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- 0:00Speaker 1: Mark Simone. Mr. New York. Now three hours every weekday
- 0:04Speaker 1: from 9 till noon on 710WOR. Well, John Carney, the
- 0:12Speaker 1: brilliant writer, he's the editor of Breitbart Business Digest. You've
- 0:17Speaker 1: got to read this every day. A lot of the
- 0:19Speaker 1: top smartest economy people, Larry Kudlow, Scott Besant, they say
- 0:23Speaker 1: it's the first thing they read every morning. The Breitbart
- 0:26Speaker 1: Business Digest. You can subscribe. It's free. It's absolutely free.
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- 0:37Speaker 1: your email free every day. John Carney, how you doing?
- 0:41Speaker 2: Great. Thanks for having me, Mark.
- 0:44Speaker 1: I'm reading the New York Times. Apparently, our economy is
- 0:46Speaker 1: in crisis. Unemployment, everything's out of control. Is that the case?
- 0:52Speaker 3: No, it's the opposite of the case today. We actually
- 0:56Speaker 3: just got jobless numbers in.
- 0:58Speaker 2: These are people who lose their jobs.
- 1:00Speaker 3: They go and apply for unemployment benefits. These came in
- 1:03Speaker 3: at 194,000 for last week on a three-month rolling basis.
- 1:09Speaker 3: It's the lowest it has been since 1969.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:14Speaker 3: So we have never had such a stable and secure job.
- 1:19Speaker 3: labor market as we have right now.
- 1:20Speaker 1: In the United States. What about the claim that we're
- 1:23Speaker 1: in an affordability crisis? How bad is this affordability crisis?
- 1:28Speaker 2: Look, gasoline prices are up. That's a problem.
- 1:35Speaker 3: It started to leak into some other things, but it
- 1:38Speaker 3: pales in comparison to what they tried to underplay during
- 1:42Speaker 3: the Biden administration when it really, really became a big problem.
- 1:47Speaker 3: We also, inflation has come down a lot since the
- 1:54Speaker 3: worst years of the Biden administration.
- 1:56Speaker 2: And we're probably, and look, once.
- 2:00Speaker 3: We get through the Iran situation, we should expect to
- 2:04Speaker 3: see oil prices come down a lot.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing about Democrats, you don't really want to
- 2:12Speaker 1: count on them to bring down oil prices. They tend
- 2:14Speaker 1: to shut down drilling.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Yeah. But they don't want drilling. I mean, that's one
- 2:21Speaker 3: of the big lies about this whole situation. The Democrats
- 2:24Speaker 3: act as if they're bad about high gas prices, but
- 2:27Speaker 3: they've done everything in their power, and they will do
- 2:29Speaker 3: everything in their power to make sure gas prices stay high.
- 2:32Speaker 3: They consider it, when it's not politically useful for them
- 2:36Speaker 3: to attack Donald Trump over gasoline prices, they actually want
- 2:39Speaker 3: gasoline prices higher because they want to force people out
- 2:43Speaker 3: of using gasoline-powered cars into electric cars. So they will
- 2:46Speaker 3: do everything they can, including shut down refineries, shut down pipelines,
- 2:51Speaker 3: shut down drilling in order to drive up and put taxes,
- 2:55Speaker 3: of course, on gasoline in order to drive up the price.
- 3:00Speaker 1: They did this in California. You know, they now have
- 3:01Speaker 1: it up to $ 10 a gallon in California. Pretty amazing.
- 3:06Speaker 2: It is incredible.
- 3:08Speaker 3: I do, you know, everybody should, it's actually really easy
- 3:11Speaker 3: to find it. And I have no interest in telling
- 3:14Speaker 3: people this, but if you go to the AAA's website,
- 3:16Speaker 3: you know, the car company, the driver's company, you go
- 3:21Speaker 3: there and you look it up and you will find
- 3:24Speaker 3: the prices all over the country.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Look at how expensive California gas is.
- 3:28Speaker 3: And remember, that's what the Democrats want for everyone.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Yeah. So, hey, what about the Fed? When is the
- 3:35Speaker 1: next meeting?
- 3:36Speaker 2: The next meeting is next Tuesday and Wednesday.
- 3:40Speaker 3: The Fed is widely expected not to raise interest rates
- 3:45Speaker 3: at this meeting.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Although I have to say, I think there's a chance
- 3:48Speaker 2: they might.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Yes.
- 3:51Speaker 3: So Kevin Warsh does not like the market believing that
- 3:57Speaker 3: everything a Fed person does is indicating with certainty about
- 4:01Speaker 3: what's going to happen at the next meeting. What happened
- 4:04Speaker 3: when Kevin Warsh spoke at a IMF conference, which, by
- 4:09Speaker 3: the way, these are ridiculous. They cost hundreds of millions
- 4:12Speaker 3: of dollars to put on. The last one was in Bangkok.
- 4:14Speaker 3: Kevin Warsh was there. He's a nice guy. He probably
- 4:18Speaker 3: doesn't need to go to those things anymore, but he
- 4:20Speaker 3: goes to the IMF thing, and he refuses to say
- 4:23Speaker 3: what the Fed is going to do this week, as
- 4:25Speaker 3: he should. He said he's not giving forward guidance anymore.
- 4:29Speaker 3: They'll decide what they're going to decide at the meeting,
- 4:32Speaker 3: and then they'll announce it afterwards. But the market took his, uh,
- 4:36Speaker 3: refusal to say anything as him saying something as him saying, yes,
- 4:40Speaker 3: we're going to do exactly what you expect. So he
- 4:43Speaker 3: really wants the market to stop thinking in that way.
- 4:47Speaker 3: He probably at some point will need to surprise the market.
- 4:51Speaker 3: And you know, this, I, I, you know, I'm not
- 4:55Speaker 3: privy to, you know, what Kevin Walsh was thinking as
- 4:58Speaker 3: he got on the plane back from Bangkok and saw
- 5:00Speaker 3: the markets reacting to his comments. But if I were him,
- 5:04Speaker 3: I would seriously consider the market has it so that
- 5:08Speaker 3: there's no chance of a hike next week, but almost 100%
- 5:12Speaker 3: chance of a hike in December.
- 5:15Speaker 2: There's no real difference between the two.
- 5:16Speaker 3: Warsh could actually accomplish something by hiking in October and
- 5:23Speaker 3: teaching the market to stop trying to pretend he's still
- 5:26Speaker 3: doing forward guidance.
- 5:28Speaker 1: It's not Warsh's fault, but in the Last bunch of years.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Hasn't the Fed been a little too aggressive? Shouldn't they
- 5:36Speaker 1: stay the hell out of it when they can?
- 5:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:39Speaker 3: What I think the Fed and Walsh does want to
- 5:42Speaker 3: do this, make the Fed less important to the economy
- 5:46Speaker 3: so that, you know, so that it's stocks and businesses
- 5:49Speaker 3: and everything isn't constantly not just about, you know, whether
- 5:53Speaker 3: or not we're producing good stuff, whether productivity is growing.
- 5:58Speaker 3: whether people have jobs, but instead people are so focused
- 6:01Speaker 3: on the idea of like, what will the fed do?
- 6:03Speaker 3: Kevin Walsh wants to move away from that. And I
- 6:05Speaker 3: think that would be a very welcome development, but it's
- 6:09Speaker 3: going to take some time. Look, the fed has been
- 6:11Speaker 3: basically since the financial crisis of 2008, the fed has
- 6:16Speaker 3: become one of the central actors in everything to do
- 6:19Speaker 3: with the economy. Ending that after close to 20 years
- 6:23Speaker 3: is going to take, uh, It's going to take a
- 6:28Speaker 3: little while and take some effort.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Hey, we're talking John Carney, Breitbart Business Digest. You should
- 6:34Speaker 1: read it every day. AI data centers, you know, the
- 6:38Speaker 1: problem is they're massive. They're way too big. They're too noisy.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Isn't this just a matter of time before they get
- 6:45Speaker 1: smaller and smaller like the computers did in the 70s, 80s?
- 6:48Speaker 1: They're going to get smaller, quieter. Isn't that going to
- 6:50Speaker 1: solve the problem?
- 6:52Speaker 2: I think they will get smaller and quieter.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Sort of like we've done with nuclear power, where people
- 6:58Speaker 3: are developing small modular reactors rather than giant reactors. They
- 7:04Speaker 3: will get smaller, quieter, and probably there will be more
- 7:08Speaker 3: of them. But I think a big possibility, look, if
- 7:12Speaker 3: enough states put moratoriums on AI data centers or try
- 7:19Speaker 3: to tax them in some way or another, I think
- 7:23Speaker 3: we may get Elon Musk's dream of the space-based data
- 7:28Speaker 3: centers where we'll be powering these things from satellites and
- 7:33Speaker 3: their signals will be beamed down to Earth so that,
- 7:36Speaker 3: you know, we won't hear them because they'll be up
- 7:38Speaker 3: in space.
- 7:40Speaker 1: I know he keeps talking about that. I don't even
- 7:41Speaker 1: understand what he's talking about. So you don't have to
- 7:44Speaker 1: be connected. I mean, you can do it from space,
- 7:46Speaker 1: send all that data. There's a channel big enough to
- 7:49Speaker 1: send it all down.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Our technology in getting signals from space is improving all
- 7:59Speaker 3: of the time, partly because of what SpaceX is doing.
- 8:02Speaker 3: There are other companies involved in this as well. But
- 8:06Speaker 3: I'll just give you a big picture.
- 8:07Speaker 2: In 10 years.
- 8:08Speaker 3: From now, we will probably not be using cell phone
- 8:15Speaker 3: towers except in New York City, in really dense areas, right?
- 8:21Speaker 3: In really dense areas, you'll still need cell phone towers.
- 8:25Speaker 3: The rest of the planet, particularly the rest of the
- 8:27Speaker 3: United States, will mostly work off of satellites.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Wow. And what is Musk? I'm reading all these predictions.
- 8:35Speaker 1: In 10 years, we'll have 100 million robots will be
- 8:39Speaker 1: doing everything. You won't need to work that much anymore.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Does he know what he... Well, obviously, he must know
- 8:44Speaker 1: what he's talking about, right?
- 8:46Speaker 2: We'll have robots.
- 8:48Speaker 3: And right now, think of this when they're self-driving cars, right?
- 8:53Speaker 3: So those are already robots that are moving around on
- 8:56Speaker 3: their own.
- 8:57Speaker 2: We will have.
- 8:57Speaker 3: Robots that are able to, that are less expensive than
- 9:01Speaker 3: cars that are able to do a lot of things.
- 9:02Speaker 3: But the idea that like there will not be work
- 9:05Speaker 3: for humans.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Is not true. there will always be plenty of work
- 9:10Speaker 2: for humans.
- 9:11Speaker 3: As I said to my daughters, you know, you still
- 9:14Speaker 3: got to study hard because you're still going to have
- 9:16Speaker 3: to get a job someday.
- 9:17Speaker 2: I hate to break it to everybody.
- 9:19Speaker 3: We're not going to have permanent vacation time anytime in
- 9:22Speaker 3: our lifetime.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Oh, except I like this. Musk is saying it'll be
- 9:26Speaker 1: a four, three day week, a four day week.
- 9:30Speaker 3: I think a lot of jobs that aren't that fun
- 9:35Speaker 3: to do will be done by robots. And a lot
- 9:38Speaker 3: of our jobs will actually become more fun and we'll
- 9:41Speaker 3: have a.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Lot more, call it bespoke things, because.
- 9:46Speaker 3: When robots can do a lot of sort of menial
- 9:51Speaker 3: labor tasks, that will mean that humans can focus on
- 9:55Speaker 3: things like more luxury tasks, tasks that are more fun.
- 10:01Speaker 2: We'll all be, I mean, we'll be, if things, if
- 10:04Speaker 2: we do get.
- 10:05Speaker 3: A world of super abundance where people, you know, Musk's
- 10:08Speaker 3: idea of, you know, we produce so much that we
- 10:09Speaker 3: only have to work two days a week, I think
- 10:11Speaker 3: we'll actually work more than that But we'll be wearing, like,
- 10:14Speaker 3: jeans that are hand-sewed by somebody down the street from us.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:19Speaker 3: Because we'll have so much free time and so much
- 10:22Speaker 3: abundance that things that right now are incredibly luxurious will
- 10:26Speaker 3: actually become, you know, made-by-hand shoes will become things that
- 10:30Speaker 3: we can all afford.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Wow. All right. Great stuff. Hey, everybody, I'm telling you,
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- 10:38Speaker 1: people in the world read this every day. And it's free.
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- 10:48Speaker 1: the Business Digest. It'll come right to your email. John Carney,
- 10:51Speaker 1: brilliant as always. Thanks for being with us.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me. Someday, the Breitbart Business Digest
- 10:57Speaker 3: will come to people from space.
- 10:59Speaker 1: All right. Well, thanks a lot. Have a great day.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Take care.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Thanks. Those satellites will be everywhere. Well, let's say you've
- 11:13Speaker 1: got like serious satellite radio, which you can go forever
- 11:16Speaker 1: and get the signal. So that will fix the cell
- 11:18Speaker 1: phone problem where, you know, now you've got these dead
- 11:21Speaker 1: zones in certain places. That'll fix that. Hey, coming up
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