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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are doing an
- 0:10Speaker 1: extra podcast on the disappearance of Susanne Morphew because there's
- 0:15Speaker 1: so much evidence happne. So developing very quickly to Chris
- 0:19Speaker 1: McDonough and Mike King, what have we missed? Chris, go ahead,
- 0:25Speaker 1: So and Saw I have a fun conversation with Jane
- 0:29Speaker 1: Mormon and the family. And this is kind of what
- 0:33Speaker 1: one of the red flags that really kicked Andy into
- 0:36Speaker 1: gear to put this church together. So a call essentially
- 0:40Speaker 1: was this very called Jeane shortly thereafter Susanne's smissing and
- 0:48Speaker 1: he says, and I quote because I wrote it down.
- 0:52Speaker 1: He says, Jean, you know I loved your daughter. Past tense,
- 0:58Speaker 1: he says, it doesn't look like she's coming back, but
- 1:01Speaker 1: I need you to sign off some guardianship paperwork and
- 1:05Speaker 1: Jean's option and says, what do you mean you loved
- 1:09Speaker 1: my daughter? And that was really a huge red flag
- 1:15Speaker 1: for the Mormon family that kind of kicked him into gear.
- 1:19Speaker 1: And at that time he was looking to have some
- 1:22Speaker 1: gartnership paperwork signed off by teen declaring her dead, and
- 1:28Speaker 1: he wouldn't do it. So this is barrymoreph you calling
- 1:32Speaker 1: the mom or the dad of Susanne mom is deceased.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Nancy dad is living fighting cancer. The eighty seven year
- 1:41Speaker 1: old father. When was that phone call? May I ask
- 1:45Speaker 1: Chris mcdonnaugh so English within two weeks after her disappearance.
- 1:51Speaker 1: He didn't remember the exact date, but it was during
- 1:55Speaker 1: the time he was trying to get a guardnership where
- 1:58Speaker 1: one of the other daughter I believe retain an attorney
- 2:03Speaker 1: and at some point I believe guardianship was shilling to
- 2:08Speaker 1: the daughter would subsequently now has resulted in the ability
- 2:13Speaker 1: to show the home. Guys, we were talking about a
- 2:17Speaker 1: lot of developments in a Susanne Morephe search. Take a
- 2:21Speaker 1: listen to our cut thirty five Andy Morman, and this
- 2:25Speaker 1: is Suzanne's brother speaking to our friend doctor Phil. We
- 2:29Speaker 1: found the bicycle at the bottom of a Roupne and
- 2:32Speaker 1: my brother in law's a really good hunter and an
- 2:34Speaker 1: expert tracker, and he thought that maybe Susanne had ridden
- 2:38Speaker 1: over the side of that got an injured, disorientated and
- 2:41Speaker 1: fallen into the river, and or a bobcat had attacked her. Well,
- 2:46Speaker 1: I stood on that bank of that road and I
- 2:48Speaker 1: looked down and I thought to myself, No, that didn't happen.
- 2:52Speaker 1: There's no blood trail, and if I had ridden a
- 2:55Speaker 1: bike over there, it would have been prettalized and my
- 2:59Speaker 1: knuckles would have been amburgerized. So no blood, no things
- 3:03Speaker 1: of that nature. So I told him, must have very Look,
- 3:06Speaker 1: she didn't get taken by a puma. The no mountain
- 3:08Speaker 1: line involved here. He actually like he didn't want to
- 3:11Speaker 1: hear about but he finally came to the realization that
- 3:14Speaker 1: everybody else realized that didn't happen. You know, I can't help,
- 3:18Speaker 1: but ask Ellen colorin Crime online dot Com investigative reporter,
- 3:24Speaker 1: why is the brother leading the search for Susanne Morphy?
- 3:28Speaker 1: Why is it the brother and not the husband? Nancy,
- 3:31Speaker 1: I have the same question, not only that, not only
- 3:34Speaker 1: why is the brother the one who's the public facing
- 3:37Speaker 1: Let's find Susanne Morphey versus husband. Why now? What happened?
- 3:43Speaker 1: It's been five months since she vanished. We didn't hear
- 3:47Speaker 1: from any of Susanne's family members for the first few
- 3:52Speaker 1: months of the investigation, except for the nephew, who has
- 3:56Speaker 1: gone completely radio silent since the first weeks she was missing.
- 4:02Speaker 1: What made Andy Morman now decide to launch a large
- 4:09Speaker 1: scale volunteer search of the same area that investigators had
- 4:13Speaker 1: already covered. And why is he now signaling that he
- 4:18Speaker 1: might not be on the same page as investigators. What
- 4:22Speaker 1: should we interpret from that? I would really like to
- 4:25Speaker 1: ask him, what change? Why now? What about it my
- 4:29Speaker 1: king profiling evil dot com? Why now with Mormon? Yeah,
- 4:34Speaker 1: it's amazing to us, and we were so proud of
- 4:36Speaker 1: him for stepping up and doing something that hadn't been
- 4:38Speaker 1: done locally. We have the same question that you have.
- 4:42Speaker 1: We used the example of Elizabeth smartcase and Ed Smart
- 4:47Speaker 1: who was immediately looked at as a potential suspect in
- 4:50Speaker 1: that case, but still every single day he was in
- 4:55Speaker 1: front of the press saying, help me find my daughter.
- 4:58Speaker 1: I don't know why people do things that they do,
- 5:00Speaker 1: but I do like to look at behavior, and that
- 5:04Speaker 1: seems odd to me that a brother has to come
- 5:08Speaker 1: up three months later when he finds out that according
- 5:11Speaker 1: to him that polygraphs were refused and voice stress was
- 5:15Speaker 1: refused and decides it's not time to take it into
- 5:18Speaker 1: my own hands. And we were just so proud to
- 5:20Speaker 1: be able to step up and provide support to him
- 5:23Speaker 1: when he called us. Climb Stories with Nancy Grace speaking
- 5:37Speaker 1: of the brother Andy Mormon. Take listen to our cut
- 5:41Speaker 1: forty two. It's Andy on KDVRTV Morning show. A backted Saturday,
- 5:47Speaker 1: not Sunday. I don't think she ever got on her bicycle.
- 5:50Speaker 1: If you want the truth of the matter, I expect
- 5:54Speaker 1: that she was killed and hidden somewhere in the mountains
- 6:00Speaker 1: and her husband not involved in this search. Have you
- 6:03Speaker 1: talked to him? What's the relationship there? I have not
- 6:06Speaker 1: talked to him. He was invited into the search by
- 6:08Speaker 1: Profiling Evil and he did not respond. We ran into
- 6:13Speaker 1: him yesterday and he was out hanging trail cams with
- 6:16Speaker 1: a shotgun on his shoulder and just kind of told us,
- 6:19Speaker 1: you know, hey, you're about to step on private property.
- 6:23Speaker 1: So we turned around and went back. We did uncover
- 6:27Speaker 1: some things on that mountaintop close to the home yesterday
- 6:30Speaker 1: that are being processed by CBI and the Sheriff's department,
- 6:35Speaker 1: and we hope to find more today. Do you think
- 6:38Speaker 1: anyone would want to hurt Susanne? No, I really don't.
- 6:42Speaker 1: I'm afraid this is domestic abuse. To be honest with
- 6:45Speaker 1: you again, no one has been named a suspect. To
- 6:51Speaker 1: Mike King on Profiling Evil dot Com, do I understand
- 6:55Speaker 1: Andy Mormon, this is Suzanne's brother, to say he was
- 7:00Speaker 1: out leading a search that he found items on the
- 7:04Speaker 1: top of a mountain that had been handed over to
- 7:06Speaker 1: the CBI called Audiberi investigation, and that during the search
- 7:11Speaker 1: they ran into Barrymorephy, the husband who directed them, warned
- 7:16Speaker 1: than that they were getting on private property and were
- 7:21Speaker 1: turned away. That was the report that we received from
- 7:24Speaker 1: Andy directly, and he had first had knowledge of that.
- 7:28Speaker 1: The other thing that was impressive about that was that Andy,
- 7:31Speaker 1: because of the organized search that he put together, there
- 7:34Speaker 1: were like seven hundred people over the course of five
- 7:37Speaker 1: days that showed up to search for this guy. That
- 7:40Speaker 1: they uncovered pieces of evidence and had people come forward,
- 7:44Speaker 1: that testimony was provided and those witnesses were provided to
- 7:47Speaker 1: law enforcement as well as several pieces of evidence that
- 7:51Speaker 1: they passed on. And so you know, some people who
- 7:54Speaker 1: have suggested, well, maybe it wasn't a successful search, and
- 7:56Speaker 1: from our perspective, not only did it help Andy with
- 8:00Speaker 1: with doing everything he could possibly do, but they uncovered
- 8:03Speaker 1: things that law enforcement came out and secured scenes and
- 8:07Speaker 1: process and that's no small things. Do you have any
- 8:11Speaker 1: idea what were the items recovered Mike, Yeah, we do, Nancy,
- 8:15Speaker 1: and we were asked not to share that, and so
- 8:19Speaker 1: that was passed on and law enforcement took that over
- 8:22Speaker 1: an item, a personal item near the scene. What item
- 8:26Speaker 1: was that, Mike. We've heard all kinds of different speculation,
- 8:30Speaker 1: and that's what it would be at this point. We've
- 8:32Speaker 1: never heard law enforcement step up and say what it was,
- 8:36Speaker 1: and the speculation has been around was it a cell
- 8:38Speaker 1: phone or was it a helmet or an article of clothing.
- 8:41Speaker 1: I think somewhere along the line I heard that the
- 8:44Speaker 1: cell phone was excluded as that piece of property that
- 8:47Speaker 1: was discovered, but frankly, we just don't know. Take a
- 8:51Speaker 1: listen to our cut forty five. This is Lauren Sharp
- 8:54Speaker 1: Fox twenty one for the first time, responding to allegations
- 8:58Speaker 1: made by Suzanne's side of the family that he refused
- 9:01Speaker 1: polygraph saying, I've never been asked to do a polygraph.
- 9:05Speaker 1: There is nothing that I'm hiding. I have given three
- 9:08Speaker 1: thirty hours of testimony to the FBI and the CBI.
- 9:12Speaker 1: I've answered every question, every single question. Private investigator Dan Corcentino,
- 9:17Speaker 1: who's worked in law enforcement for twenty five years and
- 9:20Speaker 1: was a former Pueblo County sheriff and Fountain Police chief says,
- 9:23Speaker 1: even if a person is asked to submit to a polygraph,
- 9:27Speaker 1: it could be reasonable for that person to refuse. A
- 9:30Speaker 1: investigator may offer a polygraph only to have the subject
- 9:35Speaker 1: or the personal interest refuse it based on legal vice,
- 9:39Speaker 1: knowing the polygraph is not admissible in a courtroom. So therefore,
- 9:45Speaker 1: what's the use of taken it. Also during our call,
- 9:48Speaker 1: Berry explained what he called an inconsistency with one timeline
- 9:52Speaker 1: in what he told investigators. Quote, it was only because
- 9:55Speaker 1: I didn't know the time that I did something a
- 9:57Speaker 1: mechanical thing to my Bobcat. I was confused and I
- 10:00Speaker 1: just found out my wife was missing. Lauren Sharff has
- 10:03Speaker 1: he been asked to take a polygraph? Law enforcement has not,
- 10:07Speaker 1: you know, confirmed that with us. But I mean I've
- 10:10Speaker 1: spoken to employees and they've all told me that they
- 10:14Speaker 1: have been asked to take a polygraph. What about it?
- 10:17Speaker 1: Chris mcdonna, profiling evil dot Com. Has the husband been
- 10:21Speaker 1: asked to take a polygraph? Yeah? You know, And Andy's
- 10:23Speaker 1: whole a very interesting statement from Andy when he showed
- 10:28Speaker 1: that with Mike and I he made it. His comment
- 10:31Speaker 1: was the CVI had told them that he refused to
- 10:35Speaker 1: take a poly and a CVSA. Now only a cop
- 10:41Speaker 1: would have said CVSA, because Andy asked me, what is
- 10:45Speaker 1: a CVSA, which is a computer voice personnelis test when
- 10:48Speaker 1: he was basically the sister to the polygraph. So when
- 10:52Speaker 1: he said that, I believe that you know there's somebody
- 10:57Speaker 1: from the investigative team had mentioned that to Andy, although
- 11:00Speaker 1: we have not heard of firsthand from the investigators. I
- 11:04Speaker 1: can't stress enough that there is no suspect name and
- 11:09Speaker 1: that Barrymorephe insists that he is innocent. The house is
- 11:14Speaker 1: now up for sale. We'll see what happens with that.
- 11:18Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfalls. Fancy Grace Crime Story Signing off,
- 11:22Speaker 1: gidbye I said