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Secret Black Projects & Non-Human Entities with Michael Roser · The Cryptid Huntress

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well, I have a fantastic guest here for us once again. I
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have Michael Roser here of Dark Hour Paranormal. It's gonna be amazing. Don't
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forget. Right after this show. After Hours has a fantastic program set up,
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so y'all be sure to go check them out right after this show is
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over tonight. All right, y'all, let's get to our guest. Michael
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Roser is the founder of Dark Hour Paranormal and the manager and content provider of
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Third Phase UFO Report. At Dark Hour Paranormal, DHP is focused on exploring
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esoteric avenues, unnursing history, highlighting the paranormal black projects, and more.
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And let me tell y'all, I got to meet DHP in person, and
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I see some people in chat tonight. I got Long Island big Foot here
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and Brian from Montaka Strange. We all spent about a week in Montaut,
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New York recently Dark Hour Paranormal. Michael was there, so please help me.
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Welcome to space Out Radio tonight, my buddy Michael D eight. What's
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up, Michael, Welcome to Space Out radio. Hey, oh you're muted.
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Thank you so much, Jessica round two. Thank you for inviting me
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on the Show's pleasure to be here. Oh my god, thank you.
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You're like me. Look, I usually I forget to mute myself too.
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So it's it's just a thing. That's what happens. It happen, right,
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it does, it is And you are one of the best of them,
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you really are. I really enjoyed getting to know you, to meet
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you, and uh man, you are very dynamic when it comes to the
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paranormal and all these topics that you look into. I just gotta say,
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well, you're welcome anytime. And yeah, we had quite a quite a
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week up in Montauk, or at least a weekend. And tell me a
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little bit about your thoughts on that, like after we got with there,
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because for the audience who is not familiar, Montauk is the home of Camp
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Hero where the Montauk Project took place. And we were up there actually for
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a twenty year anniversary of the USS Eldridge reappearing in a portal and so it
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was a wild trip. But what were your thoughts on that trip? And
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I mean, have you had time to soak it all in. Oh,
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yes, all right, Sorry, I know there's a little bit of a
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lag here, so I'm going to go on what I think I heard you
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say there. The trip out there was very unique for the lot of us.
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Now, initially I had planned to go out with Brian Minnick from Montaka
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Strange and Mike Colentino from Long Island Bigfoot. We do this every year,
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We've done it for the past two years, and we're usually out there to
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observe the bi rhythm, doing our own work within Campiro. Each of us
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have very similar goals and aims when it comes to this type of excursion,
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but we also have our compartmentalized interests that lie within those endeavors. So James
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drink I got in touch with him through Penny Bradley got back in in the
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wintertime and he asked me, said, you know, would you like to
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go out to mont Talk with me? I said, yeah, sure,
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absolutely, and he cited at the time a date that was outside of the
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summer, and I thought, well, I wouldn't mind going to mont Talk
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twice this year. That's fine. So as things got closer to when we
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decided to come out between August eleventh and August fifteenth. It just so happened
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that James decided to come out at the same time, which became very fortuitous
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for everyone because it gave us an opportunity to get to know each other,
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to meet each other through our experiences and through our personal characters, and you
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know, sort of how do I put this is not necessarily a basking in
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this energy, but you're you're definitely sinking in and sharing this energy with other
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people that are experiencers or have been, you know, through my projects.
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For to James in a couple of beautiful houses out there, I'd never made
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it to the other house. I mean, I didn't have to seem that
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everybody came a main house and then just slept in the other place, which
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was fine because that meant everyone was together the majority of the time. So
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again, this was a very unique experience for everyone, and I felt that
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there was a lot healing that occurred with our time there, and I think
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that was definitely my aim going into this trip, regardless of whether it was
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with this troop or not. That's what we were focusing on, and that
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was what the general motif of my second documentary on the Montau project was about
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the survivors and the healing, and sure enough, that's what I found when
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we went down there together. Wow, oh my gosh, So you've done
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documentary. You're on your second documentary about the Montauk Project or a secret space
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program. All that tell me about your first documentary. The first documentary was
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a bit more of a personal account. I was still very much in the
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throws of figuring out where I huzzle object and energetically I was being pulled,
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as I've mentioned, and ather Asian now between a different couple different spots,
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but in Connecticut and the shoreline there, and I've always looked out on Plumb
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Island, uh, you know, for my entire life, and and never
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realized that just behind that was you know, Montauk and you know Camp Hero.
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But that first documentary focused on the journey out there. I had Peter
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Moon in that documentary. He was within our excursion going out to Camp Hero.
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We went and visited the alleged submarine base that is now inoperable, but
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was apparently heralded as you know, one of the travel routes for how people
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were getting in and out of the sound during wartime and so forth. Obviously,
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knowing the history of this area was very militaristic, so of course there
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were other installations around Camp Hero that were connected in the same military fashion,
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but again it was a very personal account. You know, the first time
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I was meeting Mike long Island, Bigfoot and Brian Montaka Strange in person,
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and the synergy of doing this was just it was absolutely amazing. And I
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knew that once I had gotten on that ferry, even just to get there,
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that we had solidified something that needed to happen. It was like a
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lock in the key snapping in and fitting flush. And sure enough, anytime
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we've gone out to Montauk since, there's always been this question of oh,
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whoa where are we going to stay, how are we gonna make it happen,
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what are we going to be doing? And the synchronicity always brings itself
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together and we find that we get the most out of these trips just being
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with each other. So again, you know, when we had this excursion
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this time with all that extra energy with us, you know, it was
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unbelievable. And to be able to experience that with people who've been there or
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had connections to that area without being directly physically there. Okay, we'll say,
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I mean for now, maybe they don't live in the area now and
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then live in Arizona or California somewhere else, but have history with Campiro and
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Montauk. So again, that's basically what the first one was about, just
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going through that. We didn't really have access to as many places as we
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did through the second documentary you'll see. Uh. And I think that's a
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very big part of what separates the first installment from the second one. Yeah,
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very cool. Okay, So I think I vaguely remember the I think
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it was the first night that we were there, and we were hanging out
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on the back porch, and we we'd discovered that we're both friends with a
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good friend of mine, Jim Goodall, and uh and so I just want
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to say, what's up to Jim Goodall. I know we were joking arout
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about how it was going to be you're you're you're gonna be my dance partner.
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Actually we all know, Jim, Yeah, he was right. Well
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see that was actually yeah, which I was dancing with him. I was
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actually dancing with him at the Space Out Radio Vegas fan party, that's what
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he was. So it was a little bit of space out radio history.
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There was a Jim Goodall and I get into dance all night. I would
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have loved to have seen that. Oh it was so fun. Maybe you
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can go to the to the party next year. But oh so you and
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Jim uh spen a trip y'all a to Belize? Right, was it?
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Belize? Could you hear me? Are you there? Started to cut out
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a little little bit, you said, y'all went to belize? That was
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the last air Belies? Yes, yeah, can you tell me? Tell
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me about that? I can hear you? Yes, yes, Okay,
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good good technology. I wish I kind of known Jim through Blake and Brent
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Cousins. They've done a lot of work with him, and he was somebody
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that I had reached out to at one point. I think we had a
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phone conversation with the boys, you know in the background. It was abbreviated
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for what it was worth. But I knew that Jim was somebody that wanted
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to get to know. Felt felt something there. And it wasn't until Jared
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Murphy had designed this whole trip out to Belize that I realized I was finally
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going to get to meet Jim Goodall in person. Now, the curious thing
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was, you know, I had a layover in Texas, you know,
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before we hit straight down two Belize, and Jim was going to be on
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the same connecting flight that I was taking. You know, it seems that
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would make sense, right, And so I spent an afternoon with him over
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lunch, you know, just going back and forth getting to know each other
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a little before we actually got on the plane and got to Belieze. Once
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we got to Belieze, we just clicked. We became very good friends all
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overnight, and it seemed a very natural affair in meeting jim My Knights would
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end with he and I hanging out together. Let me put it that way.
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When everybody else had gone to bed, it was Jim and I up
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outside in the darkness talking about life experiences. I mean, Jim is a
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fantastic storyteller, as you you know, well know. I'm sure if anybody's
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met Jim, you know how good he is a telling stories. And they're
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not exaggerated. That's the best thing about it. I mean, he's very
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straightforward. His life has been wild and crazy enough, he doesn't have to
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exaggerate anything. And he's got fantastic ideas on how things go. Now we
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got into our history and you know, our interests and so forth. You
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know, at one point I realized, you know, he had a loved
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very similar the way I did, but obviously much more involved given his pass
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and his experiences and you know, growing up not too far away from the
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world renowned rotten sub base in Connecticut again had some of this influence there.
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So he kind of got that sense as we moved forward throughout the weeks that
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we were there, and ended up giving me a signed copy of his book
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on Submarines, which I have gone through multiple times. It's absolutely wonderful.
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I didn't expect so many lovely pictures, but yeah, that's that's how Jim
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and I got to get to know each other. And of course when Jared
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had his widow Maker heart attack, Jim was the you know, called me
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first and he said, listen, he had a heart attack. And now
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he was the communication before I talked to Jared's girlfriend about, you know,
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what was going on. So Jim's a solid guy all the way around,
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inside and down. And I'm very honored to be friends with such an awesome
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person. Absolutely, and we had him here at Space Dot radio on World
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UFO Day. That was the last time he came on and hung out with
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me, and we just had a blast. We did. We had a
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blast, And I just thought of something you actually were with Long Island big
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Foot Mike the morning where he got a video of a sasquash while we were
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up in New York. What was that like? Have you ever seen a
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big foot before? In person? Not four I met Mike uh. In
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fact, when I met him, his channel was relatively small, but he
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was just as ambitious as he is today. And you know, he was
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just putting content out. But the first thing I said to him when I
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brought him on the shows, and I said, all right, let me
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let me get this out of the way here, bigfoot in Long Island.
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He goes, yeah. I said, well, how you know, we
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think a big food. We think of you know, wide open forest out
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in Oregon or you know Colorado, or up in Canada, you know,
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somewhere where there's a large spanse of wilderness, and yet you have these hatchy
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areas of you know, forest down in Long Island. I said, how
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can this possibly be? Well, not only did I not realize that there's
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a whole section of Long Island known as the Pine Barrens, which is actually
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classified as a desert. I didn't realize how much activity Mike had already captured
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in his own experiences. So there were two instances that I can recall right
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now that I've been with Mike and I've seen something I can't explain. And
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the curious part about this is that when he shows it to me, he
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has an eye like a hawk. When he looks into those woods, he
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gravitating towards whatever movements there. At the very least from what I can observe,
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this guy is on top of it. So when he sees a little
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being, you know, huddling over here behind a tree or underneath a leaf,
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and he pulls out his phone and he's pulling up, you know,
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the zoom on his camera, and you can see this thing right there.
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That was when I understood that intertwining sort of magic credibly to the forest and
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the elementals and the energy that was there. I'll recount these two experiences very
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quickly. The first time was in the first documentary. I don't think this
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was actually on film, but I did see, you know, and somehow
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he had had caught this with the flashlight when of these little creatures kind of
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amongst them. This is crazy. And you know the where he did exactly
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the same thing we were somewhere else. It was actually come come look at
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this, Come look at this. So I'm gonna walk over the phone,
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and sure enough I see like like all bigfoot, but almost reminded me of
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some of the work that Brian Froud has done with the Fairy Oracles. Uh.
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You know he has the Fairy Oracle Deck, but he's done a lot
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of work. I mean, he was involved in the Dark Crystal and all
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this this sort of thing within cinema. But his stop I find to be
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very accurate in what I've seen personally of these elementals, so that that's uh,
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those are really the only two times that I've seen cryptids at least that
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I would classify as such that I certainly couldn't understand or it had an explanation
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for I should say, yeah, wow, did the depster Thank you for
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that super sticker. That's awesome. We appreciate you at Space at Radio.
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Okay, So Michael, I mean I know you, I know you have
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met you, and but I don't know a lot about your history and your
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past. I was wondering, how did you get into all this paranormal stuff
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and get so interested in what you do? Because I know everybody has a
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story, I've got one. What got you into all this stuff? Well,
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it was back in the early nineties that I started really paying attention to
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whatever information was out there in regards to esoterics. Arthur C. Clark,
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this mysterious universe, you had unsolved mysteries. Robert Stack was an influence of
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mine when it came to doing voice over work and then of course getting into
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radio. You know, shortly after when I got into college, I was
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bringing with me a whole host of different bits of research that I had been
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doing over that last decade, you know, from two thousand you back to
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nineteen ninety. What really opened the door for me was I was always aware
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that there was something more. And this actually created a lot of conflict with
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my parents and I because it was enough to be an unruly teenager rebellions back
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that I knew that there was more and couldn't express this or couldn't talk about
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this to anybody, or you know, at least circation and way of that
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conversation was very difficult, and it brooded a lot of hostility within myself,
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which was misdirected, as you can very well imagine, at the age of
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twelve, you know, thirteen years old. But I had the intuition at
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the time that I just said, you know, I'm going to ask.
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Because my mother had visited clairvoyance, you know, for quite some time,
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quite a bit of her life, along with my father, although she was
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more open about it than my father was at the time. So I knew
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that there was an element of this within the family. And I suddenly just
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ask my higher self. And I didn't call it that at that time.
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I was more ensconced in the religious aspects of things, that's how always,
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so we used that particular verbiage and language. I said, you know,
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what's what's the purpose of life? Right? This is a very simple elementary
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question. This is where you start in most cases. What's the purpose of
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it all? What's the meaning? And you know, I asked this question,
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you know, for some time, maybe it was only a week or
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so, maybe it was a little bit less, but there was one day
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I was sitting on my bed and I was I was looking I wrote it
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down on a piece of paper and I'm just kind of studying its internal to
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be. Now, it's a very nebulous sort of answer. It can be
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interpreted in many different ways. But the way that I took it was that,
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you know, life is gone further. You know people have mentioned one
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way or or other mediums or channelers. You know, we've we've gone through
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a set of ideas that have brought us to a conclusion that the soul or
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the spirit of a person, it's it's absolutely benign in preference to what we
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experience here in this dramatic play that we call life, and it does it
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just wants the experience. That's that's what it wants. It wants the experience.
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It doesn't care what it is. We have the preference, the ego
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has the preference, and we make convictions and actions and behaviors based on those
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preferences here. But anyway, I digress, because your question was how did
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I get into this? So I got into drun follow Melkizedek's Ancient Secret of
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the Flower of Life. The very first book I read was Betty Jet's Embraced
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by the Light. I actually had her on the show about a year ago.
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Was absolutely wonderful, And yeah, that that show was for me,
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guys, I know, but a lot of people enjoyed it as well.
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And at that point my mother said, you know what, I was fourteen
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years old. She said, let me let me bring you for your first
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reading. She said, I have a clay friend who would agreed, even
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though you're only twelve years old or fourteen years old, whatever it was,
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says, I'll bring you for the reading. And I said, okay,
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I would be curious to do this. So I went for the reading.
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And she felt that I wasn't going to be impressionable the way that perhaps somebody
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else would be. And this is why she agreed to do it. You
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know, mentioned things like, oh your very old soul, you're very connected
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to music. They wouldn't tell anything myself and I know my mother didn't share
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certain information about it. And you know, this has sort of opened the
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door for me to see how this thing kind of worked. And she said
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the most significant thing I pulled out that reading, she says, you're you're
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a natural healer. I said, well, what does that mean? Says
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you can work with energy. And we didn't have a name for it back
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then, like reiki that's a household name now it wasn't back in the nineties.
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I mean, we knew about modalities, but it was about energy healing.
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That's what we called it. So I'm going to introduce you to a
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friend of mine. I think his name was Herman if I can remember correctly.
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Yeah, I could be wrong, but regardless, She says, come
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down. We have a gathering at a Spiritualist church, which really wasn't church.
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It was a place where people just met and there were chairs and maybe
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an avy room. And she said, you know, we go down there
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and we practiced this hands on healing and we do it once a week.
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Why don't you come down and just, you know, see how it feels.
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I said, okay. So I met this guy and he had an
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incredible story behind him. It was in a car accident. Every bone in
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his body had been broken. He was in a cast full for eight months
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or something crazy like this. And then he got into the energy healing and
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was was going, you know, using energy to prep himself and not having
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any novocaine or pain through the experience. And I was intrigued. So this
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gentleman actually guided me into the world of energy healing. I picked up very
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quickly, and from that point on. That's when I really started to open
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up in a spiritual sense and I became much more of a researcher and experiencer
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parallel in you know, those existences. And yeah, I mean that that's
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where everything kind of started for me. Oh wow, it sounds very similar
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to how I kind of got started, and a lot of the stuff too.
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The big footing is I went to like a meeting, like a variety
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show kind of meet up that met like once a week, and uh,
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and that's how I met my team, a Bigfoot researchers that I'm a team
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with to this day. And that was a while back, a long time
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ago. So anyways, Yeah, and I was going to like places where
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you could like psychic fairs and stuff like that. I mean I got into
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some psychic fa Yeah, psychic fairs. Yeah. I think a lot of
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people will get started off with that when you get curious, you start wanting
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to like look into stuff, and you don't really know where to go.
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But then you're you have like a community psychic fair in one of the towns,
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and I think that's a great place just to get a you know,
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when you have an open mind, go go try it out. It might
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change your life, right, absolutely. I don't know if fairs anymore though,
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I think they have changed. But there are still gatherings and symposiums that
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you can go to and meet meet people of this. Yeah. Yeah.
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Or you could just show up at Montauk and hang out with a bunch of
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cool people that just meet and spend a week with them in a house.
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Yeah, like we did. Yeah, speaking of which, we got Long
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Island big Foot in here. Thank you for that super sticker, Mike.
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That's really sweet, he says, two legends, one screen. Oh my
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gosh. Okay, I'll take it, thanks Mike. Okay, yeah,
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he was with us out there too. That is too funny. Well I
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was okay, So, speaking of all this energy work and psychic stuff,
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I was watching one of your shows and you and actually I think you mentioned
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this to me when we were in Montauk. You had an entity attachment to
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you for a while. Would you be comfortable talking about that with my audience
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tonight and with me, because this is something that's very real. I've had
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attachments before, but this one really affected you, and I would love for
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you to talk about it a little bit tonight if you're comfortable, Absolutely,
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absolutely so. I released last night about a half hour show of just my
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testimony on this one particular entity that ended up following me home. You know,
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it's funny because you know, I often talk about the subject. I
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say there were two predominant entities that I've dealt with, and I keep forgetting
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that the house that I lived in with my kid's mother back in like twenty
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thirteen to twenty fifteen Harvard some sort of very negative entity which I think was
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human. I have my own thoughts on the origin. But regardless, that
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was probably almost more harrowing, uh in way of an experience than you know,
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when I'm going to relate to you now. But regardless it, you
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know, this other entity just overshadows in my mind any other experience. Very
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weird little, you know, after everything has been said and done. So,
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there's a place out here in Massachusetts called the Rutland Prison Camp. Oh
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gosh, prison camps, and its bands like that. They if you go
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out to this property, it's wonderful to you know, walk your dog through
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the woods. There's some hiking trails out there, very nice area. And
27:12
I had visited this place many many times prior to the incident that I'm willing
27:18
to tell you, and I generally felt a sense of peace there. Now
27:22
was known to have activity. And one of the reasons that I originally went
27:26
out there was to you know, ghost hunt. And this was back in
27:27
two thousand and nine ten something like that, and you know, I had
27:32
my own outfit. It was under the same moniker of Dark Hour Paranormal that's
27:36
with originated from, and you know it was it was a place that,
27:41
you know, just seemed to hold certain promise. So again, I've been
27:45
out there multiple times. And there was one day I was at I was
27:48
at work and m Okay or she and the actual of Elevan Hills Paranormal Investigations.
28:02
I said, okay, good, I haven't heard of you guys.
28:03
He said, now we've been around for a while. You know. He
28:06
gave me a couple of business cards to give me a call. It's great
28:07
and we'll make some connections. And I did so a couple a few days
28:12
later, maybe it was towards the latter end of the week. I don't
28:15
recall, but I picked one of the cars and I picked him up.
28:18
This guy was his name was Steve. So I talked to Steve on the
28:22
phone for about a half an hour, and I said, look, you
28:23
want to go out tonight, Let's go out to a location, Let's do
28:26
a little little investigation. Said yeah, sure, A right, I'll meet
28:29
you out at Rutland State Prison camp. Because again, you didn't have to
28:32
worry about the law going out there. You could be there and it wasn't
28:34
an issue. You weren't bothering anybody. So I went down to this this
28:38
location and you know, there was you know, up by the root seller
28:42
where we would park. I see this guy, an older gentleman, tall,
28:48
kind of spindily, and I'm thinking to myself, who the hell is
28:49
this man? This isn't Steve. Who's this guy? So I, you
28:52
know, parked up by him and I get out. I was like,
28:53
hey, how are you doing? Man? And he goes, hey,
28:56
what's going on? I said he I was talking on the phone. He
29:00
goes, yeah, I said, who are you? The name is bul
29:03
Cramp. I'm the head and founder of the Seven Hills Paranormal Investigators. So
29:07
basically what happened is I had two no idea that I called the wrong number,
29:14
so to speak. But this became very av and changes for both of
29:18
us in respect to the work that we would do going forward. In that
29:21
particular day, he brought out the obulus, and he brought out a couple
29:22
other pieces of equipment, and we were getting, you know, through the
29:27
word bank, the words evil or satan or devil. It is the first
29:33
time I had actually heard anything like this, and I was, for whatever
29:36
reason, kind of after a darker experience against some sort of weird draw.
29:40
I felt I needed to have that experience just to I don't know, maybe
29:44
you can buy but lunch short that day, and you know, a little
29:52
bit later on, I said, we're filming a pot pilot for televisions.
29:55
Uh, and you know, I picked the Rutland prison camp and there was
29:57
another place that I wanted to cover for this pilot. And he said,
30:02
that's great. He goes, Listen, if you're going to go back out
30:04
there, just be careful. I said, why he goes, because there
30:07
was some sort of faction or organization that was out there, obviously very juvenile
30:12
in their magic car and they rose pulled something out of the ethers that it's
30:15
a non human entity. It's not supposed to be there. I actually exercise
30:19
it off another investigator about eight months prior. I said, oh, okay,
30:25
well he goes, just don't go by the tunnels and you should be
30:26
fine. He said, that's where he hangs out. I said, all
30:29
right, I could do that, because the tunnels are off some ways from
30:30
where the root Seller is. I wasn't really interested in going over there,
30:34
and the dark is honestly you could follow through. It's about a six foot
30:37
drop. I said, yeah, that's final stay away. So my team
30:41
and I went out there. There are two other guys. I kept the
30:42
teams very small. I only wanted I want no more than three people.
30:45
And we started the investigation in the root Seller and we're just questioning. We're
30:49
just questioning, and I feel myself sort of growing agitated. I couldn't really
30:55
put my finger on it, so it just kind of let it go.
30:57
And you know, in the presentation I put together last night, I made
31:02
mention of an example where I had a lighter in my pocket. Apparently at
31:04
one point, as in questioning, I pulled it out and I'm holding it
31:07
in my hand. Now, if I were to guess, I'd say I
31:10
was probably holding it in my hand for about five minutes. On my kind
31:19
of sept he's going on here. Been aware of that. In you know,
31:26
I'm not two cents three deprive sitting in the dark year. I'd do
31:30
this all the time. So put the lighter back in my pocket, and
31:33
I started feeling a little weird, but I didn't really think too much of
31:36
it. And eventually, you know what, guys, let's take a break.
31:37
So I walked out and at the time, I smoked cigarettes and I
31:41
started and the other guy went over to the side of the root seller to
31:45
relieve himself. He returned moments later and he says, oh, my god,
31:48
did you hear that? I said, you're what I said, There
31:51
are footsteps that went right into the root celler. I said, where did
31:55
they come from? He pointed over to where the tunnels were. Now,
31:56
he didn't really know where the tunnels were. I don't think he had been
31:59
there yet. And you know, I kind of said, well, that's
32:04
weird. I'm standing right here. I didn't hear anything. He's like,
32:06
oh yeah, I heard him, said okay. He said, well,
32:07
I'm not going back in there. I said, well, yeah, yeah,
32:10
that's what quits in there. You're going back in there. Sorry,
32:13
dude. As I mentioned too, I was a little brash out this and
32:16
perhaps forceful, but that's how I thought things needed to be done at the
32:21
time. I didn't take into sensitivity, you know, how things might be
32:23
affecting certain people or dealing with the fear and so forth, whatever. And
32:29
so we went back in and I think, I don't know again making an
32:30
estment here. I think we spent another twenty five minutes in there, a
32:32
half hour at most. And as soon as we got in, okay,
32:37
this is where it starts to get really crazy. When you're looking outward from
32:43
the cellar. You have the door here, and it's it's dark, obviously,
32:45
but you have the lights from Wooster reflecting off the cloud cover, and
32:50
that's where you're getting your general that the moon isn't out. And I could
32:54
see against that a silhouette of these shadow people come filing right in, soundlessly
33:00
hit the perimeter of this square interior. And I don't really know how to
33:06
describe this other than thinking like an assembly line where you know, I want
33:09
to say, you're assembling bottles and they're like flying, you know, by
33:13
you, I mean, that's how quickly and soundlessly these things moved around me.
33:16
And as soon as I could process that that's what it was. And
33:19
we're all about the same height, maybe five eight, five nine something along
33:22
those lines. There was a bigger, bigger being that that walked in through.
33:28
That's all leading feet tall, if I were to make a guess,
33:34
and it was sunken in. The head was sunken in, sort of like
33:37
Mothman, but without the wings. And the eyes just very red, very
33:42
intense, and they glowed. They emanated this this light again within the red
33:45
spectrum. And the second that I realized he was there, he was woof
33:50
right behind me. And this is when I started seeing little pops of light
33:52
that looked like fireflies. And they were in the physical space. I wasn't
33:58
seeing this part in my mind's eye was in the physical space, but I
34:00
was the only one that was seeing them. But it was, you know,
34:02
indiscernible what I was looking at. I'm sorry, it was very discernible
34:07
what I was looking at, because the lights were popping all different colors,
34:09
red, yellow, green, gold, white, orange, you, you
34:14
name it. All these colors were there. At the same time. This
34:16
thing is now standing behind me screaming at the top of its existence, what
34:22
do you want? Why are you here? And using explicit expletives, you
34:27
know, like they were, you know, teeth in your mouth. I
34:29
mean this this thing knew its vocabulary when it came to that type of expression.
34:34
And I started getting really angry, like m M. And it's so,
34:45
it's said, and I get into the car and I started to drive
34:51
away with one of my fellows. There he goes those. I was,
35:01
something's wrong, something's off here. I don't there's something now, something's not
35:07
right. I don't know, man, you know, it was crazy,
35:09
but I don't know. I'm not feeling the exact same thing. That's fine.
35:15
And you know, they experience closer than night terrors. And I was
35:22
experiencing this entity coming into my dreams and you know, giving me experiences everywhere
35:30
from sleep paralysis to waking up probably sleep app and you know, i'd wake
35:34
up, you know, kind of catch my breath as if I hadn't been
35:37
breathing. I would go back to sleep, I go back into the dream
35:39
and wake me up again. So I didn't really sleep for probably a month
35:45
and a half. I was dealing with that exclusively along with other anomalous stuff
35:50
that was happening within my waking life. And it didn't just affect me,
35:54
affected my friends, it affected my girlfriend at the time, It affected my
35:59
my parents, my family, affected everything around me, and always there was
36:02
a sense of dread. And the way that I described that as if someone
36:07
was holding a knife to your neck and just walk around with you saying I'm
36:09
gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. You don't know when, but
36:12
it's coming, don't worry, and you get this anxiety that starts to really
36:15
ball up in you. And it affected me immensely. I became withdrawn,
36:20
I went into some severe depressional states. My mentality started becoming much more morbid.
36:27
And I wasn't in a place where that should have been the case.
36:30
I guess very wouldn't. Not. Your spots were just pounding into my head
36:43
and being reinforced by this energy through the experiences to weaken me so that it
36:46
could probably what we figure feet off of that energy or that fear. Now
36:52
a couple of things here. When I mentioned this to Michael Kram that this
36:53
had happened, he kind of laughed, and I said, well, listen,
36:55
do this not funny. I'm not having a good time here. He
36:59
goes, No, No, it's that they probably found you. I was
37:01
like, well, we don't mean probably. I mean, it's obviously it's
37:04
here, trick here right now. And he said, okay, so we're
37:07
gonna take some measures, we're gonna exercise this thing. I'm like, yeah,
37:08
you know what, you know what, let's let's you know what.
37:12
I'm ill, No, I'll take care of this. I got this because
37:14
I didn't want to get all these other people involved the way that his process
37:16
when it was just time consuming. I didn't have the time. I wanted
37:20
to get this done. And the other thing I want to mention is that,
37:27
you know, in respect to feeding off of your energy or maybe that's
37:30
why they're attached to you, I understood that this is that when you call
37:35
on spirit, regardless of what it is, and listen, I didn't call
37:37
for that one specifically. It just happened to hear my voice so to say,
37:43
they'll come. So when I finally turned around and face this thing still
37:47
screaming at me three months later, basically it said I called. I mean,
37:53
you know, you called, I came, what do you want?
37:57
And it was mad that it was with me for as long as it was.
38:00
Honestly, the more I think about it, I don't know if it
38:00
even really chose to be with me in that way. But I'm going to
38:04
kind of air on the side that, yeah, there was an intentionality within
38:08
this being to be with me in that presence, and so I, you
38:13
know, had took all the courage I could. And you know, I've
38:15
worked with our game, Tychael, I've been working energy for a very long
38:17
time. As I've mentioned before, forget about the verbiage. It doesn't matter
38:22
about the language. It's about the energy that you can identifify, and that's
38:25
just what we know it as. Right. So he was behind me,
38:30
and one of the most significant things that I can impart about that experience is
38:35
that they weren't there to save me. Archangel Michael and his Legion of Light
38:38
was not They were not swooping in to take me out of a situation and
38:43
you know, protect me, not there as a support saying okay, go
38:47
ahead, No, you got this, you know what you have to do.
38:51
You already made the mess, clean it up. So you know,
38:53
with this in mind, you know, I'm still in my mind's eyes,
38:58
standing in front of this being and I'm explaining in one one way, shape
39:00
or form. Listen, I didn't even call for you I was looking for
39:04
others. I understand it's the call went out and it became more of a
39:12
and I although in my heart of hearts, I was not having a good
39:19
experience with this thing. I don't know, Maybe it was the natural course
39:22
of that vibration. You can't have a good experience when this thing is around,
39:24
right, It's just part of the makeup of who it is. And
39:28
as I'm explaining this, and I did repeat a few of these things with
39:31
a little bit more vigor as I went through, because I started feeling stronger
39:34
as I saw this thing started to back away from me very slowly at first,
39:37
very slowly, and as I kept going, eventually it sat what I
39:42
would equate to be about a football field away and there was a darkness within
39:45
this landscape that it was in. Nothing I could make out discernibly any sort
39:52
of structures or anything like that, but there was a depth perception. There
40:00
was a spatial characteristic about this area of the space it was in that I
40:05
could see. And this is where stayed in the background for another span of
40:10
time after this, But it didn't bother me the same way that it was
40:15
doing before. It didn't come full force, so it backed off, and
40:19
eventually it was gone, and I had assumed that it returned to where it
40:23
was now. The other, the other investigator, Nicole, was mentioning that
40:29
he had to exercise this same entity off of was a woman by the name
40:32
of Joanie Mayhan, and I didn't know her name until years later when I
40:38
put it together that this was who it was like. I found her book
40:42
The Bone Collector, and I said, wait a minute, this is the
40:45
same woman. This is the woman. So I immediately got in touch with
40:49
her, and our initial conversation back and forth was interesting because there was some
40:55
excitement within the recognition that we had dealt with the same exact although it messed
41:01
with her twice. It's the first time with tens, I believe, and
41:06
the second time I forget how long it was, but she ended up going
41:09
back to revisit, thinking after the first experience, well we got rid of
41:14
it, it's back to where it's supposed to be. And no, it
41:16
was still there on the grounds and A found her again, so in regard,
41:21
I can never go back that space. I spoke to her earlier today,
41:23
actually, when I released I sent it, you know, the link
41:27
out to her and she watched it very much, enjoyed it. I said,
41:30
you know, I still can't go. She said, well, I
41:30
think it might be gone. I said, do you really want to take
41:32
the chance though, I don't, you know what I mean. She's like,
41:36
yeah, you're right. So again the corroboration have known. We couldn't
41:50
have known that unless you know, we had had the exact same I meant
41:54
to see. Of course, I did a show with her and we did
41:58
discuss that at length. Wow, wow, okay, this is this is
42:07
yeah, No, it's great. Okay, so you're yeah, your internet's
42:09
cutting a little bit in and out. So okay. So here's the thing.
42:14
Places where there's been a lot of trauma and a lot of blood shed.
42:17
Let's just say, I think a prison camp would be one of those
42:21
places in my opinion. And uh and to me, I would assume,
42:25
you know, we have a lot of cryptic activity, Michael. It places
42:29
like Civil war battlefields and places where there's been a lot of trauma, a
42:32
lot of bloodshed. You know, we had there's a lot of potential activity
42:37
going on at Camp Hero where all of that like torture went on with those
42:42
all the children there. And we know that first hand, from the people
42:45
that were with us, and from the activity that goes on there, even
42:51
the samsquashes and everything that are out there. I mean, we have a
42:52
lot of activity, but if that prison camp where you were, it seems
42:59
demonic, and if there are people, they're doing rituals and conjuring things and
43:04
there's been a lot of bloodshed and sacrifices, and Lord knows what's going on
43:07
out there. I don't even watch ghost shows anymore, Michael, because of
43:14
the demonic aspect of this. I feel like it can even come through my
43:16
television. That's why I quit watching Ghost Adventures. Okay, understand absolutely absolutely,
43:22
That's the thing that people didn't understand, and I still don't think a
43:25
lot of people understand that. I mean, you television is at sort of
43:30
portal, but it becomes a portal because you're focusing your attention on it and
43:34
there's a synergistic or symbiotic effect that that goes into that where and you know,
43:38
something connects. And Ghost Adventures actually found this out through experience, and
43:44
you know, you don't even have to talk to these guys. You can
43:45
find some of the productions these guys, you know, just they mentioned something
43:49
that happened, and boom, a plant falls off, you know, a
43:51
window sill, or the TV falls down, or something else goes on within
43:54
the environment that lets them know they're still not alone. I mean, that's
44:00
still there. And you know, as I've mentioned before, I mean what
44:02
they did in the way that they did it affected their lives in a very
44:06
negative fashion. You know, they sort of just went through the acceptance and
44:09
whatever extremes they had to. But again, what you're saying is absolutely accurate,
44:15
and as far as I understand, you know, that's uh something to
44:19
take into concreting. Well, it's quick. Oh I'm losing not here,
44:32
hold on. It's almost equatable to running through forests of razor blaze with your
44:38
clothes off, okay, and not realizing that that's what you're stepping into,
44:44
uh, because you know, at every corner there could be something there that
44:49
you need to deal with, but you don't know what you're calling up against.
44:51
You're just there willy nilly playing around, and you know it's it's not
44:55
it's not a place to do that. I mean when you get into the
44:58
paranormal world. So yeah, there's there's many different interpretations of it. But
45:01
I think there are some consents that we've we've come together with overall. Oh
45:07
yeah, oh Michael, Okay, so you're you're bringing up some excellent points,
45:12
Okay, because that's why I try not to do ghost hunting anymore.
45:15
It's just there's too many lower vibrational frequencies that could attach. I mean,
45:20
I've had hitchhigers that came home with me from being out in the field doing
45:23
bigfoot research. I had orbs that came into my home that followed me in
45:27
from the field one day. I'm convinced, and uh, and so but
45:30
what we have issues like that out in the field when we're doing when we're
45:34
in the woods doing bigfoot research. Okay, because there's a lot of energetics
45:38
out there that you don't need to mess with. Okay, you just don't
45:44
need to go conjuring things up. You don't need to go challenging things to
45:49
show themselves and all this kind of stuff and being just putting that frequency out
45:53
there of like anger or like challenging stuff like I'm just that's just not my
45:58
style personally. Like, And I know, if people want to get the
46:00
results, I mean, you're you know, they'll give you the results okay,
46:06
and it might not be so pretty and uh, and that could have
46:07
been life threatening for you. I mean it was. It puts you on
46:12
the brink of it almost in your mind. It would seem like yeah,
46:15
in a sense, absolutely, because it just wears on you. Yeah,
46:19
it just wears on you. And after time you realize that that was part
46:22
of the plan. The weaker that you become physically or within your own life,
46:27
the instability that floods in this is when they attack. And it's not
46:30
that they're not attacking already, it's when they turn up that dial and it
46:35
becomes even worse. And I mean, I don't know. I've come across
46:39
cases where it's questionable maybe somebody was was never the right, but we can't
46:55
really prove it. And these cases are not and dry the way that you
47:00
would think, you know, something like that would kind of show itself.
47:04
So yes, I do believe Eve that. Well, let me put it
47:07
this way. I don't think that it's the entity that it's actually going to
47:12
take you. Okay, it's supporting that whole idea, But in the end,
47:15
you just have enough of it and you you finish it, right,
47:19
you finish the job yourself. Because you can't take it anymore. We've heard
47:22
lots of cases like that. But at the end of the day, what
47:24
do they rule it as? Right, that's what it is. That's what
47:28
it is in the books. That's right, right, yeah, okay.
47:32
And so in addition to these spirits, these dark entities taking over people,
47:37
we also now are contending with And I see people on the chat talking about
47:42
like government programs, and you and I both we're both into light these black
47:45
projects, secret space program, Project Montagu. I mean, all these different
47:49
projects they've had. They can get into our dreams at this point and change
47:55
our dreams and alter our thinking. And I don't know if it has to
47:59
do with this towers or the WiFi or whatever, or the chem trials,
48:04
mean, whatever they're putting into our atmosphere, it's all of it. It
48:08
has the power to destroy us in a way. And U and I actually
48:15
did a show I believe my friend Barry Maybe Barry was on the show with
48:19
me Berry Littleton, But we were talking about demonic entities coming through technology and
48:24
especially our new technology. This out there, so they get in here however,
48:30
they can, apparently and H and so we just have to be aware
48:35
of that. So, yeah, well, at the end of the day,
48:39
what is all of this, right, is what is the technology that
48:44
we're using? What are the entities that we apparently come into contact with it
48:46
are around us? Always their frequency? Okay, everything is measured in frequency,
48:52
amplitude, vibration. You know, look at Tesla's most famous quote.
48:55
He even knew this stuff. Okay, but when you start see looking at
49:00
reality for the composition of what it really is, you start to understand how
49:07
all these things have a place within that matrix, if you will. For
49:13
you know, projects like the Montak project where they're amplifying certain frequencies and seeing
49:17
how that affects a human body or a human mind. For them to be
49:22
doing that and then coming to certain results and building off of that and staircasing
49:24
up in a type of relation, and well, today what you just said
49:30
is absolutely true. There's no fantasy about it. Again, the science is
49:32
frequency. How do you program something like you know, within frequencies? Will
49:40
you get a very narrow band of those frequencies that follow a set of certain
49:45
variables, And sure enough you can do it. And I'm not saying it's
49:49
that simple. I'm just using that those words explanations. There's a lot of
49:52
science that goes behind that and understanding how to pinpoint that. But by and
49:57
large, it's been done, and I wouldn't doubt for a second that they're
50:00
still enacting that in one way, shape or form on the general populace.
50:04
And it doesn't matter what country you're in. I think that they can reach
50:07
that. Mean, we've got satellites above us and all kinds of space junks
50:10
is floating out there. You can't even imagine what that looks like, right,
50:14
But they have the technology to do this stuff. Okay, Michael,
50:19
what do you think about let's say, famous singers and actors and people in
50:25
the media putting spells on people and things like that. Also, I mean,
50:30
it just seems like we have so many forces working against humanity right now
50:35
in so many ways. But it's almost you know, you see those concerts
50:37
where they've got the hypnotic videos going and people can't remember the concerts. I
50:43
think James was telling us about that, and who was it, I guess
50:47
it was. Yeah. They were talking about how I'm just gonna go and
50:52
say it the Beyonce concert, okay, and people of that concert could not
50:55
remember the concert. They didn't remember even being there. Total mind white.
51:00
Okay, they were, their minds were white at that concert. What's up
51:04
with that? Honestly? I think they're playing around with certain elements of the
51:08
technology that they've already been using behind closed doors, and they're seeing how brazen
51:15
they can be. Can we put this right in front of somebody's face and
51:17
act it and then have them, you know, without any awareness of what's
51:22
going on. And I think, you know, to take a movie or
51:24
any sort of entertainment, you know, concerts are a great is for this
51:29
sort of thing, if you were to think about it, because you have
51:30
the gathering of folks and they're there for one reason, and they're mostly distracted
51:34
by the entertainment that they're supposed to be in, So why not experiment a
51:37
little bit and try this? I mean, that's that's just a thought.
51:38
I mean, I don't have any proof or evidence that that would be the
51:42
case, but I could see them going that direction. But that being said,
51:45
we're coming to a point where, listen, we live in a duality.
51:49
Those forces are meant to go back and forth. The yen and the
51:52
yang are of the same bubble, so to speak. You know, it's
51:55
part of the whole, but you have to have one and the other.
51:59
So people say, oh, we're light and we're dark. Okay, but
52:00
what do you express? You have the choice of what you express. And
52:04
so it's similar to sitting in front of you a whole set of paint colors
52:08
and you're gonna say, Okay, well, I've got all the paint here
52:10
for the campus. I'm gonna paint which colors do I want to use?
52:14
You know, and the guy next he has the same paint kit and he
52:15
says, Oh, I'm gonna use red, black, and green. You're
52:17
like, wow, I'm gonna use the yellow blue night. You're still using
52:21
the same paints, but you're having completely different expressions. So, you know,
52:24
when it comes to something like that, you know, you have to
52:28
keep in mind that the Cabala is behind a lot of this stuff too,
52:30
and they're deeper within the origin and the foundation of the type of research than
52:35
many people realize or want to look at. That's what I find interesting.
52:38
Very quickly, a lot of people will get into the black projects. They'll
52:42
acknowledge that there was some sort of Luciferian faction behind it, but they don't
52:45
go through with that, they was, well, I'll look at the time
52:49
travel aspects, so let me look at the technology. That stuff came about
52:52
because of what they were doing within what I just mentioned. So it's it's
52:57
a big part of this reality. There are a lot of people who subscribe
53:00
to that in one way shape form. I couldn't tell you exactly what the
53:05
lore was at the end of the day. I know the energies are strong,
53:08
but I mean the opposite side of things is just as strong, if
53:12
not stronger. So control, manipulation, monetary gained, you know, physical
53:19
garnering of different materials. This is what drives a lot of people. But
53:22
it's indicative of the way that we think while we're in that third dimensional state.
53:28
There's a lot of different souls at different levels here, all at the
53:30
same time. And apparently, from what I understand, that's way it's always
53:32
kind of been. Yeah, yeah, I just I just had a thought
53:37
too. You know, when people are at those concerts and they're are even
53:39
a football stadium. You know, you and I had a conversation about I
53:44
think we were texting or something the other day about the spot where we did
53:47
the ceremony at Camp Hero and and I had remote viewed it, and I
53:51
found some like crystals and things under the ground. I'm thinking places. I
53:55
think that they feel this is just a thought. Could they potentially, like
53:59
they and like the people in charge here, put like football stadiums and concert
54:05
venues and whatever over places of power to harness all the energy of all the
54:08
people that are there, because we're like batteries, right. So I'm just
54:14
thinking they're they're harnessing all that energy, they're hypnotizing everybody that's there, and
54:17
they're putting them in like a theta state or something for total mind wipes and
54:22
control and whatever to go out. I don't know, I'm getting too conspiratorial
54:28
tonight. I guess no, that's that's a really good thought, because yes,
54:32
I think they certainly would and could and have put, you know,
54:36
certain things like that on power spots. I mean, Christ, you look
54:38
at where lay lines in their sacked and you'll find all sorts of monuments or
54:43
you'll find government balness. I mean, the pentagon itself is the shape to
54:46
goone. I mean, these are all intentional things, and yeah, you
54:50
can go down the conspiratorial end of things when you talk about that. But
54:52
again, where these people decide to play certain structures in architecture. Even within
54:58
Montauk Campiro, it was a sacred place. It was a sacred place well
55:01
before anybody came by and used it militaristically. The Native Americans used to meet
55:07
there. We had Council Rock when people would come from you know, scores
55:10
around and they'd meet there. It was a very community oriented stone and it
55:16
held a sacred property to the people of that area and of that era.
55:22
So yeah, they can definitely do that in respect to harnessing our energy through
55:29
you know, whatever minerals or crystals are underneath us. I don't know,
55:32
but again I think that's a really interesting thought and should be explored further,
55:37
absolutely absolutely and out. Well, if people want to explore you further and
55:42
all the stuff that you're doing, where can people find you? I mean,
55:45
this hour just went by really quickly. We still have a couple of
55:47
minutes. Tell tell my audience where they can find to you, and tell
55:51
me tell everybody what you're working on right now, uh, and where they
55:53
can check that out to you. Well, thank for having me on.
56:00
Has been absolutely delightful, and you're right, the last hour felt like ten
56:02
minutes. That's how you know you're having a good show though, right that.
56:06
That's a great indication right there. You guys can find me over at
56:09
Dark Hour Paranormal. I'm on YouTube, as you would figure. I don't
56:14
want to do the website thing. I don't do it. I don't know,
56:15
but anytime people have websites, I never end up going there, So
56:19
I mean I follow the channel Dark Hour Paranormal. I'm also with third phase
56:22
of Moon. I'm with Goofon and a Polisteria and Doctor J Radio Live.
56:28
I managed his channel. You find me in any of these places. Right
56:31
now, I'm working on two documentaries, the follow up to The Montauk Enigma,
56:37
which was the first movie. We'll hopefully we'll be releasing this by the
56:40
end of September. I'm hoping I might give myself the leniency because there's a
56:45
lot here that I'm thumbing through and I'll make this really comprehensive and the way
56:49
that I've edited so far is turning out that way, so it might be
56:52
early October regardless, it's in the very immediate future. And I'm also working
56:58
on the documentary from the trip to Belize and what we're doing with that moving
57:04
forward. In terms of Arcox, the production company that we Jared and I
57:08
and Jim Goodall actually have created to bring us back to Belize and really work
57:15
with some of these sites, and then to bring interest to those sites and
57:19
create an economy for the villages that right now have no jobs, no work,
57:23
and no income. But they're sitting on a gold mine of a site
57:29
that is partially excavated, and I mean, we want to turn that into
57:31
something that will bring profit to the mind people of that area. And that's
57:37
as much as I can really say about that at the moment. But that's
57:39
what I'm working on right now. Oh and if you're in Massachusetts, I
57:45
will be speaking at the Sale and Pericon in November. I think it's the
57:49
eleventh and twelveth along those lines, So if you're interested, come on out.
57:52
Oh my gosh, you're a busy man, I tell you what.
57:55
You're so busy and I love it. Well, they'm busy. That's the
57:59
way everybody. I'm not saying everybody should be that way, but but I'm
58:01
I'm proud of you man. You get you got your boots on the ground
58:07
out there for sure. So always always, Michael, thank you. It
58:10
has been such a pleasure getting to hang out with you and UH and getting
58:14
hang out with you tonight and in person back at Montauk. Hopefully we'll see
58:19
each other again very soon. So thank you for being here tonight. All
58:22
right, come back okay, Oh shoot, yeah, I'm totally there.
58:27
Okay, it sounds like a plan. Okay, listen, a great night.
58:31
Can come back and see me. Okay, all right, seeing Michael.
58:35
Bye. All right, y'all, that was amazing. I just love
58:38
Michael. You guys, go check him out. Let me get this banner
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off my thing right here there we go. Okay, don't forget that.
58:45
Right after this show, y'all, go hang out with the After Hours crew.
58:50
They have something to line up for us and UH and it will be
58:52
fantastic. Now next time, which is tomorrow night, on Off the Trails
58:57
right here on Space Dot Radio, I have the head of my team,
59:00
Trey Hudson from Anomalist Studies and Observation Group, also the author of the Meadow
59:07
Project explorations into the South skin Walker Ranch. He's gonna be on here.
59:12
We're gonna have a great time. That's gonna be so fun. He may
59:15
even let you in on a little bit of inside on me. I hopefully
59:19
he doesn't give anything super embarrassing away. And oh, the Depster, I
59:22
saw you just did that super chant. But I gotta run. You guys,
59:25
thank you so much, the Depster. We appreciate you here at space
59:29
dot Radio. You guys have a wonderful night. I will hopefully see you
59:31
guys over after hours, and I'll see all tomorrow