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  It's thirty eight. All bills can win In here, Wake puts it down,
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  holiday week for everyone here joining in and tuning in. And in tonight's episode,
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  we've got an important I'm probably gonna say this every single week going forward,
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  but we have an important conversation to be had because every single game is
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  not do or die for the Buffalo Bills going forward, but it's pretty pretty
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  important. They left themselves a small margin for error in terms of winning the
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  division, in terms of making the playoffs. The AFC is a dog fight
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  in a multitude of ways, and the Bills go up against the team this
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  week with the best record in the NFC and the best record in the entirety
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  of the NFL, and that is the Philadelphia Eagles. And in the front
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  half of this episode, we're gonna dive into the x'es and o's and the
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  matchup pieces, scheme structure, bones, all of that stuff. When it
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  comes to Bills versus Eagles to break that down for you folks in terms of
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  what to watch for and why. On the back end of this episode,
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  I'm gonna dive into some game tape coming out of the Bills victory against the
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  New York Jets. In particular, I wanted to highlight one player for his
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  performance in that game. It's also you know, that performance in that game
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  for that person or this person, kind of being a microcosm for the strong
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  season they've had on the whole. But like I said, first half the
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  front of this episode, the brunt of this episode will be spent getting into
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  the bones and the x's and o's of Bill's versus Eagles. And with that
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  being said, I bring to the stage mister Sean Saiad, director of communications
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  for Sumer Sports, also appearing on the Philly Special podcast for The Ringer every
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  Wednesday to talk about the Eagles and break down stuff. Sean, you joined
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  me last year for Vikings Week. The episode is great, the game not
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  so much for the Buffalo Bills and for Bills fans. But you are awesome
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  then, you and I dm a bunch really started last offseason. You are
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  as I put it into some different communications and tweets and message and stuff.
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  You are one of my favorite guests on the show and one of the most
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  knowledgeable when it comes to just ball and structure and scheme and all that stuff.
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  And I guess you have to because you have scheme in your Twitter handle,
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  so kind of have to know that stuff. But you're awesome. I
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  appreciate the hell idea as a person and in terms of being a nowhere of
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  ball. With that being said, thank you for joining me, welcome to
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  show, and appreciate that so much. Thank you, Thank you everyone I
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  do. Yeah, let's remember that last time we got to talk into microphones
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  together before that Vikings Bills game last year. I feel like we both aged
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  during that game at different rates. And really since then, it feels like
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  it's been ten years and what a rollercoaster for all your Bills fans. It's
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  been a really interesting year for the Eagles, and I mean, I'm super
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  excited to talk about this matchup the Eagles. For those of you that don't
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  know, they're in a really interesting part of their schedule where they just obviously
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  played against the Chiefs. They got the Bills, they got the Niners,
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  they got the Cowboys, and they have the Seahawks. They're already played the
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  Cowboys once, already played the Dolphins. So, you know, just the
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  Eagles fan based Bills fan base, I think that all in all, Sunday
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  on Twitter is going to be It's gonna be a great day. I think,
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  uh for everyone Sean with you covering the Eagles this year and everything you've
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  done for them, I guess before we get into the bones of this episode
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  and the x's and o's and all that stuff, kind of give give everyone
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  at your high level thoughts on what this Eagles team is offensively, defensively,
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  or who they are, just you know, because I think from the outside
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  in for a lot of Bills fans who don't follow this team regularly, they
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  see a team that went to the Super Bowl last year. They see a
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  team that just beat the Chiefs, so they're loving them right now because they
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  beat the Chiefs. But as I mentioned, like sitting atop the NFL with
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  the best record in the NFL, and for all intents and purposes schematically from
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  a players standpoint as well in terms of talent coaching, they seem to be
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  a team that has it all. What are your thoughts on this Eagles team
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  as they sit here, you know, at nine and one, getting ready
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  to play the Bills. Yeah, the Eagles are so interesting every week and
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  they just have the ability to win in so many different ways. So sometimes
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  it's yeah, Aj Brown's gonna go five games in a row where he gets
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  like one hundred and twenty five to one hundred and fifty yards. There's going
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  to be games where Jalen Hurts can't really move around and has to check out,
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  check down that ball. Kind of Often there are times where the defense
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  is able to carry it, whether it's early in the season where you get
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  some of those turnovers that are able to swing things, and then there's a
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  game against the Vikings earlier this year where you really lean on the run game.
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  So to me, I think it's a really good example of a team
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  that whatever you're able to present on the other side, the offense is going
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  to try and find a way to answer that, and then really that defense
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  is kind of brought forward by that defensive line. I think that the offense
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  right now it's such a threes and layups offense, and you know, it
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  feels like maybe maybe you look at the Bills kind of like that where eels
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  right now, they know on the outside that they are better than you.
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  Between aj Brown and DeVante Smith, it is going to be rare that they
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  go into a matchup feeling uncomfortable with who is on the opposite side. So
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  how much they can do? You know, in that structure, when you're
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  on a defensive end and you're rotating things towards one player, you know that
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  other player is able to make plays off of that. And then in the
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  run game, you know, I had their right guard out for a little
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  bit. Cam Jurgens is back now played well this week against the Chiefs.
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  They're getting diverse there, but Jalen Hurts is banged up? Is right Kney
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  or actually I forget. I think it might be as left Nie. He
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  has ad that is injured and it really has limited his mobility. It's limited
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  his impact in the run game a little bit. So you know their amins
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  is not perfect right now. Their defense is like to me, is like
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  the favorite child because no matter what they do, kind of good or bad,
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  I just love it. So Sean Decives, their defensive coordinator comes from
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  that fangio tree. That defense, it's kind of rotational base. Whether you're
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  rotating to a receiver, you're rotating away from the passing train, and blah
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  blah blah. But they're one of the few teams that they'll play really every
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  coverage at like ten percent clips, so you're gonna see so many different things.
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  In the Chiefs game was an awesome example where they're doubling Kelsey, They're
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  running a ton of Cover zero that they haven't done all throughout the year.
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  But they are so much built front to back where if you're able to kind
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  of mess with that pass rush a little bit. You know, the Eagles
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  have it so many injuries in the secondary, their linebackers aren't their best players
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  on their team. They can be attacked on the defensive end in a lot
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  of ways that I know that you hope that the Bills are able to do.
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  In this man it, you put it so well with what this Eagles
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  team is, and you know from a I don't watch as much Eagles tape
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  as you do, but in watching the games I watched this year. So
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  came in watched three games in prep for this week and for in prep for
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  tonight's episode, and watch Chiefs game, the Cowboys game, and hold on.
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  I drawing a freaking blank here, then tell me to put you on
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  the spots the Commanders with the Dolphins. It was, oh, you know
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  why I'm thinking, I'm like losing my mind here. I definitely watched more.
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  I watched both Commanders games, okay, because that's the one that's thrown
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  me off here. Yeah, so I watched the most recent three so Commanders,
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  Cowboys, and Chiefs. And then what was throwing me off was I
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  had two Commanders jerseys in my head, and I was like, why am
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  I thinking that? Because I watched both because for whatever reason, and the
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  same thing last year, like when I buil didn't play the Eagles. But
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  one of the games, like I really grinded into the most was that Commander's
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  Eagles game because they beat the Eagles for whatever reason. The Commanders just play
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  the Philly so tough, like they just hit on all cylinders. And so
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  that was the first Commander's game. Was the last game that I watched,
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  because I'd forgotten they had played twice already. But yeah, they you know,
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  for a team that didn't really put it together last year and isn't putting
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  it together this year. Granted that first game they were a little more of
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  a whole team before they did all the trade stuff and everything that they did
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  going at the deadline, but they just seemed to be a team that gives
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  the Eagles problems. So I watched those four and my biggest takeaway, like
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  you said, like, and it's similar to the takeaway I had from them
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  last year. They adjust very well, and they're so multiple in a multitude
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  of ways, offensively defensively like and then the talent pieces as well, Like
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  one of my favorite things is say all the time, and I forget who
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  I got it from. Somebody definitely said this and I stole it from them,
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  So apologies to whoever I became a thief towards. But you can either
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  win with scheme or you can win with talent, and the Eagles just seem
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  like they can like do both easily. And even on the defensive side of
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  the ball, we're like that linebacking corps isn't really what you want, but
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  it's okay when that linebacking corps is sandwiched between Sleigh and brad Berry, and
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  then you get Byed and then Roby coming and being like your third dB and
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  your Nickel dude, and then the front you have and the versatility they have
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  on the front, you want to run some odd front, You want to
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  do some tight or some bear cool? You want to just be in a
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  regular four down cool? You want us to disguise coverages? Sure, you
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  want us to spin from single high to two hi, why not? Whatever
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  you want to do like you can. And then on the offensive side,
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  do you want to die by the run or do you want to die by
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  the pass? Do you want to get hit with explosives in the air or
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  explosives because they were generated with yards after catch? Like do you want to
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  just lose straight up one on one to Smith or aj Brown or even Dallas
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  Goddard when he's healthy. That's a big thing that he's not in there.
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  Or do you want to lose against the ground game? And then on top
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  of it too, like they've got like an all pro holistic offensive line with
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  probably or arguably the best offensive line coach in football and one of, if
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  not the best position coaches in all of football, and Jeff Staltlind like this
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  team is just so well constructed from a roster standpoint in terms of how they
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  were built and in terms of how and I know, kind of like the
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  souper de jour right now is to like tell everybody how amazing how we Roseman
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  is, but how the puzzle pieces all fit together from a roster perspective has
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  just been so well done. From how we roseman in terms of both offense
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  and defense, and this is a roster with very few holes. They're well
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  coached, they execute well. They're really this tremendously terrifying if you're not the
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  Eagles or an Eagles fan, they're really this tremendously terrifying amalgamation of talent,
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  scheme, structure, and design. And it's no joke that they're nine to
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  one and me and you mentioned too, like with Hert's like you can tell
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  that he's not healthy, but they're still able to get it done with them
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  and they they can beat the hell out of teams where they can win these
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  close games. They they're one of those teams that they find a way to
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  win. And the ways that they find or the yeah, the ways that
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  they kind of figure it out and how they find ways to win. It's
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  different from week to week. And they might win a game in the third
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  quarter, they might win it in the fourth early, they might win it
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  with the ground game, they might win it with defense, Like they're so
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  varied, they're so versatile, they're so multiple, and even when you think
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  like a team kind of has the opportunity to get them like they it looked
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  like the Chiefs had their number for a little bit. It looked like they
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  were dead to rights in that first Commanders game. Dallas gave them a good
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  shot. And then the Cowboys kind of cowboys a little bit, you know,
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  getting stopped on fourth down in the low red zone and turning the ball
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  over there. But they just consistently find ways to win, like and they
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  also make plays against like the best players, like Roby with that punch out
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  last night against Travis Kelce. That's a big time play, like in a
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  big time moment against one of the premier players in the NFL. And Roby
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  just pinpoint peeup punches like they just man Like. I'd enjoy this team a
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  lot schematically, like just watching them on tape, they're a really fun watch
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  and even if you're just watching from a broadcast perspective, they do so many
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  things. Well, yeah, I think that's that's also so so true,
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  the ability to do different things constantly. And I like that you mentioned you
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  know, obviously everyone loves kind of talking about Howie Roseman. I do think
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  when you're a team at the ownership and general manager level that I think Howie
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  Roseman feels pretty comfortable about his job security. So when you have that,
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  you know, it's like sometimes it's hard for us to step back and think,
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  like they are conflicting incentives between a head coach and a general manager.
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  A general manager usually is like, okay, their life managerly three years in
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  the NFL per GM it's like three and a half or something like that,
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  and they're trying to build a roster over multiple years, and a head coach
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  is like, if we don't win the day tomorrow, like the whole entire
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  thing can fall down. So it's so hard for coaches and general managers.
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  And I'm glad that we get to talk bills because you know, obviously you
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  guys have that offensive coordinator change. I think, you know, whatever you
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  think about it, one way or the other, Eagles went through the offensive
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  coordinator change where obviously last year Shane Steiken leaves. Now they have Brian Johnson
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  in there. And I say from Eagles fans constantly, you know, concerns
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  about the offensive coordinator. I feel like, you know, the eyes will
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  turn that way when you are a team with so much talent and it feels
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  like things aren't working out all the same. So I know when we get
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  to kind of our three things are maybe our main matchups to talk about,
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  I'm sure we'll get into that, but it it and I feel bad that
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  the Bills have lost some of the games that they've lost. You know,
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  you know, I always have my heart out for you, but just like
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  the Bills are like they just have full death to our potential and not a
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  lot of teams have that, So it's it's hard like the I mean justin
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  Herbert has that as an example, right, and then you watch the Chargers
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  kind of lose games that make you feel like man like, like, why
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  can't we just get a great season? Adam them. But even with the
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  Bills where they I think like in eighth right now, overall in the ACS
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  seedings, obviously the Bengals like they kind of fall out. How many games
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  of the Brown's going to keep winning? So you know, I hope we
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  get to have this conversation again in February and we're talking about the Bills and
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  the Bills and Eagles go in because I'm not even just like blowing smoke like
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  I've watched in the last the last Bills game. It, however, much
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  is different from the offense. You know, I think maybe not maybe not
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  that much everyone, but like there's just so clearly, so so much there.
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  And it stinks to talk about potential because right, potential just means you
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  haven't accomplished it yet or whatever. But yeah, like the Bills team is
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  really good. It stinks that there's injuries on the defense, but the offense
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  has the ability to like absolutely blow out the Eagles. I think the ability
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  to now that it'll happen. Yes, it's the ability to. Yeah,
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  that potential is you have that if you have like a some I don't know,
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  some kind of like charter graph and like the X and the Y and
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  like one is like what actually happened, and one is the potential. Like
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  they're super far, like almost off the chart on that potential piece. And
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  it's just been they've and I hate using these words because I feel like it
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  it's a cop out at times, but they've just been so unlucky and so
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  snake bit when it's come to a multitude of things offensively and defensively, from
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  injuries to turnovers to drops. Just the amount of untimely errors and unforced errors
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  when they come in terms of the game, where they come in terms of
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  on the field, and just how it's derailed them. It's been ridiculous.
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  And and you juxtapose it with an Eagles team who, like we talked about,
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  finds ways to win, like even when it doesn't look like they will,
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  or when they're banged up, or they just they just figure it out
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  consistently. And I think it's a sign and a testament to again like how
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  deep their roster is, but also how well coached they are and how well
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  they execute, Like this is just a real quality team. And I still
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  think, you know, I hate to be that person, but I mean
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  a ridiculous Jalen Hurts fumble and Nick Bolton touchdown in the Super Bowl and then
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  that weird that weird track and that weird field that none of the Eagles defensive
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  line could get their footing on. I still think they were the best team
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  in the NFL last year. I know they didn't win the CHIP, but
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  man like they and they came back loaded and then they get and I'm gonna
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  take the low hanging fruit that everybody and their mother like has been said.
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  And like then the NFL lets them get Jalen Carter ha ha ha. And
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  it's just like of course, like in the way they can roll through.
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  Man, they're they're an impressive score. I also think they're wearing the Kelly
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  Green uniforms this weekend, which is one of the best uniforms in the NFL.
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  Like them, the Creamsicle Buccaneers, the Oilers going back to the Houston
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  Oilers days, the Seattle Seahawks going It makes me even more upset that the
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  Bills haven't brought back some kind of version of the nineties Bills uniforms just for
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  one or two games. That's a whole other conversation. But Sean, you
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  mentioned it, you alluded to it. Our matchup pieces as we go inside
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  Bills versus Eagles. Let us start to go into that piece. So for
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  those who don't know myself and Sean, we each have our top three matchup
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  pieces that will decide Bills versus Eagles. It could be as large scale or
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  as granular as each of us want. It could be, you know,
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  just all this side of the ball versus that side of the ball. It
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  could be players specific, It could be a specific route concept, a play
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  design, alignment, personnel grouping, anything and everything completely up to Sean and
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  myself. Neither of us know each other's answers, so we're going into this
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  completely blind. It have the exact same answers. We could be completely different.
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  No one knows, and the chaos is what makes everything so fun and
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  so enjoyable in addition to the analysis. So, Sean, you are the
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  guests. I don't know if you have them ranked one to three or three
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  to one or they're all equal. Whatever you want to start with, the
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  floor is yours. Godspeed, and I'm glad you you kind of cued me
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  up there with chaos because you know we have our professor ks. My number
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  one thing is Josh Allen versus Josh Allen. That is really the most important
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  matchup to me. I think it's almost every week for the bills like that.
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  I've done that so many times this week I've done or this year,
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  I like one of my matchups is always like Josh Allen versus himself and so
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  okay, in like why would that be the top thing? Like it's important,
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  Like that is one recognition that Josh Allen can hit throws that no one
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  else the NFL can. Absolutely no one else the NFL can, and then
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  they're like, you see that awesome throw where Sauce Gardner's like a little bit
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  off. They're running that trips concept where I think it was your Quia right
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  has that long touchdown, Like there are not ten quarterbacks in the NFL that
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  I feel confident to make that throw. Like you can't get to some of
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  those throws without having some balls that like manned up in the other team's hands.
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  So it's the I'm god you mentioned kind of turnover lock and things like
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  that. Whenever I think of turnovers, I always try to think, like,
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  is this fundamental to this player? So Jalen Hurts had some just like
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  really weird, like funky interceptions where he had two earlier this season that were
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  just bad and he would tell you that they were awful. And then you
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  know one hits like a tight end's hand bounces off a defensive ends helmet and
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  lens in the defense man. So those are turnovers where that's not going to
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  kind of track you week to week. I think that part of Josh Allen's
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  game is not like risky throws, but the way that how early you have
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  to throw a ball for some of those vertical routes, like that kind of
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  interception against the Bengals is one example where yeah, you're probably not gonna want
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  him to throw that ball, but I'm telling you there's times where he can
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  squeeze that ball in there. And so even against like the interceptions against the
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  Jets in the first game, those were you know, those were certainly less
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  SI ideal, and they had one I think against the Jets this week where
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  you know, that's not the throw I think you'd love for him to take.
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  I did like, even if I personally don't feel like, you know,
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  you switch offense according because you're not gonna undo the whole entire structure of
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  your offense, it felt like there were more times and definitely Aunt tell me
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  if I'm wrong, where they seem to like the they're scheming things for their
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  running back, which that like artificially deflates your average depth of target, and
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  I think that's kind of smart, Like you're not letting Alan throw that deep
• 20:26
  ball, but hey, we're scheming just a running back open in the flat.
• 20:30
  Whether it was I think it was that Tyler Johnson one or obviously an
• 20:32
  awesome one where I think it was James Cook where he comes from one side
• 20:34
  of the formation going over to the trips like that is a smart thing as
• 20:38
  an offense to say, you know, we're gonna limit it a little bit,
• 20:41
  but like, you can't stop Josh from being Josh, and I don't
• 20:45
  think you should. So that's something that I think it's hard for. It's
• 20:48
  easy for me to say, you're just like, like, I'm not a
• 20:49
  Bills fan. I don't have to deal with the ups and downs of it.
• 20:52
  I just get to watch and be like, oh, that throw is
• 20:55
  sick. I want to see more of those. So I feel like like
• 20:56
  interceptions as a whole is like a conversation maybe like we just have to have
• 21:00
  where it hurts. Is another example where he's gonna take those vertical shots because
• 21:07
  you should. When you have aj Brown down there, it doesn't make sense
• 21:10
  not to. When you're Josh Allen, you're able to make some of those
• 21:11
  throws. I do think you know, you could tune the machine just a
• 21:15
  little bit better. But finding the balance between I'm throwing this via ball in
• 21:21
  there and hey, I need to eat this one. Let me get it
• 21:22
  kind of comfortably to my running back that I think is like, like whatever
• 21:26
  guests you have on, I think this should probably lead with, well,
• 21:29
  Josh Allen versus Josh Allen decides it because in reality, like it's not that
• 21:32
  the game is just the Eagles to win, Like it kind of is like
• 21:34
  what percentile of Josh Allen are you getting? And then kind of everything falls
• 21:38
  into place after that. I think that's tremendously well said. And it's funny
• 21:42
  because this is the one of the few times where I didn't put Josh Allen
• 21:47
  versus Josh Allen Josh Allen versus himself, because there's so many Egle pieces that
• 21:51
  I like and I wanted to talk about. But you're spot on. So
• 21:52
  the phrase that I always used to describe it as the yin and yang of
• 21:56
  Josh Allen, and I think as he's played thish year, the Brett I
• 22:00
  hate comps, but the Brett Farvkamp has just been so spot on where Allen
• 22:06
  makes these throws it makes you go wow, and then he makes a throw
• 22:10
  that makes you go oh wow, Like they you're just like that's horrible,
• 22:15
  and you know you're using the example from that Bengals game. It's so perfect,
• 22:18
  like Bengals run cover two basically like kind of a smash concept almost,
• 22:23
  but Diggs runs that out from the inside and the slot it's not there.
• 22:27
  Cam Taylor Britt doesn't jump it, he doesn't try to trap it. He
• 22:30
  stays sinking the entire time. It's a bad decision from Alan that throw is
• 22:34
  not there. But also if he puts it up the field a little bit
• 22:37
  more and more towards the sideline, he can make that whole shot. And
• 22:41
  he has. But that's the yin and yanga Josh Allen like. He makes
• 22:44
  decisions that, even when they go right, they are not the smart or
• 22:48
  prudent decision, but he pulls rabbits out of his hat and he makes the
• 22:52
  plays. Another good example, but it worked positively last year the Saturday night
• 22:56
  game in Buffalo against the Miami Dolphin. The end of the first half,
• 23:00
  think there's like six seconds left on the clock. They run a play in
• 23:03
  the low red zone and Alan scrambles and runs around and eventually gets to the
• 23:08
  sideline, throws back across his body touchdown to James Cook. That decision was
• 23:14
  horrible, Like you the odds of you making that play are very very very
• 23:18
  small. Now you made it and you got a touchdown. Awesome, but
• 23:21
  you easily could have ended up with no points. And you also cost yourself
• 23:23
  an opportunity to feel go. But that doesn't get looked at. You just
• 23:26
  see, Oh my god, what an amazing play by Josh Allen. And
• 23:30
  I don't know which is the positive and the negative in Yin and Yang,
• 23:33
  but which I will say Yang is the negative one. There's been more Yang
• 23:37
  this year for Josh Allen in terms of the decision making, ball placement,
• 23:42
  the inaccuracy at times, but then he just has that ability to uncork some
• 23:47
  beautiful throws you mentioned, like the secure one against Sauce there. You know,
• 23:49
  he's that deep third player on that side, and Alan just rifles it
• 23:52
  in there and makes throws with trajectory and velocity that not many quarterbacks really can
• 24:00
  make in anywhere in the world, especially just like where he is now.
• 24:04
  And that's just kind of where they've been this year. A bit too much
• 24:08
  at times, and it really comes down to, yeah, him versus himself.
• 24:11
  And the thing I think always gets me too is when he makes mistakes,
• 24:15
  especially early. This is all also part of the Yennie Yang of Josh
• 24:19
  Allen. He wants everything at all times. Like the thing that makes him
• 24:25
  want to run through a linebacker or hurtle somebody is the same thing that makes
• 24:30
  him I'm gonna throw this ball into this really tight window that I probably shouldn't
• 24:33
  throw and up it got picked. He wants blood at all times. If
• 24:37
  he can get thirteen yards on a run, he wants all thirteen. He's
• 24:41
  not happy if he gets twelve. He wants. He wants to max out
• 24:44
  every single time. And when he makes an error and a mistake, instead
• 24:48
  of coming back out and being like, all right, let me reset,
• 24:51
  let's get after it, no, he breaks the dial and turns it past
• 24:55
  ten and he wants to go for blood even more. He wants to max
• 24:57
  out and also make up for that mistake. So if he throws an interception
• 25:03
  earlier, he turns the ball over, he has a poor decision. There
• 25:06
  is that potential or that capacity to have some of those kind of snowballing errors
• 25:12
  and against the defense like this in Philadelphia that is capable of putting you in
• 25:18
  a bad headspace and stressing you out with pressure and stressing you out with coverage.
• 25:23
  I think that's a tremendous matchup piece because if you get on Alan early
• 25:27
  and kind of make him have to play against himself, it's something that can
• 25:30
  favor you a little bit. Yeah, I do think for the Bills as
• 25:33
  compared to the Chiefs, like the lot are on Monday night. The was
• 25:37
  it Monday night? Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. So the something
• 25:41
  that I think the Eagles had the advantage of was Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs
• 25:45
  receivers like are clearly not on the same page as routes kind of get deeper
• 25:48
  down the field, so you really as a quarterback on a receiver have to
• 25:52
  see the defense in the same way because you know where your angle of departure
• 25:56
  on your route break is going to be a problem because quarterbacks throw into a
• 26:00
  spot a lot of the time, so you need to be where they expect.
• 26:03
  And I think the Bills are going to be in a lot better position
• 26:04
  where the Eagles defense was more than happy to say we're gonna double Kelsey,
• 26:10
  We're gonna blitz you, beat us somewhere else. If they do that to
• 26:12
  the Bills and Digs, I'm like, you know, number one clear seguar
• 26:15
  fan out there, and whatever you think it gave Davis. I think he's
• 26:18
  good. So I do think like Josh Allen's gonna have a lot of opportunities
• 26:23
  in this game. I imagine the other the Eagles game has to look different
• 26:26
  than it did against the Chiefs. But you know, I'll never miss a
• 26:30
  chance to say, you know, we could say the Bills receivers are better
• 26:32
  than the Chiefs. I know that everyone here loves talking about the Chiefs,
• 26:36
  but like, like if you had Josh Allen's powers, Like, isn't that
• 26:38
  how you'd play football, Like you'd be just like I need, like I
• 26:41
  can only get thirteen yards, No, I'm getting fifteen. Like I feel
• 26:45
  like that's as someone who's unrelatable because like I like I can't throw a ball
• 26:49
  that far. I am not that large, I cannot jump that high.
• 26:52
  It's like the most human thing to me. You could disagree, but like
• 26:56
  if you're that talented, like I just get it, Like it just it
• 26:59
  makes sense to me. And I like that. You know the Yin Yang
• 27:02
  is it's I think it's the perfect example. I know you've used that before.
• 27:04
  I think it's smart. Like I think of the Justin Herbert comp like
• 27:07
  you can't get the highest level positives without dealing with a little bit of the
• 27:11
  negatives. But I would agree with you. Let's let's kind of turn that
• 27:15
  dial just just a little bit. I think it'll be it'll it'll be fun
• 27:18
  overall to see, you know, hopefully you get you beat the jatselscout on
• 27:22
  the hot streak and you guys get rolling. Yeah, And I think that's
• 27:23
  a fair point too, about like someone be like, hey man, you
• 27:26
  gotta read this out and take the check down. And he's like, well,
• 27:30
  I can throw a ball through like a brick wall. So I'm just
• 27:32
  gonna keep on doing that. Like it's like, okay, well, all
• 27:34
  right, that's understandable, Like that's pretty sweet. I wanted to shout out
• 27:37
  Karl in the comments who said Yin is the passive negative force and yang is
• 27:41
  the active positive force. So I just guessed I said Yang was the negative.
• 27:45
  I was wrong. I wanted to s what if you have an active
• 27:48
  negative force, because sometimes it feels like there's a there's like an active active
• 27:52
  negative on on one of Josha. Can we change this to just a yang
• 27:56
  pod. Yeah, let's just change this to a whole philosophical discussion about like
• 27:59
  four and vibes and energy. I like that a lot. Okay, So
• 28:03
  I have two Bills offense related points. I don't know which I want to
• 28:07
  go. I'm gonna go with this get I keep everything. I'm gonna go
• 28:11
  with this one. Becau. I feel like a piggybacks on part of what
• 28:14
  you mentioned in your first piece. So my first point that I'm gonna mention
• 28:17
  here is the Buffalo Bills non Josh Allen run game versus the Philadelphia Eagles run
• 28:23
  defense. So to break into that some numbers, Eagles run defense fifth in
• 28:29
  DVA, eighth, lowest epa per attempt, fifth, lowest yards per attempt,
• 28:33
  lowest yards per game allowed. That's also influenced by game script, So
• 28:37
  don't think it's the end all be all, but it's it's still worth noting
• 28:41
  seventh, highest yards after contact per attempt seventeenth and stuff percentage, which is
• 28:45
  the amount of runs they go for zero or less yardage eighteenth in broken tackles
• 28:49
  plus mistackles per carry. Now that's the Eagles run defense in a nutshell from
• 28:56
  a metric standpoint. We'll get into some other pieces, but the Bills run
• 29:00
  game from a running back standpoint only is an aspect of this team that I
• 29:03
  do not think it's talked about enough. From a national standpoint. It was
• 29:07
  one of my biggest gripes with Ken Dorsey, and I don't think it was
• 29:08
  talked about him enough. He was very inconsistent in committing to the running game
• 29:12
  and using it with regularity, and I thought that down the back end of
• 29:17
  twenty twenty two, and I thought this year it was a similar story.
• 29:21
  That Giants game, I think is a really good microcosm of it. They
• 29:23
  pivoted to the run game in the second half to you know, seven eight
• 29:27
  plus minute drives, double digit plays, ran it down the giantsat changed the
• 29:32
  complexion of that game due to the run game. I felt like that was
• 29:33
  a pivot they could have hit early in the second quarter when things weren't clicking
• 29:38
  with the passing offense and they were kind of struggling a little bit and stuck
• 29:41
  in the mud spinning their tires. But this Bill's run game has been real
• 29:45
  quality. So just from you know, a holistic running back Harry's perspective,
• 29:49
  only, the Bill's run game is fourth in EPA per attempt. They're one
• 29:53
  of only five teams with an EPA per attempt in the positive they have the
• 29:56
  lowest percent of runs that where they get hit at the line of scrimmage at
• 30:00
  thirty two percent. They have the lowest stuff percentage at twelve point four percent,
• 30:04
  their first and first down percentage, and their fifth in yards per attempt.
• 30:08
  And then if you break it into James Cook and Latavious Murray, who'll
• 30:11
  been the two main belkow ball carriers for this team this year. Although you
• 30:15
  know Joe Brady seems to like Ty Johnson to some degree, we'll see what
• 30:18
  he continues to look like. James Cook and Latavius Murray. Amongst the fifty
• 30:22
  nine running backs that have at least forty carries this year, James Cook is
• 30:26
  twelfth in EPA per attempt, twelfth in total EPA eighth and positive play percentage
• 30:32
  seventh, in yards per attempt third, lowest hit at the line of scrimmage
• 30:34
  percentage fifth, lowest stuff percentage eighth in yards after contact per attempt, Latavius
• 30:40
  Murray ninth and EPA per attempt tenth and EPA sixth, and positive play percentage
• 30:45
  thirty first in yards per attempt, fourth, lowest hit at the line percentage
• 30:48
  lowest stuff percentage and forty fifth in yards after contact per attempt. He's been
• 30:52
  more of that hammer. But you look at those metrics and especially the two.
• 30:56
  You see what Cook has done, you see what Murray has done.
• 30:57
  The two that I really want to drive home for this team as a whole
• 31:02
  and for their running backs. The lowest percentage of runs where the running backs
• 31:07
  get hit the line of scrimmage, and the lowest stuff percentage, which again
• 31:10
  are those carries that result in zero or fewer yards. That isn't necessarily due
• 31:14
  with the running backs. That's due to the offensive line creating displacement, creating
• 31:18
  space, allowing these running backs, you know, the opportunity to work,
• 31:22
  whether you want to go with creating alleys or creating runways for them. The
• 31:25
  Bills running back game from a running back carriers perspective only, has been strong
• 31:29
  for them this year. They can lean into gap scheme runs like tackle wrap
• 31:33
  or dart duo. They have some gh counter that'll get sprinkled in every now
• 31:37
  and again, but when they're going gap that's really tackle rap and dart and
• 31:40
  duo. Or they can lean zone in particular, they'll go mid zone and
• 31:44
  outside zone, mid zone is really their bread and butter. They'll run it
• 31:45
  weak, they'll run it strong, especially when you know they go twelve personnel
• 31:48
  and increase that you know that surface count for them on the offensive line there
• 31:52
  with the tight ends. But the Eagles front, I feel can provide complications
• 32:00
  because they've got this really good mixture of speed and athleticism and power. So
• 32:05
  can the Bills get downhill versus them? Can they create that displacement or people
• 32:09
  move them to create gaps, or if they need the lean zone, can
• 32:14
  they cross face and beat them with athleticism and establish angles. Because again,
• 32:17
  like we've talked about, there's so much versatility schematically and from a talent standpoint
• 32:22
  for this Eagles front and this Bill's run game helps the offense in a vacuum
• 32:27
  like just in and of itself because it moves the ball and helps put points
• 32:30
  on the board, but it also provides an easy button for the offense and
• 32:32
  for Josh Allen, it allows them to take a breath and kind of switch
• 32:36
  off for a play. Just a basic all right, cool, let me
• 32:38
  snap this ball and hand it off and let somebody else do the work.
• 32:42
  I don't have to make a read. I don't have to do anything.
• 32:45
  I just snapped the ball and hand it off, although sometimes that can be
• 32:47
  problematic if I tie it back to the Vikings game last year, we've fumed
• 32:52
  on the goal line, But that's the conversation for another time. And also
• 32:53
  playing a role into this is something you mentioned with your first point. Joe
• 32:58
  Brady, going back to his time at LSU when he was the passing game
• 33:00
  coordinator and wide receivers coach, he is very adept at getting the running backs
• 33:05
  involved in the passing game from a primary option standpoint or as part of the
• 33:10
  natural progression, not just like as a checkdown or as an outlet. He
• 33:14
  did it in Carolina and someone might say like, oh, well, yeah,
• 33:16
  Christian McCaffrey. McCaffrey was on IR and banged up for the heavy majority
• 33:20
  of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. He was doing this with like Chuba
• 33:22
  Hubbard and Mike Davis. Like Mike Davis was super fantasy relevant in twenty twenty
• 33:27
  and twenty twenty one because of Joe Brady, And you mentioned what he did
• 33:30
  this past week against the Jets, like that touchdown to Ty Johnson, the
• 33:34
  touchdown to James Cook, especially the one to James Cook, that mess traffic
• 33:37
  concept that the Giants ran on Sunday, that the forty nine ers ran on
• 33:40
  Sunday. I believe you put a tweet out about that as well, like
• 33:45
  it was so well designed and we saw it account for a big moment in
• 33:49
  that game, and just his ability to incorporate the running backs into the passing
• 33:52
  game as well ties into you know, for me, just kind of wanted
• 33:54
  to put that little cherry on top for the running backs and their involvement.
• 33:58
  But yeah, that non Josh Allen run game and getting the running backs involved
• 34:01
  in general from a schematic standpoint, especially considering you know, if you do
• 34:06
  it right, which Joe Brady does, you can get them matched up against
• 34:09
  linebackers more often than not. And I like my chances in space if it's
• 34:14
  James Cook versus Zach Cunningham, who's coverage is not his forte and some of
• 34:19
  those pieces like that. So that's my first point. Yeah, the Eagles
• 34:22
  defense is I mean always fun to watch and in a lot of different ways.
• 34:24
  It Like I said, it's so built front to back and their base
• 34:28
  they're going to be in that you know three four look where they're really able
• 34:30
  to be zone killers. They have Jordan Davis at the nose when they get
• 34:35
  into nickel looks, they have you know, they'll run Carter and Fletcher Cox
• 34:37
  at the defensive tackle position. And I mean, Jalen Carter is like he
• 34:40
  is a game runer right now. And then obviously Reddick and and sweat on
• 34:45
  the outside and something. Dude, don't I mean, we haven't even talked
• 34:49
  about like Milton Williams, and like, just you got to like open up
• 34:52
  the media guy, like all these players just like the first game that I
• 34:54
  watch, because I mean I have not I'm not an Eagles fan. I
• 34:57
  haven't been watching the Eagles like directly my whole entire life. It's like,
• 35:00
  how do you just like these defensive tackles just grow on trees Like that's what
• 35:04
  we're doing here. Uh, it's I mean, it's fantastic. It's a
• 35:07
  lot. I love that you mentioned Milton Williams because I've like I saw him
• 35:10
  flash on like tape a bit, and then of course last night he had
• 35:14
  like several really big plays and I was just like, damn, like you,
• 35:19
  nobody's mentioning Milton Williams. And he's also like a force and he's like
• 35:22
  the seventh best guy on the line. It's just so stupid, Like it's
• 35:27
  ridiculous. Yeah, it's it's it's a privilege for the Eagles, and I
• 35:30
  think, you know, it helps them because obviously they're a team that they're
• 35:31
  feel like they're going to be playing late in general, hopefully early into February,
• 35:36
  like you can they like they're not going to play their guys every single
• 35:38
  snap because they don't have to because they have that depth. But to me,
• 35:42
  the most important thing is like they're obviously their defense is built such that
• 35:45
  their linebackers are not not like the worst, like they are of lower quality
• 35:50
  than I think everywhere else based on investment, and I think that's a sound,
• 35:52
  you know, team building strategy. But those linebackers get to stay clean
• 35:57
  for so much of the game because guys like Cocks, guys like Jalen Carter,
• 36:00
  guys like Jordan Davis. He just eat up double teams and it causes
• 36:05
  an offense so many issues. I will say though, I think like the
• 36:07
  Chiefs were able to find run success against the Eagles in the past game because
• 36:13
  partially was like the Eagles really devoted to man coverage, really across the board
• 36:17
  on a lot of plays, so the receivers they would just kind of like
• 36:20
  crack block and then your cornerback goes there and then the ball can spill out
• 36:22
  to the edge and there's no one there to tap it. So that's that's
• 36:25
  just difficulty because of how they wanted to devote to dealing with Really the Travis
• 36:29
  Kelce past game, I imagine they're going to be in a he couple lot
• 36:31
  more zone. Even then, if I'm the Bills, I do want to
• 36:36
  see that ball rolled off to the table because, yeah, whoever you think
• 36:38
  Bradbury and Sleigh are right now, like they are in different faces, like
• 36:42
  they're a little bit later in their career, they're a little bit longer in
• 36:45
  the tooth where I don't know, I would take James Cook probably in space
• 36:49
  one on one with Direus Ledge over and over. I think that's something that
• 36:52
  the Bills will, hopefully, you know, try to do. And overall,
• 36:55
  I think that the Chiefs were able to get into different like spread to
• 36:58
  run looks, which the Bill do that all day. It seems like where
• 37:01
  you're in gun, you're in eleven personnel and that a lot of times,
• 37:05
  I mean if I'm the Eagles, I'm matching that in nickel or like their
• 37:08
  Penny front where it's a five to one so that you can deal with zone
• 37:12
  runs a little bit better from that look. But I mean, the Chiefs
• 37:15
  are able to displace linebackers with motion, hopefully the Bills are again hopefully for
• 37:20
  you guys. Yet the Bills are able to do that because you can get
• 37:22
  a linebacker out of the box, especially when they run dart Like I can
• 37:25
  just see in my head a lot of examples of dark coming up where that
• 37:29
  tackle is like is running through like a truck size hole, you know,
• 37:32
  clean out that linebacker. And then it's up to really you know, Reblank
• 37:36
  the Chip and Kevin Bayer to make those tackles. And then even if you
• 37:38
  want to get into the Bills heavy personnel looks, which I feel like everyone
• 37:42
  is like, yeah, like get the Bills in heavy personnel. I want
• 37:45
  to see them, you know, run duo again, let the ball roll
• 37:47
  off the table, get your running back one on one on the cornerback.
• 37:50
  Feel confident about that matchup because once again in the play action game, I
• 37:53
  mean like digs on one on one on anyone from those heavy sets is like
• 37:59
  is a win for the Bills, I think, and especially even in this
• 38:00
  matchup, like really unless it's pascertained or someone Obviously the Jets have two really
• 38:05
  good guys too, but I think like all those things married together like that
• 38:08
  is definitely a worry to meet on the Eagle side. And that's before even
• 38:13
  like I think the lesser part of the Eagles defense is actually is like is
• 38:16
  pretty clearly their secondary. So if you're a team that the way that you
• 38:20
  run the ball is something that can be effective against this Eagles defense. At
• 38:23
  the same time, there are a lot of times and even against the Chiefs,
• 38:28
  where everything looks good and then you have like Jalen Carter just just totally
• 38:32
  wipe out a guard. It becomes a tackle for a loss. You're in
• 38:35
  second and twelve. Now you're kind of reeling. You get into third and
• 38:37
  eight, and you know the defense is able to kind of party from there.
• 38:40
  So it's gonna be interesting, like, like what are the early downs
• 38:44
  look like? Is it just runs on early downs? Like are they confident
• 38:45
  enough to run on third and five and then go forward on fourth and one?
• 38:50
  Which, like, the Eagles have the the immense privilege of being able
• 38:52
  to do that every single time. But I think I think you bring up
• 38:54
  a good point, and then as much as we say like, okay,
• 38:57
  the running backs versus them like Josh Allen, even if you just like like
• 39:01
  if he had zero Carris, he has such an impact on that run game,
• 39:05
  Like you can't just bail if you're a defense. Then if you're a
• 39:07
  linebacker, you're gonna feel a little bit nervous because you got, you know,
• 39:09
  Captain America running at you. So that's not a way. That's not
• 39:13
  always fun I think for the defense. But like of the run games that
• 39:16
  I think the Eagles have faced this year, the Eagle or the Bills fall
• 39:20
  in line with the run games where I'm like, oh, like, that's
• 39:22
  not like what you would love to see kind of on the Eagle side.
• 39:25
  So I think that was a great point. I'm glad you bought that all
• 39:29
  up. Thank you. I appreciate you saying kind things so about myself and
• 39:30
  my points. It matters to think you very much. And you know it's
• 39:34
  funny too, like the I focus on the non Josh Allen run game because
• 39:38
  I think so much of the time when you say the Bills run game,
• 39:40
  people just on automatically assume. Well, yeah, like cause they am Allen's
• 39:44
  design runs or Josh Allen scrambling, and so I think like that can get
• 39:46
  convoluted. But also we haven't been seeing him run that much this year,
• 39:51
  whether by design or with the scrambles, and we saw a little more of
• 39:53
  it this past week against the Jets. My take on it all year,
• 39:59
  I thought they were trying to keep Josh in the stable a little bit and
• 40:00
  trying to use that run game as like the break glass in case of emergency
• 40:05
  piece and trying to unload it later in the year. But this game might
• 40:08
  be one of those where you know, get like, like I mentioned in
• 40:12
  the intro, like each one of these games is almost kind of like a
• 40:14
  must win and a break glass in case of emergency piece, and maybe that's
• 40:17
  you know, kind of the tipping point. I love what you mentioned with
• 40:21
  the gun pieces against the Eagles looks because I and I don't want to get
• 40:23
  too into too much of it because it relates to another one of my points.
• 40:27
  But yeah, like what they what the Bills do out of gun even
• 40:30
  with duo, which I know some narratives or that the Bills suck at running
• 40:32
  duo out of gun, which is not true. But when they run that
• 40:36
  tackle wrap in dart play out of gun like, it just works for him
• 40:38
  even and then the Jets, the Jets started snuffing it out and so they
• 40:43
  would overcommit to that front side where Dion Dawkins was pulling and CJ. Mosley
• 40:45
  is crashing and just there's everybody squeezing the front side and they're working through the
• 40:50
  backside. They got the Bills really good, like adjusting to it like that,
• 40:53
  and then the Bills did it again. The Jets adjusted, Cook stayed
• 40:57
  patient and he cut it all the way back to the left side to like
• 41:00
  the opposite side sea gap and bust it off like a fifteen yard run.
• 41:02
  So they've got that ability to adjust. You mentioned a piece that I do.
• 41:07
  Let me keep it for my next point. I want to keep it
• 41:09
  in the stable, keep them gonna keep that point in that. Don't want
• 41:12
  to give too much away. All right, So we've each gone through our
• 41:13
  first points. I'm really enjoying this conversation. I hope you are as well.
• 41:16
  What do you got for your next point? All right? So my
• 41:19
  next one is gonna be I feel like you know, I keep thinking about
• 41:22
  Bill's offense versus Eagles defense. Maybe you know, well, well obviously both
• 41:24
  of us will watch both sides of the film, but maybe just like more
• 41:28
  questions kind of that's where you think the stematic funnill happen. But to me,
• 41:30
  it's like clear shak here versus Bradley rob or insert whatever slot defender you
• 41:36
  have there. I think I've been looking at like the snab counts for a
• 41:38
  clear streak here. I don't think he's like like he's not out snapping Aby
• 41:43
  Davis yet, is that is? That is correct? He's been getting more
• 41:45
  burn, but he's building up. You get to see those those big four
• 41:50
  receptions for one hundred yards. The Eagles in the secondary are like are have
• 41:54
  been so banged up. They have had I think at least like five different
• 41:59
  guys in the slot from Avantie Alex their starter, they try and get like
• 42:02
  Sidney Brown another guy in there. They try, and you know, now
• 42:06
  you have a free agent, Like if your defense is built around you know,
• 42:09
  like thirty one year old free agents, that's like not always what you
• 42:13
  want and what you love. And also just like a commentary on the Nickel
• 42:15
  position in general, it's just too hard. It's way too hard. There's
• 42:19
  like a lot of position. I think linebackers like this too. But if
• 42:21
  you're a nickel cornerback, the receiver has a two weigo, they can go
• 42:24
  vertical past you. Then sometimes you gotta fit in the run game. It's
• 42:28
  just too hard. I love that you say that, Like nickel corners or
• 42:32
  slot corners, however you want to label them, apex defenders, whatever you
• 42:35
  have, you arguably have like the hardest position ever, like week in and
• 42:38
  week out on the defensive side of the ball, exactly for that point,
• 42:40
  Like, and then not to mention too, the skill sets and frames you're
• 42:44
  covering. Sometimes it's a pure slot receiver, sometimes it's the number one who's
• 42:46
  in the slot. Sometimes it's a tight end. And then yeah, you
• 42:50
  have to fit against the run in a multitude of ways. Like there's so
• 42:52
  much that is asked of you, and you are set up for failure at
• 42:54
  almost every turn. Yeah, they're like the cornerback in general is I think
• 42:59
  it's really difficult. I do think the Eagles like they are going to do.
• 43:01
  I would guess just based on you know, I thought they played the
• 43:04
  Dolphins really well. I think they are they played justin Jefferson like positionally fairly
• 43:08
  well, but Jefferson was able to eat in different ways even when he was
• 43:12
  covered. I think Shauna say, the Eagles defensive coordinator is going to have
• 43:15
  at least a good plan in place, depends on the execution for Steph Diggs.
• 43:20
  I feel like fairly confident based on what we've seen through eleven weeks of
• 43:23
  the season that this is a defensive coordinator. He's not too proud. He's
• 43:25
  not going to put players on islands. He's not going to address them.
• 43:29
  He's not going to make their life harder than it needs to be, especially
• 43:31
  when Diggs is just like you know, he's one of a handful of receivers
• 43:35
  that you want to you want to or you don't want to have to face.
• 43:37
  Yeah, So that's where it feels like, like yesterday we see that
• 43:42
  big drop where it's like like NBS, that's a touchdown right from from Patrick
• 43:46
  Mahomes like drop like hands it to him right. So those are situations where
• 43:52
  to me, the defense is rotating in a specific way to make sure you
• 43:54
  double team Travis Kelcey. Now you're going to vacate, And I think on
• 43:58
  that play like they had their safety kind of like spy ish on Mahomes and
• 44:01
  like you can see in my mind all those things happening against Josh Allen.
• 44:06
  You want a double receiver, you want to have a fast guy spying.
• 44:07
  You don't want to just spy with your like inside defensive that because Alan is
• 44:10
  a real athlete, and that leaves your nickel on a rail reil island.
• 44:16
  So I'm honestly the Bills watch that day run that same exact play, like
• 44:20
  let's let's see that. But now I think brings it to the other point
• 44:23
  where the Eagles defense like should not I don't think treat it like the Chiefs
• 44:29
  were, because they pressed the Chiefs in such a way that was like beat
• 44:31
  me with your second receiver, beating with your third receiver. We don't trust
• 44:35
  your ability to like be on the same page down the field. I feel
• 44:38
  a lot less like comfortable with that against the Bills, where you have alan
• 44:44
  able to really just like pinballs on respiers where it feels like you're not allowed
• 44:47
  to drop it because like the ball is gonna like flame through your hands,
• 44:51
  so you have to like stop it at like a safety measure. So I
• 44:53
  want to see what like you know, is it time for us to just
• 44:57
  keep banging the close care bandwagon? We you know what thoughts on chick Heir
• 45:00
  in general and kind of his his spot in your Guys offense. You know,
• 45:05
  I loved him so much coming out of Boise State. I just thought,
• 45:07
  what one I love the value like where he was drafted. I thought
• 45:09
  he would go. I thought he could go as early as day two or
• 45:13
  at the very like worst like early day three. And the fact that he
• 45:15
  lasted until the fifth I was shocked. I just think he operates with a
• 45:22
  lot of nuance and craftiness in his route running. He operates with deception,
• 45:25
  He understands leverage, his ability to understand, like his ability to like know
• 45:35
  like versus the corner like no, like I know what you know? I
• 45:38
  know that you know that I know what you know? And then his ability
• 45:42
  to use that to manipulate leverage in space. You know, he's he's been
• 45:46
  really good on option routes for this for this team this year, understanding coverages
• 45:51
  and reading things post snap and working in tandem and in rhythm with Josh Allen.
• 45:54
  And then you've seen some of that yard after catch piece which he showed
• 45:58
  at Boise State. I wanted him to get involved more in the offense last
• 46:00
  year. I thought he could have been some kind of, you know,
• 46:05
  pressure alleviator for this offense. Didn't happen last year, and we've seen him
• 46:09
  get included a bit more into the lineup week after week after week. I
• 46:15
  like him. I'm a fan of his game. You know, just to
• 46:16
  have that type of again, that craftiness and that nuance mixed with that athleticism,
• 46:22
  I don't think it's something you see regularly at that position. He had
• 46:27
  a rep against the Bengals. They were in two by two and Bengals ended
• 46:32
  up running man coverage and they'll run this option route off of it depending on
• 46:37
  the leverage, So Gabe Davis will like take it vertical and then depending on
• 46:40
  if its manners Owe Shakiro like cut it inside. I kind of like a
• 46:43
  follow route type of thing. Or he'll continue on a wheel up the field,
• 46:46
  or he'll turn it into a sit a deep set. If you're playing
• 46:49
  off and the Bengals are in straight man, Hilton doesn't get caught in the
• 46:52
  traffic, doesn't get caught in the wash, and he comes up on a
• 46:54
  Shakir and Shakir hits him with this hesitation and sell it like he's gonna go
• 47:00
  inside. Completely breaks down Mike Hilton in terms of turns of wobbly need and
• 47:06
  then gets right back up the field on the wheel and all it drops it
• 47:08
  into him or Alan drops it into him. And for my money, I
• 47:12
  love Taron Johnson for the Bills. I also really like Kenny Moore for the
• 47:15
  Colts. But for my money, Mike Hilton is the best slock corner in
• 47:17
  the entire NFL. He is phenomenal and shakier like Shaki. This isn't me
• 47:22
  saying it because I like the Bills. Shakir like owned him on this rep
• 47:27
  and seeing that from a second year receiver, and it wasn't just because like,
• 47:30
  oh, well he's strong or he's fast or he's big. He did
• 47:32
  it with technique and he did it with nuance, and that to me was
• 47:36
  very much like ooh, like this guy's putting it together. So I'm a
• 47:38
  fan of his game. One thousand percent. Yeah, I think that this
• 47:42
  is a game where you know, when Josh Allen well especially, I think
• 47:45
  you guys run a lot where like you're outside vertical inside choice or you know,
• 47:49
  maybe this even a predetermined outbreaker, Like I feel like it's gonna be
• 47:52
  a game where Alan's gonna be able to stuff some of those throws in there.
• 47:54
  I think like the Eagles at the safe position have Reid blank Ship and
• 47:59
  Kevin Bayer, who you know again, Buyer is another player where he's at
• 48:01
  a different phase of his career. It's not you know his for his like
• 48:05
  first second and third you're in the league, he's actually you know what,
• 48:07
  I feel like I now have to am I am I slandering Kevin Bayer for
• 48:10
  for being old. I don't ever want to slander anything. Okay, thirty,
• 48:15
  he's thirty, which is not I know, I know he's at least
• 48:16
  thirty. Yeah, but like it's very clear that like, okay, like
• 48:20
  he has played with the Titans that had really really high level, he might
• 48:23
  not be at that exact high level. I will say he got the Travis
• 48:27
  Kelcey matchup, and you know, did I think admirable in that spot.
• 48:30
  It still it's a situation where in this game, I would imagine you get
• 48:34
  if you're the Eagles, you get to a lot more of those split safety
• 48:36
  looks, and then that puts a lot of pressure on your underneath defenders,
• 48:39
  especially you know, they'll play a ton of half to one side, quarters
• 48:43
  to the other side, like that still makes life really hard on your linebackers.
• 48:45
  So I think that I love that you mentioned, you know, like
• 48:49
  Ratt Nuance. I think sometimes we just look at all right, I know
• 48:52
  we try not to, but it's like, all right, well, this
• 48:52
  player is fast, but like how you play and how you get in and
• 48:55
  out of those custs is so so so important. I think that's something that
• 49:00
  you know, like the game Davis, like post is stuck in my head
• 49:02
  against the Chiefs, it will always be just because of how amazing it is,
• 49:06
  and you obviously hope that you know, he's able to just you know,
• 49:08
  get to whatever level of production I think Bills fans are really hoping for.
• 49:13
  But even like thinking overall, just like the receiver room versus the defensive
• 49:15
  back room, Like I think that's such an advantage for the Bills, where
• 49:20
  the Eagles cornerbacks like they are so married to that rush, that connection of
• 49:24
  Russian coverage, like they as defensive backs understand quarterbacks are not really gonna have
• 49:30
  a ton of time there because more often than not, Reddick's gonna get around
• 49:32
  the edge or Cox's gonna be able to push, push through the middle and
• 49:36
  get to the quarterbacks. So they play aggressive and specific ways where you could
• 49:39
  absolutely beat them on a double move. We've seen it multiple times this year.
• 49:43
  Teams try it and then it not. It not worked because of whatever
• 49:46
  kind of pressure there. But I mean, I'd love to see really early
• 49:50
  on, like get Steph Diggs on a slant and go like even taking it
• 49:52
  away from close shake care, like those defensive backs want to get their hands
• 49:57
  on the ball knowing that quarter not gonna have forever. And then I haven't
• 50:01
  even start talking about, like, well what happens when Josh Allen extends to
• 50:04
  play. That's like when I think Eagles fans collectively are just gonna like that.
• 50:08
  You're gonna like feel them age and then you can just like suck the
• 50:12
  life out of looking at financial field when you know you really can't. You
• 50:15
  just picture Alan rolling out on one of these throws. And I think that
• 50:17
  Eagles in general, like this week against the Chiefs was one of their better
• 50:21
  weeks in terms of just relating to routes in general. But as those seconds
• 50:25
  get to three seconds, four seconds, five seconds, especially the Cowboys just
• 50:30
  just really dat played really well on the move and outside the pocket, like
• 50:32
  that is something if you're an Eagles fan, that is not something that you
• 50:37
  want to see. So and I think that's a yeah, back to close
• 50:39
  scare thing. That's something that he's able to to do with Josh Allen as
• 50:43
  well. I love the point that you made about Dak Prescott, even though
• 50:45
  it's not involved in this matchup. Like I watched that game on broadcast,
• 50:49
  but going back and watching the tape, I didn't realize how many offscript,
• 50:52
  like out of structure, you know, on the move plays like he made.
• 50:57
  And you know, especially for a guy who is so methodical and so
• 51:00
  robotic in his progressions and decision making and everything, like to see him make
• 51:05
  those type of plays and then you're like, oh, well, if he
• 51:07
  can do that, imagine what Josh Allen can do considering his mobility and his
• 51:10
  athleticism. I like that point very much. And it also Allen has had
• 51:17
  so much of this offense, not just from an Allan perspective, but like
• 51:20
  from a concept standpoint, at least under Dorsey, so much of it was
• 51:22
  from from a route distribution standpoint, was option based and a lot of half
• 51:28
  field concepts for Allen, like, Okay, to the left is you know
• 51:30
  your cover two beater, to the right is your cover three beater, go
• 51:32
  out, read it, YadA, YadA. And then teams have been throwing
• 51:37
  so many, you know, disguis coverages on the back end, you know,
• 51:39
  pun intended with the show name and just spitting safeties and rock and roll
• 51:43
  and all that kind of stuff. But then the amount of simulated and creepers
• 51:45
  and things that come through and the front is disguised along with the back end,
• 51:49
  that's really thrown a wrench into the bills. Receivers reading everything and reading
• 51:53
  the pre to post snap picture, understanding what coverage it is, understanding the
• 51:58
  leverage, running the right route with the right timing, Alan seeing it at
• 52:01
  the right time and hitting it, and the decision making and all of it.
• 52:06
  It's throwing such a wrench into it. And so I'm interested to see,
• 52:08
  you know, yeah, how many like split field coverages do the Eagles
• 52:12
  play, Like what do they roll into? What do they do to confuse
• 52:15
  or you know, try and add beats to Josh Allen's drop back and is
• 52:19
  it just Allen, you know, is like screw it. I'm going to
• 52:21
  tuck in and run and make a play out of structure. How much instructure
• 52:23
  do the Eagles win from a coverage standpoint, because, like you said,
• 52:27
  they are so scheme versatile on the back end with what they can play,
• 52:30
  like playing like a bunch of like almost every single coverage and they can get
• 52:34
  to And I wonder how that ties into the struggles we've seen from Josh Allen
• 52:38
  and this Bills off and so far. I like that piece a lot,
• 52:42
  you know, since you talked about the front, I'll go with my other
• 52:44
  piece here that's related to the Eagles defense. So this one is kind of
• 52:49
  I don't think two niche, but it is pretty specific. So I went,
• 52:52
  it's very long, like any odd front look from the Eagles that covers
• 52:57
  up the center. So it could be type fromt and it could be beare
• 53:00
  any type of anything could be like though those you know, those five to
• 53:02
  one penny fronts you talked about, like anything that covers up Mitch Morse,
• 53:07
  that covers up the center for this Bill's offense. So Mitch Morse is one
• 53:09
  of the best movement centers in all the football. Full blocks, skip poles,
• 53:15
  pop sets, climb into the second level. You get him on the
• 53:17
  move and or get him in space, and he really shines. He's ironically
• 53:22
  similar to you know, Jason Kelce in a lot of ways for the Eagles,
• 53:24
  who just continues to crush out in space with his movement to Bill.
• 53:28
  You know, I think Kelsey's a better center. He's one of the best,
• 53:30
  honestly, like ever. But Morse really shines in space in a multitude
• 53:34
  of ways. He's tremendously intelligent, strong at setting protections, iding fronts,
• 53:39
  communication, providing support. Where he struggles is against power and against strength,
• 53:45
  which is something that the Eagles have a multitude of on their interior with Fletcher
• 53:51
  Cox, with Jalen Carter, with Jordan Davis like and he struggles with power
• 53:55
  and strength, especially when it comes downhill right at him, and he struggles
• 54:00
  with it in pass pro and against the run. You can drive him into
• 54:04
  the lap of the quarterback or create displacement versus the run by putting someone with
• 54:08
  power or strength head upon him, or even in four down fronts, if
• 54:14
  you spike at him, you can collapse and cave almost an entire side of
• 54:17
  the line just by getting at him with that right angle. So if you
• 54:21
  want to, you know, I don't know, run some kind of two
• 54:22
  man game and you're cutting inside and you can just get into him with some
• 54:25
  speed to power boom, you can drive him and knock him out. Also,
• 54:30
  by covering up the center, you know this, you can kind of
• 54:32
  dictate protection to the offense and create those kind of man on man five to
• 54:36
  zero protections from the offensive line that then stresses the guards by putting them in
• 54:40
  one on one pass protection scenarios. And with the Eagles, you know,
• 54:44
  ability to rush the passer. That to me is terrifying. And whether you
• 54:49
  have the guards lined up on the inside against traditional interior players like Jalen Carter
• 54:53
  or like Fletcher Cox, or like Milton Williams, who is a good football
• 54:59
  player, or if you want to get a little spicy and maybe kicking Hassan
• 55:02
  Reddick on the inside or kicking Josh Sweat on the inside, potentially they have
• 55:07
  the ability just from an alignment perspective to cause the Bills problems from a pass
• 55:12
  protection standpoint and from a run game standpoint, just by going into odd front
• 55:17
  looks, just by covering up the center, especially if you put Jordan Davis
• 55:21
  there, like there's just there's so many ways in which they can cause problems
• 55:23
  that this also ties into my previous point earlier about the run game. Like
• 55:28
  you've got Connor McGovern on the left of Mitch Moore's athletic you know, good,
• 55:32
  good on the move, good in space, similar to Mitch Morris.
• 55:35
  A bit isn't this big strong, people mover kind of guy. Olxirus Torrance
• 55:39
  kind of had the opposite rookie right guard from Florida for the Bills, Big
• 55:44
  strong, vice grip hands. He's a people mover. He's been better in
• 55:47
  space and climbing to the second level this year since he kind of trimmed down
• 55:52
  coming into camp and playing in a lighter weight than he did at Florida.
• 55:53
  But you have different skill sets at the right guard position and different play styles
• 55:58
  at the right guard versus the left guard position. So also if you cover
• 56:01
  up that center and you want to go you know, again with those five
• 56:04
  to one fronts, you want to go tight. You know you got a
• 56:07
  four E and then a nose and then a four I. You create those
• 56:12
  opportunities for the guards to falter, Like is Osiren's Torrents quick enough to get
• 56:15
  across the face? Is Connor mcgovernern strong enough to pin somebody down and go
• 56:20
  through. Then that also ties into a point you mentioned earlier where sometimes you
• 56:23
  could have a really good scheme cooked up and Jalen Carter rexit or Jordan Davis
• 56:28
  rexit or Fletcher Cox rexit. And that's just in regular at any point that
• 56:32
  can happen at the drop of a hat, like they can beat you with
• 56:35
  talent. But I think from a schematic standpoint, operating especially on early downs,
• 56:40
  going with those looks and dictating protection, even if you want to go
• 56:45
  with it on third down and just we're going to go five down, We're
• 56:49
  going to create a five to zero protection and man on man and we think
• 56:52
  our guys are better than your guys in one on one scenarios, and we're
• 56:57
  going to test you and see what can happen. And I worry about that.
• 56:59
  I worry for the depth of the pocket for the Bills in this game.
• 57:04
  And if they can control it, that's fantastic, But I think they're
• 57:07
  going to have to help out upfront. And if the Eagles, again,
• 57:10
  if they just line up somebody with strength and power, which they have a
• 57:13
  bunch of dudes that can do that, head up on Mitch Morse. It
• 57:15
  can cause problems in a multitude of ways, let alone the schematic perspective of
• 57:19
  dictating protection. And then it's just players making plays like dudes going one on
• 57:23
  one. Do you win your matchup or do you not? And that's a
• 57:25
  stressful situation to be up against a front like the Eagles who can consistently rotate
• 57:31
  dudes in get pressures, they can potentially game you up. Like there's a
• 57:35
  lot of potential there and so that's like, that's my niche kind of matchup
• 57:39
  piece. And also tied into that, Hassan Reddick off that right side against
• 57:43
  Spencer Brown, much maligned last year in the year before, he's been better
• 57:46
  at right tackle this year. But just with what Reddick is, like this
• 57:50
  combination of speed and bend and athleticism and technique and just what he can bring
• 57:54
  off the edge, the Bills have given Spencer Brown a bunch of health this
• 57:59
  year in premium matchups, like they provided a lot of Chip help against Max
• 58:01
  Crosby, gave them help against Washington against Sweat and Chase Young mainly against Sweat
• 58:07
  coming off that side. So do they have to keep it in Dalton k
• 58:10
  Kate ads some chip help. Do they not get as many running backs out
• 58:13
  into the route distribution because they want to help or you know, use a
• 58:15
  running back as a chipper to help Spencer Brown potentially as well. So that's
• 58:19
  kind of like my secondary piece within that matchup. But that first piece as
• 58:23
  just any type of odd front look covering up the center. You want to
• 58:27
  go five down, you're going tight whatever, like it can cause a lot
• 58:30
  of problems schematically for this Bill's offense in the past and in the run.
• 58:34
  Yeah, I wonder how much the Bills are able to just like formation the
• 58:37
  Eagles out of that because or I it's more personnel of them out of it,
• 58:42
  because I like there, I can't see them matching eleven personnel with base,
• 58:45
  Like the Bills are not a team that you stay in base to eleven
• 58:47
  personnel. They're just not. They can pass the ball too well, and
• 58:50
  their quarterback is to get their quarterbacks too quick. You're don't want you know,
• 58:52
  your edge de vendors in space on slots, especially when the Bills are
• 58:57
  able to put digs in the slot and move different guys around in those ways,
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  and something you know, the like the penny front and for the five
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  to one look, like your coverage menu is is pretty limited, Like there's
• 59:07
  not Yeah, there's not a ton of coverages that teams are running out of.
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  That and then your defensive end, your edge defender who like obviously Reddeck
• 59:15
  and Sweat, like those are guys that you want coming after the passer.
• 59:17
  A lot of times those guys have to end up dropping out and like,
• 59:21
  you know, I would rather have them attacking your right tackle every single time
• 59:23
  like that, that is what you would like. And then even further than
• 59:27
  that, like if you're the Eagles, I think you're fairly confident in your
• 59:30
  four down against most of the Bill's look, so it feels like the I
• 59:34
  love the five, Like let's get five guys on the line, let's mess
• 59:37
  you up, let's stunt you to death. Like that is something that the
• 59:39
  Eagles do. That's something they do well. I think they have multiple good
• 59:43
  five zero kind of packages where you'll see Reddick and Sweat kind of twisting in
• 59:46
  different ways where you know they can beat you coming straight at you, they
• 59:49
  can beat your guard. You're they're gonna expand your guard with their defensive tackle.
• 59:52
  They do a great job of that. But yeah, you know,
• 59:54
  I wonder like, like what's the response, Like I can't keep thinking about
• 59:59
  our good friend Josh Allen because you know, do you want to be in
• 1:00:01
  those five down fronts against Josh Allen where like you could have the best thing
• 1:00:06
  drawn up and he can just break the pocket then it doesn't matter, Like
• 1:00:07
  and especially you know most five down looks, if you're sending five, you're
• 1:00:12
  gonna play you know, three under three deep fire zone behind it, You're
• 1:00:14
  gonna play your cover one. Like that's really kind of all you're in.
• 1:00:16
  And you know what, I don't want Josh Allen like one on one against
• 1:00:21
  Zach Hunning, Like I trust Josh Allen in that matchup, and once you
• 1:00:23
  turn your back in man coverage, that's another place where Josh Allen is more
• 1:00:28
  than happening to take off. And then I mean, I don't love the
• 1:00:30
  Eagles matchups one on one on the outside either. So it feels like if
• 1:00:34
  I'm prioritizing things, it has to be to pass, like like that's like
• 1:00:37
  not not controversial at all. So to me, that like reduces the amount
• 1:00:40
  of five down fronts that you're popping in to get into, like you're probably
• 1:00:44
  gonna you know, lean into more nickel imagining that the Bill's played, you
• 1:00:46
  know, with a decent amount of eleven personnel. So I don't even a
• 1:00:51
  fun one. I love that, the full niche one. And I love
• 1:00:52
  when you mentioned you know, like you don't want to have power over him.
• 1:00:55
  And then I'm just thinking of of like the mammoth that is Jordan Davis
• 1:01:00
  just just pushing human beings over like like it is nothing like it is.
• 1:01:04
  It is so special and even like like smaller things like within zone running,
• 1:01:07
  like if you cover up the center, you're able to manipulate the double teams
• 1:01:10
  a little bit. It's another reason or a way that linebackers are able to
• 1:01:14
  stay kind of clean, especially like that four eye, like you're the inside
• 1:01:17
  shade of the tackle. It's just like a weird kind of technique for defense
• 1:01:22
  or for offenses to deal with, like your your guard tackle double team,
• 1:01:24
  like if that's your double that kind of gets like jammed up in a little
• 1:01:29
  bit. So and I think, like I hate to think of it,
• 1:01:30
  like oh yeah, it's so gamescript dependent, Like when I think of the
• 1:01:32
  Bills Dolphins game, the Bills are just like like so cleanly just scoring scoring,
• 1:01:37
  scoring, and that like reduces what your all the other team's offense does.
• 1:01:40
  But then the defense has to like be able to kind of fit in
• 1:01:44
  a certain way, like regardless of the score, I think the Eagles have
• 1:01:45
  to have to prioritize that pass kind of back and forth. I do you
• 1:01:50
  know the Eagles got into some like big dime looks this game because Nikobe Dean's
• 1:01:53
  out, so they're they're on. Like, however, however many linebackers you
• 1:01:58
  want to count? Now they have Cunningham and there, so like they're happy
• 1:02:00
  to have Sidney Brown, who's he's more of a downhill player. It's that
• 1:02:04
  you know, you got four linemen on the field, one linebacker, six
• 1:02:07
  defensive back, so they were able to get to there with their five down
• 1:02:10
  front. So maybe they feel a little bit better in pass coverage where it
• 1:02:14
  looks like a base defense, but you got a safety in a linebacker spot,
• 1:02:16
  so you're better in pass coverage. But yeah, I don't know.
• 1:02:21
  The more I keep thinking about it, like I think the Bills like are
• 1:02:23
  are going to be able to succeed on the ground, And I think I
• 1:02:27
  just have like a very pro like if your quarterback is involved in the run
• 1:02:30
  game, that's just like plus plus plus to me because like, yeah,
• 1:02:34
  if you can't block them, read them and Bills. The Bills are happy
• 1:02:37
  to do that, especially with like you if you get to watch the Bears
• 1:02:40
  Lions game, like justin Fields is a player where you can have a person
• 1:02:45
  right there and they can like he can make you, Alan will just runs
• 1:02:47
  right through you. And I for obviously, I want everyone to be safe
• 1:02:52
  and healthy and they get through the game, you know, full full speed
• 1:02:54
  and everything. But like like thinking of Josh Allen kind of running at like
• 1:02:58
  through Josh or a son Radik would be just just like a wild thing,
• 1:03:02
  just like stiff from them to the turf. And I'm gonna try it right
• 1:03:06
  like he's not. He's not gonna not He's not gonna not try it.
• 1:03:07
  So I I thought that was good. That was a really good one.
• 1:03:10
  Thinking about those five down fronts for the Eagles. I love the points that
• 1:03:14
  you brought up at Like I so in I didn't one hundred percent planet,
• 1:03:19
  but in my hopes of laying out this point, I was hoping you would
• 1:03:22
  lean too what the Eagles do when they go with those five down fronts or
• 1:03:25
  with those on fronts and they're and the the coverage limitations you have on the
• 1:03:30
  back end, because that sets up like the second part of it for me,
• 1:03:32
  like it's very kind of risk reward kind of play it at your at
• 1:03:37
  your own risk type of thing. But that's for both the Eagles and the
• 1:03:43
  Bills. Like, yes, it limits you from a coverage standpoint of the
• 1:03:45
  back end, so you can get gouged, but also you have the opportunity
• 1:03:50
  that you might be able to win up front in under two seconds and completely
• 1:03:52
  collapse the pocket. So do you care what's going on on the back end
• 1:03:57
  because you're just destroying everything in the trenches. Like it brings up this very
• 1:04:01
  like it's risky to go to that look, but also if you can win
• 1:04:04
  quickly, which is an if, but maybe not too big of an if
• 1:04:11
  for you to go to it. And I wonder how much do they go
• 1:04:14
  to it? How much do they test the cage? Is it an early
• 1:04:16
  down type of thing? Is it only when the Bills go with certain heavier
• 1:04:19
  looks? You know, especially with Dawson knocks out, do you not respect
• 1:04:23
  Quintin Morris as a pass catching threat? So you're cool doing it? When
• 1:04:26
  the Bills go into twelve. We're based on certain formational alignments or personnel groupings
• 1:04:30
  like whatever, Like when do you go to it, how do you get
• 1:04:32
  to it? Is it situational based or are you just playing that type of
• 1:04:36
  risk thing saying like hey, we know it kind of limits us on the
• 1:04:40
  back end, but we think we can do it right now on first and
• 1:04:43
  ten and turn the bills into second and fourteen, and then we can end
• 1:04:45
  up having them be in third and eight, third, nine, and we
• 1:04:47
  can get creative and test things further. Yeah, I feel like something that's
• 1:04:51
  hard to like remember or this I sometimes forget, like every single coverage has
• 1:04:57
  a weakness and really like every single front kind of tied to that, like
• 1:05:00
  there are ways to beat it, or like event like running the ball is
• 1:05:03
  an allocation like a resource allocation problem, Like I can put eleven guys on
• 1:05:08
  the line and stop your run. Obviously that's not the smartest thing because the
• 1:05:11
  offense is it'll have to pass the ball to, you know. Against the
• 1:05:14
  Chiefs, I was thinking, like, all right, well, the Dolphins
• 1:05:16
  they use like just regular t stunts against the Chiefs a decent amount of success.
• 1:05:20
  I think the Bengals used it like four or five times, I feel
• 1:05:25
  like against the Bills in their match. But I wonder is that something that
• 1:05:28
  the Eagles lean into where I think that they just prefer to have reddick and
• 1:05:30
  sweat kind of rush straight where I love that t stunt because I think it's
• 1:05:34
  a way to like you're forcing the quarterback to step up into a defensive end
• 1:05:39
  that's coming there. So I don't think the Eagles used as much pocket manipulation
• 1:05:44
  as maybe I was expecting, and they're able to win the game. Who
• 1:05:45
  cares, right, But I wonder if you know, against Allen, who
• 1:05:49
  I think it's fair to say is more of a running threat than Mahomes,
• 1:05:53
  and Mahomes is able to extend play is fairly consistently, partially because of everything
• 1:05:57
  issues from the receivers, but like when Alan does it, it feels like,
• 1:06:00
  okay, that ball's getting thrown six yards down the field or that's like
• 1:06:02
  it's going to become a twenty yard run, like uh, I mean going
• 1:06:05
  turning back time all the way to the Vikings game from last year, it
• 1:06:09
  felt like it was so many third downs for Allen he can just go ahead
• 1:06:12
  and just run and pick it up. So I think that that's something that
• 1:06:15
  like it's it's gonna be more differently and even like say the Eagles just sit
• 1:06:18
  in zone coverage like because they have to kind of based on off front if
• 1:06:23
  they don't want to play man coverage behind it, Like I mean, Alan's
• 1:06:25
  able to beat those guys in space. So it's it's such a like,
• 1:06:28
  oh, we love I know both of us love talking about scheme like it
• 1:06:30
  comes so like so much. It comes down to like is the player able
• 1:06:33
  to make the tackle in the spot? Like can the Eagles force a fumble
• 1:06:36
  against Josh Allen? No, I would obviously love to see that. I
• 1:06:40
  think other people listening probably wouldn't wouldn't want to see that. But that's a
• 1:06:43
  situation where the Eagles, like their turnover lock through the year has been I
• 1:06:46
  think, relatively bad, like they're they're probably going to regress to the mean
• 1:06:50
  a little bit on that and you know, maybe you know, maybe we
• 1:06:54
  see a bunch of those on Sunday in the middle of the day. I
• 1:06:57
  love the stump piece that you mentioned, especially on the right side that since
• 1:07:00
  n Enny Game is a good example, so Spencer Brown at right tackle,
• 1:07:02
  Cyrus Tornents to right guard. They've worked well together. It's from a communication
• 1:07:06
  standpoint and effective a stampoint. Going back to the preseason, but we've seen
• 1:07:10
  them really these past several weeks. They've struggled against just basic two man games
• 1:07:15
  and you nailed it, like that te stunt, that text stunt, however
• 1:07:17
  you want to label it whatever. Like they can get gamed up to the
• 1:07:20
  point where it's not even like they're vulnerable and the integrity is threatened. It's
• 1:07:26
  like, no, somebody is coming clean through that A gap to the right
• 1:07:29
  side because Torrent's committed too far to the right and he got driven through and
• 1:07:33
  your edge has taken out both of them, or I'm sorry, yeah,
• 1:07:36
  that edge is taken or that tackles taken him out and that edge is looping
• 1:07:40
  back through and he's completely clean. And and tying that in with certain pressures
• 1:07:46
  where you can get upfield from the interior and then take your edges and loop
• 1:07:51
  them back inside kind of like quasi spies a little bit, almost like baiting
• 1:07:56
  Josh Allen to be like, hey man, look at the B gap or
• 1:07:58
  the A gap. It's wide open. Don't you want to step up into
• 1:08:00
  that. It's like, no, you don't, because we loop sweat and
• 1:08:03
  reddick back in to kind of bait you into that thing. New England did
• 1:08:05
  that a bunch and it worked well. But yeah, that that two man
• 1:08:09
  game aspect, especially on the right side, you can win in both ways.
• 1:08:13
  You want to put the edges of the spiker cool, you want to
• 1:08:15
  put the tackle as the spiker cool. You can game up that right side
• 1:08:18
  and really stress the efficiency in communication and in execution between o Cyrus towards and
• 1:08:25
  Spencer Brown. Oh, this is a I like this conversation. I mean
• 1:08:28
  I knew I would, but this is very good. That was a really
• 1:08:29
  good point you brought up and we tied it together. All right, your
• 1:08:32
  last one, your third one? What do you got? I think we
• 1:08:35
  gotta I know, I feel like we would. We could bring up six
• 1:08:39
  points where it's Eagles defense will go Eagles offense. I think that you got
• 1:08:44
  to be spoken about, like what is the Bill's plan for a j Brown
• 1:08:48
  first and foremost and then Devonte's so just the Bill secondary really as a whole,
• 1:08:53
  really the linebackers, really every single person on the staff, Like how
• 1:08:56
  do you deal with the Eagles receivers? Because there are times when you watch
• 1:09:00
  the Eagles offense, and like it could kind of feel uninspired sometimes, like
• 1:09:03
  I'm not gonna lie. I think that I'm biased towards teams that do fancy
• 1:09:08
  schmancy things, and you do not have to be that. The Eagles are
• 1:09:11
  a prime example of that. Like I said, we kind of said at
• 1:09:14
  the top, like Ajan Brown is better than your receiver, are better than
• 1:09:16
  your cornerback. He's gonna run a five and in and then he's gonna run
• 1:09:18
  a vertical. He's probably gonna catch both. One of those is gonna be
• 1:09:21
  a touchdown. And that's just like such an unfortunate true four defenses and then
• 1:09:27
  whenever teams are really really devoted and resources to him. Devonte Smith the last
• 1:09:30
  two games, i think, last two games in a row, he's had
• 1:09:31
  ninety nine yards, so let's get him across the century mark. But he
• 1:09:34
  is just such a detailed route runner. So he's like a funny kind of
• 1:09:38
  compliment to aj Brown, where he's also able to make really really great catches
• 1:09:42
  down the field. He had an awesome one against the Cowboys, he had
• 1:09:44
  a really nice one in a huge, huge moment against the Chiefs. And
• 1:09:46
  like it, sometimes it doesn't matter if you bottle up the Eagles on early
• 1:09:50
  downs because Hertz like is more than happy to check into vertical routes. He
• 1:09:55
  wants to take those shots like that is his attitude consistently We've seen through the
• 1:09:59
  year, like he will throw the ball into into some kind of like like
• 1:10:02
  two maybe even three guys because he trusts his players. Where you have Ajer
• 1:10:06
  Brown making that just nuts catch in the end zone against Kansas City and the
• 1:10:10
  Super Bowl last year. So he's confident in that probably because you should be.
• 1:10:14
  So I don't know, like I mean that obviously Bills have like tough
• 1:10:16
  injuries at the linebacker and the cornerback spot. I don't think any secondary matches
• 1:10:20
  up particularly well with these guys. I will say that, like you mentioned,
• 1:10:25
  Dallas Goddard being out is just like is a big deal across the board.
• 1:10:28
  He's an incredible run block or incredible but he is a plus run blocker
• 1:10:30
  and he's shown up for the Eagles, but really like attack in the middle
• 1:10:33
  of the field. He's been able to do that kind of consistently and and
• 1:10:36
  he's just like flat out just a top five tight end in the league.
• 1:10:40
  So having that player be out is a big, big deal and then they
• 1:10:44
  had another tight end get hurt against the Chiefs. So I mean, I
• 1:10:46
  don't know, I don't know what any defense does against Brown and Smith.
• 1:10:50
  I feel like sometimes I would just be like, look like let me,
• 1:10:53
  let's like double both of them, and then like the Chiefs will double,
• 1:10:55
  like double double, They'll double two guys in different ways. But then like
• 1:10:59
  the Eels are more than happy to run the ball for like fifteen play straight
• 1:11:01
  and so it's it's like a it's just such an issue overall. But I
• 1:11:05
  mean, imagine, right the Bills play like a decent amount of cover two.
• 1:11:09
  You you'll see a bunch of that and that that hurts this particularly struggle
• 1:11:12
  with it. But yeah, just like as a philosophy from a defense,
• 1:11:15
  like let's put a roof over you make you constantly make the right decision over
• 1:11:17
  and over. But that's not gonna matter if the Eagles are able to just
• 1:11:20
  kind of run inside and attack. But we'll go back to the start there.
• 1:11:25
  I'm thinking, like Aja Brown, de Vonda Smith versus your cornerback,
• 1:11:28
  what is in that cornerback two, cornerback three? And obviously whoever gets up
• 1:11:31
  in the slot there. This is very related almost very similar to my third
• 1:11:36
  point here, I just so I just labeled it. Can the Bills defense
• 1:11:40
  make the Eagles offense one dimensional? But it's tied into a lot of those
• 1:11:44
  points from a significant standpoint socially, from a Bill's cover standpoint, So real
• 1:11:46
  quick, for everybody in the Eagles offense right now, overall their fifth and
• 1:11:51
  EPA per play sixth and success rate sixth and drop back EPA eleventh and drop
• 1:11:56
  back success rate fifth and rushing EPA fourth and rush EPA per attempt third and
• 1:12:00
  positive play percentage on the ground third and rushing success rate sixth overall in DVA,
• 1:12:06
  ninth in the past fifth in the rush their percentage of runs hit at
• 1:12:12
  the line of scrimmage they have the third lowest of thirty five point one percent.
• 1:12:15
  Again shout out to that offensive line and stuff percentage they have the fourth
• 1:12:18
  lowest at thirteen point nine percent. They're just like we talked about in the
• 1:12:24
  lead into this episode, right the versatility, the balance they have. They
• 1:12:28
  can beat you in the air with underneath stuff or any intermediate stuff or deep
• 1:12:31
  stuff. They can beat you on the ground in a multitude of ways.
• 1:12:33
  They can beat you either or whatever. They want to do. They have
• 1:12:36
  the capability and the capacity to beat you in so many ways because of the
• 1:12:41
  balance they have between the run and the past. Even with Hurts being banged
• 1:12:44
  up. You can see it on Monday night for everybody who watched it.
• 1:12:46
  I'm confused too. The holiday has completely thrown me off, like forgetting that
• 1:12:49
  last night was Monday night. Even with Hurts banged up, he still presented
• 1:12:54
  a threat. And there were key moments when they were running that QB draw
• 1:12:57
  early on and late in the game to kind of steal things and help things
• 1:12:59
  a bit, like his scrambling game wasn't necessarily there, but he can still
• 1:13:01
  get it going with the design runs. Like even with Hurts banged up,
• 1:13:04
  they still present a threat there. Their past game, like I said,
• 1:13:08
  can beat you vertically, they can beat you underneath. They can generate explosives
• 1:13:11
  with downfield shots like the one to DeVonta Smith or some of the and Hurts
• 1:13:15
  just even when he's having a game where he's kind of scattered and inefficient.
• 1:13:18
  You know, I know that Devanta Smith one maybe like hung up there a
• 1:13:20
  little bit and he had to come back for it, but he just he
• 1:13:23
  will unlaunch unlaunch some of like the prettiest dimes downfield, the one against the
• 1:13:28
  Cowboys. I'm thinking to AJ Brown in that going from left to right,
• 1:13:32
  just that Smith, Yeah, Smith in the kind of left corner ends zop.
• 1:13:36
  Yes. But you're thinking about the AJ Brown one hand catch against the
• 1:13:40
  Commanders, like, how how do they keep doing like it doesn't it doesn't,
• 1:13:43
  it doesn't, it doesn't. It doesn't make sense. It's not fair
• 1:13:45
  like and for them to do that, they can again. They can beat
• 1:13:48
  you in so many ways, Like you want to just generate an explosive with
• 1:13:51
  like air yards and a downfield shot, cool, or just dump it down
• 1:13:55
  to DeVonta Smith on a little smoke screen or tunnel screen to let him work.
• 1:13:57
  Or AJ Brown same thing and running five yards and having turned it into
• 1:14:00
  a thirty yard game. There's so many ways for you to die versus the
• 1:14:03
  Eagles offense. And I worry with daike One Jones being out. You and
• 1:14:09
  I were talking about it in the DMS on Sunday. With the injuries that
• 1:14:12
  this defense has had, particularly dayke Onon Jones and Matt Malano, I worry
• 1:14:15
  if the Bills can consistently fit the run without bringing a safety down and having
• 1:14:19
  to commit more to the box. And you know we're talking about it with
• 1:14:23
  regards to the Eagles defense with the previous topic, but you know a certain
• 1:14:28
  point defense in football sometimes it's just math, right, And if you have
• 1:14:30
  to commit more to stopping the run, that's less that you can use when
• 1:14:34
  it comes to providing against the path. That's less numbers you have in coverage
• 1:14:38
  if you have to commit towards the run, and then there's less games you
• 1:14:41
  can play if you have to spin a safety down early or commit that safety
• 1:14:44
  to the box. It's just basic. You know, how you fit the
• 1:14:46
  run determines the coverages that you can play. And if you're bringing a safety
• 1:14:50
  down, you have less coverage responsibility or less coverage possibilities. But then also
• 1:14:56
  your corners get put on an island more because if you're running SAE go high
• 1:15:00
  coverage is cool, you're running Cover three, you're running Cover one. Even
• 1:15:01
  though Cover three is zwn, it's still functioning like man to a degree.
• 1:15:04
  There if you are out there on that island one on one, and like
• 1:15:08
  you said, you're out there on an island against a J. Brown and
• 1:15:11
  against DeVonta Smith, who Smith is a burner but I love that you mentioned
• 1:15:15
  the route running piece, and it was one of the reasons that I thought,
• 1:15:17
  despite like the skeletal frame that he had coming out of Bama, the
• 1:15:21
  speed combined with the precision like he was such a good route runner. I
• 1:15:25
  felt similarly to him. Different level of prospect though that I did with tanked
• 1:15:30
  Out coming out of Houston this year. Like I know, he was small
• 1:15:31
  and an outlier, more of an outlier than DeVonta Smith, not even close,
• 1:15:35
  But there was so much polish and refinement to his game from a route
• 1:15:40
  running standpoint and technicality standpoint. That's why I felt about Smith. And so
• 1:15:44
  going up against one of those dudes is one on one and it is a
• 1:15:47
  death sentence. Not being able to slow down or stop the run versus Philly
• 1:15:50
  is also a death sentence, and that's also why I think Russell Douglas with
• 1:15:55
  the Bills got from green Bay, traded a third for him and a fifth
• 1:15:59
  tremendous value. He has been so strong for the Bills in his short tenure
• 1:16:01
  with the team thus far. Former Eagle also by the way, before he
• 1:16:04
  was in green Bay, he's one of the most important players of the Bills
• 1:16:09
  defense in this game because of his skill set, because of his frame,
• 1:16:12
  and how reliable he's been on the back end. He's been solid in man
• 1:16:15
  in match coverages, the zone eyes that he operates with his ability to maintain
• 1:16:18
  his responsibility, but then read routes through to the quarterback and jump routes and
• 1:16:24
  kind of fall off receivers who aren't going to get the ball on his ability
• 1:16:27
  to make the play on the ball. Because of it, he's been a
• 1:16:29
  tremendous ad and these Bills corners, I think are going to get put on
• 1:16:32
  islands in this game, especially on early downs, because I think the Bills
• 1:16:38
  are going to have to walk a safety down either pre snap or immediately post
• 1:16:41
  snap in order to fit the run like they're just I don't see them fitting
• 1:16:46
  the run consistently with a light box like with six defenders, or even if
• 1:16:50
  that seventh defender is Taron Johnson hopefully he's healthy for the Bills, but I
• 1:16:55
  just don't see them regularly fitting the run against the Eagles with the run game
• 1:16:59
  that they have in terms of the versatility and effectiveness combined with how strong they
• 1:17:03
  are from an execution standpoint, in addition to their skill set and frame up
• 1:17:08
  front. I don't see the Bills regularly fitting the run with a light box
• 1:17:12
  without giving up like six yards a clip, and so they're gonna have to
• 1:17:15
  spin a safety down. They can try and hide it and do it on
• 1:17:17
  the snap, but I think they're gonna have to commit early on, and
• 1:17:20
  then it puts those corners on those islands in one on ones, and then
• 1:17:24
  it ties to your point of all right, cool, I'm Jalen Hurts.
• 1:17:28
  I think AJ Brown is better than whoever's out there, or I think DeVonta
• 1:17:30
  Smith is better than whoever out there. Cool. Let me see which one
• 1:17:32
  of them gets the better one on one matchup, and I'm chucking it and
• 1:17:35
  we'll see what happens. Yeah. I think that offenses like they earn their
• 1:17:41
  one high looks because everyone everyone would rather just drop all your offensive plays,
• 1:17:45
  your passing concepts against one high. It is like it's like Michael, It's
• 1:17:48
  just like everything is good against one high. Right, That's that was his
• 1:17:50
  thing, and that that is really what you want. So if you're an
• 1:17:54
  offense, you know, I think the forty nine ers are able to earn
• 1:17:56
  it through partially through like how heavy there personnel is obviously a lot of versatility
• 1:18:00
  there, but they forced you to devote more resources to the run game.
• 1:18:03
  I think, like that's a smart thing to do on the defensive end,
• 1:18:05
  and yeah, the Eagles are they can do that to you, and then
• 1:18:09
  they're more than happy to, I think, be patient and take their shots
• 1:18:12
  kind of towards the end. I will say that obviously against the Chiefs,
• 1:18:15
  A J. Brown like, I mean, didn't have like a productive day
• 1:18:17
  in terms of numbers really at all. And the Eagles are not that they
• 1:18:20
  operate simply, but like they do the squeaky wheel thing, where like AJ
• 1:18:25
  Brown, I think like early in the season he had like a blow up
• 1:18:27
  on the sidelines, and then the next like the first three players for the
• 1:18:30
  next few games are just immediate throws to AJ Brown. So don't be surprised
• 1:18:32
  if it's like first plays five, five and into a J. Brown.
• 1:18:35
  Second, second play as a bubbled A J. Brown. Third is like
• 1:18:39
  another kind of screen for him. So there are times when I think that
• 1:18:43
  like people like Shane Sekin was really good at this. He just pressed the
• 1:18:46
  same button over and over and over again. And not that I think Brian
• 1:18:51
  Johnson, the Eagles offense coreener, is like impatient by any means. And
• 1:18:56
  I do think actually something that's big recently is there were there were issues in
• 1:18:59
  the run game for the Eagles. It wasn't like a whole, like holistic
• 1:19:02
  like oh this is the one issue. It was just like execution issues here
• 1:19:05
  and there. And I really do think having that right guard back where they're
• 1:19:09
  they have their starting offensive line, they're now just like have used a lot
• 1:19:13
  more variety in the run game. They'll they'll lean on DeAndre so especially in
• 1:19:16
  that kind of wide zone or outside zone game, because he is like he's
• 1:19:19
  playing super super well. He can he can hit home runs and they use
• 1:19:24
  them on a jet sweep, so he's explosive in that way, where of
• 1:19:27
  course, like we said, you know you don't have Dallas Goddter, that's
• 1:19:30
  a real hit to your run game. Jalen Hurt's not really being able to
• 1:19:32
  stretch the defense horizontally as part of that kind of zone read piece. That
• 1:19:36
  is a big hit on your run game. Even then when they get into
• 1:19:39
  the red zone, right we see Jalen Hurts had that kind of like CT
• 1:19:42
  counter touchdown from then ended up being empty where maybe a running back is kind
• 1:19:45
  of motioning out but they're happy to use him in the red zone there,
• 1:19:47
  and then you have to respect him on the red zone just because like I
• 1:19:50
  mean, he doesn't have to run seventy five yards. He just has to
• 1:19:53
  run ten and it's a touchdown. And I mean, we haven't even talked
• 1:19:57
  about the pusheak. We haven't even talked about it at one time. So
• 1:20:00
  I usually am talking to like go Chielkopati about the Eagles, So we're obviously
• 1:20:03
  like we're gonna be pro pushny because the team that we're talking about is using
• 1:20:06
  it, like like give me your give me your thirty seconds on like should
• 1:20:11
  it be banned? Like is it? Is it the worst playing football?
• 1:20:13
  Is it the best playing football? Is it somewhere in between? I need
• 1:20:15
  to hear your thoughts on the push snake. I'm a defensive guy, so
• 1:20:19
  part of me like just wants an eye for an eye where I'm like,
• 1:20:23
  I can't you can't touch a quarterback, you can't touch receivers anymore, So
• 1:20:27
  like, yeah, take it away from me offense, Like I just like
• 1:20:29
  I just just to be petty, but no, I don't think there's anything
• 1:20:33
  they are able to run it because of the roster that they've built, the
• 1:20:39
  offensive line, they have, way they're able to execute, and then the
• 1:20:42
  size and uniqueness of Jalen Hurts. And there's also a reason, I think
• 1:20:45
  to Sirianni's point, right, like if everybody could run it like the Eagles,
• 1:20:49
  they would. We've seen teams get stopped with the toush push in college
• 1:20:54
  and in the NFL, like other teams have gotten stopped. It's not this,
• 1:20:59
  it's it's it's not this like indefensible piece. Maybe it is for the
• 1:21:02
  Eagles because of what they can do, but I also think some cool stuff
• 1:21:05
  has come from it. I like when, like, oh, I forget
• 1:21:08
  who it was, it was in college, like three or four weeks ago
• 1:21:12
  they lined up for the touch, Yeah, when they turn it into yeah,
• 1:21:15
  like the flip to the running back like going left right, yeah.
• 1:21:17
  Like so I like some of that, like the mind games that exist with
• 1:21:20
  it. I'm not for banning it also too, like it's got to be
• 1:21:25
  situational. Like I hate to say this as a defensive person, but don't
• 1:21:29
  let them get into third and one or a fourth and one, like keep
• 1:21:31
  them at a distance so they can't run it like that. But you know
• 1:21:35
  the defensive person that he wants to be super petty. It'll be like,
• 1:21:38
  yeah, ban it, and then also like take away a legal contact and
• 1:21:42
  let us hit anybody where we want to from now on. But no,
• 1:21:45
  I think it's it's it's unfortunate that they've gotten so many teams with it.
• 1:21:49
  But I also think it's ridiculous that like, oh this too, this one
• 1:21:53
  team runs this thing really really really good, so should we ban it.
• 1:21:57
  It's just like what, like why like stop them or don't let them get
• 1:22:00
  into the situation where they can use it, which granted is easier said than
• 1:22:02
  done, But no, I'm for it, like let it rock. Yeah,
• 1:22:05
  I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. We got to get you
• 1:22:06
  a little heated on that answer. I do like it is an important like
• 1:22:11
  structural part of their offense where it's corn not corny, but like it's kind
• 1:22:15
  of like simplistic to be like, oh, like every time they start in
• 1:22:17
  first to nine, like I don't think that's fully true, but like on
• 1:22:21
  third and three, third and five, third and seven, like they'll run
• 1:22:25
  quarterback draw all the time, just being like hey, we just need five
• 1:22:28
  yards, we'll go ahead and run it. And even this year, you
• 1:22:30
  see Syrianna has used it like in their own zone, whether it's their own
• 1:22:35
  twenty, whether it's thrown thirty. So like that's the play that you will
• 1:22:40
  law probably see on Sunday. I think, yeah, in in different ways,
• 1:22:45
  but yeah, I'm sure on Sunday I'll hate it, Like I'll be
• 1:22:47
  watching it. This is the stupidest play. This place should be banned.
• 1:22:50
  I hate it. No if I was, if I was like a fan
• 1:22:56
  of a team playing against the Eagles, it's just like immensely frustrating. There's
• 1:22:59
  there's to me, there's no way for to stop unless you can like really
• 1:23:01
  mess with the snap in some sort of way or like hurts fumbled one.
• 1:23:05
  I think they fumble two actually like bobble that snap, Like that's an issue
• 1:23:09
  that I don't even know if you can create. But the push is always
• 1:23:13
  always a fun one to talk about. But like, I don't know,
• 1:23:15
  this is kind of like now we're getting deep into the podcast here, Like
• 1:23:18
  what if you start on first and ten and just run it four times?
• 1:23:20
  How many first sounds do you think like you're able to convert. It's like
• 1:23:24
  it's wild that they're not just getting one yard, Like I think that they're
• 1:23:28
  internally it seems like they limited to it to like, hey, if it's
• 1:23:31
  like one and a half yards, will run it if it's too weird or
• 1:23:33
  not running it, which is weird to me because they're able to get like
• 1:23:38
  three and a half yards on it a lot of the time. So like
• 1:23:41
  there was there was a problem, not a problem, but like against the
• 1:23:43
  Chiefs, it was a third and like Syriana said, it looked more like
• 1:23:46
  third and two, like third and two plus, but on the TV copy
• 1:23:49
  it was third and one, and they go like, inside, run just
• 1:23:53
  get them for minus two. It's fourth and three. Hey, we're out
• 1:23:55
  of the range and kind of just got to keep it moving. But I
• 1:23:58
  think, you know, even if you're the Bills, you can get get
• 1:24:00
  that pressure from the offensive end where I mean, we've talked about a bunch
• 1:24:03
  where there's gonna be a lot of opportunities for the Bills to light up the
• 1:24:05
  scoreboard, and then you know, you're getting into situations where the Eagles aren't
• 1:24:10
  just like hey we're insult the clock mode. We can kind of like take
• 1:24:13
  care of this game through there, because I don't know, like you know,
• 1:24:15
  in a perfect role that feels like this would be kind of who has
• 1:24:17
  the ball last mash. But this this does strike me as a as a
• 1:24:21
  game where you know, probably maybe like less points than than we're hoping for.
• 1:24:25
  We got the Eagles, like they just played on Monday night on the
• 1:24:28
  road. They're traveling all the way back. The Bills are like, I
• 1:24:30
  don't know, they're on the emotional rollercoaster of being a Buffalo Bill. You
• 1:24:34
  know that that that can never be easy. Obviously, you know you got
• 1:24:38
  the Kelly Green uniforms, Like and where why haven't I seen like Red Bill's
• 1:24:43
  helmets? Like what's going on? Because the world is full of fascists?
• 1:24:47
  I don't know. It's something I've been clamoring for, Like, and there's
• 1:24:49
  a decent sector the fan base that like and I like the current Bills uniforms,
• 1:24:54
  but there's a lot of exact idea. Let me let me get on
• 1:24:57
  record into Micha. Let me make sure we're gonna hear me, like I
• 1:24:58
  love the Bills' uniforms, but but that doesn't I love the Eagles uniforms.
• 1:25:01
  It doesn't mean you can't Kelly Green, like and I I just wanted for
• 1:25:05
  you know, one or two games a year, like let's get those red
• 1:25:08
  helmets. Let's just get some cool nineties uniforms. But there's a lot of
• 1:25:13
  the fan base that like doesn't want it, but there's they just get caught
• 1:25:16
  up in the from a Bill standpoint, like they just get caught up in
• 1:25:20
  the caause you can't have more than one helmet and the rule and all this
• 1:25:24
  and that it's just so annoying. Like I especially as I see again,
• 1:25:27
  like I mentioned earlier, like all the teams, like the Eagles went to
• 1:25:30
  the Kelly Green and the Tennessee Titans are doing the Houston Oilers uniforms, and
• 1:25:34
  the Seahawks are doing the Steve Large and Seahawks. I'm just like, all
• 1:25:39
  these amazing uniforms are coming back, Like I was just waiting for the Bills
• 1:25:43
  to come back and bring it, like I want to see it, and
• 1:25:45
  even all one that I really love. And I don't know how upset everybody
• 1:25:48
  in the chat is going to be when the Dolphins go with like the eighties
• 1:25:51
  Dan Marino uniforms with like the original big fat logo with the dolphin on it
• 1:25:57
  and like the big thick stripes on the side like that uniform is so beautiful.
• 1:26:00
  I feel like every team the NHL does it good like they even they've
• 1:26:03
  incorporated so many of the throwbacks and the like with regularity. And I feel
• 1:26:08
  like the NFL, of course they have to be like the league that doesn't
• 1:26:12
  let you wear like certain socks and doesn't let you put tape on in certain
• 1:26:15
  ways. Of course that's the one that's like, nope, we have to
• 1:26:16
  have rules on what. And I know some of it is safety based because
• 1:26:19
  like the helmets and YadA YadA, but I just want the Bills to have
• 1:26:23
  them so bad like this, and especially too that they're playing the Eagles,
• 1:26:27
  like of course the Eagles week, they're wearing the Kelly green like one of
• 1:26:30
  my favorite uniform schemes. It's just like another way to be like, oh,
• 1:26:34
  look what you don't have and look what we have, like oh,
• 1:26:36
  like it's just another another kick right into the gut. The Vikings brought back
• 1:26:41
  like they're old school ones like this year too, like it feels like like
• 1:26:45
  Buffalo Bills waiting for our chance, and it feels like, you know,
• 1:26:49
  it's that's you know something that you're you're you're for uniforms for for wins at
• 1:26:55
  times for conference championship games. I mean, you know, maybe the maybe
• 1:26:59
  the missing pieces, just the uniforms, maybe not in the scheme talk matter
• 1:27:01
  at all. Maybe yes, maybe it's just listen, if you look good,
• 1:27:06
  you play good, and that's all it is. Like sometimes you just
• 1:27:10
  need a little jumpstart to your wars droever your uniform and it just changes the
• 1:27:14
  entire outlook of a team a season, you know, a franchise. And
• 1:27:18
  Tim gets it in the comments you're saying the Kelly Green is just remind me
• 1:27:20
  of Randall Cunningham. Absolutely loved watching him when I was a kid. Yeah,
• 1:27:24
  you can't. You can't see those uniforms and not be like, oh,
• 1:27:27
  Randall Cunningham, like, oh Reggie White like and they're just so clean
• 1:27:30
  and they pop, especially in the era of like HDTV, certain colors just
• 1:27:35
  pop, and that Kelly Green just pops in the similar way that the Bill's
• 1:27:40
  red helmets would pop. But you know, I guess that's you know who
• 1:27:44
  am I? Who am? I? I'm just the guy with a tremendous
• 1:27:46
  sense for fashion and a tremendous eye for you know, beautiful detail when it
• 1:27:50
  comes to how to dress, and you know, who am I. You
• 1:27:53
  know, I'm just just a person out here. That's it. I will
• 1:27:57
  say. You know, Bills fans like the Eagles, if you like watch
• 1:27:59
  the broadcast maybe like five minutes before kickoff. I think it's like a four
• 1:28:02
  to twenty five kickoff like they do. Like to me, it's like a
• 1:28:05
  super cool kind of light show before the game. Like that's something that I
• 1:28:10
  think that you don't want to miss, Like link of Financial field is just
• 1:28:12
  like a super cool field. I think like they were the Kelly Greens against
• 1:28:15
  the Dolphins. To me, that's an indication that the Eagles take the Bill
• 1:28:17
  seriously. You know, it's a sign of respect, like they're not pulling
• 1:28:20
  out the Kelly Greens for anyone who's against the Dolphins in a crazy big matchup
• 1:28:24
  earlier in the season then against the Bills here like real quick. I mean,
• 1:28:29
  I'm not sure if I've asked you about this, but I'm thinking,
• 1:28:30
  like we had the Eagles game where there's rain involved and that like I personally
• 1:28:35
  am like I don't ever want to have an outdoor football game, Like that's
• 1:28:39
  my my side of it. I'm a defensive guy first and foremost as well,
• 1:28:45
  but I don't know if you have a thought on that. I know
• 1:28:45
  you guys got to do with a lot of snow in a lot of different
• 1:28:48
  ways. So whatever, whatever, how that feels you. But before you,
• 1:28:53
  before you kick me out from eating up your stream time, you gotta
• 1:28:55
  tell me what are your thoughts on. Just like outdoor football games in general,
• 1:28:59
  I like them. I from a I'm very into. For as much
• 1:29:01
  as I am like scheme and x's and o's and logistics of and the structure
• 1:29:06
  of football and everything like that, there is just something very aesthetically pleasing that
• 1:29:13
  hits me in the fields when mid November and December comes rolling around, and
• 1:29:19
  give me, give me an outdoor game with natural grass. One natural grass
• 1:29:25
  is safe for all the players and it reduces injury. So that's a huge
• 1:29:28
  reason why I want it. But give me you know that faded kind of
• 1:29:31
  grass, and you know the players got dirt and mud on them even when
• 1:29:34
  it's not rainy, just because the ground is cold and hard. Like,
• 1:29:38
  give me that. I want that playoff aesthetic and end in November and December
• 1:29:44
  and January like I want that piece. And so from a feeling standpoint and
• 1:29:47
  aesthetic standpoint, I want it, like I think it makes football football.
• 1:29:51
  There's something just right about seeing it. It's like seeing in Michigan and Ohio
• 1:29:55
  State play like in late November, like Big Ten football in a certain way,
• 1:29:59
  like or a Rose Bowl when it comes on. There's just something that
• 1:30:00
  hits me, like in the fields from how I grew up watching football in
• 1:30:03
  the nineties that makes me want outdoor football and all the thing, you know,
• 1:30:08
  the trappings that come with it. Now, I definitely recognize that certain
• 1:30:13
  environments aren't advantageous to certain teams like those Drew Brees Saints teams like want in
• 1:30:17
  home field advantage, so they never had to play outside, like ever got
• 1:30:21
  the Lions do it trying that same thing now, right, they would keep
• 1:30:25
  keep them indoors. YEP. A excellent point and but but I also think
• 1:30:29
  that and it's such a hot ont topic, but like, and I recognize
• 1:30:32
  how the Bills have been built to be more of like a quote unquote dome
• 1:30:35
  team, But I also think, like you you need to be versatile on
• 1:30:40
  how your team is built. And you can't build your team just to be
• 1:30:43
  like, well, we're built to win inside, like that's just not how
• 1:30:45
  it works. Like cause so that to me means like in the larger landscape
• 1:30:49
  of the conversation, like, cool, you're a passing offense. That means
• 1:30:53
  you can't run the ball. You're not good executing against the run. That
• 1:30:56
  means you're like you can't execute a basic phase of football on that side of
• 1:31:00
  the ball. Cool. What happens if you play a team in a dome
• 1:31:04
  and they have a tremendous like pass defense and you have to figure out how
• 1:31:08
  to run the ball, You're still gonna be screwed because you can't run the
• 1:31:10
  ball. Like, That's where the biggest piece of the conversation comes from me,
• 1:31:14
  And I'm very much like keep everything new, like I recognize the conversation
• 1:31:17
  for neutrality and like make it all even and put it in a dome.
• 1:31:20
  But for me, yeah, I grew up watching like NFL films and guys
• 1:31:25
  breathing and the cold coming out making it look like like dragons. You know,
• 1:31:29
  they're just breathing and steam coming off a dude's helmets or heads when they
• 1:31:31
  take their helmet off because it's January and it's cold. And I want that,
• 1:31:35
  like I need that. I love a good snow game. I don't
• 1:31:38
  want the weather to ever impact the games. No game, Yes, give
• 1:31:42
  me not a ton of snow. I don't want like six feet on the
• 1:31:44
  field. But give me some flurries, Like give me, give me something
• 1:31:47
  that adds to the ambiance. Give me a night game with a little bit
• 1:31:51
  of weather on a natural grass field outdoors. I want to see dirt and
• 1:31:56
  mud and cold breath and you know somebody's got you know, a brush burn
• 1:32:00
  on their elbow and it's bleeding a little bit through their white sleeves. Like
• 1:32:01
  I want to see some of that. Like, give me all the all
• 1:32:03
  the fields, that's what I want. I think. I mean, you're
• 1:32:06
  gonna get a lot of at aesthetic. I think it's obviously gonna be a
• 1:32:09
  playoff environment on that grass and in Lincoln Financial Field on Sunday. The snow
• 1:32:15
  like you can't Yeah, I don't think you're gonna get me on board there.
• 1:32:17
  Like I'm just it's just like just like a little gusting like a little
• 1:32:21
  like okay, the Bill's Dolphins game last year, where like you start to
• 1:32:25
  see the snowfall, like yeah, that's super cool, but like do not
• 1:32:28
  impact the football game? Yes, because of the weather, Like I I
• 1:32:30
  just I can't I can't stand that agree, And also like like I know
• 1:32:34
  you, I mean, I don't mean, I don't want to bring it
• 1:32:36
  up. But the Bill's Bengals film from the snow game last year, like
• 1:32:40
  just visually, it's hard to watch on Yeah, like you get on right,
• 1:32:43
  like like we know it's a simulard pressure, but like it's still kind
• 1:32:45
  of kind of hard. But I'm helping even that Bill's Dolphins game. So
• 1:32:49
  it starts to snow in the fourth and you're like, oh pretty, and
• 1:32:53
  then ten minutes later it's a white out and you can't see anything. And
• 1:32:57
  I remember going back and watching the tape and it's snowing so hard that like
• 1:33:00
  the clips I was gonna post, I'm like, nobody's gonna be able to
• 1:33:03
  see anything here because it's dark and it's snowy and it's all in front of
• 1:33:06
  the camera and nobody can see anything. Well, yeah, you know,
• 1:33:10
  I'm hoping for the whole entire like all the Buffalo, the entire East Coast
• 1:33:13
  and Relia everywhere. Like I'm hoping for not too much snow. Like I
• 1:33:15
  know that you guys got you got some rough rough snow last year, So
• 1:33:18
  I gonna limit that and Sunday. Let's just let's like, let's not have
• 1:33:21
  to send any dms back and forth about the weather. I know. That's
• 1:33:26
  like my my first and foremost self, like a good, a good,
• 1:33:28
  clean game of football. We can learn things about the Bills and Eagles and
• 1:33:30
  not be like, oh, you know, like like the ball hit there
• 1:33:33
  zeros and then you dropped it. Because I hate those type of variables,
• 1:33:35
  like I don't want to see Like I don't want to see a downpour.
• 1:33:39
  I don't want to see thirty mile an hour winds, and I don't want
• 1:33:43
  to see Yeah, like even though I love snow games like I like the
• 1:33:45
  dusting, I don't want to see snow to the point where it's like we
• 1:33:48
  can't see the lines on the field, we don't know where the first down
• 1:33:51
  is, and it's just like no, that's you know, it's funny.
• 1:33:54
  Ironically, Eagles. I'm thinking back, what's that Eagles game with Lashawn McCoy's
• 1:33:57
  the Eagles Lions in that big snow game, like I don't know, like
• 1:34:00
  ten years ago or something like that, in the snow in the where it
• 1:34:03
  was like this weird week where like everybody got hit. It was like I
• 1:34:06
  think Eagles Lions got hit with a ton of snow and like Ravens Vikings got
• 1:34:11
  hit with a ton of snow or they got hit with like feet of snow
• 1:34:14
  during the game and nobody could see anything. It was. Yeah, I
• 1:34:16
  don't want it to be. I don't want weather to the point where it's
• 1:34:19
  a huge variable and it significantly impacts the ability for the game to be played.
• 1:34:25
  I want enough weather that it adds to the drama and the ambiance and
• 1:34:29
  the visual aesthetic. But I don't want enough where it changes the game schematically
• 1:34:32
  and structurally that thing that makes sense and so like schrammatically structurally, do you
• 1:34:35
  feel you feel better or worse about the game after us being able to have
• 1:34:40
  a conversation. I mean, I grew up as a Bills fan and a
• 1:34:43
  Red Sox fan. I will forever be paranoid and secure and absolutely nothing.
• 1:34:45
  So I came into the into tonight nervous and paranoid, and I will leave
• 1:34:50
  nervous and paranoid. That's just how I am. And I mean I think
• 1:34:54
  also too, like from a schematic standpoint, like I in anything I do
• 1:34:57
  with the show, in my analysis, like my fandom doesn't creep in ever,
• 1:35:01
  like I will even when I've like haven't been doing the podcast or like
• 1:35:04
  living in this space. Like my fandom has always been very analytically based,
• 1:35:10
  and I obviously like love this team and love them like with my heart,
• 1:35:13
  but everything is I don't get blinded by the emotion of it, so I'm
• 1:35:15
  able to kind of compartmentalize the analysis and logistics of all it from the fandom
• 1:35:20
  piece, and I think that's allowed me to just really appreciate what this Eagles
• 1:35:25
  team does, like schematically and how good they are. And when you appreciate
• 1:35:28
  how good they are schematically and talent wise, it kind of puts the fear
• 1:35:31
  of God into you a little bit. But then it's also kind of knowing
• 1:35:35
  what this Bills team has been, Like you said it, like if they
• 1:35:38
  hit, they're one of like the few teams that have a legitimate chance of
• 1:35:43
  winning the Super Bowl in the entire NFL. Like when they hit, they're
• 1:35:46
  tremendous. Even with the injuries, they can still be a tremendous team,
• 1:35:49
  but they've just been so inconsistent. So for me, I think that's where
• 1:35:54
  the paranoia comes from. Knowing this went, especially with how the year started,
• 1:35:58
  like This went from a game that was more like, oh, test
• 1:36:00
  your metal against one of the best of being like, you have to win
• 1:36:03
  this game against one of the best teams in football. And then you add
• 1:36:06
  in the inconsistencies of this Bill's team, and you add in how good the
• 1:36:12
  Eagles team is schematically, like, especially for me as a tape watcher,
• 1:36:15
  Like, if you're a data guy and you like advanced metrics, cool,
• 1:36:18
  the Eagles are sweet. If you're a tape guy and you like ball and
• 1:36:20
  scheme and structure, cool, the Eagles are sweet. If you're a data
• 1:36:24
  guy and a film guy like me, it's even better. Like and so
• 1:36:28
  I think my appreciation for all of it and combined with it, yeah,
• 1:36:31
  it just yeah, I'm excited for this game because I think it even if
• 1:36:35
  you especially if you remove the emotion and the fandom this this should just be
• 1:36:39
  a fun football game. Like, I know what the Bills record is,
• 1:36:42
  there's still a good football team. We know what the Eagles are. This
• 1:36:45
  is a sweet game, Like, and the Eagles are coming off of beating
• 1:36:47
  the Chiefs, Like are they riding into that? I know? I think
• 1:36:49
  they play, don't they play San Francisco? After the Bills, so like
• 1:36:53
  yep, the San Francisco yep, and then they have the Cowboys. I
• 1:36:59
  think, oh gosh, should should definitely that Yah, I'm pretty sure.
• 1:37:00
  Yeah, it's Bill's Niners, Cowboys and then Seahawks. So it's like and
• 1:37:05
  again, as I said, like you're off a Monday night on a short
• 1:37:08
  week. You got home on Tuesday morning at like three am before and now
• 1:37:11
  you have a short week of practice. And then you know Buffalo, like
• 1:37:15
  I mean, they did roll against the Jets. You know they were able
• 1:37:16
  to get over the hump in the second half. I thought, So,
• 1:37:19
  yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I feel better where met
• 1:37:21
  the Eagle's chances after our talk, I you know what, And even whether
• 1:37:26
  I feel better for worse, I don't care because I enjoyed our conversation.
• 1:37:28
  You are like like I said, and I'm so I just I realized how
• 1:37:31
  long we've been going. I'm so sorry that we've been here for like over
• 1:37:34
  an hour and a half like I. But also you were asking me questions,
• 1:37:38
  So I feel better. I feel like no, he was he was
• 1:37:39
  playing along, but I'm so sorry for how long I've kept you. But
• 1:37:43
  this was absolutely tremendous, Like I had a blast the last time you were
• 1:37:46
  on for that Vikings week last year, and like I mentioned initially, like
• 1:37:51
  you I think when we initially started talking before he did the podcast stuff last
• 1:37:55
  year with the Vikings game, Like just you're a tremendous resource for pe before
• 1:38:00
  football knowledge and scheme and structure and understanding the game, like the way you
• 1:38:04
  present it, what you write in your articles, what you break down,
• 1:38:09
  like how you tie the film piece in with the data and just the analysis,
• 1:38:12
  Like you are legitimately like one of the best and one of my favorite
• 1:38:15
  people to go to, and just whose content I enjoy consuming regardless of who
• 1:38:21
  you cover what you cover, like you're absolutely tremendous of what you do.
• 1:38:24
  And then you know as a person, like I really dig who you are
• 1:38:27
  as a person and we get along really well. So I appreciate you taking
• 1:38:30
  the time joining me. I'm sorry this one so long, but you crushed
• 1:38:32
  it, as I had hope. I enjoyed this conversation tremendously, regardless of
• 1:38:36
  any trepidation and nervousness that I have for the matchup as a fan, as
• 1:38:40
  a person who just enjoys talking ball. It really doesn't get much better for
• 1:38:44
  me than sitting down and being able to talk to you. So thank you
• 1:38:45
  for taking the time. The floor is yours. Tell everybody where they can
• 1:38:49
  find you, what you do, all that kind of stuff, And I
• 1:38:53
  appreciate that so much. That was incredibly kind. And I will say,
• 1:38:56
  you know, we talked about that Vikings game last year. Crazy game.
• 1:38:59
  Maybe you know we get a fumble on the Bill's on one yard left.
• 1:39:01
  Hopefully we get as much craziness as that. But you know, I appreciate
• 1:39:04
  you so much. Everyone. You know, if you didn't like listen to
• 1:39:06
  me, don't have to follow me on Twitter. That's fine, no no,
• 1:39:10
  no hate, but I you know, follow it at side of schemes,
• 1:39:13
  S Y E. D schemes. I just love football so much.
• 1:39:15
  I think you know the same way you do a lot of just all twenty
• 1:39:18
  two. It's it's a real fun thing to watch. Hopefully no snow and
• 1:39:21
  kind of covering it up. I've been covering the Eagles, but really just
• 1:39:25
  you know, obviously watching across the league, there's just as much as I
• 1:39:28
  think Tom Brady just said, he's like, there's a lot of kind of
• 1:39:30
  mediocre football. There's a lot of good football out there too, and some
• 1:39:32
  of it is definitely happening in Buffalo. Hopefully more of it happens in Philadelphia
• 1:39:36
  for the Eagles than the Bills on Sunday, But yeah, shoot a fall
• 1:39:41
  on Twitter. Go to sumer sports dot com. We're putt up a lot
• 1:39:43
  of just you know, free data things you want to look at if you
• 1:39:45
  want to see, like, well, what are the Bills playoff chances?
• 1:39:47
  We got a lot of smart people working on some fun models there. I
• 1:39:50
  think that's a it's a good place for fans, you know, there's just
• 1:39:53
  there's so much content out there. I think you can spend some of your
• 1:39:56
  time with us at suomer. Absolutely like that. That's a great plug a
• 1:40:00
  well, like such a just a great site for like the EPA pieces and
• 1:40:03
  the success percentage pieces and just all in a nice It's got a good user
• 1:40:08
  interface. It's nice and digestible, like you guys. You guys do great
• 1:40:11
  work there. And yeah, everybody give give Sean a follow, like if
• 1:40:14
  you go. I pulled it up to make sure it was still and your
• 1:40:16
  thing, like your pin tweet is still the article you did about Kyle Shanahan's
• 1:40:20
  offense back in July, which is it's just so well done, like schematically,
• 1:40:26
  like if you need a one stop shop to understanding one of the best
• 1:40:29
  offensive minds in football, Like, that's a tremendous piece. And that's such
• 1:40:31
  a great pin tweet to have because it's so well done and it's topical and
• 1:40:34
  it's great and I feel like that's like you see that and you're like,
• 1:40:38
  oh, this guy knows ball, like and it's just such a good representation
• 1:40:41
  of who you are and what you do. Again, I appreciate the Hellaudia.
• 1:40:44
  I'll DM you once I finish this episode tonight to thank you again and
• 1:40:46
  all this stuff. And I'm sure I'll keep talking to you like normal,
• 1:40:49
  go to sleep or go do whatever you got to do. I'm sorry it
• 1:40:51
  took up so much your time. You crushed it. I appreciate the hell
• 1:40:55
  Outia. Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday, Happy Thanksgiving, and I'll see
• 1:40:58
  you on Twitter later. Mane Man tremendous guest, one of my favorites.
• 1:41:04
  Like I mentioned love Sean, he is absolutely tremendous. So we're gonna pivot
• 1:41:11
  now, we're gonna break down some game tape coming out of the back end
• 1:41:15
  of this bills Jets game, fire up the film in a minute before I
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  stop. Got a super chat Zach of all trades. Thank you very much
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  for being here, and thank you for the super chat. Zach says,
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  Oh, I like this question. I wonder how much Bobby Babbage gets to
• 1:43:28
  look at DC next year. He did so well as a coach for Ployer
• 1:43:30
  and High YEP back when he was with DB's safeties and now with the linebackers
• 1:43:35
  this year with Bernard and Doddson. I think it's a good that's a good
• 1:43:38
  point, you know. Terrell Bernard has played well this year. I don't
• 1:43:43
  think he's at the all pro level that some people have kind of anointed him
• 1:43:45
  as. But man, he was playing really great as a complimentary number two
• 1:43:49
  piece to Matt Milano, and then even when Milano went down, we haven't
• 1:43:54
  seen too much of a dip in Bernard's play. He's been a real quality
• 1:43:57
  addition. And then Tyrrell Dodson. You mentioned him. I had him as
• 1:44:00
  one of my stock up players here on the show a couple of weeks ago.
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  I broke down some of his plays against the Cincinnati Bengals. He's had
• 1:44:08
  a sneaky good year. I know it's not what people want to hear,
• 1:44:11
  and I know he still struggles in coverage and he's not the sexiest guy at
• 1:44:14
  that spot, but his plays against the run. You know, he will
• 1:44:16
  make some mistakes from time to time. But I think Bobby Babbage has done
• 1:44:19
  a good job of getting as much blood as he can from the Tyrrell Dodson
• 1:44:25
  stone in addition to seeing the jump in production and execution that we've seen from
• 1:44:30
  Terrel Bernard. So I think that's a really cool one shout out to Babbage.
• 1:44:32
  But two, yeah, I wonder if he gets any defensive coordinator looks
• 1:44:35
  or potentially do we see I don't know, does McDermott you kind of relinquish
• 1:44:41
  the reins to the defense a little bit? Next year, maybe Bobby Babbage
• 1:44:45
  becomes you know, Bill's DC, or he gets a DC offer, you
• 1:44:48
  know, somewhere else outside of the organization. So we'll see. But you
• 1:44:50
  know, I think, yeah, what he his track record with like you
• 1:44:53
  mentioned there in the secondary and then with the linebackers this year really speaks to
• 1:44:58
  what he's done and who he kind of is as a coach and developer.
• 1:45:01
  And you know, position guy, well done. I think that's very well
• 1:45:04
  said. Now let's switch om WITHNA pull ups and tape. I wanted to
• 1:45:09
  go over Ed Oliver versus the New York Jets, somebody who had a really
• 1:45:15
  tremendous game. There were several guys who really stood out. But you know,
• 1:45:19
  I do the film room every Wednesday with mister Eric Turner, will be
• 1:45:24
  live tomorrow night, seven pm Eastern. We had several guys that we were
• 1:45:27
  going to go through. So I had several potential players that I wanted to
• 1:45:30
  highlight on the defensive side in this game, but two of them were going
• 1:45:33
  to be highlighting tomorrow night in the film room along with a multitude of offensive
• 1:45:36
  pieces. And so the one that we didn't wanted to show here on this
• 1:45:41
  episode, and that was you know at Oliver in this game, and at
• 1:45:45
  Oliver who man the stats. I tweeted out some of his stats earlier last
• 1:45:54
  week, but the stats for at Oliver just on the year, right now
• 1:45:58
  at this point because I recognize the times where he breaks into the backfield and
• 1:46:02
  he doesn't get the quarterback down, and so you kind of see that he's
• 1:46:04
  not getting home or think he's not getting home. But amongst qualifying defensive tackles
• 1:46:10
  this year in twenty twenty three, so from a pass rush standpoint, there
• 1:46:14
  are one hundred and twenty six qualifying defensive tackles this year at Oliver. Amongst
• 1:46:20
  those one hundred and twenty six qualifying defensive tackles, he's tied for third in
• 1:46:24
  pressures. He's third in sacks. This is per PFF. They don't do
• 1:46:28
  half sacks, so keep that in mind. But he's tied for third in
• 1:46:30
  pressures, third in sacks, tied for fourth in pass rush productivity, tied
• 1:46:35
  for fourth in hurries, and he's fifteenth in win percentage. And then from
• 1:46:40
  a run defense standpoint, amongst one hundred and forty two qualifying interior defenders,
• 1:46:45
  he's tied for fourteenth and stops he's ninth in stop percentage, and he's tied
• 1:46:48
  for the sixth lowest average depth of tackle. What we've seen this year from
• 1:46:55
  Ed Oliver. OH appreciate Joe coming in saying, drop a leke on this
• 1:46:58
  video for the legend people, I appreciate you, Joe. That's a good
• 1:47:00
  way to say as well, or good segue or a good time to mention.
• 1:47:01
  If you have not already dropped alike on this video, please please,
• 1:47:04
  please, and thank you. It goes a sincerely long way trip helping myself
• 1:47:08
  and the entire team to track and trend in front of more eyes and ears.
• 1:47:10
  So if you have not dropped alike on this video and you are enjoying
• 1:47:13
  this content, it's greatly appreciated. If you drop alke on this video,
• 1:47:15
  whether you're watching live now or watching not live later, it goes a long
• 1:47:19
  way. So please please please think you drop alike. Appreciate Joe giving the
• 1:47:24
  shout out there, and also check out Joe's show under review. It used
• 1:47:26
  to be Saturday Mornings at eleven. It is now the Tuesday night show.
• 1:47:30
  He went live tonight at seven thirty before I went live, So give that
• 1:47:34
  show a checkout. Joe does a lot of good work. I was on
• 1:47:36
  his show Saturday. He's somebody who I enjoy talking to in the DMS.
• 1:47:41
  Oh and Tim's got some comments here for Joe. He says Joe, great
• 1:47:44
  show earlier, look forward to the rest. What kind of miss Saturdays though?
• 1:47:46
  So good. Shout out to Joe moving the time slot and doing some
• 1:47:48
  things there. Shout out Joe so again. Talk about some met Oliver pieces
• 1:47:56
  one more time with the numbers. One hundred and twenty six qualified defensive tackles
• 1:47:59
  from a pass rus stamp point tie for third, and pressures third and sacks
• 1:48:01
  tie for fourth, and passers productivity tie for fourth, and hurries fifteenth and
• 1:48:05
  win percentage against the run. One hundred and forty two qualifying defensive tackles tied
• 1:48:10
  for fourteenth, and stops ninth and stop percentage tied for six lowest average depth
• 1:48:15
  of tackle. I was very worried about what his production and effectiveness would look
• 1:48:19
  like once Daikwon Jones went down, and it has been affected. I think
• 1:48:24
  the defense has been affected as a whole once Daikwon Jones went down. But
• 1:48:29
  Ed Oliver's having a really strong year and it's nice to see him kind of
• 1:48:31
  give some return on investment with that contract that he got. He's just been
• 1:48:38
  effective against the pass, effective against the run. He's effective against double teams.
• 1:48:42
  The effort that he's playing with the technique, the tenacity, the power
• 1:48:45
  to the burst, the hand technique. Like he's doing a lot of great
• 1:48:48
  things just overall as a football player up front, and he's been a key
• 1:48:51
  piece for this defense, and he's going to need to continue to be a
• 1:48:55
  key piece for this defense. You know, we mentioned it earlier with Matt
• 1:48:58
  Milano going down, Daiquon Jones down, Trey White went down. There's been
• 1:49:01
  so many injuries on this defense that the top players that they have remaining have
• 1:49:08
  to play like top players and or even raise their game. So the guys
• 1:49:11
  like at Oliver, hopefully von Miller can get back to form, hide and
• 1:49:15
  Poyer what we're seeing ra Seuell Douglass do. And I think he's playing tremendously.
• 1:49:18
  Aj Abanessa has seen an uptick in his game. And then ed Oliver
• 1:49:21
  has been even more important on the defensive line because Greg Russeau is playing banged
• 1:49:25
  up. He is not right, His foot is all kinds of jacked up.
• 1:49:29
  You can see how hard it is just for him to move, let
• 1:49:31
  alone be effective snap to snap against offenses. So ed Oliver has been really
• 1:49:36
  the consistent piece on that defensive line along with Leonard Floyd. He and Floyd
• 1:49:42
  have been a tremendous one two duo and tandem up front. And it's nice
• 1:49:45
  to see, you know, at Oliver kind of get in some appreciation this
• 1:49:48
  year, but I think he deserves more. Again, those numbers that I
• 1:49:51
  mentioned are tremendous for him this year and what he's done. And now let's
• 1:49:58
  watch him a companying tape against the New York Jets. So he's had a
• 1:50:00
  lot of solid plays these last several weeks. This one is against the Jets.
• 1:50:04
  This is a run defense snap. So the Jets here are running a
• 1:50:08
  gh counter. That means the guard here and then this h back they're both
• 1:50:13
  going to pull and come to this other side. Breese Hall is going to
• 1:50:15
  take a step this way and then go and follow them along with the piece.
• 1:50:17
  But I've got at Oliver highlighted here and then we're also going to see
• 1:50:20
  from the end zone angle as well. But just watch at Oliver blow this
• 1:50:25
  play up like he and so what's gonna happen here too? So this guard
• 1:50:28
  is gonna pull right, which means the center is going to pin at Oliver,
• 1:50:32
  so he's gonna come here. He's trying to hit at Oliver and stop
• 1:50:35
  him right here, so that way all this action can come back this way.
• 1:50:40
  At Oliver is trapped here and you get a nice alley and everything is
• 1:50:43
  ship shaped on the front side of this run right, So the center is
• 1:50:46
  coming down trying to pin at Oliver. But watch ed the burst that he
• 1:50:50
  gets. He completely blows this thing up like there is no shot. And
• 1:50:56
  it's purely because of get off leverage and burst that he plays with. Again,
• 1:51:00
  I'll play it in real time so you can get the appreciation for it.
• 1:51:02
  Just rips right through and if you notice, he basically takes up three
• 1:51:06
  blockers. So there comes the motion boom. All right, so cool.
• 1:51:12
  Here is that pen attempt from the center, and here's the right tackle.
• 1:51:18
  Here is that age. It's basically a tight end, but based on the
• 1:51:21
  alignment calling in an H. So this is that tight end Ty Conklin who's
• 1:51:27
  trying to come across to help lead for Brice Hall head Oliver. Okay,
• 1:51:32
  he's already got the center trying to pin him down and he's got the right
• 1:51:34
  tackle trying to lend some support. Again the get off the burst. Let's
• 1:51:40
  watch when we go in slow motion. Here there comes the motion boom,
• 1:51:44
  the snap look how much ahead he is of the rest of the defensive line,
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  just from where his head is versus everyone else. I know that's not
• 1:51:50
  the greatest straight line, but look at him out of his stance. He's
• 1:51:53
  already across the line of scrimmage like he's ready. Not only is he beating
• 1:51:56
  the rest of the front on the snap, he's also beating the center.
• 1:51:59
  Joe Tip, who's trying to pin him down, gets through Boom. He's
• 1:52:02
  occupied now by the center and the right tackle. Here comes that pulling tight
• 1:52:08
  end, that pulling h Oliver keeps driving, he keeps fighting through Boom knocks
• 1:52:14
  the right tackle into that pulling h so effectively he makes the right tackle block
• 1:52:20
  his own man and then takes up three blockers by himself, which creates a
• 1:52:27
  free opportunity for Dodson to make a play on the front side and cut inside.
• 1:52:30
  Dorny Williams comes through clean. It just this is a play that's not
• 1:52:34
  going to show up on the stat sheet, and that's the reason I wanted
• 1:52:38
  to pick this play first. This is not one that shows up on a
• 1:52:41
  box score. This is not one that shows up on the stat sheet in
• 1:52:45
  any way, shape or form. This is watching and either noticing it on
• 1:52:47
  the broadcast or watching the tape after and recognizing how good of a play this
• 1:52:51
  is and the positive domino effect it has for the rest of the defense.
• 1:52:56
  And we'll watch it from the end zone angle again. So there's that Oliver
• 1:53:00
  Lighted goes forward and you'll see this guard is going to pull. The center's
• 1:53:04
  going to try and pin down on Ed. Here comes at Oliver, Boom,
• 1:53:11
  rips through, sees it, diagnoses it leans right in the center.
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  Watch that rip. You see him kind of pop through those hips and rip
• 1:53:17
  through just and the force I think the forces it to watch what happens to
• 1:53:25
  the right tackle there, how much he knocks back that right tackle number sixty
• 1:53:29
  one boom and knocks him right into ty Conklin number eighty three, who's trying
• 1:53:34
  to come across on the pole. That's just a great play. Single handedly
• 1:53:38
  wrecks it. Three blockers all tied up in mister Ed. Oliver creates displacement,
• 1:53:45
  wrecks the blocking scheme again. That tight end ty Conklin number eighty three,
• 1:53:49
  he's trying to come across like he is trying to pull along with that
• 1:53:55
  guard number sixty three and lead this play out the front door and there's in
• 1:54:00
  there and it's purely because of what Ed Oliver did. Let it run from
• 1:54:03
  this angle? Is I que up the next play for us? So again,
• 1:54:10
  just a great effort, physical, tenacious, good job. Now let's
• 1:54:15
  go to this next one at Oliver highlighted with an arrow here on this one.
• 1:54:19
  Oh, I like this comment from Riemann saying I need an Ed Oliver
• 1:54:21
  Tasmanian Devil shirt. That's fair, that's fair. This one here for the
• 1:54:28
  Buffalo Bills third and six, they're showing pressure at the line of scrimmage,
• 1:54:31
  showing man coverage on the back end. This one, Ed kind of makes
• 1:54:34
  a secondary play, but it's the hustle, it's the effort. This is
• 1:54:38
  a play. There's a minute twenty four left in the second quarter. This
• 1:54:41
  is a touchout or this is a drive actually where the Jets end up scoring
• 1:54:43
  a touchdown at the end of the end of the uh for this is a
• 1:54:50
  really good play from Ed Oliver. So we see the scheme. It leads
• 1:54:54
  to Poyer coming free off the edge. Zach Wilson comes out, but boom,
• 1:54:58
  here is Ed Oliver. Watch the hustle from Ed Oliver as he comes
• 1:55:02
  flying down the line and forces fourth down. That is a really good job
• 1:55:10
  of hustle of effort. I also like this look from the Bills with what
• 1:55:17
  you get up front, So six man pressure. Look, you've got Leonard
• 1:55:21
  Floyd and Von Miller mugged in each a gap and then you've got Bernard off
• 1:55:26
  the edge and Poyer off the edge, so you don't know who's coming where
• 1:55:29
  are they coming from. What you're gonna get on the snap is Von and
• 1:55:31
  Leonard Floyd and the A gaps are both gonna drop out. Here we go
• 1:55:38
  snap boom, they both drop out. But the Jets have slid the protection,
• 1:55:42
  so Poyer comes in Scott free. Technically Zach Wilson's man, because even
• 1:55:46
  if even if everybody comes here, it's still six on the line for the
• 1:55:50
  Bills versus five for the Jets. So that's gonna be is gonna end up
• 1:55:56
  being Zach Wilson's man. So Zack Wilson's job to be him, which he
• 1:56:00
  does. He recognizes it spins out of it. Good job by Zach Wilson.
• 1:56:03
  Ed Oliver sees it, and this is where he immediately gets on his
• 1:56:08
  giddy up and gets flying down the line like he takes a good angle.
• 1:56:14
  That's where we really see the speed and Zach Wilson, for again, as
• 1:56:16
  much as he's been knocked from a decision making standpoint, a quarterbacking standpoint,
• 1:56:19
  he is fast. He is athletic. He is good on the move from
• 1:56:24
  like a running standpoint, not throwing on the runner, making decisions on the
• 1:56:27
  run. Ed gets on his horse, no pun intended, Like, look
• 1:56:30
  at the speed there, the athleticism, the burst, and you see Michel
• 1:56:34
  Hyde Hide recognizes it immediately kind of waits for Ed to come out from the
• 1:56:41
  Jets sideline there after. Making that play traps him up because that's a good
• 1:56:44
  play. Here's another angle of it at Oliver right now, and just watch
• 1:56:51
  the play. He sees that Wilson's trying to escape, he's trying to evade,
• 1:56:56
  gets right down the line, hustling on third down to force fourth down.
• 1:57:00
  That's really good play from Matt Oliver, real quality play, hustle effort.
• 1:57:08
  I think he gets qualited for quality. I think it's credited for a
• 1:57:11
  tackle on this play, I think. But this is again one that kind
• 1:57:15
  of gets lost in the sauce. It's not a sack, it's not this
• 1:57:16
  turnover. Creating play like this is just good hustle and effort from a player
• 1:57:20
  that you need to be one of your top dudes. And I know,
• 1:57:25
  you know, some people question his hustle at times and his play effort regularly,
• 1:57:30
  but it shows up. It shows up when you watch the tape.
• 1:57:33
  Here's another one, so I'm highlighted there. I want to see this play.
• 1:57:41
  This one. I'm sure he's upset because he probably wanted the sack,
• 1:57:43
  but it ends up being a QB draw. So on the snap, watch
• 1:57:47
  him try to rush that outside he diagnoses that the draw is coming. See
• 1:57:53
  he's got the eyes on Zach Wilson the whole time. Now watch him put
• 1:57:57
  the brakes on like he does there, put the brakes on, chuck his
• 1:58:02
  man into the ground, and make the play again one more time in Pet's
• 1:58:08
  motion, one on one with the center, chucks him, makes the tackle,
• 1:58:13
  so that's a stop on third down forces fourth down, watch from the
• 1:58:15
  end zone angle again, I am highlighted here. He is in that two
• 1:58:19
  eye alignment on the inside shoulder of the left guard, head up, and
• 1:58:25
  he's rushing the QUB the whole way. On the snap, goes onto the
• 1:58:29
  center starts to rush outside again, doesn't get out of control, sees what's
• 1:58:33
  happening, puts the brakes on, and then watch him again. It's part
• 1:58:36
  momentum that helps him kind of take the center down because he gets the field
• 1:58:40
  so fast and then puts on the brake so quickly and effectively chucks his man
• 1:58:45
  to the ground, sheds him. That's really where you see it too,
• 1:58:47
  this end zone angle. It's not just like he throws him down. Watch
• 1:58:50
  him throw that inside arm and then get him with the outside arm and swim
• 1:58:56
  right over that quick arm over to disengage and completely get clean and complete get
• 1:59:00
  free again. It's watch from the end zone angle. It's real pretty Oh
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  I like this. Come here from Amy saying Anthony when Oliver signed his extension,
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  Remember he said, now that I got paid, I feel like it's
• 1:59:13
  my first year and have to prove myself instead of just showing up. And
• 1:59:15
  then she says, go Bills, I like that. I like that a
• 1:59:17
  lot. Tetop saying I got here late. No, it doesn't matter.
• 1:59:19
  We have a tremendous show. Myself and SHANSI ed went extremely long and detailed
• 1:59:25
  with Bill's eagles. So go back check out the rest of the episode,
• 1:59:27
  Hans TV. I see your question here. I'm going to get at it
• 1:59:30
  in a minute once I finish the next play here. Good job from Ed
• 1:59:34
  again recognizing what's going on, diagnosing, reading, reacting, not just you
• 1:59:40
  know, playing blind or playing out of control like you're trying to get upfield.
• 1:59:43
  You're trying to make a play. You recognize, you diagnose, get
• 1:59:45
  clean, make the play, shed your man, make the play, adjust,
• 1:59:49
  read, react, that's what you want. You want adjustments in the
• 1:59:53
  moment. Sometimes your original plan and your original thought isn't what comes to fruition?
• 1:59:57
  Can you adjust? And can you wouldjust and still boom, fast,
• 2:00:01
  tenacious, good hands, good read, quickness, urgency, athleticism, boom.
• 2:00:09
  There's some pop and some violence in the way he sheds that center chucks
• 2:00:13
  him right down to the ground. It makes the stop on Wilson forces fourth
• 2:00:15
  down. That's a nice play. This last one here, they're going to
• 2:00:19
  look at for mister Ed Oliver, have him circle there. He and aj
• 2:00:24
  Panessa are going to run tackle end stunt also sometimes referred to as a tech
• 2:00:30
  stunt texts stunt tex, which basically all this means is AJ Panessa is gonna
• 2:00:34
  spike inside here and at Oliver's gonna loop around him. There. Aj Panessa
• 2:00:39
  is the spiker, at Oliver is the looper, and watch at Panessa boom.
• 2:00:45
  There he darts inside. See him get the hands extended and aim at
• 2:00:48
  that left guard so we can take up the guard and also take up the
• 2:00:50
  left tackle. The tackle gets driven inside a little bit, so Ed keeps
• 2:00:56
  it tight, rushes right up field, opens up the left tackle a little
• 2:00:59
  bit, and watch him chuck him to the ground and then make the sack
• 2:01:03
  and get on with Zach Wilson. We'll watch it in real time and then
• 2:01:10
  show you from the end zone angle. Boom, get up Field, chuck
• 2:01:13
  your man. Wait the second Oh, this is also the one where we
• 2:01:17
  got the celebration with the little rodeo piece. Oh, let's watch from the
• 2:01:21
  en zone angle. So again at Panessa is coming here. Well from a
• 2:01:25
  better angle. Let me go forward so it does interfere with the circle.
• 2:01:27
  He is spiking inside, aiming at that left guard, trying to cause chaos
• 2:01:31
  so that way at Oliver can come clean as he loops around, and watch
• 2:01:36
  at Oliver's loop, which is a nice piece. So here comes agapinessa darts
• 2:01:40
  inside boom. Watch how tight at Oliver keeps it to the left tackle.
• 2:01:45
  If you get two rounded, it's an inefficient route to the quarterback. You
• 2:01:48
  give the quarterback extra time. You know, the shortest distance between two points
• 2:01:53
  is a straight line. So anytime you bow this out or you round it
• 2:01:55
  out a little bit, you're giving that quarterback extra time to adjust. At
• 2:01:59
  Oliver does not take this too wide. He cuts right off of aj Apanessa's
• 2:02:03
  backside, so he times it well, he reads it well, He paces
• 2:02:06
  this well, cuts right off of him. And then because he does that
• 2:02:11
  and then angles, you see that Lien Orenie is starting to get up field.
• 2:02:14
  This forces the left tackle to have to react quickly. It's also a
• 2:02:17
  good spike by Ajpanessa to occupy the left guard and also influence and obstruct the
• 2:02:23
  left tackle. That causes sixty seven, that left tackle there to get out
• 2:02:27
  of his you know, out of his set a little bit late in terms
• 2:02:30
  of that spike from aj Panessa, So he backs out, he opens himself
• 2:02:35
  up and look at the lean and the body position from Ed Oliver. Low
• 2:02:40
  Man wins. Always when it comes to the trenches, low Man wins.
• 2:02:43
  This tackle is almost standing straight up again. He's reacting. He's trying to
• 2:02:46
  open up quickly because he got affected by the spike, and then it's getting
• 2:02:50
  affected by the loop from Ed Oliver. He's too vertical. He's opened up,
• 2:02:55
  he's opened up his chest, he's starting to get horizontal. It's not
• 2:02:58
  the positioning that you want. And then in conjunction with all of that,
• 2:03:00
  look at the lean and the body position from Ed Oliver. Real pretty I
• 2:03:05
  shouldn't have done that line that long, real pretty body lean. He's on
• 2:03:09
  that almost forty five degree angle. Watch him get into the chest and then
• 2:03:13
  this is where you see the strength and the power and the leverage gets under
• 2:03:17
  him. And look at him just lean into that left arm, that inside
• 2:03:20
  arm, and Boom just chucks him to the side. He almost tackles Zach
• 2:03:27
  Wilson by chucking the left tackle into Zach Wilson and watching in real time Boom
• 2:03:31
  keep it tight. That's an impressive rep. I don't care if it's against
• 2:03:36
  a backup left tackle, like chucking a grown man in the NFL like that
• 2:03:42
  that quickly and that effectively, and then chasing down the quarterback. That's tremendously
• 2:03:46
  effective. That's a great rep. From Ed Oliver, and like I said,
• 2:03:50
  he continues to have these great reps week after week, play after play.
• 2:03:57
  He's been somebody that's been extremely strong for this Bill's team and we're gonna
• 2:04:01
  need him to continue to play at that level given the injuries to this front
• 2:04:08
  and what's tasked of this team going forward. This is something that you know,
• 2:04:13
  this type of play is something that's needed for this team and really for
• 2:04:16
  not just for this defensive line, like for the team because this defense complimentary
• 2:04:20
  football. I know, it's not just a buzzword or an annoying topic for
• 2:04:24
  some people. It's a real thing. This defense needs to keep carrying its
• 2:04:27
  weight as much as they can, and Ed Oliver is a key cog and
• 2:04:30
  piece in that defensive machine. I want to go back to this question from
• 2:04:34
  Hans. Hans said was what would love to hear your thoughts on vond Seeing
• 2:04:39
  a lot of fans bashing for his lack of production. I feel like it's
• 2:04:41
  just taken a while to get back from that ACL. Yeah, dude's thirty
• 2:04:45
  four. It's the second time he's torn this ACL and that same knee.
• 2:04:47
  He's not even a full year removed from it. He's getting on this week
• 2:04:51
  or next week, you know, depending on the date, he's gonna be
• 2:04:55
  a full year removed. You usually don't get back to your same pre te
• 2:05:00
  self until year two, and that's without tearing it twice, and that's without
• 2:05:04
  also being thirty four years old. I think he has kind of taking it,
• 2:05:09
  you know, from a plan perspective and getting his feet wet and taking
• 2:05:12
  it a little by the little I will say. I know, the production
• 2:05:14
  hasn't been there, and the splash plays haven't been there. He has had
• 2:05:16
  some good reps. We've seen some speed around the edge. We've seen some
• 2:05:19
  good push pull. We've seen him drive some players into the quarterback's lap and
• 2:05:26
  affect the depth of the pocket in addition to affecting the width. So I
• 2:05:29
  don't think he's, you know, pre injury von Miller. I don't think
• 2:05:31
  he's that guy that you know, was such a game wrecker against the Chiefs
• 2:05:34
  last year in the regular season. But you have seen some flashes. I'm
• 2:05:40
  hoping with each week he gains more confidence, gains more effectiveness, starts to
• 2:05:45
  feel better and is able to kind of get more juice out of that knee
• 2:05:47
  and out of himself and is able to become more productive. So you know,
• 2:05:51
  I think it's overall been disappointing, but I also think there should be
• 2:05:55
  some expectation to it. I wasn't expecting him to be a real contributor on
• 2:05:58
  this team until December or late November, but mainly December. I think he's
• 2:06:03
  feeling more pressure and he's getting bashed a lot because Matt Mlonald's out, Deacon
• 2:06:09
  Jones is ou Tredavius White is out, and this team has been losing.
• 2:06:12
  So you need everybody who is a quote unquote star on your team that's remaining
• 2:06:15
  to step up and play big. And he's a star. He got paid
• 2:06:19
  big time and he has been playing to that level. But again, I
• 2:06:21
  think there should be some expectation and leeway given considering the injury he had when
• 2:06:29
  he had it, the timeline for a return, and what he's been doing
• 2:06:31
  in terms of ramping up and gearing up, in addition to where he is
• 2:06:34
  in his career. So there have been some flashes. I don't think it's
• 2:06:39
  necessarily wholeheartedly what you want to see, given how important he is to this
• 2:06:44
  team and what the Bills need from him, but I think there have been
• 2:06:46
  some flashes that have given me some encouragement, and I hope to continue to
• 2:06:50
  see that piece. Oh I like to comment from Tim talking about one of
• 2:06:54
  the places from at Oliver saying, this level of awareness reminds me of the
• 2:06:57
  past rush against I think it was Miami where he stopped his Russian sat in
• 2:07:00
  the pass lane. He's a smart man. He's a smart man. What
• 2:07:04
  else do we got? Oh? Rieman says that the Eagles all line the
• 2:07:09
  best we've seen all year. Yeah, the Eagles offensive line is one of
• 2:07:14
  the best. Like weekend and week out, the Eagles are up there,
• 2:07:17
  the Lions are up there. Those are probably my top two for best offensive
• 2:07:20
  line. The Cowboys when things are right, have a good offensive line.
• 2:07:23
  But yeah, the Eagles are tremendous. From a talent standpoint and an execution
• 2:07:26
  standpoint, and a coaching standpoint, They're absolutely tremendous, Absolutely, absolutely tremendous.
• 2:07:33
  Tim says Anthony. Do you think the Bills will be able to resign
• 2:07:36
  any of d Q, Floyd or Epines to this offseason? Any preference of
• 2:07:40
  guys to this point the season. I think they could sign two out of
• 2:07:43
  the three. I would give priority to Daikwon Jones because of the role that
• 2:07:48
  he plays in the position that he plays in the level that which he plays
• 2:07:51
  it at. Floyd and Epiness are tough. Floyd is a proven guy.
• 2:07:58
  He's a Super Bowl winner. He is kind of a sad artist in that
• 2:08:00
  mold. He came here to Buffalo on a one year deal and he's been
• 2:08:03
  one of the most productive edges, not just for this Bills team but in
• 2:08:05
  the entire NFL in terms of sacks and pressures and pressure rate and pass for
• 2:08:09
  us productivity. I think he probably commands more, not term but dollar amount
• 2:08:16
  on the open market, but maybe not. I mean, he was a
• 2:08:20
  free agent into June when he signed with the Buffalo Bills. I don't know
• 2:08:22
  that was by his choosing or the market, but I think the Bills could
• 2:08:24
  realistically sign two of the three. I would give priority to day Quon.
• 2:08:31
  I really like aj Panessa. It's tough for me between Floyd and Epanessa.
• 2:08:33
  I think Ajpanessa is on an upwards trajectory and he will continue to get better.
• 2:08:37
  He's had a very sneaky good year this year and isn't getting talked about
• 2:08:41
  enough. I thought he improved a lot as last season went on and I
• 2:08:43
  think he's been good this year. It's just kind of getting lost in the
• 2:08:46
  sauce amongst all the other storylines for the Bills this year. Daikwan would get
• 2:08:50
  my priority. Honestly, I know how great Floyd has been. It's tough
• 2:08:54
  for me right now between Floyd and Epanessa, But just from a known quantity
• 2:08:56
  perspective, I probably lean Floyd. But it's really close because I like aj
• 2:09:01
  Apanessa. I like what he does. I've been a fan of his game
• 2:09:03
  this year. He's winning in a multitude of ways. I really like what
• 2:09:07
  he does. M mmmm anything so I copy, I think seeing a lot
• 2:09:18
  of repeak comments, I just also realize what time it is. I'm gonna
• 2:09:22
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• 2:09:22
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• 2:09:26
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• 2:09:31
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• 2:09:50
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• 2:09:54
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• 2:09:58
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• 2:10:05
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• 2:10:07
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• 2:10:09
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• 2:10:24
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  cool. Thank you for your view. Listen, download, whatever have you
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  regardless. Whenever you're watching this on here on YouTube, please drop ake on
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  this video. Tell your family and friends and loved ones about this show.
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  Word of mouth is always tremendous. Tell them how awesome this show is.
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  If you thought this show was terrible, tell your enemies about the show and
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  try and ruin their day with this show. I hope everyone has a very
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  good holiday week, has a great Thanksgiving, and has a great Black Friday
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  and shopping weekend. If you're one of those people that shop in any former
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  capacity, be safe. I'm gonna go through some of that piece as well.
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  I wanted to recognize some of the awesome comments that are coming through and
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  the appreciation and thanks to me so oh, I like this one from Tim
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  feels like a Thanksgiving special. Maybe this is a Thanksgiving special like that to
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  him. I appreciate you folks riding with us here on the show again,
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  watching live, watching later, listening, downloading, whatever have you, whatever
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  form or fashion your support comes in. It's greatly appreciated by myself and the
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  entire team. Thank you very much for the Zach of all trades for the
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  super chat earlier. Oh and I appreciate the kind words as well. I
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  don't like to pull up too many kind word things for myself cause I feel
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  like it's corny, but I see them and I greatly appreciate them. So
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  thank you very much for that. Have a happy Thanksgiving everyone. I hope
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  you and your family and friends and loved ones are all doing well and staying
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  safe. Be kind to one another, take care of one another. I
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  will see you tomorrow night, Wednesday, November twenty second for another episode of
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  the Cover One Film Room. Myself and Eric Turner will be diving into a
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  bunch of pieces with that. Then I'll see you. See you live next
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  Tuesday, November twenty eighth for another episode of Disguised Coverage nine pm Eastern.
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  Again, Disguis Coverage every Tuesday nine pm Eastern and the Cover One Film Room
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  Live every Wednesday, seven pm Eastern. That's what I do, That's where
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  I am. I appreciate you folks more than you will possibly know. Have
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  a great night, have a great holiday, be safe, take care,
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  be kind, godspeed, and as always go Bils.