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Finding Love in Paradise with Jared Haibon · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast.
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Speaker 1: It's Ashley. Oh it's Jared. I know this is a
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Speaker 1: little different sounding voice. This is Mr Ashley I if
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Speaker 1: anybody's keeping track. So happy to have Jared here today.
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Speaker 1: Of Ben's flight was canceled, so he's in the midst
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Speaker 1: of a hectic travel day, and I thought it would
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Speaker 1: be It was actually perfect timing because Jared and my
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Speaker 1: first episode of Bachelor in Paradise ends ends, starts tonight.
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Speaker 1: You have a very radio voice right now going on.
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Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? It's very self spoken.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that I should talk like this in
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Speaker 1: real life? No? Maybe a little bit. Yeah. I like
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Speaker 1: a nunciate more. No, well you do. I'm not trying
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Speaker 1: to make you feel bad. I like your regular voice too. Really,
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Speaker 1: I don't like my regular voice much, prefer my my
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Speaker 1: microphone voice. Well, anyway, let's talk about Paradise. What happened? Okay,
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Speaker 1: So I mean you know what happened last night? I
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Speaker 1: do know what happened last night. That was a rhetorical question. Okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: well I don't want to talk about last night yet.
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Speaker 1: I want to preview what's to come with us and
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Speaker 1: like why we even have multiple episodes, so regale people
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Speaker 1: with um the reason we came word of the day
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Speaker 1: regale well as uh, most of you maybe know if
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Speaker 1: you follow Ashley and My life. We start a business,
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Speaker 1: had a baby, move twice, Lots been going on. Our
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Speaker 1: relationship has definitely taken a back That seems dark, baby,
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Speaker 1: it's not dark. But the fact of the matter is
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Speaker 1: we're still very much in love and happy. Let's also
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Speaker 1: not beat around the bush. We have been very stressed.
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Speaker 1: There's been a lot on our plates. I'm working constantly,
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Speaker 1: you know, quality time that's basically a zero quality. I
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Speaker 1: would also phrase that as our relationship has taken back
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Speaker 1: step because I was focused back see excuse me, because
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Speaker 1: our focus is so much fully so about Dawson, about Audrey's.
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Speaker 1: We've moved. You moved to Rhode Island, which has been
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Speaker 1: a big change for you. So there's been a lot
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Speaker 1: going on. We needed a break, and we had the opportunity, thankfully,
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Speaker 1: which was such a surprise to us both that they
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Speaker 1: wanted us to come to Paradise and give us exactly that,
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Speaker 1: some time to ourselves, some time to really go on
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Speaker 1: a date, enjoy each other's company, and really just start
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Speaker 1: dating each other once again. But also they asked us
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Speaker 1: that's well, that's what I mean. Of course, they don't
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Speaker 1: say no. To our surprise, they asked if we wanted
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Speaker 1: to go to Paradise, and we're scared. We were like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, what are they going to do to us?
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Speaker 1: And then Jared was like, I wouldn't do anything to us,
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Speaker 1: and we've been a couple for so long, and like
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Speaker 1: we're one of the few standing franchise couples. Yeah, they
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Speaker 1: want their couples. However, ever many couples they have left,
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Speaker 1: they want them to stay together. We're going to bring
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Speaker 1: other couples there and they're gonna and crazy, crazy things
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Speaker 1: are gonna go down. Anyway, that didn't happen with spoiler alert,
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Speaker 1: we actually just have a great time. So tonight you'll
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Speaker 1: see us. We walk in, We give a little advice
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Speaker 1: along the way. It wasn't the point of us being there,
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Speaker 1: but the cast seemed to think that we were like
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Speaker 1: a nice neutral space. I think we're knowledgeable within the
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Speaker 1: Bachelor world, so I don't think asking about our opinion
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Speaker 1: on things was the worst idea. Yeah, not to you know,
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Speaker 1: humble Praig. I watched tonight's episode and I'll just say,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's unfortunate. There's an unfortunate part that has
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Speaker 1: left out of one of our first conversations, Um, that
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Speaker 1: that happened when we first got to Paradise. I've talked
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Speaker 1: to the girls and just got the scoop on what's
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Speaker 1: going on. Jared talked to the guys and they only
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Speaker 1: showed my conversation with the girls, so telling the moment
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Speaker 1: they missed well because I was telling all the guys
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Speaker 1: recapping exactly how Ashley and I got together, which included
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Speaker 1: me giving a kiss to Ashley when she Winter Games,
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Speaker 1: which was like a gray area. But we've already talked
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Speaker 1: about this publicly, and so I was telling the story
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Speaker 1: about how I felt the need to confess my feelings
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Speaker 1: and I was the one who made moves and I know,
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Speaker 1: even though made like technically it was the wrong thing,
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Speaker 1: like I knew in my heart it was the right thing.
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Speaker 1: And so I was telling this and Brandon Brandon Um
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Speaker 1: was like, yo, you kissed her at the airport. I said, yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: I needed to do what I need to do, and
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Speaker 1: he goes, that's sketch, you know that sketch man. He
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Speaker 1: said exactly that. It was such that they doesn't show
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Speaker 1: so funny. It would have been great to hear that
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Speaker 1: the only time I would want to be called sketch uh,
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Speaker 1: national television. Wasn't that circumstance. Yeah, alright, well, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we're gonna dive into
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Speaker 1: this episode. Episode to a Bachelor in Paradise season eight.
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Speaker 1: It's hilarious that we're even going to call these people couples.
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Speaker 1: But this is who is quote together at the start
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Speaker 1: of day two. Okay, start of day two is where
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Speaker 1: this this episode comes in at it it's a one
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Speaker 1: night hook up at this point, Brandon and Serene, Andrew
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Speaker 1: and Teddy Hunter and Johnny Justin and Genevieve Cheney and
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Speaker 1: Logan okay, and then the big the big thing here
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Speaker 1: is that the morning of Victoria, Yeah, Victoria f They
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Speaker 1: obviously wanted to do that. They wanted a big name.
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Speaker 1: So when that was going to really stir the pot
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Speaker 1: after night one, because we've both been down there in
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Speaker 1: that day one, there's a certain camardity you have when
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Speaker 1: you're sand one or whatever. First first and whatever they
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Speaker 1: call it, right, because you're down there together, you spent
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Speaker 1: a whole day. It's a new environement. You're like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, we're in paradise together. It's like going to camp.
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Speaker 1: So everybody who comes in after that, it's certainly of
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Speaker 1: course you're friendly and you're wonderful, and you grow attached
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Speaker 1: me to these people, but it's just different anyhow. So
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Speaker 1: of course I knew that they wanted to throw someone like, hey,
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Speaker 1: let's let's get someone that's going to really stirs something
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Speaker 1: up immediately. And of course that's Victoria, big name, very
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Speaker 1: very sexy lady. Can you I can't believe that she
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Speaker 1: I forgot she diated crystals. I did not. That's just
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Speaker 1: like escaped my mind. Somebody brought it to this morning.
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Speaker 1: They were like, oh, Victoria, she did crystals, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, that is correct, and I totally forgot
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Speaker 1: about it. Well, all the girls started freaking out when
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Speaker 1: they see Victoria. She pulls aside Logan and Johnny and
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Speaker 1: she picks Justin for the date. Yeah, dude, she walked
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Speaker 1: in saying that she wanted to talk to Justin. It's
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Speaker 1: hilarious to see, like, how things change in a matter
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Speaker 1: of days, you know, a matter of days, a matter
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Speaker 1: of hours. They've been on the sand for sixteen hours
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Speaker 1: at this point. Probably, Well, Genevieve is freaking out love Genevieve.
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Speaker 1: She's so cute, but she it already feels like she
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Speaker 1: and Justin are in a common in relationship, which totally relatable. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm not judging, I'm saying totally relatable. Yeah, I kind
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Speaker 1: of enjoy that you. Jared loves to see someone Jared loves.
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Speaker 1: Why why do we watch Paradise? Don't watch Paradise because
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Speaker 1: we only want to see people fall in love? Of
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Speaker 1: course not, but I feel like exactly all the nerves
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Speaker 1: that's rushing through her body when she sees Victoria. Of course,
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Speaker 1: how could you not? Because she likes Justin, I feel
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Speaker 1: bad for first of all, Genevieve is stunning, smart, intelligent.
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Speaker 1: She'll do just fine on that beach if Justin, and
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Speaker 1: if Justin doesn't give her her rose. Did you think
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Speaker 1: I was going to do just fine if I didn't
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Speaker 1: get a rose from you? Well, I wouldn't have, obviously,
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Speaker 1: because you would have gotten a rose from someone Jared. Well,
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Speaker 1: one time I did not, and then what happened. You
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Speaker 1: came right back. Yeah, But also you're like downplaying the
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Speaker 1: but you're like you're like, would you It would be
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Speaker 1: the end of your life if you didn't get a rose.
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Speaker 1: For me, it's like, actually, yeah, my spare get out
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Speaker 1: of here. Jared thinks everybody's gonna be just fine. It's
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Speaker 1: so funny because Jared, so this is what Nick, who
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Speaker 1: was what thirty seven at the time of our season,
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Speaker 1: he was always like, everybody's will be fine, They're gonna
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Speaker 1: be fine. Everybody be like, oh my god, I feel
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Speaker 1: so bad. They were eliminated. They're in there in jeopardy,
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Speaker 1: and Nick would be like, they're gonna be fine, They're
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Speaker 1: gonna be fine. And now Jared is the old guy
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Speaker 1: who's like, they're going to be fine. Well, because when
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Speaker 1: we went down there, everybody is so stressed out, and
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Speaker 1: of course you understand, of course I understand why, but
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Speaker 1: I think from someone who has, you know, gained knowledge
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Speaker 1: of the experience after the show, I wanted to go
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Speaker 1: back down there and be like, listen, don't stressed, just
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Speaker 1: have fun, enjoy it, you know. Every It's so funny
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Speaker 1: because Jill, obviously we were friends, you know before she
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Speaker 1: went down to Paradise. We hung out, and she was
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Speaker 1: very open about her fears, and she's like, I just
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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go down there and cry all the time.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's gonna be wonderful. I promise you,
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Speaker 1: it's going to be great for you. And we see
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Speaker 1: that that she took advice and she didn't hold back.
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Speaker 1: She's hilarious and she's maybe the star of the show
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Speaker 1: right now, as she will should be. Even when she
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Speaker 1: impersonated the crabs. Yes, her face, the faces she makes
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Speaker 1: are fantastic, so funny. But babe, I also wanted to
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Speaker 1: kind of like tell everyone like, yeah, this is what
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Speaker 1: happens on the beach, but you guys are going to
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Speaker 1: see each other so much in her life. I just
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Speaker 1: wanted to tell them, like, from what happened with us,
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Speaker 1: it's like, if something ends here, it doesn't feel right
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Speaker 1: and it feels like it's not the end, but like,
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Speaker 1: guess what, it's probably not the not the end. You
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Speaker 1: know you'll be able to go after the you know,
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Speaker 1: see each other after the show. Uh. So, Victoria goes down.
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Speaker 1: She asked justin on the date, now, let's skip forward
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Speaker 1: to just stay with the ending of the storyline, they
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Speaker 1: come back to the beach and Justin they all said
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Speaker 1: they had a good time, right, this is a good time.
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Speaker 1: But it was not like mad Sparks anything. Did they
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Speaker 1: even kiss on that day? Guys? They did? It wasn't obviously,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't memorable because here I am questioning it. Um.
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Speaker 1: But Jenevieve feels like she doesn't want him to be confused,
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Speaker 1: which is hilarious because I had to deal with you
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Speaker 1: being confused so long. So I was like, oh, my girl,
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Speaker 1: confused is just fine, and it's so funny. I obviously
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Speaker 1: understand what Genevieve is coming from. Having said that. Is
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Speaker 1: that funny? How whenever you say having said that, it
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Speaker 1: just means the first half, the first half means nothing.
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Speaker 1: Having said that, in Justin's mind, he's like, huh, who
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Speaker 1: do I have more of a connection with the girl
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Speaker 1: I've known for eight hours or the girl I've known
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Speaker 1: for three hours? Like, it's okay to be a little confused, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but she wants him to come home with a decision.
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Speaker 1: Come home. You just say, come home, come home? Baby?
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Speaker 1: It does it does feel like home? Well, it's very
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Speaker 1: much homes. Are they going home yet it's like glue
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Speaker 1: and home based. Okay, so if they So she sits
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Speaker 1: down with Justin and he says, I'm confused. I really
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Speaker 1: can't make a decision right now, and she goes, well,
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Speaker 1: I want you to know whether it's her or me.
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Speaker 1: I'd rather be dumped or dumped quote quote after twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours, then be you know somebody that you're not
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Speaker 1: sure about. I mean, I love it because I feel it.
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Speaker 1: Of course you feel it, and I love it as
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Speaker 1: well because it's fantastic, especially fantastic TV. But I think
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Speaker 1: if I'm Justin, I think I would be like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: then I choose Victoria. If you're making me choose, it's
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Speaker 1: I've always found that if somebody is making you choose
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Speaker 1: between two people, most likely you're probably gonna go with
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Speaker 1: the other person because they're putting you in such an
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Speaker 1: uncomfortable position. You're either resenting them or you're going to
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Speaker 1: grow to resent them. Yeah, okay, So we don't know
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Speaker 1: what Justin is going to do. I'm sure we'll see
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Speaker 1: more of the storyline when we get more of the
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Speaker 1: Cocktail hour in tonight's episode. But moving on, small little
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Speaker 1: things to touch on, Kira is interested in Casey, but
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Speaker 1: Casey says, not into her. I need somebody who's marriage material.
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Speaker 1: This girl is wild, This girl is Kira is first
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Speaker 1: of all a doctor, which is insanity. Like, I'm really
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Speaker 1: concerned about her career after this. She hadn't seen the ending,
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Speaker 1: and you didn't see like the credit bay or whatever
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Speaker 1: it's called, the when they were wearing wigs. Isn't that
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Speaker 1: the credit thing? No, that wasn't Oh did they have
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Speaker 1: an extra part of it? Well? Whatever. What I'm referring
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Speaker 1: to is this scene where she's wearing a like one
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Speaker 1: piece laundry I think, you know, you know, like a
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Speaker 1: leotard thing. I know what you're talking about. Trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out what scene this was. Yeah, I know, I
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Speaker 1: just saw it today for the first time when I
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Speaker 1: was watching tonight's episode. Yeah, I'm sure. And she walks
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Speaker 1: into the boom boom room wearing lingerie by herself with
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Speaker 1: the libraider that was found in um, what's her name's luggage?
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Speaker 1: Oh Sally, Sally? I mean, hey, good for her herself
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Speaker 1: at night? Why not? She had herself a night? Okay?
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Speaker 1: And then more storyline that's just like a little something
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Speaker 1: something is Michael and Sierra. They're really hitting it off
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Speaker 1: when Daddy daddy, Daddy is so good. She's very um
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Speaker 1: understanding of everything he's going through. She's a really good
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Speaker 1: listener with him, and she's really sweet, very sweet. We
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Speaker 1: had the pleasure of getting to know um both Michael
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Speaker 1: uh and Sienna on the beach. Sierra excuse me, and yeah,
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Speaker 1: she's so sweet. Yeah. So Michael talks about how he's
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Speaker 1: just felt so guarded dating after Laura passed, and whenever
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Speaker 1: things get real, he feels like he's scared and you know,
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Speaker 1: just dips out. He's like, that's a tough situation. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Because Sierra likes Michael but obviously is understanding of his
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Speaker 1: path goes slow. Basically, it's saying, you have to go
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Speaker 1: real slow with me. I know, but that's so hard
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Speaker 1: because in Paradise everything is sped up. So my question
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Speaker 1: for Michael, as much as I love him and I'm
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Speaker 1: so glad he's back on my TV, maybe is Paradise
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Speaker 1: the correct format for him to be dating in right now?
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Speaker 1: Possibly not, we'll see. But watching him is just like
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Speaker 1: Michael A is a breath refreshing Really, It's just that guy.
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Speaker 1: It's just like when he was on Katie season. I
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Speaker 1: remember always saying I'm a little dazed out when Michael
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Speaker 1: A is on screen, But when Michael A comes on screen,
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Speaker 1: he's like so commanding. It was a gentle way he's
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Speaker 1: commanding because he's very much a lead. He's like, Um,
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Speaker 1: you feel like secure, Like that's a secure like that
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Speaker 1: man you'd feel comfortable with. Yeah, he feels. I think
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Speaker 1: his authenticity just really shines through in Paradise and through camera, yeah, camera,
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Speaker 1: just being himself. Um, he made the he said this
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Speaker 1: one thing where he was like, when she passed, he
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Speaker 1: couldn't get used to like sleeping on his side of
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Speaker 1: the bed and not having her on her side of
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Speaker 1: the bed. So then he started sleeping across the bed.
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Speaker 1: I know it's tough. I can't. I can't imagine. And
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Speaker 1: they both start tearing up. How can you not? I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's such a who a heavy conversation, heavy topic, you
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Speaker 1: know your deal. We joke and it's paradise and it's fun,
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Speaker 1: and we talked about how stressed out everybody is, and
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Speaker 1: of course there's stressful parts about it, but in terms
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Speaker 1: of the grand scheme of things, it's nothing. It's all fun.
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Speaker 1: It's play, but then you talk about conversations like this
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Speaker 1: where this is real world stuff and this is somebody
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Speaker 1: who went through something really traumatic. And yeah, for Sierra, uh,
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Speaker 1: it's got to be tough on her. It's so it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be you know, it's just hard. It's hard to
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Speaker 1: talk about. He says, this risky, poignant thing. He goes,
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Speaker 1: Sierra understands an old type of love and beauty. When
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Speaker 1: you do find love, that's really nice. I really is
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Speaker 1: nice and I really like them together. Things work out. Uh.
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Speaker 1: He also thanks her for listening and they kiss, which
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Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised at how that conversation went
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Speaker 1: from like crying to kissing, but I'm glad it happened. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me. And I feel like vulnerable moments
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Speaker 1: like that just really make two people feel connected. And
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Speaker 1: when that happens, you know, feelings come rushing to the
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Speaker 1: surface and then you make a move. Mm hmmm, oh God,
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Speaker 1: I love you. I love you too. Let's talk about
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Speaker 1: something more fun. I love triangle. Okay, Logan is in
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Speaker 1: a love triangle, which is just hilarious. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing about looking I don't I don't get it, honestly, guys,
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Speaker 1: when we were down there, nice man, very nice. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's just like like I remember something about everybody. I
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Speaker 1: think Casey has hysterical I love Casey and uh Lace
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Speaker 1: could see no words. But you don't even need to
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Speaker 1: describe Jacob Is. There's like a conversation you remember with
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Speaker 1: with everybody, except there's not a conversation. Remember. I agree,
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Speaker 1: it's like when when did we talk to him? But
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Speaker 1: I remember glimpses of talking to Logan, but I don't
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Speaker 1: remember much. Okay, Well, it doesn't matter whether we get
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Speaker 1: the appeal. What matters is that Logan has quite an
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Speaker 1: appeal to the ladies here. Yeah, I have a big appeal. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's clear that she is going to be the winner
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Speaker 1: of this love triangle when you're watching this, because Hailey
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Speaker 1: thinks she has something with him, but Logan does not
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Speaker 1: think he has something with her. Basically, he asked her
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Speaker 1: this next to each other on like the little Palapa
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Speaker 1: bed or whatever, and she says he he asked her
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Speaker 1: who she's eyeing or like, who she's into and how
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Speaker 1: she's feeling about the connections she has going on, and
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Speaker 1: she's like, oops, I thought that was with you, but
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Speaker 1: can you look in the mirror. Haley is on my
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Speaker 1: crap list because oh my, did she say something about you?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the old people think about me, the alum. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: she said episode one towards Lace. First of all, Lace
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Speaker 1: is fantastic. Not only is she wonderful in person, she's
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Speaker 1: great TV. Why would you not want Lace on Paradise?
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Speaker 1: And then Haley said something about I'm all for a
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Speaker 1: lum coming back, but six years, like, come on cause
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Speaker 1: the door move on. I with love on six single Haley,
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Speaker 1: I'm hoping Haley finds love. You're hoping years. That's not
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Speaker 1: what I'm hoping for. I'm not hoping for that. I'm
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Speaker 1: hoping she finds love. Having said that, if it just
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Speaker 1: so happens, Haley is single in six years, and they
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Speaker 1: asked her to come on Bachelor in Paradise, I hope
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Speaker 1: that she has the same mindset. And she says, sorry, guys,
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Speaker 1: can't go back on because it's too far gone. I've
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Speaker 1: closed my door, or how about this. Dating in Paradise,
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Speaker 1: of course is very heightened and over the top, but
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Speaker 1: it's still dating in very much real life. You're trying
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Speaker 1: to find love, so I'd like to tell someone if
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Speaker 1: they go on six dates, you know what, don't go
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Speaker 1: on a seventh day. Give up, it's over. It's not
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Speaker 1: gonna work out anyway. That it's just like it just
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Speaker 1: rubbed me the wrong way. I don't understand why people
19:16
Speaker 1: say that. What so Lace isn't allowed to come back
19:19
Speaker 1: because she was on the show six years ago. She's
19:22
Speaker 1: still so young. What is two? She's so young? Yeah,
19:29
Speaker 1: she was on the show very young. So she's thirty
19:31
Speaker 1: two and comes back. Come on, even if you were sixty,
19:38
Speaker 1: well maybe not sixty. Sixty's a little much to be
19:40
Speaker 1: on Paradise, but get my point. Let's move on, and
19:44
Speaker 1: she's not. Logan and Logan and Shanay have a date
19:48
Speaker 1: and there's really nothing memorable from it except for the
19:50
Speaker 1: fact where it's like, damn, you can get anyone. I'm not.
19:58
Speaker 1: I'm ripped on Logan a little bit. Okay, fun His
20:02
Speaker 1: intro Paradise is very good, where he's got like a
20:04
Speaker 1: migrator in one hand in my time and he's like
20:08
Speaker 1: my tie. Alright, So now we have this Sally drama.
20:11
Speaker 1: The Sally drama is a little bit silly, but let's
20:13
Speaker 1: let's tell the audience what we know of the Sally
20:15
Speaker 1: drama because we were told by producers exactly what was
20:20
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes before we even saw Wells's tail.
20:23
Speaker 1: Well Wells's tail is pretty much exactly what happened where
20:26
Speaker 1: Wales goes on this saga of Sally's suitcase and so
20:31
Speaker 1: on clean season. Uh. Sally she left before even night one, yep,
20:37
Speaker 1: and said she wanted a second shot at love. So
20:40
Speaker 1: she decided to send a producer to make sure that
20:44
Speaker 1: producer make sure she got on the plane. Then she
20:47
Speaker 1: said she couldn't had explosive diarrhea. So these are the two.
20:51
Speaker 1: There's a couple of parts in Wells's story that we
20:53
Speaker 1: didn't hear, so I'll explain what we heard from the producer.
20:57
Speaker 1: Two things, well, one love Wells. He's hysterical. But the
21:01
Speaker 1: second thing is that bad. It just it wasn't bad.
21:05
Speaker 1: It was just stop. It was like it was like
21:11
Speaker 1: a chuckle at first, like oh ha ha yeah, and
21:13
Speaker 1: then it was like, oh, it's still going, and then
21:14
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, it's still going. And
21:17
Speaker 1: who was the other guy in the skit? At first
21:19
Speaker 1: we thought it was Casey, but then we're like, oh, no,
21:21
Speaker 1: this isn't casey, So why did they do Like, why
21:24
Speaker 1: would they do that? Like they should have introd who
21:27
Speaker 1: that was or had a cast member do it. I
21:30
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. Anyway, guys, we we were we
21:33
Speaker 1: thought it was funny, but it was not funny. Okay,
21:36
Speaker 1: we're being nice. Is very funny. Yeah, like when Wells
21:39
Speaker 1: is doing his his interviews, his narration, it's fantastic. But
21:44
Speaker 1: do you know what this is going to kick us
21:45
Speaker 1: in the butt. You know this is going to bite
21:46
Speaker 1: us in the butt because he's going to have a
21:49
Speaker 1: story time saga. I believe about our story, and what
21:52
Speaker 1: if he re enacts our story, then we're gonna like
21:54
Speaker 1: it's hilarious ever ten minutes long, and it was so
21:59
Speaker 1: much better than the is the one anyway? Okay, So
22:03
Speaker 1: but back to the suitcase. The girls fought. This is
22:06
Speaker 1: a little bit of a stagy moment, and we don't
22:08
Speaker 1: love staging moments here. So what happens? I believe truly
22:12
Speaker 1: that the suitcase did arrive there, um because she decided
22:17
Speaker 1: very last minute not to get on the plane. In
22:20
Speaker 1: the story, it says that, okay, we're getting all over
22:25
Speaker 1: the place. Let me condense. What we heard from producers
22:30
Speaker 1: while we were there is that Sally did have a
22:32
Speaker 1: producer come to wherever she lives, I think in Tennessee.
22:36
Speaker 1: They tried to get her. Um, they tried to go
22:38
Speaker 1: to the house, and then she was like, I don't
22:39
Speaker 1: want to, and then I do want to and I
22:40
Speaker 1: do want to go, and then there was a guy
22:42
Speaker 1: and it was her ex, and then he wanted her
22:45
Speaker 1: to or he didn't want her to, or there was
22:46
Speaker 1: like you know, it was so much of back and forth.
22:50
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is the bottom line is she
22:57
Speaker 1: didn't get on the plane, but they definitely booked her
23:00
Speaker 1: flight or two or three. It was like they booked
23:02
Speaker 1: her multiple flights that she wasn't getting on. What the
23:06
Speaker 1: two things that were surprises to us was the diarrhea.
23:10
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that part of the story. She said,
23:13
Speaker 1: you can't come in, I have massive diarrhea to whatever
23:16
Speaker 1: producer came to the door, and then she apparently wasn't
23:19
Speaker 1: even home. I can't take that part tongue in cheek anyway. Yeah,
23:22
Speaker 1: I mean Genevieve believed it. Oh didn't believe the Yeah, yeah,
23:30
Speaker 1: they're all they are pretty much believing everything. And then
23:33
Speaker 1: the other thing we didn't hear from producers was that
23:38
Speaker 1: that Sally had a producer sitting in the trunk of
23:41
Speaker 1: her car for four to five hours during a hot
23:43
Speaker 1: summer day. That was just didn't happen, right, There's no way.
23:48
Speaker 1: I can't imagine you didn't. First off, it would have
23:50
Speaker 1: been an SUV trunk and not like an actual like
23:54
Speaker 1: sedan truck trunk. Why did they weigh in the trunk?
23:58
Speaker 1: I can't remember because she had to go talk her
24:00
Speaker 1: ex and she was like, my X can't see you
24:03
Speaker 1: sitting in the car with me or sitting in the car,
24:05
Speaker 1: so you have to go in the trunk and hide.
24:08
Speaker 1: That's I definitely believe that she had a producer hiding, yeah,
24:12
Speaker 1: hiding the trunk. And it could be absolutely an exaggeration,
24:16
Speaker 1: or maybe it was just being in the car. Anyway,
24:18
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. It's funnier if the producers in the trunk.
24:21
Speaker 1: Let's just say the producers in the fine But there's
24:23
Speaker 1: also no way that any human would sit in a
24:26
Speaker 1: car for five hours waiting for somebody. You would go
24:29
Speaker 1: and bang on that door in the trunk. Wasn't that
24:32
Speaker 1: trunk for two hours? I would have been convinced I
24:35
Speaker 1: was kidnapped and about to be buried alive thousand percent.
24:38
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm saying it was definitely an STUV truck.
24:40
Speaker 1: It's probably didn't happen, but anyway, then okay, I'm going like,
24:44
Speaker 1: we're going to the beliefs and the not beliefs. So now,
24:47
Speaker 1: did the suitcase actually arrive to Paradise because it arrived
24:50
Speaker 1: on the plane with the producer without Sally. Yes, totally
24:54
Speaker 1: believe that. Do I believe that there was she packed
24:56
Speaker 1: a waffle maker and a vibrator and all that. No,
25:04
Speaker 1: they've definitely sent the girls up there and like there's
25:06
Speaker 1: a new suitcase from a new arrival. Come on, we
25:11
Speaker 1: can say that that was definitely them having fun with her.
25:15
Speaker 1: I don't know, sometimes you want waffles in Paradise, you know,
25:17
Speaker 1: the waffle you know, the vibrator would have been believable,
25:21
Speaker 1: but then adding the waffle maker just made it all
25:23
Speaker 1: not believable. Does she have like a thing with waffles?
25:26
Speaker 1: They said that there was like a gift that the
25:28
Speaker 1: girls gave her as a like a newly or wizard
25:32
Speaker 1: called like um an engagement gift because she kept going
25:36
Speaker 1: back and forth between her ex and being single. A
25:40
Speaker 1: waffle maker as an engagement gift. Huh, that's like a
25:43
Speaker 1: wedding gift. It's like it could be the same. Girls
25:47
Speaker 1: get that stuff for bridle showers. Okay, get a waffle
25:52
Speaker 1: maker for bridle shower. Bridle shower gifts are often very
25:55
Speaker 1: similar to like wedding gifts. It's like for house swear,
25:58
Speaker 1: a lot, pots and pants, where it's the bachelorette party
26:01
Speaker 1: where you get like launderye or something like that. Hold on,
26:05
Speaker 1: wait a minute, so you're telling me that you get
26:07
Speaker 1: gifts for both for your bridle shower, for your bachelorette party,
26:12
Speaker 1: and for your wedding. The bachelorette party gifts are just
26:15
Speaker 1: like fu fous if anything I didn't even it is expensive.
26:20
Speaker 1: I didn't even get more anything for a bachelorette because
26:23
Speaker 1: I gave her something for the bridle So it was
26:24
Speaker 1: like if you were at the bridal shower, then you
26:26
Speaker 1: didn't have to get anything for the bachelorette. This is
26:28
Speaker 1: all very confusing. Well, now we have to talk about
26:31
Speaker 1: Romeo and Jill. This is a storyline that you probably
26:37
Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about because you do love Jill.
26:39
Speaker 1: So much, and Romeo is quite the character. He is
26:43
Speaker 1: something to figure out and what Michael Ay said was hilarious.
26:47
Speaker 1: He goes The way that he's dealing with this social
26:49
Speaker 1: situation makes me really doubt that he went to hard.
26:53
Speaker 1: It's making it hard to believe that he's a mathematician
26:55
Speaker 1: that graduated from because he's like a little bit it
27:00
Speaker 1: awkward and like he's like all about number? Is it
27:02
Speaker 1: not so much about words? Some people are so incredibly
27:05
Speaker 1: smart that it hurts their social dynamic. I don't know,
27:09
Speaker 1: but yeah, Romeo, it's almost think he like he thinks
27:13
Speaker 1: everything in analytics, it doesn't really factor in human motion. Um,
27:18
Speaker 1: because the poor guy doesn't know how to handle awkward
27:22
Speaker 1: situations and he handled it so poorly. And I don't
27:25
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't think Romeo is a bad
27:26
Speaker 1: guy at all. No, I don't think. No. I really
27:29
Speaker 1: enjoy Romo. Yeah, so it's sad that he's like getting
27:31
Speaker 1: such a bad rap and making such well, but it's
27:35
Speaker 1: sad that he's making such poor decisions. I would agree
27:39
Speaker 1: it's sad he's making such poor decisions because you're like Romeo, dude, dude, Well,
27:44
Speaker 1: we loved what he did last week. Last week he
27:47
Speaker 1: said like, Kira, I'm not interested in pursuing anything with
27:50
Speaker 1: you because I want to move forward with Jill. And
27:53
Speaker 1: then it's twelve hours later, twenty four or whatever and
27:57
Speaker 1: he's like, uh, Brittain, I would like to continue things
28:02
Speaker 1: with you and say goodbye to Jill. I know, I know.
28:06
Speaker 1: It was just obvious that he was not into here,
28:08
Speaker 1: and he was into Britain and that's why he said it.
28:10
Speaker 1: It wasn't that he was I thought he was genuinely
28:13
Speaker 1: into Jill. And then he looked at Brittany and he
28:15
Speaker 1: was like, no, I liked I like this too. I mean,
28:17
Speaker 1: how much could you be into Jill if you looked
28:19
Speaker 1: at Brittain you were like, never mind something, China. I
28:22
Speaker 1: don't know. That's all very sad, and we love the
28:24
Speaker 1: way that Jill reacting. She's the best. Jill is just
28:28
Speaker 1: so funny. What are some of these good lines? The
28:31
Speaker 1: one that says Jill always so sad? When Jill said
28:34
Speaker 1: I'm a great person and I know that, yeah, like
28:37
Speaker 1: I'm really cool and I know that. Yeah, it was
28:40
Speaker 1: funny but also very endearing. Its week, and then Romeo
28:44
Speaker 1: just I just and then the poor guy went around.
28:47
Speaker 1: It was crazy to me that on the night of
28:50
Speaker 1: a rose ceremony, Romeo was ready to give out a
28:53
Speaker 1: rose to anybody who just said, yeah, I'll take it,
28:56
Speaker 1: and then the next week they could easily just say, uh,
29:00
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go and pursue something with somebody else.
29:03
Speaker 1: But crazy that that happens a lot. That's like friendship roses,
29:07
Speaker 1: but he didn't even hand out a friend point. Nobody
29:10
Speaker 1: accepted his friendship rose. Well not yet. We don't know
29:13
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Somebody will accept it, but in
29:16
Speaker 1: terms of like nobody was grabbing it, like there was
29:17
Speaker 1: a rose up for grabs and everybody was pursuing. Yeah,
29:22
Speaker 1: it's like, get the rose, stay the next week and
29:24
Speaker 1: then figure it out. Then. I know we were there,
29:27
Speaker 1: we show up the day after the rose ceremony, but
29:29
Speaker 1: I really don't remember who he ends up giving the
29:32
Speaker 1: rose to. Okay, well guys, but yeah, I mean, plus,
29:40
Speaker 1: if you're a girl and you get Romeo's rose, you're
29:43
Speaker 1: guaranteed two more weeks. Yeah, so just get the rose. Yeah,
29:47
Speaker 1: what are you gonna be villainized? You're gonna be fine.
29:49
Speaker 1: Romeo is messing up left and right, just be like, yeah,
29:51
Speaker 1: I'll accept your rose, but you know, I'll pursue something
29:53
Speaker 1: with you, but I'm gonna also pursue things with other
29:55
Speaker 1: people too, if that's okay. And I'm sure Romeo would
29:57
Speaker 1: say yeah, because nobody else is saying yes to us.
30:00
Speaker 1: Out with Romeo, he does end up in tears because
30:02
Speaker 1: he goes back to Kira and says, I was close
30:06
Speaker 1: minded early on, and I would like to salvage any
30:08
Speaker 1: spark that we've possibly had. Poor guy. Like, again, I
30:12
Speaker 1: like Romeo. I do really like Romeo, but man, it
30:16
Speaker 1: was kind of pathetic to see the whole ending where
30:18
Speaker 1: he was like trying to get a rose and then
30:20
Speaker 1: nobody was taking and then he started crying, and it's like,
30:22
Speaker 1: oh god, bro, just pull pull up your big boy
30:25
Speaker 1: pants and let's get through this. You're fine, you're handing
30:28
Speaker 1: out a rose, you know, just relax, You're okay. But
30:32
Speaker 1: then again, it's not helping your cause that you're crying
30:34
Speaker 1: right now. I think it would. If I would, I
30:38
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, this man has like feelings and
30:41
Speaker 1: empathy and like he's knowing that he's messed up. Yeah,
30:45
Speaker 1: all right, it's not a bad point either. Yeah, Like
30:49
Speaker 1: there's something wishy about him, Yes, something mush. All right, Okay,
30:53
Speaker 1: well let's wrap this podcast up with a few headlines
30:57
Speaker 1: and we'll do that right after this break. First two
31:10
Speaker 1: headlines are Clayton and Susie related. Can I'll sum it
31:15
Speaker 1: up really quickly? Sure? Okay? Alright, So the first one
31:17
Speaker 1: is Clayton and Susie. They were on the Off the
31:20
Speaker 1: Vine podcast with Well, they weren't together on the podcast.
31:23
Speaker 1: I think they did a joint interview. No, it says
31:26
Speaker 1: Clein Eckered and Susie Evans continue to do things their
31:29
Speaker 1: own way, giving a joint interview about the decision to
31:31
Speaker 1: call it quits two weeks after the splint interesting, God
31:35
Speaker 1: everything around here. Clay went on say, I wasn't really
31:40
Speaker 1: sure of what my next step was going to be
31:41
Speaker 1: once the show ended. I had uprooted myself, sold my place.
31:45
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I can go wherever. But
31:48
Speaker 1: what do I end up doing? Am I going back
31:50
Speaker 1: to corporate America? Am I going to chase my passions?
31:54
Speaker 1: A lot of things being unknown? And I think put
31:56
Speaker 1: that put me in a place of instability plus, but
31:58
Speaker 1: the backlash of the show became very overwhelming, very quickly.
32:02
Speaker 1: And so what I think ended up happening, uh is
32:05
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out what my next step was,
32:08
Speaker 1: and I started questioning who I was because of the negativity.
32:12
Speaker 1: I started to believe some of what was being said
32:14
Speaker 1: about me. And now I look back at it and
32:16
Speaker 1: realized I couldn't be that stable, secure man that I
32:20
Speaker 1: needed to be in order to give my all in
32:23
Speaker 1: a relationship. So he's blaming the negativity on the relationship
32:27
Speaker 1: dissolving with Susie, And then Susie went on to say
32:31
Speaker 1: that I think it was just self identity, and I
32:34
Speaker 1: think that he was looking for stability and there were
32:36
Speaker 1: times when I didn't provide that as well because I
32:39
Speaker 1: just wasn't sure. She goes on to say, I can't
32:42
Speaker 1: wait three months, I can't promise three months or whatever.
32:45
Speaker 1: And I think that's really hard in relationship too, when
32:48
Speaker 1: I'm on the other hand, like I need security. I
32:51
Speaker 1: want to be too whole people. So it sounds like
32:55
Speaker 1: Clayton couldn't give both of them couldn't give stability because
33:00
Speaker 1: they're both kind of rocked. I think they're just kind
33:02
Speaker 1: of rocked from the in the start of it all.
33:05
Speaker 1: Here's what here, here's what I can summon up in. Okay, yes,
33:08
Speaker 1: Mr Help, I second dating Clean wasn't ready to be
33:10
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. We all do that. If you're going to
33:13
Speaker 1: be the Bachelor, you're gonna sign up for this. You
33:15
Speaker 1: realize what you're signing up for. You're gonna get negativity.
33:18
Speaker 1: You didn't have any practice, he had no attention during
33:21
Speaker 1: the first season. But then as the show, I'm not
33:23
Speaker 1: I'm not defending him. You got to cast someone who's
33:26
Speaker 1: ready to be in the public eye, who's gonna be
33:28
Speaker 1: in this really tremortuous relationship like it happens every single season,
33:33
Speaker 1: you know. I mean there's always there's always the run
33:35
Speaker 1: of rob, there's always somebody being dumb the bachelor. Bachelor
33:39
Speaker 1: is always getting, you know, some sort of grief because
33:42
Speaker 1: they have to break up with twenty five people to
33:44
Speaker 1: end up with the person that they want to end
33:45
Speaker 1: up with. So it's difficult and it's hard, and I
33:48
Speaker 1: understand that, But you're the bachelor. So if if you
33:52
Speaker 1: couldn't overcome it, then you couldn't overcome it. But then
33:54
Speaker 1: I would just argue that maybe you weren't ready to
33:56
Speaker 1: be on the ship, you know, be the lead, which
33:58
Speaker 1: is Okay, I don't think I was going to be
34:00
Speaker 1: ready to be the lead. You kid me. If they
34:02
Speaker 1: casted me as the bachelor, probably would have been fine.
34:06
Speaker 1: You're dismistress, stability doubtful, very doubtful. But my point being,
34:12
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just like best of luck to him. Okay. Well,
34:17
Speaker 1: just because they're not together, Moore, doesn't mean that we
34:18
Speaker 1: shouldn't keep still keep up with Susie's TikTok's because she
34:22
Speaker 1: is a master at them. She's so funny on them.
34:24
Speaker 1: Do you watch them very good on TikTok? It always
34:26
Speaker 1: comes up my search patrons because you watch them. Yeah,
34:29
Speaker 1: we share. So she's poking fun of herself on TikTok
34:33
Speaker 1: about her self care and she's like talking into a
34:36
Speaker 1: blank diary. She's got face mask on, so check out
34:40
Speaker 1: her her TikTok. She says she's got to fix her
34:42
Speaker 1: entire life now after this simple I love how open
34:46
Speaker 1: she is. She pokes funded herself a lot, definitely doesn't
34:49
Speaker 1: take herself too seriously. Well, Jared, you are closer with
34:53
Speaker 1: the next person because you guys used to do a
34:55
Speaker 1: podcast together of this. Next Headlinevanessa Grimaldi just welcomed her
35:03
Speaker 1: first baby boy with her husband, Josh Wolfe, very good
35:06
Speaker 1: looking man. Yes, of course, Vanessa used to co host
35:09
Speaker 1: Help I Second Dating with myself and Dean. She's a
35:11
Speaker 1: wonderful human being. She's going to be an incredible mother.
35:16
Speaker 1: She's so motherly, she's carrying, she's endearing, she's protective. She
35:20
Speaker 1: makes me feel like I'm a crappy mom. I would agree,
35:25
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, your most wonderful mom. No, she was like,
35:28
Speaker 1: just like like, if you look up the definition of
35:30
Speaker 1: what you expect a mother to be's Vanessa. Okay, Well,
35:34
Speaker 1: the little detail about the delivery, It was via C
35:37
Speaker 1: section um. The name has not been revealed, but he
35:41
Speaker 1: was born at seven pounds nine ounces. He was He
35:46
Speaker 1: arrived on September nine, which was one day before her
35:50
Speaker 1: thirty five birthday. He missed the biggest part of them
35:52
Speaker 1: all and they watched hocus Pocus at the Montreal Hospitals two. Yeah,
35:58
Speaker 1: which we haven't watched yet. I know I need to
36:00
Speaker 1: get on that. But a big congratulations to Vanessa and
36:02
Speaker 1: Josh do you wonderful people, well deserving, very excited for
36:06
Speaker 1: you both. And congratulations to Kayla Quinn, who also announced
36:10
Speaker 1: this week that a baby is in their future with
36:13
Speaker 1: husband Nick Brello. The two of them have been together
36:17
Speaker 1: for five years, and um, it looks like, yeah, the
36:20
Speaker 1: baby is pretty well developed in the photo of the
36:24
Speaker 1: sonogram picture that we saw, and she says, it's three
36:26
Speaker 1: and a half months. And I know obviously we have
36:28
Speaker 1: history with Kayla, but that doesn't matter. She's going to
36:31
Speaker 1: be a great mom. We're very excited for her and
36:34
Speaker 1: for her husband Nick. That's great news and I think
36:37
Speaker 1: also she will be a great mom, so very much. Yes,
36:41
Speaker 1: big congratulations Tequayla. Oh wow, this is a big headline.
36:46
Speaker 1: Garrett x is engaged that I didn't see that, but
36:50
Speaker 1: they've been dating for two years. Her name is alex Farrer.
36:53
Speaker 1: They think got together quite soon after they broke up.
36:57
Speaker 1: But look at that Becca and Garrett both engaged. Now.
37:00
Speaker 1: He popped the question in San Diego, um said, he said,
37:05
Speaker 1: our engagement was exactly how I imagined it. I love
37:08
Speaker 1: you so much, Alexandra. Um, Alexandra, I can't wait to
37:11
Speaker 1: spend forever with you little al Congrats to them too.
37:17
Speaker 1: I mean, that's amazing that they that they both ended
37:21
Speaker 1: up having happily ever after. You know, they just they
37:23
Speaker 1: weren't meant to be, so start calling you little ash lash.
37:27
Speaker 1: That's cute. Okay, well guys, that is it for to
37:31
Speaker 1: j Ben and I will be back tomorrow. Breaking down
37:34
Speaker 1: Jared in my first episode of Paradise, there's a lot
37:37
Speaker 1: that goes down. We we thought that when we got
37:41
Speaker 1: there that things are kind of calm, right where like
37:44
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of secure couples, doesn't seem like
37:47
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people interested, like you, strongly interested
37:50
Speaker 1: in each other. Lots can happen, and a lot did
37:54
Speaker 1: happen when we got there. Yeah, like it gets really spicy.
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