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- 0:25Speaker 1: a look at the European Union and the risks for
- 0:28Speaker 1: your portfolio. Are their models for other countries leaving the
- 0:32Speaker 1: European Union and what that would do to your money?
- 0:34Speaker 1: We'll find out more. We're gonna We're gonna be speaking
- 0:36Speaker 1: with Sam Juan. He's founder and managing director of Global
- 0:40Speaker 1: Risk Management Advisors PAM. I wonder what he'll have to
- 0:42Speaker 1: say about Bill Gross of Jane's Capital Management, saying that
- 0:44Speaker 1: he is sniffing out some rather bear Stearns kind of
- 0:48Speaker 1: uh vibe from what's happening UK property market. That could
- 0:52Speaker 1: be a risk. Let's go to Katherine Cadry. Now, no
- 0:54Speaker 1: risk there, she's in the Bloomberg news room with the
- 0:56Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business Flash. Thank you. Kathleen was stock selled down
- 0:59Speaker 1: to their games after a minute of last month's federal
- 1:01Speaker 1: Reserve Policy meeting, so almost all officials present indicated May's
- 1:05Speaker 1: weak employment report added to economic uncertainty. Bloomberg has been
- 1:08Speaker 1: adel Judas has the details of those f o MC minutes.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Central bankers aired on the side of portion and holding
- 1:15Speaker 1: their benchmark interest rate steady. The labor market slowdown was
- 1:18Speaker 1: chief among their concerns make job growth with the weakest
- 1:21Speaker 1: in almost six years. FED officials also sought prudent to
- 1:25Speaker 1: wait for the results of Britain's EU referendum, which at
- 1:28Speaker 1: the time was too close to call. The Fence Policy
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- 2:00Speaker 1: Industrial LeVert is up forty six points a quarter percent,
- 2:04Speaker 1: trading at seventeen thousand, eight hundred eighty six. SMP five
- 2:07Speaker 1: funded up seven points a third of a percent at
- 2:09Speaker 1: two thousand ninety five and as dat is up twenty
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- 2:22Speaker 1: eight dollar seventy cents. Announced of thirteen sixty seven fifty
- 2:26Speaker 1: ten year treasury holding study with the yield of one
- 2:28Speaker 1: point three seven percent. Among today's How Business stories, two
- 2:32Speaker 1: more UK property funds have halted withdrawals in the wake
- 2:35Speaker 1: of Britain's decision to leave the European Union. That brings
- 2:38Speaker 1: a total number to five. And now let's get enough
- 2:41Speaker 1: date of some of the other stories were following today
- 2:43Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Thank you, Catherine from the Bloomberg Newsroom.
- 2:47Speaker 1: I'm Jill Schneider. HOW speaker Paul Ryan says a lot
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- 3:42Speaker 1: Corker said, although he knows it would not be a
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- 4:31Speaker 1: thank you. Now, let's get an update of those equity
- 4:33Speaker 1: benchmarks down. Industrial leverage up forty eight points to seventeen thousand,
- 4:36Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty nine. SMP five founded up seven points
- 4:39Speaker 1: in two thousand ninety five, nastack higher by twenty eight
- 4:42Speaker 1: points at eight fifty. And that's a Bloomberg business flash
- 4:47Speaker 1: you're listening to taking start with Kathleen Hays and Pim
- 4:50Speaker 1: Fox on Bloomberg Radio. The pounds sterling plunges further, trading
- 4:55Speaker 1: at one nine thirty six versus the US dollar, Japan's
- 4:59Speaker 1: twenty year bond deal turns negative, and more UK property
- 5:02Speaker 1: funds suspend trading. These are all risks that you need
- 5:05Speaker 1: to take into consideration when managing money. Samuel Juan is
- 5:10Speaker 1: the founder and the managing director of Global Risk Management Advisors.
- 5:14Speaker 1: He joins us now. Sam Juan, thanks very much for
- 5:17Speaker 1: coming in and what if you could tell people what
- 5:19Speaker 1: is Global Risk Management Advisors and what do you actually
- 5:23Speaker 1: do who some of your customers? UM? Well, I started
- 5:26Speaker 1: the firm UM right on the heels of the financial
- 5:30Speaker 1: crisis to help both asset managers and institutional investors with
- 5:36Speaker 1: investment risk management. And about a third of our work
- 5:39Speaker 1: is what some people who think of risk management. It
- 5:43Speaker 1: is very quantitative, it is very geeky, and we try
- 5:46Speaker 1: to use very sophisticated modeling and math to figure out
- 5:49Speaker 1: what the risks are in your portfolio and what the
- 5:52Speaker 1: potential losses are. But two thirds of the majority of
- 5:56Speaker 1: the work that we do is really around good government,
- 6:00Speaker 1: good processes, good controls, good strategy, because that's really at
- 6:05Speaker 1: the end of the day. But what Trump's and one
- 6:08Speaker 1: is the most important thing in terms of UH descending
- 6:11Speaker 1: order of what institutions do. And as I mentioned, we
- 6:15Speaker 1: work with UH institutional investors such as endowments and pensions foundations,
- 6:20Speaker 1: and we work with asset managers heavy concentration of alternative
- 6:24Speaker 1: managers and imagine the phone ringing off the hook because
- 6:26Speaker 1: people are wondering, Okay, bregsit, what do I stay away from?
- 6:30Speaker 1: Where is there something I should be getting rid of
- 6:32Speaker 1: quickly that I didn't already get rid of before the vote,
- 6:35Speaker 1: and or is there something I should be getting ready
- 6:38Speaker 1: to leap in and buy? Where do you start with
- 6:40Speaker 1: that analysis? Uh? We think it's important. So if we
- 6:44Speaker 1: take an institutional industrial like a pension or a foundation
- 6:48Speaker 1: or endowment, UM, those institutions are fortunate that they can
- 6:52Speaker 1: take a relatively longer term view, and so we think
- 6:56Speaker 1: it's very important that they stick to a plan and
- 6:59Speaker 1: that plan and starts with their investment policy statement and
- 7:02Speaker 1: the risk policy guidelines. We think it does make sense
- 7:06Speaker 1: to assess what impact the portfolio has had near term
- 7:11Speaker 1: from Brexit as well as what it may look medium
- 7:14Speaker 1: term and long term to to, you know, figure out
- 7:17Speaker 1: whether there should be any strategical, strategic or tactical changes
- 7:21Speaker 1: they need to make. One thing we've been advising investors,
- 7:25Speaker 1: and this applies to just retailer John Q Public as
- 7:28Speaker 1: well is UM We caution that people should not overreact,
- 7:33Speaker 1: especially given the fact that two thousand eight is still
- 7:36Speaker 1: fresh on many people's minds, and that is we think
- 7:41Speaker 1: a very important lesson learned. SAM. If there is a
- 7:45Speaker 1: money manager who blames poor performance on Brexit, should you
- 7:50Speaker 1: go looking for another money manager? Are there ways to
- 7:52Speaker 1: have mitigated the risk? UM. If you look at the
- 7:57Speaker 1: first few days following Brittain Britain's decision to exit the EU, UH,
- 8:03Speaker 1: and you look at the proverbial winners and losers, the
- 8:06Speaker 1: majority of the people were, whether the professional or amateur
- 8:10Speaker 1: investor losers, meaning that when all the markets are down,
- 8:14Speaker 1: most people are long the market and so there's no
- 8:17Speaker 1: place for cover. The exception to that where people, of
- 8:20Speaker 1: course who UH might have been UM long some of
- 8:23Speaker 1: the flight to safety kind of things such as US
- 8:27Speaker 1: or Japanese bonds or speculative investments such as gold UM,
- 8:33Speaker 1: but there are very very few winners who anticipated UM Brexit.
- 8:39Speaker 1: We think in terms of assessing UM, you know your investments,
- 8:43Speaker 1: it would be foolish to look at it just through
- 8:45Speaker 1: the filter of Brexit. Certainly, if your investments are eurocentric UM,
- 8:50Speaker 1: that should give you pause to UH look for opportunities
- 8:55Speaker 1: to diminish that concentration risk and diversify. But other than that,
- 8:58Speaker 1: we think that people should um uh, you know, be
- 9:04Speaker 1: vigilant about assessing their portfolio, watching it and looking at
- 9:08Speaker 1: the and trying to understand the broader economic and political implications.
- 9:12Speaker 1: And I think that's something that is the forest from
- 9:14Speaker 1: the trees that gets lost because there's so people, so
- 9:17Speaker 1: many people get focused on what's going up and what's
- 9:20Speaker 1: going down? Okay, so what are what is? What is
- 9:23Speaker 1: the broader global implication and what does it mean for portfolios?
- 9:27Speaker 1: As you've in the time you've spent last couple of
- 9:29Speaker 1: weeks looking at the Briggs that vote, what are what
- 9:31Speaker 1: a couple of the key themes that emerge with people
- 9:33Speaker 1: to be aware of the key themes to look at.
- 9:36Speaker 1: As an example, is um is um um the UK's
- 9:42Speaker 1: separation with the EU? What ramifications is that going to
- 9:45Speaker 1: have trade within the eurozone? Um? What is that going
- 9:49Speaker 1: to do for to the extent that investors are invested
- 9:52Speaker 1: in companies that are within the foot see one hundred,
- 9:55Speaker 1: what are the implications? So as an example, one of
- 9:58Speaker 1: the questions I've imposed in the last couple of days is,
- 10:01Speaker 1: given brexit, how can you explain the foots on being
- 10:05Speaker 1: up so that's a you know, a paradox, and in
- 10:09Speaker 1: the near term our answer to that is as follows.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Number one, UM, you know, some of it is just
- 10:15Speaker 1: relief from the fact that UM, the UK has not
- 10:19Speaker 1: exercised Article fifty yet. Secondly, if you look at the
- 10:23Speaker 1: composition of the companies within the foots you one hundred
- 10:26Speaker 1: more than seventy seven percent of them are multinationals who
- 10:30Speaker 1: garner majority of the revenue outside the UK and as such,
- 10:34Speaker 1: UM they're making money that's worth more UH in local
- 10:39Speaker 1: currency terms the pound. All right, saman want thank you
- 10:43Speaker 1: so much for joining us. His founder and managing director,
- 10:46Speaker 1: Global Risk Management Advisors right here in New York City.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Don't overreact to brexit, step back. Are your investment zero centric?
- 10:54Speaker 1: Maybe you need a broader view. This is Bloomberg coming
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