also want your feedback.
- 19:33So please don't hesitate to speak
- 19:34to one of the elders.
- 19:36Give us some feedback.
- 19:37What you like, what you don't like.
- 19:39We want to do what's best for us all
- 19:42as God gives us this wonderful day.
- 19:44It should be a day that we really enjoy.
- 19:47We enjoy coming together.
- 19:48It's not causing us to crack at the seams.
- 19:51Right?
- 19:52And we would come together,
- 19:53open our Bibles,
- 19:54be reminded of God's goodness to us in Christ,
- 19:57and leave here refreshed, right?
- 19:59An afternoon that's restful
- 20:01and being prepared for the next week.
- 20:04So that is the aim.
- 20:05That's where we're headed together.
- 20:06I'm going to lead us in a prayer
- 20:07and I want the band to come lead us
- 20:09in some closing songs
- 20:10and we'll be dismissed.
- 20:11So Father, thank you very, very much for today.
- 20:13And I just do pray
- 20:14that you'll give us wisdom
- 20:15as we continue to consider
- 20:17how we can best love each other
- 20:19as we're gathering together as a people.
- 20:21And we pray this in Christ's name
- 20:22and for his glory.
- 20:24Amen.