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The Takedown of Tamra: RHOC Pt. 1 Reunion Recap with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. I know, look as I'm like cleaning
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  Speaker 1: my throat.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be that kind of a day already.
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  Speaker 3: Like we're like, yes, yes, all the flaming out so
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  Speaker 3: rain drops.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you're in the middle of what elections I go
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  Speaker 1: through on a weekly basis, which is like we just
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  Speaker 1: have fun before we get started. So hey, alexis hi,
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  Speaker 1: Hi everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just rolling. I've been watching my I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna roll up my sleeves. Here they look better. See
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  Speaker 2: they look cuter like that, see little do a little fashion.
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  Speaker 3: You look good. You look good.
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  Speaker 2: I looked tired. We got home late, and yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was a long day last yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: So so talk to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they'll tell me all about Yes, you were at
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  Speaker 1: Tamra and Katie's Reunion Park One watch party.
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  Speaker 3: So tell the rain Drops all about it. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: you look amazing at the party, girl, Well.
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  Speaker 2: It's leftover hair kind of. All I did was throw
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  Speaker 2: it up a little higher because I'm like dude, I
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  Speaker 2: am and I barely flop some makeup on. But thank
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  Speaker 2: you for that. I look very tired, but anyway, it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: It was so much fun. I cannot believe Carlos the
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  Speaker 2: support that Katie and Tamar had. The line was literally
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  Speaker 2: out the door for them to take picture. They had
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  Speaker 2: this whole thing set where they could take pictures out
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  Speaker 2: door for the entire first two hours, and then every
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  Speaker 2: time they get done taking a picture with them, they'd
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  Speaker 2: walk over to John and I and want a picture
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  Speaker 2: with us. So it was almost like a two light
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  Speaker 2: step process. It was like Katie and Tamara taking pictures
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  Speaker 2: over to Alexis now we want it was. It was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of support shown and people that just you know,
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  Speaker 2: really they do love Katie and wanted to you know,
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  Speaker 2: extend that obviously, and they loved Tamara too, even though
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  Speaker 2: she's always the villain. But it was great. It was
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  Speaker 2: all positive. There were a ton of vendors. The drinks
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  Speaker 2: were great. They we did shush the room to to
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  Speaker 2: like actually listen to the reunion even though I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: hear it because people are still coming up to take pictures.
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  Speaker 2: But I had to watch it when I got home.
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  Speaker 2: But oh my gosh, oh my gosh, Carlos the craziest thing.
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  Speaker 2: I swear this on my life. I will never swear,
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  Speaker 2: but I will swear it on my life. This was
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  Speaker 2: the craziest part of the whole night. And John can
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  Speaker 2: attest to it because he was beside me the whole time,
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  Speaker 2: and Spencer was there so he can attest to it.
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  Speaker 2: So could probably Tamraw she was there part of the time.
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  Speaker 2: You have no idea how many people came up to
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  Speaker 2: me from that event. Probably a thousand people at least
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  Speaker 2: easy walking in and out and all the all the
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  Speaker 2: a thousand world more. I might be low balling that,
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  Speaker 2: but saying Alexis, we love you on Carlos, we love you,
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  Speaker 2: and Carlos your own thing and get off on your
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  Speaker 2: own and they're like, I mean, I was like, how
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  Speaker 2: do they even like all the people there were listening.
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  Speaker 2: I was so blown away. I'm like this is crazy,
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  Speaker 2: and I just felt so like happy because you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was tainted after season eighteen, but I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't given the respect to be shown the true story.
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  Speaker 2: So now people are hearing me with you and going, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's who Alexis really is. But it's it's awesome because
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  Speaker 2: also your podcast is huge, Honey. If seventeenish type of
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  Speaker 2: groups of people from the thousands came up and said
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  Speaker 2: the Carlos Show, I'm like, wow, so I.
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  Speaker 3: Actually terry god, Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I have a bigger head today, Carlos because we
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  Speaker 2: have that much love for our Friday podcast today.
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  Speaker 1: No listen, I'm actually like really emotional right now hearing
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  Speaker 1: that because I'm not gonna cry because I don't like
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  Speaker 1: crying on camera.
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  Speaker 3: But what I will say is this, thank you for
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  Speaker 3: sharing that. Thank you for sharing that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, want to cry?
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, hem.
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  Speaker 3: Roy and Roy, Okay, give me all the creams that
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  Speaker 3: I need.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's very very kind of everybody who walked up
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  Speaker 1: to you saying that. It's very kind of the people
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  Speaker 1: who take time out to listen to Reality with the
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  Speaker 1: King listen to our episodes every week. It means the
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  Speaker 1: world to me, honestly, that you are getting the love.
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  Speaker 1: And I do mean that. It's the reason why. Look
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  Speaker 1: when I did the first episode with you, and I
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  Speaker 1: have all this backlash we don't want to hear from Alexis, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, whatever, you know, you'll, you'll get over it.
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  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden it became like this
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  Speaker 1: is the duo that I never knew I needed.
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  Speaker 3: And then, no matter how much, no matter how much.
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  Speaker 1: Hatred that anyone receives on social media, I always tell
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  Speaker 1: my stars, my friends in the reality business, even you,
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  Speaker 1: it's not real.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it doesn't represent the real world.
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  Speaker 1: And our episode is constantly trending on TikTok.
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  Speaker 3: The comments have been overwhelmingly positive.
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  Speaker 1: So the fact that I'm able to provide a platform
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  Speaker 1: for you to really be seen after having such a
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  Speaker 1: very very difficult, challenging season last season, it means the
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  Speaker 1: world to me that that you're getting that.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you for sharing that, Alexis. And and and listen.
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  Speaker 1: Me, you and Spencer will talk because you know, just
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  Speaker 1: because ocs Andy doesn't mean we have to end.
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  Speaker 2: Are you asking me on a date? What is you
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  Speaker 2: getting ready to ask me, I'm excited about this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're married more man, I'm not gonna all John.
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  Speaker 3: To kill me. But listen, what happened date.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have a date with me, you and Spencer and Lizzie,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all four of us.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have a go for some and just.
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  Speaker 1: Like have any conversation about next, next, what's next for
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  Speaker 1: Alexis Blina.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, Alexi Janssen.
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  Speaker 2: There's always a future, that's all I'll say. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: as Janson and I do not do four swingership. So
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  Speaker 2: but I would go on a death lunch date with
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  Speaker 2: you at all plutonic, you know, and whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, no, no, I'll come to the West coast and
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  Speaker 1: we'll have a meeting.
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  Speaker 3: But thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get into part one of the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 1: of Orange County.
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  Speaker 3: So rain Drops, do me a favor.
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  Speaker 1: If you're watching this on my YouTube channel, okay, or
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  Speaker 1: if you're listening to some audio, take a drink every
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  Speaker 1: time you heard Alexis name being mentioned all this, I
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  Speaker 1: know if you're no bullshit, no bullshit, no bullshit. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, I just I just want to die right
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  Speaker 1: right into your name. I did account your name was
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  Speaker 1: mentioned six times?
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  Speaker 3: You counted yes, because.
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  Speaker 1: Look, sister, what is so fascinating about all of this
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  Speaker 1: is the fact that, and this may sound strange to
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  Speaker 1: the audience, but it's true your name was mentioned more
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  Speaker 1: in part one of this reunion that you weren't on
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  Speaker 1: all season, then last year's.
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  Speaker 3: Part one reunion where you were featured. But I want
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  Speaker 3: to ask you this.
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  Speaker 1: Did that it felt Listen, it felt strange to me,
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  Speaker 1: But I need to ask you how how how doesn't
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  Speaker 1: it feel to know your name was mentioned six times
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  Speaker 1: and you weren't even a part of the season.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of how I felt the whole season, though,
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  Speaker 2: Carlos is like I was like, I felt like even
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  Speaker 2: if I wasn't recapping with you, by the phone calls
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  Speaker 2: I would get after every episode, they would say, Alexis
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  Speaker 2: you need to watch this episode because you were brought
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  Speaker 2: up again. Oh you were brought up seven, you know,
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  Speaker 2: three times this one. So I felt like I would
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  Speaker 2: have had to watch it even if I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: this recap, you know, thing that you and I are doing,
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  Speaker 2: because it was like I was I am still such
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  Speaker 2: a part of the of the show, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: part of it's kind of like annoying because a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things said I'm not there to rebuttal and be like, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's not true, because if anyone's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: truth teller, you know it's going to be me. And
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  Speaker 2: guess what, I don't mean. I do not mind being
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  Speaker 2: called the receipt crazy woman. I will bring receipts for
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  Speaker 2: whatever I say. So I really have a hard time
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  Speaker 2: with the fact that like my name's brought up and
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  Speaker 2: then things are distorted or not true, like there's a
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  Speaker 2: couple on this for you, and that I'm like, no
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  Speaker 2: one with Jen, one with Katie, and I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to go backwards with them because we're all moving forward
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  Speaker 2: as we can see. But I'm still going to claim
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  Speaker 2: the truth because I didn't have the two million, three
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  Speaker 2: million viewership that the reunion got last night. But guess what,
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  Speaker 2: I still do have a voice and I am I
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  Speaker 2: am going to tell the truth about it. So it
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  Speaker 2: just it just it's mixed emotions. It's kind of funny,
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  Speaker 2: then it's kind of angry. It angries me a little
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  Speaker 2: bit at some point, so but then it's like it's
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  Speaker 2: also kind of like, well, y'all still kind of like
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  Speaker 2: me or have something to say about me.
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  Speaker 3: So no, listen. As a producer, I need you to
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  Speaker 3: know this. I listen. I'm not some like you know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not Miss.
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  Speaker 1: Cleo right, I'm not some true teller. I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: psychic a part of the Dion Worwick Network. But what
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  Speaker 1: I will say is this when Andy Cohen said, Alexis
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  Speaker 1: texted me, oh my god, the re seating chart, you
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  Speaker 1: know what happened?
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  Speaker 2: I was I was shitting bricks. I'm not kidding you.
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  Speaker 2: I I was texting one of my friends that wasn't
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  Speaker 2: watching it or didn't know the latest was just like
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  Speaker 2: and her name begins with an A. Also is like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: what's did you see the seating chart yet? I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I screenshot at the Senate to her. The next thing
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  Speaker 2: I know, my my phone pings. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be her, and it pings and it's Auntie and he's
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  Speaker 2: like question mark. And I'm like, oh my god, I
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  Speaker 2: said to to Andy Cohen and he knows the seating
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  Speaker 2: Charty's freaking. They're booming right now. That's the reunion. And
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  Speaker 2: soon then I just said, oh my gosh, Andy, I
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  Speaker 2: am super embarrassed. I'm so sorry. I know you're in
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  Speaker 2: the reunion right now. That was just someone else. And
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  Speaker 2: then he he texted me right back and he's laughing
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, he's like, so, what do you think
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  Speaker 2: of the seating chart? And I go I gave him
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  Speaker 2: like a winkie eye and said, I think you guys
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  Speaker 2: know what you're doing like that. I really did, like
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  Speaker 2: almost crap my pants. I'm not kidding. I was so humiliated.
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  Speaker 2: And then I just I thought I have to just
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  Speaker 2: laugh it off.
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  Speaker 1: But no, but I thought that anybody who knows you
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  Speaker 1: in real life knows that that is so Alexis Jansen, Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's just.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's what makes you, what makes you you, It's the
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  Speaker 1: quirkiness of your personality. And I want to say this,
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  Speaker 1: Alexis is the fact that they kept it in the episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's hysterical that they left it into
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  Speaker 2: because they think they want to show once again there's
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  Speaker 2: the ditsy side of Alexis just popping into the episode.
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  Speaker 3: No, it was so good. It was so good. It
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  Speaker 3: was so good.
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  Speaker 1: But I love the fact that they kept it in
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  Speaker 1: because it made me feel like listen. They do love you,
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  Speaker 1: and I know sometimes it feels the opposite, but I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted you to know, as a producer, to keep
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  Speaker 1: that in, I thought spoke volume.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I have to say about that.
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  Speaker 2: But let me tell you one other behind the scenes
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  Speaker 2: real quick that you don't know because they didn't keep
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  Speaker 2: it in, but I thought they. I thought they might,
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  Speaker 2: and I was apologizing to Tamor for it. But so
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  Speaker 2: I know that she's you know, I woke up at
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  Speaker 2: seven was going to text her then that morning just
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  Speaker 2: to like say hi, and a prayer and wish your
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  Speaker 2: good luck, and then I fell back asleep after I
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  Speaker 2: sent my kids to school, and I woke up at
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  Speaker 2: like eight forty or something, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: they're going on set at nine. So I quickly text
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  Speaker 2: her and I'm like, I sent her this prayer, and
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  Speaker 2: so she starts reading it, I guess, and the cameras
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  Speaker 2: are in there. I have no clue, Like, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: she's probably walking out on set right now, and it's
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  Speaker 2: going to read it like she's going to be on
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  Speaker 2: the set or what. I don't know, but I just
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  Speaker 2: sent it and she texts me back and she goes, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my gosh, started crying. They're in here filming me right now,
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  Speaker 2: and they asked me to read it, and and I go,
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  Speaker 2: I am so sorry, because the last thing you want
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  Speaker 2: if you've spent two hours in makeup is to be
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  Speaker 2: like crying right before you're And then I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I probably just messed up her whole mojo, and and
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  Speaker 2: she just said, no, it's totally good. I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: I needed that, thank you, and you know, and and
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking, oh my gosh, they're going to air that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like I didn't even I didn't even perfect
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  Speaker 2: the prayer to be like sound good for TV, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But I was just like telling her how, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like go get them now, and you know, I'm praying
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  Speaker 2: for your tongue to be guarded and I'm praying for
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  Speaker 2: you to say what you need to say in a
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  Speaker 2: kind way. And then yeah, so that's another behind the
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  Speaker 2: scenes moment. So it's just, you know, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Very lovely, weird friendship.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: We got to get into your wedding day being mentioned
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  Speaker 1: at the top of the reunion. You know, Andy did
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  Speaker 1: ask about your wedding to Tamra. When Tamra said is
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  Speaker 1: one of the best weddings she's been to, tam was like, look,
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  Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable talking about the wedding in front of Shannon,
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  Speaker 1: and Shannon was like, no, it was all good.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was a beautiful wedding.
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  Speaker 1: And then they ask her if John was wearing good
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  Speaker 1: Paragamo shoes that she mented she.
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  Speaker 3: Got on sale.
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  Speaker 1: So how did it feel to hear Shannon compliment your
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  Speaker 1: wedding And did you feel like she, you know, was
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  Speaker 1: being genuine?
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  Speaker 2: I don't really know, And I mean, I'm glad that
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  Speaker 2: it feels like she can finally move on. And hopefully
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  Speaker 2: now next season, if she's back on the show, she'll
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  Speaker 2: leave my husband's name out of her mouth because it
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  Speaker 2: makes her look kind of like an idiot to bring
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  Speaker 2: him up this many years later and after he's like
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  Speaker 2: fully married. So hopefully that has been a lesson for
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  Speaker 2: her watching it play back this season. But I did
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  Speaker 2: feel like I did feel like she meant it, because
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  Speaker 2: there's no one that can say my wedding was beautiful
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  Speaker 2: and think they're lying because it was beautiful. It was
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  Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful things that actually came together.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when you're when you're creating the vision Carlos
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  Speaker 2: of a wedding, you don't know till the day of.
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  Speaker 2: You think you have this vision, but it might not
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  Speaker 2: look like all the suits that we had made and
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  Speaker 2: dresses that we had and all the stuff we were
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  Speaker 2: trying to put together. I wouldn't know until we got
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  Speaker 2: everybody together for that picture, and it was like it
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  Speaker 2: was beautiful and how emotional it was. So I appreciated
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  Speaker 2: Tamar being sensitive to the fact that Shannon was sitting there.
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  Speaker 2: But Tamer's asked a question in front of everybody and
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  Speaker 2: has to answer honestly. And I know that Tamara held
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  Speaker 2: back saying a lot of what she really wanted to
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  Speaker 2: say about the wedding, just in respect for Shannon's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: difficulty moving forward with it all during the season. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I do believe Shannon that she thought it was
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  Speaker 2: gorgeous because it was.
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  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show now.
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  Speaker 3: Listen. It was a very very very beautiful wedding. We
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  Speaker 3: saw the photo.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to ask of this because obviously you
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  Speaker 1: know better than anybody Jen did mention that she was disinvited,
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  Speaker 1: but that she did text you the debut wedding and you.
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  Speaker 3: Text her back, but clear of the story for us
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  Speaker 3: what really happened.
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  Speaker 2: You know. And that's the part that's frustrating when I'm
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  Speaker 2: on a show being mentioned and talked about when I'm
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  Speaker 2: not there to say my side of it and actually
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  Speaker 2: say the truth. Because the one thing everyone knows is
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna If I'm going to talk about something, I
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  Speaker 2: will bring receipts. So if I need to bring receipts
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  Speaker 2: on my phone from all the text to prove anything
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  Speaker 2: on this conversation, I will do that. I don't care
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  Speaker 2: if I'm called, you know, a receipt freak or whatever
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  Speaker 2: they want to say. Yeah, if you're going to talk,
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  Speaker 2: have the truth behind you. So anyway, the part that
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  Speaker 2: bothered me what Jen said at the reunion was I
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  Speaker 2: had heard that her and Shannon were talking or something
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: like that, and I can't remember her words for batim,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: and that's why I disinvited her. But Carlos, I have
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: the text chain that I can post if everybody would
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: like me to, which I don't really want to go
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: that deep, So just trust me. But basically what happened
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: is Jen and I were talking every day. Okay, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: didn't know it was all happening behind the scenes. That's her,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: you know, her truth, because that's what was happening. That's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: why she distanced herself from me is because she was
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: getting close to Shannon. However, we're grown adult, so I
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: would have thought she wouldn't have to distance herself from me.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: We could be friends with both, you know, like you
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: can do both. Anyway, I'm texting her, she doesn't answer.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: One day, I'm text her again, she doesn't answer. That
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: day I call her, she didn't answer the phone. It
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: was all kind of weird because it was like three
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: or four in about a week or two time period.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: But I also get that we're busy moms and she's
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: got a freakin' football team for her as her children
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: and dogs. Okay, So I totally didn't think anything about it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Was not even worried about anything like what she said
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: about of friendship. I didn't think she had that in
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: her to break up my friendship with her over Shannon,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: because I thought she was more and I think she
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: is and she now regrets it, but I thought she
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: was more mature than that, honestly. So then I go
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: in for my you know, my surgery for my breast
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: when I had the medical emergency kind of thing I had,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I had to have a boob job because it encapsulated
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: so and rupture. So anyways, I text her and I'm like, Okay,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: it's now. It's really weird. You know, I'm going in
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: for surgery. I really wanted to catch up with you before,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you know, I go in and but I'll be recovering.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Let's talk right after crickets. She did not call to
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: check on me. When we would have cramps. We would
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: call each other and be in the like carpool. I'm like,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I have the worst cramps right now,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: this and that, and complain and check in on each other,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: how's your headache now? Kind of thing. Did not reach
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: out at all. After my surgery. That's when I said
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm five months away from my wedding. This
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: friend that's on a very select guest list that I
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: have to keep it at a certain quota because of
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: the room size that where we chose to get married,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: it was it was a one fifty massive main capacity,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: and for me, I wanted it to be at about
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: one twenty because of I didn't want people like sardines
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: in there. We still ended up at one fifty. But
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: here you go, I'm like, she doesn't deserve a seat
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: at the wedding, and she's not even gonna check in
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: on me right Like, there's a lot of people were
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: not inviting, So okay, you don't. You don't obviously love
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: it as much, so I'm going to take you off
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to bring someone else in that does
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: chuck on me. And I do talk to regularly before
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I'm getting married in five months. But then when she
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: texted me on the wedding day, well, first of all,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: some things that happened because i'd watched you know, we
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: got married, and then I watched some of the episodes
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and I saw her tell Shannon, no, I'm probably not
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: going to go to Alexis's wedding. That's when it hit
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: me that she's that is what she was doing. That's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: why she kind of ghosted me quote unquote for that
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: three week period of time, and that's why she got disinvited.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: So she admitted it right there, because she told Shannon
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: on scene that she wasn't going to go for Shannon. Okay,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: rude and immature by the way, and then you know
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: she then she gas lipped me during that time though
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I have to be honest about this because that is
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: this is the reality behind it. She gaspped me and said,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: why are you uninviting me? This doesn't make sense? And
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I said, how can it not make sense when you
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: did not check in on me after a after a surgery.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: How and you didn't talk to me for the three
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: two weeks before that? It was a three week time period.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: How does that not make sense to someone that you
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: get disinvited if you're not checking in on your friend
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: who goes in for emergency surgery. So anyway, fast forward
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: to now. So then last night when she said that
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that was the reason why she was uninvited, not true.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: But then when she texts me on my wedding day,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I do have a big heart. I do understand. We
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: all f up. We're all humans. None of us are perfect,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: except you know God. And I just thought, Okay, I'm
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: gonna you know, this is so crazy. I do love you,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and I do love her, I do care about her,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I love her and rying together. I've said this over
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and over on your podcast, and I can also forgive.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: So then I was sitting there and hair and maycap
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: literally and I'm like, I know it's never gonna be
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: She's not gonna be able to make it. How are
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: you gonna get a wedding outfit for this kind of
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: a wedding that fast? You know? And and then she
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: ended up being in San Diego anyway, but I'm like,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: you know, I wish there was a world where we
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: could have. You should have been here, you should be
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: on this list, you should be here, so you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: we need to talk it all out and figure it out.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: And then she's just like, oh my gosh, you're so
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: sweet and I'm in San Diego and otherwise yes, but
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: it's like, so we worked past that, but I don't
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: like when I'm still things are still not portrayed totally honestly,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Like that's It wasn't because I thought anything about Shannon
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: at all. I didn't even think she was in the equation.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I just thought Jen was not being a very good
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: friend by not checking in on me. There you go,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that was long.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: It's okay.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Now I want you to get everything out. What is
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: your relationship like with Jen?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Today?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: We have texted quite a few times. We have tried
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to call each other. When I was in Missouri, we
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: were trying to call each other and get and then
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: a couple times even now like we we I love Jen,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I care about Jen. I don't want us to not
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: be friends. I understand she felt like Shan now after
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: only after watching this whole season unfold Carlos, I now
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: know a sixty three year old adult woman was trying
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to ask Jin, my friend not to like to choose
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: a lane, which is very unacceptable and high school to me.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So I now see it all clear picture. I think
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Jin regretted it after watching it unfold two. I think
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: she also she felt bad enough to text me and
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: missed me and wanted to wish me a good look
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: on my wedding day. So I know that there's room
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: for improvement and forgiveness and talking things through and also
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: just growth of growth of ourselves, you know what I mean. Like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I think Jin probably and I'm speaking for her right
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: now because we haven't talked about this, but I think
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: she probably feels bad and misses me, and I mean
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: we had a great friendship. I freaking love her, like,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: so yeah, that's where I think it stands and so
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not. We haven't had time to connect and actually
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: have the talk that we need to. But I do
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: know that both of our doors are open, and we've
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: said that on the text exchange, like let's get this
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: hashed out, let's talk it through.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Well good, No, listen, I love Jen, I love the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: prenticeship you guys have, and listen, I don't think it's
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: nothing that can't be resolved. One thing that just cannot
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: be resolved is Shannon and Tamra. And once again, our
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: episode was mentioned without mentioning Reality with the King. So
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Andy did say, you know, Alexis was on a podcast
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Hi Bramo, Reality with the King, where where Alexis and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Carlos King both said, where you and I both feel
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: like Tamra is being iced out on the show. And listen,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I want my rain drops to really watch this episode,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: this reunion. Shannon, who was sitting at the end, which
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: by the way, let's be clear, Shannon did I like
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: being at the end, and Shannon hated seeing Tamara the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: front seat. That's why Shannon kept interrupting Tamra and wanting
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to get an edge in and that's why Tamra's frustrated.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not even talking to you.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Shut up, like leave me alone, because that's that was
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the case. I I stand on business. I do feel
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: like these girls are icing out, Tamra.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: It was evident this reunion.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Did you feel the same way watching it to alexis.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: One And the way that that you know is by
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: their eye rolls and their eye looks every time tamer
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: would talk. And then the other way that it's very
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: clear was when Gretchen walked out how much they asked
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: kissed Gretchen who is, oh my gosh, all of shit
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: all the time and does dress like a freaking costume
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Halloween person every day of her life. And they're all like, oh,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: we like it. You know, they make fun of her
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: behind her back, but they're like, oh, we love it,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: we love we actually think.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Let's see those text messages.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Heather's little dig. Heather's a little dig. She actually goes.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: It's amusing. I actually like how you dress. It's like
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: no woman wants to go or it's a music or
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: whatever the word was. I'm like, oh my god. Heather
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: always has a back end way of like like kind
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: of like saying something, but it's actually kind of a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: little dig, but she doesn't even mean it that way,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: but it just comes. It's like, oh my god, Okay, okay,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: now I thought it was crazy entertaining Carlos entertaining.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she says she thought that I was entertaining. I'm like,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: what are you been talking about here?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And it was it was so obvious because they need
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: basiline with how much they use their lips and kiss
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Gretchen's ass.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: It was so obvious, and it was such to me.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Camera out is what's happening, and that's what they're trying
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: to do. But here's the best part of this, Carlos,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: you never know what the hell Bravo is gonna do.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: They five, they I quit season seven, quit the show.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: No housewife quits the show. I actually literally quit. This
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: is the honesty, god truth. I have emails and texts
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to prove it. They then called me back and begged
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: me back for season eight, begged like we it was
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: a lot, and I kept saying no, okay, so you
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: don't know what brob and then they fired me season eight.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: At the end of season eight, then they fired me,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: so quit season seven. They begged me back, fired me
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: season eight. You have that hot after all that work
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: they had to go through to get me back on
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: season eight. It's like it's like you never know what's
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: going on in their mind. You don't know, and they're honestly,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: they're the best at this because look at how it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: twentieth season coming up. They know what they're doing, so
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter what the women on the cast
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna do. I'm sorry if you think you
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: ice Katie out, she's gone, baby cakes. I don't think so.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: You should have seen the love she was getting last
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: night at that at that event. You should see there
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: is something about they do not like. The fans don't
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: like what happened to Katie, So you don't know. She
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: could very well be back in Girls. If you want
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to film and you want to be on the show,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you better buckle up and film with her and not
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: try to ice her up. Same thing with Tamra. I'm sorry,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: she's not the longest standing housewife for no reason, Carlos.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: She's the only one that carries the show. But the
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: girls don't like that she keeps truth and facts in
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: her brain. They want things to be overlooked and they
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: want the show to go a little bit more like
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: not so like, Okay, well, if you're gonna call me
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: out about this, I'm gonna tell the truth about that too.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Like they want more of a I think, more of
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: like a vanilla show or something. But that's not what's
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: going to keep.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: No, listen, Tamra's necessary from the show. But it just
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: nawned on me. You and Katie saw each other last night.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: How was that?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've already been texting because when I got
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: invited to the event, Tamar obviously invited me. I'm one
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: of her closest friends, and so I texted Katie and
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I just said I don't have it. I don't have
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: it memorized, obviously, but I said something like, Hey, just
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: wanted you to know I'm excited Tamar invited me to
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: your event. I'm gonna come, and I want to support
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you too, and I'm excited to support you something like that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: And then she texted back, you know, and said whatever,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: because here's the honest truth. I think in her mind,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: this is another point I wanted to make. Oh good,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: this is good. I didn't even know this would come up,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: but this is where it's gonna come up, brain drops,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: tune in on this one. Okay, turn those ears on. Okay.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: So last night at the reunion, it was like like
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: when Katie said, I did not play it for Alexis,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I would love her to say what Shannon said then,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and then Andy goes, well, let's play it. Well, I'm
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: gonna tell you what Shannon said, because I did hear
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the mimo, the voice memo, and I'm not crazy, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not I mean, and by the way, it's been
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: a year and a half now that I heard it,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: but it was what I do remember is I know
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: who she was talking to. How would I know that
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: if I didn't hear it. Second of all, Shannon was screaming,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Alexis Bolina is here, she's here. This is not good
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: for my mental health. And I don't know why we
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: have here at the same time, and I mean it
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: was and she was literally ballistic about me being there.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm four rooms down and I never had to
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: see the witch, never had to see her. I was
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: in my own room. They brought me out, I got done,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and I got taken away in my car. Never got
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: just never had to see her. She just couldn't stand
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the fact that I was there, So first of all,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you don't yell at production, Second of all, or out production.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this was somebody else, even like a big wig. Okay,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: you don't yell at them, but then you don't. I mean,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: it's like, who cares if we have to go and
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: take a picture on set. We're on the same TV show.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You could have said no to the TV show knowing
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: they were bringing me in. You have every right to
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: quit at any point you want to. You can get
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: out of your contract. So yeah, so I did hear.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: There was so much more in aff.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: But who played for you? Who played?
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Katie played me the voice memo at a restaurant across
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the street from my house, and the women next to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: us were sitting to my left were two brunettes and
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: another blonde. I can't this is how much I remember
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the day. Carlos and Jen was at that lunch, and
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I know Jen said I went up and got to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the bathroom. I can't remember if I ever made eye
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: contact with Jin or talk to her when I was
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: hearing the voice memo. I just remember looking left to
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: my left and I was like, Katie, like those women
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: are like we got a a little bit because I
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: didn't want our dirt of the show to be listened
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to by other patrons at the restaurant. So yeah, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: mean so, Katie, I think really doesn't remember letting me
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: hear it, but she did, so I'm willing to move
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: on past that and let her think in her mind
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't hear it. But the whole bottom line is Carlos,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: she did the she recorded it, so that should be
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the end of it. Who cares like the minutia if
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: she it's like, that's such minuche, But it's it's the truth,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go to my
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: grave saying, oh, yeah, I was wrong when I'm not wrong.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I heard the whole thing.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, actually I can agree with you. Listen.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I was happy to
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: see Katie beer. She looked gorgeous.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: And we've moved on.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: To answer your question, we've moved on. I adore her.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Matt and I and John had a long talk while
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: she was busy doing some other things last night. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: adore them and I care about them also, and I'm
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I'm easily willing to squash be and talking a mature
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: setting and work past things, because you know, that's what
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: you have to do in life. We got to work
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: past certain situations. As long as you don't know, cheat on,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: cheat on my husband, or having a fair with my husband,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I can or hurt one of my kids. I can
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: pretty much squash the beef about anything else.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe some of the OC housewives need to take
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: a page for your book, because tam or grudge asked
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Shannon Paul, which, by the way, it's hilarious, but let's
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: be clear a fan said that, and Shanna picked it
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: up again, it is what it is. But what I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: thought what was so interesting is the fact that tamer said,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: where Shannon you recorded Vicki? And hey, my my mouth dropped.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what is happening right now? Because again
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I watched the show and I watch all nineteen seasons,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, when does Shannon record Vicki? And Shannon
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: looked like she saw a ghost and She's like, well,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: she was dealing something with her husband.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Makes someone mad, You're gonna make someone mad, Okay, Carlos,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: When is Shannon ever care who she makes mad? She's
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: trying to dictate people's friendships and not worried about it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: How is she gonna care about if if Tamra made
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Vicky mad for that? But it is true, and I
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: want to say this, and I'm gonna leave it very
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: simple for the listeners to take for themselves. Remember that
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I'm married to John. Okay, it is true about the recording,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: and it is true what Tamarra said about Shannon was
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: talking smack on VICKI so yeah, that's all true. And
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: again I have receipts and I'm not gonna go there
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: because then it's like, oh my god, I like say,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: but it's the truth, and I'm I'm sorry. I gotta
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: be truth teller. I just I can't. I should have
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: been like this and I have no other way, but
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: just to be a truth teller. I would never say
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: these things, Carlos, unless if I got put in front
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of a judge and was getting ready to go to
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: jail for saying this, I would be able to say, hmmm,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: here it is judge, so yeah, wait a.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Second, or or a love detect the test examiner, that's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: time to release. But wait a second, sister, I this
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: is tea because.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it very I'm going to keep it
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: very Let the let the listeners.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: No, yes, no, no, no, I don't have to say this.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I have to say this. I've only.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Speechless, okay because because I'm gagging. All right, Look, and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: that's till my glasses off so I can see.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I thought, based on watching the show, that Shannon said
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: she recorded something going on with Vicki her husband, but
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that she deleted it afterwards. But you're saying Shannon was
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: caught on the recording talking about Vicky.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying that what Tamra said is true.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I will leave it at that, and I have the
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: receipts for it.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: So yeah, we do have. But how do you have
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: the receipt Alexis dances my husband? You have possession of
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: the audio?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: No, I don't have possession of the audio. I have
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: other I have proof of other words exchanged and and
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that camera is right. It was being called out that
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: it was Vicky was the culprit and the bad one,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: just saying that, okay, we need to move on. I'm
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: going to get trouble and all that's gonna make me
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: think I'm psycho when I'm not. All I am is
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: wanting to get to the bottom of the truth here,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And so do I do my deep Dateline NBC research
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: as a detective. Yes, I do, because that is what
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I do. I should belong on Dateline because I would
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: find the murderer. I promise you I would get to
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the bottom.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I love you.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: So I've had a little copies, so I'm.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: A little I just love you. I love you.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: What I love about you is the fact that you
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: always keep it real. And look, when the conversation was
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: going on with Katie and and Gina, I thought Gina
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: did a great job at taking countability and apologizing to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Katie in regards to.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Go ahead remind me though, yeah no, no, oh yeah.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: So when.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Katie told Monique that she felt there was some racial
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: undertones in regards to Gina asking about wearing Asian designers,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I thought Gina did a fabulous job addressing it, taking
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: taking accountability and apologizing.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I thought it. I wish it would have happened on
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: And I wish these sort of conversations of accountability and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: apologizing that fast would happen, because we saw how Katie
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: sat immediately and moved on. So listen, I know the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: world gives Gina shit, but I will say I thought
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Gina did a fabulous job explaining herself. Now I'm making
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: excuses and being accountable. I thought it was fabulous, so
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure that that was mentioned.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I yeah, I'm not really super passionate about any part
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: of that, other than the fact that, like I think
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: more women should have said when Andy said after that
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: part where Gina set her piece where and even when
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Andy said, does anyone else want to apologize to Katie?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of those women owed Katie
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: an apology. I'm sorry, even though she's still not recalling
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: that she played the audio for me. I'm willing to
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: move past that. It does not mean that I still
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: don't have empathy and compassion to the fact that the
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: way she was iced out, and they can, those women
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: can say whatever the f they want. She was iced out, okay,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: And I think to be honest, Carlos, Oh, It's only
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: been episode one of the reunion, but I want to
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: say this. I was impressed and proud of Katie for
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: how she handled her own I think she grew stronger
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: this season, because when you go to rock bottom, you
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: do get strength through that. Going through all those emotions.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I think she was calm, cool, collected, spoke her peace,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: and didn't just sit there like a deer in headlights
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: like she did last season when I was on the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: house on you know, the reunion. So I want to
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: give her kudos for that and just say, you know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I was very happy to see that she did. But
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the women did owe her an apology.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, look, Shannon says she apologized for
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: saying that she thought Katie was as evil as Alexis.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I never heard Shannon say I'm sorry. One time. She
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: skirted around it, and I maybe I need to go
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: back and rewind it, Carlos, but I never heard it.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: All I heard was her kind of take accountability in
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: her own sort of non accountability way, be like I
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have said that. That's not and I'm sorry.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: That's true, that's true. No, you're right, you're right.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Is I'm sorry, and there's never a butt after it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: If you're truly sorry, it's just I am so sorry.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. But or I shouldn't have done that.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: That's not an apology. No, I agree with that because
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking you're right. I think so. I think so no,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, You're absolutely right.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: She never said I'm sorry, she said she she she
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: tried to do what you said.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: She was like, uh, I shouldn't have said it. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: meant it this way.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: But what was so obvious to me is the fact
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that you and I spoke about this. You even said, look,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: as a former housewife, when it comes to these shows, yes,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of us are friends, but some of us,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: or some of them, rather.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: They do have strategy when it comes to the show.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Even when they brought a Vicki and Tamra saying that, look,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: she wants Vicki back, and look, I think anybody breathing
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: should want the og of the OC back for season twenty,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: which is next season. Whether or not Tamor is using
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: strategy to do it, I think the producers have strategy
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: to bring her back.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: But it was I thought it was very fascinating.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: That Emily questioned and even asked, is it strategy or friendship?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, Emily, you're the wrong person to talk.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: You kicked out Katie, you yelled at her. You also
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: yelled at Tamar for filming with Katie.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: You all of this is strategy. It is so once again,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Shannon even saying that.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Look which I look, I do believe it. I don't
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: care what anyone says.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I do believe that Shannon wants Gretchen to replace Tamara,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: whether or not there was a phone call, whatever, because
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I love you Jen. But Jen does have the memory
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: of a plant. She doesn't remember anything, and I love Jen.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I love Jen.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: The fact that Jen may not remember the fact that
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: she said I went to the bathroom when Katie played
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: the audio for you, Alexis or I don't remember Gretchen
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: saying that Tamar tried to drug her.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Jen takes take I don't know we need to take,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: but you need to take something that made me back
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: some B B double A.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a brain. There's a there's a vitamin brain.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: It's like, we go, is it vitamin A that's eyes,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: it's not vitamin D that's cold. Like we need to
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: mail her the brain vitamin Carlos had a little gift
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: from us just to just here you go, sweetie. We
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: love you.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, as if I google exactly what she needs,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: because I'm going to give her a free supply of that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Because because my girl, my girl needs it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Baby, especially if you're gonna be on this show and
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: now she's going on a fourth season. Holy crap, you
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: have to remember everything from season four seasons ago in
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: order to survive on this show. But going back to
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: the strategy thing, Carlos, Oh, but before.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: You go, it's call but Alexis, it's called jink jink
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: go below ba.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, Jinko Belova, Yes, Jinko Blova. That's how you pronounced it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Is it? I knew?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I knew there was one, So Jan, I'm giving your
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: first supply of Bad Girl Friend.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Well go ahead of le Oh, so nice colors.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: You're like that so nice? So back to the strategizing. Okay,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: First of all, Emily likes to act like she doesn't
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: do everything she calls everyone else out on doing, because
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: if you ever rewind any of the six seasons she's
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: been on, she's done pretty much every single thing that
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: She's always like going, why are you saying I do?
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Like I'm just like, I like, look at my I'm
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: going crazy. Sometimes I'm like, oh my gosh, you're the
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you're sure the kettle what's it? Tea calling the kettle black?
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Or pot called pot calling the kettle black?
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Pot pop calling the kettle black like every single episode basically.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: But but I think all these women and if they
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: say they don't, they're lying.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Everyone has some sort of a strategy. It is kind
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: of the game of survivor to be on a housewives show.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. I've been there and done that,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: happy that I did it. It was a great part
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of my life. But it is the truth. You are
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: kind of playing a little because you want to be honest,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: but you don't want to tick everyone off because you
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: don't want to be Katie on the Desert Island, which
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I've been before. You don't want to You have to
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: try to kind of keep the peace but yet be
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: honest and real and authentic and tell call the truth
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: out when the truth needs to be told. It's a
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: very sticky. It's a very difficult career, first of all.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And I want to give kudos to all the women
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: on every franchise because not everybody can handle it. Not
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: everybody can do that job, and it is entertainment, so
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: you kind of have to keep it at that level.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Like none of us are performing brain surgery kind of thing,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Like we're literally here to make people laugh and get
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: out escape their reality and their own world. But I
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: do know that every single woman on that stage has
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: a strategy, and no doubt, there's no doubt that it
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: was to get Tamra off the show for season twenty.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: There is no doubt. I think they're jealous that she's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: been on the longest. I think they don't want her
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: on season twenty. And I think they don't want someone
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: who has so many facts in her brain because she's
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: very smart that will just call it out when it's
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: time for the truth to be told. And that is
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: why Tamara carries the show forward. And you know, I
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: got on Instagram only for a brief second this morning
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: and just to check the dms from last night and
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: see if anyone else sent more photos you can put
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: on story and stuff, you know. But and the first
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: thing that poppped up was after the reading, one of
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: the bloggers. I don't didn't screenshot it. I don't remember
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: what it said, but it was one of the Bravo bloggers,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: and it said kudos to Tamar for carrying this season
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: once again. So as much as the women hate her,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: everyone knows that there's not going to be as good
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: of a show without Tamra there period and lover her
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: her hater because there's been years I've hated her and
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I could have still said that about her. She at
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: least carries the show. That's why there's a season twenty.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: You can thank her for that a lot.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I agree, you're back, You're back, We're back.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Okay. So one thing that we have.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: To get into alexis Gretchen comes out.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, what.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: It could be Naty Caragan, it could be John Banna Ramsey.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It's it's definitely an outfit just for Gretchen. Before we
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: get to hur and s Lake, there's someone to unpack here.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: What did you think of Gretchen's re union dress?
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I I think I'm actually gonna plead the fifth on
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: this one, just because it's like I just I just
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: don't there's no there's really nothing for me to say.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it speaks quite volumes for itself, doesn't it.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't really have to say much.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, my vote is Nasty care Again or
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: even Tanya Harding.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: But listen, that's that's my opinion.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: But you look, it's I I thought, in the words
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: of Heather, it was entertaining, but the most entertaining part
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to me of Gretchen's presidence, and we have to get
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: into before we end the show.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: We have to get into the shade of Slade because
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: baby that with Andy asked what does slave do? Of
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: course my mind went to Alexis with.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: She told Slaye on this podcast to get a job
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: and stay out of women's business.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Gretchen said that Slave is a consultant and he's on
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the Liberachi board.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: What the fuck is.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: That's called? I got to pull something out of my
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: ass for my uh forever fiance because I need him
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: to look better than what this show has made him
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: look like. So I've got a really good idea of site,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Let's find some committee that you can become a part of.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: And then it sounds really good. And so you know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: they were on their email and everybody about work. What
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: committee can we put Slade on? You know? No, you
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: know what? In all honesty, Carlos, here's the thing I
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: like when Heather stood up for Gotchen a little bit
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: and said, look, whatever your relationship is, it's fine. You
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: don't know anybody answers. Where I get lost in all
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: of it is that it is like they're trying to
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: portray something that's not real, like it is just like, no,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: we're never going to get married. Just admit it. I'm
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: not going to marry him beause he has too much debt.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: He did go to jail, he did in two thousand
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: and nine for not paying child support. So he was
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: considered a dead beat dad for that at that point
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: in his life. And by the way, it is not
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Tamra that is saying dead beat dad, that is not
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: getting Slat employed. Okay, I've said that two podcasts ago
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: with you. I'm going to keep saying it because if
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: anyone believes that there you know what, I have about
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: a million dollars and dish towels that I want to
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: sell you. If you believe that, okay, I promise you
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: that they're worth a million. Okay, But I think that
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: it's like I do feel if Slade does buy his
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: own uses his own money from this Liberachi thing that
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know the committees paid when you're on
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: a board. I didn't even think you got paid to
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: be on a board. I thought you were given away
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: your time and trying to make me same anyway, So
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but if he's buying his own groceries
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: and that's how they live their life. Fine, be with
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: own it and just be like, no, he's not going
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: to get a job. He's going to live off of me.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: He is step stay at home dad. I'm the worker.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: That would be so much more respectful than if you
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: try to change it or twist it, or portray it
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: or say things that don't That's where the women were
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: getting confused because they're like, but you proposed to them,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: So why'd you propose to him if you said you're
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: never going to marry it? Because proposing means you're going
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: to get married at some point. It could be five
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: years down the road, could be sixteen years down the road.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: But an engagement means at one point in time, we
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: are going to get married. It's clear they're not. But
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: even if they do, just own the fact that we
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: don't want to get married. If you don't want to
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: get married, we're going to stay engaged with theirs to
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: of our life. America would look at it so much
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: better and different and be like, they're owning it. So
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: what who's that? Who's that couple? Goldie Hawn and what's
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: his name?
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they never got married, and they were together for
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: their whole life and have still be Aren't they still together?
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I mean still together yeah, twenty or thirty years. But
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: you know what, no one ever questioned them because they
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: didn't get engaged, and they never said yes bad man,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: never said we'll get married at one point, never had
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: to defend their relationship because there was no lying or
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: deceit going on. I think the reason the women are questioning, well,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: but who buys the groceries and when are you getting
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: married is because it looks like they're trying to portray
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: something that that's not Why would you go say your
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: vows before a a They said it was an ordained minister,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: before an ordained minister, if you had no intention of
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: ever filing that to be a marriage. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: does not make sense to me other than they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to Maybe maybe they wanted to say those vows and
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: it meant the world to them. But then it's just
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: more called a ceremony. It's like we just had a
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: ceremony of love. That's what it should because yet not
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: portraying anything that's false. It's just a ceremony of love,
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  Speaker 2: and the end of the story.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's I listen, I agree with you. I agree
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  Speaker 3: with Heather just own as your relationship. Who cares.
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  Speaker 1: But it is very interesting and I thought I was
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  Speaker 1: very funny when Andy said, look, I thought you guys
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  Speaker 1: did that to get a Bravo wedding special so that
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: we could pay for it.
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  Speaker 2: Carlos, I jumped up out of bed because I had
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: to watch this after last night, right after the whole
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: party that we went to. I jumped.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, going, oh my god, that was so gag.
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  Speaker 2: I literally got up out of bed because I was like,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: what the heck did you? Did you just do? I
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: was gobsmacked, like baffled. I was like, holy heck, he
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: really just went there. But it's so true.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, no, it's I think it's what it is too.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because you saidness and I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: That's near forever fiance. I don't think they will ever
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: get married.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: No otherwise. When they asked, when they they asked her
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: point blank, another thing that makes it look like the
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: level of deceit like she's trying to deceive what the
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: relationship really is. The other thing they asked her was
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: someone said, well, when are you going to be ready then,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: and she's like, I'm ready now. I do know. No,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: you're not, because if you are ready now, you'd say,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: we put a date on the books for next June
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: twelfth of twenty twenty six, you know. Like it's like,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: it's like, don't deceive, just say we're going to stay engaged,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: and that that's what means the world to us. That's
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: so much more respectful, isn't it. Because look, my last engagement,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: my last engagement right before Johnny, we didn't have a
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: date on the books. We had no date, and I
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: didn't know a date. And the minute I got engaged
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: to Johnny, we put a date on. But I was
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: never going around town saying we don't know. I honestly
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: thought if I ever did marry him, or we ever
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: did get a date on the books, it would be
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: way down. He had a lot younger kids. I knew
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: it was going to be a long ways away. But
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't try to deceive people in the community by
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: saying we are going to you know, like, I was
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: just very honest with it. We don't know, we're engaged now,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: we're excited about this. We're living in the you know,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: the relishing in this engagement forever.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no years, mark my words.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: The only way Gretchen and Slade are getting married is
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: if she's asked back to be a housewife next season,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: and that's her storyline.
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  Speaker 3: I promise you.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I don't promise you. I don't even think then. I
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: think he has too much debt and too much that
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: she can't she doesn't want to take on. I think
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I forget. I was filming back when that scene happened
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: that they flashed back to that Gretchen had said. Heather
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: called Gretchen out back then. That was like two thousand
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: and eight or nine or ten, one of those seasons
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: that I was on, and Heather called out her out
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: and said, yeah, but you don't want to marry him
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: because he's got too much debt and you don't want
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: to carry it that on. And Gretchen was honest at
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: that point and owned it and said, yeah, I don't.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I don't want to take that on. That is so
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: respectful and understandable. I get that, don't take his dead on,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: don't take his you know. So, I don't think even
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: if they got asked as full time cast, they because
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I you know, Slade is basically works for her and
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: does all her job. But if they got us back
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: next season as as she did as a housewife to
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: have an orange, I still don't think she would marry him.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I don't well, baby, we will wait and see and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: part two next week we have the showdown between Gretchen
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: and Tamera.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: And I do want to say this shout out to Emily.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Emily my thoughts and purse with your son, as Emily
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: talked about her son possibly having pandas and how you
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: know the strep the bacteria affects your brain and the
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: brain swelling. So my thoughts and priss go out to
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Emily and and and Shane's son. So I want to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: make sure that Alexai said that she agrees to. So Alexi,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: before I'll let you go, let.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: The rain drops know what you got bombard it last night.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: You're gonna give bombard it next week because you will
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: be at Bravo Con.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I am gonna be there for three of the days. Yes,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm not gonna be at the Bravos, but I'll
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: be staying. You know, I'll be at a lot of
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: the places that everyone's at. I am working for iHeart
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: to do a couple podcastings and uh interviewing and the
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: celebs and all of that. So it's gonna be a
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: lot of fun. And yeah, I'm really excited. And then
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: it's oh, it's Gollina's birthday. Let's give a shout out
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: to Gallina. This is I'm wearing her T shirt on
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: interview today, Galina because it's her birthday while we're there.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: So that's birthday.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're gonna do a little birthday celebration there too,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gonna be fun. And you're not coming, Carlos.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know, but I
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: will be able to get you back next week to
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: hear all about it, because Friday I'll be.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I'll be in the thick of Bravo Con Friday morning
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: from my hotel room when we you and I are
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: are are doing recapping the reunion. I may look a
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: little bit retired. I'll probably have glasses on and be
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: barely woken up, but we're going to because I'm working
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: all day Thursday, and then I have to work all
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: day Friday too. I actually might be in hair and
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: makeup when we have to do that. Oh my gosh,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: we got.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like even better but we'll figure it out.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: We'll get Spencer on it. But congratulates. I'm proud of you,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: So rain Drops. Next week Alexi will be back recapping
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: part to the reunion and giving us some tea of
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: our Bravo conscin Ot agains that who.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Knows, maybe will be a storyline season.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: So Alexis Janson, I love you, having a great weekend,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: my love.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: So Johona said hi, and I'll see you next Friday.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: By rain Drops one Bye Boo.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partner ship.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: With the Lack Effect Network.
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  Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore