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UK Column News — 2nd October 2026 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon it's friday the 2nd of october 2026 just
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  Speaker 1: after one o'clock welcome to uk column news i'm your
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  Speaker 1: host mike robinson joining me in the studio once again
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Henningsen, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: To the program, Patrick.
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  Speaker 3: It's great to be with you, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: And also we're joined by video link by Basil Valentine.
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  Speaker 1: Later in the program, we're also going to be joined
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  Speaker 1: by Dr. Ranjit Brar to discuss the latest on the
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  Speaker 1: use of the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism. We'll have a
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  Speaker 1: report on the Palantir protests that took place yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: the latest on the Fly Dubai incident. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: begin with RAF Fairford, of course, because this narrative is
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  Speaker 1: clearly a moving target. The five guys arrested at the
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  Speaker 1: time certainly don't look Iranian, Patrick.
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  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? Well, are these them up on screen?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: We'll just put that back up on screen as well.
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  Speaker 3: They're all British, right, we're told?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we're told that.
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  Speaker 3: And none of them have any tattoos, which, what are
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  Speaker 3: the odds of that? Just an observation.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Now, as Charles reported on Wednesday's program, despite the holes
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  Speaker 1: in the story, which is being put out by the
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  Speaker 1: media on Sunday and Monday, And we'll remind ourselves of
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  Speaker 1: those in a second. Marco Rubio was absolutely laying the
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  Speaker 1: blame for this incident at the door of Iran. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just remind ourselves.
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  Speaker 6: Well, let me preface by saying that I have to
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  Speaker 6: be careful. There's some things I cannot say on the
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  Speaker 6: air for a lot of different reasons. Suffice it to
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  Speaker 6: say that what happened, what almost happened, what could have
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  Speaker 6: happened in the UK over the weekend is a very
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  Speaker 6: serious situation. It's one that clearly involves the hands of
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  Speaker 6: a foreign actor. I won't get into great detail about
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  Speaker 6: that yet. I do want to thank the authorities in
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  Speaker 6: the United Kingdom who have been very cooperative. And on
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  Speaker 6: top of it, I know a lot of people are
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  Speaker 6: disturbed by the news that some of these people have
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  Speaker 6: been released on bail, as some of the people are
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  Speaker 6: being investigated. And obviously, we're engaging with them on all
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  Speaker 6: of that. But suffice it to say that beyond that,
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  Speaker 6: I would argue that they've been very cooperative and very
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  Speaker 6: helpful on something that's a very serious incident.
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  Speaker 1: So that's how Rubio was presenting it. Trump, of course,
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  Speaker 1: was saying that the people involved were being followed for ages,
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  Speaker 1: and yet the British authorities didn't seem to know anything
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  Speaker 1: about them. And then yesterday, apparently catching up with the
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  Speaker 1: story that the US wanted to impose on the public consciousness,
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  Speaker 1: this is what Andy Burnham had to say.
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  Speaker 4: There are strong indications that Iran played a part in
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  Speaker 4: what happened over the weekend at RAF Fairford. But of course,
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  Speaker 4: it remains an ongoing, complex and serious issue. police investigation.
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  Speaker 4: And of course, we are working closely with our colleagues
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  Speaker 4: in the United States of America. So it's ongoing. I
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  Speaker 4: have held a COBRA meeting as I've been here at
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  Speaker 4: the conference in Liverpool. We are on top of it
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  Speaker 4: in every possible way imaginable. Police in Gloucestershire, our counterterrorism
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  Speaker 4: police have done an outstanding job. I thank them for that.
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  Speaker 4: We will say more in due course, but we can
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  Speaker 4: confirm our belief that that we believe Iran to have
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  Speaker 4: played a part.
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  Speaker 1: So he believes that he believes that Iran has played
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  Speaker 1: a part. But anyway, the question is, where did Rubio
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  Speaker 1: and now Burnham get this idea that Iran was intending
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  Speaker 1: to carry out some kind of attack on RAF Fairford?
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  Speaker 1: Let's just have a listen to this.
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  Speaker 7: You talked about this thing in Britain. You want to
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  Speaker 7: hear how absurd things are there and how far the
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  Speaker 7: anti-Israel propaganda has gone. We gave the Brits the intel
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  Speaker 7: that there was going to be an attack, and it's
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  Speaker 7: an Iranian-sponsored attack. And pretty much the next day they
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  Speaker 7: slapped sanctions on us.
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  Speaker 2: On us.
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  Speaker 5: You know, so it's wild.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, the caving in, the collapse before the Islamist-Marxist
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  Speaker 7: alliance is very dangerous for the future of the West.
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  Speaker 3: Where would we be without Netanyahu holding the gates of
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  Speaker 3: Vienna for us?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: So Netanyahu, they're absolutely admitting his role and Israel's role
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  Speaker 1: in setting up this narrative. And there's no doubt, I
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  Speaker 1: think in my mind, I don't know what your thoughts are,
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  Speaker 1: but there's no doubt in my mind that this is
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  Speaker 1: some kind of false flag.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's where all reliable intelligence normally originates, Mike, from Israel.
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  Speaker 3: What could possibly go wrong? And I think that's where
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  Speaker 3: Trump and Rubio probably got their intelligence as well. That's
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  Speaker 3: what we're our best allies. Sort of plausible guess at
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  Speaker 3: this point. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, the story is full of holes, as we'll
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  Speaker 1: see in a second. Now, the Iranian foreign minister put
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  Speaker 1: out this pretty sarcastic remark on X following Burnham's comment
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  Speaker 1: saying that Burnham says the UK government can confirm our
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  Speaker 1: belief that we believe Iran to have played a part
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  Speaker 1: in the RAF Fairford incident. And he went on to say,
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  Speaker 1: I can confirm Iran's belief that releasing supposed terrorists working
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  Speaker 1: for foreign states really says it all. you're barking up
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  Speaker 1: the wrong tree. And well, surprise, surprise, another arrest. Will
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  Speaker 1: this one get out on bail as well? So let's
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  Speaker 1: bring this on. This is the terrorism police statement saying,
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  Speaker 1: the counterterrorism policing has this afternoon, that's yesterday afternoon, made
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  Speaker 1: a further arrest in the investigation into activity that took
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  Speaker 1: place close to RAF Fairford on Sunday. A 25-year-old man,
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  Speaker 1: a dual UK Iranian national, was arrested in the borough
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  Speaker 1: of Westminster, London, on suspicion of preparation of terrorist acts.
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  Speaker 1: Under Section 5 of the Terrorism Act 2006, searches of
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  Speaker 1: two properties have also been.
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  Speaker 5: Carried out in the area.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if you look closely there, you'll see, just put
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  Speaker 1: it back on William a second, please. If you look
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  Speaker 1: closely there, you'll see an asterisk at the end of
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  Speaker 1: Terrorism Act 2006, because they had to go on to
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  Speaker 1: say that the age originally published at 1730 hours was
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  Speaker 1: a 27-year-old. This is not correct.
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  Speaker 5: He's a 25-year-old.
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  Speaker 1: We've published information that a second man has been questioned
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  Speaker 1: under caution, which is not correct. and has been removed,
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  Speaker 1: and they say apologies for any inconvenience. So they don't
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  Speaker 1: seem to be able to get their story straight here.
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  Speaker 1: It is quite incredible. But I just wanted to look
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  Speaker 1: at the unanswered questions here. So let's have a look
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  Speaker 1: at this. The first one is, why did one of
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  Speaker 1: the suspects call 999? The BBC is reporting that he
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  Speaker 1: called 999 at, this is one of the five that
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  Speaker 1: were originally arrested. He called 999 at 45 minutes past
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  Speaker 1: midnight on the Sunday. almost an hour before the local
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  Speaker 1: farmer contacted the police. And it remains unclear why he
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  Speaker 1: called or what he said. And so that's an unanswered question.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look at the next one. What were they actually
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  Speaker 1: planning to do? So if three vans carried fuel but
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  Speaker 1: no bombs, what were they allegedly preparing to do? Was
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  Speaker 1: the petrol a weapon? A cover story? Was it ordinary
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  Speaker 1: fuel that was just being moved from one place to another?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows. hasn't been answered. The original arrest wards were
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  Speaker 1: under the Explosives Act. And then next, was this intelligence-led
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  Speaker 1: or a chance discovery? Well, of course, Trump said on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday that the suspects had been under view for some time.
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  Speaker 1: That suggests some kind of intelligence operation. And then you've
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  Speaker 1: heard what Netanyahu said a couple of seconds ago. Both
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  Speaker 1: statements clash with the counterterrorism policing account at the time
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  Speaker 1: that a member of the public raised the alarm. So,
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  Speaker 1: and the police wording has also moved. So they're now
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  Speaker 1: talking about a range of information received. Whereas earlier, the
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  Speaker 1: statements were just about the farmer's tip off. So then
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  Speaker 1: the next question, why was the base already on high alert?
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  Speaker 1: Open source accounts are suggesting that Fairford moved to FPCON Delta,
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  Speaker 1: which apparently is the highest US force protection level. And
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  Speaker 1: that happened at 8 45 PM on the Friday. And
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  Speaker 1: if that is the case, then what triggered that was
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  Speaker 1: that because of the information that Netanyahu gave. But this
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  Speaker 1: is very strange because the question then is why was
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  Speaker 1: the alert only initiated 24 hours before the event? Because
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  Speaker 1: Netanyahu claimed that you heard it in the video that
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  Speaker 1: he gave intelligence to the UK the day before Miliband's
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  Speaker 1: sanction speech and Miliband's sanction speech was the 8th of September.
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  Speaker 1: So none of this adds up. And so why was
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  Speaker 1: the base not on high alert since the 9th of September?
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  Speaker 1: And then the next one, why did nobody answer the
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  Speaker 1: call to the base? Because the farmer said she got
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  Speaker 1: no answer when she called the Ministry of Defence Police
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  Speaker 1: at RAF Fairford. And then she rang 999 at 1.36am.
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  Speaker 1: The base was allegedly at maximum alert since the Friday.
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  Speaker 1: So why was there nobody taking calls at that point?
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  Speaker 1: The next one, how many people were there actually? because
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  Speaker 1: the farmer said she saw as many as 10 people,
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  Speaker 1: but of course only five arrests were made. And so
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  Speaker 1: we have to ask, are there some people still accounted for?
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  Speaker 1: Why have the police not made any statement about that?
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  Speaker 1: Why is there not any kind of alert to ask
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  Speaker 1: for people to help with that? It's very, very strange.
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  Speaker 1: Then we have, were the vans parked or were they moving?
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  Speaker 1: The police said the first call concerned three suspicious vehicles
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  Speaker 1: that appeared to be traveling towards the base, but the
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  Speaker 1: farmer in her opinion A statement said that it was
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  Speaker 1: a really strange formation parked in the village. So which
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  Speaker 1: was it? How long were they there? Who owned the vans? Well,
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  Speaker 1: one of the vans we saw from the video had
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  Speaker 1: Fuel2U logo on the side and a phone number. And
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  Speaker 1: that phone number led to some kind of automated message.
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  Speaker 1: But nobody knows who this organization is and who registered
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  Speaker 1: the vehicles and so on. Then next question. Sorry, who
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  Speaker 1: owned the vans? Why bail after 36 hours if that
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  Speaker 1: was a state-linked plot? Of course, everybody's asking this question.
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  Speaker 1: Detention without charge can be extended for up to 14 days.
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  Speaker 1: And this was the point that Charles was trying to
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  Speaker 1: make on Wednesday's program. The police acknowledged the decision is
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  Speaker 1: going to surprise many. But of course, now we've got
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  Speaker 1: Burnham saying that the situation is linked to Iran. And
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  Speaker 1: my question then is, well, Why are these guys still
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  Speaker 1: out on bail if this is absolutely definitively or they
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  Speaker 1: believe that it's linked to Iran? It's all very, very strange.
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  Speaker 1: And then next of all, what have we got? Well,
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  Speaker 1: what is the basis for this Iran claim? We actually
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  Speaker 1: don't know what that is. So after that, how does
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  Speaker 1: the sixth man connect to these five other guys? This
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  Speaker 1: is the guy that's been arrested yesterday. We've no idea
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  Speaker 1: what relationship this guy has to the other five.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe nothing. Well, he's Iranian, so I guess he was
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  Speaker 3: arrested for being on the radar or Iranian dual national.
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  Speaker 3: And so he's connected to the allegations, but not necessarily
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  Speaker 3: the operation.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So many, many questions about that. Was he a handler?
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  Speaker 1: Was he financing the thing? Is there something else? We
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  Speaker 1: don't know any of this yet.
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  Speaker 3: They just pick somebody up. just to look busy, basically. Again,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense. If that was a serious suspect
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  Speaker 3: connected to this event, why are they out on bail?
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  Speaker 3: It certainly does not add up.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, we'll just ask again the question of
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  Speaker 1: who are the five? What was their background? They don't
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  Speaker 1: look like your traditional Islamic terrorist grouping. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: something else going on there.
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  Speaker 3: No tattoos, young men. early to mid, possibly late 20s,
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  Speaker 3: a military-style haircut, one could guess, at least for two
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  Speaker 3: of them visible in the original photo. So were we
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  Speaker 3: looking at a possible rehearsal of a drill or, dare
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  Speaker 3: I say, an event beforehand? Because on 7-7, we had
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  Speaker 3: similar rehearsals that were done prior to the event itself.
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  Speaker 3: So we're just asking these questions because our questions seem
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  Speaker 3: to be a lot more educated than what the mainstream
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  Speaker 3: media are asking right now. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And next of all, finally, then, we have why was
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  Speaker 1: the US and UK messaging so out of step? This
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  Speaker 1: is the strangest bit about it. Well, actually, there's one more,
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  Speaker 1: but this is a very strange part of it because,
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  Speaker 1: of course, as we've mentioned, Washington was talking about foreign
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  Speaker 1: involvement from the beginning. Trump was saying we would not
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  Speaker 1: have released them, all these kinds of comments. And it
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  Speaker 1: was almost like the UK was behind. We're suddenly playing
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  Speaker 1: catch up, but the damage has been done to this story.
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  Speaker 1: But the final one that I want to mention that
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  Speaker 1: isn't on the list on my graphic there is what
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  Speaker 1: was the delay between, let's just say the farmer's report
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  Speaker 1: at a quarter to two in the morning, what was
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  Speaker 1: the delay from that point? We then had immediately reports
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  Speaker 1: in the media that this was a serious incident. And
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  Speaker 1: yet there was no evacuation done of the people in
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  Speaker 1: the village until 7 a.m. So what was the delay?
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  Speaker 1: They thought this was an explosive incident, but they didn't
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  Speaker 1: move anybody out of their beds until 7 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: What's that about? The only conclusion one can make, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: is that it wasn't taken seriously as an explosive event.
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  Speaker 3: But when the alarm clock rang in the morning, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people realized they needed to do something now.
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  Speaker 3: to make this look a lot more serious and to
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  Speaker 3: react to the press and so forth. So that's my
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  Speaker 3: reading of it.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, I don't know, Patrick, what your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: are on, you know, whether this was an incident that
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  Speaker 1: went wrong, somebody saw something that they weren't supposed to see,
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  Speaker 1: and following that, the British authorities are trying to come
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  Speaker 1: up with some credible narrative to explain it away or what,
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  Speaker 1: but the The narrative clearly has fallen apart and their bullets.
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  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, they're still trying to double down
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  Speaker 1: on building a case against Iran.
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  Speaker 5: It's quite incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Well, clearly, Donald Trump and Rubio jumped the gun. Netanyahu,
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  Speaker 3: of course, also jumped the gun. So there could be, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: that there was a lack of coordination between these three
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  Speaker 3: parties and maybe something else was meant to happen, which
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  Speaker 3: didn't happen. but because of the poor communication and the
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  Speaker 3: ramshackle nature of the Trump administration and getting their signals
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  Speaker 3: crossed with a very chaotic Israel. Let's be clear. Israel's
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  Speaker 3: got a lot on its plate right now, including similar
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  Speaker 3: terror events, which we'll cover later in the program. But
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  Speaker 3: could this have just fallen apart at the last minute?
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  Speaker 3: We don't know. We're asking these questions.
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  Speaker 1: But the mainstream media doesn't seem to be asking these questions,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's the important point.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the tabloids came straight out, Mike, with the story,
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  Speaker 3: which is Iran terror plot foiled by brave Met police
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. So that's what came and that's what penetrated
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  Speaker 3: the public consciousness in the immediate aftermath of the event.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what matters in terms of the government and
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  Speaker 3: the state and the bigger mission. I think Basil wants
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  Speaker 3: to weigh in on this. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: Well, the question that the feeble minded corporate media never
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  Speaker 8: asks is what possible motivation would a state actor like
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  Speaker 8: Iran have for doing this? When the Iranian foreign minister
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  Speaker 8: met Ed Miliband on the margins of the UK General
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  Speaker 8: Assembly last week, you know, that represented a significant contribution.
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  Speaker 8: diplomatic shift in favor of detente. And it was roundly
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  Speaker 8: criticized by both the Americans and the Israelis, of course.
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  Speaker 5: But nobody ever seems to ask that question.
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  Speaker 8: And also, what exactly are the lines of communication supposed
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  Speaker 8: to be between Iran and these actors?
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  Speaker 5: What instructions were they given? By who? And crucially, why?
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  Speaker 3: And oh, yeah, just quickly. Great points made by Basil.
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  Speaker 3: But the political context, Burnham's coming under political pressure about
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  Speaker 3: the use of British bases to bomb Iran. So that
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  Speaker 3: is also very, very significant because you can't discount that
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  Speaker 3: from this conversation. All of a sudden, now we have
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  Speaker 3: maximum security alert around this particular base and other bases around.
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  Speaker 3: And the press will not be allowed to get near
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  Speaker 3: them to photograph the B-1 bombers, all these things that
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  Speaker 3: happened before. can't happen now, I think that is an
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  Speaker 3: important takeaway from this.
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  Speaker 5: Yes. Brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move on. Patrick, let's move on to the issue
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  Speaker 1: of the IHRA and anti-Semitism.
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  Speaker 3: Sure. Well, UK column viewers will be very aware of
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  Speaker 3: this story here. Professor David Miller wins his employment appeal tribunal.
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  Speaker 3: This was historic. A major precedent was set here, albeit
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  Speaker 3: in academia. Now, we have a very similar case but
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  Speaker 3: potentially much bigger in terms of the institutions that we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about here. And this is our next guest who
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  Speaker 3: we'll bring on in a minute. But before we do that,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to bring up his crowdfunding, crowd justice page here.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll show this at the end as well and
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  Speaker 3: put a link in the show description. Legal challenge against
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  Speaker 3: the IHRAs. free speech restrictions on Israel. This is a
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  Speaker 3: legal crowdfunding site, similar to other people that we've had
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  Speaker 3: guests on the show. So a judicial review has been
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  Speaker 3: filed here in the high court versus King's College Hospital,
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  Speaker 3: NHS Foundation Trust, challenging the IHRA definition on antisemitism under
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  Speaker 3: the guise of a breach of the right of freedom
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  Speaker 3: of expression. And this is citing Article 10 of the
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  Speaker 3: European Convention on Human Rights. And our next guest we're
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  Speaker 3: going to bring on to the program now is Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Ranjit Brar. He is a NHS vascular surgeon, and he
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  Speaker 3: is the subject of this case. Welcome to the program, Ranjit.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Familiar, just give us a brief synopsis here of How
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  Speaker 3: this started. I was shocked reading about your case, Ranjit,
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  Speaker 3: that this possibly was triggered by something not directly related
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  Speaker 3: to Israel, but to Iran. If you could just tell
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  Speaker 3: us very briefly, and then I have a few other
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  Speaker 3: questions for you, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks, Patrick.
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: Well, it kind of has an overlap with the last
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: topic you were discussing. It absolutely is about managing the conflict.
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: Britain is an undeclared state of war, to my understanding,
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: not just with Iran and missions being flown from RAF Fairford,
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: but across the Middle East. We're integrally involved in the
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: genocide unfolding in Palestine and in Gaza. And of course,
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: we're at war with Russia, escalating war with Russia. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: whilst the last prime minister of was fully bought in
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: and central pillar in that. The current one that has
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: been brought in to do the same job needs shoring up.
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: And I think a lot of what we're seeing is
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: to do with that. The IHRA definition impinges upon this.
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: So the actual reason I came into this latest series
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: of trouble was I made a speech. So I'm a
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: political activist as well as a surgeon. I'm a vascular surgeon.
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: My results, my work is excellent, second to none. And
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: I take that work and that job very seriously. It's
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: a great privilege to be able to treat and cure
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: and help people at their time of distress. I'm also
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: a political activist and I spoke at the time of
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: the beginning of the 40-day war against that war and
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: particularly against the the bombing of a school in Manab
• 19:32
  Speaker 9: in which 168 children were massacred by double or triple
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: type missile strike and we've seen the footage of that
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: so it was not an accident the CIA the Mossad
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: the contending parties where the intelligence the military intelligence were
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: fully aware of what they were striking so it was
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: a deliberate attack and actually a threat to the IRGC.
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: Link coming in to say, if you don't submit, if
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: you don't open your country, if you don't collaborate, we
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: will kill your children. And it was in fact the
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: children of the IRGC who were targeted in that strike.
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: So I was speaking against that. I also spoke out
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: against the role of the Labour Party, which is considered
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: by some in our country to be a socialist party,
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: but runs these wars whether it's Iraq and Afghanistan, whether
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: it's currently the genocide in Palestine and Iran, and allow,
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: they talk about defensive strikes from RF Fairford, but they
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: allow these very aggressive strikes, you know, strikes targeting schools, hospitals,
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: and the infrastructure, civilian infrastructure of sovereign countries from our country.
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: So I spoke against that. And during that, I called
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: out the genocide and I called out Israel's role. And
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: I said, look, any country committing a genocide, a settler,
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: colonial apartheid state, committing a genocide doesn't have the right
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: to exist. And that means Israel in its current state
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: doesn't have the right to exist. Now look, that's equating
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: really the position of Israel as being untenable like that
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: of South Africa during the period of apartheid. It means
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: that state must end, a democratic secular state must come
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: into being. But this contravenes the IHRA definition of antisemitism.
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: It's something that not everyone's aware of, but it was
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: adopted in 2016 by Theresa.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: May for the whole country.
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: And it was gradually pushed on all the political parties,
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: including Labour Party, And whilst it has a kind of
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: anodyne definition that just names anti-Semitism, it has these very
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: insidious examples, 11 examples, seven of which refer specifically to
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: the state of Israel. So if you criticize Israel, Israel's conducts,
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: their genocide, their war, their apartheid system, their inequality, their racism,
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: you can be labeled using this definition an anti-Semite. If
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: you're an anti-Semite, you're a racist. If you're a racist,
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: you're bringing the profession into disrepute. If you're bringing the
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: profession into disrepute, you're going to have formal action taken
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: at you at your workplace and by the GMC, the regulator.
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: And that's essentially what's been done to me. So complaints
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: were made by UK lawyers for Israel, a very pro-partisan
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: group who are pro-genocide, very racist group, actually, racist group
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: who advocate and really attack any expression of pro-Palestine or
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: anti-Israel speech throughout our country.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: They weaponized.
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: some online Zionist media, and we've seen that the Zionist
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: groups work hand in glove with the police to criminalize
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: activists also. So this whole mechanism, they have a legal mechanism,
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: and they use that to suspend me temporarily from work.
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: And after a long investigation, they exonerate me for any wrongdoing.
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: But they said in order to return to work, they
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: would impose restrictions upon me. And those restrictions included not
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: being able to speak without first passing my remarks. So
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: writing down any speech I wanted to make, any article
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: I wanted to write, sending it to my hospital trust
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: chief executive and communications department, and they would act as
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: my censor. And it's that which is the illegal use
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: of this non-legally binding definition, which I'm seeking to challenge
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: in this court case.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: And what's interesting is within the NHS, there's a disparity
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: regarding what criticisms allowed. For instance, you're allowed to criticize Islam,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: its culture, its history, but no such protections are afforded
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: to anybody criticizing Islam. the state of Israel, as you've discussed.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: But this kind of came in, and if you could
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: just answer this briefly, because we're paying attention to time,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: but Ranji, this kind of has come in by fiat,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: hasn't it? Within the institution of the NHS, kind of
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: an indirect enforcement. It's not very clear cut, is it?
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: How it's enforced and where the bylaws exist.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: It's a non-legally binding definition, but it's been adopted by
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: the governance. In fact, there's a document, the 2030 Roadmap
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: to UK-Israeli Relations. It's worth looking at. It's a policy document,
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: and it says that we will, as a country, Britain,
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: integrate this definition into all of our services at a
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: very high level. So it's been adopted by all the
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: police forces, been adopted by schools, colleges, universities, and now
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: it's being pushed onto the NHS. Wes Streeting has been
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: instrumental in that. Wes Streeting is now our Minister for War,
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: Minister for the Armed Forces. He was previously a longstanding
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: Minister of Health And he's intimately connected to the Zionist lobby.
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: He's got a huge amount of funding directly from Trevor
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: Chin and other prominent Zionists. And he's been pressured to
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: push it on the NHS because of the way they're
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: privatizing the NHS. The NHS government runs something called NHS England.
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: And then all of the trusts are independent businesses and
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: they're under pressure to adopt it. And they should really
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: run consultations with their patients and staff groups before adopting it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: But they don't do that. So it's been unclear which
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: ones have and haven't. You have to do freedom of
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: information requests. They're very cagey about the whole process of adoption,
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: but essentially it is being adopted. And there's a man review.
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: So Lord John Mann, another prominent Zionist friend of West
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: Street and deeply connected to the Labour Party, who has
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: conducted a review, basically lamenting a rise of so-called anti-Semitism
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: within the country, within the NHS, and saying it's important
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: that we push this tool to the centre of governance
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: and make it easier to strike off doctors at the
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: GMC and to discipline people at work, even for, say,
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: wearing a small Palestine pin. If they were to wear
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: this badge with Palestine flag, that would be an anti-Semitic act.
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: According to Lord John Mann's review, they would use the
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: IHRA definition to get these people disbarred from work. So
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: it's an extremely aggressive governance framework, essentially standing with Israel,
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: standing with the wars and prohibiting solidarity with Palestine.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: What's interesting is the original author of the IHRA definition
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: in 2005, Ken Stern, has actually condemned the weaponization and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the elasticity of how it's being applied, the IHRA definition.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: But just finally, Ranji, have you received a lot of
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: support from your fellow health care workers, professional colleagues? Or
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: is this still a very, very touchy subject for people
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to express their views publicly? How do you feel your
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: support level is out there within your profession and in
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the general public?
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: Thanks.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: The support is extremely strong.
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: Many of my colleagues, many people in the public do
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: support this strongly as they support the Palestinian cause and
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: are against the genocide. But of course, what we're dealing
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: with is... It's a regime that's seeking to penalize people
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: who speak out publicly.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: That is the aim.
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: It is a lawfare campaign, a strategic lawfare against public participation.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: So the intent is to chill free speech. That's why
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: it's so important that we must actually get it legally
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: challenged and removed from our governance framework.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Dr. Ranjit Brar. And again, bring it up on screen here.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: This is one of the better articles I've seen. We'll
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: put this up on screen. That's the Minab School. But also, again,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: there's the memorial there. That's what he was giving his
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: original speech. But this is the crowdfunding page here, the
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: legal challenge against the IHRA's free speech restriction on Israel.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: No matter what your political disposition is, this is something
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: that affects everybody in society and will do in perpetuity.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Very important, just like David Miller's case. extremely important. People
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: understand the precedent that's involved here. But Dr. Ranjit Brar,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us on the UK
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Column News this week. Again, a link will be to
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: your crowdfunding page in the show description. We really appreciate
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: also for you standing up on this important free speech issue.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Ranjit. Thanks, Patrick. Okay, let's move on.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Basil, let me welcome you back to the program now. And, uh, uh, let's, uh, yes. And, uh,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Talk to us about Palantir and the campaigns or the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: protests that have been happening yesterday.
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: Well, it's been a very busy week for our friends
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: at Palantir. It started very badly and it's only got
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: worse since. First of all, Peter Thiel himself, the head
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: honcho at Palantir, a man obsessed with the Antichrist, he
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: made an extraordinary statement, which has been doing the rounds
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: on social media.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: As we can hear now.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: If you're evil, you're at least competent.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: If you're evil, you're not bad.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Therefore, maybe you're actually kind of good, because you're at
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: least getting something done.
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: This really indicates, as I mentioned in my speech at
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: the 20th anniversary event, the bizarre moral inversion that these
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: tech bros have. According to Thiel's logic, if you kill somebody, well,
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: at least you managed to do something. At least you
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: managed to kill someone. It might be evil, but it's
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: not bad, because you're only bad at something if you're incompetent.
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: Really bizarro stuff, but it doesn't stop Palantir's relentless march
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: into the heart of the UK government. And it seems
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: they managed to get this Labour Party motion to cancel
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: Palantir contracts in kicked out of the Labour Party conference
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: in Liverpool this week. Constituency parties had got together to
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: promote a motion put forward by the Labour-affiliated Socialist Health
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: Association and three other constituency parties. It said Palantir is
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: facing numerous allegations of involvement in serious breaches of human rights,
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: including due to developing technology for Israel's military to use
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: in its unlawful occupation of Palestine.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: And its genocide in Gaza. The motion went on.
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: Labour government has a responsibility to uphold public trust in politics. Unfortunately,
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: Labour is riddled with Palantir apologists and supporters. Another one
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: was revealed today in The Guardian. But chief amongst them
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: is the Labour peer, former deputy leader of the Labour Party,
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: Tom Watson, who is now senior vice president at Palantir,
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: paid a hefty whack, no doubt, and he's been paid
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: a hefty whack for 16 months of voting as well.
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: He's continued to sit in the House of Lords. The
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: Scottish Greens want him kicked out of the House of Lords,
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: and quite understandably, because he's recorded votes on three crucial
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: areas of policy, which are directly in Palantir's sphere of operations,
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: 30 votes on the crime and policing bill, eight on
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: border security, asylum and immigration, and five on data use
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: and access. He's actually been on Palantir's payroll since November
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: 2024 on their public services advisory board. And before that,
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: he was on Lodestone as board, a lobbying firm that
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: Palantir had hired.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Now, the £ 330 million pound.
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: Contract with the NHS, arguably the most controversial of all
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: Palantir's contracts.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: With the UK government, has this break clause in February.
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: And it seems Watson was appointed to fight what is
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: described as the left-wing campaign. I thought that was a
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: rather interesting characterisation. If you don't want your data, your
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: health records to be in the hands of a company
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: busy organizing genocide than your left wing.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Apparently um and uh.
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: According to the House of Lords, he hasn't broken any
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: rules because peers can vote on anything while on a payroll,
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: so long as the payment is on the register. But
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: now he's taking a leave of absence from the House
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: of Lords, but not actually stepping down. Now, all this
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: kicked off a huge spat between Watson and the most
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: vocal MP in the House of Commons, in opposition to Palantir,
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: Clive Lewis, also Labour, of course. And Watson has written
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: to Clive Lewis, pointing out that they're watching him. And
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: this was highlighted in a fringe meeting at the Labour
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: Party conference, and also after Lewis wrote in The Guardian.
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: He warned Lewis that it's been surveilling his anti-Palantir activities.
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: He read out the warning, did Lewis, at a fringe
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: event at the Labour Party conference organised by the tech
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: non-profit The Citizen, described it as an implicit threat to
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: his activities as an MP. In the letter, Watson detailed
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: Lewis's interventions on Palantir, writing, By my count, you've spoken
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: about Palantir almost 130 times since 2020. and around 50
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: in the last year alone. Now, not surprisingly, Lewis shot back,
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: I was actually rather impressed by that, he said, before
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: continuing to read the letter out loud at this meeting.
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: You have called us a spy tech firm, said Watson,
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: and said our business is.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Death and destruction.
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: Well, I think if you're helping to run the software
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: for genocide, then I think that's fair enough. And of course,
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: Heiko Kuh, a previous guest on the program, pointed out
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: how the chaos caused by Israeli airstrikes was being remodeled
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: for potential mass casualty events in the UK, perhaps as
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: a result of events like whatever didn't happen at RAF
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: Fairford or whatever else is being threatened at the moment.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: Not surprisingly, of course, Lewis has urged, as have increasing
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: numbers of people, for the ties with Palantir to be
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: permanently severed. They're saying, we're watching you. We are monitoring you.
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: That's what we do. Your card is marked. Watson's argument
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: that he's taken a leave of absence, Lewis says, is
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: a smokescreen. He hasn't burnt his contacts book. He understands
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: how the system works and where the virus... Bodies aren't buried.
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: Palantir aren't the good guys. I think it's really important
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: to pick a side. Honestly, it feels very Big Brother,
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: he went on. We're watching you. We know what you're saying.
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: It's definitely a sense of power there. This is what
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: you are up against. If I ever needed a reason
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: to fight hard for democracy, they've just given it to me.
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: But it's pretty concerning because they have access to my
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: health records. What else do they have access to and
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: how could they use it? Well, this spat, believe it
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: or not, and the public pressure around it has actually
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: finally prompted Andy Burnham to act. The Financial Times this
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: morning reporting that Burnham is indeed searching for a UK
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: alternative to Palantir. The Prime Minister's big bye British push,
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: which he championed in his speech to the conference this week,
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: has triggered a hunt to find a replacement for the
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: controversial US tech group.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Awarded health service and defense contracts.
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: It'll be very interesting to see whether Burnham caves to
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: the shadow government, to the deep state, to the tech bros.
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: And this contract in February is renewed. But crucially, the
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: pressure on the streets is unbelievable. There were more than
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: 40 demonstrations yesterday in the UK and around the world.
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: And we've got some brief clips now which give a
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: sense of the strength of feeling against Palantir up and
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: down the country. So that was outside Palantir's headquarters in
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: Soho Square, no doubt, friend of the show. Heiko Kuh
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: was there. Let's see the next scenes from yesterday's demonstrations.
• 36:38
  Speaker 10: We're here outside Palantir's London headquarters. This is one of
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: more than 40 protests happening today, calling on the government
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: to kick Palantir out of our NHS. Palantir is supplying
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: the Israeli military with technology that it's using to commit
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: genocide and impose apartheid against Palestinians.
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: A very clear message there from one of the campaign organizers.
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: And you would think that if you weren't especially anti-Palantir,
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: then most people would probably choose to be neutral or
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: not have any opinion whatsoever. But believe it or not,
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: there were people counter-demonstrating in support of Palantir yesterday, as
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: we can see now.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Why are you here outside of Palantir's headquarters?
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Are you guys here for.
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: Palantir as well?
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: I'm here because they are here protesting here.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: If they leave, I'm going to leave.
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: Are you guys here more as a counter-protest to them
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: than to defend Palantir?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: The NHS should be apolitical.
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: In Israel, there's much more tolerance.
• 37:44
  Speaker 12: You wouldn't have this when it comes to the medical.
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: There's much more tolerance. You wouldn't have this when it
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: comes to the medical. And later in that clip, there's
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: an Indian woman there who simply asked why she was there.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: And she said to support Israel. I think he's got.
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: To be a really unusual kind of person to go
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: out on a Thursday afternoon and protest in favor of Palantir.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I thought that was a Greek flag around his shoulders. Anyway,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I stand corrected.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: But look, let's stick with Israel for a little bit.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: And the question is, who is the hero that stopped
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Israel's 9-11, Patrick?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I will answer that in a moment, but I believe
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: we still have Ranji on the line. Ranji, do you
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: have a comment on this?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah. Palantir, extremely sinister.
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: We know already that they have totally breached the Caldecott
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: principles of data guardianship. when they were starting to work
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: on the whole of the access to the NHS records. Now,
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: that's basically every person who live in the entire country.
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: So they've got the health data of everyone in the country.
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: It's meant to be anonymized when it's handled by their
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: high-level operatives. But actually, we know now that it's not
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: been anonymized. It's a total breach of data regulation. They
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: have all of our data, all of our medical data
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: of every citizen in Britain. They've got contracts with the police,
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: which means that people who might be wanted for criminal actions,
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: they're starting to put out something called like a panopticon,
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: a facial recognition tool outside stations. They're seeing people come
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: and go. They're recognizing you by your face, and they're
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: marrying that up with all kinds of data that have
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: access to military data, police data, now NHS data. And
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: then they've closed down my local police station, but they
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: assembled 60 policemen in the street. And then when this
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: system run by Palantir recognises you, they send off a
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: little bevy of policemen, six or seven of them, run
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: after people, stopping them, pinning them down in the street
• 39:37
  Speaker 9: and arresting them. And I don't know what for.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Something's very minor infringement.
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: So this kind of turned towards a surveillance society. Not
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: only their connection with the genocide in Palestine, their connection
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: with ICE enforcement in the United States, but the way
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: that's being used, the way our data is being used
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: against the citizenry of Britain. It's deeply sinister and deeply worrying,
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: not just to the health sector, but to all of us.
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: So I think it's a very important topic. I'm glad
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: you're covering it, Patrick.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Thank you to Dr. Ranjit and also to Bowser Valentine
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: for that excellent report. More on Palantir. We've got a
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: lot more ground to cover on them. But let's go
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: to the latest. What they're calling here is Israel's 9-11.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: But here's how the Telegraph, of course, they couldn't resist.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: The hero who stopped Israel's 9-11. So it's not me.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Saying that is our esteemed telegraph. So there's Netanyahu congratulating
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: this just, I don't know, a member of the public
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: who grabbed the steering of the plane and leveled it out.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, really out of Hollywood. It's a great, great
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: plot for a great thriller. But here, let's look very
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: briefly here at this fly Dubai incident. We'll bring this up.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: on screen right now. So they're calling it Israel's 9-11. Well,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: what exactly happened here? So there it is. That is
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: a 737 MAX 8. And there's Netanyahu. And there's some
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: absolutely incredible claims here. Let's take a look at some
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: of them. Netanyahu's warning of an Iran terror attack just
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: days before. So you could say that's a coincidence. Maybe,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: maybe not. And also then Iran also was warning about
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: an Israeli false flag involving a flight earlier in the
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: week as well. So competing intelligence warnings there, I would say.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: And so the let's roll, I mean, Flight 93, 9-11,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: it's a let's roll redux. In other words, a gallant
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: move by passengers to save this flight. Of course, that
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: didn't happen on Flight 93 in terms of the result
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: was different. We won't get into the weeds on that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: But so this is a kind of let's roll kind
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: of 9-11 narrative here. Now, it all went down in
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: just 29 seconds. And as much as it pains me, Mike,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: to point this out, we're relying on CNN to debunk
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: this 29 seconds, it all happened in 29 seconds. The
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: plane went into a nosedive, it leveled out, the passenger
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: stormed the cockpit, a knife fight, all of this happened
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: in just 29 seconds, we're led to believe. But don't
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: trust me, let's hear what CNN and a flight simulator
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: expert has to say about it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so, okay.
• 42:18
  Speaker 12: Just to even imagine what that's like. I know there
• 42:20
  Speaker 12: were some people, they said they were sort of standing
• 42:22
  Speaker 12: by the bathroom, right? They would have fallen immediately. I mean, frankly,
• 42:25
  Speaker 12: it's miraculous with something like that, that people didn't get
• 42:28
  Speaker 12: more seriously injured or die. That's correct.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: So some of the numbers that we're seeing from.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: The reporting initially are.
• 42:37
  Speaker 12: they don't make sense to me because if you're descending
• 42:39
  Speaker 12: that rapidly, the aircraft would have disintegrated completely.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: So the numbers will change when we get the preliminary report.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's interesting.
• 42:47
  Speaker 12: I mean, as you point out, those are only the
• 42:48
  Speaker 12: numbers that we have right now. But interesting that you
• 42:50
  Speaker 12: said that that could have caused it to break apart
• 42:53
  Speaker 12: and that maybe some of those are a little higher
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: than actually happened. We do know there was damage on
• 42:57
  Speaker 12: the rudder, right, from whatever the speeds actually will turn
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: out to be. And portions of it apparently tore away
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: during flight. Now, obviously, with serious damage to the rudder,
• 43:05
  Speaker 12: a plane's going to crash.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's an understatement. The plane would have broken
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: up with damage to the rudder. So, Mike, there's no
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: video evidence that we've seen about the nosedive from within
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: the plane, of course, and also the rushing of the cockpit.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: There's one weak video. It looks like they're queuing up
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: for the toilet. It's not a lot of action there.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: We won't show you that right now. But the other
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: thing pointed out here by this American lady, her name
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: is Marjorie Taylor Greene. And she said, well, during that
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: sort of steep descent, the oxygen masks automatically pop down,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: don't they? But that actually didn't happen on this flight either.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: So we'll go back to our checklist here. And just
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: looking at the anomalies as well, back to our list here.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: So no oxygen masks. That's odd. So how was an
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Omani pilot? allowed on an Israeli flight because Omani pilots
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: are banned from entering or Omani's entering Israel. So how
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: did he, how was he allowed to pass security? So
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: was he put on at the last minute? These are
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: the questions I would have as an investigator, because I'm
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: very skeptical of the official story, but back to the
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: list here. And so again, no Iranians on the flight.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: So this is, according to Israel, an Iranian terrorist attack.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: There's no Iranians involved that we can see. And the
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Omani pilot, that's a big question mark there. So Netanyahu's
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: original claim was this was an attempted suicide by the pilot.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Then he quickly revised that later to a hijacking. So
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: a little confusion there from Bibi. And just finally, we
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: have to just state the obvious. Bibi is tanking in
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: the polls, Israeli elections in the next two weeks. So
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Do all these things raise questions? Certainly they do. Now,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: just so people are, you know, rest assured, Israel is
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: interrogating the Omani pilot in Israel right now. I can't
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: imagine they'd extract a confession from them, Mike. No, they've
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: got no form for that kind of thing. No history
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: of beating people, extracting confessions. So as has been reported
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: with alleged Hamas terrorists. So an amateur saves a day,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: a 737 MAX, which has on board an MCAS system.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: You remember when all these 737s were nosediving a few
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: years ago? They put in mandatory software, the maneuverability characteristic
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: augmentation system, MCAS, a software that overrides any spin or
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: sudden dive. That's standard on these aircrafts. Why wasn't that
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: kicking into action? Was it disabled or did it not
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: happen the way they're saying it happened? 17,000 feet a loss,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: half flat spin recovery in 29 seconds. All of that happened.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: We're led to believe nothing to see here. Move along.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: And just to reiterate, folks, we'll bring this back on
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: the screen. Netanyahu secretly met the Emirati leader the previous
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: weekend in a trip to Abu Dhabi. What was that about?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I guess that has nothing to do with this, nor
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: does this. UAE intel warned Shin Bet of Hamas action
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: before October 7th, prompting, leaders called to Netanyahu. Netanyahu's basically
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: denying that they had a stand-down order. This came out
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: last week as well. He goes to the UAE, and
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: then the UAE flight is the subject of this 9-11
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: terror plot that was thwarted here. And if you have
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: any questions about the precariousness of Netanyahu's viability, Israelis are
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: divided as a vote that could oust Netanyahu only weeks away.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: It's very divisive. I'm sure none of this means anything, Mike.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: This is all just disparate coincidences.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Coincidences. Now, let's have a look then at the war
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: narrative a little bit. And we're going to begin in
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Switzerland because on the 27th of September, Swiss voters rejected
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: a plan to write a strict version of neutrality into
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: the constitution. So about 70% of people voted no and
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: all 26 cantons said no. Turnout was around 47%. Now,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the neutrality initiative would have stopped Switzerland from joining sanctions
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: against other countries unless the United Nations imposed them. Russia,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: of course, can veto UN sanctions. This would have forced,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: probably would have forced Switzerland to drop its sanctions on Russia.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: The plan would also have blocked most military cooperation with NATO,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: for example, except when Switzerland itself faced a threat. The
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Swiss People's Party, which is the country's largest party, was
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the only party to support the plan. And its backer
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: said that the government had moved too close to the
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: EU and NATO since Russia invaded Ukraine. So the situation here, Patrick, though,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: is I think if we summarize this, Switzerland stays neutral
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: because of this, but the government keeps the freedom to
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: decide on sanctions case by case. and to work with
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: partners when that helps with Swiss security in theory. But
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the point here is that what we're seeing is this
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: constant nibbling at the edges of Swiss neutrality. And it
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: reminds me very much of what's been going on in
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Ireland over the last number of years.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Most famously, Ireland has maintained a position of neutrality. NATO
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: has incrementally, from the inside, basically whittled away the Irish neutrality.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: And also in Austria as well, we have a similar situation.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: A lot of pressure from the U.S., from NATO, and
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: they're colonizing Austria, which is a really important neutral country
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: historically in Europe. So this is very important. This is
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: really the front line, Mike, I think, when we're talking
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: about the war fever that's building up. It's these countries, Austria, Switzerland, Ireland,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: these types of countries.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to warn everybody, hold on to your lunches,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: because this gets really offensive. So this year's award ceremony
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: for the International Prize of Westphalian Peace took place in
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: yesterday in Munster's historic town hall and the peace treaty
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: this is of course based on the peace treaty or
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: named after the peace treaty that ended the Thirty Years'
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: War signed in 1648. The Economic Society for Westphalia and
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Lepa presented the 2026 Prize of Westphalian Peace to NATO.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Secretary General, if we put that back on screen there,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Secretary General Mark Ruda was there to accept the award
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: on behalf of the alliance. With this award to the
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: NATO Alliance, we're honoring an institution that creates reliability, promotes partnership,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: and enables peace through stability in a time of global crisis,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: they said in their press release. It was quite incredible.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: The peace of Westphalia stands for order through understanding and integration.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: This is exactly what NATO is doing in the 21st century,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: they claim. Under the leadership of Mark Rutte, it shows
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that military strength and peacekeeping are not contradictory. but mutually dependent.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: And if you're impressed about how I was able to
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: read that without just splitting my sides open, you know.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: You should be. Weren't we just taught in history to
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: avoid entangling alliances? And that was the lesson of World
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: War I. Wasn't that like one of the main takeaways
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: on every single test we took in history? I'm a
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: little confused, but hey.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Well, that's right, Patrick. But sadly for Lithuania, one of
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: the Baltic states, which has been so supportive of NATO's
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: expansionism and nonsense about Russia over the years, no longer
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: seems to be quite so much on board. So here's
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the Lithuanian prime minister at a visit to NATO headquarters
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: in Brussels earlier this week.
• 50:40
  Speaker 11: Threat is there for the society, but you can't. exaggerate
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: and say, oh, something is happening in upcoming months or weeks.
• 50:50
  Speaker 11: But what I was addressing also, Secretary General, is there
• 50:54
  Speaker 11: any proof, real proof, intelligence services are providing something on
• 50:59
  Speaker 11: the table that Russia is getting ready for something? And
• 51:03
  Speaker 11: there is actually none. So, I mean, the risk remains,
• 51:09
  Speaker 11: but it's not fluctuating or is it increasing or decreasing?
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, other Eastern European leaders have been shot for
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: taking this kind of position.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: In the past. For less. He's only 42 years old,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: very young politician. It's refreshing to hear that, especially from
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: a Baltic leading politician, Mike.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Now, Putin, for his part, was speaking at the Valdai
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: International Discussion Club meeting, and he had this to say.
• 51:36
  Speaker 13: We have come to this very interesting conclusion. situation where
• 51:41
  Speaker 13: NATO is holding maneuvers in the Baltic Sea, and there
• 51:45
  Speaker 13: are very serious threats to Kaliningrad and the Russian promise
• 51:50
  Speaker 13: in case of a blockade of Kaliningrad to be prepared
• 51:54
  Speaker 13: to use all means and forces, including nuclear. And this
• 51:58
  Speaker 13: is a real escalation, like we're on a brink of war.
• 52:01
  Speaker 13: Are we still scaring each other? We're not scaring anyone.
• 52:07
  Speaker 13: And what you've just said, the statement by the foreign
• 52:10
  Speaker 13: ministry and the letters that was forwarded to some countries,
• 52:13
  Speaker 13: this is not threatening, but this is a response to
• 52:18
  Speaker 13: attempts to threaten us.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, his position hasn't changed ever. Really, they
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: are responding to what NATO is doing. And I think
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: that's a very fair assessment. And then finally, in this segment,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I just want to highlight this article written for the
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: 20th anniversary of 9-11 in Roussi, asking why no terrorist
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: attack of comparable scale has followed. The author argues that
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: 9-11 diverted Western strategic attention towards Islamism for two decades,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: while China and Russia grew stronger. For al-Qaeda, he said
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: the attack was both a triumph, provoking a costly global
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: war of terror and a disaster since the US largely
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: dismantled the group. I think he's a bit wrong about that.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I think they mostly funded it.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Didn't they just give them a country of Syria? Yeah, exactly.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: So I think Al-Qaeda is doing pretty well, I think.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: A little rebranding, but they're doing really well.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He said the British intelligence had warned Washington of
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: a hijacking plot as early as 1998, and mass casualty
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: terrorism was already a concern, and that that concern was
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: driven by the 1995 Tokyo Sarin attack, fears of nuclear
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: material reaching Al-Qaeda and Al-Qaeda's weapons experiments in Afghanistan. He
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: said that copycat attacks that people expected never came at
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: that scale, and that since 2006, terrorism has mostly taken
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: two forms. Urban siege attacks like Mumbai and lone actor
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: violence by young men radicalized online. Only Hamas's 7th of
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: October attack, he said, comes close to 9-11 and lethality,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: and it used guns and grenades rather than aircrafts. And
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: he said he credits stronger cockpit security, data-driven intelligence and
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: sustained military pressure on jihadist groups. But he warns against complacency.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Motivation remains high. He says drones offer new ways to
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: deliver an attack and AI could help terrorists develop lethal payloads. So,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: you know, they've got to keep the fear up. It
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: is quite incredible.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: It sounds like he wants another Pearl Harbor to steal
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: a term from rebuilding America's defenses back in the 90s.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's all really important and crucial to what
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: we're about to show you now as well, Mike. Now
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: let's talk about the war. There seems to be something
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: going on in Europe here. EU buyer's remorse is beginning
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: to set in here. This is the Bulgarian Prime Minister
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Radov here. He's saying we need to do more about
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: diplomacy with Russia. We need to reach out with Russia.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: The war fever is getting too dangerous, says the Bulgarian
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: PM here. And then this is Daniela Ryan, Irish journalist,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: talking about Le Monde, an anonymous European diplomat, has basically said,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: continued EU funding for Ukraine feels like watering a desert.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: We're talking about 90 billion euros that's on the table
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: right now. And they're starting to get cold feet about
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: sending this to the little green goblin in Kiev, wondering
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: if that's just going to go down a black hole
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: like the rest of it. The total, they've just done
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: a calculation, Mike, the total number I think, spent on
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Ukraine since the beginning of all this is in excess
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: of 680 billion. I think that around that, you've probably
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: seen that figure. That's a lot of money. It could
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: probably bail out the European economy, the UK, and then some.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: But then finally here, senior European counsel, this was early
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: in the summer, officials want to open communication channel with
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: the Kremlin. We reported on this before. So that's just
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: the basic environment there. But, you know, who's actually winning here?
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Look at this. EU nations have spent $ 113 billion on
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: oil and gas in the last year, above and beyond
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: for the same amount the previous year. So they spend
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: an extra $ 100 billion.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: So they could buy their gas from America and not Russia.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: And then the energy companies are making hay on this.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: And then Andy Burnham, UK government, and others are mulling
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: over VAT cuts on this. But this is just robbing
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Peter to pay Paul here. And look at this. I
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: guess Russia must be losing. Russia, record-breaking crude oil sales.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: the most since 2022. How is this even possible? But
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: that's not the most shocking part of the story, Mike.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg News, mainstream news, Russia, record-breaking crude oil sales,
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: mostly seaborne, by the way, $ 2. 75 billion per week. One week,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: they clocked in $ 2. 75 billion here. But this is the shocker, Mike.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: RT has published the same story Does that mean that
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Bloomberg should be banned in Europe for publishing Russian disinformation?
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: This is dangerous. Putin has got into Bloomberg somehow. The
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: tentacles of Vladimir Putin. No, no bounds, Mike. I'm shocked.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: And I think Bloomberg should be banned from the EU,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: banned from the UK. We're very fragile, the electorate here
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: in the West. We're very prone to hybrid warfare.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: So we need the government to ban these things. Bloomberg, bad,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: very bad.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: But sticking with fuel prices just for a second, Patrick,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: let's bring this on because China has decided that their
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: major refiners have decided to suspend most of the refined
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: fuel exports for October as Beijing is prioritizing domestic supply,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: removing another source of diesel, petrol, and jet fuel from
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: the global market. That's what oilprice.com is saying. And this
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: follows significant rises in fuel exports from China over the summer,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: stopping the exports just in time for winter. Places even
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: more pressure on Britain, of course, also the EU and
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: the United States at a time when prices are already
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: pretty unsustainable with diesel in the UK, pretty standard at
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: being over £ 2 a litre at the moment. In the meantime,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: we'll not play the video, William. In the meantime, we'll
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: show this In the meantime, the US continues to threaten
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: the EU with its own ban on exports. Trump seems
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: to be demanding that the EU empty its reserves or
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: else and drops that news here, posting a video clip,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: which we'll put the link to in the show notes,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: but we'll just move on to what they said on
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: X here, saying that the US is asking for the
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: EU to release 120 million barrels over six months. They're
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: saying that Reuters reported the Europeans, they're sitting on reserves
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: of diesel and our sense would be that they should
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: probably release some of them. That was according to the.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Trade... What's his title?
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Greer's title?
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: Trade Envoy?
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Let's call him that. EU Energy Commissioner Dan Jorgensen held
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: crisis talks with France and Germany. UK, Italy and Ireland
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: with no decision taking, according to the FT. And Europe's
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: strategic reserves are heavily weighted towards diesel with 195 million
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: barrels on paper. But whether those really exist, it's hard
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: to say, including commercial inventories. Europe may hold up to
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: 400 million barrels of diesel. diesel, an industry source said.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: So that's the way it's going there. What's the or
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: else from America? What's the threat? The threat is that
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: America will stop exporting diesel itself, and that will put
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: even more pressure on the EU.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: That's economic terrorism, basically, by the US. 100%.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Now, on top of this, the UN has said that
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: financial support to help populations cope with rising fuel prices
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: is going to reach $ 1 trillion this year. This is another,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: you tell me if you agree with me, Patrick, but
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: this looks to me like another case of asset stripping
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: populations by creating a crisis and then simply funneling taxpayer
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: money directly into corporate pockets, just like they did during
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: COVID with the VAX companies. And more recently, during this
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: whole war narrative to pump taxpayer money into the military
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: industrial AI complex and now the hydrocarbons industry, it just
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: seems like the same gambit.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: It's a giant bailout. For an industry that is raking
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: in record profits in the United States and probably in
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Europe as well. Meanwhile, who's paying for that? Well, us. Again,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: privatize the profits, socialize the losses once again.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Basil, let's come back to you finally for a bit
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: of In Case You Missed It.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: Yes, very quick this week. First of all, Macklemore, or
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: is it Macklemore? Anyway, of course, he was kicked off
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: the Ed Sheeran tour at the behest of Robert Kraft.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: So he launched his own free Palestine tour and it
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 8: sold out extremely quickly.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: Kudos to him. Who knew that.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 8: Rod Stewart is friends with Donald Trump? Well, at least
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 8: he was. But they've now fallen out because Rod says
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: what Israel is doing to Palestinians is exactly what happened
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: to Jews.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: It's genocide.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 8: And he wants to get rid of them all. I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: don't know how they sleep at night. Well, fair play, Rod,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 8: for speaking up. Of course, famously wouldn't let people in
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 8: his house if they hadn't had the jab. Israel Katz,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: the defense minister in the Zionist colony, is arguably one
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 8: of the most genocidal of all. He wants to finish
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 8: the job and push two million Palestinians out of Gaza.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: But it's worth noting that in an earlier reference to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: his ethnic cleansing plan, He talked about pushing a million
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: Gazans south, of course, which would be in line with
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 8: what Francesca Albanese has been saying this week, that the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: death toll is probably more like 700,000. Now we're on
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: to the concrete haired von der Leyen, the EU ambassador.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 8: have introduced this week this programmable currency by 2029.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's coming.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: Unfortunately, already in the EU, you can't transact more than € 10, 000
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 8: in cash, and they're well on their way to their CBDC. And,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 8: of course, if you step out of line, social credit
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: score goes down.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: You won't eat or do anything for that matter. This
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 8: was a particularly grotesque tweet from someone who's actually an
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 8: official member in the israeli ministry of chaos believe it
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: or not that's if you look him up you can
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: see that one of his jobs in the israeli ministry
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: of misinformation is to create chaos and after ireland well
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: they didn't even they didn't even boycott the football matches
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 8: with israel they took part but they wore black armbands
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 8: one player boycotted it there was widespread dissent in ireland
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 8: of course at having to play against genocide. Well, actually,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: often players who were soldiers and had participated in genocide.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: So what he says there is, come on, it's time
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: to activate the pages we scattered in Ireland. And a
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: picture there of one of the victims of the terrorist
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: attack by Israel in Lebanon with the exploding pages, which
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 8: killed and blinded and maimed dozens of people who had
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 8: nothing to do with anything, of course. And finally this week,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 8: there was a bizarre statement from a Labour MP, Jenny
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: Riddle Carpenter, who said a black Labrador, war male and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: the countryside are a far right vision of England, which... Well,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 8: it might be true that people who support the far
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 8: right have dogs and drink warm ale in country pubs,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: but to characterise these things that we think of as
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: Old England as automatically far right struck me as particularly dunder-headed.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: So there's a meme there, I'm sure you can find
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 8: it online, of far right dog breeds being Which ones
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: will you associate with racists and reform supporters and what
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: have you?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: There's no way a border collie could be far right.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: I reject that out of hand, as well as labra poodles.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: And quite frankly, West Highland Terry's always found them to
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: be very affable and open-minded.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: Well- Yes, indeed.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Well, we will undoubtedly talk a little bit more about
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the types of far-right dogs that exist in this country
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: during UK Call News Extra. If you're a UK Call member,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: stay on the live stream for that. But we are
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: out of time. Thank you very much to everybody that's watched.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Don't forget Germ Tonight and Thousand Words podcast on Sunday. Sorry,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: losing track there. We'll be back at 1pm as usual
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: on Monday. Have a great weekend. We'll see you then.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Bye-bye. Thank you.