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TCU 66, Ohio State 64: NCAA Tournament Instant Reaction · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning for Friday, March twentieth, I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Tom Moore. The ball State game in one
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  Speaker 1: on today show, we are talking about Ohio State basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes played the very first game of the Thursday of
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  Speaker 1: the NCAA Tournament, and it didn't get off to a
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  Speaker 1: great start. They made a heck of a run and
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  Speaker 1: ultimately fell just one bucket short, sixty six sixty four loss.
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  Speaker 1: Do TCU. The Buckeyes season is done. Going to be
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  Speaker 1: joined by Tony Gerda matter a Huddle dot Com to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it. Tony, I guess this was I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this game really was a tale of two halves. The
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  Speaker 1: buck Eyes were down fifteen points at halftime. It looked
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  Speaker 1: like they just was nothing was working there. What went
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  Speaker 1: wrong in the first half, Well.
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  Speaker 2: What went wrong in the first half is something that
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  Speaker 2: I I mentioned something somebody the day before in terms
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  Speaker 2: of how does TCU win, and I said, if they
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  Speaker 2: shoot threes like they normally don't, because they make about
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  Speaker 2: seven and nobody's a really good three point shooter on
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  Speaker 2: their team. And they were seven of thirteen in the
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  Speaker 2: first half. But even more than that, their defense was incredible.
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  Speaker 2: They were physical and they were doubling everything and it
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  Speaker 2: looked like they had six guys on the floor defensively,
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  Speaker 2: and Ohio State basically needed that have time to recover
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  Speaker 2: and regroup and address the issues. And so TCU just
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  Speaker 2: came out swinging and hit offensively, hit defensively, and then
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  Speaker 2: held on but didn't and then regrouped, you know. So
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  Speaker 2: it was it was an interesting first half for TCU,
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  Speaker 2: and then Ohio State was kind of just shell shocked
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  Speaker 2: for a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the first half, TCU seven for thirteen from
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  Speaker 1: three fifty three percent, and then for Ohio State just
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  Speaker 1: two for eleven in the first and then after halftime
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  Speaker 1: everything changed. TCU sort of regressed to what you would
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  Speaker 1: sort of expect, two for ten from three. Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: didn't get a whole lot better. They were just four
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  Speaker 1: for twelve, but some of those four were some big,
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  Speaker 1: big buckets for them. At key moments. They were down,
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  Speaker 1: as I mentioned, fifteen at halftime, and even with about
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes left, they'd only cut it to about twelve
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  Speaker 1: minutes left. Ten minutes left, they'd only cut it to thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like, boy, oh boy, they're playing better,
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  Speaker 1: but they're also running out of time. It felt like
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  Speaker 1: the defense got a lot better, and then it took
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  Speaker 1: until about halfway through the second half for the offense
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  Speaker 1: to finally catch fire.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, then they go on a fifteen to one run
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't just one guy doing it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Amari buying them is scoring. Devin Royal, Christophe Telly, John
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  Speaker 2: Mobley had a three in there, and it was just
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  Speaker 2: a consistent effort and they're getting good looks and they're
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  Speaker 2: passing the ball and they were cutting and finding those
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  Speaker 2: cutters and had some good plays drawn up and they
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  Speaker 2: grab a five point lead and you're like, Okay, the
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  Speaker 2: water has found its level and here we go. And
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  Speaker 2: then TCU fought back again and to the to their credit,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, that stretch of the second half, I think
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  Speaker 2: you saw as good as you know, you saw a
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  Speaker 2: very good Ohio State team, and really Bruce Thornton wasn't
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  Speaker 2: doing much during that stretch in terms of scoring. And
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's the other story of this game, as we
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  Speaker 2: discussed further, but you know, they they got you know,
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  Speaker 2: this was there was a stretch there were Amari byam
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  Speaker 2: and I tweeted us out it's like this is this
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  Speaker 2: is the point of the season where he plays so
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  Speaker 2: well he decides I'm going to go to the NBA
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  Speaker 2: like Malachi Brandham and D'Angelo Russell and Mike Conley, where
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  Speaker 2: it's just like, I'm really good for a true freshman.
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  Speaker 2: And he had some tremendous plays defensively, offensively, driving, dunking,
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  Speaker 2: clutch shots and double clutch shots and really impressive and
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  Speaker 2: you could see some you can see a future friend
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  Speaker 2: that is very very bright, and everything's going Ohio State's way,
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  Speaker 2: and yet TCU just would not stop. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think one of the issues that maybe Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: didn't take advantage of was Exavier Edmonds, who eventually hits
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  Speaker 2: the game winning shot, played he picked up his fourth
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  Speaker 2: foul with eight minutes to go, and they never really
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  Speaker 2: went at him to kind of get him out of
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean you mentioned they had a five
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  Speaker 1: point lead, that was about with about six minutes left,
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  Speaker 1: and then PCU came back, took the lead, had a
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  Speaker 1: three point lead with under a minute to play. Bruce Thornton,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned he did not have a huge game, hit
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  Speaker 1: an early three, and then was just really kind of quiet.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't that he had a bad game, he just
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  Speaker 1: kind of had a quiet game for most of the day.
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  Speaker 1: Ends up hitting a game tying three with about thirty
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  Speaker 1: seconds left, one of, if not the biggest shots of
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  Speaker 1: his career at that point. And then at the final possession,
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  Speaker 1: TCU gets the ball, gets it down on the block
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  Speaker 1: and was able to able to get around a couple
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  Speaker 1: post defenders for Ohio State get a bucket with four
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  Speaker 1: seconds left, and then Tony, I know this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be one of the things that the people who
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  Speaker 1: are not big Jake Diebler fans, the final shot, the
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  Speaker 1: play for the final shot. That's one that I think
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  Speaker 1: we're going to hear a lot about from the people
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  Speaker 1: who are not in the Jdebler fan club over the
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  Speaker 1: next six months or so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So right after that basket for Edmunds, they call timeouts,
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  Speaker 2: their final timeout there's four point three seconds left, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, in college, you don't advance the ball, like
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  Speaker 2: there's no automatic advance like in the NBA, where you
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  Speaker 2: can call it him out there and be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we want it at mid court. That's not here. You
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  Speaker 2: have to advance the ball to get it to mid court.
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  Speaker 2: And so the play drawn up is basically Bruce Thornton
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  Speaker 2: inbounding to Christoph Tilley basically under the basket and then
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  Speaker 2: getting the ball back and then trying to run as
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  Speaker 2: far and as fast as he can in four seconds
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  Speaker 2: and ends up throwing up a half court shot. And
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  Speaker 2: I tweeted that with four point three seconds remaining, your
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  Speaker 2: final shot should never be a half court heave, and
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  Speaker 2: Twitter agreed with me, So you know it's a good take.
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  Speaker 2: But you know we've seen tyas Edny. Somebody tweeted act
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  Speaker 2: to me, Tya Sidney, you needed four point eight seconds
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  Speaker 2: to go coast to coast, and Bruce Thornton's not Tyas Edney.
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  Speaker 2: And TCU's defense was stifling all game long. But it
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  Speaker 2: just like you're thinking, like the Evan Turner shot, I'm
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much time he had. I'm guessing
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  Speaker 2: maybe four seconds is ish, And that wasn't a half court heave.
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  Speaker 2: That was in you know, that was between the half
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  Speaker 2: court line and the three point line, and that was
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  Speaker 2: a shot, you know, that was an actual jump shot,
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  Speaker 2: and this was not any of that, and you know
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  Speaker 2: it was you didn't have anybody running towards the basket
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  Speaker 2: when they got the ball, so already like the ball
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  Speaker 2: moves backwards to go forwards, and there's just not enough
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  Speaker 2: time for that. So, yes, this is going to confirm
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  Speaker 2: all of the complaints that people had with Jake Diebler
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  Speaker 2: making it to the tournament and basically is just wiped
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  Speaker 2: out because of this one thing. And I thought overall,
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  Speaker 2: like there were some very good plays drawn up. You
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  Speaker 2: saw some back door catch, you saw a furious comeback
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  Speaker 2: from Ohio State, and then you know they lose the lead,
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  Speaker 2: but they don't collapse. They get it. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: tie it back up again. So there are some resilience
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  Speaker 2: on both sides. But I just that last play call,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they expected to happen, unless you know,
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  Speaker 2: John Mobley was open if Thornton could have seen him,
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  Speaker 2: but Tilly was in between him, Like Tilly was in
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  Speaker 2: between those two. So I don't know that he could
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  Speaker 2: see him, But the only thing that's going to happen
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  Speaker 2: from that play call is a half court shot. And
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  Speaker 2: how do you drop up a half court shot with
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  Speaker 2: four point three seconds left? And I hate, I hate
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  Speaker 2: the baseball pass, you know, down to from under the
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  Speaker 2: basket to the paint on the other side of the court.
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather see somebody shoot a half court shot than
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  Speaker 2: something like that. Four point three seconds should never ever
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  Speaker 2: lead to a half court shot like that. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: my opinion as a non basketball coach.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, the thing you could do there,
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  Speaker 1: You could get the ball inbounds and then call time
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  Speaker 1: out and then you can you know, then you have
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  Speaker 1: three and a half seconds or whatever it is, and
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  Speaker 1: you get you have the option to take it in
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  Speaker 1: from mid court, which that's that probably gives you a
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  Speaker 1: better look you're inside the half court line, because that
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  Speaker 1: was not just a half court shot. That was a
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  Speaker 1: contested half court shot on that last one. So obviously
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  Speaker 1: not the ending Ohio State basketball fans were looking for.
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  Speaker 1: But I think we should take sort of a big
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  Speaker 1: picture look here. I mean, first of all, end of
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Thorton's career four time cappedin, all time leading scorer
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio State history, hits that huge shot to tie
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  Speaker 1: the game in the final minute. You know, I think
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  Speaker 1: we probably should do a little bit of Bruce Thorton
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  Speaker 1: appreciation society for a moment. But then bigger picture is
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  Speaker 1: it was this a successful season for the Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: basketball program because I think you could make a pretty
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  Speaker 1: compelling case that it was where they got they kind
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  Speaker 1: of took the next step. Last year, they were narrowly
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  Speaker 1: outside of the tournament. This year, they get in, they're
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  Speaker 1: comfortably in. This was not a they barely scraped in.
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  Speaker 1: They get in, they're an eight seed, and you play
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  Speaker 1: an eight to nine game, and guess what, an eight
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  Speaker 1: nine game should be pretty competitive. That was a very
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  Speaker 1: competitive game, and it came down to one shot that
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  Speaker 1: didn't make it. The shots are not always going to
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  Speaker 1: fall to me, though. This season represented a, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a tangible step forward for the Ohio State basketball program.
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  Speaker 2: It's absolutely a step forward because there was no tournament
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  Speaker 2: last year for them, and it was no tournament the
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  Speaker 2: year before that, or you know, the year before that.
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  Speaker 2: So this is definitely a step up. It's it's everybody
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  Speaker 2: was clamoring they want to make the tournament. You made
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  Speaker 2: the tournament, so not that you should be happy, but
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  Speaker 2: it's a successful season relative to the recent history of
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State basketball. I think you will also be a
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  Speaker 2: successful season provided they can keep their core, you know,
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  Speaker 2: especially Andrew Bynam and John Mobley at this point, like
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  Speaker 2: Mobley seems like he's not going to go anywhere but
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  Speaker 2: buying them if they can keep him, because there's so
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  Speaker 2: much there that you can see with him, and then
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  Speaker 2: you go ahead and add Anthony Thompson into the mix
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  Speaker 2: next year and whatever they get in the portal. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a successful year based on the tournament, yes,
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  Speaker 2: but also makes it more successful if they can keep
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  Speaker 2: their components that they want to implement for next year
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go. So we will probably have some
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  Speaker 1: college basketball hot stove conversation at some point in the
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  Speaker 1: coming weeks, but there's still plenty of tournament left, and
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  Speaker 1: of course there's plenty of spring football left to talk
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  Speaker 1: about as well. We'll be talking about all of that
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  Speaker 1: us know did you think this was a successful season.
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  Speaker 1: Was this a step forward? Was this say step backward?
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  Speaker 1: Was this just eh e fine but not great? What
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  Speaker 1: would this season mean to you in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: So that'll do it for today. Thank you guys all
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