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Carl Gallups: Signs Revealing The Cross Throughout Scripture · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  I love the guests I get to talk to and catch up with on this podcast, and today's is
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  no different.
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  I've got a friend that we used to talk years ago on the radio, and Carl Gallops, he's
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  a best-selling author, former law enforcement officer, and senior pastor of Hickory,
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  Hammock Church, that's down in Florida.
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  So he's known for his bold insights on prophecy and cultural issues, and he's authored 14
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  books, including Yeshua Protocol and Eyes to See.
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  His brand new book is called Galgotha's Growning, and this is what we're going to be talking
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  about today.
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  Let me just read the subtitle, stunningly unique biblical discourses from Genesis to
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  Revelation that will shake the end times world.
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  We like to talk about Bible prophecy in the end times, and keep Christians on their toes
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  on this podcast.
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  And they're so good to see you again, thanks for your time.
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  Dave, it's my honor, man, I always enjoy being on with you.
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  And yeah, you mentioned me being a pastor and a former law enforcement officer.
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  It's surreal.
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  I feel like I'm lying when I tell you this because it's so surreal.
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  But I have been 39 years in one church, one pulpit, and I'm getting ready to start my
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  40th year at Hickory Hammock Church, and it's unbelievable.
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  And I mean, the Lord has just blessed that church and our ministry, and they allow me
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  to write books they want me to, and to do conferences and media, so thank you for having
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  me on.
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  I'm a very blessed man.
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  God bless.
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  Praise God.
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  That's great.
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  That's something to say nowadays where people jump around a little bit, but the website
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  by the way, friends, I'll give that to you as well, it's hickory hammockbaptist.org.
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  And if you can get information there on Carl's Church.
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  But his website, of course, Carl Gallips.com, all his books are on Amazon as well, but you
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  can link through his website and get much more information and videos and so much more
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  on his website.
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  So brother, before we dive into the book, because it is, I mean, look at the cover and
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  this, the title.
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  It seems to be more of a serious topic, a heavy topic, but there's some keen insights
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  in here that I think I found it to be fascinating, some of the things that you write about.
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  But just in the last, since we talked, it's been a while.
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  Are you out speaking?
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  Do you have a podcast?
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  I know you do a lot of appearances and including preaching in the pulpit every Sunday.
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  Give us a little update.
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  Catch me up.
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  And just for our listeners and viewers that maybe don't know about your ministry.
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  Yeah, yeah, very quickly, yes, everything.
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  Yes, yes, yes, and yes, I used to have an international radio show for 22 years called
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  Freedom Friday with Carl Gallips.
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  I don't do that anymore because I'm just so busy in traveling and preaching and teaching
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  and conferences and podcasts.
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  Now the podcast are, I am on a four or five radio stations on the Gulf Coast, but those
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  are all streamed on YouTube and on I heart radio and Apple podcasting and all of that.
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  And it's called a relevant word with Pastor Carl Gallips.
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  Now people can find all my stuff at CarlGalves.com.
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  The other podcast I have is every Sunday we stream live to the world, but on my staff and
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  I, we take the sermon that I preach, we edit it down to, sometimes I preach like an
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  hour and 10 minutes, but we edit it down to under an hour so that it can go on TikTok
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  and other platforms and it's all over the internet.
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  And so again, from my website, you can find all of those in descending order all the way
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  back for years and people love those because you can just listen to them.
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  You don't have to watch me.
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  It's in video, but you know, if you can't stand looking at me, just you can just listen
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  to it.
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  Awesome.
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  All right.
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  So let's dive into the book Carl Galgotha's groaning.
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  Now I'm going through the table of contents.
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  You have it in different parts.
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  I think there's nine parts and you would think this is not an Easter book or just about
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  what happens on Galgotha because you dive into some very fascinating things when it comes
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  to prophecy or the Old Testament.
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  So tell us about, I mean, what led you to this title for the book?
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, thanks.
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  I think it's chapter eight, the Apostle Paul speaks of the whole creation is groaning,
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  groaning as in the pains of childbirth, waiting for its restoration.
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  Well, and I paraphrase that a little bit, but basically I went to scholarship to, I mean,
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  I knew what I thought the Holy Spirit was telling me Paul was talking about, but it stunned
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  me when I saw the connection between as in the pains of childbirth and almost all the
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  scholars that no Greek and Hebrew and, you know, they were saying, listen, he's talking
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  about the whole creation from the Garden of Eden fell and it's been groaning under the
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  weight of sin and Satan's domain.
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  And it was looking forward to the birth of a child which God prophesied in the Garden
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  of Eden from the womb of a woman will come a male child who will crush your head, Satan.
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  And they said, that's what Paul's talking about.
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  And of course, that child did come and Paul writes about that profusely.
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  So that's what he's talking about.
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  Galgotha is the central theme of the word of God from Genesis to Revelation.
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  Not only do we know that by the surface text, but what this book does is it dives into
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  the original language, the paleo-Hebrew alphabet that creates images and pictures right under
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  the Hebrew words of every passage from Genesis to Revelation which is translated into Hebrew
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  and I use the most scholarly translation of the Greek into the Hebrew and under anything
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  that speaks of the Galgotha event, the crucifixion event and the Old Testament, it's all prophecies
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  of it.
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  In the New Testament, it's the revelation that it did happen by the prophecies, every one
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  of those, sometimes under two or three different verses, sometimes under a paragraph, but in
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  every one of those events, the prophecies or the revelations of it from Genesis revelation,
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  the picture of Galgotha made from the letters of the ancient, ancient paleo-Hebrew, three
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  crosses Jesus in the middle, every one of them, it's like a DNA code.
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  Now I'm oversimplifying this, my book has a hundred illustrations, it's all backed up
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  by scholarship, one of my very prolific ministry partners is Messianic Rabbi Zef Pirate lives
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  in Tel Aviv, he speaks Hebrew as his first language, he's a believer in Yeshua, he ministers
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  all over the world and he checks all of my Hebrew, all of my findings and he's blown away
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  by it.
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  In fact, he's got a new book coming out and he's actually using some of my stuff and he's
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  just so blown away by it.
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  He said, Carl, this is not coincidence, this is my language, he said that this is impossible,
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  it's impossible humanly.
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  You know, I wish we had pictures of some of these pages to describe what you're describing
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  because it really is fascinating, I'm a visual guy and it's very fascinating, I love
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  up on page 20 words that are pictures and I want to have you explain the TAV, the evolution
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  of the TAV, the TAV, the TAV, it's a symbol, Hebrew symbol, explain what that is and
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  keep it, you know, dumb it down for people like me.
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  Yeah, I will, a lot of people know that the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet is the
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  alaf and the last letter is the TAV, a lot of your viewers and listeners will know this
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  just from things on the internet, et cetera.
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  And I do include that understanding, but then it gets deeper and deeper and deeper until
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  you see this DNA code that's from Genesis to Revelation.
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  But in the ancient Hebrew, see, the whole Old Testament was written in what's called paleo
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  Hebrew and so that's, it's, it doesn't, the letters don't look like the modern Hebrew,
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  that was changed a couple hundred years before Christ and it has been evolving ever since.
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  The ancient scriptures, the Dead Sea Scrolls, when you look at it, it's written in paleo Hebrew.
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  And so the letters had a different shape, well, the, the TAV and by the way, all the letters
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  had a meaning that went with every letter and in 2013, it's Israel's major information
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  source, news source, they wrote an article called the Amazing Hebrew Language and they
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  back this up.
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  I've got it all in my book that each letter has a meaning.
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  And so the, the alaf is the first letter and from ancient times it, it means when it's
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  used by itself as a, as a code, it means God himself.
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  He's the first.
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  The last letter, remember God says, I am the first in the last four times in the book
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  of Isaiah, I'm the first in the last, I am your Redeemer, I am your salvation.
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  He says the first in the last, the alaf in the top.
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  Now the TAV is in the shape of a crucifixion cross and it's, it's leaning just a little
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  bit as underweight.
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  Now, on the internet, you'll find people say, no, that's not true.
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  It's a plus sign, it's an X, absolutely false.
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  It is the oldest paleo artifacts we have and I've got pictures of them in the book.
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  The oldest ones, it is in the shape of a crucifixion cross.
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  It's not an X, it's not a plus sign.
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  That was changed in some manuscripts to get away from what my book is about, the unbelievers
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  and the Orthodox Jews that are unbelievers, they don't want this out.
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  And so, so the TAV is in the shape of the cross.
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  Now, it has, it's meaning, the alaf is the meaning God, okay?
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  The TAV means the covenant, the sign, the mark.
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  Now think of this.
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  When you put those two together and alaf TAV in Hebrew is a word.
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  It's called the et, and it's a, it's a, it's a grammar marker.
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  It's called the accusative case grammar marker.
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  50 languages of the world use something similar.
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  English doesn't, so I explained this in the book, but, but when the letters are together,
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  alaf TAV, they're, they're 11,000 times in the Old Testament and it points to the action
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  of the verb, but more importantly, God says, I am the alaf in the TAV.
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  Jesus says in the New Testament in Greek, I'm the alpha and the Omega, same thing.
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  I'm the alaf in the TAV, okay?
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  So, so what happens is the TAV, when you go to the first verse,
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  Berishit para eluhim et, you hear the et, okay?
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  Ha-shamaim ve'et ha-ret, I speak a little Hebrew as you know.
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  So, so that's in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth,
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  but in that one verse, in the opening verse, you drop down the TAV, the letter TAV from the words,
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  there are three of them.
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  The middle one is right under the et, God on the cross.
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  I am the Lord God that goes to the cross to make the covenant with you and this will be my sign.
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  That's what it means.
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  And it's in the first verse and it gets deeper than that, way deeper.
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  It goes all the way to the last words of the book of Revelation.
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  Very interesting, Carl.
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  Yeah, was there a time, did you know this years ago and just now decided to start writing about this,
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  bring out this book, or was there an aha moment where you saw this pattern in Scripture?
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  Yeah, both.
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  Some people had discovered long before me about the first verse and those three crosses and they were blown away by it.
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  I did some study, when I first saw it, I thought, well, that's coincidence.
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  Well, God showed me better than that.
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  He slapped me upside the head.
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  But anyway, so I started digging and so my first book, Yeshua Protocol, has a bunch of chapters on this,
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  plus a bunch of other prophetic things that are happening.
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  My next book, Eyes to See, has other chapters on this, my further discoveries, plus other things that are prophetic.
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  And then this book, Golgotha's Growning, it just goes from Genesis to Revelation because, yes,
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  I've known about it for years, but God, He keeps showing me.
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  My wife calls them downloads from heaven.
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  Messian and Rabbi Zef Perat, when I share him with these things, he says,
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  I've never seen this, this is unbelievable.
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  I've been on the internet looking for a lot of things that the Lord has shown me that's in black and white.
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  You cannot deny what you're seeing.
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  Now, if you want to say it's a coincidence, you can say that, but I've got perfect proof that it's not coincidence.
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  And we'll talk about that in a moment.
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  But so this book, I took the Greek New Testament under the deliche Greek to Hebrew translation,
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  this used in all the seminaries, all colleges, all the experts used that translation,
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  the Hebrew translation of the Greek.
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  And I thought, well, could these images be under the text about Golgotha in the New Testament?
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  Could those pictures of three crosses on a hill with Jesus in the middle,
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  made by the Hebrew letters? Could they be there?
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  And I started looking and they are there from Matthew to Revelation.
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  And listen, not just scattered around, right where they should be,
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  right where the crucifixions being talked about,
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  right where the crucifixions being talked about,
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  and the New Testament writers say, as the prophet Isaiah said,
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  or as the prophet said, or as Psalm 22 says, and when they say that, there it is.
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  It's in the text and way more than all of that.
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  We don't have time on this interview to talk about it,
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  but I can get to the proof of this in a moment if you want,
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  but that's the, believe it or not, the quick answer to your question.
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  Yes, well, unfortunately, that's what we have to do.
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  And I know people can get more if they go to your website, CarlGalab's.com,
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  or the book itself, Golgoth is groaning, we've got to take a brief pause.
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  So Carl, back to the book and I know where it's going by very fast today.
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  As I knew it would with you.
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  But I'll give you your choice on where to go next.
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  There's two different places in the book that I was curious about.
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  But the first one was the 12 supernatural words.
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  The other one would be Abraham's longest walk.
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  Two fascinating sections of the book and Gagatha's groaning.
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  So what would you like to touch on?
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  Well, the first one that you said, the 12 supernatural words, for sure.
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  Because that's what I was talking about.
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  That's my proof.
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  And again, Zepparat looked at this and he said,
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  Carl, this is 1000% proof that what you're seeing and what you're recording
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  has been supernaturally implanted there.
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  Now, there's no way to get around what I'm getting ready to tell folks next.
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  If they say, well, I don't believe that.
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  Well, that's in your mind then because not only is it in the Bible in plain text,
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  it's also there in picture and it's also illustrated in the book and it's also backed up by
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  scholarship. He brews scholarship.
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  So I mean, if you don't want to accept the proof, that's up to you.
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  But here's the proof.
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  So take that first verse again.
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  Beresheet.
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  Okay.
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  That's the first word.
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  Beresheet.
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  Well, if you listen to that in Hebrew, there are seven words that say that.
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  Okay.
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  Seven.
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  Beresheet.
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  Barah.
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  El-Him.
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  Et.
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  Ha-Shamayin.
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  Ve'et.
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  Ha-Ret.
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  Seven.
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  Okay.
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  But in English, it's 10 words.
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  In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
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  But the first word, Beresheet, makes up three of our English words.
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  There are only six consonants with vowel sounds, but six letters
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  of the Hebrew alphabet in the word Beresheet.
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  Only six.
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  But out of those six letters, and you'll see it with your eyes,
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  Zepparat has verified it.
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  It's his language.
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  It's his words.
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  He knows.
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  And he said, you're right.
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  In fact, he showed me something about it that I'll share with your folks.
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  But anyway, when you look at those six letters,
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  not a letter scramble, but in order, in symmetrical order,
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  there are 12 other Hebrew words.
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  It's like our English word content, for example.
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  I see the word Con, C-O-N.
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  I see the word Tent, T-E-N-T.
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  I see the word Ten, T-E-N.
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  You see what I'm saying?
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  I'm not scrambling the letters.
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  The words are just there.
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  Con, Ten, Con, Tent.
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  Okay.
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  Now, in Beresheet, it's the same thing.
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  You said there are 12 Hebrew words that are all used in the Old Testament.
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  And I've got the actual scriptures where they're used.
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  Zebsel one that pointed that out to me.
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  When I showed him the 12 words, he said,
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  call every one of those words are used in the Old Testament.
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  And so I said, okay, well, we're on to something, but more than that,
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  the 12 words spell out a message.
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  You take the words and it spells out the message.
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  Now, we're running out of time.
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  So let me tell you where your folks can right now go read the synopsis
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  where all 12 of those words synonyms in the Greek
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  are used by the Apostle Paul in one of the most famous passages he ever wrote.
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  It's Colossians chapter 1 verse 15 through 20.
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  I'm going to have to paraphrase very quickly.
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  I don't have it in front of me.
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  But it says, Jesus, he is the image of the invisible God.
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  And through him, he created the universe, things seen, things unseen.
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  Everything that's been created is created by him for him.
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  And in him, all things to get holds together.
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  He is the head of the church, the house of God.
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  And through him and his shed blood, he made peace with God on the cross.
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  Those 12 words in symmetrical order say that very same thing.
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  And Paul must have known it or either the Holy Spirit just gave it to him,
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  because Paul doesn't say, by the words, this, by the way, this truth comes from 12 words from the
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  first letter. He doesn't say that. He just says that as truth.
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  But it comes from the 12 words of the first word of Genesis 1.
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  Now think of this.
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  We already know there's three crosses on the hill with Jesus in the middle,
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  a picture of it in Genesis 1.
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  If that was the only place in the Bible where that existed, I would say that's pure coincidence.
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  But it's from Genesis to Revelation.
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  And the first word confirms it with the message that's written out.
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  It's like God's saying, look,
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  believe that Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation.
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  Believe it from the text.
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  Believe it from the first verse.
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  But if you can't believe that, then I'll draw you a picture of it.
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  Three crosses with Jesus on the middle.
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  And if you can't believe that, look at the 12 words in the first word.
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  And it spells out the whole story, the whole truth of what you're looking at.
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  This is humanly impossible, brother.
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  And these kinds of phenomena are from Genesis 1 to Revelation 22.
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  My book has illustrations of it all.
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  Well, humanly impossible, of course.
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  You know, God is His ways, our love, our ways.
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  Yeah.
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  So you know, you write a lot in other books too about prophetic implications in the end time.
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  So what's the connection between Galgotha and end times fulfillment of prophecy?
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  Well, there's several huge connections.
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  And again, I'm going to make this quick.
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  You can read, folks can read the book and see the depth of it all.
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  But the bottom line is, this is supernaturally impossible.
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  There's no other book on the planet that has anything like this.
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  Much less the 50 prophecies of the return of Israel from Deuteronomy to Zachariah.
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  Much less the 300 and something prophecies of the coming Christ,
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  everything that He would suffer, everything that He would do,
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  everything that would happen, plus He would be raised again.
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  All of that's in the Old Testament.
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  So the prophetic significance is, since all of that is true.
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  And almost all the prophecies have already been fulfilled except for the very end times.
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  Guess what's going to be fulfilled, the very end times.
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  There's no way it's not.
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  And it's going to happen like God's Word says.
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  So you can trust the words of that book, of course.
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  There is no other religious book, any book on the planet that has anything like this.
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  I have challenged people now for years on media, in conferences.
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  Please show me another book, name another book that does this.
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  No one can, because it doesn't exist anywhere except the Word of God.
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  Plus, it also shows us that the whole message of God's Word,
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  from Genesis where the fall took place, to Revelation where everything is made new,
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  all through it is the picture of Golgotha.
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  Golgotha is the most cataclysmic event that the world has ever seen.
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  The calendars of the world were changed to market.
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  It shook the world, it's still shaking the world.
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  And Satan hates it.
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  He is in the process, Revelation 12-12.
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  Woe unto you, earthen those days, because Satan is filled with rage,
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  because he knows his time is short.
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  Amen, brother.
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  Amen. There are so many other things as well that connect from Genesis to Revelation,
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  all the way through.
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  I mean, the story of redemption, the Bible is cohesive and contextual.
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  And if it's connected with all the, how many authors, 40 authors, 1500...
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  Over 40 authors, over 1500 years, 66 books.
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  Four different continents, these documents were written on.
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  I mean, most of the people, most of the guys didn't even know each other.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, truly miraculous.
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  Truly miraculous.
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  Is it a Holy Spirit-inspired book, God-breed book?
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  Carl, in the last couple of minutes,
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  we're approaching Christmas season,
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  and we are so thankful that the Word became flesh,
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  and Jesus fulfilled what the Father had planned for him to do.
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  I'm just speaking to that for a moment, with your pastor's heart,
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  for a few minutes, just to encourage our brothers and sisters.
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  I preach and teach on that a lot.
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  And what you just said also has, in those verses,
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  it has three crosses on the hill, and it's crazy.
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  But not only that, there's so much more hidden,
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  but yet now being revealed, messaging in those.
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  Like John 1, verse 1, in the beginning,
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  in the beginning, get that, was the Word.
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  And the Word was with God and the Word was God.
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  And then that Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
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  And in him, we saw the glory of the Father, the One, and only from it.
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  Okay.
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  So we know what we're talking about here.
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  I mean, there, Jesus is identified as the Word that became flesh.
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  Why?
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  Like Apostle Paul says in Galatians 4-4,
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  he said, at just the right time,
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  yes, God sent forth his Son at the right time.
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  And I dig to all what that means, pull all of that together
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  and show people, and they freak out when they see it.
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  I mean, down to the second, when he said it is finished,
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  it fulfilled prophecy, and everything going on in the world around him.
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  So that's what it's all about, brother.
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  That's what Christmas is.
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  It's not, you know, the little trappings that we do in our secular world.
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  It is about Golgata.
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  God did fix this.
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  He did destroy Satan's kingdom.
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  He did bring it to an end.
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  It is finished.
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  And the new is on its way.
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  Amen.
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  So encouraging.
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  And just just to remember, friends, we are like,
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  you referred to it a minute ago,
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  that we are kind of bombarded by secularism and, you know,
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  very weak and meaningless displays, decorations,
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  a shot being, and jingle bells, and Santa Claus,
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  and all these things that have nothing to do with the divine plan,
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  the Word of God, the Word became flesh, Jesus.
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  And he is sitting at the right hand of the Father right now,
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  and he is returning.
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  Carl, we've got one minute left.
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  I want to make sure that people can go to Carlgallops.com.
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  Anything else you'd like to share in a minute, brother?
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  Just that I really appreciate you having me back on.
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  And it's good to be with you again, my friend, my brother.
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  I pray we can do more revelations from the Word of God together.
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  But yeah, just, yeah, folks, just go to Carlgallops.com
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  and, you know, everything is right there on one page.
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  It's all archived, sermons, radio shows, other things.
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  So you'll, I think you'll enjoy it.
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  Once people see it, they write me and say,
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  oh my gosh, I had no idea this website was like this.
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  Thank you.
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  Praise God.
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  And shout out to Defender Publishing, good people there,
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  and congrats on the new book, Carl.
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  Have a very Merry Christmas, sir.
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  Thank you so much for your time.
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  It's my pleasure.
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  God bless you, brother.
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  Blessings.
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  Friends, thank you so much for your prayers and your support.
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  God bless you.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.