Ep. 72 | Gavin Newsom x Ben Shapiro – Is Newsom Actually a Moderate?

The California Conversation · Jan 28, 2026 · 39m

Last week, Governor Gavin Newsom sat down with right-wing political commentator Ben Shapiro for a one hour and forty-minute-long conversation about everything from their personal lives to politics – and it was as intense, fast-paced, and interesting as it sounds. But what might have surprised you is that our beloved Governor didn’t sound quite as radical as he is often painted to be – could it be that Gavin Newsom is actually a moderate? I'm breaking it all down for you in this BONUS episode of The California Conversation!

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