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Ohio State Lands Former Alabama Offensive Lineman In Transfer Portal · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Hello, everybody, Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes tomorrow morning
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for Sunday, January seventh. We're a little earlier than normal. That's okay.
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News is happening right now, so we're going to talk about it right
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now. The Akron game is in two hundred and thirty seven days, the
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game against Michigan in three hundred and twenty eight days. That news. The
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Buckeyes have added another player in the transfer portal. Earlier in the week,
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it was former Kansas State quarterback Will Howard. Today it is former Alabama offensive
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lineman Seth McLaughlin, who has committed to Ohio State, bolstering what is a
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fairly thin unit on the Ohio State team. This is a player who's you
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probably were thinking about less than a week ago during Alabama's Rose Bowl game against
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Michigan, and now he's a Buck guy. I'm joining b Kevin Noon of
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bucke Huddle dot Com. Kevin, I guess the first reaction from everyone is,
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I'm almost undoubtedly going to be this is the guy who had the bad
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snaps in the Rose Bowl. Why does Ohio State want this guy? So?
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Why does Ohio State want this guy? Well, first and foremost the
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guard. Is he a center. I mean, you're bringing in a guy
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who's a fifthier senior, who has twenty five starts at Alabama sixs four to
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three h five, big body. He's somebody who's been to the fair and
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seen the bear and on an offensive line that maybe isn't as papered in terms
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of its experience. I think this is an important I think this is a
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huge get for Ohio State. We can sort out the details later, and
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people certainly can go through and talk about the fact that the last memory everybody
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has of him is that low snap to Taylor Milroe in overtime that forced a
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bad decision to run it up the middle and sent that hated team up north
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to the championship game where they'll hopefully get dumped by Washington. But you know,
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that's another show for us. It's you know, if you put him
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in at center, he's somebody who could make your line calls. He could
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do all of the those types of things. I think that's important. If
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you put a mcguard dilwaiting a decision on Donovan Jackson, what is he going
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to do at this point? But it really you know, you said bolster
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And I just wrote the story for Buckeyeheddel and I use the word bolster too,
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because he really bolsters this offensive line, and I think it gives you
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a little bit more flexibility and trying to decide how you're going to move forward.
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Does Ohio State get another lineman in the portal? I don't know.
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But once you start to put together the pieces with Josh Simmons and Josh Bryer
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and try and figure out and you know, as I said, Donovan Jackson
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and how you're going to fit it together, I think that it takes an
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oh State offensive line that was maybe not all that it could be in twenty
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three and it's a big step towards twenty four. Well, it's at the
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very least, this is the same conversation we had with Will Howard. This
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a very least raises the floor for Ohio State in twenty twenty four because you
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had Carson Hintzman not playing in the bowl game, and Ryan Day said it
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was a result of just some subpar practices in the month of December. Now
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you have another guy on the team. You saw what it looked like when
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you didn't have one of your starting five during that Cotton Bowl. Matt Johnson
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moves over to center, it goes kind of okay, enich from me.
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He goes in at right guard, it goes not really okay. And the
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offense looked like what the offense looked like during the Cotton Bowl when everyone said,
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well, you can't run that back and so you need to bring in
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more guys. This is it feels like step one of that process. I
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am going to guess this is not going to be the last transfer offensive lineman
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they bring in this cycle, because if you look at last year's team coming
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out of spring ball, Ryan they talked about the offensive line being the biggest
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concern they had. They brought in Josh Shimmons. They still throughout the course
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of the year were not at all happy with their depth that they felt.
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I think like they had kind of five guys who could play, who were
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ready to play. Last year, you're losing You lost Matt Jones to the
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NFL Draft, So now you're down to four guys. I think you're probably
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going to see some growth in progress from guys like Luke Montgomery, for example,
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who may you know, there's been sort of the theory that he maybe
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steps in at right guard, you kick Josh Bryer over to Montgomery steps at
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right tackle. You kick Josh Bryer over the right guard. Maybe that's a
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solution. Get taker Shapola on the team. He got other guys on the
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team who they have talked about. And you know, it looked like zen
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Mahalsky was going to be in the running for a starting job last year and
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then that didn't really happen. So is you know, can zen Mahalsky get
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himself back on a you know, the trajectory that you thought he was on.
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But at this point, it feels like they're just sort of assembling as
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many pieces as they can because you are not going to hit on one hundred
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percent of your offensive line players. That's just that you do not have,
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you know, you know, first team All American Outland Award candidates in the
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transfer portal with three years of eligibility left. That's just not the kind of
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players you're pulling out of the portal. But if they can pull out more
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options, more viable options. And as you said, he started for two
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years for Nick Saban, so you know too, you know, a game
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worth with a few bad snaps does not completely render the previous two years of
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starting for Nick Saban as you know, irrelevant or nothing. This is this
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is a player who at least I think raises the floor for what this offensive
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line could be in twenty twenty four. Absolutely, And you know, I
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think people are going to point out people love to look at like the CFF
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grades and look at them as law when it proves their point, and just
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completely disputes them when it doesn't prove their point. And they're going to be
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like, you know, he, you know, he didn't you know,
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he had a bad year in twenty three compared to twenty two and twenty one.
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I think sometimes the change of you know, change of scenery helps things
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out. I mean, you know, golfers go through all sorts of things
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when it comes to trying to take care of the gyips. You know,
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we use that term a lot. He has the yips. I think that,
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you know, I think that change the scenery, if he does play
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center, certainly good help at that point. I think you you're able to
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blow things down, think things through, and you know, I think we
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know that, you know, bad things kind of build upon bad things,
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and if you have a bad game, then you go back and you overthink
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it and then you it just kind of continues and so on and so forth.
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So bringing a guy who is accomplished in seth McLoughlin is very big.
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And I think that when you know obviously part of being a center one of
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the biggest parts of snapping the ball, but another big part is you know
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your your past protection and things there. He's given up one sack in his
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career. He's given up one sack. And I think that when you thrust
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Carson Hinsman out there, and center was a new position for Carson Hinson.
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We did not come up high school ranks as a center, and he had
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some problems with his pass pro. Now you have a guy in the middle,
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whether it's at guard or center, who's got that pass pro. When
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you bring in a very large quarterback in Will Howard, and that's a big
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thing there with Will Howard as a running quarterback. And when both were set
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to visit, they were both they followed each other immediately on the socials and
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all the Internet slouths were like, well these a vis this means that this
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is going to happen well or one for the Internet sloops, because it certainly
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seemed to happen at this point because they're both in the class, and it
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has me wondering what else I need to go back and look at, because
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maybe we can find out what the rest of the portal is going to look
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like, if there's any truth to that. Yeah, every once in a
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while, the plane trackers are right. Every once in a while, these
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social media trackers are right. This seems like a score one for the social
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media trackers. Carson Hinzman, the conversation around him is so interesting because I
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think he and probably a lot of folks are on the program, would tell
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you kind of got thrown into this position, the starting position a year earlier
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than expected. The decision by Luke Whippler to leave after last season at the
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time was pretty surprising and it caught not just media folks but also the coaching
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staff off guard. When Luke Whipler decided to leave after the twenty twenty two
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season, that feels like a decision that had negative impact, negative impacts,
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negative repercussions in just about every direction. Whippler really has not played this year
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with the Cleveland Browns, and it threw Carson Hinsman into that starting center job
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a year earlier than he probably was truly ready for He was just a little
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undersized, a little under you know, just hadn't had the full development curve
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that you typically have playing as a red shirt freshman as a starter in the
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middle of that offensive line, and did a solid, respectable job, I
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would say for much of the season, especially given some of that context.
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What is he going to look like next year? I think, you know,
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if you get through you get through the practice issues he had in December,
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maybe he's perfectly fine and then maybe that makes a glove on the guard.
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There was a question in the in the live chat is he going to
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stay at center or is he going to get moved to guard? And the
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answer is we'll all find out together this spring and this summer, because there's
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a lot of moving pieces here, is McLoughlin. You know, are those
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snap issues going to be things that get sorted out? Is Hinsman's issues?
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Are those going to be stuff that get sorted out? Both of them are
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you know, they're not huge guys, they're not super you know, they're
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not just the prototypical road greater guard model that you typically would think of.
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Some of this is going to depend also Kevin Donovan Jackson. What does Donovan
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Jackson do? Because if Donovan Jackson leaves, then they have two open guard
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spots. If donov Jackson comes back, then they have one and maybe that
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opens you know, that is something where you do move Josh Bryer over to
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guard. And then oh, by the way, there's the the football football
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Scoop or whatever it was report on that some big changes are coming to the
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Ohio State coaching staff. You know, we had heard coach taking changes were
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coming, but the question was sort of the order of magnitude. The report
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from Football Scoop on Friday said that the Ohio State is bringing in a new
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offensive coordinator to run the offense and actual offensive coordinator, and that person is
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going to have sort of some say over who else. You know, if
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there are other changes made on the offensive coaching staff. Brian Hartlin sounds like
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he's safe. Everyone else sounds like they're at least going to be evaluated.
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And a new offensive line coach Kevin might have a different view on who should
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play center, who should play guard, who they should bring in in the
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portal, and all of this other stuff. So many points here that I
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want to address because you brought up a lot of really good points, a
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little bit of a little bit of my own internet sleuthing. I wrote the
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stories I said on tatianmaclaughlin committing to Ohio State. Somebody who liked it Donovan
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Jackson's father. So you know, take it for what it's worth. Does
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that mean, Oh, the program that we've been rooting for will be in
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good hands when Donovan leaves or Donovan will have another really you know, known
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linement on the offensive line to help bolster that word again, bolster things.
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So you know, take that for what it's worth. As for the football
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scoop news, Yeah, you've got to really wonder what that's going to look
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like. Because over on the huddle message board over at bucke huddle dot com
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site that you should all be members of by now, and if not,
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why the hell not get over there to buckey huddle dot com and check us
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out. People were getting a little disheartened that heads weren't on the ground already,
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that the guillotine was not soaked in blood, and that there were not
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all of these coaching changes that had occurred yet, and oh, we're not
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going to see any of them. And then lo and behold the football scoop
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story comes out, who operates, be patient, moves are coming, and
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maybe even takes it a little bit further to the point of saying that you
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know it's going to be it's going to be a significant change and something up
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internally in I don't know, I have a lot of text message breads going
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on. But excuse me. Sitting in Dallas, Eli Drinkowitz, Ryan Day
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both sitting on the stage and Eli Drinkwitz talks about that he had to kind
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of check his ego and give up play calling and everything else, and Ryan's
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sitting three feet away from him, and there have been a lot of cries
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from Ohio State fans about you needs. You know, the successful coaches are
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in more of a CEO role that they can be focused on a lot of
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things that not you know, not completely focused on one thing like play calling.
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Have a guy upstairs who can see the field and make these play calls.
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You know, what's that all going to be? Like? Well,
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it seems that Ryan Day, whether it was by design or whether it was
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just as a result of that Cotton Bowl game, seems to be going down
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that path. And I think that's important And if you do get this oc
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who can kind of be the head coach of the offense as Jim Knowles is
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the head coach of the deep, and then Ryan Day can be your head
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coach. I think, you know, I think that you know, nobody
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wanted, nobody ever wants to go through that Cotton Bowl situation again, three
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points for the game, everything else. But if you can get some good
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out of a bad and it sounds like some good can be happening in terms
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of the trajectory of where things are going, Yeah, it does. It
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does feel like there's it's definitely going to be a different Ohio State team next
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year. And it feels like the Day giving up play calling is something that
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I think it felt like a year ago he sort of recognized he probably needed
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to do, and then I don't know if he felt he, you know,
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Brian Hartline was ready to be that play caller. And if you're bringing
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in someone from the outside, I think that's a pretty good indication that he
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does not feel that Brian Hartline was truly ready to be that play caller.
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So now you're sort of taking that necessary step. I'm with you. I
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was sitting at that in that press conference and listening to Eli Drinkle to answer
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this question and thinking, boy, I know he's answering this question because he
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was asked this question, but this also also feels like one of those questions
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where it's like a secret audience of one and that one is sitting at the
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dais with him listening to him answer this question about how the change that Ryan
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Day considered making a year ago and the Dli drink Woods actually made a year
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ago was this incredibly positive thing for the Missouri program and for Drinkwots himself.
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And you know, then you have the gameplay out the way that it did,
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and it was just, boy, it just could not have gone much
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worse for the Ohio State offense. So yeah, I'm not surprised that this
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is happening. Now. If you go back and listen to our post game
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show, I think you're gonna hear us talking an awful lot about some of
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these things that you know, boy, I think you need to make you
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need to think about some more significant structural changes. I'm a little surprised that
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they are apparently going to get made. And as far as the timing on
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all of this stuff, why, you know, why has this not happened
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yet? Why is this you know, going to be a week from now
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the AFCA Convention American Football Coaches Association Convention, which is the big national college
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football coaches convention that's happening in Nashville starting tomorrow through the tenth. That is
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where a lot of the sausage gets made in the college football coaching world.
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And it is not just you know, oh look, it's all the Power
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five coaches and the position coaches. It is everyone down to an AIA coaches,
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Division three coaches, all that kind of stuff. I've heard people discuss
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it as you will see a lot of people walking around in polo shirts and
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have no idea what what le logo is. So, but that's where a
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lot of those decisions get made. And I think Kevin as far as why
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some of the potential departures haven't been announced, I go back to urban Meyer
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and urban Meyer's pride in never having fired a coach. And you know,
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if a coach is going to leave, you want to give them sort of
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the fig leaf of well, I you know, I left to go take
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another job. So if you're a position coach and you are, you know
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it's been made clear to you that you're probably not going to be back next
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year. You go to AFC, you go get a position, coaching job
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somewhere else, and then you weren't fired, you left for another position,
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And it's just sort of like a professional courtesy thing almost within the coaching realm.
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And you know, it's something that I think is also probably appreciated.
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I'm sure there are people who are saying, well, who cares what so
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and so thinks. It's something that when you're hiring people, if you have
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a reputation for sort of taking care of your people and not just being a
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hair trigger you know, one bad game, fire every one kind of person,
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that is probably good in terms of when you are then doing the hiring
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for the next round and the round after that, right exactly. And something
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that's been brought up too is that a lot of these coaches that are in
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question, to say that in question are coming off of one year deals.
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So it's not even necessarily that there's a firing. There's not going to be
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a buyout, there's not going to be any of that. It's just going
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to be a non renewal. But I certainly would like to go work for
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an organization where I know that there is some sort of care about the employees
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and or the subordinates, if you will, and if you just sit there
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and you you you, you toss everybody out after after two or three years.
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I don't know if I'm really that excited about that when you know,
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if I'm if I'm a hot coach in terms of you know, what my
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resume is or whatever, and I've got a lot of similar offers out there,
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and I know this one guy is kind of a little bit of a
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loose cannon in terms of how he handles personnel. I'm gonna think twice about
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it. And and again, it's it's it's really easy. People look at
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you know, people look at the football players out there and assume that they're
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playing n C two A video games or whatever, and they're not people and
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they don't have lives. And I think the same thing holds true for coaches.
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I'm not here advocating for anybody to lose a source of income. And
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you know, it's tough out there. It's it's it's tough out there.
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Yes, these guys are well compensated, but they work their butts off.
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I mean, it's a lot of it's a lot of stress it's a lot
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of time away from their family. There's a way of wanting to there's a
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way to have the coaching changes you want without without having Bloody Monday happening or
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anything like that. And you know, Bloody Monday, it's funny you use
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that term. Bloody Monday is the general term for the Monday after the NFL
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NFL season ends, which the NFL regular season ends this Sunday, So bloody
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Monday in the NFL is next Monday. That is when most NFL teams.
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There are certain teams who have already have open coaching positions. Chargers, Raiders
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I think is open. Yeah, a couple others may be just trying to
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think of all the places Jim Harbaugh has been linked. I know Chargers and
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Raiders for sure, but yeah, there are that's that is coming up on
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Monday. And then you know you're not hiring an NFL coach probably right now.
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You're going to hire them next week after the NFL regular season ends,
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or in some cases after their play their team's playoff run is over. So
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these these decisions may kind of trickle out over the next few weeks. Generally,
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we get a pretty good sense if you know there is a head coach,
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if there's an NFL coach who is still stuck with his NFL team who
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is headed towards Ohios, that we generally have a sense for, that is
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a move that is going to happen, that is going to be announced soon.
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Whenever that happens. So again, I might want to hang out at
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Bucky Huddle dot com. We'll have probably some decent probably some decent information on
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that in the coming weeks. Just a couple wanted to hit a couple questions
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that we had in there. Dale says only had five viable offensive linemen last
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year and need ten and twenty twenty four. Good start plug him in and
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figure out right tackle. That's very clearly. I think they very clearly are
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recognizing based on the number of people that they've brought in. They've already brought
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in two guys for visits this week, potential transfer portal guys. I am
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expecting this to not be the only person they bring in. They've lost Matt
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Jones Donovan Jackson to the NFL, which we knew. Donovan Jackson's and NFL
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draft decision has not been announced yet. We'll see if he comes back,
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but if he does come back, that's another you know, that's another solid
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piece in the middle of that line for them. But you do have to
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build up that depth, and some of that is going to come from the
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younger guys. Rick S says, taker Chabolis should play. He's a road
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grader. I think Ciriveld, Austin Serriveld, who is a true freshman this
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year, will also be in the mix. This second year guys, Kevin,
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you know Shabola, this is he's going into his third year. That's
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when you typically sort of expect the guy to maybe take that next step to
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being ready to play physically strong enough and just developed enough as an offensive lineman.
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Ciriveld as a second year player maybe, but that's that's was Carson Hinzman
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as a second year player. And Luke Montgomery we've talked about, as you
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know, stepping in potentially at right tackle and moving Friar inside. Montgomery also
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a second year player. So there's just there is a certain development path.
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You don't generally see a ton of second year offensive lineman stepping in and just
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being lights out that first year. You know that well, their second year,
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their first year starting is is that you know, do they need.
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Is this sort of a way to get to getting those guys ready. You
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bring in some more better in depth and just you have more options in case
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guys are not quite physically ready when the season starts. And let's throw Josh
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Dia in the mix too. In terms of those second year guys as well.
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And I think it comes down to if a guy is going to be
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good enough to play in the second year, probably playing in the first year,
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because those are those are your unicorns. I think really it takes a
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couple of years in the system to be able to get there. But I
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think it really highlights some of the misses that Ohio State had under greats Rawa.
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And you know, there have just been some things along the way that
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have created issues. But I'd go back to the earlier point too about if
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Ohio State brings in a true offensive coordinator type, then it's on him to
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play more than five in terms of you know, you're not I mean,
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the goals win the game. You got to win the game. But I
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think one of the one of the deficiencies we've seen through the years is that
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Ohio State play under under Ryan Day. As Ohio State plays its starters until
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the end, and then when it does bring in the second team, it's
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student body left and student body right, and we're just trying to run out
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the clock and let's get to the locker room and have our you know,
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our have our donados and get on with our lives. I think at that
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point, you you sit there and you have a situation of where you are
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bringing in your twos in a little bit more of a higher leverage situation.
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They're having experience. And then when your ones graduate or player to the NFL,
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you're not at the situation just looking at each other. It's like,
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how did this happen? How do we not have anybody with any any experience?
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That's on you. You've had the opportunity at the end of the Rutgers
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game, or at the end of the Maryland game, or at the end
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of the Akron game to sit there and make these changes, and of course
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it's a it's a it's a it's it's a little bit of a give and
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you know, give and go on there. We got to sit there and
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get our ones this experience. We've got to get them cohesive. We've got
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to do all of this, and then on the flip side of we've got
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to get our two's experience as well, because we've we've seen this and the
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offensive line is not the only position that this has been you know, has
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been an issue quarterbacked among others that you know, you sit there, you
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put all you know, you put all your eggs in that one basket,
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and then then that basket goes to the NFL and then you're like, damn,
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what now? What now? What do we do? Uh? Jermaine
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Mim says, as a Bama fan, hate to see Seth leave after a
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bad season at center. He's a really good blocker. I don't know why
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the snaps went haywire after playing well the last two seasons. Put wishing the
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best of luck. Some of that is just I think some of that is
23:49
if you're in a hurry to get up and block the guy in front of
23:53
you, sometimes the mechanics get a little off, and then sometimes it can
23:57
get a little bit mental. That we've talked to centers in the past where
24:02
if you're worried about the guy across the line from you, you don't necessarily
24:06
finish the snap. You don't have your perfect mechanics because you're trying to get
24:10
up and ready to block the guy in front of you. That can be
24:12
a factor in that, and you know that can be a fixable thing.
24:15
This is not There was someone in the in the chat who said, yeah,
24:19
definite day on Ford says he had one bad year. You'll act like
24:22
people can't be coached up. I'm happy he's here. It's an upgrade.
24:25
Really, he's a physical blocker, run and pass. This is you know,
24:30
we said, this is I think a certainly a at the very very
24:34
least a depth move and a increase of you know, raising the floor for
24:38
what the twenty twenty four offensive line could be because you're just this is someone
24:44
who has at least played and you know this is not no disrespect to Vic
24:48
Cutler, but this is not someone who has been a multi year starter at
24:51
Louisiana Monroe. This is a guy who's been a multi year starter at Alabama,
24:55
and you're just trying to raise your floor. You're trying to bring in
24:57
more talent because, as you said, there have been some recruiting misses there
25:03
and now this is this is a way to sort of sort of raise the
25:07
overall level of talent in that room. Raised. You know, whether that's
25:10
the top five, the top eight, whatever it is. And this is
25:12
not the only person they're trying to They're not the only person they're trying to
25:17
do that with. You know, he says, can we get just get
25:19
the left tackle out of Troy and coach him up Derek Graham? Come on,
25:22
then that's the other guy who ohist had in for a visit this week.
25:26
This to me, he's got He had several other visits coming up.
25:30
I know he was visiting I think Pitt Texas, A and M and maybe
25:33
somewhere else over the next few days. So that's not that was not a
25:37
decision that was expected immediately. But again, this is not a sure thing,
25:42
multiple time Outland winner or anything like that. But you know, Derek
25:48
Braham seems like he's sort of in that Josh Simmons mold where he came in
25:52
this year, was a solid player, was maybe the best offensive lineman they
25:59
had on the team by the end of the year, and comes in with
26:00
multiple years. So he's going to be back again in twenty four. So
26:03
it's not just a you know, one year patch, it's a long,
26:07
you know, multiple year improvement for the line. Graham, if he does
26:11
come to Ohio State could be the same, you know, still in that
26:15
same kind of role. Yeah, exactly. I mean you sit there and
26:21
it's it's important to be able to get these guys and have this type of
26:25
experience. I mean and apple, it's not apples to apples. I mean,
26:27
obviously Josh Simmons showed that started at San Diego State, started off at
26:33
Ohio State, struggled, he had his struggles, and by the end of
26:37
the year, would you say that in terms of just taking care of his
26:41
own business, I mean, was one of the better linemen on the Ohio
26:45
State roster. So you sit there and you look at Derek Graham. You
26:48
know, I don't. I don't. People are gonna, of course,
26:51
say, well, what ore Ohio State stances landing there? Well, I
26:52
would have liked a lot more if Ohio State would have prevented him from taking
26:56
the other visits. But you know, does Derek Graham notice that Ohio State
26:59
break in the sess McLaughlin, It's like, all right, they're really making
27:03
a move. A lot of times these kids leave smaller programs because they want
27:08
to have a big season. And if you're lining up next to let's say
27:15
you put Seth McLaughlin at guard and he's lining up next to him. It's
27:18
gonna make him look better. He's gonna have better film for the NFL,
27:22
He's gonna have better results. I think. I mean, it's going to
27:23
probably raise his game too, because the line is very different. You're not
27:27
playing as so much as an individual as you're playing as a unit. You're
27:30
playing as one, one massive sea of humanity out there. So I think
27:37
it's all going to be very good. I think I think Ohio State certainly
27:40
has a chance of bringing in Derek Brahm. I know Ohio State really was
27:44
disappointed to see Jase Chase asonis of a and m enter the portal only to
27:48
exit the portal, because that's somebody that I think they would have gone all
27:52
in on. But you know, with Ohio State, you know, having
27:56
this big forty eight hours, getting getting Will Howard from Kansas State, now
28:00
getting Seth McLoughlin from from I keep winning, call him Seth MacFarlane, but
28:04
that's family guy from Alabama. I think all of that is showing that,
28:11
you know, I think Ohio State is kind of pushing the chips all in
28:14
on twenty four and it's like, all right, we're getting a lot of
28:18
our guys back, a lot of our guys are making the decision to run
28:22
it back for another year. I mean, you'll see that come in over
28:25
the next eight days, nine days, whatever the NFL deadline is. I
28:29
don't remember, it's fourteenth or the fifteenth, it's one or the other.
28:32
You're going to see a veteran laden team. And I think Ohio State,
28:36
via the portal and via you know, certainly the Collectives nil Collectives is going
28:41
to make a major push to get there. And you know, I think
28:45
I think it's I think because this is a pivotal year. I mean,
28:48
this is really a pivotal year. When Jean Smith retires at the end of
28:52
the academic year, Ted Carter takes over as university president. That you know,
28:56
Brian Day is not going to be Ted Carter guy in terms of that
29:00
he came in under his watch. Ryan Day is not going to be the
29:03
head coach that came in under the watch of whoever the eight he may be,
29:07
he or she may be for Ohio State. So this is this is
29:11
an important year. So there's if there is a year to go all in,
29:15
this is it. Yeah, And just to sort of spell that out
29:18
a little more. New university president is going to be hiring a new athletic
29:22
director this year. A lot of times you just want to have your guy
29:26
in there, and if the guy who is the guy before your guy is
29:30
still winning and is hitting all of his goals, well, then it's a
29:33
real easy decision to keep him around. It gets a little more dicey if
29:38
you have a new athletic director, which Ohio State is going to have in
29:42
June, as a new university president kind of making those decisions. And you
29:47
know, this is not the most patient fan base in the world either,
29:49
so really you yeah, really exclusive must credit Buckeye Huddle dot com exclusive information
29:56
there, but yeah, this is you know, the Ryan Day is acting
30:00
like he recognizes that twenty twenty four is a very very big year for him,
30:06
and that's you know, he has shown over the years that he's willing
30:10
to make those changes when they need to. They brought in Jim Knowles after
30:14
twenty twenty one. After the twenty twenty one debacle against Oregon, They demoted
30:18
Kerry Combs from defensive coordinator and then brought in Knowles after the twenty twenty one
30:23
season and they've seen a steady improvement there on the defensive front. Now you're
30:29
trying to, you know, with between the bringing in Will Howard and you
30:33
know the report again, the Football Scoop report that there are significant significant changes
30:37
coming to the Ohio State coaching staff for twenty four. Yeah, this very
30:40
much feels like Ryan Day sort of looking at twenty twenty four and recognizing the
30:44
reality of, yes, this is a very important year and with a twelve
30:48
team playoff, even if you know it sort of changes maybe how you can
30:52
approach the season. If you're not one hundred percent ready in terms of a
30:56
young quarterback at the beginning of the year, you might be able to survive
31:00
one early loss in a way you couldn't in the fourteen playoff era. So
31:04
that's all going to be very interesting to watch. You were just down all
31:10
week down in San Antonio at the All American Bowl. A couple questions down
31:14
there, well, not questions, more statements. Mellow number seven, says
31:18
JJ Smith. Jeremiah Smith will get MVP of the All American Bowl. Boy,
31:23
everything I've read, everything I've seen, everything I've watched, Jeremiah Smith
31:29
just keeps looking like Jeremiah Smith, even though he's gone from playing good competition,
31:33
very good competition in South Florida high schools to some of the best competition
31:37
in the nation in his age group, and it still just kind of looks
31:41
like Jeremiah Smith doing Jeremiah Smith things, no matter what. I had you
31:45
on the morning show a couple days ago and you said some very irresponsible things,
31:49
So you can you know, MVP of the All American Bowl, he
31:56
was named like the most outstanding player during practice I think this week. I
32:00
mean, it just it feels like this is someone who could come in and
32:04
be a fairly immediate impact player at Ohio State this year as well. Yeah,
32:07
and something I'll say about being the All American Bowl MVP is there's some
32:13
luck in that one as well. That one is just not you know,
32:15
it's like, Okay, you're the number one player. You just you know,
32:17
roll it out there and you're going to be the guy. I mean,
32:20
you know, comes down to quarterbacking. It comes down to you know,
32:24
how many players you're out there for, et cetera. Because you bring
32:27
out all these top players, you want to make sure everybody sees ample time.
32:31
This isn't even like the Major League Baseball Star Game where oh, we're
32:35
going to roll with with our starters for five innings and then we're gonna sit
32:37
there and pinch hit and do this, and then we probably have a couple
32:40
of pitchers that we're just going to hold back because you know, their clubs
32:45
don't really want to put anywhere on their arms and everything else. So if
32:50
if Jeremiah Smith is given the opportunity, then yeah, I think he certainly
32:53
has a very good shot of getting the MVP at the All American Bowl.
32:58
But no, there's a lot do it. And if he doesn't get the
33:00
MVP of the All American Bowl, it's not going to be a case of
33:04
oh, man, well you know that was a missed opportunity. Uh,
33:07
maybe he's not as good as we thought he was. No, it was
33:09
it's just a case of how how the game rolls out. And you know,
33:13
there are a lot of years where this game is not nearly as high
33:16
scoring as you would expect it to be. Well, you got quarterbacks,
33:19
the top receivers. We also have like four days to practice and install,
33:23
and it's just you know, it doesn't necessarily work out. But yeah,
33:27
I stand by my my my irresponsible comments that I mean of how good he's
33:32
going to be, and that you know, if there was if there everyone
33:35
was a six star, this kid should be a six star and whatever whatever
33:37
else I may have at that moment, I I blame it on diahwas fair
33:44
enough. A announcement coming later on today, five star cornerback Devin Sanchez out
33:51
of Texas. He's going to be announcing his ultimate college destination a little later
33:57
on today. I think that's on the All American Bowl telecast as well.
34:00
Well. Yeah, so that that starts, I believe at noon today.
34:04
I don't remember one. One Eastern, Okay, noon Central. Yeah,
34:07
so they tweeted it out from their accountants at noon because they're in San Antonio
34:13
where it is Central time, but it is one o'clock. I for the
34:16
rumor that it's going to be going into the third quarter is when it's going
34:22
to be. But they will at the beginning watch the entire game because you're
34:24
gonna want to watch Jeremiah Smith. You're gonna want to watch Hydrid Houston.
34:28
You're gonna want to watch Ian Moore, You're gonna want to watch Garrett Stover,
34:31
you know, so on and so James. People's you're gonna want to
34:34
watch, so they'll tell you when it's going to be. Yeah, this
34:38
could be a very big day for Ohio State because Devin Sanchez is a very
34:43
camilented corner. Uh six one six two. I mean you Oio State.
34:47
Everybody loves tall corners and he's you know, he is a tall corner and
34:52
he can you know, is he is? He is he the best corner
34:54
to come out of Texas since Jeff Okuda? Maybe maybe, And that's not
35:00
a bad you know, say what you will about. You know what his
35:05
NFL career looked like with the Detroit Lions before he was moving before he moved
35:07
on from the Lions, he was a tremendous collegiate player. And I think
35:10
Devin Sanchez is going to be a tremendous player in his own right. And
35:17
you know, if Ohio State's able to get that commitment, then it's going
35:21
to have to play defensive. Ohio State isn't able to beat out A and
35:23
M or Alabama, then Ohio State is going to have to play offense on
35:27
there. But you know, stay tuned to find out what Devin Sanchez's decision
35:30
is. He's a big one, all right, and then here's an interesting
35:34
question from CDSDS why do you think Ohio State gotta later start taking players in
35:38
the portal versus Lane Kiffin, who was extremely proactive. I don't know that
35:43
it was an intentional thing that they decided to wait, as much as there
35:47
were a couple names in the portal that we thought maybe they were going to
35:52
make a move on to a couple of Ohio natives back in December. That
35:57
sounds Kevin from what we're hearing now, like that was more of a not
36:02
these particular guys rather than we're not ready to start taking guys yet. It
36:07
was more of a personnel decision, and it was a decision rather than just
36:10
a you know, people were asleep of the switch and the players that we're
36:16
talking about there, it was not a case of that they're not talented players,
36:20
but maybe they just didn't fit in Ohio State's plans. And and something
36:22
else too is we're dealing with a finite number of spots that you can take.
36:27
What's what's the number? I don't know, but you know how many
36:30
how many portal guys can you take? And if you sit there and you
36:34
take this guy and then this other guy, comes out of the portal like
36:37
a week later. Well, then then what are you going to do.
36:38
You're going to tell the guy that you just brought into the portal, Hey
36:42
buddy about that, you know, sorry about your damn luck. You got
36:45
to you gotta move on. We'd rather see this other guy, a couple
36:50
of the guys that Lane Kippen has brought in or you know, tremendous Walter
36:52
Nolan or whatever. I think there were some pretty big nil asks involved there.
36:59
I mean Ohio State have used a guy like Walter Nolan absolutely, but
37:04
again we're talking about you know, finite amounts or whatever, and you've got
37:07
to figure out how you're going to how you're going to allocate your funds and
37:12
if you if you lock it up all on one guy, then what are
37:15
you going to do? And for all the success that he had in terms
37:16
of what he's got there in the portal, he goes around and loses Quinchawn
37:21
Judkins to the portal. And if Ohio State is unable to keep Trey Henderson,
37:25
Ohio State is certainly going to make a very big push on the super
37:30
talented SEC running back who kind of do it all. And I think in
37:34
a lot of ways was a huge part of an Old Miss team that went
37:38
on and beat In State in the Peach Bowl. I believe, and we'll
37:43
finish in the top ten. And you know, the the decision on Judkins
37:49
will hinge as you said on the decision by Trevan Henderson. And there are
37:52
still a bunch of guys Ohio State's waiting to hear an official decision back from
37:58
We talked about Donovan Jackson on the offense of line earlier, we talked about
38:00
Traveon Henderson is running back. We've talked about a Meccabuka as a wide receiver.
38:05
They just got new positive news back on Friday from Lathan Ransom and Jack
38:10
Sawyer. They're still waiting and they're still waiting to hear from j T.
38:14
Twoey Moloow. They've not officially heard from Denzel Burke. He's announcing on the
38:17
tenth I think he said. Jordan Hancock has not officially announced whether he's coming
38:22
back. But it does feel like overall the trend is towards most of these
38:29
guys coming back. They lost my call to the NFL, which we had
38:31
sort of heard back in December, was where that was likely trending defensive tackle.
38:37
Obviously Marvin Harrison, that was not going to be one that you needed
38:39
to spend a lot of time figuring out, you know, is is he
38:43
going to go or not? He has not officially announced he didn't play in
38:46
the bowl game. I can read the tea leaves for you if you'd like,
38:50
he's going to be a top five NFL draft pick. I could read
38:52
those tea leaves for you if you'd like. But I think it's probably safe
38:54
to say Marvin Harrison likely going to go if they can somehow keep the rest
39:00
of that team. That's one of the things that had Michigan, that pushed
39:02
Michigan from the you know, solid but not winning playoff games team to the
39:07
team that's now playing for national championship was they brought a lot of those guys
39:12
back. Like Korum kould have left for the NFL last year, he hung
39:15
around and played another year. They brought a bunch of those guys back this
39:20
season. And they had like a very concerted nil push a year ago to
39:23
bring those guys back and sort of run it back for one more year.
39:27
And you've sort of seen that. It feels like this year's Ohio State team.
39:31
There's sort of that same unfinished business kind of vibe around a lot of
39:35
those guys. Jack Stewyer talked about that, Denzel Burke talked about that,
39:40
or before the Cotton Bowl. It just feels like you're sort of getting that
39:45
same vibe that they're likely going to be bringing back a lot of these guys
39:50
whose status is still kind of up in the air right now. Yeah,
39:52
let's not forget Michigan had something like forty four senior plus type of eligibility guy
40:00
and that's where it really happened. The COVID year and everything else all kind
40:05
of you know, got put up. You know, it's like when you
40:07
have a hose and you've bend the hose and you get that you know,
40:10
you get that big pressure or of water and you undo it and it just
40:13
goes nuts. That's what Michigan has had this year in terms of what its
40:16
roster is. I think for Ohio State is going to get the vast majority
40:21
of its guys back. I mean, there are a couple of guys that
40:22
we're hearing that are kind of having that eleventh hour indecision. You know,
40:27
oh they're going to come back. Not so sure at this point, Raman
40:30
Anderson being one of them. I think the T twomloaw may be one of
40:34
the other ones. So you know, we'll see. I'm big for allowing
40:38
these guys to have their moment and not necessarily get out ahead of their decisions.
40:43
I mean, so we'll, you know, we'll all, you know,
40:45
we'll all find out over the next you know, week plus as to
40:49
what they're what their decisions are going to be. But I think for Ohio
40:52
State, Ohio State needs to know what's going on, like right now because
41:00
to the earlier question about it feels like Ohio State got a little bit of
41:02
a delayed start on its portal moves or whatever. Again, if you if
41:07
you have fourteen guys, I'm just bringing up a random number. If you
41:10
have fourteen guys who are making NFL decisions, and you have to know kind
41:15
of what they're doing, because if like nine of them leave, well,
41:17
you know, that's nine spots you need to fill out. If only you
41:21
know, if you only lose Marvin and Mike Hall and and uh and Matt
41:25
Jones, and you know one or two others, then you probably have a
41:30
lot your spots. And the truth of the matter is is well, you
41:34
don't necessarily have to technically be at eighty five at this moment based on summer
41:37
enrollies, you have to be at eighty five at all times in terms of
41:40
who's on. But you know you can on paper be a B A,
41:45
you know above it. I mean you for every guy you bring in and
41:47
you're at your cap, you that's the guy that's got to leave. And
41:51
once again it's really easy and roster management on n C two A two thousand
41:55
and seven. You know, cut a player, but you know you're cutting
41:59
somebody he's done and everything else, and that you know, that's not something
42:02
that necessarily should be taken lightly or with you know, with gross indifference.
42:09
Well, not only are you cutting someone's son, you're cutting someone who played
42:14
for a high school program. And if word gets back to that high school
42:17
program that hey they really didn't treat so and so, well that's going to
42:22
impact your future ability to recruit at some of those programs. So that's you
42:27
know, a factor in those decisions as well. Yeah, Mark, someone
42:30
comment to the Matt Jones declared for the NFL. Yeah, we're not We're
42:34
not talking about the guys who ran out their eligibility, Matt Jones, Josh
42:37
Proctor, Kate Stover, Tommy Eickenberger like those guys. Those guys I don't
42:43
know that well. Kate Stover openly talked about the fact that that was going
42:45
to be his last game. Tommy Eickenberger's already signed up for the Senior Bowl,
42:50
so you know, this was Steles Chambers talked after the game about the
42:52
fact that that was going to be his last game, so he he also
42:54
had declared, but this those were you know, we're talking about the guys
42:58
who were more you know, have another year of eligibility that they could come
43:01
back and use. So that's that's the Pleatungua bealoa from trying to come back
43:06
and he doesn't even have another year. But I mean, yeah, that's
43:09
that was That was wild because I thought I saw that yesterday and I thought,
43:14
didn't that happen a week ago? Like that that was out like a
43:16
week ago that he was going to be entering the transfer portal, and then
43:20
I guess it officially happened yesterday. A couple others that we wanted to get
43:27
to Julius, says Julian Fleming to Penn State question Mark and Julian Fleming to
43:34
Penn State was when Julian Fleming went in the transfer portal, you know,
43:37
the immediate instant reaction show. My first reaction was going to Penn State because
43:44
he's from central Pennsylvania. He is someone who he was had been linked closely
43:49
to Penn State. There was constant rumors he was going to flip the Penn
43:52
State coming out of high school. That obviously did not happen. He had
43:55
some personal relationships with folks who were at Penn State at that time, and
44:00
Penn State is in a spot where they need wide receivers and Julian Fleming was
44:05
never wide receiver one at Ohio State. He was kind of wide receiver three
44:08
for them this year and last year. It's hard to get it is hard
44:13
to be ahead of Marvin Harrison and a Mecca Abuka on the depth chart.
44:15
That is just the reality of the situation. He has been a very solid
44:19
player for Ohio State for multiple years. He might be able to be wide
44:22
receiver one for Penn State next year. Penn State has just not had quite
44:25
the wide receiver talent that they thought they were going to over the last few
44:29
years. They brought in Dante Cephas from Kent State. Last year, I
44:31
thought, for all the world Dante Sephas is going to have a great year
44:34
for Penn State, and then I think he finished with sixteen catches for one
44:37
hundred and seventy yards or something like that. This year just didn't that didn't
44:40
work. And then he's back in the portal. So there's an immediate opportunity
44:44
for Julian Fleming there. I think he's probably gonna have a pretty solid year
44:46
for Penn State. But that was not to me a real big surprise.
44:52
And Rick wants to know any thought about where Hinsman stands in the program right
44:55
now after that podcast. To me, Kevin, I think the podcast thing,
45:01
in the controversy around that might be getting a little overplayed in terms of
45:08
what, you know, why why Carson Hinsman didn't play in the Cotton Bowl.
45:13
I'm probably one of the last people in quote unquote Bluckeye Nation who's not
45:16
listened to the podcast. I know that it's been archived somewhere. Got taken
45:20
down, but it's been archived somewhere. You know, it's we all,
45:25
we all spend our entire lives looking for answers, looking for meaning, if
45:30
you will to get philosophical. I think we're all looking for answers and meaning
45:34
as to why Carson Hinsman was not out there in the Cotton Bowl, why
45:39
Matt Jones booked the center, and why you know Kamahi was out there.
45:46
And I think people are also going to do the math of well they brought
45:50
in another center, you know, and I know a lot of people are
45:52
well, I hope he plays guard because I saw the I saw the Rose
45:54
Bowl. I think Carson Hinsman is just fine. But you know, we'll
45:59
see, We'll see what happens at that point. I mean, people have
46:01
to make their have to make their decisions for a multitude of reasons. Ohio
46:07
State's not in a position of where it needs to be shedding depth of guys
46:10
who have actually played n C two A football. And I'm talking the real
46:14
variety and not the video games, since I seem to have that on my
46:16
mind, and we'll get some news on that video game coming up here on
46:20
Monday. It sounds like, but you know, with that being said,
46:24
I don't think Ohio State needs to be shedding guys like that. I think
46:29
that there's I think Carson Hinsman could be a tremendous guard. I really do
46:34
think that he's got some the talent to be able to be successful Ohio State.
46:38
And as I said earlier in the show, and first of all,
46:42
we weren't even going to do a live show. We're just going to record
46:45
a show. Then we're only going to do a fifteen minute show. As
46:46
we're here now almost forty six minutes into this show right now, because we
46:50
have a great audience asking a ton of questions. So thank you for joining
46:52
us here on a Saturday morning wherever you may be, you know, talking
46:58
about Ohio State football. But uh, you know, I'm just I think
47:01
that Hinsman, I think I think the path forward for Hinsman is still good.
47:07
I still you know, he may come to a decision that well,
47:08
you know, I kind of I'm embarrassed with you know, whatever the podcast
47:13
was, or that I didn't you know, I had a bad prep week
47:15
for the bowl game or whatever that may be. And if he moves on,
47:20
wish him well, if you thank him for his time. But I
47:22
don't think that's gonna be. Yeah, that's that's probably probably not going to
47:28
be the case. Mark Fetters wants to know the chances that McLaughlin will play
47:32
guard, and we talked about this earlier. That is a that is a
47:38
TBD. I think we'll see whether, you know, Hinsman is the center.
47:44
We'll see whether McLoughlin's this center. Someone in the chat mentioned, you
47:46
know, Luke Montgomery might be the center. I mean they I think I
47:51
don't know who the starting five is going to be right now. I think
47:54
this is just more about assembling options and giving yourself different options. Is they're
48:00
looking for Kevin every year? What do they tell us? They're looking for
48:04
the best five, and then you figure out you have your best five,
48:07
and then you figure out where those five different pieces fit together. Because you
48:10
have seen guys shuffle and some guys have no problem moving from say, left
48:15
tackle to right tackle, and some guys can't do it. It's just very
48:17
difficult. Jeff Schwartz, the former Oregon offensive lineman who is very popular on
48:22
Twitter, has compared it to wiping with the other hand switching sides of the
48:28
line, which is a very colorful analogy, which is probably also a little
48:31
bit a little bit illustrative of some of the challenges where you just have to
48:37
do everything backwards. So some guys can do it. Some guys can't,
48:40
but they're just trying to get as many options in the building, as many
48:43
options in the program. And then you spend spring practice figuring it out.
48:46
You spend summer practice figuring it out, and sometimes it drags into fall camp,
48:51
but then you figure it out. Jordan Kapler super Chat a surprise show
48:53
with the greatest man ever to exist and Tom Jordan, of course famously twenty
49:00
twenty fourth the year when Jordan judges everything based on pickle consumption? Is that
49:06
is his measure of the greatness of a man. Twenty twenty four, The
49:10
hell with Orr. That's because it's your turn. It is it is my
49:15
turn. I can't wait for twenty twenty five. I don't know what rhymes
49:20
are. Five that runs, we'll see that's that's Tony. Twenty twenty five
49:24
is Tony's year. But nasty. Now I have another three hundred and what
49:28
fifty nine days or so to go. We'll see. Let's pop up mark
49:36
marks months now. A running back from the portal. They're looking at a
49:38
running back in the portal, and I think the question on the running back
49:40
is what happens with Travon Henderson we talked about Queen Shawn Judkins, the Ole
49:45
miss running back who's in the portal. If Travion Henderson ends up leaving,
49:50
then you only have one returning scholarship running back that would be Dalan Hayden,
49:53
and you really would almost have to bring in someone from the portal. If
49:57
not, they may roll with tre Vanna Henderson and Dallan Hayden and the three
50:01
freshmen. You got to see James Peoples down there in Texas this week at
50:06
the All American Bowl in San Antonio at the practices. That is a position
50:12
where you have seen true freshman step onto campus and be ready to start day
50:15
one. I don't you know, they don't really need him to do that
50:17
this year, but just physically looking at him during practice, he looks like
50:22
someone who might be ready to play some kind of a role this fall for
50:25
Ohio State, you know, maybe being the spare in the pair and a
50:29
spare for the running back room. Let's not forget they're not bringing in three.
50:32
They're bringing in two. Jordan Lyles as South Florida running backs seem to
50:37
do in terms of recruiting wise, So it's just two with Jim's Peoples and
50:43
Sam Williams Dixon. I think James People's a little further developed, especially because
50:46
Sam Williams Dixon. Let's not forget, like two years ago he was playing
50:51
against Fomish kids at West Holmes and he only got to play half a season
50:54
at Pick North because of transfer rules and things of that nature. Very impressed
50:59
with what I think there. I still think he probably needs a little time
51:02
with strength and conditioning. James Peoples certainly has the ability, I think,
51:07
to be able to come in if he can pick up some of the past
51:09
pro and things of that nature. But I'm really excited. I need to
51:14
make sure that I record the game of the All American Game at one o'clock
51:19
on NBC and Peacock. I'm sure they appreciate the plug there so I can
51:22
go back and watch it with a critical eye after just watching it with more
51:24
of a casual eye the first time around. But yeah, I think that,
51:30
you know, I think that quin Shawn Judkins would be certainly would be
51:34
the answer if they lose Trevon Henderson. If Henderson comes back, are you
51:38
going to find a back? You're going to find a back that's going to
51:43
come in and be you know, want be willing to be kind of third
51:47
chair unless unless Dallan Hayden, you know, somehow is still on the do
51:52
not playlist akin to the do not fly list. I don't, I don't,
51:55
I don't know. I've never been able to figure that one out.
51:58
But uh, yeah, I think that's who Mark Sherry Mark R. Sherry
52:01
was kind of referring to. I think Judkins is named to watch as we
52:06
wait to see what happens with Trevion Henderson. Again, as I said earlier,
52:10
I know people are coming in and coming out of the show. Henderson
52:14
is one of the guys that I'm under the impression of that is kind of
52:16
waffling a little bit on his decision and we're just gonna have to wait to
52:21
see. Yeah, and there is here's a comment from PB. Are some
52:24
of these guys waiting so long to publicly announce their plans because they're angling for
52:29
better nil deals? I think let's have a broader conversation here and say that,
52:36
yes, I am aware of a number of players nationally who the decision
52:42
is basically, can you get it hit a certain number in nil? And
52:46
if so, you bring him back? Was that was we talked earlier about
52:51
you know, Michigan made a big thing We're a big nil campaign to run
52:54
it back again this year after last season, and it was a very sickcessful
53:00
one and a lot of those, you know, a lot of those decisions.
53:02
The modern reality of college football is if you're going to get you know,
53:07
X amount, you're probably better off trying to go, you know,
53:10
going and being a fifth round pick in the NFL draft or a third round
53:14
pick in the NFL draft or whatever you're going to be. And if you
53:16
can get a bigger amount, well then that changes that calculus. And I
53:22
think we all know how leverage works. Well, if you you know,
53:24
you get a little closer to the deadline and you have a little more leverage
53:29
and maybe here in a little bit of a better bargaining position. I think
53:31
that's just sort of one of the modern realities of football that that's certainly a
53:37
possibility. I think, you know, they don't, they don't. There's
53:40
here's the problem. There's nothing that you're not You don't sign anything to say
53:45
I'm not going to the NFL. You have to sign something if you are
53:47
going to the NFL. So there's no you know, there's no action that
53:51
locks you into coming back. If you come out and announce it you're coming
53:53
back, You're coming back. But yeah, I think that's a factor for
53:57
a lot of guys. There's I think that's a factor for a lot of
54:00
guys on pretty much every team in America, or at least every significant team
54:04
in America. That's part of the you know, that is part of playing
54:07
the game. Right now, Uh, we do we need to talk a
54:09
little bit about the end of the call it the video game. Aaron Taylor
54:14
says, Oh, geez, what if they're waiting to announce the video game
54:15
until after the championship and the MVP of that game will be on the cover.
54:20
It's possible. But generally the way they did it, Kevin, was
54:23
that they brought you know, it was like last year's Heisman winner basically was
54:28
you know, was the guy. So is that going to be jade and
54:30
Daniels on the cover of the game next year? I think with the way
54:35
it works now, you could do you know, do regional covers like Phil
54:37
Steele does, where you know you have you can put have the Jadeen Daniels
54:43
cover, or you can have the Michael Pennock's cover, or you can have
54:46
the JJ McCarthy cover, or you can have the you know whoever filling your
54:52
fill in your spot. They might they might not just have one cover athlete
54:58
this year because the if if the person on the cover moves the needle sales
55:04
wise, and it feels like that would be something that they have a history
55:07
of figuring out because they're paying for it. They've been paying for it as
55:09
long as they've been doing the game. Basically, I think you probably do
55:14
a re you know why, there doesn't need to be one guy on the
55:16
cover. There can be a whole lot of people. Bar Moore hates college
55:22
football. Here's why we know that. It's like the SI cover jinks.
55:25
If you're on the cover of a video game, So why would you want
55:29
to sit there and doom six or seven teams with regional cover? No,
55:34
I mean money, money, money money. You want to sit there and
55:37
chase that dollar and there's that's certainly a great way to do it. I've
55:40
certainly seen places that have done like mockups of you know not NCTWO a license
55:45
by any starch of the imagination, but they created photorealistic covers with other players
55:51
on it. So you could just slide it into the case. But then
55:53
again, how many people, you know, how many people sit there and
55:58
get digital downloads and never actually have a physical DVD, Blu ray whatever,
56:05
you know, whatever the system is that the game is delivered on, and
56:07
the reality is too once you put the game in the system, it's probably
56:13
going to be the same game. I doubt that they're going to reprogram the
56:15
cover screen off of the top of it. But then again, maybe what
56:19
you do have is you have it in your user menu that you can say,
56:22
I really like Michael Pennix, and I want Michael Pennix to be the
56:25
player that I see over my start screen, or I, you know,
56:29
I really want to see Jalen Milroe, or I really want to see whoever.
56:35
So there's a lot of things that can be done. And now that
56:37
you know now that there's compensation involved, I think it's a lot easier to
56:42
be able to cast a wider net because it's not a matter of it being
56:45
a case of well, you know, we're just sitting there saying, well,
56:50
you're you're you're playing with quarterback number, you know, quarterback number six,
56:54
rather than it was Kyle McCord. I guess we're talking about Syracuse.
56:58
But you know it's all it's all out in the open. Yeah, it
57:02
is all on the open, and it does feel I guess that is true.
57:06
It could be. You could be like a customizable thing, because I
57:07
remember you could customize your you know, customized to a certain team on the
57:12
old menu and like the whole setup screen and all that kind of stuff,
57:15
and that was I haven't played that again. The last play video game system.
57:19
My head was at the PlayStation two, so it has been a hot
57:21
minute, so it's been at least what ten years or so, and that
57:23
was a customizable Yeah, that was a customizable screen back then, So I
57:29
would assume it would be a customizable screen right now. And you know,
57:31
if you want, I'm going to not get exactly every single one of the
57:36
details, right but my understanding is that they are planning on having images like
57:39
facial recognition, you know, facial facially recognizable images of players because you which
57:46
you can have because you're paying for nil now in this game. So there's
57:51
no reason if you want to have the backup left guard from Tennessee be your
57:57
your player on the screen. I don't know that there's any reason you couldn't
58:00
do that if this is an ultimate, you know, a customizable game with
58:04
all of these guys scanned in. If you want to know more about the
58:07
NCAA game, I'm going to direct you to Matt Brown, who late of
58:12
the Extra Points newsletter. He has been doing incredible work on the game and
58:17
following, you know, staying in touch with the EA Sports on it and
58:22
filing freedom of information Freedom of Information Act requests. Boy requests with various schools
58:28
to get all the assets that they've put in there. You can find him
58:30
on Twitter at at Matt Brown EP extra Points at Matt Brown EP. He
58:37
has been doing great, great work on that. A lot of times you'll
58:40
see other people reporting stuff and it's like Matt Brown reported that like three months
58:45
ago. This is not news. So if you want to if you are
58:47
super interested in learning more about that game, he is the guy to follow.
58:51
Brandvillo, Ohio native Matt Brown by the way, so he is,
58:54
He's the one to follow. But yes, that's that's going to be very
58:57
exciting to have a new football game. Boy, there's a lot lot of
59:00
stuff. This is going to be a very different, very very different year
59:04
in college football. EA Sports coming back all the schools, changing conferences,
59:09
twelve team playoff, much much more. I'm just scrolling through real quick to
59:14
see if there are any more questions here or if we are if we have
59:19
defeated the listeners. I think we are. Yeah, I think we're pretty
59:23
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59:28
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