Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Harmeet Dhillon | Assistant A.G. for Civil Rights at the U.S. D.O.J. Says She's Keeping a Keen Eye on NYC
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- 0:00Speaker 1: She currently does run the Civil.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Rights Division, a big deal of the DOJ. But she
- 0:05Speaker 2: is on the right side of everything. I mean that,
- 0:08Speaker 2: so now only do I respect her the job that
- 0:10Speaker 2: she does, and Trump knows that, but I just think
- 0:13Speaker 2: she's a great lady and.
- 0:14Speaker 1: A New Yorker. Two, my friend horm Meat Dylan harm meet,
- 0:17Speaker 1: good morning. How are you.
- 0:19Speaker 3: I'm wonderful.
- 0:19Speaker 4: Thanks for having me against ITID.
- 0:21Speaker 2: It's great to have you. You know, you fight for everything
- 0:25Speaker 2: we care about here. You fight to eradicate anti Semitism
- 0:29Speaker 2: and there's nobody you're afraid to go after. You fight
- 0:34Speaker 2: to make sure our elections are real and all that
- 0:39Speaker 2: fraud eventually goes away. You fight for our kids to
- 0:45Speaker 2: be able to go to some of our finest institutions
- 0:48Speaker 2: like Harvard without being harassed. Harmiat Dylon, you're an American hero.
- 0:55Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much. I mean, I work with
- 0:57Speaker 4: a team of about two hundred find lawyers at the
- 1:01Speaker 4: Civil Rights Division and we are charged with protecting the
- 1:04Speaker 4: civil rights of all Americans. And it's been a tremendous
- 1:06Speaker 4: honor to be able to fight for the American people
- 1:09Speaker 4: in this.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Role over the last year and a half.
- 1:11Speaker 4: And you know, I couldn't thank the President more for
- 1:14Speaker 4: giving me this opportunity. But there's so much work to
- 1:17Speaker 4: be done. Said, it's like an around the clock job.
- 1:20Speaker 4: You get up and you find out some new discrimination
- 1:24Speaker 4: has happened, some politician has weaponized.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Things against people, some you know, governor.
- 1:29Speaker 4: Some secretary of state has allowed non citizens under the
- 1:33Speaker 4: voting roles. And you know, so it's basically a NonStop
- 1:37Speaker 4: job fighting the incursions on our civil rights. And you know,
- 1:42Speaker 4: it's great, great to be able to do it, but
- 1:47Speaker 4: you know, we absolutely have to be visulant constantly.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Dove Hiken joined me earlier today. I'm sure you know
- 1:53Speaker 2: who Dove is. He spent almost forty years you know,
- 1:55Speaker 2: do assemblyment of course probole, and he said, he said,
- 1:59Speaker 2: sid perse, he thanked me for my comments on Fox.
- 2:02Speaker 1: You don't have to do that, but.
- 2:03Speaker 2: He did say, him and the former governor David Patterson
- 2:06Speaker 2: are calling on the Justice Department to investigate the climate
- 2:10Speaker 2: of jew hatred and excite an incitement excuse me that
- 2:15Speaker 2: the mayor has created in New York. So, for example,
- 2:18Speaker 2: when he comes out and he knew all along, he's
- 2:21Speaker 2: not stupid, he knew all along he could never.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Arrest Israeli Prime Minister.
- 2:25Speaker 2: He knew that, okay, but he wanted to gin up
- 2:27Speaker 2: all the support from his base and make people mad.
- 2:30Speaker 2: So when he comes out afterwards and says that he
- 2:32Speaker 2: expects people to hit the streets, basically asking New Yorkers
- 2:35Speaker 2: to riot when BB gets here in September, that's a
- 2:38Speaker 2: big issue. So if Hiken and Patterson send the DOJ
- 2:43Speaker 2: a letter, my guess is you, guys, at the very least,
- 2:46Speaker 2: well look at it.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Yes.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Well, look, I don't need anyone to send me a
- 2:50Speaker 4: letter to do my job.
- 2:52Speaker 3: We're already looking at these issues.
- 2:55Speaker 4: I mean, but let me just like break this down.
- 2:58Speaker 4: I think the rhetoric of the mayor has been inflammatory
- 3:02Speaker 4: and dangerous. I think there already has been a climate
- 3:06Speaker 4: in New York which we've seen from the attacks on
- 3:09Speaker 4: synagogues in the city, and which which, by the way,
- 3:11Speaker 4: the Department of Justice is investigating and or prosecuting several
- 3:15Speaker 4: hate crimes in.
- 3:17Speaker 3: New York, in the boroughs and in Manhattan as well.
- 3:21Speaker 4: Party synagogue is one that I've personally visited and met
- 3:24Speaker 4: with a rabbi there who's a Holocaust survivor, and heard
- 3:27Speaker 4: some heartbreaking stories about how these mobs will come and
- 3:31Speaker 4: create fear. So the mayor has gotten elected, frankly on
- 3:36Speaker 4: a wave of Jew hatred, and I think he is
- 3:40Speaker 4: absolutely winking at it and fanning the flames and giving
- 3:44Speaker 4: his supporters permission to accelerate this type of rhetoric. And
- 3:48Speaker 4: you see it from politicians on the left. Now, you
- 3:53Speaker 4: really can't be a rising politician in one side of
- 3:57Speaker 4: our political spectrum without enabling this type.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Of a speech.
- 4:02Speaker 4: So that said, you know, we do have a robust
- 4:04Speaker 4: First Amendment in our country, and the standard for holding
- 4:08Speaker 4: somebody liable for an actual act of violence you have
- 4:12Speaker 4: to be, you know, basically inciting it directly right there
- 4:15Speaker 4: in a mob setting. That's the Supreme Court precedent. So
- 4:18Speaker 4: I think the bigger problem with the Mamdani's of the
- 4:21Speaker 4: world is that people are voting for inevitable results here,
- 4:27Speaker 4: and I think they should make different choices. That's the
- 4:29Speaker 4: solution to this is more of a political solution than otherwise.
- 4:32Speaker 4: And you do see some people on the left. You
- 4:34Speaker 4: see John Buttterman calling it out and then you see
- 4:38Speaker 4: the hair splitting. We've literally seen some of the activists
- 4:42Speaker 4: on the pro Palestinian side here in our country break
- 4:46Speaker 4: it down for their followers how to slyly attack Jews
- 4:50Speaker 4: without looking like you're doing it by claiming you're just
- 4:54Speaker 4: you're just asking questions. You're just anti Zionist, you're not
- 4:57Speaker 4: anti Jewish. That's not really the position that that I
- 5:02Speaker 4: think works out in reality. We're seeing that in our
- 5:05Speaker 4: litigation against universities, is that people say, oh, we're not
- 5:08Speaker 4: anti Jewish, we're just anti Zionists, right, And you know,
- 5:12Speaker 4: but that's I mean, this is this is a distinction
- 5:15Speaker 4: without a difference in most settings. And so you know
- 5:20Speaker 4: said you not talked about it. This administration, this Department
- 5:24Speaker 4: of Justice is absolutely vigilant and dedicated to this issue.
- 5:29Speaker 4: There's no two ways about it, you know. I immediately,
- 5:33Speaker 4: you know, look open an investigation into the stabbing that
- 5:36Speaker 4: occurred a couple of days ago in New York. Both
- 5:40Speaker 4: a Asian person and a Jewish man leaving a synagogue
- 5:44Speaker 4: were violently attacked after you know, slogans were shouted that
- 5:50Speaker 4: suggested may have been hate inspired. I will say kudos
- 5:54Speaker 4: to New York for stepping up and already indicting that
- 5:59Speaker 4: individual you know, gone in for psychiatric evaluation, I believe,
- 6:02Speaker 4: But we're looking at that closely and if the punishment
- 6:04Speaker 4: doesn't fit the crime, and the Department of Justice always
- 6:07Speaker 4: has the ability to step in on these types of cases,
- 6:10Speaker 4: and so.
- 6:12Speaker 3: It is. It is sad.
- 6:13Speaker 4: You know, I started schools that I think I mentioned
- 6:16Speaker 4: this before at public school one O eight from the Bronx,
- 6:21Speaker 4: and you know, had a lot of folks there, you know,
- 6:25Speaker 4: from a diverse set of backgrounds. And to see this
- 6:28Speaker 4: happen to New York today, where I lived for many years,
- 6:30Speaker 4: is absolutely heartbreaking.
- 6:32Speaker 1: It really is.
- 6:32Speaker 2: This is the head of the Civil Rights Division of
- 6:34Speaker 2: the DOJ. Big time, lady, wonderful lady, our meat Dylan.
- 6:38Speaker 2: You know, part of my appearance on Box I won
- 6:40Speaker 2: after Mom Donnie, but I also talked about how I
- 6:43Speaker 2: vot about the Iran Warren.
- 6:44Speaker 1: There's these psychos.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Out there, and you have to say it. I will
- 6:47Speaker 2: Alex Jones and you know, Michael Flynn Junior, and you
- 6:51Speaker 2: know this guy Joe Kent. You know what aggravated me
- 6:54Speaker 2: about them before they even talked about what I said
- 6:57Speaker 2: about the war, and they're entitled of their opinion. They
- 7:00Speaker 2: all describe me as israel first advocate.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Yeah, that's submitted right down right.
- 7:08Speaker 4: Well, it's it's intended as a slur. I mean, I
- 7:12Speaker 4: would you know, of course it's intended as a slur.
- 7:15Speaker 3: And you see, you.
- 7:16Speaker 4: See, you do see, Let's be very clear. You do
- 7:18Speaker 4: see what we call the horseshoe, right, you know, the
- 7:22Speaker 4: parts of the far right bending towards the far left
- 7:25Speaker 4: and using support for Israel, America's long time closest ally
- 7:30Speaker 4: in the Middle East, as a slur. It's not something
- 7:34Speaker 4: to be ashamed of to support your friends and your allies. Now,
- 7:37Speaker 4: you know, foreign policy is not my portfolio, so I
- 7:41Speaker 4: will lead that to the experts. But you know, I
- 7:45Speaker 4: think that it's alarming to see the rise of this
- 7:49Speaker 4: type of rhetoric in our country, in podcasters, even in
- 7:54Speaker 4: some politicians on the right, even some people who have
- 7:57Speaker 4: gotten themselves jobs in the deep state.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Know they usually get found out in this administration.
- 8:02Speaker 4: But there really can be no sunshine between our government
- 8:07Speaker 4: and our allies. And you know, it shouldn't be shameful
- 8:09Speaker 4: to be supportive of our allies.
- 8:11Speaker 3: And I think.
- 8:12Speaker 4: It's really unfortunate. But you know, you're you're you're able
- 8:15Speaker 4: to stand up to those bullies pretty well. What's shocking
- 8:19Speaker 4: to see is your Chuck Schumer's of the world and
- 8:21Speaker 4: others like that, who you know, spent their life supporting
- 8:24Speaker 4: the right side of this and suddenly they're shut up
- 8:26Speaker 4: by others. And so it's that's concerning. That's just my
- 8:30Speaker 4: personal opinion, of course, and not speaking for the d
- 8:32Speaker 4: o J there. But as for the d o J,
- 8:36Speaker 4: every single instance of an attack on any house of
- 8:38Speaker 4: worship will be prosecuted, investigated. You know, we're going hard
- 8:45Speaker 4: against these universities. You know, i'msuing Harvard over their blatant
- 8:50Speaker 4: years of anti semitizy.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Is that is that still is that? Is that still
- 8:54Speaker 1: going on Harvard homies?
- 8:56Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, I mean so what happens is we have
- 8:59Speaker 4: we have law suits two lossits against Harvard. Harvard is
- 9:02Speaker 4: a lawsuit against us for cutting off their funding at.
- 9:04Speaker 3: The beginning of the administration before I.
- 9:06Speaker 4: Joined up, and then we have a lawsuit against them
- 9:08Speaker 4: they're refusing to give us their documents to prove their
- 9:13Speaker 4: compliance with students for their admission as a non discrimination
- 9:16Speaker 4: law from the Supreme Court. And then they're anti Semitism,
- 9:20Speaker 4: and so you know, they're slow rolling these lawsuits, filing
- 9:25Speaker 4: motions to dismiss saying Oh no, it is literally our
- 9:28Speaker 4: anti semitism laws. It is based on Harvard's own review
- 9:31Speaker 4: of its own anti semitism and it's actually quite clear.
- 9:36Speaker 4: But you know, the courts take their time, so you know,
- 9:39Speaker 4: there's just a lot going on there that I can't
- 9:41Speaker 4: even talk about. But you know, it's the top focus
- 9:45Speaker 4: of this administration to make sure that every single one
- 9:48Speaker 4: of your tax dollars that goes to these institutions of
- 9:51Speaker 4: higher learning, particularly these elite ones, is spent appropriately. And
- 9:55Speaker 4: that means it can't be spent to under my American priorities,
- 10:01Speaker 4: to give preferences to foreign students at the expense of
- 10:04Speaker 4: American students, to fund research that goes out the back
- 10:08Speaker 4: door to foreign countries, to subject American citizens students to
- 10:14Speaker 4: blatant religious bias. We will not tolerate that with a
- 10:19Speaker 4: penny of our tax dollars in.
- 10:20Speaker 3: The United States.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Good.
- 10:22Speaker 2: You know, the manyor more than once has called me
- 10:24Speaker 2: in Islama phobe. Even the speaker of the of the Council,
- 10:28Speaker 2: Julie Mennin twice has called me that. I don't even
- 10:31Speaker 2: know what that means. I don't care, because a phobia
- 10:33Speaker 2: I was taught has to be an irrational fear, and
- 10:36Speaker 2: nothing irrational about what I'm yelling about.
- 10:38Speaker 1: But on a.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Serious note, and the DOJ you know, I make the
- 10:42Speaker 2: argument for some reason, for some reason, But these politicians
- 10:46Speaker 2: like Mom Donnie, they try to level the playing field.
- 10:48Speaker 2: They trying to make it seem like it's even like
- 10:50Speaker 2: there were just as many Muslim attacks as there are
- 10:52Speaker 2: attacks on Jews, which you know is ridiculous. I mean,
- 10:55Speaker 2: when I was a kid, you know, black people were
- 10:58Speaker 2: getting attacked in the street, and I'm sure that's still
- 11:01Speaker 2: going on, But it doesn't seem like to me any
- 11:03Speaker 2: one of these other groups, anyone come close to the
- 11:08Speaker 2: attacks on innocent Jewish people.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Am I being naive? No?
- 11:12Speaker 4: I mean, let's put them to be very clear.
- 11:13Speaker 3: We will protect all house of worship and all people
- 11:17Speaker 3: of faith in this country.
- 11:19Speaker 4: And you know, there have been times when certain groups
- 11:22Speaker 4: are more under attack than others. My own community, the
- 11:24Speaker 4: Sikh community, has been the subject of violent attacks and
- 11:28Speaker 4: killings at our temples. But right now, the attacks on
- 11:32Speaker 4: churches and synagogues are empirically the most serious of the
- 11:37Speaker 4: problems that we have on houses of worship in the
- 11:40Speaker 4: United States. The attacks on Jews and it's really very
- 11:44Speaker 4: clear in our universities, for example, So we just have
- 11:47Speaker 4: to be very empirical about it. Now, there may be
- 11:49Speaker 4: other points in time when it's some other group and
- 11:53Speaker 4: the DJs stands ready to step in and help all
- 11:57Speaker 4: of these groups. It's the law and will continue to
- 12:00Speaker 4: fully and faithfully enforce that law. And so you know,
- 12:04Speaker 4: right now I'm going where the problems are. The call
- 12:07Speaker 4: us firefighters. We're rushing towards the fire and the fires
- 12:10Speaker 4: and the synagogues and the fires, the stabbings and attacks
- 12:13Speaker 4: on the streets of New York City on visibly Jewish
- 12:17Speaker 4: individuals and in Los Angeles and wherever we find them.
- 12:21Speaker 4: And so we are there to help. And you know,
- 12:25Speaker 4: I just I am proud to be able to do
- 12:27Speaker 4: this job on the.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Afternoon got I'm proud to have you last one. You
- 12:30Speaker 2: said in the conversation that.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Part of the problem is these people are voted.
- 12:34Speaker 2: In like mom, Donnie, and you're right, You're right. There
- 12:36Speaker 2: are too many young blonde girls who live in Williamsburg
- 12:41Speaker 2: or the Upper east Side, whose parents have money, the morons,
- 12:44Speaker 2: and they ran.
- 12:45Speaker 1: To vote for this guy.
- 12:46Speaker 2: They was so enthusiastic, and that's why he won. I
- 12:49Speaker 2: get very angry with people they talk about rigged elections
- 12:51Speaker 2: because I think this guy actually won. But for what
- 12:54Speaker 2: it's worth, I had two very reputable guests in my
- 12:58Speaker 2: studio last week, car meet Amali Honik and doctor Naomi Wolf.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Both are very bright and both present to me with
- 13:06Speaker 2: a ton a ton of.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Information that mom Donnie never won. Are you guys looking
- 13:11Speaker 1: into that?
- 13:13Speaker 4: Well, I cannot comment on any ongoing investigations that we
- 13:18Speaker 4: might be doing, but I will say that investigating election
- 13:21Speaker 4: fraud and irregularities and voter registrations and so forth is
- 13:25Speaker 4: part of my portfolio. You know, and I've publicly stated
- 13:29Speaker 4: in response to the New Jersey disclosure last week that
- 13:33Speaker 4: thousands of people are on the voter roles who shouldn't be,
- 13:36Speaker 4: that's at a minimum, and hundreds of them voted. You
- 13:40Speaker 4: know that we're investigating that for sure, and so anybody
- 13:44Speaker 4: who has credible evidence of irregularities voter fraud, particularly that
- 13:49Speaker 4: affected any federal election, and of course, you know, many
- 13:54Speaker 4: municipal elections like the one that you're describing, also includes
- 13:57Speaker 4: a federal component. We look into that. We have a team,
- 14:01Speaker 4: a growing team of lawyers we work with the US
- 14:03Speaker 4: attorney's offices around the country, and I'm aware of of
- 14:07Speaker 4: of many investigations, and so, you know, the past, to
- 14:11Speaker 4: be honest with you, people have been shamed away. Law
- 14:16Speaker 4: enforcement officials have been shamed away from looking at these
- 14:18Speaker 4: things because we would get criticizing, oh, there's no evidence
- 14:22Speaker 4: of voter fraud, and some people would back down. And
- 14:25Speaker 4: then they changed the goal post after the evidence comes out,
- 14:27Speaker 4: this evidence of widespread voter fraud, and then you know, people,
- 14:31Speaker 4: some people would back down because of that. And now
- 14:34Speaker 4: that we have widespread voter fraud, the goal posts have
- 14:37Speaker 4: moved to u to the things. First they say, well,
- 14:41Speaker 4: it didn't affect the outcome of the election. I don't
- 14:43Speaker 4: know how Governor Cheryl can say that because we don't know,
- 14:47Speaker 4: we don't know exactly what the effects were. And then finally,
- 14:52Speaker 4: let's look at Trump. Let's change the subject to talk
- 14:54Speaker 4: about Orange Man Band.
- 14:56Speaker 1: You know.
- 14:56Speaker 4: So that's why they say when they've got nothing left right,
- 14:58Speaker 4: So we're not to be intimidated or to turn away
- 15:01Speaker 4: from any of that. And you just rest assured that
- 15:04Speaker 4: it's a top priority for us.
- 15:06Speaker 2: I mean what I say, We are so lucky to
- 15:08Speaker 2: have you as such an impressive, amazing woman. Harm Meat
- 15:12Speaker 2: Dylan Civil Rights Division do Ojay needs to be right
- 15:15Speaker 2: there with Blanche in charge of all of it in
- 15:17Speaker 2: this country. Harm Meat, I can't stand up nice things
- 15:20Speaker 2: about you. Please keep biting for us, and thank you
- 15:23Speaker 2: so much for this appearance and what you do every day.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Thank you so.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Much, Thank you very much for having me.
- 15:28Speaker 2: I'll bless you. I love you. That's our Meat Dylan
- 15:30Speaker 2: right there. I want to do love that lady. She's terrific.
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