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Ep. 448: Munching Off the Mussel Tree · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Meat Eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,
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  Speaker 1: bug bitten, and in my case, underwear.
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  Speaker 2: Listening toast, you can't predict anything presented by First Light,
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  Speaker 2: creating proven versatile hunting apparel from Marino bass layers to
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  Speaker 2: technical outerwear.
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  Speaker 1: For every hunt, First Light, Go farther, stay longer. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we're recording in Seth's trashed out. A frame is trashed out, Moldy, Alaska.
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  Speaker 1: A frame which is looking really good. What's coming a
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  Speaker 1: long way? Looking really good? The porch is still gone. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no porch. The porch fell off.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of a nice touch though, because you know
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  Speaker 3: those endless pools.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 1: It's like an infinity It's like an infinity house.
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  Speaker 5: When the tide is up and you sit where Chester is,
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  Speaker 5: it's an infinity house. You cannot see land in between
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  Speaker 5: the front windows.
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  Speaker 1: And the and the water. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So we're looking at two big sliding glass doors at
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  Speaker 6: the ocean.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: When Seth bought his southeast last gay frame, I think
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  Speaker 1: had you bought it? When I notified that your porch
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  Speaker 1: was gone? Oh yeah, yeah, I came up and I
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  Speaker 1: seth recollexes. I don't recollect. Yeah, I'll tell a story.
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  Speaker 7: Kay.
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  Speaker 5: We we hadn't as as the crew that bought this place.
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  Speaker 5: We hadn't been up here all together yet. I was
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  Speaker 5: the only one that had seen this place. Everyone else
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  Speaker 5: bought Sight Unseen. But you came up last spring to
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  Speaker 5: bear Hunt and I get a phone call from you
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  Speaker 5: and you say I have good news and I have
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  Speaker 5: bad news. And I was like, all right, well, let's
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  Speaker 5: let's hear the bad news. And he goes, your porch
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  Speaker 5: fell off. It's a high Like, what do you mean
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  Speaker 5: fell off? And he said it fell off, it's laying
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  Speaker 5: on the ground. Said all right, well, what's the good news?
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  Speaker 5: He said, the fishing has been good.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing right off top, going out of going
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  Speaker 1: on a book tour with a twist, No, not really
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  Speaker 1: a twist. So our first book ever for kids is
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  Speaker 1: coming out, and we got some great videos coming up
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  Speaker 1: to show the book. We got great videos. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like those kind of videos where you
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  Speaker 1: see someone doing something in a little bits. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to tell you call them the process videos. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: process video. So we got a process video coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Making your own scaler and scaling the bluegill, all with
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  Speaker 1: real live kids doing it. We've got a process video
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  Speaker 1: coming up. This will be on my Instagram at Steven
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  Speaker 1: Ranella wherever. We got a process video coming up. And
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  Speaker 1: make a bull gun out of nothing but stuff that
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  Speaker 1: would be in any house besides a little chunk of PBC,
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  Speaker 1: which is in most houses. Yeah, if you're a kid,
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  Speaker 1: just tear the PVC off the wall.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm, take a blow gun out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Out of the wall. In my place, they used to
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  Speaker 1: be exposed. But uh, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: dig around, tear the sheet rock up. See if you
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  Speaker 1: find the BBC back there.
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  Speaker 3: You can find up here at the shack and.
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  Speaker 4: Get you get your thing.
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  Speaker 1: So everything every the book has everything you need to
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  Speaker 1: not everything. You still gotta love them and feed them
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  Speaker 1: and everything, but has much of what you need to
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  Speaker 1: raise adventurous, competent outdoor kids with a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a raw edge to them. How to build, how to
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  Speaker 1: build a campfires, how to build their own little ground blind,
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  Speaker 1: how to build bullfrog gigs. Navigation using sun, navigation using stars,
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  Speaker 1: hot tips on tree climbing, emergency shelters, identifying fossils, fish gutting,
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  Speaker 1: animal tracking, much more. It's a great kids activity book.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of stuff's little bit dangerous, so you gotta
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  Speaker 1: do it with them. Some stuff's fine.
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  Speaker 4: You go through the.
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  Speaker 1: Book and you decide what the kid could do by
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  Speaker 1: himself and what the kid ought to wait for you
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  Speaker 1: to help them with. So I'm gonna go on. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go on tour to sign the books, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: be gone. I'll be out June sixteenth to June twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be signing first edition copies of the new book
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  Speaker 1: at Shields stores. Okay, so you go to your local
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  Speaker 1: Shields store in the town's I'm gonna tell you about
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  Speaker 1: a second here, and we'll do pictures and sign books. Billings.
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  Speaker 1: That's Billings, Montana, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Omaha, Nebraska, Kansas City, Missouri, Dallas, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: Colorado Springs and Johnston, Colorado, and Sandy, Utah. No eastern
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  Speaker 1: cities at this time. But we're gonna do a lot.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna have live shows coming up and
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  Speaker 1: we'll hit other areas. Uh So here here's how this works.
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  Speaker 1: And this is it's annoying, but it's just true. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta buy a ticket to go. But all you're doing
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  Speaker 1: you need to buy a ticket just buying the book. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you have to buy the book to go to get
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  Speaker 1: in the door. I think there might be some way
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  Speaker 1: to do it there, but like just but but it's capped. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So you buy the book. It's like you're buying a ticket,
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  Speaker 1: but you're not. You're getting the book and and bring
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  Speaker 1: your kids, like you don't need to buy a book
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  Speaker 1: for everybody, like you know, buy the book, bring your kids.
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  Speaker 4: So, any how's this go? I'm gonna make sure I
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  Speaker 4: get this right.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you go to get them?
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  Speaker 6: Hey, to clarify, you're saying that a ticket would get
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  Speaker 6: a family in Yeah, okay, that's big.
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  Speaker 7: It's big.
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  Speaker 1: Visit them meteater dot com for tickets. So go to
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  Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com for tickets and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: you at uh at the Shields store in those locations.
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  Speaker 1: They'll get their book at the store with the ticket.
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  Speaker 1: I believe you redeem it. Yeah, that's right, it sounds right.
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  Speaker 1: You get it, and it's just the it's the cover
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  Speaker 1: price of the book. It's just the cover price of
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  Speaker 1: the book. When you get there, your book will be
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  Speaker 1: waiting for you. Will get your book signed. It's great.
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  Speaker 1: Do some pictures. Shield Stores got it.
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  Speaker 4: That's big. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did you say the name of the book, Steve. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you said the name of the book. I
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  Speaker 1: know you've said it a lot, Clay, I know you
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  Speaker 1: said it a lot. Guy's like a professional cat. Count
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  Speaker 1: the Stars. Great mind that fun projects, skills and adventures
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  Speaker 1: for outdoor kids.
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  Speaker 6: I think this would be a good book to buy
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  Speaker 6: as a gift for people that have young kids for real,
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  Speaker 6: like as as a friend the family that's got young
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  Speaker 6: kids and you're going, let's say you're going to their
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  Speaker 6: house for you know, a special holiday. You just want
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  Speaker 6: to bring a housewarming gift or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Catch a crayfish. Count the Stars. I'm going to get
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  Speaker 3: one for Oscar.
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  Speaker 4: That's a great idea. I'll tell you one, as.
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  Speaker 3: Long as it's signed to Oscar Love Steve.
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  Speaker 1: I was fishing the day you were born. There you go,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's what it's gonna say. But didn't catch nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave that little detail because I wasn't with
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  Speaker 3: your dad.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 1: Uh oh, here here's a call to action. I need everybody.
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  Speaker 1: People got to listen up. We're doing so. If you
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  Speaker 1: followed our Campfire Story series Campfire Stories Close Calls, there's
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  Speaker 1: the Close Calls Volume one, Close Calls Volume two. These
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  Speaker 1: are audio originals we're working on running right now. And
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  Speaker 1: here's what we're looking for. We're looking for people out
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  Speaker 1: there who have had unexpected finds finding something crazy. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even need to be totally unexpected, but finding something crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say you were the person that found the Edmund
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  Speaker 1: Fitzgerald sunk on the bottom Leg Superior. That's say you
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  Speaker 1: found a body that had been missing for decades while
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  Speaker 1: you're out hunting. That's interesting. Definitely say you had say
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  Speaker 1: you were, oh this artifact yep. Like for instance, when
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  Speaker 1: we had Mike Cunson and Mike Couns talked about finding
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  Speaker 1: the MASA site, that's interesting. It could be anything that
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  Speaker 1: we're just looking for great stories of finding discovery. It
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  Speaker 1: could even be and I hesitant to say this, but
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  Speaker 1: in the perfect scenario, it could be that you found
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  Speaker 1: out something about yourself.
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  Speaker 5: But go light on those. That's a high bar about
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  Speaker 5: like finding a well preserved bear trap in the mountains.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect, that would be good. Here's another one that's good
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  Speaker 1: you find a frozen ice age hunter coming thawing out
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  Speaker 1: of a glacier. Hey, what if.
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  Speaker 6: You your father was hunting in the nineteen nineties and
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  Speaker 6: he died, but before he died, he shot a bull
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  Speaker 6: elk that he never found that fell into a glacier.
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  Speaker 6: Twenty years later, you come back with your son who's
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  Speaker 6: never met his grandfather, and you find the bull elk
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  Speaker 6: in the glacier.
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  Speaker 1: How about that?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, okay, okay, a hermit, you found a little hermit.
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  Speaker 1: That would be a good story. The more relevance, the
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  Speaker 1: better to the find, like, for instance, the guy that
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  Speaker 1: found Samuel Champlainan's astro labe while tilling a field in Ontario.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting, but you can't set.
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  Speaker 6: The bar too high because most of us have not
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  Speaker 6: made like world changing discoveries in the wild.
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  Speaker 1: We need to hear stories about the stories we're looking at.
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  Speaker 4: So if you got.
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  Speaker 3: One, If you were fishing and you hooked body with
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  Speaker 3: your number, a box with your or an old shoe
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  Speaker 3: with your crank bait and reel them in and it
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  Speaker 3: was a person.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right in about that for sure.
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  Speaker 5: When I was beach combing yesterday, I came across the
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  Speaker 5: wet suit down in all the rubble. You did, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I did? And I was like, am I about to
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  Speaker 5: find a dead person?
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  Speaker 1: You found a wetsuit beach coming?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was all tore up. Yeah, you didn't even
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  Speaker 4: tell us. You should write into this email.
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  Speaker 1: I about ready to give I will campfire stories at
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  Speaker 1: the meater dot com onto the news.
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  Speaker 4: I was like reluctant to cover anything.
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  Speaker 1: Out of Yellowstone guy the Yellowstone. A bunch of bikes
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  Speaker 1: that swim across the river, although Calf can't make it
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  Speaker 1: to him. Calf gets stranded on the bank. Okay, the
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  Speaker 1: herd takes off the other side.
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  Speaker 4: Of the Lamar.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody put it in their car.
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  Speaker 4: Again, No, he didn't do that.
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  Speaker 1: He screed it up the hill and like screried it
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  Speaker 1: back up the hill away from the river. A white male.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, by that, that's it. That's it. I was thinking, like.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, Balder baldering today is long blue T shirt?
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  Speaker 1: Are we looking for this guy? Shades? So I think
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  Speaker 1: they got him. He's got a grain beard, shades, Balder
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  Speaker 1: and cow.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be that Ma came down
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  Speaker 4: down the bank and.
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  Speaker 1: No, he they already found him. He played guilty. OK
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  Speaker 1: so this guy got in trouble for doing that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so he he uh, he got intro over doing it.
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  Speaker 1: So he pushed the struggling calf up from the river
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  Speaker 1: and onto the roadway, where it proceeded to like follow
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  Speaker 1: cars around and be abandoned. And they said the herd
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't accept it because the man touched it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that I buy that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't either.
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  Speaker 1: I think that it might have or like it didn't
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  Speaker 1: cross the river when they crossed the river and they
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  Speaker 1: abandoned it there. I think this guy's getting in trouble
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  Speaker 1: for something he didn't do. Find two hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 1: five bucks and had to pay five hundred dollars to
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  Speaker 1: the Yellowstone Park Foundation Wildlife Protection Fund. He didn't flat
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  Speaker 1: out break the rules. You can't get within you can't.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta stay twenty five yards away from uh, you
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  Speaker 1: got to stay twenty five yards away from by some
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  Speaker 1: hundred yard hundred yards away from bears wolves. Park officials
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  Speaker 1: are investigating. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 5: At this point, it's not clear to people that like
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  Speaker 5: when you go to Yellowstone, don't touch the animals.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you can picture this poor you can picture this
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  Speaker 4: poor guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, it's stranded, dude.
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  Speaker 3: How many It's still like, how many people go to
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  Speaker 3: Yellowstone every year? Like the chances of there being a
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  Speaker 3: couple kind of you.
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  Speaker 1: Just can't get the word out enough. Yeah, just don't
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  Speaker 1: touch the animals, don't touch the critters, and like, don't
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  Speaker 1: touch the critters.
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  Speaker 5: But also I don't know what people's like vision of
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  Speaker 5: Yellowstone is, but like natural life still goes on there,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and like if you see a bison calf
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  Speaker 5: that's like about to die, like it would have like
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  Speaker 5: that's how it works.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it's like they've never heard of Yellowstone because if
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  Speaker 7: you're looking for Yellowstone in the news, it's just people
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  Speaker 7: getting in trouble forgetting too close to the animals.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you meet that place, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: get in trouble to touch everything. A listener did us
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  Speaker 1: a great favor. We've talked a couple of times about
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  Speaker 1: the guy. Every time. If you're like a male, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how they I'm sure this is served heavily
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  Speaker 1: to males. If you're a male in the let's say
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  Speaker 1: twenty to fifty age bracket, I'm guessing who they're serving
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  Speaker 1: this ad to you're familiar with the shirtless guy making
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  Speaker 1: selfie videos or he's on fake podcasts, yeah v shred,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, he'll say something to the effect of yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh is it. I think he'll say something to the
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  Speaker 1: effect of everybody knows cardio, Bill burns fat right wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well the YouTube ats yeah yeah, and you
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  Speaker 1: want to and you don't talk, and you're like, man.
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  Speaker 7: Is he right?
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  Speaker 1: Well a guy he was. He was alerting me a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times to a testosterone killing food.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard that one.
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  Speaker 1: And I would watch as long as I could bear it,
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  Speaker 1: and I did never find out what exactly is killing
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  Speaker 1: men's testosterone. So a guy had a listener after listening
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  Speaker 1: to Monday's episode, you guys are joking about the YouTube
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  Speaker 1: ad guy where the guy never gets to the point.
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  Speaker 1: Shortly after listening, of course, his ad popped up. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a painter, so I threw in my earbud. God's listening
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  Speaker 1: after watching a one hour and eighteen minute video, no joke.
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  Speaker 1: The mystery food killing testosterone was flax seeds ps. After
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: watching the video, I'm still unsure of what the guy
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  Speaker 1: is selling. Huh, that really is one of the great
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  Speaker 1: mysteries of the Internet.
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  Speaker 4: Now here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, just like one of that guy's selling.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, folks, stay tuned, because're gonna pretty sum We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about the new revolutionary black bear hunting technique
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  Speaker 1: I developed Clay executed upon. It was a it was
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  Speaker 1: a cold ab Yeah. I developed it and then quickly
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  Speaker 1: tried to abandon it, but Clay stuck it out. Clay
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  Speaker 1: stuck it out and developed the new technique, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: hesitant to even bring up. I might make a YouTube
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  Speaker 1: video where I'd be like, what's the best way to
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  Speaker 1: kill a black bird? And just and then you watch
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  Speaker 1: and watch, watch, I'd never tell you and at the
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  Speaker 1: end you're like, this one secret.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you guys gotta pay attention because this is very philosophical.
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  Speaker 1: In episode four forty, you all debated whether it would
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  Speaker 1: be okay to lie on a rental application, asking if
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  Speaker 1: a tenant planned to bring firearms into a home. I
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  Speaker 1: remember this, He says, this is not an etiquette question,
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  Speaker 1: it's a philosophical question. During that converse, Steve used the
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  Speaker 1: quote murderer at the door scenario. Now pay careful attention.
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  Speaker 1: Most of the other podcast members, and especially phil seemed
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  Speaker 1: to think it was irrelevant to the situation being discussed.
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  Speaker 1: I'm quoting from the person that wrote in it's actually
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  Speaker 1: it's my favorite part. It's actually very relevant. The murder
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  Speaker 1: at the door scenario was made by the philosopher Emmanuel
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  Speaker 1: Cant in the eighteenth century, specifically to counter a French
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  Speaker 1: philosopher's claim that you only have a moral obligation to
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  Speaker 1: tell the truth to one who has a right to truth.
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  Speaker 1: Can't believe that being truthful was a sacred and unconditionally
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  Speaker 1: commanding law in all situations, even if there was a
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  Speaker 1: murder at your door looking for your friend. Can't would
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  Speaker 1: say that the man who wrote in asking for advice
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  Speaker 1: was morally obligated to be truthful on the rental application,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of the potential outcome. The less famous French philosopher,
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  Speaker 1: who I think is right, would say that the man
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  Speaker 1: could morally lie if the person renting the home had
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  Speaker 1: no right to know, if a potential tenant had firearms,
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  Speaker 1: no right to know. Meaning you're out fishing and you
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  Speaker 1: just laying on a real hotspot. Some guy you never
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  Speaker 1: met in your life says, are you catching anything? You
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  Speaker 1: go just a little one or whatever. You say, nothing much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that happened that you feel that happened all the time.
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  Speaker 4: They have no right to know.
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  Speaker 1: But then, but then your main fishing partner says, did
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  Speaker 1: you catch any He has a right to know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, if I'm catching him, I'm on the phone
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  Speaker 5: with my main fishing partner.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead, if I'm not with him.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to hear the rest? Because he gets
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  Speaker 1: into you in a minute here?
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  Speaker 4: Sure?
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  Speaker 3: Why not?
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  Speaker 1: Chester's argument that if the wife really wanted the apartment
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  Speaker 1: and you did too, then you could fib it a
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: little bit, which is a quote, is essentially hedonism, a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: philosophy which claims that man's only moral obligation is to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: maximize his own pleasure. I don't think there are many
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: etiquette books written by hedonists, So if he acts fast,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: he might be a able to corner the market. Could
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I give one last thing before you counter Chester? He says, Anyways,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: love the podcast. I've noticed I'm not going to get
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: into details on this. He goes, I've noticed that there's
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: often an inverse correlation between the fame of your guest.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: And the quality of the show.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: It goes on to have many examples which I'm not
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: going to read the examples because that's mean go ahead, Chester.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was kind of going back and forth on that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: That one the etiquette thing there. I think I should
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: have stuck with my guns what I said.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: First, which was none of their business.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: No, I think I said I would tell the truth.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You're like a can't You're like an emmanual can't. Yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: but whatever, I would not tell the truth.
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: Hey, everyone, filled just chiming in here to stave off
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: any sort of snarky emails we might get containing something
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: along the lines of, oh, Steve can't pronounce Kant, a
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: dumb joke that I would never make. Of course, Steve
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: is aware that the name is pronounced Emmanuel kanked.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Back to the.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Show, guy wrote in about uh, for some ate, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: can't remember this. We were talking about coin purses made
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: out of kangaro nut sacks.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Is that true?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not shocking.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I think we talked about that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Wasn't there like a they shut down?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I remember talking about anyway, this guy says,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: my family we have a long history making buck ball
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: bag gearshift covers after you get a buck. I've seen
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: these sharing it. I've never done it. After you get
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a buck, you cut the scroll off and empty the contents.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: You didn't put that over the shift knob like a helmet.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I like that little detail like a helmet on your
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: manual transmission or transfer k ship knob and tie the
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: bottom off of the short piece of straight He likes
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to run fuzzy side out. The bag drives around the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: shift knobs, saving you, leaving you with a great conversation
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: piece and a warm soft spot to put your hand
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: in a cold winter's day. Most commonly people will ask
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: if it's a rabbit.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, anyone who takes issue with it doesn't
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: need to ride all that bad. He also points out
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: there's no stink. As the hair wears off over time,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you'll be left with a thin lever color, a thin
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: leather cover that can last for years. Eventually it will
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: crack one day. You'll have to take it off or
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: it'll fall off. The factory nob becomes a subconscious reminder
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that has been a while since you were successful.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: This is deep. I feel like you should.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, find a roll for this guy. Email writer Mulders
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: seemed to best for my making model Antelope or tad
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: small big shifter elk is too big. Big horn sheep
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: sacks would probably cover the shift now shift lever and
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: half the transmission. You can't send a picture because he's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: in Japan.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Oh wow, we need to have that guy under a buck.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: This guy's good.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I want to know what he's doing in Japan. It's
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: probably he's military.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, what's a guy that's got a
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: buck buck sack on his shifter doing in Japan?
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Military? Here's a good one.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: This is a chatticate question, so the rule on chettikot
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: check gets the final answer, even though it's probably wrong.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Can I coach him just a little bit? Yeah, I'm
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: staying out of.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: No no, no no, like beforehand, like I don't want to
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: get into the we need, this is what we need?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: He would tell you would he would lose the apartment
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: over someone telling someone something that's none of their business. Well,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying we just need more certainty.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: I think you know you have an opinion. Yeah, I
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: think you're being more like a magic eight ball. You're
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: being pulled a little bit too hard. I think sometimes
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: we're left not knowing really what you think.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I think really what happens is like I'm on a
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: podcast right now, so what I say is gonna be
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: heard by a lot of people. So I'm thinking about
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: it too hard, and I just need to go with
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: my guts and trust yourself. So I'm going to be certain.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Is cheikak.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say anything, Clay I want you can
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: talk about it. You can talk about it, Doctor Randall.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Feel free. I have a question concerning the purchase of land.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Seth perk right up to see that I like purchasing land.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I have found.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I have found fifteen acres in a western state that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: is bordered by over fifteen thousand acres of mostly land.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Locked public land.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: There are only a couple of homes within a quarter
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: mile from the house, so it's perfectly remote. But you
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: still have what I'm hoping to cool neighbors. If I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: purchase the land, what do I do about public access?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be the feller in Wyoming that
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: brought the nonsense corner crossing bs, which a judge is
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you know that that guy's getting totally shot down. There's
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: just another ruling in that case, which is more to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the effect of nothing happened like nothing happened to your land.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: No damage is done by corner crossers. We're gonna cover
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that in greater detail as things become more clear. Anyhow,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be that guy. However, I don't
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: know how I feel about a bunch of people parking
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: on my land to access to public land. Now that
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I'm typing this, I don't really know how to ask
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: what I want to know.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I think he wants to know, would you let would
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: you let people? So, here's your land to access to?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeh, so here he's saying, here I am. I'm gonna
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: buy a chunk of private land that has access to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: landlocked public land. Does he have a moral obligation to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: make his house a trailhead? Well, I don't think. From
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think a moral obligation.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: No.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Well, so I'm staying out of it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, from the contract, from the context that we
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: got he leaves in there he says mostly landlocked. So
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: if if it's truly landlocked, I would say, I'm all
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: about letting people access public land. I think we are
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: all too, So I would say you could probably work
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: with your work with the state and get a little
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: parking area or something and.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Really you would do that, Chester, I don't think you
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: understand what's happening here?
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: What he?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I do?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, as are you kidding me?
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: You might have just bought the best hunting property, Jess.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: You're saying, you're saying that if you bought fifteen acres
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: of land and it gave you access to fifteen thousand
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: acres of landlocked and when he says mostly land, I
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: don't know what he means. But okay, you bought fifteen
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: acres in a butt's a big chunk of landlocked public
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you're saying you would turn your fifteen acres into a
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: public access part. That's that is wonderful if true.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, dude, think about all this stuff we do
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: at Meat Eater to get access to public land, like
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: you put where your mouth is. Yeah, why wouldn't Why
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: wouldn't you if you're if we're we're the ones raising
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: money to get easements and stuff like this.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: What about if you didn't work at meat Eater.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I probably I wouldn't let people access.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Real life scenario.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: You wouldn't be quite that altruistic like in a real
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: life scenario.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: We I'm just saying with what we're doing, right now
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I'm being certain here, Okay, Clay, Okay, with what we're
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: doing at meat Eater and raising all this money for
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: land access and stuff. Absolutely, that's fifteen thousand whatever he said,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: that's a ton of hunting land that that for that
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: we are raising money for currently to try and like
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: get little easements.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: And I like him to send me the listing. He
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't even give what state.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say that guy, if he's ever interested
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: in selling, should send an email to cal kelb and
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: and and maybe they can work out a little land
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: access initiative deal.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: There, did I say I was gonna stay out of it?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: You did, Well, you can take it back. I'm taking
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: it back. Here's what I do. Here's what I do
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: if I real world scenario I bought that chunk. Real
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: world scenario is I wouldn't be a tight ass with
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: my friends and stuff, but I don't know that I
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: would actually turn my home into a trailhead. I would
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: probably be like I like to think I would be
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: very generous with friends and kids and neighbors and whatnot,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: But I don't know that I would put up a sign,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: just just trying to be realistic. And I think it's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it's it's a there.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: It could be spread out into different areas of life
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: where you have access to something good. It's like we
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: have a great elk pot roast cooking in the kitchen.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: Are we gonna let all the strangers that want to
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: come eat dinner with us? Come eat dinner?
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: No?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, are we gonna.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just like there's all kinds of stuff
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: that we individually have access to that we have a
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: right to as humans, to have some access to something that's.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: And this guy, as the most recent purchaser of land
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: adjacent to this big chunk of public it's he's under
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: no obligation to solve a problem that everybody else isn't solving. Yeah,
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: I mean he might actually he might piss off his neighbors.
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: Or he will for sure. Oh yeah, if and if
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: you really I mean, I would approach it similarly to you.
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: And if I felt really good guilty about it, I
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: would make it my life's mission to establish new access
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: to some other piece of public life someone else on
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: the other side of the way.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: It would be the same question of if you had,
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: you know, fifteen acres of private ground. It's like Chester,
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: would you let the public public hunt, and answer would
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: be would be no.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Here's Oh that's a great Let's say yeah, Chester, Let's
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: say you bought.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Here's the deal. Clay brought up the pot roast thing.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: You know, if I'm cooking a pot roast in my
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: kitchen and I'm not going to go hold a sign
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: out like Steve saying hey, come and get some pot roast.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: But if some guy out there rolls up on his
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: boat and it's raining and he's like, you guys, got
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: any food, I'm going to welcome in in here with
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: open arms and I'm going to give him some of
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: that pot roast. Is if I own a chunk of
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: private property. My father, he owns a junk of private property.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have a sign out in front of it
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: saying come hunt. Okay, But if some guy comes over
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: with it compelling story.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Moldial a frame porch fell off, Yeah, it'd be generous.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, our friend Carl, Carl Malcolm, that's ask my father there.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: But on your property, my a frame in Alaska, the
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: porch fell off, I can hunt.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Sorry, go ahead.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: So I I know a guy also that has an
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: easement through his property and he's got it on the corner.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have a big old sign out there. People
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: aren't constantly people know, the people that know know, and
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: it's not a whole lot of people accessing that. And
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: also those people that access through that do all kinds
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: are real nice things for that guy, really like, you know,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: they take care of him. So I don't think it
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: be the worst thing in the world. It's all just
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: depends on the situation. But we gotta we gotta put
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: our money where our mouth is at meat eating.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: Back in the day, while I was still in Pennsylvania,
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: I was real young. The hunting property at my family owns,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: which you got Steve Chat, you've guys seen. We used
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: to be enrolled in this program with the Game Commission
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: where they would supply trees and food, plot seed, and
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: we would plan all that stuff and then let the
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: public on it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: But that quickly quickly ended, did it? Yeah?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Too much chaos?
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Too much chaos.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: You try to go up to your tree staying on
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: opening morning and someone's sitting in your stand like it
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: was just yeah too it was too much to handle,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: and you just basically lost all your opportunity on your
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: own property.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: But it worked for a little bit. But yeah, so
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: that's like.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Kind of brings this whole conversation on the sour note
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: just one perspective.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm glad that there's chesters out there.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe there are a lot of chesters out there in
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the world, because I know and am the beneficiary of
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: many landowners who are exceedingly generous. Doug, Bubby Doug. I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: can't remember to help someone like Bubby. I can't remember
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: with the number Bubby Doug had like forty some people
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: hundred dugs place last year.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: He's controlled about it. You know, you got like.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Turkey a season, Turkey b season down the line, you
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: got like you know, youth dear rifle late this. You know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: he's measured about it and kind of has a schedule
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: in his head. But man, yeah, nothing wrong with being generous,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: super generous. My friend Mark lives by me. Super generous
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: people are always out there, super good about kids. Right,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: He's not in a program, he's not an access program,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: no big sign out front, but like exceedingly generous to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the point where you like you're saying, to the point
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: where you are costing yourself opportunity because you could just
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you could just be like mine, mind mine.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: But in the in the long run that that probably
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: makes a guy like Doug, you know, just just a
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: happier human being because he's sharing and stuff. I don't know.
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: So could we say that this guy has a moral
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: obligation to be generous?
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: No, no, but he'd probably he'd probably feel good if
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: he was.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, ready to move on?
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Yep, you go, Chester, Yeah, I'm good.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: So the final thing is Chester is Chester's taking the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: moral high ground, doing what's right. Yeah, So we kind
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: of forgot about the listener. If you buy that place,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: it's great. If you don't let me know where that
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: spot's at.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Whatever he does, you know, I'm not going to be
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: bummed up, you know, if he wants to keep that
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: to himself, just what I would do.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: So over the years of over the years of hunting
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: coastal black bears, I have made adopted a couple of
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: strategies that I like. And one strategy I adopted for
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: hunting coastal black bears is to do it in waiters. Now,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: when you're doing it in waiters, there is the obvious
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: safety risk. You do not want to go overboard in
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: deep water with good current cold water in waiters. That
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: is a that's just the reality. You could act like
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you're going to be so diligent that you don't put
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: your waiters on until you're ready to get out and
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: go after a bear, But that's you're.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Not being realistic.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I leave in my waiters and I am out in
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: my skiff in my waiters, which many people would think
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: is not smart because when you go overboard, if you
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: hit something. And we were hanging out with the kid
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: last night that recently went overboard. He had a full
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: survival suit on, so a full Mustang suit. I'll think
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: about getting me one of them full Mustang suits.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: You should do it, man. This me being up here
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: for the first time. It's striking to me. I think
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: you guys are desensitized to it. But how dangerous that, sir?
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Oh it is.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I was talking to an uber driver in catch Can
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: one time and he was coastguard and we got to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: talking and he had over his career, he's kind of
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: retired and started driving. Over his career, he had been
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: to many distress calls and many bodies. One that shook
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: him up one time is the guy had tied himself
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: to his skiff, tied himself to the flipped over, tied
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: himself to a capsized skiff, and he felt.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: It was obviously so that his body would be recovered.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Another time, he talked about two people had made it
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to the beach and were dead leaning on a tree
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: in the winter.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: What one of the first days we were out and
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: some of the bigger water, we were probably a half
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: mile from shore, maybe closer than that. And I said, Steve,
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: we have a wreck right now, and go in the water.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: Can I make it to that shore swimming? And he
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: was like, no, probably not. And it was kind of
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: arising to me because you feel like adrenaline.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: The current is so strong, dude.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: And you'd and you'd make it, but the water's so
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: cold you'd just lock up before you got there.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: When we were diving scallop, just to give you sense
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: of the current. So when we were diving scallops the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: other day, I had a spot that I was diving
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: down to that I was marking because it was about
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: it was like at a two o'clock position, about twenty
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: five yards off the bottle of the boat, the boats
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: anchored thirty feet of water. I would dive down, hit
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the bottom and then ride the current, looking so it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: an eighteen foot skiff. I'm twenty five yards up in
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: a one minute dive. When I pop up, I'm back
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: of the stern. Really weep.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: You could have swum, you could have swam against the fins. Yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: but where you're talking about that shoreline, you're talking about
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: the current runs parallel to that short line. It just
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: takes you down theh So you would have a hard
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: time getting on an incoming tide to be a lot
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: better than an outgoing tide.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, yeah, like likely likely not in
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: fifty degree water. I've got a little bit once we
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: get first without a survival colt. But we you know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: we used survival colts. But the kids were talking about
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: he hit a he hit a it's crazy, he hit
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: a tree caught this. No, he had a tree that
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: had snapped off on top and the tree was oriented
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: vertically in the water, root wad and everything. Wow, And
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the end of the tree was was bobbing up and
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: down at the surface. The tree was standing upright in
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the water. Huh, So you would have seen nothing. No,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: gashed a hole in his thing. He was able to
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: swim to the beach his march, but it was like
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a warm sunny day. He gashed a hole in his boat,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: had a full on, full survival suit, made it to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the beach, walked up to Loggin Road. I wouldn't have
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: known what a Mustang suit was.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: So these survival coats are basically it's like a jacket
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: with a zipper and pockets, but it's a it's a
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: flotation device.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mustang is like the maker. It's a brand. Yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Mustang is a leading maker of survival coats. Yeah, there
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: are other brands.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: And it floats you in, insulates you.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Picture of life jacket with a with sleeves.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Hey, when we get when we get more, I don't
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: want to give away the bear stuff.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Full of a current.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: I've got a current thing about the about being having
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: a sense of being pulled out.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Oh so point being before I was before I got
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: distracted there. What I was getting at was it's dangerous
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: riding around a skiffing your waiters.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just bear it a mine.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Where are you're maybe put your Mustang colde on so
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: you counteract, Wait, just your legs and fall off.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Uh so.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Oh it's so good for like it's just a great
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: way to cause you. You don't have to think about
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: where you're getting out. You can't shoot from a boat.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I remember one time we lost the bear. The bear
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: was going on the beach and went up in the timber.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: We pulled up and my buddy Ryannie. We pulled up
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I'm gonna wail on a predator call.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And I started wailing on that predator call. And that
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: bear looked like I was going to get in the
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: boat with us when he come back out of the timber.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: But we're pull pulled up on a steep thing, and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I said, you can't shoot from a boat.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: So I was like, get out of the boat. Get
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: out of the boat so he could shoot it.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: It's too deep. One who cares? But two had you
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: had waiters on, whoop, let's jump right in. Yeah, So
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I like to hunt in waiters. One day, I was
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: sitting there years ago, and I never took action on it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: It's just one of those thought I had. I was
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: looking at some bear or another and I was thinking, man,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: if I had my wet suit, I would just swim
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: up to that bear. No problem in a wet suit.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: He would just think it was a seal coming. I
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: mentioned this to Clay, and Clay said, I'm gonna do
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: that with my boat. That's about the way it happened.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: So Clay got himself a seven mil wet suit, five
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: mil with a one liner. Is that what you did? Yeah,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Our friends over at rob Allen made him a suit.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Did you do the custom measurements? Yeah, forty two measurements. Man,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: it gets real personal.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: That she measurements of every circumference.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: On my body.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I did the same thing.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: So got a five mil suit with a one mill liner,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and bought a little teeny pool toy boogie board.
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: I hate it, like a like a thirty inch very
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: cheap fore and made, you know, a little boogie board
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: from some box store, you know, And it had all
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: the beach colors on top, and it was kind of
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: like a scaly black on the bottom. And I spray
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: painted a little camo on top because that's what my
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: bow floated on. So I drilled two holes up through
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: the it was just dirofoam and put a piece of
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: hay string through the holes and I would do just
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: like a little slip knot over the handle of the
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: bow to sinch it down.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I feel you should have gone bellcross trap.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it probably would have been better, Probably would have
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: been better painted a seal's face on the front. Yeah, yeah,
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: we're seeing a lot of seals up here. Hey, can
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: I can I describe the land features of why this
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: is significant?
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Oh? Why it matters?
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: I mean because I don't think it would be. It
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: wasn't evident to me here in you tell why this
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: would be effective. It was actually more effective than I
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: thought it would be. I was envisioning a lot of
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: like long straight shorelines. Yeah, that's what you think when
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: you think shorelines, But this is not that this. There
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: are uncountable islands and just much variation.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: And in the swim around to a little day island.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Hop.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we watched multiple bears swim.
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: And there aren't too many. There aren't too many big
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: flats on the on the coastline. I mean, there's some
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: grass flats tucked away here.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: And let me get let me go, let me give
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: another little detail. Got two kinds of black bears. You
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: got black bears eating beech ry, eating grass grass. You
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: got black bears eating muscles and crabs on a low tide,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you know, and the and the and like the waiter
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: strategy is good for either. But we're talking about we're
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: talking about bears that are in the rocks.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: So the first day that I was here, we weren't
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: quite ready to commit. Randall was hunting and that y'all
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: had an incredible hunt, and I was in my waiters.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Randall kills a.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: Bear, and we can talk about that later. I got
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: in and we saw another bear. Well, we already had
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: Randall's bear in the boat. And I'm wearing waiters and
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: I stalk a bear and I'm bow hunting. I stalk
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: a bear along the edge, along the edge, trying to
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: go to a bear, and everything was good until I
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: got to a big rock that jetted out into the
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: water where it was real deep out on the edge
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: of the rock, and so I couldn't get around it
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: with my waiters without you know, getting way over them.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: And so the waiters are good to a point, like
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: most of the time a waiter would get you. And
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: the thing about and this is if you're trying to
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: get within bow range of these bears, you're not walking
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: on soft ground.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: You're walking on rocks.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: And it's loud in barnacles.
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: Barnacles muscles very loud. So if you have waiters or
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: in you know, a wetsuit. The water is silent. There
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: was a bear the first day. That bear was feeding
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: on muscles and I was in the water with my waiters.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Can I interject from here, because it is the detail
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: on express It's a steep bank and trees will fall
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: over and will fall into the ocean and muscles blue muscles,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: which I'll point out as a circumpolar species, meaning there's
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a band of latitude. There's a latitude band and that
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: the blue muscle, same species occurs all the way around
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the globe. So when you go into a restaurant and
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: order muscles, that's what we're talking about. But they they
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: attached to pretty much anything. There's a tree that fell
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: over into the ocean and its limbs over the years
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: have become seeded with muscles. At high tide. At high
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: tide the tide goes out, we watch a bear come
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: under the tree and it's like he's pulling apples out
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: of a tree, but he's feeding on muscles over his head,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: draped off tree limbs. Very cool.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Two different times Randall's bear was doing that when we
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: hit the beach, two different times.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Very These these bears are crunching these muscles.
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: Muscles, Yeah, they're they're like crunching them like acorns.
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: And they'll just sit down acres acrens.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: That'd be a good show.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: They'll hunker down, just the lay on the beach and
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: just eat all the muscles around them.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: So, okay, I got a quick question about the South.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Seems relevant, totally unrelevant. I just noticed in the South,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: you guys get two syllables out of the word hen.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: Hen him.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: They get two syllables out on a bunch of bears.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: Hen. I don't know if I do that or not.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: Some people do now, Ben, Ben and Ben.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, never mind the bears.
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: So the bears are feeding on these rocky outcroppings, and
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of little channels, and we decided with
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: the wet suit, you would be uninhibited in the water.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: And we felt like that you we one thing that
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: we thought.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I got to come clean about. To go on though, Well,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: go ahead. My case scenario had a lot to do
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: with rifle hunting, in that you can't shoot from a boat,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: and the big boys don't like the sound of motors.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: They learn what a motor sounds like, they don't like it.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Of course, there's a point at which you bear don't
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: want to hear outboard. My you use case scenario was
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: different than yours. Mine was how to extremely quietly get
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: to a point or island or whatever. How to extremely
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: quietly get to something where you could shoot from a
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: ways off. I wasn't picturing ass getting in there and
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: shaking hands with them like you were doing. Oh really,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: what you thought I was going to get to the land? Stop?
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: No?
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: No, My original concept was wasn't shaking hands with them.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: My original thing was just getting You could just slip
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: out of your boat instead of trying to beat your boat, right,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you could anchor and just slip out of your boat. Yeah, yeah, right.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't like like following them in.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: A wetsuit like you were doing. Yeah.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about that so much as I was thinking, like, man,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: if I could get to that little point, all, yeah,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: do that is, wait for him to get clear one
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: hundred yards, two hundred yards whatever the hell?
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: It wasn't quite like how you put it to use,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: like you were putting the use like up close and personal.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but go on.
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: Well, it ended up being incredibly effective, and the wet
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: suit thing was kind of interesting for me. This first
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: time I've had a wet suit and put it on,
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: and I was uncertain how cold this water would be,
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: how difficult it would be.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: The first time you.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Put that wetsuit on, you had a slight panic.
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: Oh, man, no doubt I did. I got this wet
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: suit and I was sent this lubrication, which was a
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: powdered lubrication, and I thought I didn't read the instructions
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: on it. I thought it was like talcum powder. Like, Okay,
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: you put this wetsuit on with.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: This dry how would you not? It was dumb, man.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: There's no excuse a thing I'd find Like you're here,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: we go just at it seems like you're just ambivalence
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: to directions. I'm guilty. I'm guilty, man, I'm guilty. I'm
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: just the fact you'd get a powder you've never seen
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: before and put it on your body. How do you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: use it?
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: What it is?
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Well, Clay gets a prescription from the drug store. He
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: probably takes the paper and just throws it out. Don't
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: tell me how to take this medicine out. I'm guilty.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I'm jake this medicine. How I please and when I please?
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: And so I'm putting this wetsuit.
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: On and I get it over my head and I'm like, man,
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: this is hard. And I finally get both my arms
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: in it and I got my head is choking me
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: to death, and I literally start to have a panic
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: attack because I can't get it off, and I call
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: my wife and I'm like, I'm like pulling it out
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: for my neck, and I say, when I go down
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: like trying to get under it, just pull it off
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: my back as hard as I was, literally like my
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: heart was pounded.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: She thought I was going to pass out.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: It was bad, and I was slightly and I didn't
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: have time to it was like the day before we came,
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: you know, and so I didn't put it on until
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: the first day. And actually that first day when it
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: was choking up on me, even while we were in
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: the boat, I was it made me like physically nervous
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: having that thing on.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of brought you back to you, Yeah,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: I was like pulling it down and I actually was like, man,
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: I wonder if I can do this or not. And
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: then finally, after a while, you just get used to it.
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: The wet suit was an incredible way to get get
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: close to these bears. And we had multiple wet suit stalks.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: So what happens is you see a bear from a
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: long ways away and then you bowte in and get
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: to a place where they can't see you, get out
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: of the boat, and then and me and dirt. Dirt
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: was when they people would be able to see this.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: At some point.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: He was filling with an underwater camera and a GoPro
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: and some stuff, and we would we would swim, usually
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: staying close to the shore and try to come in
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: down wind to the bear, which we thought that being
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: under almost underwater would would cover our sin.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: We had bears smell us if you did mask and
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: snorkel not gonna smell you, but don't smell your breath.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's all they were smelling anyway. And
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: you put some tic TACs down that snorkel.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: Bears love tic tacks.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: No, So I mean, do you want me to tell
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: when we finally killed the bear?
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Sure?
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like I want to add more color in here,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: but no, no, let's go.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I thought that when when I first heard you were
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: going to have a wet suit, a boogie board with
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: your bow on it in salt water. You've never been
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: in a wet suit. You're from Arkansas. I was like, yeah, that.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Seth had the best observation. We were talking about I'm
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: wrong how bears comprehend stuff, and he said, the last
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: thing they'll be thinking, is it some hillbilly mark. That
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: is the last thing.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: They're like, maybe some yuppie from California not thinking this. Yes,
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: there were a lot of There were a lot of variables,
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: the worst cases of California.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of variables.
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: But these bears, I knew from Steve's observations of being
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: in the water with him that they were gonna be
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: pretty much oblivious to things coming from the water. And
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: that's like deep biology, that there's just not danger on
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: the water. They hear a sound on the shore, they
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: hear a rock pop on the shore, they're gonna be gone.
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: They're going to be alert. But from the water, we
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: knew that they weren't going to be that alert. And
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: there literally are seals swimming around all over the place,
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: and here we are in these black wet suits, camo wetsuits,
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: you know, with stuff pulled up over our head. We
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: look like seals. But you guys needed to do I
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: think that.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Like a little face paint, oh, might have made a
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: big difference. It is because the white face comes very pronounced,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: a little grease on your face. You might even look
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: like totally you might have got it. We we I
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: tell you. I saw where a black bear killed a
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: seal here.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they when the salmon are in. This is
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: quite a ways out from here, but when the salmon
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: are in, the seals will go right up in the creeks.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: And my theory is some bear standing there sleeping in
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the grass whatever. And also it's like, you gotta be
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: kidding me, that's a seal and he had skinned that seal.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: It was just the seals hide. Wow, he emptied it
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: out like a sack.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Didn't like dine.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: I was envisioning a bear like trying to get in
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: the water. You know, you think of all the scenarios.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: I just felt like you could get away from a
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: bear in the water. I don't think they're that agile
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: in the water.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: They don't hesitate to swim. Man.
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: Two different times when we were out in a channel,
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: we were in this like cluster of islands and two
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: kind of peninsulas that came together, and so there's like
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: a braid of channels. Two different times we were in
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: the water with a bear that was swimming across the channel.
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: You know, a couple, you know, two hundred yards from us,
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: but they looked like a beaver from water level. Looked
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: like a beaver going across the water, and then it'd
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: get out and it'd be this bear.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, So.
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: When we finally I think we've covered all the bases
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: here of why we were doing it.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Scent sound getting close.
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: I mean I had shots at thirty and forty yards
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: all day stalking on the land, and that's a good shot.
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, a guy that's pretty decent with the bow
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: can take that shot. But I've also bow hundred enough
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: to know that thirty plus yards with a bow on
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: any animal, maybe other than an elk that has a
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: kills on the size of a beach ball, there's just
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: a lot that can happen, and I.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Like to get inside. I want to be I wanted
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: to be twenty yards.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: From a bear. I think it's important to note here
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: you want to put a kill shot on those things
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: because if they go up into that thick, wet, nasty stuff.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: It is the worst stuff in the world to try
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: to blood trail on. Yeah, it's just moss. Moss, not
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: like a forest floor of like fallen leaves.
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: It's it's heavily vegetated moss that doesn't show blood good.
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And depending on where the tide's at, they have
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: like ten yards and then they're just disappeared.
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, So I didn't want to take a marginal shot.
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: I had some shots at other bears at forty ish
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: without the wet suit, and I didn't. I just was like, man,
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: I don't want to take it. And h and again
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: I can hit a target all day at forty. But
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: the here's my tide, my tide story. I don't even
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: think I told you this. Dirt and I were on
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: a small island with a channel that at low tide
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: was probably forty yards wide.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: To get to the main part of land.
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: And we see this bear like two hundred yards away
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: on the shore from our island, and we're gonna swim
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: this channel, this forty yard channel as the tide's coming out,
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: it's starting to get low tide, and the wind's blowing
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: pretty good, and we don't have flippers on because we've
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: decided that we want to be more mote. We've got
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: crocs over the feet of our wet suit and no snorkel,
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: no goggles or anything, and I'm pulling the.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: Boogie board and.
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: We dive off this kind of like deep front, like
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: there's not a bottom, like you pretty much just jump
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: off the edge of a rock almost into water you
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: can't touch in and man, I got about four you know,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: just doggy paddle strokes out there, and it kind of
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: starts taking you like out to sea.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it felt like.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: It really wasn't that dramatic, But to me, I was
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: very cognizant that I am not going in the direction
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: I'm swimming, and I thought, dang, this isn't gonna be cool.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: But it's like a full on river basically.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: But by the time that little section was short though,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: it was like ten yards. And then once I got
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: out in the middle, it kind of calmed down and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: I could actually swim the direction I was wanting to go,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: but the bear was two hundred yards away around the corner.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: We get out into the middle of the channel dirt
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: and I are just like floating, just like bobbing, and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: here comes the bear. We didn't know it was going
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: to come our way. It comes around the corner and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: we're in clear view of this bear on the shore
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: and it never even looks at us.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: So why you need a snorkel mask though too.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: The wind's good though, and but now we float down
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: and just kind of slow swim watching the bear. I mean,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: it's like within bow range of us now, and there's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: just it was a perfect scenario because there was a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: rock about half as big as a car that was
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: right on the edge. I get in behind that rock
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: and I didn't even have my release on yet. Untie
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: the bow, Untie the haystring, put my put my release on,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: and the bear was so close. I didn't even use
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: my rangefinder. I didn't take it. I had a rangefinder
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: clipped onto the hay string. And man, if there's ever
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: a Vortex commercial, it's this.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: I was using the Vortex rangefinder that more than once.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: I saw it bobbing from the end of that boogie
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: board down in the salt water.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: It looked like a halibit jig bouncing.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Hanging off that bailer twine.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I mean, and I would scoop it up
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: and I would range to see.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: If it still works.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: She still works, and I just put it back on
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 6: that boogie board and I'm serious it works today. I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: checked it last night before I put it up, like, yeah,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: she works. And anyway, I didn't even take the range finder,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: got the bow and then we ducked back into the
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: water to about chest deep water. It kind of bent
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: down and just started going towards the bear, and the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: bear was kind of in a cluster of rocks. I
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: estimated I was twelve yards from the bear and I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: stood up and all I had to do was being
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: water deep enough so that a full drawed my bottom
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: cam didn't slap the water, you know, yep. So I
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: I just stood up and the winds in my face.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: The bear never sees us, and I'm in you know,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: about five deep waste deep water and shoot the bear.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: Get a great shot the bear. You'll see it on
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: the video. The bear jumps like a marlin coming out
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: of the water.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: For real.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: The entry hole was on the was on the right
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: side of the bear, and the bear spun so fast
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: that I watched the arrow exit.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Like almost towards me.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: And then the bear runs maximum of fifteen yards and
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: rolls down to the edge of the water, and it
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: wasn't a big bear. It was just you know, it
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: was just a bear that did it, did things right.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: I really feel like you could probably target a big
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: bear and do good if you if I just wanted
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: like proof of concept, and.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: There Randall got a big old boar.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah he did.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, this is Steve's idea one hundred percent.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Well I had.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm mostly joking. I mean I I my
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: idea up to the point that I never did.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: It well, But I told, I told, it's more like,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: you know what a fella could do. This is it
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: was a It was a perfect merger because I would
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 6: have never had even the thought cross my mind because
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: I didn't have the spear fishing tool skill set, Like
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: I would have never gone out on my own and
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: got a wet suit and drew a pow tag.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: You never dreamed of getting in that water.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't have known that you could have gotten
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: that water and not been eaten by a killer whale
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: like I. But so your your confidence in the wet suit,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: and and then just me loving bear hunting and just
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: wanting to do something different.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: It was kind of like a perfect merger well, hunting
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: c cucumbers in wet suits. You know, you're working all
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: the edges, and you know, I mean, so you learn
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: just how nicely you can get along and how like
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you know, just how you're not thinking about stealth, but
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: just how unbelievably stealthy it is.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: It is just to be down in the water working
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: along the edge.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know if a past experience, the way
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: in which uh, stuff floating just isn't as of a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: high concern. They're they're just not quiet. Stuff floating is
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: not as alarming to them as is other stuff. Now
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: I say that, and just to really quickly touch on it,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: we we spooked Randalls bear.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: Uh approaching it. No motor running, yep, but yeah.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: It was fid we got it was wide open and
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: it was only one what did I say, it was
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: one ninety It spooked one hundred ninety.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: Yards, Yeah, something like that, and we were in the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: canoe paddling.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Towards it, and at that point I knew we desperately
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: wanted to get it.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we we we spotted him from the skiff
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: out in the middle of the channel, and we're curious
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: enough to want to get a better look at him,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: and ye.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: See, I can't tell what I'm looking at tom close. Yeah, well,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and he was tough.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: When we got about halfway from the skiff to the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: to the shore, and he was he had kind of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: moved so he was sitting on his haunches and looked
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: up at us, and it was like, right, then, that's
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: a bear that we're really sit in.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: I was looking at one.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I was looking at one one time, and I'm
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: still like looking at it, trying to assess. And it
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: was enough that I wanted to look at it more.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: But I hadn't said shoot in a friend of mine
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: shot and it wasn't a big one.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: He got mad at me.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: But I was like, I never said shoot, I'm still looking.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: In fact, when they're going off about deaf and meeks,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: that wasn't prepared for it. But it's like, yeah, I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: gotta look at him well, and we I mean I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: got to look at him.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: From a couple hundred yards away as well.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 7: Like you know, the first night for a while we
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: saw three.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: That all.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: You know, each one of those I couldn't have said
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 7: one way or the other.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: I got it.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in a boat moving around yeah, you're.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, even even with your binoculars up, you know,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 7: it's so hard to get a clear picture of him.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: And they're moving until they sit down. And they all
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: look pretty big when they're sitting there, squatted over eating muscles,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: you know, just because of the way that their body
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: arranges itself. But when that one, he kind of turned
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: his head and looked straight at us, and.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Then I can see the configuration of its.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 7: Ear, its ears stickings. I was, I turned around the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: canoe and we're both nodding at each other.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like one And people say, this isn't that. I
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: don't around here, I don't around here. I find this
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: to be true. Ears off to the side of the head,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: the ears that looks small, peeled off to the side
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: of the head is a big bear. Yeah, yous look
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: pointy on top of the head is not.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: And let me I gotta say what I want to
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: say something about that, because that's the thing that people
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: in general say about bears across North America. It's the ears.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: And you're one hundred percent right. I mean here and
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: in a lot of places that is one hundred percent true.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: But where I hunt in in the South, in Arkansas,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: and Oklahoma. The biggest bear I've ever killed my life
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: had five inches of ear sticking off the top of
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: his head.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: I mean straight off the top. I mean, it's just
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: a difference. I don't Yeah, I'm not saying it's always true.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: But if all the things people are looking for, of
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: all the things you're looking at, it winds up being, uh,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: it's an easy one. And then the other thing is
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: like that little triangle. Like if you go make a lot,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: make a triangle where the top what do you call
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: the parts of a triangle? The top line of the
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: triangle is a line from base the ear to base
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: the ear, and then the point of that triangle is
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: the end of its nose. You want where it's not
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: pizza shaped. If that triangle is pizza shaped, it's small.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: If that triangle winds up being what's kind of over
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: all the parts and sides equilateral, all the sides are
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: the same. If it's that kind of triangle, it's probably big. Yeah,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: that's that's a good Anyways, he looked at us, and
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, god dah when he got it and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: ran off. But one in I don't know what percent
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: we got out to the beach, Randall had the Phelps
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: predator called the fahn, and we talked about that Phelps
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: call that one. This is president.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: He's got several. He's got a he's got a cub
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: in distress.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: Call.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: That's the one.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: I have predator cub distress. Yeah, and then maybe a
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: fawn jack.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I think, no, no, once you have the cub distress,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's the fawn.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: The fawn. Yeah, either way. One in Well, let me
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: tell the story.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: One time I was looking at a black brown and
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: grass flat and it vanished somewhere out in the grass flat,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: or I thought went in the way.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: I couldn't find it.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I knew it was on a grass flat. I get
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: to the grass flat, bears not there. I guess set
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: up where I got a good commanding view, and I
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: start weighling on the fawn distress. To my surprise, out
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: of the woods comes a black tail dough out of
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: the chimber across. He comes across the whole grass flat,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: gets up to me, stomping, mad blowing, all pissed off,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: and goes back and I'm like, well, that amount of
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: ruckus absolutely would have lured the bear in if he
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: was here. I stand up and move forward. And that
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: thing is right in front of me, still feeding on grass,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: and a little cut didn't care me blowing that call,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: the dope coming out of the woods, running around all
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: pissed off, and that bear never stopped feeding on grass.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: That's how little it cared. And then the next one
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: will try to get in the boat with you. Yeah,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's like one in ten, two and ten.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not one and two.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: No, it ain't one and three. No, well at it
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: ain't one.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: It's like some number really care yea, and some number
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: don't care.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: And at that point we couldn't see the bear. We
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 7: didn't have anything to lose.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: And it's smoked it.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he smooked it visually, not smell had the window.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: No, he was looking over he kept glancing back over
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 7: his shoulders. Sam a couple quick steps up and just
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: disappeared into the trees.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: And and meanwhile we got some folks in the boats
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: watching all of this, myself, Clay, Sam, who else, Chris
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: or something or no, you guys are. But I was like, there,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: I saw the bear spook and I even said, I
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: was like, that thing's not coming back. Little did I know,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: little did I know you guys had that call.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: It was awesome from our v We were quarter mile away,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: basically out in the middle of this this inlet, and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: I got my glass up and I think it's a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: done deal, and you are about to come.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Back, and I hear the squall and I'm like, oh,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: they're predatorcaling.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: And man, that bear was. We could see this whole
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: cross section of this thing shoreline, you know, y'all bank
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: the short line, and where the bear went in the woods.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: And he went in the woods.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: Probably twenty five thirty yards and probably was just sitting
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: there because very quickly after you started blowing, I saw
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: black moving through the woods, coming towards you.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 7: And the bow of our canoe was tucked up against
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: this hump of rock. So I got out of the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 7: canoe and I'm kind of sitting there holding it. Steve's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 7: in the canoe blowing on the call, and I'm I've
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: got like one foot on shore and one in the water,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: just kind of crouched down looking down the beach, waiting
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: to see this thing pop out of the trees, and uh,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 7: little you know, and all of a sudden, I'm sitting
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: there and I can hear Steve get excited, and I
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: hear him saying down the beach, down the beach. In reality,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: he's saying in your face, in your face, which.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Isn't that much more discripsive was looking at his twelve
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: o'clock down the beach, and at is nine o'clock there's
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: a bear like standing there ere.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 7: It was just out of my peripheral and I'm I'm
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 7: kind of between the canoe and this hump of rock,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 7: and so Steve has another twelve feet or so of
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 7: or ten feet of perspective on the whole thing, and
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: I'm looking down and I don't see the bear. I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: bring up my binoculars quick. I put him down, and
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  Speaker 7: I look over my shoulder over my right shoulder to
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  Speaker 7: see where Steve's looking at. And I look over my
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  Speaker 7: right shoulder and I see his head craned left, and
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  Speaker 7: so I spin around, and I mean, I could not
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  Speaker 7: see that thing until I turned and have my chin
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  Speaker 7: over my left shoulder.
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  Speaker 3: And this spaar is on top of you.
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  Speaker 7: It's yeah, he's sitting right, I mean he's sitting over me.
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  Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, he's he's like ten feet above you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like.
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  Speaker 7: Ten feet above me, just peering over the rock. He's
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: got this real you know, I can see from his
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: chest from his chest up, he's looking over the rock.
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  Speaker 7: And uh, it happened real quick, but I got this.
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  Speaker 7: I saw him for you know, a second or two
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: for it to register, and and that was like the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 7: limits of his patients with this whole scenario. So he
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 7: hops back off the rock, and he turns and takes
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 7: a step to the right, and then he zags back
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: to the left. And at that point I shot him.
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  Speaker 6: I thought it was key, like when he was running away,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: you were calling and he made him stop.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and he didn't go. Yeah, he paused for just
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  Speaker 7: a second. I mean he didn't. It's not like he
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  Speaker 7: turned around and was just you know, him his way.
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  Speaker 1: When he ran out there another fifteen yards.
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  Speaker 7: He yeah, he paused and turned around and stopped. And
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: that's when I shot him. And uh saw him kind
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 7: of over the next rock, and I followed him around
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 7: and he was just laying there.
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  Speaker 3: That was fun to watch from a boat.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was stressful.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: We were just like, why isn't he shooting? It looked
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: like the bear was like an inch from you.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 7: Oh man, I mean he was he was.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: It felt like he was an inch from us. I was.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 7: I was like at that point, it wasn't like he was,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: you know, in front of us. I was between him
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 7: and the boat. I was between him and the canoe.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: He came out.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: He popped out like right over our shoulders.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: He was close enough where I was zoomed into two
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: hundred mills on my on my lens, and I like
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: same thing. I was looking down the beach and all
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: of a sudden, like I looked to my left and
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: he's like right there, and like paying the camera over
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: quick and could not find him in the view finder.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just because he was so close. I was too
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: zoomed in, said.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be the bearer of bad news.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: But there was about a three four inch warpneck connor tip.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'll.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: Sitting here the other night looking at that.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: That's probably high on his priority list.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: There's Yeah, there's a long list.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Well, you'll be able to at some point or not.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: You'll you'll be able to see all this we got,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: we got, we got good.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: It would be good. It'll be a good video.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a good Oh, it's.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Gonna be a good show, good episode, anything else, We're
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, plans coming in here.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Tell them to listen to my Davy Crockett series on
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Bear Grease. Uh yeah, go ahead, that's it.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: He's not a Davy Crockett fan. We've got a great
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: series on Davy Crockett. You go, you learn a lot
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: about David Crockett.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: But first listen to Clays. But if you if you
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: don't mind, first listening to Clay's thing about the education
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Little Tree. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: We did a series on Asa Carter and the education
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: a book called Education of a Little Tree. Lots of
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: twists and turns, dark twist and turn dark twisting turns.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: And then if you still into it, listen to Crockett. Yeah, Crockett, whatever, Crockett.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you included why he didn't like Taters.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Oh it's in there, because that is the most harrowing
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Tater story that about turned me off to Taters.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, do you want to tell it?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, oh yeah, it is age.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: I would imagine that this audio series, aside from a
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: just listening to a book on tape about Crockett, would
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: probably be the most comprehensive podcast series on Crockett.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be four parts. Did you
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: include how he was born on a mountaintop in Tennessee,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Green Ed State and Land of the Free?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we talk about it. We talk about how it's
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: not true you've been duped, Seth.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: Disney's been lying to your old damn life.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Seth. Well, I'm glad that you set the record straight.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of myth around a little Crockett
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: and Boone too.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well go listen and get get the truth. That's all.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Get tune in the Crockett. And while while you're while
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: you're tuning in the crocket, Uh, go order Catch Carefish
• 1:18:05
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• 1:18:11
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• 1:18:16
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• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: Tell it is June. Order it O.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 9: Rid on on the sealed gray shine like silver in
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 9: the sun, right right on alone, sweetheart.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 10: We done beat this dawn, of course, today taking a
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 10: new drive, unbeat this damned horsiday. So take a new
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 10: one and ride on.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: M HM.