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The Position Doesn't Make You · The Person behind the Position

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  Speaker 1: We know the titles pastor, teacher, CEO, line worker, professor, manager, caregiver,
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  Speaker 1: but how often do we really know the person carrying
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  Speaker 1: the title. Welcome to the Person behind the Position a
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  Speaker 1: podcast where we look beyond what people do to discover
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  Speaker 1: who they are, their stories, their experiences, their struggles, their growth,
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  Speaker 1: and everything that doesn't fit on a resume or job description.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Michael Chisholm.
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  Speaker 3: Because every position has a title, but behind every title
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  Speaker 3: is a person. When someone asks you, who are you,
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  Speaker 3: why do we usually answer.
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  Speaker 2: With what we do?
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  Speaker 3: We identify ourselves and others by their title. Pastor, CEO, HR, director, teacher, professor,
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  Speaker 3: line worker. The title tells us what we do and
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  Speaker 3: what someone else does. It doesn't necessarily tell us who
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  Speaker 3: we are or who they are. The position may introduce you,
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  Speaker 3: but it doesn't define you. So I start out with
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  Speaker 3: this question, are we developing organizations more than we are
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  Speaker 3: developing people? I mean organizations. They invest in systems, they
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  Speaker 3: invest in policies, they invest in programs, they invest in strategies,
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  Speaker 3: invest in performance, they invest in growth. But what about
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  Speaker 3: the people responsible for making all of this.
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  Speaker 2: Happen?
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  Speaker 3: The concern that I have gotten or The concern that
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  Speaker 3: I've noticed is that sometimes people get the short ended
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  Speaker 3: of stick. When people are developed, organizations have a greater opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: To thrive. So our question now becomes, what don't.
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  Speaker 3: We see when we only see someone's position. We don't
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  Speaker 3: see struggles, We don't see their needs. We don't see
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  Speaker 3: their strengths or weaknesses. We don't see their fears. We
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  Speaker 3: don't see their life out of work. We don't see
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  Speaker 3: the areas where they're still developing. We don't see who
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  Speaker 3: they are. We tend to see what they are in
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  Speaker 3: the position that they currently hold. So when I find
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  Speaker 3: myself in these positions or in a position, and I
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  Speaker 3: have to look at others in their positions.
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  Speaker 2: The majority of the time I tried to.
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  Speaker 3: Put myself in their shoes, I ask myself, how would
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  Speaker 3: I feel if what I was doing was being questioned
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  Speaker 3: at every turn? What would I need? Would I need
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  Speaker 3: more training? Would I need more support? Do I need
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  Speaker 3: more assistance? What would I need to excel in this position?
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  Speaker 3: And then, depending on the position that I'm holding, I
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  Speaker 3: then begin to ask the question, have I or has
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  Speaker 3: the organization given this person what they need to succeed?
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  Speaker 3: Have we given them the necessary tools. Have we given
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  Speaker 3: them the necessary assistance? Have we given them the necessary support,
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  Speaker 3: Have we given them the tools to build? Or have
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  Speaker 3: we essentially put them in the position and told them
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  Speaker 3: to figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: Before we evaluate.
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  Speaker 3: Someone's performance, we should consider whether we've developed the person.
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  Speaker 3: I found myself in positions where I was given the
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  Speaker 3: position and was just told to figure it out. I
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  Speaker 3: was given an office and was told to clean up
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  Speaker 3: the office, and then everything else I can find out
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  Speaker 3: on the job.
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  Speaker 2: And if if I mess up, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Something that I should have already known because I was
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  Speaker 3: given the position, because the assumption was I already knew
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  Speaker 3: how to do it, so I should not have made
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  Speaker 3: the mistake. But the reality is is that we all
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  Speaker 3: make mistakes, even if we have been doing something for
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  Speaker 3: twenty years.
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  Speaker 2: Because we're human. We make mistakes. We turn left when
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  Speaker 2: we should go right.
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  Speaker 3: We be quiet when we're supposed to speak up, and
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  Speaker 3: we speak up when we're supposed when we should have
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  Speaker 3: been quiet.
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  Speaker 2: I continue to look at.
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  Speaker 3: The person behind the position, and I put myself in
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  Speaker 3: their shoes. Where have I been effective? Where have I
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  Speaker 3: been ineffective? What did or what did I fail to do?
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  Speaker 3: Or what didn't I do that contributed to me being ineffective?
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  Speaker 3: What would I need in the position that I'm currently holding.
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  Speaker 3: These are the questions that I have when I have
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  Speaker 3: to come face to face with the person in the position.
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  Speaker 3: I ask them what do they need? And i'd let
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  Speaker 3: them tell me what they need, And then I look
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  Speaker 3: at what the organization is providing. What has the organization
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  Speaker 3: provided to help develop the person? Because the reality is
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  Speaker 3: getting the position doesn't necessarily mean that the person has
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  Speaker 3: finished developing. We are developing every day. We are learning
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  Speaker 3: something new every day. We went from the paper clip
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  Speaker 3: that popped up when we started writing an email years
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  Speaker 3: ago to now being able to put an idea into
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  Speaker 3: a system and the system begins to generate a whole.
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  Speaker 2: Idea based on our one thought.
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  Speaker 3: We have to look at the fact that the position
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  Speaker 3: doesn't make me. A position can give me responsibility, can
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  Speaker 3: give me authority, can give me opportunity and give me visibility,
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  Speaker 3: but it cannot make me My character, my compassion, my integrity,
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  Speaker 3: self awareness, my maturity. These belong to the person behind
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  Speaker 3: the position. Who I am affects how I show up
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  Speaker 3: in the position. The position doesn't make me so as
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking, a question pops up that simply says, if
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  Speaker 3: the position I'll hold disappeared tomorrow, who would I still be?
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  Speaker 3: Who is Michael without being a pastor? Who is Michael
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  Speaker 3: without being a former professor? Who is Michael without being
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  Speaker 3: an HR professional? Who is Michael behind the titles of
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  Speaker 3: revenue doctor? And who are you without your title? So,
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  Speaker 3: this podcast The Person Behind the Position will explore not
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  Speaker 3: just CEOs and executives, but it will explore persons from
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  Speaker 3: all walks of life, from all areas and disciplines, and
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  Speaker 3: get to know the person behind their positions, not simply
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  Speaker 3: their accomplishments or their resumes.
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  Speaker 2: So one question that I have for you is who
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  Speaker 2: are you behind the position? If you've enjoyed this episode,
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  Speaker 2: share it with your friends.