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#301: Dead Silence (2007) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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Beware of the stare of Mary Shaw.
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She had no children, only golfs. And if you see her in your
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dreams, you must never, ever scream.
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Well, you know what's your least favorite?
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the ugly and the absurd and all of our favorite.
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Family's favorite scary movies because we believe every horror
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movie rightfully has this fan base.
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Even if we don't always get. It my name's Travis My.
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Name's Jessie. It's the best month of the year.
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Yale. Actually it's September while
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we're recording this, but when you're hearing this, unless
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you're a budget to your buddy is best month of the year.
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Yeah, it is. It's October, baby.
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OK, so we're just gonna hop right into it.
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This is kind of a tradition that we've had the past few years
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where we find horror movies that the other person hasn't seen.
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And that's what we're going to do.
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And I picked first. But before we get into it,
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Travis, yeah, do we have? We didn't do a poll.
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We don't have poll results again, no.
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OK, look, I'm sorry, but we've had back-to-back weekends with
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events that have required our attention and has been a little
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bit more distracting. Yeah.
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And it's just a thing that hasn't happened, so.
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A lot of life has been happening lately, and not in a good way.
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Yeah. So if you, if you love the
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polls, I'm sorry, but if you don't care for the polls, you're
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welcome. Yeah, there we go.
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In that case, I'll just go ahead and jump into the movie.
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Yeah, OK, cool. So this week we're talking about
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dead silence. Dead silence.
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I picked this for you to watch because a big part of it was
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Judas Roberts is going to be a Scare fest guest this.
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Year Mary Shaw herself. Yeah.
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And so I knew that like that was one of those things like on the
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list to watch before we go. So that way you'd have that as a
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frame of reference. It is nice, yeah.
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Because I, I didn't, I'm I was happy for people, but it wasn't
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like a thing. Yeah, yeah, cool.
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But now I'm I'm excited this year.
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Yeah, and also I know that like this is you like creepy dolls,
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you like you like clowns and creepy dolls.
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I do. So I we got both and we got we.
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Got a creepy clown doll that was awesome.
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That was my favorite. Part I knew you would love that
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and I haven't seen this probably since about 2007.
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So it's been damn near 20 years since I watched it, so this was
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a revisit for me as well. I will say there was one night
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we put this on, but we both fell asleep immediately.
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It doesn't count. It doesn't count, no.
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So we tried, yeah. But I'm, I'm glad that we
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watched it this time, yeah. OK, well here's some information
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on Dead Silence. So it released from March 16th,
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2007. We watched it on Prime because
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as of the end of the month of September, you can either stream
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it on YouTube TV. We don't have YouTube TV money.
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Are you with me? No, you can also rent it on
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Prime, YouTube, Apple TV or Fandango at home.
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Yeah, yeah. Maybe by October when this comes
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out you'll be able to stream it somewhere at home.
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Yeah, maybe, maybe you like, looked at what's streaming in
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October and you said, oh, shit, dead silence.
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Haven't watched that since, you know, 2007.
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Yeah, maybe that's what happened.
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We've got some very familiar names to go over with you today.
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Written by Lee Wannell and James Wan, directed by James Wan,
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music by Charlie Klauser, Special Effects.
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We have the dummy and project coordinators, we're AFX Studio.
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And do you know who did prosthetics for this movie?
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Do I know of them? It is one.
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It is none other than Francois de Gennay, who worked on so many
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of the Song movies with the rest of his crew.
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Yeah, yeah, we're surprisingly not talking about a Saw movie.
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Yes, if you if you fast forwarded like 3 minutes into
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the episode and you're like, why are they covering another Saw
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movie they've done about We're not, it just seems like it.
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It is cool though, I like that that I like what they did with
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like the early Saw movie. So I think it's really cool to
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see the team do something different too.
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And we got another immemorium for Greg Hoffman at the end of
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this one, too, yeah. I'm not gonna lie, every time I
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see Hoffman on the screen, though, I'm like, I it, it's
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like, what is it like the Pavlovian response or whatever
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where I I need Kostas. I need Kostas.
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I'm like this movie better have a little bit of Kostas and a God
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damn it. It doesn't, I'm, I'm afraid to
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say. Yeah, but it does have somebody
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else that won't recognize that's true, which we'll get into right
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now because this movie is starring Ryan Quentin as Jamie
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Ashton. Amber Valletta is Ellen Ashton.
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Donnie Wahlberg as Detective Lipton.
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Back-to-back, Wahlberg's man. We did not first see this.
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Why would you not say wall to wall, Wahlberg?
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Wall to wall, Wahlberg's man. That's what we do on the show.
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I mean, that's just how we roll. We're not afraid.
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We're. Not afraid.
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Every other Ford podcast out there, I dare you to do wall to
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wall Wahlberg's. It's the wall to wall Wahlberg.
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Challenge. It can't be done until today.
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They said we were crazy. They said it would never, never
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work. It might not.
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We're only 5 minutes into this episode and it's already going
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off the rails. Michael Fairman as Henry Walker,
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Joan Henny is Miriam Walker and Judith Roberts as Mary Shaw
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Travis. Yeah, time for our favorite
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game. Budget or?
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Bug Ted. I'm gonna say bug, Ted.
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You would think so, but it's a budget.
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Man, really? 20 million. 20 million, Yeah.
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Wow, That actually is really surprising.
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I don't. Nothing about this movie screams
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$20 million. It has an opening box office of
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7.8 million, a worldwide gross of 22 million and an IMDb score
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of 6.1, firmly putting this in a cult classic territory.
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Yeah, that's surprising. I thought that.
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Well, I guess that makes sense. It's cult classic.
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I'm hearing about it a lot now in the 20 twenties, but I guess
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it wasn't really well received back then.
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OK, I've got 3 movies from 2007. We've kind of been in this land
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a lot lately. So I was trying to figure out
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how does Dead Silence tie into the themes of the time and the
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theme I came up with is but why do you want to kill me?
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OK, that's a great question because I saw in this movie.
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So the first one is the mist because fucking Miss Carmody
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wants to kill the little boy who is supposed to be 5 in the book
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and is like 9 in the movie and it makes things confusing.
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Still talks like a 5 year old. Yeah, because that's what the
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character is supposed to be. That's fine.
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That released November 1st, 2007.
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It had a budget of 18,000,000, a worldwide gross of 57 million,
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and an IMDb score of 7.1 out of 10.
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Sorry I took my glasses off and couldn't see that over.
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That was another first. So much for me this year.
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Watched that a couple months ago with you.
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Yeah, I had reread the the short story note on quote.
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It's like 160 pages. That's like a that's.
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A book that's just a book. I'd read it for book club and I
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was like, I wanna rewatch the movie, see how I feel about it.
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Now I. Liked it?
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Yeah. Didn't expect big bugs.
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But you should always expect big.
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Bugs. I expected miss.
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I didn't expect big bugs. I thought the miss was gonna do
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the killing. Second movie.
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Normal activity, yeah. Is that that demon is coming for
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Katie? The thing is, though, the one
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asking that is Mika. Katie knows.
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Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
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So Mika's like, but why don't you want to kill me, though?
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Am I not? Am I not pretty enough?
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That released at a Film Festival on October 14th, 2007.
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It was the Scream Fest Horror Film Festival.
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OK, Budget of 15,000 Worldwide Gross of 193,000,006.3 IMDb.
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We know all of this. We know, we know, we know.
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We've talked about this extensively.
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You can go listen to that episode.
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For your biggest movie ever. Ever third movie, Hostile Part
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2. Yeah, OK.
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Yeah. Does she they, they get taken
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and she's like, oh, but I've got fuck you money so maybe I can
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actually kill you. That's what we're gonna do.
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So. Why not?
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Why you? Yeah, she yeah, she threw down
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the Uno reverse card. She.
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Did, yeah. June 8th, 2007 Budget 10 Million
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Worldwide Gross 35,000,000 IMDb 5.5 out of 10.
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I like that movie. I've got 1 tagline.
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One tagline. One tagline Uno baby.
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Is is it OK at least? You scream, you die.
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OK, whatever that's, that's basic that, you know, I'm not
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mad about it, but it, it could be better, you know, there's
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room for improvement. Yeah, like we we have.
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We can play around with it some ourselves.
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If there's, I think it fits what I've heard about this movie, the
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making of this movie, at least, which I'm sure you're going to
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get into, Yeah. If not, I don't know, but go
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ahead and it's time for that. So what are the facts that you?
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Got. And that's most of what I've got
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for the facts of this because there wasn't.
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Well, OK, so this filmed in Toronto October 2005 to May
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2006. Yeah.
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It Raven's Fair is an actual real place.
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It's situated near Bradley Bridge.
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I don't know what that means because I'm not from Toronto.
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So this is set in Canada. Yeah, OK.
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I don't know, like if it's set set in Canada, but like, Raven's
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Fair is a real place, and that's where they filmed.
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OK OK. So the script was written on the
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advice of Lee Wannel's agent at the time.
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And then they brought in a script doctor, and I'm just
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gonna read this full quote from him because from Lee.
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Yeah. From Lee Wannel.
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For Mr. Very fucking confused. Mr. Very fucking confused after
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everything is said and done. I'm almost glad dead silence
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happened because it gave me an extreme cool face lesson in what
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not to do. It was like learning to swim by
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leaping off Niagara Falls. I only write scripts on spec
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now, which means that I write them in my own time without
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getting paid, and then I take them out in the world to see if
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anyone's interested. Never again will I enter the
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arranged marriage of selling a pitch.
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I've also become very gun shy about working with studios.
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In the world of independent film, what you write ends up on
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screen. Plus they don't have the money
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to bring in script doctors. Works fine for me.
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Who knows, maybe one day I'll work with the studio again.
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Yeah. I mean, he's worked with the
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Universal Studio again, yes. Well, this was 2007.
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That was actually when that happened.
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OK, I. Thought that I was like.
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Yeah, after. I don't have the date for the
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quote but it's been almost 20 years so.
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Yeah, that was one of the things I remember like hearing.
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Is there more to the quote? No.
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OK, yeah, that like, basically this is a movie like where like
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a gun was pointed to their head and like, make a movie.
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Yeah, and it James Wan has similar feelings about it.
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He basically he was glad to kind of get away from what everybody
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expected him with Saw, which was the quote UN quote torture porn.
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And he was very excited to do like kind of a ghost story.
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He really loves those. And his thoughts are that it
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didn't go so well. It was because everybody
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associates this team all together with Saw and saw type
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movies. And this wasn't that.
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It was his departure. So he thinks that's partially
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the response of it not being as big a hit.
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I could maybe see that back in the, like, when that came out.
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Yeah. Because like now when you look
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at James one, there is a lot of diversity.
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He's done other ghost stories. He did The Conjuring.
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The Conjuring was great. Insidious.
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You know, actually I feel like he like, prefers stuff like he
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said. Yeah.
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Because, I mean, that's pretty much what he's done in Fast and
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Furious. In Fast and Furious he did
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malignant, malignant. So yeah, he kind of goes all
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over the place, which is great. And this was his second, like,
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big film. Did they do this after Saul one
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or was it after Saw 2? I think it would have been after
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Saw Two if it was filming in 2005, wouldn't it?
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Saw Saw Four came out the same year as Dead Silence.
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Oh, really? Yeah.
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Oh, wow. Yeah, OK.
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I'd have to go back and look at the dates for filming for the
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other the first three saw. Dan OK, so 2007 had this version
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of Don Donnie Wahlberg and then also the Donnie Wahlberg.
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That gets his head smashed by blocks of ice.
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Probably the. Saddest you'll ever see him
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Yeah, that's it's it makes you feel bad for.
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Him, I wonder, like I wonder if that's why he has the mustache
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in this 'cause he had already, like, gotten scruffy.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I mean, honestly, I feel like that's why his like role in Four
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might have been reduced a bit. Maybe he was busy doing this
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too. I don't know.
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Yeah. I don't know.
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Yeah. So those are those are my fun
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facts. Not a lot out there cuz again, I
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think that the team didn't love how this turned out, although
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they recognize that it's become like kind of a cult classic.
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Yeah, yeah, I, I see people reference this pretty often.
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You know, I, I think it's pretty well received these days.
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Well, I guess that's a good opportunity for us to go
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straight into the good bite. Ugly and absurd.
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Go ahead and talk about the good things that you found from this
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on your first watch. First watch 18 months after or
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18 years after it came out. This movie is illegal adult.
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It is. Holy shit, they can buy
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cigarettes. I like this movie, man.
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I had a good time with it. Yeah, like you said before, I I
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do like the creepy doll stuff and this movie really delivers
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on it. Even if it came from 1/2 Hearted
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Place. I think the talent involved was
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enough to like elevate it to make it really effective.
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Because the thing that I noticed the most when watching this was
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the cinematography was really good.
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It was really good at like capturing these really tense
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moments and like slow builds. Like, the one I was really
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thinking of was that scene with when he has Billy in his motel
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room and he falls asleep. Yeah.
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And then there's that slow pan and zoom like right into Billy
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and then like the eyes just slowly shift over to him.
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Oh, there's an even better because part with that scene
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that I noticed and the lights are flickering outside, you
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know, the motel lights and you can see the dolls pupils are
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dilating and contracting. Oh God, really?
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Yeah, I didn't notice that. Yeah, no, I noticed it and I was
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like, oh, that's a, that's a nice little detail.
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That was a cool thing too. I like the lighting of that
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outside, like the neon lighting. I don't know everything about
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the way that that scene was done.
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Like it was really effective for me.
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I also, it was really funny because like I wrote this and
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then I was like, Oh, it makes sense because of the name.
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But like every time, like the, the, it got really quiet in the
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movie. I was like, damn, this is really
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awesome. Like it like there's no sound.
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It's silent. And I was like, Oh, dead silence
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is that's the name of the movie. I was like, oh, it makes sense.
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I'm picturing you. You're the Leo DiCaprio meme
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though. No, actually it was more of a
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Jimmy Neutron brain blast type thing, just like all the neurons
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in my head was just like going off at once.
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It's pretty crazy. But the way that they do that,
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those scenes where like everything just stops.
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The sound design in that moment is really well because it
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amplifies all of like these like really small creaks and stuff.
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Yeah. The sounds that are always
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creepy, that you hear at night, that kind of, you know, make you
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unsettled. I think the one, the one where
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it really got to me, where it was really effective was when he
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was in the graveyard and like cuz we'd had that music playing
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in the background and then all of a sudden it's just like
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normal sounds like him breathing, digging.
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Like I'm like, oh, this is just actually what it would sound
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like. Cuz nobody goes out and digs in
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a graveyard at night to full cinematic.
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Score from. Charlie, Yeah.
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Yeah. So like, that was a nice moment
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of realism. Yeah, I like that too.
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I also love the the moments with Marian when you would like, hear
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like the crying in the distance. And like the movie does a really
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good job of like, setting you up for that because like, she is
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unstable. So she'll like have these
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moments where she'll go and, like crawl away somewhere and
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like, cry. So like, it's actually plausible
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that it could be her. But also the whole point in the
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movie is like a ventriloquist and the whole thing is like
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throwing your voice. So like you hear those if you
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hear without the subtitles, the subtitles does this thing where
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it's like not Marian and then it like actually gives a dialogue
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the. Subtitles are like, we all know
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what's going on, right? But not with her.
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With her, it's like actually, you know, like it could be.
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I wish it would say Marian question Mark.
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Exactly. Yeah, that would be a better way
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to do it. But it actually just full on is
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like not Marian. Like it lets you know that it's
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not her actually, but I like that.
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I don't know, this movie was really good at building dread.
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It was really creepy. I like the design of the doll.
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It's nice. I had a good time with it.
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Yeah, I, I agree. I think it does a good job of
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building, like, a creepy atmosphere.
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So we do have, like, those nice moments where you are tense,
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like, you know something's gonna happen and you just don't know
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what yet. And even if you can kind of
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forecast it, it's still really effective.
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Like when Henry goes under in the crawl space.
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Yeah. Looking for Mary Ann and that
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relationship. I was sold on them.
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It made me, I really cared about them.
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Yeah. Which I think was it's always
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important to care about your characters.
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If you're doing more of like a ghost type story, yeah, for
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sure. That's meant to be more slow
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paced and build up and things. You need to have something to
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hang on to with that. They're more sympathetic than
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Jamie, I feel. Yes.
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But yeah, I think that this is just it.
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It's got its moments that I think are really good.
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We can't deny the fact that James Wan is a great director,
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and him and Lee Whannell will always find like little moments
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to add in some, like, fun into their script, maybe a little bit
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of campiness and what not. And I like that they worked with
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their team. Yeah, that they've been very
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comfortable with. So I think that all of those
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things like it, it puts together a very proficiently done movie.
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Yeah, I agree they did a really good job with this.
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I'm kind of curious what the script doctor added.
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I know where it took. A wave and you know like why
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would you fuck with a wee one else script?
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I know he's not perfect. He's had some dots out there,
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but like, you know, like, I don't know, like the movie from,
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I mean, what I've watched was really solid.
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I don't know. And they're like most of the
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things I've seen from him are solid.
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Like he's never really done anything bad.
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Yeah, I, I am very curious. And it's also very interesting
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that it's like Lionsgate was, you know, involved again.
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And it just seems like it's such a different set of feelings than
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it was, you know, back. Then yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah.
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What's your bad bad I I'm. Going to be honest, I don't
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really have a lot of bad things to say about this, OK?
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But there was one thing that really took me out and it was at
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the end when the dolls got the derpy face.
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Whenever Mary Shaw's like trying to like there, she's taken over
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them and like the faces get all like all elongated out of.
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Oh yeah. It's just that was bad that like
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I just like. The Super Mario 64 face.
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It. Kind of is like that, yeah.
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I was thinking a lot of like truth or dare.
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I know it doesn't, but it's just like the derpy face.
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I don't. Know truth or Dare is the
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Snapchat filter. Yeah, it's just if you derp up a
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face, I don't know, just like pick the right time.
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That was not the right time to go derpy with it.
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Other than that, I don't really have anything else bad to say
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about this movie, though. Like honestly, I just, I tried
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to look for things but I was like, I'm just like pleasantly
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like. I'm enjoying myself and I really
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just don't have anything bad to say.
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OK, I didn't love this movie when it came out, really.
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And so I was excited to watch it again as a completely different
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kind of person than I was back then.
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Yeah. And I went into I didn't even
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like tell obviously because you're surprised I didn't like
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it before. So I didn't even it's not like I
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even did like with a Leatherface where I was like, man, I'm
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dreading this. I actually switched my movie
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that I was going to do last minute because I just wasn't
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feeling the other one. But I still don't.
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I don't love it. Wow, really?
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Yeah, I thought it was mostly boring and I just couldn't care.
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I care about Jamie. I just couldn't care about him.
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I think the stuff with his dad was written really poorly, so it
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even like takes away from that twist at the end.
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I it just, it was a whole lot of like build up and it didn't
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really amount to a ton for me. OK, I now you just say that.
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I think I can agree with you that the protagonist is a bit
21:18
weak. Jamie isn't exactly the best
21:21
person to lead us through this. And I don't necessarily think
21:24
it's his fault. I think it's the way, like, it
21:28
was done. Like we're just supposed to be
21:29
like, oh, yes, obviously we feel for this man because his wife
21:34
died and he's being accused of killing her.
21:36
But we don't see any of the stakes for that.
21:38
Yeah, yeah. I mean, honestly, I at least it
21:41
has like, you know, Donnie just like tracking him down and just
21:45
popping up in random places. It's just like, hey, what are
21:47
you doing here, punk? Yeah, and that's fun.
21:49
That's fun for me. But it also kind of takes away
21:52
from, like I said, the big like moment at the end, which is
21:55
still like, it's an interesting twist.
21:58
It's a fun twist and I completely forgot about it, but
22:02
the IT has. The stepmom.
22:04
Yeah, yeah. But it has less of an impact
22:07
when you haven't really cared that much about this guy until
22:11
then. Yeah, Jamie, you're right, Jamie
22:13
is weak. He's more of a vehicle to like,
22:16
take us to interesting things in this movie.
22:19
Yeah. But yeah, yeah, you're right,
22:23
he's not exactly the best. They just didn't really make us
22:27
care about. Him, yeah.
22:28
And I similarly I wish that we'd gotten more back story on Mary
22:31
Shaw, because one flashback does not a motive make.
22:36
Just because one kid heckled. Yeah, and she got accused of
22:41
kidnapping and which, I mean, she did, but make us care.
22:44
It kind of like, imagine if that's all we got with Candyman.
22:48
But that's not what we get. Like we have so much woven in
22:52
there. There's so much like, social
22:54
commentary that's going on. And by the time like everything
22:59
happens and he takes hell in, like you care so much about
23:04
like, not necessarily. I love candy, man.
23:05
But you're like, man, that's a really fucked up thing that
23:07
happened to him. And I kind of understand why
23:09
he's a bad guy. Like you get all of that.
23:11
You don't get this as much with Mary Shaw.
23:13
I would have liked to have a little bit more of like.
23:15
I think with Mary Shaw, they wanted to go more of like the
23:17
creepy person and didn't want to make her sympathetic and they
23:21
make her actually really creepy in this movie.
23:22
They do a good job. With that I mean like the whole
23:25
being turned into it all when she was like that was in her
23:28
well, like. That was really good.
23:29
I know that you mentioned it like yeah, can.
23:31
We just put weird shit like that in our wills and people have to
23:33
do it. Yeah, you gotta do.
23:36
This too. God I need to go talk to a
23:37
lawyer. I need to trash some shit up.
23:41
Like does she? Did Jessie have a will written?
23:43
No, she just like had this one weird request.
23:45
She wanted to be turned into a fucking doll.
23:47
Yeah, I wanted to hollow it out back with like the little
23:50
trigger and everything, and that's you have me propped up
23:52
grading everybody at my funeral. I mean, OK, all right, we'll
23:58
make it work. That's one fucked up funeral
24:01
I've actually seen. Don't need to talk about this.
24:04
No, I've seen forest funerals. No, no, now you must share with
24:09
the class. Well, OK, it was a video that I
24:13
saw and it was, it's some other country I don't know.
24:19
Apparently they handle funeral's a completely different way.
24:22
But you know how in Mario Kart, like when you're selecting your
24:28
driver, they're sitting in their go Kart and like the the
24:33
character model is just like doing the 360.
24:35
That way you can see everything. Well, they had this guy in a
24:41
boxcar at his funeral staged up like driving and it's just doing
24:48
that. It's just slowly like rotating
24:50
and everybody's partying. That actually sounds really
24:53
awesome. Yeah.
24:54
I mean, it's like. It's real dark, but it's.
24:56
Maybe that guy is Will was like he went to this guy is like, can
24:59
I be a Mario Kart character? I would whenever.
25:03
I'm having my funeral. Yeah, I.
25:05
Wonder if funeral directors prefer those or if they just
25:07
like the standard. Yeah.
25:09
Yeah, like, you know, Yeah, that's a great question.
25:13
We'll have to we'll get one on the podcast and we'll.
25:16
Interview. Them and we'll, we'll dive deep
25:18
into this subject. OK, Well, I think this is a
25:21
perfect segue into ugly. OK, so ugly for me.
25:27
I thought it was really shitty that the dad painted out his
25:30
dead wives. Dude, that's effort.
25:33
That is so much fucking effort. I know like and it's just it's
25:38
such a fuck you to his like dead wives and his son.
25:43
Yeah, cuz his son. Oh sorry, you can't see a
25:45
picture of mom anymore. She had the audacity to die.
25:50
Yeah, so. And why were they dying?
25:52
Did he? I mean he it was sketchy, like
25:54
he fucking killed them, right? That's what I'm saying.
25:56
There's so. Much more there that we could
25:58
have done with these family relationships.
26:01
Yeah. Like, there was so much there
26:03
that would have made it more impactful.
26:04
Other than like dude is next level petty and rich.
26:08
Yeah, I mean, but it's just like, fuck, man, like.
26:11
That's some King Henry and the eighth shit like.
26:13
Yeah, it is. Yeah.
26:16
What was your ugly? I guess, you know, vigilante
26:19
justice is always going to be, like, rough.
26:22
But also, she did kidnap the boy and turn him into it all.
26:25
So I'm conflicted. Yeah.
26:30
I mean it's. Just Yeah, you're right.
26:34
There's a time and place. I don't know.
26:36
She had it coming. She.
26:38
Turned she turned a fucking. Child into a doll for calling
26:41
her out. I agree.
26:43
But also like the mom didn't know that she had.
26:46
They just suspected that's. True, you didn't.
26:50
Have proof that's. True, they basically.
26:52
Did a witch hunt but also like how?
26:54
Soon. Did she die after that?
26:56
That's not clear, because what did they even do to her?
26:59
They cut out. They made her.
27:00
Scream. And when she screamed, they cut
27:02
out her tongue. That's right.
27:03
But that makes me think that she screams like a cartoon
27:05
character. And she goes, yeah.
27:09
Like eyes popping out too. Yeah.
27:11
So I just. I have.
27:12
A lot of questions from that, Yeah, I'm gonna say like child
27:15
murder, people murder. That's how he wrote it in the.
27:19
Script and they're like we need a script doctor for this is like
27:22
Lee, we can't do this shit. You can't.
27:23
Lee, this is dark. You have so many child murders
27:27
in here, you can have one one. Yeah, so.
27:33
There's just like ugliness all around.
27:34
Also the fact that this kind of an extension on the trope, I
27:39
guess like with the like oh man, he was going to propose and no
27:43
one of them is dead. Like oh man, she was going to
27:46
tell them that they were going to have a baby and now she's
27:49
dead and he's learning it from a creepy clown doll man.
27:53
You're right, it is. Yeah.
27:55
I didn't expect the clown to keep actually say anything.
27:59
Yeah. It was like, don't do that, man.
28:02
You don't slowly inch closer to the clown when it's trying to,
28:05
like, tell you a secret. It's just like, rule #1 right
28:09
there. OK, absurd.
28:13
Well. I thought it was funny.
28:16
I guess it makes sense afterwards.
28:17
But like, the funeral director Henry, right?
28:20
Yeah. Whenever, like, we see him
28:22
taking a picture, he has the fucking, probably the very first
28:25
camera ever built. And it's like, why are you still
28:28
using that, man? Like, it's 2007.
28:31
We got fucking mirrorless cameras out there now.
28:33
Even like a fucking like a little disposable film camera.
28:37
But like, it was one of those ones where you have to like,
28:39
take it. You have to like, extend the
28:41
fucking lens. And it's just like probably
28:43
weighs 100 lbs. It's just, it was it was a
28:46
little funny to see him use that.
28:48
That guy is married to that technology.
28:52
I also loved Donnie Wahlberg just constantly shaving and just
28:55
about every scene. And then also.
28:58
Not only was there the constant shaving, but these captions,
29:02
these are like Screen Factory level of captions, which if you
29:05
guys have listened to us talk about any of the Screen Factory
29:08
editions of movies we have, the captions are wild.
29:10
They do not pay their captionists enough.
29:12
They go rogue. Sometimes they go rogue and they
29:14
went rogue with Donnie Wahlberg because when he died at the end,
29:17
he falls, his shaver falls out of his pocket.
29:19
And then the captions say cell phone buzzes.
29:21
And I'm like my friend, that is not a cell phone.
29:24
He has been shaving himself for this entire movie.
29:26
It's not very, it's not a very good shaver as you can see the
29:30
scruff still on him. Also why is his neck not like
29:33
irritated as hell? He should have at least a few
29:36
like very nasty ingrowns. That was the thing I was
29:38
thinking about, like. That's just going to, that's
29:41
just a bad time, man. Like like if you shave like that
29:44
and you just like don't do anything, you're going to be
29:46
fucking itchy all day. It's just not going to be fun.
29:50
I use an epilator. On my legs, which is OW but you
29:53
get used to it eventually and like I immediately I have to do
29:56
like a whole exfoliating and moisture moisturizing process so
29:59
I don't get any ingrown hairs on my legs.
30:01
I can't imagine just like raw dog in my neck the way he is.
30:05
And he like, he just does it everywhere.
30:07
So like everywhere this man is, he just like leaves his fucking
30:10
neck hair all over the place. Yeah, that's.
30:13
Sorry about that. Yeah, he just like walks into
30:16
your. Room and just like shakes this
30:17
like fucking shirt collars. Oh shit, sorry.
30:19
That's like the equivalent of. Me when I get nervous and I pick
30:22
off my nail Polish and I just leave little nail Polish.
30:26
Yeah, you do that. Yeah, I see.
30:28
Like, I'm like, oh, there's some Jesse now.
30:31
OK. And final one.
30:33
I I just think it's funny that they couldn't help themselves to
30:36
do a saw a skinning. I know like.
30:39
Even like the score. And it's like the editing, just
30:41
like the quick shots of like the flashbacks.
30:43
So like all these things like I mean, do you think, do you?
30:46
Think Lee Wannell, James Wan and M Night Shyamalan have a support
30:50
group of like directors that are expected to have A twist ending
30:53
in their movies. Like do you think that that's.
30:56
Like a they support each other. Like yeah, keep it doing like,
30:58
keep doing it like you need A twist, buddy.
31:00
You need kiss. How do we?
31:01
Make a new and interesting place, yeah.
31:04
Or do they? Do they?
31:05
Like commiserate together like God damn it like how am I?
31:07
Like why do I have to do this? Wait, which?
31:09
Which? Fast and Furious, Was it the
31:11
James Bond director 77? I'm trying to think so.
31:14
The last one, Brian, Yeah. Where he drives away.
31:16
So sad. Yeah.
31:18
He didn't really have. Much of an option, yeah.
31:20
No, he didn't have an. Option to do a twist.
31:22
Yeah, you know, actually the twist.
31:23
Is they didn't kill him off yeah, I'm sorry, but that's the
31:27
twist of that movie Like Paul Paul Walker's character stays
31:31
alive in universe and that's so because the next.
31:33
Movie. They're like, well, obviously
31:34
I'm going to name this nameless baby Brian, my friend who is
31:38
definitely still alive and just doesn't adventure anymore.
31:41
It just makes Dom come. Across as weird, like it's just
31:44
like you're naming your son after your best friend.
31:47
It's just like, hey man, I'm like what does this mean?
31:49
Are you planning to kill me or something?
31:51
Like, yes, only one person can have that name in the family.
31:56
All right. What?
31:57
What are your absurds? Oh man.
32:00
I mean, I think the the shaving was definitely way up there, but
32:04
also. I don't understand they have.
32:08
A budget as big as they do. But all they keep doing is.
32:12
Telling us that the town doesn't want to talk about Mary Shaw.
32:15
That is, we don't see anybody. In.
32:17
Town I want like, fucking like Silent Hill type thing where
32:22
it's like this whole place is kind of weird.
32:25
Like, I want more of that because then it also, like,
32:29
makes sense why Donnie Wahlberg decides to be along for the
32:32
ride, yeah. Yeah, I guess it would have been
32:35
interesting to see that. While we're on the subject of
32:38
the town, I think it's weird that he has to like, fucking
32:41
take a boat from the cemetery to a theater.
32:44
I kind of. Love that I want to go to a
32:47
theater where I have to go there through rowboat.
32:50
You have to row yourself. Yeah, you don't want to take a.
32:52
Ferry. No.
32:54
Actually, no, I don't want. I want somewhere between a ferry
32:57
and a rowboat. I want like a gondola where
32:59
there's like, where there's like a gondola.
33:02
Yeah. The man is like he's singing to
33:04
us and he's rowing us to the theater.
33:06
It's a great date night. Yeah, the twist.
33:09
Is this Donnie Wahlberg? No.
33:11
That's not A twist. That's a perk.
33:13
You advertise that shit right up front.
33:15
You're right. Yeah.
33:15
Because you know what Donnie Wahlberg can do?
33:17
Dead silence. Mark Wahlberg cannot do silence.
33:20
Dead silence. You're so right.
33:21
He. Can't you know what I'm?
33:23
Convinced now that Donnie Wahlberg could do other guys, he
33:27
can. Honestly, he's a.
33:28
Superior actor 1000% everything I've seen Johnny Wahlberg.
33:32
And he has. Been way better than Mark
33:34
Wahlberg. OK, OK.
33:36
That's what they agreed. Upon in their like twist ending
33:39
support group is that M Night gets Mark and suddenly when I'll
33:45
get Donnie and that's how I split up the Wahlberg.
33:49
That's so weird. Now I'm just.
33:50
Thinking of a weird situation where you want swap.
33:54
It's really. Wahlberg.
33:55
Swapping, yeah. They're swing.
33:58
Swapberg, Swabberg. I want that to be A twist in one
34:02
of the movies, like where like we're following like one of the
34:04
Wahlberg's, but then at the end it ends up being the other
34:07
Wahlberg. Yeah, yeah.
34:08
Like no, just. Reduce.
34:10
All four except Art Blank is played by Mark Wahlberg.
34:14
Perfect. I would love that so much.
34:18
OK. Let's let's rate it.
34:20
Let's rate it. All right, like I said, I
34:23
actually. Like this movie, I did have a
34:24
good time with it. I'm going to give it a Nate.
34:26
I've given you a four. Whoa, I didn't realize you
34:29
didn't. Like this movie this much I
34:31
really wanted to. Like it more after so many years
34:36
and I just left film. Wow, I am so surprised.
34:41
I am too honestly. I I really wanted to like it.
34:45
I'm so sorry. Well, we have a starting average
34:48
of. Six.
34:49
Well, OK, that's not bad. Hey, that's like, isn't that the
34:51
IMDb? 6.1.
34:55
Yeah, it was something like that, that.
34:57
Almost. Never happens.
34:59
Yeah, we'll get you taking. This.
35:01
I'm sorry. OK.
35:04
Well, are we ready to get into it then?
35:06
Yes. OK.
35:08
So in the 6th century BC, it was believed that the spirits of the
35:11
dead would speak through the stomach region of the living.
35:15
From the Latin Venter for belly and Loki for to speak.
35:20
That's where we get ventriloquist.
35:22
I'm just taking. Away the belly and the Latin and
35:25
this right here. I like that I got a.
35:28
Compliment Talia's Venter from now on, yeah.
35:32
And a great. Venture Puppy.
35:33
Yeah. OK, so we we, we know.
35:35
Where a ventriloquist comes from.
35:36
A great way to start. We're off to a hot start here.
35:39
Yeah, we got like a. History lesson and a language
35:42
lesson, yeah. So it's nice.
35:44
It's kind of them. We also.
35:45
In the opening credits, get drawing lessons because we just
35:48
see all these sketches of dummies.
35:51
You got to. You got to get those.
35:52
Measurements, right? Yeah, there's like a little
35:54
sketch on there. Or like a little note saying
35:55
something about making the perfect doll.
35:58
So then we cut. To a man under the sink just
36:02
decided to have his face right up under the pipe when he pulled
36:05
it apart. Yeah, I I couldn't tell.
36:08
I thought like at first this was like a hired plumber and we were
36:11
like stepping into a maybe porno.
36:14
Because like, she's kind of like.
36:16
She's being a little like, you know, saucy with him.
36:20
Yeah, but he's, he's under the kitchen sink trying to fix the
36:23
plumbing. And instead of sex, we're
36:26
talking about dinner. And she's wanting Chinese.
36:28
I get it. Yeah, I get it too.
36:30
Yeah. So after he's done doing that,
36:32
he is going to run out and go get some Chinese.
36:34
But there's a package at the door.
36:37
And it's a ventriloquist dummy. They don't know who it's from.
36:41
And I love this moment from Lisa.
36:44
It's a dress to Jamie, by the way.
36:45
Yeah. It's a dress to Jamie.
36:46
But we got this moment from Lisa.
36:47
She has It reminds me of that poem from when we were kids,
36:50
Beware of the Stair of Mary Shaw.
36:52
She had no children, only dolls. Something something, something
36:55
scary. I loved it.
36:57
I almost did that as my opening. I mean, I would do the same.
37:02
Yeah, she's just like I. Don't know how good.
37:04
Like you get it? Like you get it.
37:05
It's going to be spooky, yeah. So it's a creepy looking doll.
37:10
They don't really know why they got a doll, but they're going to
37:13
keep it, I guess. And they set them up and they
37:15
prop them up. Yeah, so.
37:18
Jamie goes to pick up the Chinese food and Lisa figures
37:22
out where to put this dummy because she wants to bang her
37:24
husband when he gets back and doesn't want that dummy
37:26
watching. Which valid?
37:29
Absolutely. Valid.
37:31
So she just props it up on the bed with a sheet over it, which
37:34
I feel like is also creepy. That is incredibly.
37:39
Creepy. Yeah.
37:40
It's not better. I honestly if I came.
37:42
Home and I saw that in our bed Hey baby that's a that's a no
37:50
we're. Not doing anything, yeah.
37:53
So then everything just kind of slows down bro.
37:59
I love that it's so. Fucking cool.
38:01
And it's like the record player dies or something.
38:03
And yeah, and the tea kettle. Like is whistling, but then it
38:07
silences. That's the one.
38:08
Especially because. You can't explain that.
38:10
You can explain a record player dying, but the tea just stopped
38:13
teeing. No, and Lisa is.
38:15
Looking in the mirror, she's doing the Bella.
38:18
I just had sex for the first time and I'm super pregnant.
38:21
Look at my like barely not flat belly.
38:24
Yeah, and then she. Figures out something weird's
38:31
going. On she goes into the bedroom and
38:33
she's attacked. That's all we hear Yeah, she.
38:35
I think she like. Hears.
38:37
She hears voices. So she goes to investigate.
38:39
Yeah. So Jamie gets home.
38:41
He's got Chinese food and one single rose.
38:44
What florist let him just have one single rose?
38:46
Or maybe it was one of those people on the street.
38:48
It was just like, rose for your lady.
38:50
Could be. Yeah.
38:51
And he comes in and the kettle's going off.
38:54
He's like Lisa, Lisa, your kiddo's going off.
38:58
Like he's so fucking casual. But honestly, I kind of agree
39:03
with Detective Donnie. Little suspicious.
39:05
He seems suspicious. And then he walks in the hallway
39:07
and he sees the blood, and he's like, Lisa, what's going on
39:12
here? Come on, Lisa, it feels.
39:14
Like it could be from Scary Movie, like how oblivious this
39:17
guy is. But to be fair.
39:19
He is hearing her and she is sounding calm.
39:21
She's like, yeah, Jamie, I'm here.
39:24
Listen if you came. Home.
39:25
Even if I was talking to you, if you find all that blood in the
39:27
hallway, please react more. Oh, I would be like, freaked.
39:31
The fuck out for sure, yeah. He's not though.
39:33
He's way too level headed. Yeah.
39:35
And then? He sees that she's dead.
39:38
Yeah. Got her tongue ripped.
39:39
Out tongue is ripped. All the way out.
39:42
So he's at the police station and he's just kind of shell
39:44
shocked. And then detective dying, just
39:46
like Rose isn't a good out of my brother.
39:49
Yeah, he's like. Yeah, I knew you fucked up.
39:52
Your first mistake was bringing the Rose.
39:54
I'm like, really Like Detective Donnie only sees.
39:58
Dudes that hate their wives. So he can't contemplate like,
40:00
somebody just actually bringing his wife something nice.
40:03
Yeah, Which I get it, like, that's his job, right?
40:05
But. This is pretty hard.
40:07
She's like, you tried too hard to make it look like you love
40:10
your wife, you hate your wife, you killed your wife.
40:13
And then Jamie's Australian slips the tiniest bit and he
40:17
goes, what do you mean Leeser was murdered?
40:20
Leeser. Leeser.
40:22
That's one. Of the slips right there.
40:24
Yeah, yeah. That's a.
40:25
Tale of the dollar. Oh man.
40:26
He's like you didn't. Love your wife and you're
40:29
Australian. Don't even know her name.
40:32
Yeah. Jamie is like, yeah, well if
40:36
you're going to look into anything that's suspicious, how
40:39
about the fucking dummy that was delivered to my door right
40:41
before the murder and steady Dong is like a.
40:44
Dummy didn't commit this murder, and Jamie says, well, in my
40:49
hometown, people would think that the dummy had done it.
40:52
Yeah. And detected Dong is like, what?
40:54
Yeah, it's a bad. Omen.
40:56
It's an omen of death where he's from, apparently.
40:58
Yeah. Which what?
41:01
Yeah. I, I don't know, you know, like
41:03
we're slowly getting the pieces here, I guess a little bit,
41:07
yeah. Whatever, he goes back to his
41:11
apartment, pulls the cover off of the box that the dummy was
41:14
delivered in and it says Mary Shawn, Billy Ravens Fair.
41:16
So he drives to Ravens Fair and he goes to his dad's house and
41:22
meets his dad's new wife. I don't want to call her his
41:25
stepmother because he's a full adult.
41:27
It's at a certain. Point it stops.
41:30
You don't call. You don't adopt the stepmother
41:32
role whenever they're already adults.
41:34
Yeah, it's. It's a little bit and I think I
41:38
wouldn't call her mom. I would.
41:39
Call her by her name? Probably yes.
41:42
And it's also just like the whole like he's never even met
41:44
her. So it just feels really weird to
41:45
be like stepmom. Like it's like you're you're
41:48
dad's wife. So what do you censor?
41:51
Hello. Dad's wife.
41:52
Not, I mean, not exactly. But basically, yeah, yeah.
41:56
So he talks to his dad, who is like, I had a stroke two months
42:01
ago, I tried to call you. You don't answer your phone
42:03
ever. I guess I wasn't a good dad to
42:05
you. I guess maybe that's what you're
42:08
trying to tell me. I don't know.
42:10
They're they're going over. There, there's troubled past,
42:13
but he's like, no, I'm not actually here to talk about
42:14
that. I hear, I hear, I hear to ask
42:17
you something. I hear.
42:19
To ask. He's not.
42:20
He's not only. Australian.
42:21
He's also southern. Yeah, yeah.
42:23
He's like, he asked about the poem.
42:25
I guess he's like, he just wants to know if, like, there's
42:29
anything to it. Yeah, but.
42:31
Ellen, his dad's wife, Ella. Ella is it Ella OK, is like is
42:39
able to recite the rest of the poem.
42:41
The something something scary is and if you see her in your
42:43
dream, never ever, ever scream. Yep, Yep.
42:46
That's the rules. And then?
42:48
As he is. Leaving Ella is like talking to
42:50
him. And it's like, listen, I think
42:52
your dad's really a changed person.
42:53
And he was like, do you see all of these portraits?
42:55
My mom used to be in this one. His second wife used to be in
42:58
this one. His third wife used to be in
43:00
this one. So good on you for outliving him
43:03
because he won't be able to hire somebody to paint you out.
43:05
I think it's also just really. Funny that like the dad is like,
43:09
he's like, I want us it. It makes it come across as like
43:12
I wanted a painting of me and my son standing next to this chair.
43:16
Like we really like this chair. I wish we had seen.
43:19
Like one of the paintings taken off the wall and like halfway
43:22
finished with him. Like partially painted out
43:24
because his dad is mad he hasn't been answering his phone calls.
43:28
That would have been. Amazing.
43:29
Like, Oh my God, great. It's like.
43:35
It's like an extra fuck you to that part in a Silver Linings
43:38
Playbook where they just took down the portrait.
43:41
Like this time you're just painting over it.
43:43
That would have been amazing. I would have loved that.
43:46
So yeah, he goes to the funeral. Home to work with the funeral
43:49
director on the funeral. And this is actually probably
43:52
the most realistic part where the guy's asking 1,000,000
43:55
questions and you're like, Jesus Christ, I didn't know planning a
43:57
funeral was this intensive. Yeah, it is because it is.
44:00
Even. If you have it like pre planned,
44:02
your family still has to do with a lot of extra shit.
44:05
Yeah, it's, it's it's. A lot of running around to do,
44:07
yeah. And he the funeral director,
44:12
Henry says, like, we can't talk about Mary Shaw.
44:13
We're not talking about that. I will get your wife's body
44:16
ready once the police send her over the releasing her tonight,
44:20
which seems really quick for a suspected homicide.
44:25
Yeah, like an autopsy. Have they autopsy I?
44:28
Doubt they bought autopsy. Yeah, probably.
44:31
Not yeah. Wouldn't he be doing the autopsy
44:34
though? They go to like they take them
44:35
to the Funeral Home to perform those.
44:38
I don't. No.
44:40
If it's like an autopsy for like a homicide type thing, then
44:43
that's like an actual like forensic pathology or forensic
44:49
medical examiner. They have to do all of that I
44:52
all of my knowledge. About this is purely from the
44:54
autopsy of Jane Doe, OK, which is just like them performing an
44:58
autopsy at the Funeral Home, I just don't think.
45:02
Henry is specifically qualified as a medical examiner.
45:06
I guess maybe not Whatever. And I also feel like.
45:11
Jamie might be coming from a town big enough to have its own,
45:14
like County Medical examiner, but dude, we don't know.
45:18
We don't. That's where we don't.
45:19
Know as far as we know. This town consists of this
45:23
couple, the dad and Ella and Donnie Walker, and that's where
45:28
when Henry is. Saying like the town doesn't
45:30
talk about Mary Shaw. He's like me.
45:32
I'm the I'm the whole town. I am the town, yeah.
45:35
OK now we are at the motel and Jamie is just going to get some
45:39
shut eye, get some rest in this creepy ass hotel and he props up
45:43
Billy. We don't know it's Billy yet,
45:44
but the doll in the no, we do know it's Billy.
45:47
Is that it on the bucks? Oh OK.
45:49
I never before. He left, isn't it?
45:51
Funny that. Like they couldn't come up with
45:53
another name for a doll. This team, I think every.
45:55
Oh. My God, I didn't even make that
45:58
connection. You didn't?
45:59
No, they're both like. Saw Billy this Billy?
46:01
Well, it's just like ventriloquist dummies.
46:03
Of course it's going to be called Billy.
46:04
To me it just seems like obvious I guess.
46:07
I feel like. This movie like you can do a
46:09
shared universe with all the creepy dolls that like James Wan
46:14
has directed. You can do Annabelle.
46:16
This one, Billy, that's the other Billy.
46:20
But that's enough, yeah. Sorry.
46:22
OK, really creepy scene. Yes, dead silence happens.
46:26
Everything grinds down to a complete quiet creaky sounds and
46:30
then we see the doll's eye shift and that's just said they dilate
46:33
a little bit. So now it's the next.
46:36
Day, Yeah, the funeral director. Has received Lisa's body and he
46:40
like goes it can't be. It can't be and he gets that old
46:44
ass. Camera out and takes a picture
46:46
of it and then he hears his wife.
46:48
Marion, who has crawled into the crawl space because she seems to
46:52
be having some neurocognitive decline, which is really sad.
46:56
Oh, yeah. OK.
46:57
Then we just kind of cut to the funeral.
46:59
Yeah. It just.
47:00
It's just. Happening, yeah, and the whole.
47:02
Town is there. It's the entire town.
47:04
The. Entire town is.
47:05
There. And Marianne, like, is wandering
47:09
in the woods. And Jamie finds her and she
47:11
goes. You saw her in your dreams,
47:12
didn't you? You saw her.
47:14
You mustn't, you mustn't scream. And then Henry's like, Oh my
47:17
God, I can't like, I can't do this.
47:18
What did I say? We're not talking about this.
47:20
We were just not talking about this.
47:23
And then like. He's wandering around like as.
47:25
He is taking Mary at away. She's like, you got to bury the
47:27
doll. He sees the tombstone.
47:31
Of Mary Shaw there too, and he's like, OK, I guess I got to bury,
47:34
like, here. Yeah, so.
47:36
He waits until night, as you do. That's the proper time.
47:40
It's the. Kind time to.
47:41
Do grave robbing. It's the opposite of.
47:44
Grave robbing though he's grave giving.
47:49
He's grave giving. Why don't more people do that?
47:52
Actually, that's terrible. That's just killing.
47:55
That's just murder. You.
47:57
You. Immediately answered your own
47:59
question. That's great.
47:59
That was that was really great to watch that whole like process
48:03
of development in you. I just, I like that as an
48:06
excuse. I'm not a killer, I'm just a
48:07
grave giver, you know? OK.
48:13
So, yeah, he's there at night. He finds Billy's headstone,
48:15
which this explains it so much better later when we find out
48:18
that all of the dolls had to be buried because I was just like,
48:21
damn. Henry didn't bother to learn a
48:23
single person's last name in Raven's Fair because we had
48:26
like, Gregory Robert Delilah. Yeah, it's a lot.
48:33
And they're. Also really tiny graves.
48:35
I'm like is this just like children?
48:36
Like what the fuck but digs it up.
48:39
I would also be rude to. The child, if they only had
48:42
their first name on there, unless they're like Don Tretto's
48:45
baby that didn't have a name for the first six months of his
48:48
life. Yeah, yeah.
48:50
He digs up Billy's grave and opens up the coffin and it's
48:54
empty. Yeah, nothing in there.
48:56
And he just puts. The doll in there, and the
48:58
doll's head turns and he goes. Not going to read too much into
49:01
that. Yeah, that's creepy, but
49:02
whatever. And he goes.
49:04
Back to the motel. He well, he starts to go back to
49:09
the hotel. Things get a little creepy.
49:12
Billy pops it by the window and then that's it.
49:15
Yeah, it's just a little. Jump scare, which is really.
49:18
Anticlimactic after having watched Strangers Chapter 2 with
49:22
her scene in the car in the woods.
49:24
I don't want to spoil that for anybody, but that was probably
49:26
my favorite scene of the whole movie.
49:27
It was pretty, pretty crazy, yeah.
49:30
So next day he's in Montel and he showering, Yeah.
49:35
He leaves the bathroom. And then he's got a wild Donnie
49:37
Wahlberg sitting in the corner of his fucking Montel.
49:39
Which do you think he was more scared to see cuz?
49:41
Billy's propped up on the bed and Donnie Wahlberg is shaved in
49:44
the corner. Like, do you think he was that?
49:46
That is terrifying. This man is like.
49:49
I was partially prepared for Billy to come back out of the
49:52
grave. Yeah.
49:53
Wasn't ready for Detective Donnie.
49:54
Like, yeah. Billy, he gets a well, like
49:58
Donnie. Yeah, exactly.
50:01
And he's like, what? Part of don't leave the city.
50:04
Did you not understand? He's like I needed to bury my
50:06
wife which OK I'm just not realizing the problem with this.
50:10
I get the concept of if you're both from the same hometown you
50:14
would go to the family graves. Where the fuck is Laser's family
50:18
lasers? You're right.
50:20
Where? Like they did?
50:21
No, they came from the same place.
50:22
Because she knew the thing too. Yeah, but why were they?
50:25
Not at the funeral, you're right.
50:27
Why were? They not there I like wouldn't
50:29
it have been? Great to have like a moment with
50:31
like the family being like slapping.
50:34
Him or something also thinking. He committed the murder, working
50:37
with and refusing. To.
50:39
Acknowledge the dummies that way.
50:40
It just seems more and more like Jamie's paranoid.
50:43
Thank God there's so many. Damn you're.
50:45
Right. For the scripts that would have.
50:47
Been good. Did I hear this right?
50:52
I, I think I heard like him say, like he asked Don, he's like,
50:56
why are you even here? And he's like, oh, what?
50:58
You're not the only one in town for a funeral.
50:59
Like did he also attend there for like a separate funeral?
51:04
I. Assumed that he was like vaguely
51:06
threatening Jamie. Was that AI don't know like?
51:09
Because he wouldn't know that he went to Ravens fair.
51:14
Oh, I, he said. You're.
51:15
Not the only one here to visit a cemetery because he was going to
51:19
go check out the cemeteries. OK.
51:21
Yeah, that. Makes sense?
51:22
OK, so he's like, say he like. Buried the evidence because like
51:28
it's. Evidence at this.
51:29
Point. So he takes the doll and he's.
51:31
Like, I'll be seeing your neighbor and that's how we find
51:33
out that they're neighbors in the motel.
51:35
Which makes sense because if there's only like 4 people in
51:38
Raven's Fair, there would only be a 2 room motel.
51:40
Yeah, that's just. So fun.
51:42
I wish they shared a wall and had like one of those doors they
51:45
like you could just go and like Jamie keeps trying to keep it.
51:49
Locked. But Donnie keeps picking the
51:51
lock and he's like, I'm an officer, you can't do this.
51:53
This will be some. Yeah.
51:55
And so in the morning. Jamie breaks into Detective
51:58
Donnie's motel room to get Billy and he takes Billy to Marion so
52:03
he can try and get more information.
52:05
Henry is terrified when he gets there because he is afraid of
52:10
both Mary and Mary Shaw and Billy and this is where we get
52:14
the background. Mary Shaw was a ventriloquist
52:17
who lost. Her voice.
52:20
So there was. A show, one of her last shows in
52:24
town, she was doing her performance and this little
52:27
shitty kid Heckler was like, your lips are moving and Mary
52:31
Shaw can all take an ounce of criticism.
52:34
She could have just. Like, worked with it and done
52:36
crowd work, which she kind of does here, but then she takes
52:39
it. It's not fun.
52:40
Yeah. She Yeah.
52:42
She she makes a fool of him, which poorly, but the crowd eats
52:47
it up. Yeah, and I was just.
52:49
You were confused. Like what?
52:51
Happened where did where did he get served?
52:53
Can you pinpoint the moment that this child got served?
52:55
Yes, I like. I want that Simpsons Ralph
52:58
heartbreak moment. I wanted to be able to pause,
53:01
pause right there and see the moment.
53:03
Yeah. Because.
53:04
I like the scene finished and I was like did I miss something?
53:08
Like what is the most? What is so?
53:09
Egregious you like. You oh why happened?
53:12
I'm like I explained. Everything and you're like, no,
53:14
but like, but why? Like why was he hurt?
53:16
Like what? All she did was say who's the
53:18
dummy? Now, yeah, and she didn't even
53:20
she's. She's just it.
53:23
It was bad crowd work, but I don't know, apparently like that
53:25
was like devastated him back. In the day, that was some
53:28
heinous. Shit, it devastated that little
53:30
boy. And he disappeared a week later
53:33
and nobody found out whatever happened to him, but they all
53:36
suspected it has something to do with Mary Shaw.
53:38
And then she was just dead. We're skipping over the details
53:43
on that. But she's dead.
53:44
She has to be buried with her dolls.
53:46
And she also wanted to become one.
53:48
And young Henry, who is played by a young Paul from It Follows.
53:53
Yeah. And I also want to.
53:55
Just point out that kid kept the fucking hairstyle of a 5 year
53:59
old all the way up until he was in his 20s.
54:02
Yeah, he's got long hair now. Yeah, he's got long hair.
54:04
It's just funny. He looks exactly.
54:05
He's like the same kid, just shrunk.
54:08
Yeah, like we're both. Like, yeah, no, that's Paul.
54:11
That's Paul for sure. So he snuck into because the
54:14
Funeral Home is the family business.
54:16
So he snuck into seeing Mary Shaw's body and almost, I'm
54:21
going to say he almost gets killed because he knocked the
54:25
coffin over. It should have squished his tiny
54:27
little body. It should like I was thinking
54:29
the. Entire time.
54:29
Like the way that he is standing and like the way it's falling.
54:32
It should have landed directly on him, but it didn't.
54:35
It didn't. It falls beside him.
54:36
Yeah. The coffin pops open and Mary
54:38
Shaw's body falls out and she's turned into a dummy doll.
54:41
And This is why you. Guys need to write into corncob
54:44
TV and tell them that you want him to stay on the air because
54:48
we need shows like Coffin Flop Coffin, Yeah.
54:51
Coffin flop. Yeah, honestly, this is the
54:53
pilot, right? Yeah, it's a bait and switch
54:57
because everybody thinks it's gonna be a horror show, but it
54:59
actually it gets a little campy in the later series.
55:03
It was a backdoor pilot. OK.
55:05
There's just like just. In case we have potential here
55:07
with this idea. Yeah, but that's a traumatizing
55:10
thing to have happen to you. Not only just seeing the fucking
55:14
dead body like that, but where it's cut with a dummy mouth and
55:19
it's just scary. They make the Mary Shaw
55:21
character actually scary in the scene.
55:24
You know what? I.
55:25
Wanna crossover between Dead Silence and Leatherface?
55:28
I want the Mary Shaw prequel and they bring in Bubba to because
55:33
that's the ultimate arts and crafts.
55:35
But he would. Take her face, but maybe he
55:38
would give her one of. His old masks he doesn't use
55:40
anymore. Oh, he gives.
55:41
Her a face, Yeah. Grave.
55:43
Giving. He's grave giving.
55:45
That's dead silence to grave giving.
55:48
Yeah. We got the crossover right.
55:50
Here we go. Pre sequel.
55:52
We'll be waiting. For your call.
55:53
Yeah, Anyone know? Hit us up, baby.
55:56
You don't have to doctor the script.
55:58
It's already written, yeah. That's all you need, yeah.
56:02
Yeah. And then?
56:03
All of a sudden murder started happening.
56:05
Everybody was missing a tongue after the fact, and everybody
56:07
moved away from Raven's Fair. That wasn't murdered.
56:09
It's all everybody. Involved with the killing yeah,
56:12
because he also reveals that like there was a mob justice
56:15
because the ashen. Family owns Raven Town.
56:19
They are Raven's Fair. I mean, Raven's Fair.
56:21
Yeah, yeah. For.
56:22
The whole town, the entire mob was the Ashton family.
56:28
We don't know that yet, but we're going to find that out.
56:31
Why though, does? Henry feel like he has to take a
56:34
picture of every victim. I don't know.
56:37
We don't really. Get that answer.
56:39
Maybe he also. Thinks he's supposed to be
56:41
performing the autopsy and he's like I know people take pictures
56:45
during autopsies he but he doesn't it's.
56:47
Like a thing, like he has to do it as a part of this thing or
56:50
else he'll die. I think I'm just I'm.
56:53
During my annual rewatch of Scream Queens and I'm just
56:56
picturing the first season, the woman in the asylum who's like,
56:59
I paint them all. Like sometimes like I shoot them
57:03
all. I guess he does.
57:05
Yeah, it's something like. I wish that we had an
57:08
explanation. But anyways, we now see there's
57:14
this amazing transition shot that I love where it's like
57:19
Jamie is sitting there and then we see the map and it zooms into
57:22
the map, and then the map turns into the landscape and it's him
57:25
driving down the road and he's got Billy in the car with him.
57:29
It's going to take Billy back to get buried again.
57:32
And meanwhile, Detective. Donnie is out at the cemetery
57:35
trying to try and gather some information.
57:38
He's digging up Mary Shaw. 'S grave, yes, Yeah.
57:42
Jamie goes to the theater, which was also Mary Shaw's house.
57:46
Again, I kind of like this lady style.
57:49
You have to take a rowboat or ferry or the in betweener
57:54
gondola to get to her home. Yeah, yeah, you know it.
57:57
Is kind of cool, but like I feel like it seems like she.
58:00
Would have had very early warning that the mob was coming
58:03
to do vigilante justice on her cuz like oh look at all the row
58:06
boats coming. I should probably hide.
58:09
I'm just like. I'm just thinking of like it
58:12
would just of bringing groceries back to your house.
58:14
Like that shit sucks. Like I got to go back to my car
58:16
and get another Mary Shaw for sure just ate.
58:18
Like cockroaches. Like, you're right, you're
58:20
right. She was a very tiny person.
58:25
Tiny person creepy. As hell she ate cockroaches.
58:29
OK. Yeah, you're right.
58:31
Yeah. So he while he's there.
58:32
He's looking around. He almost dies on the little
58:35
like walkway up at the top behind the stage.
58:40
And he gets into her studio and finds her scrapbook with like,
58:44
all of the doll design information and the newspaper
58:49
article about the missing boy, whose name is Michael Asher or
58:52
Ashton I, I think it's. Wild that she scrapbooks the
58:57
stuff. What like.
58:59
I get that we're supposed to believe, like, psychologically
59:03
killers revel in their murders. Yeah, and that's why they keep
59:06
things like that. But it's almost become as lazy
59:10
as, like, no cell phone signal trope in horror movies.
59:13
Like. Oh, OK, so we know she did the
59:16
killing and she kept the newspaper article.
59:18
Yeah. Yeah.
59:19
But. Like what if she just really.
59:20
Hated that guy and she was glad that like, he disappeared and
59:23
she was like, good, that's plausible.
59:25
Too, Because that little shit called her out.
59:27
Yeah, and then this woman. Lives in a a creepy theater Moat
59:31
and eats cockroaches. Of course she's going to
59:33
scrapbook things. Even if she wasn't directly
59:35
responsible for the murder. Yeah, you know what?
59:37
I would. Buy If I were Detective Donnie.
59:39
Honestly, that's a convincing story like Detective Donnie is.
59:43
Probably Like how can I prove that Jamie made his great uncle
59:46
disappear? Did he give him a rough 50
59:49
years? Ago.
59:55
Yeah, OK. So.
59:55
He hears some some sounds and there's a ghost in the mirror.
59:59
Yeah. That's it.
1:00:01
Yeah, Henry. Here's Marian.
1:00:05
Yeah, she's crying in the crawl space.
1:00:07
This is one of those moments where it's like the.
1:00:08
Distant crying. That's just really creepy.
1:00:11
Yeah. And then he also.
1:00:12
Hears another voice arguing with her and it's the sound of Billy
1:00:16
and he's like OK, we're going to get Billy, we're going to take
1:00:20
him, we're going to bury him. Not dealing with this anymore,
1:00:24
but because he's hearing Marian cry, he's like I need to get her
1:00:26
out of the crawl space first. And he gets in there.
1:00:29
It stops sounding like Marian and starts sounding like Billy
1:00:31
again. He sees Mary and he screams
1:00:33
because of course you do, even though he knows you're not
1:00:35
supposed to scream. He's in a crawl space with a
1:00:37
ghost woman. She's who lived in a castle
1:00:40
behind a Moat and it cockroaches and scrapbooked about
1:00:44
disappearing children. Who wouldn't scream?
1:00:46
Who wouldn't? Scream.
1:00:47
Yeah, you're set up for failure. With her, honestly, it's not
1:00:50
fair. Yeah.
1:00:51
So yeah, he. Gets his tongue ripped out,
1:00:53
yeah. And we see the aftermath.
1:00:54
Immediately. Pretty brutal.
1:00:56
Can I OK? So the set the sequel to this is
1:01:00
the Texas Chainsaw crossover. But I want the rusty nail.
1:01:06
Crossover to be the third one. It's like you taking out
1:01:09
tongues. We've been taking out jaws to
1:01:11
Mamacita. We're just gonna get this all
1:01:13
out. It's like so.
1:01:15
Obviously we got, we're gonna, I got this.
1:01:18
We're gonna workshop this at the end.
1:01:20
I mean, it's too soon to go into this now, but I've got this.
1:01:23
OK? So Jamie goes back to confront
1:01:27
his dad and his dad explains everything about his great
1:01:32
uncle. I mean it's like it is his great
1:01:33
uncle. The kid was vigilante.
1:01:36
Yeah, vigilante groups sought her out, cut out her tongue, and
1:01:39
then everybody involved in that was killed after one by one.
1:01:42
And then also their wives, their children. 4th entry in this
1:01:47
franchise's final destination. Yeah, Bloodlines.
1:01:50
And. He's like, that's why I sent you
1:01:53
away as a child because I wanted you as far away from this as
1:01:55
possible. And James was like, well, sure
1:01:57
didn't help when I got son of ventriloquist dummy did it.
1:02:01
Got you there. Yeah.
1:02:02
Checkmate. So he.
1:02:04
Throws out and on his way out, what do you know when Donnie's
1:02:07
at the door? Yeah, like.
1:02:11
Tony's just everywhere. He's he's everywhere.
1:02:14
Always. Like he is a fucking jump scare
1:02:16
himself. I love it.
1:02:18
I love it, I love. Jump scare Donnie.
1:02:20
Yeah. And he's.
1:02:21
Like he, he's like. You're he's trying.
1:02:27
To arrest him, he's like, he's like all of the dolls were
1:02:29
missing at the cemetery and Maria Shaw's body.
1:02:32
You're creepy. You probably also eat
1:02:34
cockroaches. I'm going to arrest you.
1:02:37
And Jamie says bet. And he's just like manages to
1:02:41
run away. He gets a call from.
1:02:42
Henry. Not Henry and Henry's like.
1:02:46
Meet me at her house. I've got proof that you didn't
1:02:49
kill your wife. And Jamie's like she.
1:02:51
He's got proof that I didn't kill my wife and Donnie's like,
1:02:53
no, that's not how this works. That's a weak shit story.
1:02:57
I'm going to. Arrest you.
1:02:58
I'm not. Going to read your rights.
1:02:59
I will grossly violate all of your rights, as a matter of
1:03:02
fact, and I'm going to shave in front of you.
1:03:05
It's just get in the car and Jamie's like he grabs him and
1:03:12
throws it. It's not a shove, it is a grab
1:03:14
and throw. Donnie sells that.
1:03:16
Shit, he does he. Does he sells it better than
1:03:19
some wrestlers? He is a flopper.
1:03:21
In basketball, if you play pick up ball with Donnie, he he'll
1:03:25
flop. So, Jamie.
1:03:28
He runs. Do you think he had to do that
1:03:30
with? Like growing up with Mark, cuz
1:03:34
Mark probably couldn't stand loose like anything.
1:03:36
So you have to worry. Donnie.
1:03:37
Yeah. Donnie was like, all right, I
1:03:39
gotta really sell. And self preservation, yeah.
1:03:43
You gotta curl up and pretend you're dead or I was like.
1:03:46
Yeah, honestly, yeah. What is this life that we have
1:03:53
developed for this family? It's probably accurate.
1:03:57
I feel like we need to. We need to watch some episodes
1:04:00
of Hamburgers just to see what their what their dynamic really
1:04:03
is. Yeah.
1:04:05
OK so Jamie is in the car driving off, Donnie is in hot
1:04:08
pursuit in his cop car and they make it.
1:04:11
I'm surprised he doesn't have like the.
1:04:13
Little like wee woo thing to put on top.
1:04:15
He might not be a cop. OK, like honestly, that's
1:04:19
another plausible response. What was the second?
1:04:22
Twist to the movie. Yeah, like, cuz, cuz, Jamie,
1:04:25
like, say he survives and he goes to the conversation.
1:04:28
He was like, listen, I can tell you what happened to Detective
1:04:29
Donnie. And they're like, he he lost his
1:04:32
badge eight years ago. Yeah, he went missing as the
1:04:37
victim of the Jigsaw Killer dude.
1:04:40
That would have been awesome to tie it in right there cuz he's a
1:04:44
cop in that Yeah. And we don't know what.
1:04:46
City What city Jamie was living in beforehand, he could very
1:04:50
easily be a resident of Saltville, Sawville, many of
1:04:53
the. Saw films were filmed in Canada.
1:04:54
Yeah, could be in the same place.
1:04:57
Oh my God, it. Just keeps going deeper it does
1:05:00
OK so they're. At the theater now, and Donnie
1:05:02
catches up to him, but he's like, all right, I'm going to
1:05:05
rush you for real this time. He's like, no, Henry's here.
1:05:07
He's like, Henry is totally not here.
1:05:09
And then not Henry's like I'm here and so.
1:05:13
Yeah, the detective is like following him the whole time
1:05:16
they get to a storage room and it looks it's.
1:05:22
Kind of like the scene in. Cabin of the Woods, where they
1:05:25
have, like, all of the horrors and their own little cube cubes.
1:05:28
Yeah. And it's cool.
1:05:29
That's the dolls. Yeah.
1:05:30
The curtain drops. And every fucking doll in the
1:05:33
city. God, if I ever turn.
1:05:35
Into a ghost. I'm hope I'm half as theatrical
1:05:38
as Mary Shaw. Me too.
1:05:40
Really. She does a great job and she had
1:05:42
like a lot of to. Different dolls.
1:05:43
How did she even have time to do that many routines?
1:05:45
Because there were like 20 people in Ravens Fair when it
1:05:47
was so fully populated. I mean, that's the town.
1:05:51
That's all the people she killed.
1:05:55
She turns them into dolls. Is that?
1:05:59
Actually, what? I'm pretty sure that's what it
1:06:00
is, yeah. That's all the people she
1:06:02
killed, I don't feel like. That's what it was.
1:06:05
You see pictures of them. Turned into dolls afterwards.
1:06:08
Like you see that that's what like she doesn't, I don't think
1:06:11
actually does she. I think she actually is turning
1:06:14
them into the dogs. OK, maybe I missed.
1:06:16
Something. Yeah, especially because if her
1:06:18
first one was Michael Ashton, he didn't She didn't do a good job
1:06:20
with him because he still looked like a boy.
1:06:23
They all have the. Same face.
1:06:24
She's not like, you know, good at doing.
1:06:27
She's got, she's one of those people that draws the same face.
1:06:30
She makes the same face. She's the matte.
1:06:33
Graining style, yeah. Or Kira.
1:06:35
Toriyama, anyway. The only one that's missing is
1:06:38
Billy number 57. How do you have?
1:06:42
How do you have? 56.
1:06:43
Other billies, you got a total of like $70.
1:06:46
Why are 57 of them named Billy? I don't know why that made me
1:06:49
think of that. Mamba Mamba number. 5 A little
1:06:54
bit of Billy in my life, A little bit of Billy kind of
1:06:58
nice. That was Mary Shaw's favorite
1:07:00
song. A little bit of Billy.
1:07:02
All I need man. The war in this movie is just I
1:07:08
I like. Our lore.
1:07:10
This is great. This is great.
1:07:12
It's this fantastic we've. Got a creepy clown doll in a
1:07:16
tiny creepy doll sized rocking chair in the attic.
1:07:20
Donnie's got a shotgun and the clown is like come closer, Jamie
1:07:25
and Jamie's like, why should I? And the dolls like I'll tell you
1:07:29
why your wife died. And he's like, OK.
1:07:31
And Donnie's like don't do it. Just keep shaking his head and
1:07:34
he's like no. He's shaking his head.
1:07:35
I know, but he's standing behind Jamie.
1:07:38
Of course Jamie didn't see the nose shaking.
1:07:40
Yeah, I know that's true. But like, you know what?
1:07:44
If he had been shaving at the same time he would have heard
1:07:46
the nose shaking because of like the Poplar effect.
1:07:57
Honestly, this movie is like, if they had that, that would be
1:08:01
like friends come over. I got this new sound system.
1:08:05
Like it's fucking like surround sound.
1:08:07
You can hear Donnie shave his neck through the whole house.
1:08:18
Like that's like the. Like reference level right
1:08:20
there. This honestly the.
1:08:22
Shaver thing has to be James Wan.
1:08:24
He is like, he's got such a weird sense of humor like he
1:08:28
does. That has to be his input.
1:08:32
He's so good, OK, but he's got the shotgun and they're inching
1:08:35
closer and closer to the clown doll, and he finally gets close
1:08:39
enough and the clown actually whispers what happened.
1:08:42
He's like. Your wife was pregnant.
1:08:46
Paganante. And.
1:08:50
Then Mary Shaw appears behind the doll.
1:08:53
Yeah, and. They yeah, they are freaking
1:08:57
out. Dave.
1:08:57
Detective Donnie shoots at them. I can't believe he actually
1:09:00
shoots a. Ghost.
1:09:02
Yeah, he shoots at a. Ghost.
1:09:04
He shoots at the dolls that are reacting.
1:09:07
The A fire starts a lot of. Shit's happening.
1:09:10
I. Think as well because these.
1:09:11
Dolls were made in, like, the 1940s, and I guess everything
1:09:13
was flammable. You're right.
1:09:15
Yeah. And so they're trying to run
1:09:17
away. And as they're, like, running
1:09:19
Detective Donnie falls. And I feel like this is.
1:09:24
I feel like this is unfair. Because he's screaming about the
1:09:26
fall and not screaming about Mary Shaw.
1:09:28
That Mary Shaw's like, yeah, he didn't.
1:09:31
He couldn't make his case here. Yeah, yeah.
1:09:33
And so. She, like, swoops him again.
1:09:36
This is a very fast and furious type of like, yeah,
1:09:39
intervention. I didn't expect that, honestly.
1:09:41
Like, yeah, why not just let him fall?
1:09:43
She has to get his tongue, I guess, but you can get the
1:09:44
tongue afterwards. She wanted to prove that she
1:09:46
could. Do it before he hit the ground.
1:09:47
That's true. And she did.
1:09:49
So that was impressive. Jamie falls through into the
1:09:53
floor of this building, which is how we find out that it's
1:09:55
actually built over top of the lake.
1:09:58
How? How does this thing like stand
1:10:00
instead of a houseboat? It's a house theater or a boat.
1:10:05
Like houseboat, theater boat, theater boat, theater boat
1:10:08
there. We go.
1:10:09
That's how that word works. Yeah.
1:10:12
Yeah. And he swims.
1:10:14
Through the bottom out and he's in the cemetery now and then
1:10:19
he's. Like, all right, well, I gotta
1:10:22
go get that one last stall and get rid of it, and then the time
1:10:26
will be safe. So he goes to Marian and Henry's
1:10:29
house, and he sees Marian holding Henry's body.
1:10:32
And she says that Edward took Billy number 57.
1:10:37
And he was like, my dad's impossible, but my dad can't
1:10:40
walk. And she was like, I don't know
1:10:41
what you want me to tell you. My husband's dead.
1:10:43
Thanks for acknowledging that. Like, I thought we could have,
1:10:45
like, a little support for each other since you just lost your
1:10:48
wife. That's fine.
1:10:49
She's just bawling. He's like me.
1:10:50
Me, you know my husband is. Dead.
1:10:54
Who will Get Me Out of crawl spaces now?
1:10:56
I had to get him out of the crawl space.
1:10:58
It's not OK. Oh, that's true.
1:11:00
It's so sad. It is.
1:11:01
It's actually really like I I forgot that she was holding his
1:11:03
body. In the sea.
1:11:04
Yeah, so he goes back to his dad's house and he finds Billy
1:11:09
and Mary attacks, but Jamie throws Billy onto the fire in
1:11:13
the fireplace, and then he. Realizes something's a little
1:11:20
fishy. And he goes to check on his dad,
1:11:23
and he goes behind his dad. We get this.
1:11:29
Song. Esque ending here.
1:11:31
It's like quick shots of flashbacks, and the editing
1:11:34
style is exactly the same from the theater across the lake.
1:11:37
Right here, Yogi Comedy. Yeah, I'm trying to do that
1:11:42
without a tongue. That was pretty good then.
1:11:44
Thank you. But like, yeah, the back is all
1:11:48
hollowed out. Yeah.
1:11:49
And the dads turn into a doll. And then you see these shots of
1:11:52
Ella using him as, like, a ventriloquist dummy.
1:11:54
Yeah, Like And any time. That we like when he got the
1:11:57
call from Henry, like she was the one that I brought on the
1:11:59
phone, Like we see all of these things that had happened.
1:12:04
Did he not smell awful? Yeah, because he doesn't.
1:12:07
Look. Super embalmed.
1:12:10
Like this the in. The Hollowed.
1:12:12
Out parts of them are still kind of gooey looking.
1:12:14
Yeah, no, it's. That that's an inconsistency.
1:12:18
That shit would be rank and this was enough to just.
1:12:21
Completely break Jamie's brain. He screams.
1:12:24
Ellen is actually Mary. Why and how that is a little
1:12:30
bit. Confusing and when.
1:12:33
Yeah. I.
1:12:37
That is really confusing. It's like she wanted a toy with
1:12:39
her victim. She could have just, like,
1:12:41
killed him. But I guess she, like, the whole
1:12:43
point is like, I got to make him scream.
1:12:44
Yeah. Like she can't.
1:12:46
Like she's she's a ghost of her word.
1:12:49
Like when the clown was like come closer and I will tell you
1:12:51
what happened to your wife. And now she's like the poem says
1:12:54
that you you can't scream, but if you scream, I get to kill
1:12:57
you. And you don't even have to be
1:12:58
screaming at me. You just have to be screaming
1:13:00
near me. I just like but like how long
1:13:06
does that last? For you know what I mean?
1:13:08
Cuz like, all right. I'm going to go back to the.
1:13:11
Candy man analogy. Like what?
1:13:13
Like how many times like. What's the space?
1:13:16
What's the length of time between the candy man's?
1:13:19
The Candy Man's. Yeah, before sound.
1:13:22
Like the fucking people. From Key and Peele.
1:13:24
The candy man's though, Yeah. Candy man's though.
1:13:27
Like what is the length of time that can pass before you say the
1:13:30
last one? And then it's like, ah, he's
1:13:32
coming to get you. And it's the same thing with
1:13:36
this. Like how long after you see Mary
1:13:38
Shaw are you allowed to scream again?
1:13:39
Cuz like what if you dream about her and then like 3 months later
1:13:43
you've forgotten all about it and you go to a roller coaster?
1:13:45
I think it has to be in her presence.
1:13:47
Right, I don't know. I think.
1:13:49
I think. That's the case.
1:13:50
She has to be there like to get you.
1:13:54
Like you can scream and not be around her.
1:13:56
I think I'm just saying like there's.
1:13:58
So much possibility for lore and fun with this.
1:14:01
And we got none of it. And I know that they can do that
1:14:04
because they gave us Detective Donnie shaving.
1:14:06
I know that they can give us a lot more fun than they did.
1:14:09
Yeah, I blame. The Script Doctor.
1:14:12
Yeah, let's blame the script doctor.
1:14:13
They. They deserve the blame, but I
1:14:15
will bump it up to. A5 OK, just.
1:14:19
Because. It's the fun we made.
1:14:22
Along the way it is. Honestly, we this is this is a
1:14:26
good one to just, it's like a make your own war.
1:14:29
Yeah. Choose your own adventure.
1:14:30
Yeah. That's what we did here.
1:14:31
We did that really be where you're in.
1:14:33
For you choose the scare. That's what it is.
1:14:35
Yeah. I I'm.
1:14:37
Keeping mine at 8. OK, so.
1:14:40
Now we're at 6.5. OK, Yeah, no, yes.
1:14:45
Mm, hmm, mm, hmm. 6.756.7. No 6.5. 6.5 It's six point.
1:14:54
Five. Are we sure?
1:14:55
Yes. I don't think so.
1:14:56
Sure 13 / 2 is 6.5. We did too much flip flopping.
1:14:59
For me to be certain about that flip flopping.
1:15:02
I got cough and flop on the brain.
1:15:05
There's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot.
1:15:06
OK. OK, Italia.
1:15:10
Yeah, what did Italia think of this?
1:15:11
She was like tantruming. Last night she just wanted to
1:15:14
sleep. She didn't wanna like, she loves
1:15:17
to scream. I was gonna say that's her
1:15:18
favorite. Activity Talia's super vocal.
1:15:20
And it honestly kind of pissed through the fuck off because she
1:15:24
already had powder for jaw removed so she already kind of
1:15:26
lived through like the joyride experience.
1:15:28
True. And also like.
1:15:29
Her favorite thing is her tongue.
1:15:30
Yeah, she loves to lick things. Yeah.
1:15:32
And if you've ever been. Near her, you know, like she
1:15:34
will, she'll lick, she'll try and touch tongues with you if
1:15:37
you give her the if you give her the opening, I think for that
1:15:40
reason. This is an effective movie for
1:15:42
her. And she was.
1:15:43
She was. Dreaming and barking in her
1:15:45
sleep. Yeah.
1:15:45
And she likes, you know. Dolls and toys too, like this is
1:15:49
like this checks all the boxes for her.
1:15:51
We'll give it a 10 for. Immersion for her.
1:15:52
Yeah, OK. Zoe's ultimate warrior.
1:15:57
Zoe was very insistent on. Trying to cuddle last night, she
1:15:59
was. But.
1:16:01
I don't think. Zoe.
1:16:05
I think she liked Mary or. Not Mary, Marian, because of,
1:16:09
like, her going in the crawl space over and over again
1:16:11
because Zoe likes to go in those hard to find places.
1:16:13
Yeah, Zoe likes to. Crawl into the couch or under
1:16:16
the bed or into her litter box. She likes to go to some hidden
1:16:18
place and then just under the material.
1:16:22
Until somebody comes. And finds her.
1:16:23
Yeah, yeah, she's. Like she's playing Marco Polo
1:16:26
with? You.
1:16:27
Yeah, she is. OK, so.
1:16:28
Yeah, she's Marian. OK.
1:16:30
Who did you relate to? I related to Lisa because I.
1:16:37
Just want some fucking Chinese food.
1:16:39
Our favorite Chinese. Restaurant in.
1:16:41
Town got close by the yeah the health department like 3 years
1:16:46
ago and I'm still not over it. We've tried multiple other
1:16:48
Chinese places since then and hit the same.
1:16:51
I relate to Jamie because. When we want to take out, I'm
1:16:54
the one that always has to go out and pick up the food, yeah.
1:16:57
Yeah, not related to them. Like I, you know, same.
1:17:00
Like I, I'm the one that goes out and gets the food.
1:17:02
I feel you buddy. Even in the rain, like Jamie was
1:17:07
we're. Melman, US.
1:17:08
People. Yeah, yeah.
1:17:10
No matter the weather, we go out and we get the food.
1:17:14
Yeah. That's you're the hunter
1:17:16
gatherer. Yes, thank you.
1:17:19
Yeah. OK, we've done a very bad job of
1:17:23
what would Dom do the past few weeks again, not to kind of like
1:17:28
keep hit banging the same gong, but it's there's been a lot of
1:17:33
like life happening at us. So yeah, so we've we've.
1:17:36
Been a little bit distracted. I'm so sorry.
1:17:38
We're we're. Here, now we're.
1:17:39
Gonna we're gonna ask what would Dom do?
1:17:43
How would Dom handle this? First of all, he would
1:17:46
immediately like, Jamie understands that the doll is an
1:17:50
omen. It is a sign.
1:17:52
It means somebody's coming for you.
1:17:53
So he's going to gather all of the people who have once sent
1:17:56
him ominous signs, but now they're part of the family, and
1:17:59
they're going to go figure out what's going on.
1:18:01
I think this is going to be heavily Statham as a sidekick in
1:18:05
this one. OK, let's see that.
1:18:08
Yeah. He's big on his family, too.
1:18:10
Yeah. You know, honestly, I think I
1:18:12
think Don would see how Ashton handled it and he's like, I also
1:18:17
want to make my own town with the only being my family as
1:18:22
residents and detective. Donnie is still in it and he's
1:18:25
still following and him and Don have like a lot of words back
1:18:29
and forth, and that's that why we know in the next one like
1:18:32
he'll be part of the family too. Yes, there we go.
1:18:35
And then in that. Movie Marky Mark will be the bad
1:18:38
guy, and Detective Donnie has to decide.
1:18:41
Like, know where my loyalty's lying?
1:18:44
Perfect. And it's just, it's a
1:18:46
heartbreaker because it's family versus family, and Dom can't
1:18:49
handle that shit. Yeah, he's like.
1:18:51
It's Family Guy, so we can't make a man turn his back on his
1:18:54
family. Except he did that to his.
1:18:56
Brothers too. Well, yeah, Dom was a hypocrite.
1:18:58
Yeah, OK. Like we He never said he's a
1:19:00
perfect person. He just wants everybody else to
1:19:02
call him perfect. Exactly.
1:19:04
Yeah. OK, now dream sequel.
1:19:08
OK, All right, so. We're we're doing the.
1:19:10
Crossover. Yes, we we have lots of
1:19:11
crossover. Ideas.
1:19:12
I want to hear what you were cooking up.
1:19:15
OK, so. God, I fucking forgot.
1:19:20
OK, what were we saying that we were gonna do?
1:19:22
What was the thing gonna be? So the second one was gonna be.
1:19:24
Crossover with Texas Chainsaw because Bubba is gonna help make
1:19:29
people into dolls. Yes, because he likes his arts
1:19:32
and crafts. Yeah, the third one would be a
1:19:35
crossover with Final Destination because it's just like killing
1:19:39
all the people in the bloodlines.
1:19:40
OK, we said something with. Saw so yes.
1:19:44
It's, well, it's just. Saulville.
1:19:45
Like this is actually Jamie's from Saulville, and Detective
1:19:48
Donnie is the detective from Saul 2.
1:19:55
We've called him Detective Donnie too many times for me to
1:19:57
get his name pulled up into my brain right now.
1:20:00
OK, God. Damn it, it's on like I had it
1:20:04
and it's on my head here and I can't fucking remember what I
1:20:07
was going to say. It has something to do with him
1:20:11
being a cop tying them into saw. So.
1:20:18
There were actually 2 missing puppets, Billy number 57 and
1:20:22
Billy never. What if that Billy is Billy?
1:20:24
Number 57 He buried the wrong Billy.
1:20:29
My God, that's. Not what I was going for, but.
1:20:35
Whatever that works. That works perfectly fine.
1:20:38
Cool, right? New tag line.
1:20:41
New tag. Line new tag line.
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Silent but deadly. Yes.
1:20:53
OK. That's been Talia the past few
1:21:01
days, by the way, except for this morning when you picked.
1:21:03
Her up and squeezed a fart out of her.
1:21:04
Yeah, you can squeeze them out of her.
1:21:07
She's like, she's like a toy. They wanna speak toy.
1:21:10
Sometimes she's their own whoopie cushion.
1:21:12
Yeah OK, I pulled 2 reviews cuz I didn't know how you would feel
1:21:17
about this. So you're still kind of on the
1:21:20
opposite. Yeah.
1:21:20
I think we're turning more towards positive though since
1:21:23
you're in, we're in the middle with you.
1:21:24
Yeah. All right.
1:21:25
So I'll read the positive and then the negative.
1:21:28
OK, so 7 out of 10 still holds up.
1:21:31
Well, in 2019 after watching the first few Saw movies, I kept
1:21:34
thinking to myself that the doll was creepy enough to have a
1:21:36
horror movie based on itself. And a few years later I found
1:21:39
this gem and I've been revisiting it over the years
1:21:41
since. It's 2019 and I just rewatched
1:21:43
it again a few nights back with a friend and it was an
1:21:45
entertaining ride. The movie itself isn't any kind
1:21:48
of masterpiece. Acting, riding and plot are all
1:21:50
rather average, but there is some effect of horror,
1:21:53
atmosphere and effects packed in.
1:21:54
While the plot is nothing original or fresh beyond, it's
1:21:57
played straight in a way that will keep you interested.
1:21:59
That is kind of James wants. So it's a breezy movie that you
1:22:03
can watch and enjoy with a roommate late at night.
1:22:05
That's true. You do not have to think a lot
1:22:07
about this movie. Yeah, that's true.
1:22:09
It's just an experience. Yeah, it's pretty easy going.
1:22:12
It does do a good job. With the atmosphere and it's
1:22:16
definitely something that you can just have on because even if
1:22:18
you're paying attention to your shoulder, go, go, wait, what
1:22:21
happened? So yeah, I think the only.
1:22:23
The acting wasn't anything I. Wouldn't say.
1:22:26
Anybody did bad, but I think Jamie was kind of a ish.
1:22:30
He wasn't great. He kind of felt like a.
1:22:33
Gary Stew. Honestly, a little bit.
1:22:35
A little bit. Yeah.
1:22:38
OK, this one, it was a long 1, so I'm just gonna read a snippet
1:22:44
of it. OK?
1:22:46
It was so ridiculous how the old man Henry kept saying that the
1:22:48
town doesn't dare speak Mary Shaw's name.
1:22:50
And he did it over and over. It took a lot of the sting out
1:22:53
of any believability that all the residents were afraid.
1:22:56
But the the scenes where Harry describes Mary Shaw's dying wish
1:22:59
to be made into a doll herself was Slash is completely
1:23:01
unethical for a mortician to do. Oh, OK.
1:23:04
That's why we need Bubba. Yeah, I understand the
1:23:07
suspension of disbelief, but shouldn't even fantasy appear to
1:23:10
be as close to reality as possible so that it's scarier?
1:23:13
Having the final dummy say to Jamie that it wants to whisper
1:23:15
something in his ear was just plain bogus.
1:23:17
They're supposedly so afraid of the thing and then all of a
1:23:20
sudden he becomes brave enough to get close in order to get a
1:23:22
good face licking. Please.
1:23:27
And since the wife was murdered, there would have been an inquest
1:23:29
in the autopsy would have revealed she was pregnant way
1:23:32
before we find out near the end. I had.
1:23:35
I agree with the earlier post that said the story could have
1:23:38
been fleshed out more. In addition, there should have
1:23:39
been more scenes of Mary Shaw because she was creepy enough
1:23:41
all by her lonesome that thought Billy was nothing on her.
1:23:45
There should have been a flashback scene of Mary Shaw
1:23:46
doing gruesome things so the audience could appreciate a good
1:23:49
scare or at the very least give the appearance that she had
1:23:52
something to do with the little boy's disappearance.
1:23:54
Jamie couldn't even remember the fairy tale, let alone who Shaw
1:23:56
was, so how are viewers supposed to be frightened unless we were
1:23:58
Privy to how sick Mary could really get?
1:24:01
The best part of the entire film for me was when all sound
1:24:03
completely stopped, waiting to see what happens next.
1:24:06
I agree with that part. I disagree with their needing to
1:24:11
be more Mary Shaw. I thought she was used the
1:24:14
perfect amount because if you overexpose her I think she
1:24:17
becomes less effective. No, I.
1:24:20
Think. It's kind of like what I was
1:24:22
saying before, where I wish we had more of her background, like
1:24:25
I mean more of her when she was alive, OK?
1:24:28
Because. If they can do gross and
1:24:31
gruesome shit when they're alive, imagine when they're
1:24:34
ghosts and they can. Like they don't have to follow
1:24:37
normal metaphysical processes. Yeah, there would.
1:24:42
You would benefit from having that, yeah.
1:24:45
But yeah, I don't know, like. That that was a negative.
1:24:50
Review, but like, they didn't really say a lot of terrible
1:24:52
things about it. Like it I I like the part where
1:24:56
the clown like brings in for a whisper because I mean that like
1:24:59
that's a suspenseful moment, you know, like, yeah, you expect
1:25:03
something, but it like kind of like goes against your
1:25:05
expectations. Like, yeah, I think it was
1:25:07
funny. Yeah, I don't know.
1:25:10
I But you make some good enough points there with that one.
1:25:14
OK you got anything to add? No, I.
1:25:17
I agree with OK. That's cool.
1:25:20
I agree with a lot of what that reviewer said.
1:25:22
OK, well. Then it's time for listener
1:25:25
reviews. OK, all right, got a few here.
1:25:28
So on Instagram we have mine mints.
1:25:32
Dinner says made me not want to have any toys in my room when I
1:25:36
was a kid. You know, that's fair.
1:25:40
I think every generation needs a toy.
1:25:42
Like that, like a toy movie like that.
1:25:44
Because Chucky did that for our generation.
1:25:46
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
1:25:47
Like we don't have that moment. Billy did that for this one and
1:25:49
then. Annabelle has done that and
1:25:51
yeah, yeah, we go on and on and on.
1:25:54
Over on Blue Sky we have Johnny who says first saw it while I
1:25:58
was working at Blockbuster and I really like it.
1:26:00
Creepy setting, great scares and amazing pacing for the 89 minute
1:26:04
runtime. I didn't even think about it.
1:26:06
But yeah, the 89 minute runtime will love it.
1:26:08
Fantastic it it didn't. Stretch itself out longer than
1:26:11
it needed to be. Yeah, it had.
1:26:13
Good. Pacing, I agree, I like it too
1:26:15
honestly. And yeah, I think it really does
1:26:17
have good atmosphere and setting and scarce solid or zombie says.
1:26:22
It's been a while since I saw this one.
1:26:24
The idea of the theme was pretty cool.
1:26:25
Most movies use the dark and this one uses silence, so it was
1:26:28
an interesting idea. That ending, though, it was out
1:26:31
there, you know, I like, I like that, too.
1:26:33
Yeah, you're right. Like silence is like a there
1:26:37
are. Movies.
1:26:38
That use silence and it can be annoying to me sometimes because
1:26:42
like too much silence is just like, I don't know, like we
1:26:47
watched the strangers chapter 2 last night, like you said, and a
1:26:50
lot of like the scenes and that especially the opening is just
1:26:53
like silence and then you got like a quiet.
1:27:00
What's that fucking movie? Called quiet.
1:27:02
Quiet. Place.
1:27:05
Quiet Place. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:27:06
That one I wanted it to be more. Silent.
1:27:08
Actually, yeah. But that's a movie that did use
1:27:11
silence instead of darkness, but I've never really thought about
1:27:14
that before. That's a really cool thing.
1:27:16
Yeah. Just instead of using darkness,
1:27:17
use silence. Although this movie kind of uses
1:27:19
a little bit of both and queen bean tricks just says I haven't
1:27:23
read that Goosebumps. It does look exactly like that
1:27:27
doll. Yeah.
1:27:28
What? Is that doll's name and.
1:27:29
I feel like it's Billy it. Could be Billy.
1:27:31
What? You know what?
1:27:32
Let me. Google on that a little being
1:27:34
dummy real quick. Is that the name of?
1:27:36
It Yeah. No count, Slappy.
1:27:38
Slappy. No count, Slappy.
1:27:42
Number. 5/1. Two.
1:27:47
Yeah. OK, that's it for the reviews if
1:27:50
you feel real. Froggy, you could just pump in
1:27:52
the the opening like saxophone instead of our normal Yeah or
1:28:01
just. Take that little sound bite and
1:28:04
throw it in the opening of the episode and nobody will know
1:28:06
what's happening to this part. Yeah, you have.
1:28:08
To you have to stay tuned the whole episode.
1:28:11
Yeah. OK all right.
1:28:12
Cool all. Right.
1:28:13
Well, then that's it for everything.
1:28:15
What are we doing next week, Travis?
1:28:17
What have you picked out for me? Well, I think it's really funny.
1:28:20
Earlier, how you compared this movie to another movie, you said
1:28:25
you wanted it to be like Silent Hill.
1:28:26
Because the movie I picked for next week is Silent Hill.
1:28:29
Yay. Yeah, I've always wanted to.
1:28:31
Watch it. I know a little bit about it,
1:28:33
but I have not had the full experience.
1:28:34
So I'm very I'm happy for that. I'm, I'm excited for that.
1:28:37
Too. I remember liking it a lot.
1:28:39
That was one of the ones I saw in theaters back in the day, and
1:28:41
that's the last time I saw it. So back-to-back movies like
1:28:46
that, it's gonna be a good time. I'm excited.
1:28:49
I checked it earlier. You can watch it on Pluto.
1:28:52
OK, Hopefully that'll still. Be the case in October?
1:28:54
I hope so. And you?
1:28:56
Can rent it obviously from a few places.
1:28:59
I don't know off the top of my head though.
1:29:00
But yeah, if you are wanting to watch along with us, do it, go
1:29:05
do it. Do that.
1:29:06
Shit. All right.
1:29:07
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1:30:13
Right, that does. It for movie number one of
1:30:16
October. Yay, let's get more spooky, OK?
1:30:22
OK, until next time, bye. The funeral, yeah.