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#119 - The First American Pope | Creator Debate with Tucker & Weinstein · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Robert Francis Provost is the new pope elected by the Catholic Church.
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  He will be taking the name Pope Leo XIV.
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  This is big news. This is big news. I was very interested this whole time as
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  this was leading up to the buildup.
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  I was excited about it. I'm happy for the Catholic Church. I'm happy for all
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  Christians. And I'm very excited
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  to see what he is going to do for the Catholic Church going forward.
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  My name is Brandon Fogle. This is Evolution. Let's dive into this.
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  And we are also going to talk about a sit down that Tucker Carlson had with Brett Weinstein.
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  And it was very good. It was very good. They didn't delve into as many topics as I'd like.
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  Brett Weinstein, he is very thoughtful in everything he says.
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  But they didn't go across every possible nook and cranny of what you could cover
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  and sit down together with Tucker Carlson.
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  Tucker seared the conversation and everything they went through,
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  but we'll get into that in a second. I just wanted to say a few things about the new Pope.
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  This is, I don't know if you could say this is Peter the Roman.
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  There was a little bit build up and I did a video the other week talking about
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  the whole prophecy about St.
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  Malachi saying, Peter the Roman that's coming.
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  Is that prophecy bunk? Because this guy's name is not Peter.
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  And even the name he took on as the new Pope doesn't even have Peter in the name.
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  But maybe it just goes with the position he has.
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  I am not a Catholic, but I highly respect the Catholic church.
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  And honestly, I have wanted to become a Catholic at times in my life.
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  I love everything about it. There's so much in there that just draws me to it.
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  But there are things that I don't completely agree with. And it's tough.
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  When you have a family and your family's not Catholic, it's tough to,
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  that's a complete shift in switch and all that.
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  So I appreciate when people do, you know, switch from one denomination to another
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  or go into the Catholic church.
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  That's not just switching one denomination to another.
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  That's just, that's completely a way of life change for your family.
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  That's why I have said, I wish, and I hope that this Pope will bring down all
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  the lines in Christianity, true Christianity, true Christianity.
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  Bring down all the barriers because Jesus said, I pray that my followers will
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  be one just as the father and Jesus are one.
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  He prayed that for all the believers in Christ.
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  And I don't know why we are 2000
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  years and it seems like we are getting fractured more and more and more.
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  You could say there's issues that we disagree on.
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  But put aside what color carpet you want in a church. Why can't we have these discussions in-house?
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  Why does it have to be Protestant, Orthodox, Catholic?
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  Can there be a coming together?
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  And I don't know if this pope could do something like that. What your thoughts are on that?
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  I would be very interested to hear. Is that a possibility? Is that even a good thing?
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  To me, I think Jesus has one church. There's one invisible church in the world
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  and his people will always be his people, you know, so why can't we come together?
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  You know, there's the visible and invisible church and maybe they just got to grow up together.
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  And that's just a part of the deal. But if he, if this new Pope could do something
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  like that, I, I would very much love that.
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  But switching gears and talking about Tucker Carlson and Brett Weinstein and
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  their sit down together, it was, it was good. Like I said, they didn't go into
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  everything, but Brett, he does, he talks a lot more thoughtful and they're not
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  just debating going back and forth.
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  And he doesn't even seem like a person that debates.
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  Carl Tucker was more, he sends his zingers and sends things about,
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  because Tucker stands on the side of there is a God, there is a creator.
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  Brett stands on the side that we are all, we are evolved species and he does
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  not rule out the possibility of the creator, but he makes it seem like you cannot know.
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  And something that he did say in the sit down that popped out to me was his
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  view on Jesus, the little bit that they talked about Jesus in the gospels.
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  He said, I really don't know too much about it.
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  I'm not a biblical scholar, so I don't know too much about it.
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  For anybody that's out there, whatever you think of Jesus.
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  He is the most well-known person in human history, so it would be a good idea
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  to look into him and find out what this guy said and did and all that, you know?
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  I mean, all the religions, whatever they are, you know, they all point to him.
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  Even Islam, looking back and just regarding him as a prophet.
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  All of them speak highly of him.
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  So it would be a good idea to find out what this man did and said,
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  because I know in Tucker and Brett, they went back and forth of,
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  because Tucker seemed like he, like there can be evolution in the whole design
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  of God that can fit into the paradigm that we find ourselves in.
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  God could have used evolution to bring all this about.
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  And I mean, I'm still open to that. I'm still looking to that,
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  but I have yet to find any good evidence, strong evidence for real Darwinism.
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  I'm, I'm really, I'm wanting to find out. I want to see it.
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  I want, and I, I, people tell me just keep reading, keep looking.
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  And I am, and I'm open to that.
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  But Brett, he goes into this long, like his, he gives a long lengthy output
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  of what he believes of how everything came about and how intricately everything
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  is woven together and there's design.
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  And he almost fits in a religion that is just a part of the spot that we are
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  in the evolution kind of time frame.
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  But when he goes through it, he goes through it so precisely and lays everything
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  out. Tucker just like, he's like.
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  But there has to be intent for it all. You know, it comes down to whether there's intent or not.
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  And he's like, you just made an incredible case for God, but you don't believe
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  in him. But you're describing a system with a goal.
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  I am describing a system with a goal, not with intent. Yeah,
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  the system has a goal. The goal is the intent, right?
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  The intent is to achieve the goal. Well, that is the sticking point.
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  I mean, this doesn't make any sense. No, no, it makes a lot of sense.
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  It makes a lot of sense. It doesn't make any sense without, I don't want to
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  use the phrase intelligent design, but like.
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  Well, let's take a parallel example.
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  Okay. We can trip over the parallel example. I just think you've made an amazing case for God.
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  And I don't know if you thought of yourself as an evangelist. No, no.
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  You just convinced me. I've made a very compelling case for belief in God.
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  Well, but what's the other explanation?
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  Well, that's just the thing. is the other explanation is that there are processes that function.
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  Let's take two examples, okay? All right.
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  Going through everything he went through, and he laid it out really clearly,
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  articulately, and it just made sense, everything he said.
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  But he never gave an explanation of why.
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  Say you throw out there being a creator.
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  How did this actually happen? And like, why did this actually happen?
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  And I thought it just fundamentally does not make sense without God,
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  no matter how much you talk about it. But he's he's very humble.
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  And he says, I don't know.
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  He's not on the atheist position, and he, so he's kind of in this,
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  like, this middle ground.
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  He's not the atheist, and he's trying to speak on their behalf,
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  but he's also trying to understand the theist position, and it just doesn't make sense.
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  It doesn't make sense at all when you really dive into it, and I.
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  Without there being a creator, we could talk about how things have,
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  what we think happened in history, but even that is still faith. It's still faith.
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  You're still taking it on someone's authority and what they've told you.
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  You're still taking it on that. As opposed to you just look outside.
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  You know, there's a God. You just look inside your own self.
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  You know, there's a God because we have this moral where we know there's things
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  that we should do that we don't do. We feel bad about things.
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  And if you don't feel bad, even an atheist would probably say that you're a
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  sociopath. So we all know that we have God's fingerprint written on our hearts. We know he's there.
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  But him going through this whole diatribe of everything about God and everything
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  about evolution and how this is here, he describes the how, but without intent
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  and without the why, none of it makes sense.
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  All of evolution points to a goal. There's becoming more and more,
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  you know, survival of the fittest. Even if that's true, it still seems like there's design.
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  Someone wound up the watch and threw it out there. And that's kind of like the deist position.
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  Whether you think they're a God, he's just really not involved.
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  But I cannot at all understand how somebody could not think there's a God or
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  believe that there's a God or know that there's a God.
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  The biblical argument is we all do know there's a God, but we suppress it.
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  We always know he's there, but we're constantly just putting up guards because
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  we're living in a fallen world.
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  We are constantly running from God.
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  Whatever we're doing, we're running from him, you know?
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  And I'm still very open to learning about evolution and how this could have
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  come about, but I still am not seeing strong evidence for it.
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  And I'm very open to it. But Tucker's on the side that like he almost assumed that evolution,
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  evolutionism is a thing, you know, and Darwinism is a thing,
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  but it, but there's still God who kind of threw everything into place and made everything happen.
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  I just wanted to quickly touch on also that they jumped onto AI and all that went into that.
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  That was another very strong point of the sit down they had together and whether
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  AI will eventually acquire consciousness and that AI is going to have consciousness
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  and we're not going to be aware of it.
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  Man, the more that I'm learning about the Nephilim and the giants of old and
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  aliens, you know, that they are a true possibility and they're not just a demonic
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  activity, but there might be something else out there.
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  It just seems like so many things are happening. And we're like,
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  it feels like on the precipice of nuclear war happening with Pakistan and India.
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  There's so many things that are just coalescing and escalating.
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  I mean, I used to think Jesus could not be coming back for at least,
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  you know, a hundred more years or a thousand more years, but I keep going back and forth like, is he?
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  Is he about to come back? Because things are just getting crazy in so many different ways.
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  And I, I mean, you go back to a thousand years. I mean, they were just wondering
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  if their corn's going to come up, if they were going to be able to grow some
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  wheat to be able to survive.
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  And now we got AI about to get, have consciousness.
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  People, kings, you know, dictators, presidents have the opportunity,
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  have their hand over nuclear codes that could send off bombs into the air at any moment.
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  And we got all this technology and it's just so many wild things are happening.
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  I can't even express like it's a crazy time to be alive. I don't know if it's
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  a good time to be alive, but it's certainly a crazy one.
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