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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake up with a playing waune and the club on
- 0:05Speaker 1: nine four seventh.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Now, so the conversation this morning, if you've just joined us,
- 0:09Speaker 2: we well majority of us have kids, right now, what
- 0:12Speaker 2: are you doing taking them.
- 0:13Speaker 3: To school that's not a free school. You're paying.
- 0:15Speaker 2: There's uniform, there's lunch, there's extramurials, there's tutoring that you're
- 0:20Speaker 2: paying for.
- 0:21Speaker 1: And you have expectations about this child of yours.
- 0:23Speaker 2: And every now and then our kids go through a warble, right,
- 0:26Speaker 2: and even if they're not going through a wobble, there's
- 0:28Speaker 2: always parent teacher meetings.
- 0:30Speaker 3: They've gotten shorter Garner.
- 0:31Speaker 2: The days, I promise you my parent teacher meetings were
- 0:34Speaker 2: thirty minutes a.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Slot per parent.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, if there's thirty kids, forty kids in
- 0:39Speaker 1: the class, it's a whole.
- 0:40Speaker 3: It's a lot, and it's a lot for.
- 0:41Speaker 2: The teachers as well, because these are the same people
- 0:43Speaker 2: that must go home to prepare what tomorrow's listen, right,
- 0:46Speaker 2: So now they've made them shorter. It's in and out
- 0:48Speaker 2: of there. It's a tame with special it's five minutes
- 0:51Speaker 2: in and out. So you need to utilize that five
- 0:54Speaker 2: minutes to the best of your ability, right, you need
- 0:57Speaker 2: to be asking the right questions.
- 0:59Speaker 3: What other right questions?
- 1:01Speaker 1: That's what we're asking.
- 1:02Speaker 2: What other right questions will run through a few? Does
- 1:05Speaker 2: my child participate in class? What are their weak points?
- 1:07Speaker 2: Are they respectful? Who they spent most of their time with?
- 1:11Speaker 2: Remember we had Alison in here from Allison Scott, executive
- 1:15Speaker 2: principle at Bella Vista School. Yes, she was great, amazing,
- 1:19Speaker 2: We love her, Love you Alison. So we thought, if
- 1:22Speaker 2: there's one person that we want to hear from when
- 1:24Speaker 2: it comes to something like.
- 1:25Speaker 1: This, Yeah, what would she say?
- 1:26Speaker 3: It's her.
- 1:27Speaker 4: When children are young, there's a beautiful opportunity to co
- 1:32Speaker 4: parent or role release with the school. But you want
- 1:36Speaker 4: to ask the kinds of questions that would indicate that
- 1:40Speaker 4: your child is making their way in the world and
- 1:43Speaker 4: becoming independent in their learning and doing that collaborately with others.
- 1:48Speaker 3: That's why they're going to school.
- 1:50Speaker 5: So ask questions like does he take risks for example,
- 1:54Speaker 5: climbing or exploring or contributing in a ring time?
- 2:00Speaker 6: Well?
- 2:00Speaker 5: Is he fearful and how could you support him in that?
- 2:04Speaker 5: Do you want to ask what does your child show
- 2:06Speaker 5: interest in? What are the topics? What are the art media?
- 2:11Speaker 5: Where do they like to get fully engaged? How your
- 2:14Speaker 5: child plays with others ask the teacher, or do they
- 2:18Speaker 5: prefer to play on their own, which is not always
- 2:20Speaker 5: a bad thing. Explore or ask if there are words
- 2:25Speaker 5: and topics that you could reinforce or you could use,
- 2:30Speaker 5: or you could expose your child to at home so
- 2:33Speaker 5: that when they participating in new learning, you know that
- 2:37Speaker 5: they're getting that full richness.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Out of it. Okay, so those are the younger grades.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Because I'm not asking Mike list now your child intripan
- 2:46Speaker 2: asking them do they take rest? They're like, oh, ma'am,
- 2:48Speaker 2: let me tell you. Let us tell you about your
- 2:51Speaker 2: son Nevin.
- 2:52Speaker 3: In sunning Hell. Good morning, morning, guys. Are your We're
- 2:56Speaker 3: good Nevin? How are you doing?
- 2:58Speaker 7: I'm good, thank you. So I've got five kids in
- 3:01Speaker 7: almost every age group gen Z's alpha beta, so I
- 3:06Speaker 7: think I might have some valuable insights. My girls who
- 3:13Speaker 7: are in the twenties, I can't remember a single time
- 3:16Speaker 7: to really bother about them. My boys that I live
- 3:19Speaker 7: in and fourteen. It's a different ball game altogether. So
- 3:22Speaker 7: my questions are a lot. Yes. So the results have
- 3:26Speaker 7: said for me, it's not the most important thing. My
- 3:29Speaker 7: two excels disagree with me because they just push for results,
- 3:32Speaker 7: you know, over eighties and so forth. But my questions
- 3:36Speaker 7: are more geared along what's the child state of mind?
- 3:40Speaker 7: More so well being? Are they coping? Have you noticed
- 3:44Speaker 7: any difference in their behaviors? I get similar sort of
- 3:48Speaker 7: stuff coming through from my boys in the sense that
- 3:51Speaker 7: they do finish their work quickly, they're smart, they're not
- 3:53Speaker 7: working to the full potential, and they disrupt the class.
- 3:58Speaker 7: So my questions around disruption is are they being disrespectful
- 4:03Speaker 7: to you or the other kids? Are they being rude?
- 4:06Speaker 7: And the answer and normally know they're kind of more
- 4:08Speaker 7: playful and energetic. So my questions, I mean, I don't
- 4:13Speaker 7: fully agree with the school curriculum. I'm preparing my kids
- 4:16Speaker 7: for other things in life that schools I feel don't
- 4:19Speaker 7: prepared them for. Even my living year old. I'm talking
- 4:23Speaker 7: to them about business. I run a small business. I'm
- 4:25Speaker 7: talking to them about business because I grew up in
- 4:29Speaker 7: an era where we were told work hard, study hard,
- 4:32Speaker 7: be loyal to employer. Those things don't work anymore. Yeah,
- 4:37Speaker 7: And I'm teaching them stuff in the business that they're
- 4:39Speaker 7: not learning in the classroom. You know, people skilled how
- 4:43Speaker 7: to interact with people. You get a difficult customer, sound correct,
- 4:48Speaker 7: because everything is about selling at the end of the day, you.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Know, Nevin, it almost sounds like the teachers need to
- 4:52Speaker 1: see you, that need to come to you to see
- 4:54Speaker 1: how you're doing.
- 4:56Speaker 6: It, you know, to be honest with you.
- 4:58Speaker 7: For me, I just want a kid to be safe
- 5:00Speaker 7: in school, not being harmed, you know, emotionally be handing
- 5:05Speaker 7: our kids over to the to the teachers. I think
- 5:07Speaker 7: that's their job while they were with them, and we
- 5:10Speaker 7: do the same at home, you know. So the disruption
- 5:12Speaker 7: and I've noticed the energy levels of my boys I
- 5:15Speaker 7: know I'm generalizing, is much higher than my girls. My
- 5:18Speaker 7: girls would read. I mean, the boys are going to
- 5:20Speaker 7: be on the digital devices, which you can't stop, you know,
- 5:23Speaker 7: you just need to limit. But my question is normally
- 5:28Speaker 7: they've always been How can I say, I don't see
- 5:30Speaker 7: the structor but more energetic in the classrooms. If there's
- 5:33Speaker 7: a difference in the behavior, then then I would be concerned.
- 5:38Speaker 3: You definite to use your full eight minutes.
- 5:46Speaker 7: Yes, no, no, I could go on talking forever, you know,
- 5:50Speaker 7: so like before.
- 5:51Speaker 2: I go, you sound like but I like that you're
- 5:54Speaker 2: such an active present dad like you you you, and
- 5:59Speaker 2: also because you you've got five kids. Some parents lose
- 6:01Speaker 2: their esteem after the third one and then the next
- 6:03Speaker 2: who raise themselves. But the fact that you're still very active,
- 6:07Speaker 2: very inquisitive, you know, very hands on, and you want
- 6:09Speaker 2: to and you want to give adults, balanced adults to
- 6:13Speaker 2: the world. You know, we can give you a out
- 6:15Speaker 2: of applause for that. Thank you so much. Having thank you,
- 6:18Speaker 2: let us know when you open your school, because that's
- 6:20Speaker 2: the next one.
- 6:22Speaker 4: Found with your older child. You want to know around
- 6:28Speaker 4: the independence. So you're going to ask the teacher questions like,
- 6:32Speaker 4: tell me about.
- 6:33Speaker 3: My child's work ethic. Is there diligent effort?
- 6:38Speaker 4: Is he handing and submitting his tasks in on time?
- 6:42Speaker 4: Does my child present his best effort? How is my
- 6:46Speaker 4: child working with others? Very important because things become collaborative.
- 6:51Speaker 4: How does he contribute to the group? What role does
- 6:54Speaker 4: my child prefer to take in the group? How does
- 6:56Speaker 4: my child manage group dynamics? And then motivation and interest
- 7:01Speaker 4: in learning is much how curious? What what would you
- 7:04Speaker 4: say is his favorite topical interest? How could we support
- 7:08Speaker 4: that further at home?
- 7:11Speaker 3: Sure? Those are good, are very good.
- 7:13Speaker 2: There was a good especially the one around. Does my
- 7:16Speaker 2: child need to be pushed in order to perform? Right,
- 7:21Speaker 2: because you can have somebody who will get the seventies
- 7:23Speaker 2: and eighties, But after you've literally sat on their head.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Do they need the pressure? Need pressure to perform? You
- 7:28Speaker 1: need to leave them alone? What do you think?
- 7:30Speaker 2: Because I think as well, there's one skill set we
- 7:34Speaker 2: need to pass on to our children's the ability to
- 7:35Speaker 2: self start. Because when you're an adult, you have to
- 7:38Speaker 2: do it yourself. You're not going to have somebody coming
- 7:40Speaker 2: to you saying are you doing that?
- 7:42Speaker 3: Did you?
- 7:42Speaker 2: Are you going to start that? The only thing you're
- 7:44Speaker 2: going to get is when the results are in, and
- 7:46Speaker 2: that's like you or die here exactly, shut out in
- 7:49Speaker 2: Pretoria talk to us.
- 7:51Speaker 8: Hello, Hello, first, lovely to have you.
- 8:00Speaker 2: And I'm so glad because you're a teacher, so this is.
- 8:02Speaker 3: A great job to be a first.
- 8:05Speaker 6: Yes, I just wanted to say, it's very good questions.
- 8:08Speaker 6: But I'm always asking is the parents are they ready
- 8:12Speaker 6: for the answers? If I can put it that way,
- 8:15Speaker 6: because it's if you say, is your child working the pen?
- 8:18Speaker 6: And how do you say in a good way that
- 8:20Speaker 6: your child is not even opening his book, or he
- 8:23Speaker 6: is not even doing anything. So we always have to
- 8:28Speaker 6: you sweet coat it and say, well, your child can
- 8:31Speaker 6: do a little bit better.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Or there's a room for improvement.
- 8:36Speaker 1: This is a kid. This is a good point though,
- 8:38Speaker 1: because obviously, now, like we're saying, you ask the question,
- 8:41Speaker 1: teacher Carrot has to answer it, and it's not a
- 8:44Speaker 1: it's not a nice answer. Do the parents fight with you?
- 8:47Speaker 6: Then yes, because the worst question I can always get
- 8:51Speaker 6: is what are you doing as a teacher? What did
- 8:54Speaker 6: you do? And my answer is always the same. I've
- 8:57Speaker 6: been doing this for nine ten years. Everyone it's been party.
- 9:01Speaker 6: But your child, you.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Know, what would I do different?
- 9:06Speaker 6: You know? Do you get what I'm saying?
- 9:08Speaker 2: Your child, though, has been under the special sense of
- 9:12Speaker 2: skills and he doesn't bring them to class.
- 9:15Speaker 5: Yes.
- 9:16Speaker 6: And the other difficult thing also is some some children
- 9:20Speaker 6: are just not you know, mevs or something is not
- 9:23Speaker 6: very strong point. Sometimes they are very good in a
- 9:26Speaker 6: natural science and all of that, but yeah, the mevs.
- 9:32Speaker 6: You must put in some extra effort if I had
- 9:35Speaker 6: to put it like that.
- 9:37Speaker 1: You know, but have you seen a parent and you
- 9:40Speaker 1: that is asked the question like that and you've looked
- 9:43Speaker 1: at them and I understand now, like.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Things make a lot of things are landing.
- 9:48Speaker 6: A lot of times I can see. It's it's difficult
- 9:51Speaker 6: to say, but sometimes you see the apple doesn't.
- 9:57Speaker 2: The apples didn't fall at all. It's literally he's still
- 10:00Speaker 2: hanging under the tree.
- 10:01Speaker 8: Wow.
- 10:02Speaker 6: And it's like in our school also, we send that
- 10:05Speaker 6: messages to say your child didn't pass this assessment or
- 10:09Speaker 6: us mist behaving in class, and then a parent will
- 10:13Speaker 6: come there and say, Yo, what is this my child?
- 10:16Speaker 6: Then I say, like, didn't you receive the twenty seven
- 10:19Speaker 6: emails we just sent? And yeah, like they came there.
- 10:22Speaker 6: It is the first time they yeah about the angel
- 10:26Speaker 6: not being the angel.
- 10:28Speaker 2: Next anyway, you know your child leaves the angel wings
- 10:32Speaker 2: at home and brings the horns to school. That's what's happening.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Is a Delaray in Centurion. Yeah, hello me, Hello, Dela Ray,
- 10:41Speaker 2: how are you good?
- 10:42Speaker 8: Good morning?
- 10:47Speaker 2: Victoria's coming out tomorrow, Delaray, you're also a teacher.
- 10:50Speaker 3: What's your take on this?
- 10:52Speaker 8: So my take is a lot of parents are very
- 10:56Speaker 8: fixated on asking what their kids are struggling with, and
- 11:00Speaker 8: very rarely do you get parents that actually are what
- 11:04Speaker 8: is my child doing well in and what are the
- 11:08Speaker 8: things that they excel in? What are the things that
- 11:11Speaker 8: they're incline to?
- 11:12Speaker 7: Because I mean, I've got a lot of kids.
- 11:14Speaker 8: I teach English, and you have different terms where we
- 11:19Speaker 8: focus on creative writing and some of them struggle, and
- 11:22Speaker 8: then the very next term we do public speaking and
- 11:24Speaker 8: they excel. And very rarely do you have parents that
- 11:28Speaker 8: will actually sit with you and say, all right, I
- 11:31Speaker 8: accept that my child struggles with public speakings as they shy,
- 11:35Speaker 8: and actually praises the child and tries to foster and
- 11:39Speaker 8: say their creative writing.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Five.
- 11:41Speaker 8: My perspective is just if we could focus more on
- 11:45Speaker 8: what the kids are good at, we could figure out
- 11:49Speaker 8: things that they love doing and they can excel quicker
- 11:53Speaker 8: and we can not focus. Which it's not like we
- 11:56Speaker 8: shouldn't focus on other things, but let's foster the thing
- 12:00Speaker 8: thing that they are good at and actually ask those
- 12:03Speaker 8: questions instead of just constantly asking what is my child
- 12:06Speaker 8: struggling with? Are they behaving all of that? Find out
- 12:10Speaker 8: what they'll do that, what do they enjoy?
- 12:12Speaker 2: I'll tell you deliarate on behalf of parents here.
- 12:16Speaker 3: I think I can speak on their behalf.
- 12:18Speaker 2: It's because what you are highlighting here is the coaching phenomenon.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Right, we're a coach.
- 12:24Speaker 2: If you're a good batsman, that's what you're going to
- 12:26Speaker 2: concentrate on.
- 12:27Speaker 1: We're gonna focus.
- 12:28Speaker 2: We're not gonna work waste our time on bowling, right
- 12:31Speaker 2: because somebody else is gonna bawl. We're gonna double down
- 12:33Speaker 2: on betting because you know what, you're gonna be ab devilliers.
- 12:35Speaker 2: But now the thing about academics is that it's not
- 12:37Speaker 2: a team sport.
- 12:39Speaker 1: And and it's also I mean it is you're looking
- 12:41Speaker 1: at it globally, so the mark is for English, it's
- 12:44Speaker 1: not you know that's yes, it's broken down creative, right,
- 12:47Speaker 1: but you look at that marketing and parents, I think
- 12:50Speaker 1: parents just worried. Yeah, like we were. Parents are generally
- 12:53Speaker 1: just always worried about their kids.
- 12:55Speaker 2: And also because if something is good, you're like, okay,
- 12:57Speaker 2: we're good there, we find that, we find there what's
- 13:00Speaker 2: wrong here?
- 13:01Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
- 13:01Speaker 2: So that you must remember it's so easy for things
- 13:04Speaker 2: that are going well to also then go for you know,
- 13:08Speaker 2: to go pair shaped. Then everything is going pair shaped.
- 13:11Speaker 2: So we have to be focusing on something that's going
- 13:13Speaker 2: wrong to fix it with that, you know, in the
- 13:15Speaker 2: event something else goes wrong, at least this one is
- 13:18Speaker 2: going wrong.
- 13:18Speaker 1: I do like what Dela Ray is saying is wonderful
- 13:22Speaker 1: perspective as a teacher, I think because I do like
- 13:25Speaker 1: it because, like he's saying, he's using an example, English
- 13:28Speaker 1: is not just made out of creative writing. So maybe
- 13:31Speaker 1: your kid isn't good with writing or creative writing, but
- 13:33Speaker 1: the rest of English they are excelling in, so they'll pass.
- 13:37Speaker 4: Hm.
- 13:41Speaker 1: You're like, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
- 13:43Speaker 3: What you're saying now is it's okay.
- 13:44Speaker 2: You don't need a spare wheel because these four wheels
- 13:46Speaker 2: are fine.
- 13:46Speaker 1: No, no, I'm saying you continue to work on it, but
- 13:48Speaker 1: don't fix sight on the problem because also often I
- 13:53Speaker 1: think the problem is now you know, or it's this term,
- 13:56Speaker 1: or maybe it's this year, this great, but it's not
- 13:58Speaker 1: necessarily a problem that's going to be there forever.
- 14:01Speaker 3: I'll tend.
- 14:03Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, I get it and
- 14:05Speaker 2: not remember I'm a positive person and I'm the time
- 14:08Speaker 2: of parent who I don't care if my child doesn't
- 14:10Speaker 2: get ninety percent, that's fair?
- 14:11Speaker 1: Right?
- 14:12Speaker 3: Is he balance? Is he happy? Is he kind? Is
- 14:14Speaker 3: he getting seventies? You know?
- 14:16Speaker 2: Because I find seventy that I'm comfortable with. But if
- 14:18Speaker 2: there's something where you're getting thirty percent in.
- 14:21Speaker 1: You've got to work harder at that.
- 14:22Speaker 3: We have a problem.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to work in May day, May day,
- 14:26Speaker 2: all hands on dead, say your mine now, go back
- 14:28Speaker 2: to making your mourning and La and the club on
- 14:33Speaker 2: nine four seven