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SEASON 50 EMERGENCY POD · Making The Merge - Survivor Podcast

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: It's the season fifty emergency pod guys.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, breaking news. No one knew it was coming, well,
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: we all knew it was coming.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: And yeah, we knew exactly what was coming unless we
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: went to Great Links. I tried to live under a
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  Speaker 1: rock this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it didn't help that we kept posting leaked
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  Speaker 2: stuff in the in the group chat. But here's the thing,
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  Speaker 2: and this is, you know, let's just start off high.
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  Speaker 2: What we're gonna be doing here is gonna be breaking
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  Speaker 2: down all of the cast for the season fifty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five years of Survivor. I mean, let's just let's just I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, I'm excited for this because I know how
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: much you're excited for this.
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  Speaker 2: I am so pumped this. When I saw the leaked list,
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: for some reason, I was like blame. But then the
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: second that Jeff revealed them one by one this morning
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  Speaker 2: at nine thirty or eight thirty on CBS Good Morning
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, I was so hyped. Every time he pulled
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: out another name.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, especially like he'd say the name of the season.
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  Speaker 1: When he said Borneo, I was like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I was really hoping it was
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be the man, the myth the legends. I thought
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: it was gonna be our boy from season one. Man, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking Richard, Yeah, yeah, that was the that
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: was old Baton switch Jervas.
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  Speaker 1: I think Jervais has a pocket of fans.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's come back before, and I'm gonna be real
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  Speaker 2: he I think he did a better job when he
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  Speaker 2: came back than he did the first time on Borneo.
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  Speaker 1: It isn't his name Jervis, and we keep getting it wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we called Jervais because one of the owners
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  Speaker 2: of the network. He's only ever watched one season of
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Survivor and it was the first one, and he keeps
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  Speaker 2: calling him Jervaise. Yeah, and he's a big Jervas fan.
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  Speaker 1: I want to start this off by saying I didn't
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  Speaker 1: get the memo that Jeff was gonna be on at
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  Speaker 1: eight thirty. So I got up at six thirty, drank
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  Speaker 1: a coffee, sat down just to watch the news for
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: an hour and a half.
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  Speaker 2: My bad man. So last night before I fell asleep,
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  Speaker 2: I double checked. I was like, what time is it again?
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  Speaker 2: And I looked on Survivor's Instagram story and they had
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  Speaker 2: it on there eight thirty. I was gonna text you
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  Speaker 2: and be like, hey, it's eight thirty. But I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want it to be a thing where I go, hey,
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: just a reminder it's eight thirty, and then we do
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  Speaker 2: that thing that we do to Jonathan where we're like, yeah,
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: we know, where have you been? I thought maybe I misunderstood,
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  Speaker 2: So I had no idea. So I just woke up
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  Speaker 2: and watched the news. It's like an elderly person and
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  Speaker 2: two hours and I just sat there and watched. I
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: was like, what else am I going to do right now?
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  Speaker 2: I'll just listen to Gail and Nate Burleson and whoever
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  Speaker 2: the other guy was. But because of that, I have
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  Speaker 2: this clip.
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  Speaker 3: So what does this mean?
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  Speaker 2: Doctor John Lapuk has what you need to know about
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  Speaker 2: all of this.
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  Speaker 4: Plus there's another of us in that bizarre case of
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  Speaker 4: a crypto investor who allegedly kidnapped and then tortured a
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  Speaker 4: man for weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Very crazy story.
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  Speaker 4: But first, it is seven seventeen, trying to check.
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  Speaker 2: Your local weather.
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  Speaker 1: What crypto kidnapping? Hey, let's talk about the weather.
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  Speaker 2: Now. They tortured him for weeks, All right, let's throw it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see you about that rainy day to day.
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  Speaker 1: Crypto kidnapping and torture. And also that's a crazy story.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, when we come back the season fifty of Survivor,
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  Speaker 2: some might claim that to be weeks of torture.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, I'm so happy it was Gail, though. I strategically
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: hyped up Gail because I knew this is gonna happen.
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: I knew she would be there with Jeff. I saw it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a visionary. You are a visionary. But it was
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  Speaker 2: an accident. I'm taking full credit. If you're a recent
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: listener to our show. We've been talking about this gay
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  Speaker 2: old lady ever since she went to space earlier this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was celebrating somebody in the CBS family
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  Speaker 1: who they showed as for on Survivor going to space.
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  Speaker 2: Heck, yeah, dude, because when we watched Survivor, you're not
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  Speaker 2: everyone's not just watching Survivor. We're all watching pretty much
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  Speaker 2: the same commercials, and so that's a part of our show.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, we've vamped long enough. I'm too excited. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just start jumping in to all of the different casts.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's do it. Let's start with the number
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  Speaker 2: one baby Jenna. Now Jenna previous played on the first
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  Speaker 2: ever season of Survivor twenty five years ago, Borneo, and
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  Speaker 2: she came back for All Stars a few seasons later.
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  Speaker 2: She is forty seven years old, and that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a trend that we're going to see a lot
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  Speaker 2: in this list, a lot of older players. We joked
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  Speaker 2: about doing a Golden Survivor where it's all older contestants.
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  Speaker 2: A majority of these players this season are in their fifties.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, how old you said? Forty seven?
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  Speaker 2: She is forty Seven's not old, No, but I mean
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  Speaker 2: forty seven compared to when she played the first time,
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  Speaker 2: when she was twenty No, yeah, something like twenty. The
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  Speaker 2: first time she played in Bordio, she finished eighth, and
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  Speaker 2: when she played in All Stars, she finished third, which
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  Speaker 2: was a final two season, so she was eliminated right
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  Speaker 2: before the Final two which was Boston Robin Amba. She
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: has a total of fourteen challenge wins. That is not
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  Speaker 2: just individual that is also tribe challenges. So she made
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  Speaker 2: it very far in both seasons she played in. So
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  Speaker 2: her team I can't remember off the top of my head.
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  Speaker 2: I think she was on some winning teams pre Merge
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  Speaker 2: and then you know, post Merge. I don't remember if
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  Speaker 2: she won any challenges individually, but she might have.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember like like a lot of like her
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  Speaker 1: story in Borneo because I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I we would will have to go back and watch
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: the first season at some point, because I really struggle.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing I really remember from that first season
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  Speaker 2: is Richard Hatch and his well Rudy too obviously. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: of course, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's very different, and the challenges and everything.
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  Speaker 1: They don't hold your hand like they do now, Like
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  Speaker 1: you just had to watch and pay attention because Jeff
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  Speaker 1: was not saying anything to you.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff wasn't running around screaming at everybody, which is a
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  Speaker 2: shame because it's the best part of the show. All right.
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  Speaker 2: So after I go through the list, then we can
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  Speaker 2: I want us to talk about like who we think
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  Speaker 2: could possibly be the winner, who you think is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be our number one draft pick from our draft, stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that. But let's just rapid fire through these. Next up.
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  Speaker 2: Colby from season two, Oh Colby, the All American Hero,
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  Speaker 2: as Jeff called him this morning. He played. He has
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  Speaker 2: played three times so far. He played in Australia All
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  Speaker 2: Stars and Heroes Versus Villains. He is fifty one years old.
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  Speaker 2: He finished runner up in Australia very famously, twelfth in
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  Speaker 2: All Stars and fifth in Heroes Versus Villains. He has
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  Speaker 2: twenty six total challenge wins. He is considered the original
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: challenge Beast. And this is just a note from me.
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  Speaker 2: When he played in Heroes Versus Villains, they hyped up
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  Speaker 2: his return for Heroes Versus Villains and he was a
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: challenge flop. He was not able to win many challenges
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  Speaker 2: in Heroes Versus Villains. Everyone like, even, I think was
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: it Ozzy? I think Ozzy was on Heroes Versus Villains
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  Speaker 2: with him, or maybe it was someone else, And they go, no,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't Ozzie. But they go they're like, this is
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  Speaker 2: Colby the challenge Beast. What happened to him? Because he
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: was sucking. So he's fifty one now. If he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: doing so hot Heroes versus Villains challenge wise, I can
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  Speaker 2: only imagine he might not do that great challenge wise
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  Speaker 2: this year or next year.
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  Speaker 1: His confessionals were so stupid, but in an endearing way.
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  Speaker 1: He'd be like, man, I just look out at the ocean.
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  Speaker 1: Life is good.
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  Speaker 2: And then he would win a bunch of challenges yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then he very famously people, I mean a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people thought he should have won that season. One
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  Speaker 2: last thing about Colby before we move on. He hasn't
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  Speaker 2: done good on any season except for Australia. I mean,
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: he came in fifth place in Heroes Versus Villains, but
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: that was because he was a non threat and so
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  Speaker 2: they could afford to take him further into the game.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm very excited he could redeem himself this time.
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  Speaker 1: On All Stars too. I don't remember All Stars.
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  Speaker 2: He finished twelfth okay, yeah, so yeah, pretty early in
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  Speaker 2: the game, but I think that was because he was
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  Speaker 2: seen as such a threat after Australia at that point.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, Boston Robins ran that game anyway. Next up,
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  Speaker 2: we have someone I'm extremely excited for. Stephanie Is coming
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  Speaker 2: back for the fourth time. She played Palau, which was
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  Speaker 2: one of the craziest story arcs of all time, her
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  Speaker 2: and Bobby John making their way through Oh, by the way, guys,
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: spoiler alert, Well, yeah, I think that's maybe we should
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  Speaker 2: put a spoiler alert at the beginning of the episode
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  Speaker 2: or something like that, or we'll just do it right here.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't spoiled too much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna talk about stuff that I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know about. So I'm gonna be learning a lot
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  Speaker 1: in this podcast. Yeah, yeah, because I've seen forty two
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  Speaker 1: through forty eight and then one through fifteen or.
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  Speaker 2: Six, right, so you're missing a big chunk there in
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: the middle, which is where a lot of returning seasons happened.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get educated today, like I've seen Stephanie's
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  Speaker 1: two seasons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Stephanie, she played in Palau where her and
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  Speaker 2: Bobby John famously got picked off one by one, and
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  Speaker 2: then she was in a tribe by herself, the only
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  Speaker 2: time that's ever happened. Then she came back for Guatemala,
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: which was the immediate next season. Her and Bobby John
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  Speaker 2: both came back. She did, they revealed that I lost
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  Speaker 2: my mind. It was awesome. Now Guatemala is another great season.
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  Speaker 2: Then she came back again for Heroes Versus Villains. Stephanie
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  Speaker 2: is forty five years old. She finished seventh in Palau,
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  Speaker 2: so even though she got they got picked off, she
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  Speaker 2: still made it pretty far. Then in Guatemala she was
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  Speaker 2: the runner up, and then in Heroes Versus Villains she
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  Speaker 2: was eliminated second. So she came in nineteenth out of twenty. Wow. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: she has ten total challenge wins. So out of three seasons,
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: she has only won ten challenges. Yeah.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: I mean people talk about disaster tribes. She was on
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: the disaster tribe, yes.
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  Speaker 2: And she was the only one left. And that was
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: what was crazy is they they sent her back to tribal,
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  Speaker 2: like from tribal after eliminating Bobby John. Yeah, by herself
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  Speaker 2: to camp and they were just like, we're gonna keep playing.
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  Speaker 2: Which I think that season is the reason that we
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: get the tribe swap when a tribe gets pretty low. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it was like, it was just so captivating that
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: that story with her Bobby John, Bobby John losing his mind.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: It's fun that Brand's watching that season right now, so
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: he's getting to experience it.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's watching Guatemala right now.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, guys, I think Bobby John is going crazy.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Man, that's an underrated season Guatemala, dude. The location is
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: one of the most memorable for me because it's so
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: different than all the other like beach seasons. Anyway, next up,
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: we have one of the biggest survivor legends of all time,
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  Speaker 2: Sourri Suri played in Panama, Micronesia, Heroes Versus Villains, and
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  Speaker 2: Game Changers, as well as she has been seen on Traders,
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  Speaker 2: She has been seen on Big Brother. She has been
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: seen on a ton of game shows very recently. It
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: seems like maybe she just needed some money. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: be doing the round well.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like her bank account's doing great right now.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: She's she's gonna be on Australian Survivor soon and then
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: she's gonna go straight from that to American Survivor. That's insane.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: That is crazy that she's gonna be playing this summer,
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: or she already played Australia Versus the World. She's on
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  Speaker 2: a plane right now as we speak to go film
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: Survivor fifty. She is fifty four years old.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like physically that that would be really hard for
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  Speaker 1: somebody in their twenties to do Survivor back to back
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Uh. When she first played in Panama, she finished fourth.
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  Speaker 2: When she played in Micronesia, she finished third. When she
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  Speaker 2: did Heroes Versus Villains, she finished seventeenth, and then in
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  Speaker 2: Game Changers she finished sixth. She has twenty two total
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  Speaker 2: challenge wins.
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  Speaker 1: I know some people don't want to see her again
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  Speaker 1: just because she's played so many times. Yeah, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: I've only seen the two serie seasons, so I'm really
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: excited for Sari because she was amazing.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love every time to replace Survivor. I think
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: that where the criticism of like oversaturation is because she
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: was just on Big Brother, she was just on Traders.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: She's gonna be on all show. I think I think
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  Speaker 2: people are just like we. It's what Jeff was saying
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  Speaker 2: when he talked about when other shows like Traders take
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: famous Survivor players where it's like it's not gonna feel
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: special when they come on the show again. And I
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: think that he nails that point. A lot of people
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: will disagree with him on that. I think it's true.
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  Speaker 2: I just you know, it's you haven't watched Traders or
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Big Brother or I think she was on Dealer, o'deal
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  Speaker 2: Island or something like that as well, but like, you
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: haven't watched those, so you haven't you know what I'm saying.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll watch them all and get back to you.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: If I want to see Si. But that being said,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: I am very excited about Serrin. I think I would
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: have rather seen Sandra come back in that place of
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: like Survivor legend who has played a lot, but Surri
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  Speaker 2: is always awesome and always fun to see. Next up,
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  Speaker 2: my favorite Survivor player of all time. I am so pumped.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: This is another person that people are kind of iffy
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  Speaker 2: about seeing yin Azzy Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, he's controversial. I'll say that, Yeah, he is.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like Ozzy is It's like he took somebody
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: out of a pirate movie and put them on Dude.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Ozzy Man, he's his stats. I'll just do his stats
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  Speaker 2: because he played Cook Islands, then Micronesia, South Pacific, and
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: then Game Changers. Ozzie is forty three years old. Isn't
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: that crazy? Yeah? Because I think he was eighteen the
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: first time he played, which was the Race War season
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  Speaker 2: Cook Islands. He finished runner up in Cook Islands, ninth
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  Speaker 2: in Micronesia, fourth in South Pacific, and twelfth in Game Changers.
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  Speaker 2: He has a total of forty three challenge wins in
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: season fifty. He could break fifty challenge wins.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with the tribe ones include how many
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: individual challenges as he won?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have that number? I don't have it in
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  Speaker 2: front of me, but I know that he is tied
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: for the record of most individual immunity challenges won in
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  Speaker 2: a single season, which was which is five. In Cook Islands,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: he was considered a challenge beast. He won so many challenges.
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  Speaker 2: Then in Micronesia he came back and won so many challenges.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just I mean, I'm what I'm not looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to is if forty three year old Ozzie shows
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  Speaker 2: up and isn't as good as Prime Azsie. You know
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be a letdown.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Did Ozzie invent the fake idol?
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: No, that would be was it Yooman or or it
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  Speaker 2: was in Cook Islands I'm pretty sure, or the season
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: right after Cook Islands, South Pacific I think is what
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: that's called. Or no, that's not I don't remember. But no,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: he did not invent the but he has the one
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: of the greatest fake idol plays where he just took
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: a stick.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: It was just a stick, and he bought it and
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: then yeah, then he shows it to Eliza I think
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: it was Eliza, and she's like, I can't believe it.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: He's an idiot. It's just it's a stick, dude. Ozzi's
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite play of all time. He's considered
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: one of the best players to never win, so maybe
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: maybe this is his time. Maybe with age comes the
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: ability to win the game. I would. I mean, he's
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: very controversial outside of the game, I think.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I didn't know that CBS would let
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: him do it after you know, his ventures into other things.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Hey man, I think he's always kept a good relationship
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: with Jeff and CBS. But yeah, his other ventures. But yeah,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: that's how I'll describe it. Ozzy's the one that I'm
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: most excited for, Guys. I mean I'm gonna do I
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: mean realistically, because I know myself and I do this
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: every draft. I'm gonna draft Ozzie first. Oh yeah, for sure.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: He's your favorite and my favorite of all time. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: know I shouldn't draft Serie, but I love SII. She's
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: like I think SuRie is my favorite Survivor player. That's awesome. Yeah,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: that's a great favorite to have Ozzie. If if Ozzy
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: wasn't on this season, I would have really liked to
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: see Malcolm who might be. I mean, he's in tight
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: contention with my number one, my top legend or like
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: a myth.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Because I haven't seen the season So he's just this
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: myth that I hear about all the time Malcolm and Denise.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, Well so he he was like the
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the Ozzy after Ozzy played and then the two of
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: them played on the same season. Anyway, next up another
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: survivor legend. We have the Dragon Slayer coach.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: This is another guy I'm not familiar with who I've
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: heard legends about. So you'll have to educate me.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: If you love Bonu and you love Andy, and you're
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: gonna do I drafted both of them, you're gonna love
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: coach Man. He is a legend. He played on to Toketin's.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Token Chins Token Sheans.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Heroes Versus Villains, and then South Pacific. He is fifty
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: three years old. He finished fifth in Tokitchin's twelfth in
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Heroes Versus Villains, and he was the runner up in
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: South Pacific. He has a total of eighteen Challenge wins.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: But so he's like, he's a big character and that's why, Yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: he like him.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: He's a big character. He calls himself the Dragon Slayer. Yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I've heard a lot about that. He's the kind of
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: guy that, like his confessionals were just off the.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Wall, he plays the instrument. I think he did something
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: with Ben Katzman. I saw Ben promoting a concert that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: he's doing some performance with Coach, so I felt like
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Coach maybe plays something.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Probably, But on his seasons, man, he's just one of
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: those that was like on his first season he was
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: so out there and so weird. They brought him back
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: for Heroes Versus Villains and he doubled down and was
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: even weirder or a villain. He was a villain. I
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Dragon Slayers kind of sounds like a hero dude.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Like he I don't even know how to explain him.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I'll have to pull some clips and show you later
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that I don't have spoilers, but like he'll just do
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: things like like if someone like he'll sit down with
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: someone who'll be like, this is who we're voting tonight
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: because I'm the dragon Slat and I'm going to take
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: out my competition one by one, and then he'll be
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: like doing like taekwondo on the beach and he's just
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: he's just so out there. Man, He's awesome. Yeah, he's
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: like evil Banu. He's actually a very strategic player. I mean,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I mean he was runner up in his third time playing,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: so you know, I'm very excited to see him come back.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Next up, we have someone. Her name's Aubrey. She played
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: on Her first season was Brains Versus bron Versus Beauty,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: which I've seen. Then she comes back for Game Changers,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: which I've seen, and then she comes back a third
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: time an Edge of Extinction, which is my next season
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that I have to watch. When she showed up because
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I've seen the first couple of episodes of Edge of Extinction.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: When she showed up, they talked about her. She's back again.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: What I love Aubrey.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Do you remember in forty six when Q was talking
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to Mariah, Yeah, and she said her favorite player was
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Aubrey and Q, Yes, if somebody's gonna play like Aubrey,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: then like I need them out of here.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: So I did some research. Yeah, And here's the thing
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: about Aubrey. I remember her a little bit in Brains
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Versus bron Versus Beauty. She was on the Brains Tribe.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: She finished runner up. She was the runner up on
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: that season. Then she came back for Game Changers, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: that's where she got like a huge reputation for being
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: an extremely intelligent strategic player. She finished fifth that season,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and then she came back for Edge of Extinction and
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: she was sixteenth, So her last showing was not great.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: She's thirty nine years old, she has twenty total challenge wins.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: She's a super strategic player. I'm excited to see how
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: she's a cutthroat player, and so I'm excited to see
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: a cut real player go up against some new era
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: players like Joe. This season is not gonna be like
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: forty eight. No, I mean you've got I mean just
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the ones that we've talked about so far, Ozzie, Coach, Sorie, Stephanie. Yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: mostly those those are all cut people together.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I just I just get so excited about it, dude.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I'm pumped for this season.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I knew Season fifty would have to be big because
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: it's the fiftieth season of Survivor, but I think I've
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: let the Internet convince me that it was gonna suck.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And so this morning when the cast was revealed, I'm
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: just over the moon, like I'm vibrating today. Next up,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: we have Chrissy, not the one you're thinking Chrissy is talking.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: This is Christy Crazy. We'll be able to use that
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: sound drop for we will that's true, it'll be passed
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: on to a new Chrissy or an old Chrissie. Really,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Chrissy is from Heroes versus Healers Versus Hustlers. That's an
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: interesting season. She's fifty four years old. She was the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: runner up for that season, and she has thirteen total
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: challenge wins. She was the oldest Survivor player to win
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: female to win four individual immunity Challenges in one season
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: at fifty four. No, she's fifty four now, Okay, so
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know how long ago.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she would have been like sixty something now, so
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't have worked.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but I mean if she was, if she
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: was breaking records as the oldest back then she's really
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: If she does some stuff, it's gonna be pretty crazy. Yeah.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't heard too much about her.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she's only played one season before, so
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: this will be her second season. But apparently she she
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: was a big enough fan favorite to come back for
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: fifty So all right, I'm excited. Christy is speaking next up.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm so hyped about this. If it wasn't
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: for Ozzy, this would probably be my number one pick.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, we'll see when we get to the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: actual draft. But guys from David and Goliath, Christian.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Dude, you haven't watched this Nicky. I know about him
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: from because he comes on Rob has a podcast a lot,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: but I've never seen the season.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Dude. I just watched David and Goliath for the first time.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: It's one of the best seasons ever, which is why
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: they brought back three people from that season. Dude, Christian
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: is awesome. He's thirty nine years old. He finished seventh
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and David versus Goliath. He should have won the season
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, but everyone thought so and that's why
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: they voted him out because he was a huge threat.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: He has a total of nine Challenge wins. Dude, I
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: think fan like I think he's one of the biggest
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: fan favorites coming into fifty. Yeah, I'm excited for it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe I should just jump to that season next because
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you you've been raving about it.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Dude, you should, and I would hope maybe all of
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: all of them making the merge hosts. I know realistically
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen, but uh, to just watch the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: seasons that the seven, the season fifty, Yeah, I'll do it. Well,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: that's the question that Yeah, I didn't want to call
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: him out, but him and Kristin I don't think are
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: gonna gonna watch I hope they watched season fifty. Yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: me too, But uh, you guys should definitely like watch
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the seasons that way you know who to draft going
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: in because, guys, this is the first year I suck
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: at drafting players. I suck at drafting players so bad.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: But there is no one on making the merge that
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: knows these old seasons better than me.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: So you think this is your time to shine. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: it sounds like you're gonna want Christian on your team.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna want Christian, I'm gonna want Ozzie, I'm gonna
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: want a lot of these guys. This is gonna be
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the first season since we started doing the draft where
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: like I'm gonna be I'm gonna want all four of
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the players I draft, or five because there's more than
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: eighteen or whatever, Like, there's not gonna be any Oh
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: who's gonna be picked last? Oh we know who's gonna
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: be picked last.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like somebody will fall, but it's gonna be more
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: interesting because everybody is a good prospect pretty much.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: This is dude, this is gonna be the best season
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: of making the Merge yet.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so excited to cover it week by week two.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's gonna the draft is gonna be insane if
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I lose, Like I won the first draft of our
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: podcast era, right, So I take that on as a
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: pretty big achievement. If I can make my next win
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: be the season fifty win, brother, i'd be I'd go
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: down as the goat of making the Merge. I'd shoot
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: right past you.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I need to destroy you. I gotta do
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: some tape study on these people.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I will. I'm gonna be in the lab, Okay, I
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: know you will. Man. Next up, also from David Versus Goliath,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: we have Angelina, huge fan favorite, thirty five years old.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: She was the runner up of David Versus Goliath.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Something about a jacket, right, I hear that a lot.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yes. She has six total Challenge wins. She is known
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: for being like, I don't want to spoil too much
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: of the season, but since you already know about the
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: jacket thing, she's just so outspoken and she doesn't have
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: social cues well like perfect like, So basically, what happens
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: is they blindside someone and then as the person that
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: is blindsided is leaving, she asks if she can have
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: her jacket, and she does stuff like that all season.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I was surprised hearing that she's such a fan favorite
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: because I kind of saw her as a villain. But
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: like at one point, she tries to convince other people
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: on the tribe to for her so that way she
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: can play her idol and do a big psych I'm
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: actually safe tonight, but she wasn't the target, so she
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: tried to like choreograph it so that the jury would
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: think she made a big move. I don't know, She's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: a super interesting player. You need to watch David Versus
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Goliath asap. Next up, Get into It, also from David
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Versus Goliath. The creator of White Lotus, the writer of
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Nacho lebre and School of Rock. Mike White.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the most famous people in the world
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: right now. It feels like this is a big deal
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: getting him on. I haven't even seen the season, like
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I've said, but I know he's a huge deal.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, like he's fifty four years old. He was
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: the he was the other runner up for David Versus Goliath.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: He has nine total Challenge wins. And the thing about
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Mike White, obviously he's famous. He's extremely famous right now
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: because White Lotus. He was extremely famous when he went
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: on the show Nacho Lee Braves School of Rock, like
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: he was a big successful Hollywood screenwriter. I think a
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: lot of people will see a lot of people will think, hey,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Mike White will be eliminated pretty early because everyone's gonna
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: be like, he's the guy that owned the directs White Lotus,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: he created White Lotus. He doesn't need the money. Let's
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: get rid of them guys. His season and David Versus Goliath,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: he that should have been what happened to him. Then
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: everyone knew that he didn't need the money. He was
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the runner up, and so he's Every season we see
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: a player like Mitch where their game or their strategy
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: is not being a threat, staying in the sidelines, not
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: making any big moves so that they end up at
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the end, and most of the time it's like or
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: not most of them. Every time it's like you're just
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: not playing, You're floating to the end. It's not a
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: good strategy. It never works. Is the only player I've
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: ever seen do that strategy? Of not being a threat,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: not being the forefront, playing behind the scenes and it
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: actually work and it and it looks incredible too. So
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: he's an iconic Survivor player as well as being famous screenwriter.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for it. You know, I'm gonna watch White
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Lotus too. It's gonna be part of my tape study.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that either.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Well, uh, there's a lot of like like Angelina, who
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: we just talked about. She shows up in White Lotus.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: He's really good friends with her. They were on the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: season together, you know, they're the runners up together White Lotus.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I think I haven't seen it. I haven't watched White
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Lotus because I've been saving it for my my YouTube stuff.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: But uh, from what I understand, Survivor has heavily influenced
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: that show.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Johnny Fairplay has a minor role. Really, that's really Oh.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Why would you why why would you lie? You know?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I can't be like no, because I thought you would
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: say that I hadn't seen it. I don't know who's
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: next next up. This is someone that I do not know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: This is Edge of Extinction Rick Rick Devons. Okay, this
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: is somebody that I can speak on a little bit,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: just because I listened to the first season of the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: on Fire podcast and Rick Devons was the guest or.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: He was the like the guest co host, and I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: didn't realize they were gonna kick him off the show.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I wish he kind of just stayed every season instead
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of replacing him with other New Era people every season.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: But he was really good.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: He came off as like very charismatic and charming on
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the podcast, so I feel like if that is any
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: indication of how he played, then I see why people
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: like him.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've only seen the first episode of Extinction
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: at this time point, he's forty one years old. He
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: finished fourth, and he has eight total challenge wins. He
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: seems to be a pretty big fan favorite.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I think he did something. Maybe it was an idol
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: play or like a fake idol or something.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: That was a big deal. I know that, okay, and
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly what it was. Well, I guess
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: we'll find out when we're watching Taking the rind and Tape. Yeah, dude,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: because I only have six seasons left and then I've
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: seen every single season, you have quite a bit. But
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I can just tailor it to this list now.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I can just go and yeah, that's
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do, take notes on everybody. I mean,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be the most information we have going
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: into a draft because we haven't drafted former players ever.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Right, because we started the draft with forty four Yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and then we started the podcast with forty seven seven. Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: So all right, this next person is someone that PD
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: will have to speak about because I haven't seen this
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: season and you have season five forty two. Jonathan. He's
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: thirty two years old, he finished fourth in his season,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and he has nine total challenge wins man. I would
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: love to talk about Jonathan Jonathan.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: There was one challenge where he literally carried two people
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: on his back in the ocean because they were swimming
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: so slow. He just grabbed them and swam with them
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to the shore, which was insane.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I had never seen anything like it. Jeff was like, he's.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Literally carrying the team on his back.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: That is sick.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: So he was a challenge beast, but he was also
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: just he was dumb in a way that was endearing,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: kind of like Colby, but I don't know, maybe a
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: little bit more. But I mean there was also a
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: moment where he was he was talking to this other
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: player named Omar on the beach about like their faith
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and he just he came across like a
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: really nice guy to me, even though sometimes he would
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: get annoyed by the women talking. So that was the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I think one thing, oh boy, that was that was
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: one thing that people didn't.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Like about him. But fair enough, very much. Himbo. Yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Himbo definitely feels like the right vibe for this guy.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch that season because I've seen this
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: guy's face come up a lot in discourse. So next up,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: PD PDS oh man, PD's about about to go crazy
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: from season forty five, twenty eight years old, the youngest
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: female on this season. Yeah, the winner of season forty
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: five so far, the only winner in season fifty nine
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Total Challenge wins, Ladies and gentlemen.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: It's d yep, and we're talking about the new poverty.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say. Oh, d is gonna be
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: a survivor legend. She played the most dominant game of
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: the New era.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Dude, I think d.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: You can disagree with me all you want, d Is,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and I saw it coming, and that's why I picked
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: her to be on my team. And I think there's
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: an argument to be had that Rachel was the best
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: New Era player. D is number two in that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: So i'll give you I'll give you that. Yeah, but
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: if it's not Rachel, it's D. I'll give you that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: She had.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: She had the tight alliance and then backstabbed the person
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that she was closest to at the very end, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: then he didn't even realize it, and then she revealed
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: it to everybody, and it was the moment that I
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: think she won over the jury. So it was just
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a brilliant game. She was good and challenges too.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, she's a great player, She's a great winner.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I was very excited to see you. I mean, she
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: could be potentially a two time winner.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like you said, you're gonna be really
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: tempted to draft some of the old era people, Like
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really hard for me not
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to take first.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think her being a winner and being
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: only one of two winners in this season that are
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: coming back, do you think that's gonna put a big
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: target on her back?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Probably will, But we just saw in forty eight sometimes
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: big targets make it all the way to the end.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing about returning season is most of
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: these people are big threats.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, the other Survivor players might feel
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: like a bigger deal, even to the people on the island,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: just because they were on TV back when everybody in
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: America was watching.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Here's what I'll give you. I think she deserves to
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: be on fifty. Absolutely, I agree. I agree one percent.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: If she can show up on season fifty and play
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: another great game, I'll let I'll give you that she's
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: one of the most dominant winners of the New Era.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I don't love season forty five, and I didn't think
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: that she was that awesome of a winner. I think
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: if it wasn't for your undying love for her, I
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: wouldn't even really remember her much.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Is some of this field by the fact that she
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: won me a trophy?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Probably it could agree, It's possible that influenced. But I
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: also said, I also think, and I know this is
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: gonna sound biased, because Rachel was the one that won
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: me the trophy. I think Rachel's season had a better game.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: She was an underdog who overcome the odds and won.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: After all, d was just in a title lion. I
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: D was running the game. That's how I love she was.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: She was You're not Lyons, all right? Also from season
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: forty five, her big thing that everybody likes to talk about,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: including Jeff This Morning on CBS. Everyone hated her and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: then she became a fan favorite. Emily.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Everyone did hate her. They accused her of being racist.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Do you remember the first week with Bruce when Bruce
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: was saying something and she just I don't remember the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: moment exactly. I just remember Bruce gave some answer and
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: then she like barked at him for no reason.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: People are like, does she is? She's just like a horrible.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Person, and then over time, you know, she had this
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: total redemption arc.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was. It was fun. It was a
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: very interesting. I mean, season forty five, like I said,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: not my favorite season, but I would say that Emily
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: was one of my watching that arc of like villain
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: to hero kind of was very I.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Think season forty five was a good season because Austin
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Drew d Emily k Lob but there was a lot
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: of fun people on the cast and Bruce.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then maybe maybe it would be more memorable
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: if forty six hadn't have been right after and was
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: like libritating. Yeah. Also about Emily, she will be thirty
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: years old. She finished seventh in her season, and she
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: has three total challenge.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Wins, and she is a financial analyst, financial analyst, Emily Flippin'.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: That's that's right. It's important to say that exactly all right,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: from season forty six. Oh but one more thing about Emily.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: That was a Team Christen player. Do you think Kristin's
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: gonna want her back? Oh? Yeah, there's a lot.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of different things going through
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to this draft.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of history. One thing
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: that I want to do is, and I'm gonna try
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: to make this today. I want to make a graphic
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: showing all of the season fifty players that we have
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: drafted before.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I have so far people, Which yeah, says
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: maybe I know a thing or two about picking survivor players.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: If all my players are coming back, I mean, listen,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: there's no denying that. When it comes to the making
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the merge. Jody Newell cup PD's the goat Kristin coming
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: up real close. We're competing. You guys are fighting for it.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: PD always drafts really great players and then also he
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: drafts really memorable players like Andy and Bonu, So you know,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: there's no denying that you're the goat man. But I
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: think after I win season fifty, this is my time
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to take over. Next up from season forty six, the
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: man that I thought was gonna win me the Cup,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: the draft baby, the start of Q Nation.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Q qu Dude, can can we play the cameo that
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Q sent to you?
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Let me, It'll say to you. It'll probably take mehere.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I could talk about Q while you while you find
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: it because yeah, yeah, So the season forty six, I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: feel like Q. Without Q, it would not have been
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: nearly as memorable, because exactly, he was just such a
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: compelling character. In the beginning, he was trying to coach
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: up Bonu and he just couldn't do it, and they
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: had to let Bonu go. But I remember him sitting
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: at tribal telling everyone to vote for him, and it
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: just caused mass chaos, and it was one of the
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: craziest tribles I had seen in the New era, where
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: everybody's just getting up, they don't know what to do.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Like Q just told everyone to vote for him, but
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: then they somehow all agree to vote out Tevin, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I remember being like, why how did this get turned
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: around on Tevin? When Q literally asked everybody to vote.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: For him and he make it.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: But we got amazing moments like the Q skirt and
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: then hide and Seek with Q.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Remember that canceled Christmas.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: You remember hide and Seek where he got the mull
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: to play hide and Seek and then he's like, he
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: described how everybody played hide and Seek, and he's like,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: based off of this, this is how they were gonna
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: play the game. Like Bin's hiding in the bushes, that's
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the kind of game he's playing.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Q is one of my favorite players in the New Era.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I was so happy I drafted him. He's thirty one
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: years old, he finished sixth, and he has four total
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Challenge wins. But most importantly, he sent me this CuMo
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Chase Man show Boy. Yes, I'm in an airport and.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: I'm traveling, but I had to get on just to tell.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: You a little South South SOB, you had a.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: Survivor draft, right, Survivor draft warrible.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: You had an opportunity to take me first, and you didn't.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: You took Hunter.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Shoot the guys at home now Why not take me
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: first round? Why wait till the second round to pick me?
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: But I got to tell you something.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I'm the last.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Person left on your team.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: I'm the last line of defense for you, Chase.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: But you still got a shot.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: Brother.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: Hey, let me just tell you. We're not out of
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: this thing. We're gonna fight, you know, and if I
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: go home, I go home. But at least you're gonna
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: have a fighter left on your team. Everybody else in
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: this leave.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Let me just tell y'all something.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: P D Jonathan Christine Christine.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: First of all, y'all an awful people. Christ you didn't
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: draft me at all.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, Chase, you're not off the hook drifting me
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: second brown. But for all you other ones that Japanese
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: never big mistak though, you know I just wished for
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: the next three times in a row.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Your Christmas is just canceled. You don't even have them.
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: But Chase fixing man, Smile, be proud.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: You still have a fighter on your team. It's ready
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: to go.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: We're not gonna give up.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: We're not out of it. And guess what, we can
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: very well win this stay. So look, smile man. To
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: all you up at your Broni's counsel Christmas Peace and
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: then he went home. Right, yeah, man, I didn't realize
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: that that's where we pulled the Big mistake.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: And you know why we pulled it from there? Why
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: because he didn't say it on the show.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Dude, that's what I was saying. I didn't.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it when that became a legend.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Right right, I thought that that was from the show.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't realized that that was from the camp.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I watched every moment of Q on forty six looking
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: for Big Mistake to put it in our intro.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I couldn't find it.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: So it was just in the cameo, and I had
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: asked him to do it, and but I feel like
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: it was a thing that people said when they talk
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: about Q, and I just couldn't find the footage anywhere.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I thought so too, that's insane. And also the part
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: where he goes, uh uh, you pulled something else from
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: this video. We could very well win this thing. Yeah,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: we could very well win this thing. Yeah, I thought
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: that was when he said on the show. I didn't
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: realize that was from the cameo. We paid him to
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: say that and then used it in the intro. So
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: that's awesome.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it would be so funny, and I
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: knew how much you loved Q. Yeah, so surprising you
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: with a Q MEO it was. It was a great moment.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: We didn't even have it. We didn't have a podcast
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: or anything back then.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: We just did it for fun. Yeah. I mean, you
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: guys have done some really fun stuff for me during
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: some of these seasons. But the CMEO is, yeah, gotta
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: be the top.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: We got one contestant to harass you, you're hissing knowledge
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: was fun too. But Q, I'm so excited he could
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: bring back the Q skirt. Q on season fifty is
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: a big deal. I need a Q and Coach alliance, dude.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: And what's crazy is they would probably dominate together. Also
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: from season forty six, because we got three people from
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: season forty six, which makes sense because that was a
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: very entertaining cast. This next one though a little surprising
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to me. We have Tiffany.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tiffany thirty four years old. She finished eighth on
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: that season and she has two total Challenge wins.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: But I will say Tiffany, she gave a lot in confessionals.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: She wasn't like doing what people in forty eight do
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: where they barely say anything and they just kind of
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: state the obvious.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, she was very entertaining. I'm excited to see her
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: because that's the thing about returning seasons, especially back in
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: the old days when everyone had only played once and
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: then they come back for a returning season. Legends are
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: made in returning seasons.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm to Tiffany. I drafted her because she
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: found an idol on like the first or second episode,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: so I was like, yeah, I'll bet on that, and it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Was a good bet. I mean, she finished eighth, so
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, she went pretty far in the season.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Speaking of people who went to I.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Think she was my first round pick. Why isn't she real?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Season forty six real?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I took Charlie in the third round. But we'll get
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: to him.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean speaking of him from season forty six, Charlie.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: So Charlie. Here's the thing about Charlie. He is the
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: same age as D. He's twenty seven, which means that
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: he's the youngest male on this season. So Charlie and
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: d are the youngest players in season fifty by a lot.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Charlie, he's on my mount Rushmore right under d.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the runner up of season forty six,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: so he made it farther than both Q and Tiffany.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And what it was brutal having drafted him and really
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: been rooting for him, and then for him to get betrayed.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: He got betrayed by Maria's She flipped her vote to
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Kinzie and he lost by one vote. And he lost
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: by one vote because it would have been a tie.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And then Ben Katzman said he would have voted for Charlie.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: In the tie.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a brutal way to lose man, it is.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: And but now he's coming back. He has a seven
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: total Challenge wins. Now you you really, you really rode
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: hard for Charlie in that season. I'm not gonna draft
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: him unless I have.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Hey, he was one of the only people thinking really
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: strategically in that season and in the midst of the chaos.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a good players.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Lots of Taylor Swift references. Will probably get some more
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: of that in season fifty.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't care much for that, so it was
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: a bit.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: It was a big Katy Perry season for us this
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: year with the Gale and the Blue Origin stuff. It
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: might be a Taylor Swift season in fifty.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I hope not. Next up this is this is someone
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: that Jonathan drafted in season forty seven and she.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Almost put a Banu tattoo on Chase's body.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Explain that ladies, ladies and gentlemen, Genevieve is coming back
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: for season fifty insane because I made a statement not
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: too long ago.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: We had an argument about this, didn't.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: We Yeah, we did, we did. We did have an
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: argument about this. Here's the backstory. When we were drafting
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: for season forty seven, and this was the first season
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: of us doing making the merge the podcast, Jonathan drafted Genevieve. Yeah,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: he had the first very quickly. He drafted her first
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: out of everybody, had the pick of everybody on the show.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: He drafted Genevieve and we had not seen but two
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Genevieve confessionals in two episodes, so we didn't even know
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: what she looked like. Yeah, like me, PD were blown
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: away that she was the first draft pick out of
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: the entire draft. So when he does that, we're kind
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: of furious and I go, Genevieve will not win this game.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Genevieve won't even make the merge, and then I go,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: and I go. In fact, if Genevieve makes it to
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: the final three, I will get a tattoo on my
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: body of your choosing. It very quickly became a Bonu tattoo,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: because of course it did. Yes, Genevieve went on to
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: play a pretty good game.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: She was one episode away from the final.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Three, and I was sweating. Dude. Yeah. So then the
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: other the other week, we're all arguing, or maybe it
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: was just me and you, but we're arguing about Genevieve
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: coming back for season fifty, and I was like, I
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: can see her coming back for season fifty. She ain't
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: gonna win. And I mean, and I even said, I
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: even said, I'll bring the bet back.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: What You're gonna bring the Genevieve Banu bet back for fifty?
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I might, Man, I'm gonna have to how she plays,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: we raise mistakes. If she makes merge, you gotta get
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the Banu tattoo.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Is that No, that's too easy, that's too easy? Too easy? Okay?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Then what's the number? Can we can we make it
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: final five?
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: It's final three, dude.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, So it has to be the same bet. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: think so, But I'm just trying to get just Bonu
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: tattoo on you.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is, I might change it up
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: because we might watch season the first episode and I
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: might be like, listen, guys, if Joe makes merge, I'll
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: get this fucking tattoo. Like yeah, it doesn't have to
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: be just Genevieve, you know, yeah, but we'll see because
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: it would be funny because that was like, that was
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: one of the big themes of our our podcast for
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: season forty seven. We were like one chase closer to
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: the Banu tattoo, and like I would root. I wanted
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Genevieve to win the game if I didn't win, because
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I wanted you at the band new tattoo and for
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: be a winner. My wife was furious with me because
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: we were watching every week and it was really looking
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: like she was gonna make it in the file three
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: and Elizabeth was like, I cannot believe that you did that.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: And I was like, it's entertainment, baby, you don't know.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I'm a showman.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: But she mightn't want to see Bondi on your body forever.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean that's the thing is, like I
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: think the tattoo we've discussed it would.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Be like a heart, yea, what willian hearts above it?
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: It would say what willion hearts above it? You know?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: But I actually kind of really wanted to get it
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: because I thought it would go viral on TikTok.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so hey, Genevieve or whoever we end up doing, yea,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: hopefully if.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: We end up doing it, it has to feel right,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's still want to force it. Genevieve a little bit.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: She made decisions that confused me, like when she aligned
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: herself with Rome and then she voted out Saul after.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Rome went home.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I don't understand because she could have been she could
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: have pulled Saul in, yeah, and he could have been
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: a number for her. I didn't get that. And then
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: her fixation on what Kashawn said to her that was
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: like the big driving force of her confessionals and everything
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: about how like she really struggled to separate her emotions
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: from the game and then so she just like cut
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: herself off and like it was becoming a ruthless what
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: do they call it a game bot?
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Right? Basically? Yeah, she I mean, she's just one of
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: those players and we see them often. She plays hard,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: she's memorable because she plays hard, but she just didn't.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: She just didn't make it to the to the final three,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: you know, and an Operation Italy was also that was
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: a big moment. Yeah.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately didn't do anything, but for that one
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: week it was awesome.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: You can't deny that because at that point of the
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: season it had slowed down.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should go listen to me and Jonathan recap
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: that episode where we're like, this is the greatest episod, So.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Did Survivor history the best move ever?
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Like this saved us and now Genevieva Andy can win
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the game and we were wrong about everything.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that was one of those that I missed. Yeah,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: because even after it happened, I did the math and
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think Operation Italy even did
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: idy thing, Like at the end of the day, it
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: was so complicated for it to be a pretty basic
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: vote out. Yeah, all right, moving on, We're getting three
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: players from Survivor forty eight, which is crazy. I think
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I was a little critical of it at first, where
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I was like, why do we need three players from
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Survivor forty eight? But after I read out these players,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: we can talk about it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we just talked about them for three months, so
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: we can be a little bit more brief about these guys.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Camilla is thirty one years old. She finished fourth,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: she was almost she lost at fire Making. She would
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: have won the season if she would have won fire Making.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say I'm so pumped to
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: see her back. Yeah, she won eight total challenges. Look, Camilla,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I think deserves to be back. Out of anyone in
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: season forty eight, She's the one I'm most excited to
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: see come back. Next up also coming back the winner
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: of season forty eight. One of two winners coming back. Kyle.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: He's thirty one years old, he was the winner of
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: season forty eight, and he has nine total challenge wins.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like he is the we have the most
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: to say about Kyle coming back.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Probably, I do think that Kyle deserves to come back
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: because he won. But I would rather just see Camilla
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: from this season, I think, But don't. I don't mind
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Kyle being on the cast. I think Kyle gave a
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: lot even if nobody nobody could do anything about the
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Power Alliance, everything that he did worked out great for him.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: So we were pretty critical of him. But at the
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: end of the day, he won the game.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is going to be a really
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: great opportunity for him because it seemed like he wanted
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: to play a really hard game, but he played it
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: in a season where nothing happened. Yeah.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Mary talks about it in her exit press pretty much
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: every interview she did where she's like I had a
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: conversation with Kyle where I was like, is this the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: kind of game that you want to play?
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Like, is this what you came out here to do.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see how he does. Because here's
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the thing. He either shows up in fifty is a
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: target immediately because he won the most at the Because
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. They are all flying to Fiji right now.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: They will not get to watch season forty nine. The
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: last season that every Survivor player in Season fifty watch
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: before they got on the plane was season forty eight.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: There's two people from forty nine. They just stayed in
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Fiji and they didn't go anywhere. That's insane and that's
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: That's what happened historically, like Rupert with Pearl Islands to
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: All Stars. The most famous example of this happening is
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Russell Hans because no one. So Russell Hans played this evil,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: super strategic crazy game his first time playing, and then
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: he came back immediately for the next season. No one
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: got to see his season. Wow, so they didn't understand
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: what kind of player he was. So he'd got to
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: do it again. And that's the biggest strategic thing. And
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: we'll get that when we talk about the season forty
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: nine players at this But the reason I brought it
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: up was Kyle is the most recent winner on any
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: of their minds. So when they show up on the
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: beach in Fiji, they're all gonna probably be gunning for
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Kyle because he just won the million dollars. So either
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: he shows up and he goes out early, or he
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: proves that he's an actually really good player he deserved
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: to win Season forty eight. Maybe he'll even win again
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: and prove himself to be one of the best winners
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: of Survivor history. I'm excited to see him.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: I think I prefer for it to be just him
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and Camilla from this season because they were the duo
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: and they ended up winning the game, and Camilla was
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: a huge part of him winning the game because, like
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: we said, I think he sealed it with the jury
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: when she lobbed up that pass to him and then
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: he dunked it.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think that they're gonna team up.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Potentially, No, I think they're too smart. I think they're
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: both too smart. You don't think they'll try to do
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: another secret alliance that, no.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: One, I don't even think. I feel like, first of all,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: they're going to be separated. It's like, who knows.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: One of them could get voted out and be on
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: a different tribe and they just never even get the chance.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: To leak up. They might not be separated, they might
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: end up on the same starting tribe.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they would do that, though, I like,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like people with connections, they might put them
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: on different tribes just to shake it.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Previous and previous seasons, that's not been the case. Really. Yeah,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: because and we'll go over this.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I yes, Jeff wants the target or like he wants
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: the drama of what will they do if they's a.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Good think what it boils down to is I think
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: what it boils down to is it doesn't matter at
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: this point because all of these people know each other,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: they're all friends. Yeah, you know what I mean, so
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: it's like it's like the first All Stars when Boston,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Rob and Lex had something planned going into the game.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: So there's gonna be some pregaming stuff. And that's where
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Kyle and Camilla are a bit of a disadvantage because
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: they don't know them as well as you know someone
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: like Coach or Ozzy, who has been a part of
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: the Survivor kind of club for years and years and years. Anyway,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the final returning player from season forty eight, probably the
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: most head scratching person on season fifty Joe. Joe is
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: coming back, which I think I think he was.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: He's popular with the more casual viewers of Survivor who
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: are not on the internet.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Forty five years old, second runner up the season forty
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: eight eleven total challenge wins. I mean, dude, I think
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: it's the kind of thing of like, hey, you don't
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: have EVA this time, so let's see what kind of
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: game you play. I'm just interesting. I think he has
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: a great story. He was really good in challenges. Yeah,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm curious. I'm not super excited to see
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: him come back, but I am excited to see what happens.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am really interested to see how I'm interested
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: to see how all these like every New Era player
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: interacts with the legends. It's just it's gonna be one
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: because we've never gotten this. This is the first returning
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: season since.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: The New Era. What thirty nine, right? Forty forty winners
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: at war? Yeah, well so that's that's the case. Then
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be two players from season forty nine that
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: come back. What that tells me? Because they could have
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: just done one player from season forty nine. Tells me
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: that it might be a very entertaining cast, just like
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: season forty eight. Do you think the winner of season
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: forty nine is going to come back and we'll get
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: three winners coming back New Era winners. I have not, imitt.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's no point in speculating just because
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: we know none of them. That's true, very very true. Uh,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: A few things I just want to talk about from
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: this cast, because I know we've gone an hour already.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: We can go as long as we want. Brothers the offseason, True,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I'm the only winners. The only returning winners are from
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: New Era. There are no Old era winners coming back. Yeah,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. I'm very excited to see the previous challenge
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: beasts like Ozzie go up against someone who is a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: more current challenge beast and and younger. Q is only
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: thirty one years.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Old, but remember Q was not a challenge beast. He
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: actually struggled, right.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: But I just meant age wise, like Q thirty one
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: years old. Ozzy is forty three. Yeah, but Joe is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: older than Nazi and he looked great, very true. Joe
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: is forty five and he was a challenge beast. Him
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: and Kyle were the challenge beasts. I'd love to see.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just so excited to see all
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: of these people interact because it's gonna be such a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: mix of people like Joe who want to play an
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: honorable game and people from the old era who cut throats.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: And this season we're not gonna or for season fifty,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna wait two episodes because we will already
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: know all of these people, so there's no point in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: watching a couple episodes, and then at that point we
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: can all have six players.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: So and let me ask you this, and we can
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: keep this in because I think it's interesting, and the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: fans over on Patreon can put in the live chat
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: what they think we won't know anything about the season.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Forty nine players, Well, yeah we will because we'll have
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: seen the season. Yeah, okay, so how many total players
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: is this? Twenty two twenty four? I think Jonathan said,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: unless he counted it wrong, twenty four twenty four players
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: six each. That's insane.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we only get four. It's gonna be nice to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: have six. But man, how long is the season gonna be?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Are they gonna add a couple X episodes? They're not
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: from what I understand, They're not so twenty six format.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna have two double tribals or something like.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to have to have multiple double
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: elimination That's what I mean. Brutal, dude, dude, this is
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. Is gonna happen on episode one the premiere.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that one season where people showed up
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: on the beach. I don't know if you saw this season,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: yet everyone shows up on the beach, they pick teams,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: one person doesn't get picked, and they just go home. Yeah.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: That was the most brutal thing I've ever seen on server.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: You think that's gonna happen?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're gonna get at the least,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get a double elimination in the premiere at
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: the least. There's no way because they usually they usually
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: off with twenty players right in New Era format eighteen
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: right or no, it is no draft drafted. That's why
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I think that, Yeah, it's twenty, so there's twenty. This
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: is four more players. But it's the same season, so
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do multiple double eliminations. Do you
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna be three tribes of eight or two tribes?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Is that something we voted on? Did we vote on
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: three tribes versus two tribes? I don't think so. I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: don't think so either. I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I'm really interested. I'm excited for all of it, for
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: the draft, for being able to cover it like it.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: It feels like a huge deal. It is a huge deal,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna feel different, very different. What they've done
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: good about the New Era, And I think it's important
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: because what a lot of people people consider the dark
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Ages of Survivor was when they were doing these big
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: stunts every season to try to keep people watching, so
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: they were always bringing people back. They were always doing
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: these big themes and it started to feel redundant and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: not special. This is the first returning season of the
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: New Era, so that feels special. We're going to see
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: some changes to the format because there's more players. That
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: feels special.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, dude, how crazy is gonna be a first
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: episode we get a double elimination. Yeah, someone's down from
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: six players to four potentially episode one.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: I think that I'm probably gonna lose a lot of
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: sleep during season fifty if there's a double elimination and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I lost both players. I don't think I'm gonna have
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: a rough week if that was in the cards for me.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: But dude, it's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be so
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: much fun.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be the best episode of this best
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: season of this point. Because here's another cool thing. We
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: have binged the old era in hindsight. So like when
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: we watch the first seasons and then they get to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: that first All Stars, we know the other players because
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: we watch their seasons, but we weren't as connected to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: them as we are to these New Era players because
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: we've been watching live.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, watching live and and drafting and yeah, I.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Mean, dude, when when d goes home, it's gonna be
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: devastating for you. Yeah, if I draft her, I think
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: regardless because you have a connection with her, you know
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And on TikTok Yeah, Yeah, like if.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: D, if you don't draft D, you're still gonna kind
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: of be rooting for D. Yeah. In the same for Q,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be rooting for Q. I'm gonna be rooting
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: for Ozzie. I'm gonna be rooting for all of these
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: my favorite players even if I don't draft them. This
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: season is just gonna be incredible, Dude, I'm so excited.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be a crazy move if I was like,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna retain my team, I'll draft two players
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: at the.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: End and then but I don't know. We'll have to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: We'll have to talk. H We'll have to figure it out.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Because a rule that I've been really pushing for for
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: season fifty is for the first round, you get first
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: DIBs on any players that you have drafted previously. So
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: essentially what that would mean is if PD drafts first,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: then he gets first DIBs. He can take D, he
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: could take Charlie, he could take who else do you
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: got Tiffany, Tiffany like he could take any of those immediately,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: he would not be allowed to take Q because I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: get first DIBs. So if I vote last, when it
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: gets to me, Q will still be on the table
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: because no one's allowed to take him until my turn,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: and then I can either choose to take Q or not.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: The second that first round is over and you either
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: pick a returning player that you drafted before or you don't.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Everyone is free game.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: At that point, it'll be interesting. Well, well we'll have
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: a making the merge board meeting and hammer it.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Out, because that might be too complicated. Yeah, let's talk
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: about who you would swap out. Who are like, okay,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: three people that you would swap out, and who would
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: you replace them with? Do you do you have yours
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: ready to go? Yeah? I did all New Era for mine. Okay,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: you go real quick. Okay, So I did a theme
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: with mine where I picked three New Era players that
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: I would swap for with other people from their season. Oh, okay,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: that's a fun way of doing it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: So I would swap Tiffany with someone else from forty six.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: And that person is not Bonu, I believe it or not.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: It's Venus.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: That's a good one.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I would put Venus on season fifty because she was
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: part of what made season forty six so chaotic and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: one of the most memorable seasons of the New Era,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: because like, socially she was terrible, and but she was
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: so confident or in cue together and her and Hunter
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: and the way she went after people on.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Twitter, and she did it in a way that I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: thought was hilarious.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: And then I would swap Genevieve for I feel like
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Andy's the better pick there, I agree, the more compelling
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: character because he was a very compelling.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Character and a very good player and he made it far. Yeah.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: And then I would swap Jonathan from forty two with
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: mary Anne oketch, who is a little spoiler alert, is
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: the winner of that season, Okay.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: And mary Anne. I'm going to peel back the curtain
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: here a little bit.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Uh. When I draft, I think like, who is the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: most like mary Anne? Because I watched season forty two.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: It was my first season back from like watching when
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I was a kid, so like a long gap, and
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing mary Anne on the Beast just so
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: excited to be there.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: She like gave a little speech about.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: How excited she was about Survivor and stuff, and then
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: she was just this very like outgoing, goofy character but
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: also very strategic and under the radar.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: So I was like, I've never seen before.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen somebody like this win before, is
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: what I thought, Like, somebody who is a really charismatic,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: like entertaining character but also behind the same teacher like
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: really yeah, cutthroat. And her speech to the jury, I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: remember just being like, this is the best final tribal speech,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: like one of the best I've ever seen. I'm excited
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: to watch that. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Maryanne.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: She's also from Canada, so shout out to our listeners,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: so you got to shout out Canada. But there are
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: some players, other players that I'm disappointed that didn't make
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: it on the cast, like jam Jam. I think maybe
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: he turned it down because he seems to be happy,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: he seems to be doing fine. He's probably like I won,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't need to go back. But Carolyn,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I know her and Jeff have b for whatever I think.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: But she was like in the casting process, you just
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: got cut. But I think she was a big star.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: She is a big star. I'm just not a fan.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: I would have rather see Bonu than Caroline.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: I think for ratings, I think Carolyn might be better
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: than Bonnu. But Jesse Lopez from forty three is another guy. Actually,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: I have a clip that I want to play from him.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: There's one thing standing in my way right now, between
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: me and.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: A million dollars between me and like being able to.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: Between me and be able to give my kids like
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 7: that security.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Everybody was rooting for him to win, and then he
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: went to fire making and lost, and the whole time
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: he was talking about like I need, like I'm gonna
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: win this money for my family, and like I'm gonna
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I need to do all these things for my kids,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: and like they're depending on me to like come out
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: here and come back a winner. And he betrayed his
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: closest ally in the game as well, like right before
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: to get to the final four.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: That sounds entertaining. I can't wait to get there and
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: watch that season.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I really wish he had made it. Another guy I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: wish had made it was also from forty two. His
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: name was Omar's.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Here and talked about him a little bit.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the one that he was like allied
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: with Jonathan the Hembo. But he's also very strategic. I
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I kind of forget how he ended up going out
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: of the game, but I remember him being like really
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: smart and how he engineered a lot of the votes
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: and like in the way he thought about the game.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: That's really cool. Okay, So the three that I would
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: flip out.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: I would switch out Sorie for Sandra. Understandable. I love SII,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: but Sandra like that. They kind of it's like one
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: A one B for Survivor legends.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: They fit that archetype of older woman Survivor legend. And
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: also I would just like to see no spoilers for
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: this because I don't know if you've seen these seasons,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: but I would love to see Sandra win this season.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: It would be really cool just for like statistics and
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: history wise. Yeah, the next person I would flip out
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: or switch out, I would take out Emily from forty
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: five and I would actually put in Andy. Okay, so
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: similar to yours, except I didn't flip out Genevieve for Andy,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: switch out Emily for Andy. And then the last thing
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: I would switch out is I would switch out Joe
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: for Malcolm, mostly because we don't have a lot of
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: which I don't even know how old Malcolm is at
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: this point, let me look it up. But we don't
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: have a lot of younger Challenge beasts, if that makes sense,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: So Malcolm's thirty nine now. But I still think, like
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: we just watched Joe play, bringing Malcolm back would have
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: been really fun because he has a lot a big
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: history and I still think he'd be able to go
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: challenge wise, because, uh, I mean, who are the challenge
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: beasts in season fifty. Jonathan he was pretty yes, he
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: will be a challenge beast. And then other than that,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: you got like Q wasn't very good at challenges.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: No, for a guy who was a professional athlete, he
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: didn't excel at survivor challenges for debt fumbles, That's what
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I remember, dude.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: That Oh that was heartbreaking with that. But Kyle and Joe,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, Joe has eleven total challenge wins in one season,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: which is most more than most people had. Chrissy from
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Heroes Versus Healers Versus Hustlers had thirteen total in one season.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Heroes Versus Healers Versus Hustlers is the dumbest title that
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: they ever produced, they think, and it wasn't the most
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: fun of the themed like because they did like blue collar,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: white collar, and that was fun. The brains versus bron
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: versus beauty was fun. Like heroes versus villains. Everybody's on
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: board with that. But you get hustlers versus healers, like,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: what are you even talking about? It was like cops
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: and firemen were the heroes, doctors and nurses and stuff,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: where the healers and then the hustlers were like business dudes. Gotcha.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the bad.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad they don't do themes anymore if they
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: were like scraping the bottom of the barrel like that.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh, David versus Goliath was an awesome theme
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: and that was that was way after that one. But yeah, so,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: I mean I would want maybe a little because a
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: lot of the quote unquote Challenge beasts that are coming
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: back for fifty are in their fifties now, like Colby
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Ozzie's forty three, which isn't too old, but you know,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: prime dude, I mean he's forty three years old with
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: forty three total Challenge wins. He has one Challenge win
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: for every year he's been alive.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: When you put it like that, that's why he's a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Survivor Hall of Famer.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: He really is.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: There needs to be an official Survivor Hall of Fame
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: because it bothers me when Johnny Fairplay calls himself that
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: all the time when it's not a real thing.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: But I mean, he he is survivor. I can do
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: his intro.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: How's everybody doing this? Survivor Hall of Famer? Johnny Fairplay here,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna show you my epic new pinball machine
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: that was sent to me.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: You nailed it. That was awesome. Maybe we should make
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: the official Survivor Hall of Fame. All Right, I'm down.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: We'll sit down and we'll really will really work it out.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: We'll take it very seriously.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, number one, pick Genevieve.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: All right, let's just do the podcast here, the Making
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: the Merge podcast. Oh that's another player I really wanted
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: to see on fifty. Rob See. I listened to uh
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: because I got the Rob has a podcast Patreon because
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: I wanted to see what their Patreon exclusive stuff was.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: And I listened to him talk about not getting on
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: fifty and Uh. It was very interesting. He was very
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: nice about it. You could tell maybe his feelings hurt
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: were hurt. A little bit that he got cut. He
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: was just honored to even be asked at all. But
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: the big thing was he was kind of relieved because
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't have been able to podcast for a year. Yeah,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: and that would have been detrimental to his business. I imagine, Yeah,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: considering it's called Rob has a podcast, and if Rob
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: is gone for a year, then I mean that would
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: that would create some problems probably, Yeah, I can imagine
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: that would have been rough.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: But maybe they could change the title to Rob doesn't
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: currently have a podcast. But there are still some people
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: here like shl shout out Chappelle.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Because let's do the math here. He wouldn't have been
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: able to do any podcasts starting today. Yeah, So he
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to cover forty nine, he wouldn't
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: be able to cover fifty, and then he wouldn't be
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: able to talk about anything at all until after. Yeah,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: because it's impossible for him to do a recap of
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: the show for hours and hours and not accidentally give
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: away to slip up and say something. Yeah, yeah, he
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: did say. Because me and you talked about this because
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: we were really curious what would happen if he went on.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: He did say that once he got the official offer,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: he was gonna, like, you know, have his attorneys and
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: stuff send some stuff to be like would it be
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: possible at all for him to still do podcasts and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: executives and stuff. But I think I think he even
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: said it wasn't very likely.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Him doing ex oppress with the people, Like if they
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: voted him out and he has to do their interview,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: that would be really fascinating.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Even worse, he blindsided something and then has to talk
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: to him.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: They come on and they're like, we hate you and.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: The making the Merge podcast, Well that's all I got, dude.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk about fifty but we still have
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: forty nine first. Yeah, so we got this out of
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll keep bringing it up because I'm gonna
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: be watching the tape, so I'm gonna be thinking about
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: it all the time. I'm gonna be grinding that tape,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: watching the tape. But it's not it's not gonna be
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: silent film like they do in the with the sports.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be sound on watching the tape. And so
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: what does this mean?
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: Doctor John Lapuk has what you need to know about
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: all of this, plus there's another of us in that
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: bizarre case of a crypto investor who allegedly kidnapped and
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: then tortured him. Very crazy story.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: But first it had a team.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: To me check your love weapon.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Very crazy story. Anyways, this has been making the merge.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, we'll see you when we get done
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: watching the tape.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Grind to the tape.
• 1:19:14
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• 1:19:21
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• 1:19:24
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• 1:19:26
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• 1:19:29
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