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The TOP 3 Games That Will DECIDE Oklahoma's Playoff Fate | Sooners 2026 Recruiting Class · Sooner or Later Sports

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Speaker 1: for another episode of the C. K and J Show.
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Speaker 1: You've got Colin Kennedy over here as usual, and you
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Speaker 1: got me Jay k Man Happy. Uh, it's coming out Friday.
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Speaker 1: It's a happy Friday. It's been a full week since
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Speaker 1: we've talked about all the craziness in Oklahoma. Have you
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Speaker 1: rested since signing day has been quote unquote complete?
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Speaker 2: No, I have not rested, luckily though it was a
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Speaker 2: relatively dramaous signing day for Oklahoma. So just doing a
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Speaker 2: lot of busy work on Wednesday and into the rest
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Speaker 2: of the week. But yeah, I I look forward to
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Speaker 2: this weekend watching some football and kicking my feet up
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Speaker 2: on the couch a little bit. That those are my
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Speaker 2: plans in the next few days.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have like no quote unquote vested interest this
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Speaker 1: weekend as of right now, things lay out the way
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Speaker 1: they are. Oklahoma, as a number eight seed, will be
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Speaker 1: hosting a game, and we've got to figure out who
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Speaker 1: if they're shakeups.
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Speaker 2: I mean there is vested interest. I mean the SEC
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Speaker 2: title game outcome directly impacts whether or not they might host.
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Speaker 2: That is true.
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Speaker 1: That is true.
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Speaker 2: If Texas Tech does lose, then hey man, anything goes
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Speaker 2: at that point. But the thing you really don't want
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Speaker 2: to happen is Alabama wins and BYU wins on the
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Speaker 2: same day, and then it's anybody's guess what this looks like.
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Speaker 1: So that's a fair point because the committee has thrown
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Speaker 1: zero consistency and what they're trying to do out there,
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Speaker 1: and I mean I get the you know what, let's
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Speaker 1: jump into that first kind. I want to talk about
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Speaker 1: how the Fox contingency has gotten all the same talking
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Speaker 1: points to where the attacks on Oklahoma should happen, the
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Speaker 1: glazing of Miami and Notre Dame, and that battle has
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Speaker 1: really gone on. And see, k I don't understand this, man.
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Speaker 1: It's Oklahoma's two losses are guys in the top twenty five,
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Speaker 1: even though the time we lost to Texas they were unranked.
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Speaker 1: But you still got ranked losses Texas at fourteen and
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Speaker 1: then Ole miss at six. For however long they're going
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Speaker 1: to be there laying kiffing bolts, there's a very and
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Speaker 1: with them having no quote unquote staff, there's a possibility
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Speaker 1: they may get bamboos with hoodwinked and let astray run
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Speaker 1: them up and flat out deceived by this committee. I
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Speaker 1: don't understand this the so let's talk about it.
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Speaker 2: Eight.
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Speaker 1: We're eighth right now, and like you said, this weekend,
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Speaker 1: things could really shake up. I don't see a path
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Speaker 1: where Oklahoma drops lower than eight, but I could be wrong. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I want to know you think there's a path
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Speaker 1: where Miami jumps Notre Dame since they had the hit
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Speaker 1: to hit, Well.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't even know
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Speaker 2: if had to head matters anymore in our sport, which
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Speaker 2: is really fun and flirty for the landscape of college football.
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Speaker 2: I believe it was Bill Connolly who tweeted it out
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Speaker 2: earlier on Thursday that the committee keeping Miami below Notre
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Speaker 2: Dame this entire time, only to potentially flip that at
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Speaker 2: the last minute because maybe a team that they both
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Speaker 2: played wins or loses during conference championship weekend. If that happens,
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Speaker 2: tear it all down. That being said, would I love
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Speaker 2: to see it? Because then that would lead to that
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Speaker 2: type of chaos to say no, So I think I'll
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Speaker 2: say this, there are three things in my opinion that
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Speaker 2: are so fascinating going into this weekend. Number one is
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Speaker 2: the whole head to head stuff with Texas and all that.
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Speaker 2: Number two is head head to head so you've got
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Speaker 2: non conference games head to head games. And then this
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Speaker 2: weekend coming up is do conference championship games matter from
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Speaker 2: a positive or negative perspective? Like, if you're playing the
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Speaker 2: extra game, what does that do for you in the rankings,
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Speaker 2: whether you're going up or down? Because I think we're
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Speaker 2: getting ready to potentially set a precedent coming out this weekend.
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Speaker 2: If you go play those games and you do drop
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Speaker 2: below team that did not play the extra game, then
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Speaker 2: why would you play?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: I mean, and like, that's that's going that could happen.
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Speaker 2: In fact, it would probably need to happen for Oklahoma
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Speaker 2: to draw a Notre Dame at home in Norman, because
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Speaker 2: Alabama would need to drop even though Alabama's playing an
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Speaker 2: extra game. Yep. So and then like what the conference
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Speaker 2: championship stuff. How do you then factor that into other
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Speaker 2: people in the rankings? Because if you're Oklahoma, the very
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Speaker 2: surface level thing that we're all monitoring is if Alabama
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Speaker 2: beats Georgia again, well, then Oklahoma is suddenly at in
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Speaker 2: jeopardy of hosting a playoff game or potentially having to
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Speaker 2: go on the road the way things shake out. But
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Speaker 2: at the same time, if Alabama wins that game, well,
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma now has a road win over the SEC champ
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Speaker 2: So do you go up? Do they jump like A
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Speaker 2: and M or ole miss or I don't know. I
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Speaker 2: don't know the answer to these questions. True, all of
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Speaker 2: that more is coming up this weekend with the final
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Speaker 2: rankings that I think it is crazy. We don't know
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Speaker 2: the answers to a lot of the stuff going into
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Speaker 2: arguably one of the biggest weekends in recent memory.
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Speaker 1: And they promised us that Strength's schedule was really going
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Speaker 1: to be a critical component inside of how they do
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Speaker 1: the rankings and stuff. But we're not seeing it as
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Speaker 1: much as we, I guess as we hoped, because it
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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they're using it that much in some spaces,
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Speaker 1: like I get why BYU is down because strength's schedule
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Speaker 1: doesn't help them. They didn't have the strongest schedule. They
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Speaker 1: got blown out by Tech on the road. There are
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Speaker 1: eleven and ones. Everybody's like, why aren't they up the
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Speaker 1: top with all the other eleven and ones, Well, they
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Speaker 1: were never up there, so it's kind of hard to
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Speaker 1: be up there if you would never truly quote unquote
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Speaker 1: up there. I don't I don't know what they're gonna
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Speaker 1: do about like A and M, who's got the Notre
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Speaker 1: Dame win. That's kind of it right, Like it's it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be weird, like you said, I think the thing
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Speaker 1: that disappoints me the most is that we really don't
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Speaker 1: have an understanding of how they're gonna do this. Like
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Speaker 1: they got Oklahoma ahead of Bama because of the head
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Speaker 1: to head respectfully, Georgia is you know, only got you
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Speaker 1: know one up there at the top. One loss, so
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Speaker 1: that's where they're supposed to be. They lose a second
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Speaker 1: time to Alabama, then do they drop them underneath Bama
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Speaker 1: and give Bama the bye week? But at that point
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Speaker 1: do you put Georgia ahead of Oklahoma who has the
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Speaker 1: road wind against Alabama that Georgia has lost to twice?
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Speaker 1: Do you punish Alabama if they lose and drop them out,
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Speaker 1: which means, as you mentioned before, what's the point of
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Speaker 1: playing the game if I'm gonna see a punishment. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's so much here.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, and it you know, it's it's dangerous because,
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Speaker 2: like you mentioned, the thought process is okay, Well, if
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Speaker 2: you play it like Alabama wins, did they get the bye,
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Speaker 2: did they jump into the top four? Well, how far
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Speaker 2: do you drop Georgia, especially considering you you would then
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Speaker 2: have to factor in they would be dropping with teams
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Speaker 2: that are not playing in the realm of the drop. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and then if you slide all that down, but then
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Speaker 2: you bump up Alabama, Well, Oklahoma beat Alabama, so shouldn't
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Speaker 2: they go up? But then also they might go down
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Speaker 2: because like Georgia, it's a whole thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And look, this is other thing too that we know, right,
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Speaker 2: the Committee has its own strength of record metric that
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Speaker 2: is not I guess, on the same level or the
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Speaker 2: same algorithm as the one we publicly see. So we're
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Speaker 2: never really truly going to know how they view these records,
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Speaker 2: which I find incredibly frustrating. That said, it's like, you know,
10:19
Speaker 2: you brought it up Texas A and M. I think
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Speaker 2: Texas A and M is a hell of a football team.
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Speaker 2: I actually believe that. You know, we did our podcast,
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Speaker 2: Josh Callaway brought it up. It feels like the two
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Speaker 2: most likely scenarios at this time. Most likely, let me emphasize,
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma would be host a playoff game potentially against Alabama
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Speaker 2: or I don't even know, you would think they're hosting
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Speaker 2: or maybe Oklahoma's going on the road to texasaying that
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Speaker 2: because the way things would fall mm hm. But you
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Speaker 2: brought this up, and it's like, okay, MS wins. They
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Speaker 2: beat Notre Dame by one in South Bend, goodwin, They
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Speaker 2: beat LSU, who was ranked at the time if I
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Speaker 2: remember correctly, and now is obviously collapsed, and then they
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Speaker 2: beat Miszoo, good football team, but it's like loose to Texas.
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Speaker 2: So in theory, you have wins over at the time
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Speaker 2: ranked Massoo, LSU, and Notre Dame all on the road.
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Speaker 2: But do you factor that in through that lens or
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Speaker 2: the current lens with Notre Dame a fringe playoff team
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Speaker 2: and then LSU having collapse, and you you're going to
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Speaker 2: be leaving Texas out and that's not an A and
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Speaker 2: M specific thing, that's a sport in general thing. Because
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Speaker 2: it is I think that they're going to have to
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Speaker 2: determine whether or not they value ranked wins at the
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Speaker 2: time or wins through the current lens of the landscape.
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Speaker 2: And I again, it's like, because they have their own
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Speaker 2: record or measurement, I have no idea what they think.
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Speaker 1: The answer to that question is yeah, it throws us
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Speaker 1: all off on all of that, because you're right, And
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Speaker 1: this is this goes back to me and my quote
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Speaker 1: unquote old man yelling at the clouds thing of I
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Speaker 1: don't like rankings before week four. We shouldn't have any
12:24
Speaker 1: type of rankings before week four. But we have to
12:27
Speaker 1: have rankings before week four because we need to get
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Speaker 1: that content out there and get that money.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: So we ain't got much of a choice. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: have to just suffer with it. Because in a lot
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Speaker 1: of those situations, those metrics are still used in favor,
12:41
Speaker 1: like the Penn State wins when they were you know,
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Speaker 1: top five still count for people. Texas losing as a
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Speaker 1: top five, top ten team still counts on the metrics.
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Speaker 1: So we would like for them not to but they count,
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Speaker 1: so it's not something we can really go with, but
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Speaker 1: the talking points that are being leveraged by these hosts
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Speaker 1: to push the Miami narrative. And I mean the bear
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Speaker 1: he's losing his mind, like he's been crashing out on
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Speaker 1: x like the last three days. It's kind of the
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Speaker 1: funniest thing I think I've seen in a while of
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Speaker 1: how hard he's crashing out about Miami, which, in a way,
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Speaker 1: I kind of agree. They beat Notre Dame, while at
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Speaker 1: the same time both of their losses are to teams
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Speaker 1: that were unranked at the time, which leads back to
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Speaker 1: teams should not be ranked until Week four. So but
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Speaker 1: it's great because I've seenked it. Colin. We beat LSU
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Speaker 1: in a very ugly seventeen to thirteen victory to wrap
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Speaker 1: up a season that has produced one of Oklahoma's best
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Speaker 1: defenses in the modern history. Statistically, they're damn good. They're
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Speaker 1: one of I think they're the second highest, second highest
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Speaker 1: rated defense in points allowed in a season, right behind
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Speaker 1: that twenty twenty one Georgia squad, so like, right behind them.
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Speaker 1: Number two is Oklahoma at how many points they gave
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Speaker 1: up this season, which is sixty one hundred and what's
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Speaker 1: that sixty seven? That is second best in I think
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Speaker 1: SEC history.
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Speaker 2: How do you like?
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Speaker 1: I guess it's hard to even add know how to
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Speaker 1: really ask this question, but because we kind of expected
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Speaker 1: as the season progress, but did you really think Brent
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Speaker 1: Vnables was going to do it this way? Let's put
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Speaker 1: it that way.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the simple way to put it would be
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Speaker 2: that I thought they were gonna have a solid year
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Speaker 2: and go eight and four, and then I had them
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Speaker 2: going nine and four with a bowl game win because
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Speaker 2: I thought that this was going to be a really
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Speaker 2: good football team that faced a schedule of all schedules.
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Speaker 2: Ye right, and that has still largely wrung true. But
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Speaker 2: that's the thing is, It's like, I find it a
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Speaker 2: little bit comical that people are dismissing their wins, like
16:44
Speaker 2: you can't have your cake and eat it when you
16:47
Speaker 2: hype this up as one of the most difficult schedules
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Speaker 2: in all of college football, and then when a program
16:51
Speaker 2: navigates it, it's like, ah, well, you know, let's it's like, well,
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Speaker 2: I I think there are a lot of lazy takes,
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Speaker 2: and I am not one who I stay out of
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Speaker 2: the drama. I keep to myself. I'm not a very
17:07
Speaker 2: social media forward writer, because you know, it is what
17:14
Speaker 2: it is. People choose to stir the pot in their
17:17
Speaker 2: own separate ways. But for me, it's like, I think
17:20
Speaker 2: that I personally thought this was going to be a
17:26
Speaker 2: good season for Oklahoma, and because it has exceeded my expectations,
17:30
Speaker 2: expectations that I thought were fair, I give them a
17:34
Speaker 2: ton of credit.
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Speaker 1: For that, Yeah, and.
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, everyone else has chosen to go
17:40
Speaker 2: against the grain with that line of thinking. And I
17:46
Speaker 2: struggle with that dynamic. I struggle to comprehend it. I
17:49
Speaker 2: struggle to see why that's feasible or justifiable. I understand
17:55
Speaker 2: that people have their perceptions of the on field product
17:58
Speaker 2: of the eye test. I get that, yeah, But at
18:02
Speaker 2: the same time, it's like, I guess my thing is,
18:07
Speaker 2: it is crazy to me that people in this industry
18:11
Speaker 2: can so easily switch back and forth from the resume
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Speaker 2: talk versus the on field talk. And that's that's wildly confusing.
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Speaker 2: Like you're gonna talk about one team specifically by way
18:26
Speaker 2: of resume, and you're gonna talk about another team only
18:30
Speaker 2: because of what you perceive them to be on the field.
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Speaker 2: That lack of consistency, for me is is my numbing sometimes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it throws me off as well. That Oklahoma and
18:45
Speaker 1: I did a video on this the other day. Colin
18:49
Speaker 1: Cowhert was talking to Josh Pate about a week or
18:51
Speaker 1: so ago, and I'm surprised it actually sit under the
18:53
Speaker 1: cracks for me. So I usually keep up with Colin
18:56
Speaker 1: just because I love disagreeing with him, But he said
19:00
Speaker 1: he was wrong about Oklahoma and the way they're playing
19:04
Speaker 1: this year, even with the struggles on offense, they look
19:07
Speaker 1: like an SEC team, as this is the way SEC
19:10
Speaker 1: teams typically win. I mean, I said it before. Auburn
19:15
Speaker 1: in thirty years have only had two quarterbacks or two
19:17
Speaker 1: seasons where they threw over three thousand yards. Only two
19:21
Speaker 1: quarterbacks did that in thirty years. That's a long time
19:27
Speaker 1: for a team to only have two three thousand yard passers,
19:30
Speaker 1: where other teams in the conference have done that numerous times.
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Speaker 1: It's you would think you would see that more in
19:36
Speaker 1: this conference, but no, the defenses are so good and
19:38
Speaker 1: so building this defense to really reflect the Brent Vinables' personality,
19:46
Speaker 1: the one that comes from Clemson, the early Brent Vinables
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Speaker 1: ones at Oklahoma, and then the Clemson version of him,
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Speaker 1: the evolved version. You're seeing that he has evolved more
19:57
Speaker 1: and more as he's become a coaching like like you like,
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Speaker 1: My floor was ten and two, and I said that
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Speaker 1: specifically because I didn't think the schedule was gonna be
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Speaker 1: as tough, and I thought that a lot of the
20:10
Speaker 1: quarterbacks were inflated a lot more than they should have
20:13
Speaker 1: been turned out to be right in a way. The
20:16
Speaker 1: only team I wasn't right about was oh Miss, because
20:20
Speaker 1: you know, with Simmons, I was like, uh, you know,
20:22
Speaker 1: it's gonna take some time for him to really get going.
20:24
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Well he gets hurt, even though he
20:27
Speaker 1: threw like three two or three interceptions in the first game,
20:30
Speaker 1: he gets hurt. Trinidad Chambliss comes in here and no
20:33
Speaker 1: one's hurt of and the dude's a stud. So it's like, well,
20:37
Speaker 1: she Layne Kiffing. You're just really good at your job
20:39
Speaker 1: of finding quarterbacks who's not afraid to throw the ball.
20:42
Speaker 1: Shout out to you. I wish we could find one
20:43
Speaker 1: of those ourselves. I mean, quarterback that's willing to just
20:46
Speaker 1: chunk it. You know, Materier has his tendencies. We'll talk
20:48
Speaker 1: about him in a minute. But I didn't think that
20:52
Speaker 1: all of these players out that I thought that South
20:54
Speaker 1: Carolina was gonna fall off. They did exactly what I thought,
20:57
Speaker 1: mainly because they didn't have rockets. Say who's gonna run
21:01
Speaker 1: the ball? Who's the top wide receiver. I mean, I
21:03
Speaker 1: keep hearing about Nick Harber, and I love talking about
21:05
Speaker 1: Nick Harber, but I ain't seeing the Nick Harbor that
21:08
Speaker 1: I keep hearing that Nick Harbor exist. You get an
21:12
Speaker 1: occasional chunk at deep and gets you eighty yarder. That's
21:15
Speaker 1: probably the only catching the game, maybe a second one.
21:17
Speaker 1: But it's like he's he hasn't shown that he's that
21:20
Speaker 1: number one dude in possession on top of his speed.
21:25
Speaker 1: So I'm more so just so impressed that the defense
21:31
Speaker 1: really just took on his personality and the fact that
21:34
Speaker 1: that staff has got everybody clicking on high cylinders. Like
21:39
Speaker 1: if you were to pick a staffer on defense, who's
21:43
Speaker 1: impressed you the most going into this season?
21:48
Speaker 2: I mean Shams and Bates, right, I mean the defensive
21:53
Speaker 2: line group, it has to be. I mean, the defensive
21:58
Speaker 2: line is winning them football games. Yeah.
22:01
Speaker 1: So that Clemson and a lot Clemson right there.
22:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like when when that group was brought over, the
22:10
Speaker 2: entire vision was to build defensive lines and defenses similar
22:13
Speaker 2: to the days at Clemson, and those were units that
22:17
Speaker 2: I mean, the entire Clemson football team was known at
22:20
Speaker 2: points for having the best defensive line in football. Right,
22:27
Speaker 2: I think you have to. I think that that that's
22:32
Speaker 2: kind of where it starts for me, is it's like
22:35
Speaker 2: I guess I thought that this season. I knew the
22:40
Speaker 2: defense was going to be good. I thought the offense. Honestly,
22:43
Speaker 2: I thought the offense was gonna be a lot. I
22:45
Speaker 2: thought the offense is going to exceed expectations, but I
22:48
Speaker 2: questioned what the offensive line was going to look like
22:50
Speaker 2: with so many young pieces. I guess what I didn't
22:53
Speaker 2: factor in enough too, is it's like they have the
22:57
Speaker 2: best defensive line in college football and the amount of
23:00
Speaker 2: SEC offensive lines they have faced that are simply not
23:04
Speaker 2: prepared to go up against that defensive front. I don't
23:07
Speaker 2: know that I took that into enough consideration, because you know,
23:10
Speaker 2: I thought they would start out five and hl. I
23:12
Speaker 2: had them going unbeaten right out of the gate, and
23:14
Speaker 2: then I thought they were gonna snag three games of
23:16
Speaker 2: like South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, LSU, like that kind of group.
23:23
Speaker 2: I thought they were going to go on the road
23:24
Speaker 2: and lose to Alabama. Like. I don't think that was
23:27
Speaker 2: a hot take at the time, considering what had happened
23:29
Speaker 2: in the past and what Alabama looked like, but man, like,
23:34
Speaker 2: that's kind of my point is it's like when they
23:36
Speaker 2: got when they went through like South Carolina was overwhelmed
23:43
Speaker 2: on the line of scrimmage. Tennessee was overwhelmed at the
23:47
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Alabama was overwhelmed, overwhelmed at the line
23:54
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. And I guess that was the thing for
23:57
Speaker 2: me is I looked at these teams and I it
23:59
Speaker 2: wasn't me picking against Oklahoma. It was like, Man, I
24:01
Speaker 2: just think the world of all of these teams in
24:03
Speaker 2: the SEC. I think I thought they were all going
24:06
Speaker 2: to be playoff caliber squads. I did not anticipate these
24:10
Speaker 2: offensive lines in the league being that ill prepared to
24:13
Speaker 2: face the caliber of defensive line played Oklahoma specifically, and
24:16
Speaker 2: it has willed them towards the postseason.
24:20
Speaker 1: It has it's given. It's they're the ones that have
24:25
Speaker 1: controlled the destiny for Oklahoma. And I get and understand
24:27
Speaker 1: everybody wants the offense to heavily contribute and be this, this, that,
24:32
Speaker 1: and the other. I so get it. Like I don't
24:38
Speaker 1: even push back on everybody's mindset of I want Oklahoma
24:43
Speaker 1: to be able to blow teams out and shut the
24:48
Speaker 1: other team down. At the same time, I agree, I
24:51
Speaker 1: think at some point we'll get there. But just the
24:55
Speaker 1: fact that the defense is winning all of these games,
25:02
Speaker 1: to me says, this team is probably built ready to
25:06
Speaker 1: go for the playoffs. So, like I put together, Buddy,
25:11
Speaker 1: mine started this and I'm not kind of added to it.
25:14
Speaker 1: Bv's career defensive ratings and some of the top efficiency
25:17
Speaker 1: numbers got the ESPN's Defensive IF Defensive Efficiency Rating, which
25:22
Speaker 1: is from their Football Power Index guy the SP plus
25:25
Speaker 1: Bill Conley's number College Football References DSRs, which is the
25:33
Speaker 1: defensive Simple Rating system. They have the Football Efficiency Index
25:39
Speaker 1: Defensive Rating as well as Warren Sharp's Sharp D score.
25:46
Speaker 1: This is what a ratings defensive efficiency for DSRs four
25:51
Speaker 1: SP plus three FBI Defense four D score five, averaging
25:55
Speaker 1: about three point sixty seven. This lines up with Clemson
25:59
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, which had an average of three. That
26:04
Speaker 1: is bananas. And he did it even at a faster
26:10
Speaker 1: pace than he did at Clemson because at Clemson year one,
26:15
Speaker 1: the average of those five numbers I gave you Year
26:19
Speaker 1: one at Clemson in twenty twelve was about fifty one.
26:22
Speaker 1: Year two went to eighteen, Year three was nine, four
26:25
Speaker 1: was twelve, five was eight, and then he started to
26:28
Speaker 1: see one and a half one and a half where
26:30
Speaker 1: he's just literally the best defenses ever here He went
26:33
Speaker 1: from fifty nine to first year twenty eight average, the
26:36
Speaker 1: second year eighteen to third year to now three. That's
26:41
Speaker 1: a ji freak enormous drop c K. He put together
26:47
Speaker 1: a borderline historically great defense in his second year in
26:52
Speaker 1: the SEC, and that to me told me right there,
26:54
Speaker 1: if he could put together a good defense like this,
26:57
Speaker 1: he's built to be a SEC coach. And I think
26:59
Speaker 1: now he is proven that and has shut a lot
27:01
Speaker 1: of people up.
27:03
Speaker 2: Yes, So this is the other thing that I think
27:08
Speaker 2: we should probably talk about. It is the offense. So
27:15
Speaker 2: this is this is my stance currently. And you talked
27:18
Speaker 2: about like the national narrative and things that people are saying,
27:23
Speaker 2: and I get it. I've mentioned this here on the
27:28
Speaker 2: show before, I said it in other places, but like,
27:31
Speaker 2: I really want to hammer this home. And it's like,
27:35
Speaker 2: I understand that it is very easy to look at
27:41
Speaker 2: what's going on on Saturdays and say Oklahoma's offense is
27:45
Speaker 2: bad or whatever. I get that. I'm not gonna do that.
27:50
Speaker 2: Why because and you know this as well as anybody,
27:54
Speaker 2: the idea that like Oklahoma doesn't have an identity to
27:58
Speaker 2: me is fraudulent. To me, that tells me that you're
28:00
Speaker 2: not watching and following along. And why I say that
28:05
Speaker 2: is simply put, we know this team wants to run
28:08
Speaker 2: the football and play defense. That's the winning recipe that
28:11
Speaker 2: they showed against Tennessee. They don't have a running back
28:18
Speaker 2: that's healthy right now that they rely on that they
28:21
Speaker 2: just trust right, they don't have that man. And like
28:27
Speaker 2: everyone I know, everyone can say the offensive struggled, and
28:30
Speaker 2: I agree with you that has happened. They would tell
28:33
Speaker 2: you that with this idea that like they have no
28:35
Speaker 2: identity or that you know they don't they don't know
28:37
Speaker 2: what they're doing, or they won't run the ball enough.
28:40
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, Tory Blaylock is playing football games
28:43
Speaker 2: at times without a shoulder.
28:45
Speaker 1: I'm watching him do this run into the sideline.
28:48
Speaker 2: Xavier Robinson played a game on a sprain knee. I
28:53
Speaker 2: don't know how many of us in our daily lives,
28:55
Speaker 2: let alone playing running back would be all that effective
28:58
Speaker 2: on a sprain knee. Like they're just they know what
29:05
Speaker 2: they want to do, they can't do it. That's what
29:07
Speaker 2: no one's talking about, is they can't. They physically are
29:10
Speaker 2: unable to do what they would like to do on
29:12
Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball. And so I get
29:15
Speaker 2: frustrated with this narrative that like, the offense is terrible. No,
29:20
Speaker 2: the offense just they don't have the luxury of doing
29:25
Speaker 2: what they would prefer to do in game, and they're
29:27
Speaker 2: they're really just trying to survive the last couple of
29:32
Speaker 2: weeks on the heels of an elite defense and special
29:35
Speaker 2: teams group. And hey, it worked. That said, do not
29:41
Speaker 2: be surprised if they do get healthy and to your point,
29:45
Speaker 2: being built for the playoff. If there's a world where
29:48
Speaker 2: guys like Xavier Robinson and Tory Blaylock get three weeks
29:51
Speaker 2: of rest and come back relatively full strength, and all
29:55
Speaker 2: of a sudden, this team gets to run the football,
29:58
Speaker 2: play defense, and lean on special teams. You saw what
30:01
Speaker 2: can happen when they can win the field position battle,
30:05
Speaker 2: when they can play a league defense, and they can
30:07
Speaker 2: lean on the run game and let that young offensive
30:09
Speaker 2: line in those talented backs go out and make football plays.
30:15
Speaker 2: Don't be surprised if an entire month of talking head
30:19
Speaker 2: saying the offense sucks get suddenly gets turned around because
30:22
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they have a running back whose
30:24
Speaker 2: health bar isn't in the red. That's actually my opinion.
30:28
Speaker 1: The offense's field position start was thirteenth in the country
30:37
Speaker 1: before the LSU game. I think has actually gotten better.
30:40
Speaker 1: Defensive field position start was ranked number one in the country.
30:51
Speaker 1: We basically the way that they were sitting on the
30:56
Speaker 1: field positioning itself was just great. Mm hmm, and we've
31:02
Speaker 1: taken advantage of that in every play. So, like, let
31:06
Speaker 1: me see offensive, actually offensive dropped to seventeen. Defensive rank is.
31:14
Speaker 2: But why did they drop over the last couple of weeks.
31:17
Speaker 2: Oh maybe because I don't know, couldn't run the damn ball.
31:22
Speaker 1: Right, That's exactly it. And it's okay that that happens.
31:28
Speaker 1: But that's the crazy part is they're just that good
31:34
Speaker 1: non garbage time. They put the ball in some of
31:38
Speaker 1: the best spots. Overall, they're eighth in the country and
31:42
Speaker 1: just in total field positioning, in location metrics, they like
31:49
Speaker 1: I said, we lean in on defense, special teams and
31:52
Speaker 1: burning the clock with a run game. Now, the big
31:55
Speaker 1: thing is if now that jo Mateer has two to
31:58
Speaker 1: three weeks to truly go through treatments, does that mean
32:05
Speaker 1: that he's gonna magically see the field. Probably not, but
32:09
Speaker 1: I bet he's gonna be damn better now than he
32:11
Speaker 1: was before, because he'll have time, he'll be working with
32:16
Speaker 1: those wide receivers and everything on his body is no
32:20
Speaker 1: longer going to be in the red meter like in
32:22
Speaker 1: college football, his wearing terror will drop. It'll probably go
32:25
Speaker 1: at least a lot of spots green with a couple
32:27
Speaker 1: of yellows, which is not which is exactly what you want.
32:30
Speaker 1: After that, of course, the competition will have similar for them,
32:33
Speaker 1: but Oklahoma is more dangerous than everybody else because just
32:37
Speaker 1: the defense is just that darn could just that darn stout.
32:41
Speaker 1: So so.
32:43
Speaker 2: That that for me is kind of where it's like
32:46
Speaker 2: it ain't about the run game or like the lack
32:48
Speaker 2: or whatever. Oh they're not calling up It's like, no,
32:50
Speaker 2: they can't. That's the right thing though for me is
32:53
Speaker 2: it's like I don't want it to seem like I'm
32:56
Speaker 2: saying they have a good offense or what you know
32:59
Speaker 2: what I mean, like I'm sunshine pumping. The very simple
33:04
Speaker 2: nature of it is like they don't have a healthy
33:06
Speaker 2: running back. They try to make it work, and they
33:09
Speaker 2: have a quarterback right now, who, on the other hand,
33:12
Speaker 2: has got to play better. He has got to play better.
33:17
Speaker 1: And I think he will. I think he will. I warned, everybody,
33:22
Speaker 1: I gonna hear me say it's over and over. I warned, y'all,
33:24
Speaker 1: dudes will turn the battle over. That's literally his game.
33:27
Speaker 1: His game is slinging it into tight spots sometimes where
33:31
Speaker 1: you're like, dah, don't do that, But then he'll complete
33:33
Speaker 1: it and you'll be like, Aye, yeah, you'd be excited
33:37
Speaker 1: about it because because it was funny to me. C K,
33:41
Speaker 1: I'm at the game, and two things that I have
33:45
Speaker 1: asked about this entire season in my head actually came
33:49
Speaker 1: to fruition in the same game. It's still the widest
33:52
Speaker 1: thing to me. One ask often, how come we can't
33:57
Speaker 1: get busted plays? How come we can't unfused defenses where
34:01
Speaker 1: dudes just run wide open and score. You get the
34:05
Speaker 1: Dion Burks screenplay where its covers zero and there's just
34:10
Speaker 1: nobody there even thinking about it, and John throws a
34:13
Speaker 1: sidearm that we freak out about that was perfect to
34:17
Speaker 1: keep the pass from being knocked down, because that's how
34:21
Speaker 1: you stop those screen pass like that is, whenever they
34:23
Speaker 1: want to throw it, you jump in the air and
34:24
Speaker 1: you knock it down. Couldn't do it because he throws
34:26
Speaker 1: it sidearm perfectly.
34:28
Speaker 2: Burk's bolts.
34:30
Speaker 1: Then you have the four verts that they were initially
34:32
Speaker 1: going for and realized what the defense was setting sitaneus
34:35
Speaker 1: only when that goes deep, because the safety goes to
34:36
Speaker 1: the opposite direction, and guess what sitting there? Just hey, guys,
34:41
Speaker 1: and John sees it. He knew it was coming as
34:42
Speaker 1: soon as he hiked it. He saw it. He waited,
34:44
Speaker 1: he looked off that safety, and then he lobbed it.
34:48
Speaker 1: You're like, yes, the other one was. I have noticed
34:53
Speaker 1: this that other teams use the refs as screeners for
34:57
Speaker 1: them across the middle. I have wondered why so many
35:02
Speaker 1: people were open across the middle on us so often,
35:05
Speaker 1: And it was always them running the route that got
35:08
Speaker 1: close to the ref and we trying to go around
35:11
Speaker 1: them and they end up open. We did that. Giovanni
35:16
Speaker 1: dropped it. But and I'm Dance Magazin. It's like, but
35:23
Speaker 1: I had wondered why we couldn't get some of the
35:25
Speaker 1: why can't we have nice things?
35:26
Speaker 2: C K.
35:27
Speaker 1: That was what I was wondering, Why can't we have
35:29
Speaker 1: nice things like that? And we got it, which of
35:32
Speaker 1: course impresses me the most that at some point this
35:37
Speaker 1: is gonna pop. At some point, We're gonna have a
35:39
Speaker 1: bit another. I mean, we've had a few hundred yard
35:41
Speaker 1: games rushing where everything clicked on all cylinders. We'll have
35:46
Speaker 1: more of that. We should see that in the playoffs.
35:51
Speaker 1: Personally I expected, but I'm just happy to see that
35:58
Speaker 1: we finished the season two into in a year where
36:02
Speaker 1: everyone really thought that there was no way. Hell, I
36:07
Speaker 1: remember seeing fine Baum, Paul Finebaumb over there say that
36:11
Speaker 1: if Oklahoma can finish nine and three, they should be
36:13
Speaker 1: in the conversation for the playoffs if they win one
36:19
Speaker 1: of the big road games, just because now, like you said,
36:22
Speaker 1: all we're hearing is almost ten and two, they shouldn't
36:25
Speaker 1: be in there. We won on the road at Nailing
36:28
Speaker 1: and in freaking Tuscaloosa four and on the road.
36:38
Speaker 2: And LS.
36:38
Speaker 1: You're not even a bad defense. That's the funny part.
36:41
Speaker 1: They got like the best corner in the country. They
36:45
Speaker 1: got dudes, got dude They got athletes all over the place. Now,
36:48
Speaker 1: they may not be organized, but they gott dudes on
36:53
Speaker 1: that defense. That's why Blake Baker is being trying to
36:55
Speaker 1: be poached by everybody to go work for them. They
36:59
Speaker 1: got they got, they got dudes, and they ball out
37:03
Speaker 1: so we close out the w I'm happy about that
37:07
Speaker 1: season's done. We're gonna do I'll do probably after college,
37:14
Speaker 1: after conference championship weekend, the you know awards and give
37:19
Speaker 1: out who performed what or whatnot. So let's talk about
37:24
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38:07
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38:11
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38:21
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38:23
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38:25
Speaker 1: I mean it is a Saints, right, you know, a
38:27
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38:29
Speaker 1: Devin Neil could be a problem, but I'm not gonna
38:31
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38:33
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38:37
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Speaker 2: C K.
39:16
Speaker 1: We got the Pettit signature at the end. Yeah, but
39:20
Speaker 1: signing day's not over to a Friday. BB mentioned something
39:25
Speaker 1: about getting a receiver. I think he was talking about
39:27
Speaker 1: Pettit because he wasn't had to sign yet. But I
39:29
Speaker 1: know that they have been sniffing around others. You think
39:33
Speaker 1: the class is done?
39:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I think I think it will be twenty four,
39:41
Speaker 2: And then I think that sniffing around the preferred walk
39:46
Speaker 2: on market isn't completely out of the question. But I mean,
39:53
Speaker 2: you saw constantly that they were saying, hey, the twenty
39:57
Speaker 2: six classes in I think that was intense, and then
40:03
Speaker 2: you saw a Naggie essentially say yeah, we've got a
40:05
Speaker 2: really really good twenty six group moving on at twenty seven.
40:10
Speaker 2: So I personally believe that you're you're pretty much going
40:15
Speaker 2: to be set through February with this class, And I
40:20
Speaker 2: mean there could be a name or two that's added,
40:22
Speaker 2: maybe more on the PWO front, Like I mentioned, I mean,
40:27
Speaker 2: of the few remaining guys that are even available still
40:30
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, it's hard for me to put
40:33
Speaker 2: those puzzle pieces together with the So.
40:37
Speaker 1: No, that's fair. I mean, I think the only one
40:40
Speaker 1: that I really looked at was was Gross over there,
40:43
Speaker 1: and he's at Florida now, so that's a done deal.
40:45
Speaker 1: That's out. But there's not very many for us, So
40:49
Speaker 1: it feels like the portal's going to be busy for
40:52
Speaker 1: us this year in just adding additional pieces. So from
40:56
Speaker 1: that though, how did you how you feel about the
41:02
Speaker 1: class ranked in the top twenty, which is good solid
41:06
Speaker 1: blue chip ratio. How you feel about the class, and
41:10
Speaker 1: what's a player that you feel like is probably gonna
41:14
Speaker 1: jump and get a has a great shot of taking
41:19
Speaker 1: snaps as a freshman.
41:25
Speaker 2: Man well as far as playing early as as true freshman.
41:32
Speaker 2: The two that I would immediately go to would be
41:34
Speaker 2: on the offensive side, and I think it's why you
41:36
Speaker 2: saw Oklahoma push for them so heavily down the stretch.
41:39
Speaker 2: It's Jaane Petite and it's and it's Jonathan Hatten junior.
41:42
Speaker 2: And I think that this class, a really solid class.
41:47
Speaker 2: I have a ton of like football theory, recruiting, nerd
41:51
Speaker 2: takes that I could go through because you know, this
41:55
Speaker 2: is my this is my world, this is my realm.
41:59
Speaker 2: But to answer the natural question, you know, it's really
42:04
Speaker 2: hard to judge a group based on who you think
42:07
Speaker 2: is going to play early because you really don't know
42:09
Speaker 2: until they actually get on a college campus and you
42:12
Speaker 2: start getting feedback on how they handle that environment.
42:16
Speaker 1: Yep.
42:17
Speaker 2: But I personally believe that when you look at Jamee Baetitz,
42:19
Speaker 2: who's six foot four, well above two hundred pounds, having
42:23
Speaker 2: one of the more dominant senior seasons in the state
42:26
Speaker 2: of Florida at the receiver position, you will find and
42:28
Speaker 2: then Jonathan Adden junior, whose self report a growth of
42:34
Speaker 2: up to six foot one and two hundred and twenty
42:36
Speaker 2: pounds as a running back. Like, yeah, and it is
42:42
Speaker 2: typically easier for freshmen to play further away from the football, right,
42:50
Speaker 2: It's harder to do so when you're on the lines
42:52
Speaker 2: of scrimmage or you know, sometimes it can be really
42:55
Speaker 2: difficult for like corners to play early. Even though Courtland
42:59
Speaker 2: Gillery debunking that we have a lot of fresh corners
43:03
Speaker 2: across college football who are debunking that theory.
43:06
Speaker 1: They are.
43:08
Speaker 2: I think that I think that Hatten his size, his speed,
43:14
Speaker 2: the running style, and the way that he is made
43:21
Speaker 2: from a mentality standpoint, and again physically as well, he's
43:25
Speaker 2: ready to go petite, I think is a real opportunity
43:28
Speaker 2: as a true freshman as well. I mean, I know
43:32
Speaker 2: the Elijah Thomas stuff got thrown around a ton, but
43:36
Speaker 2: that guy has development to get done. I think the
43:39
Speaker 2: petite certainly there's development there as well. His size and
43:45
Speaker 2: the skill set that he brings to the table is
43:47
Speaker 2: a little bit different, which gives him an advantage. So
43:51
Speaker 2: those would be the two krawl Maybe we'll see. I
43:55
Speaker 2: think it would be pretty impressive if he's able to
43:58
Speaker 2: work through that quickly and defensive end room that's as
44:01
Speaker 2: load as the one is they currently have.
44:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ja Crowl is the one that I've been saying
44:07
Speaker 1: that I think has a chance of rotating as a freshman.
44:10
Speaker 1: I don't think starting, I agree, but rotating absolutely. He's
44:14
Speaker 1: gonna jump some folks because he's walking in six three
44:17
Speaker 1: two forty. You know, he's walking in already ten pounds
44:23
Speaker 1: less than our Mason with an additional inch in height
44:27
Speaker 1: he adds. Probably he's probably gonna add with with the
44:30
Speaker 1: work ethic. Based upon what we've seen, he's gonna add
44:34
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds of just raw strength and muscle. He may
44:40
Speaker 1: go out there and be already around almost too sixty
44:44
Speaker 1: before the season starts and be ready to ball at
44:47
Speaker 1: that size. That would be ridiculous. I don't know if
44:52
Speaker 1: he will, but if he maintains his speed, his bend,
44:55
Speaker 1: his ability to get low and get under and still
44:59
Speaker 1: with weight, it's gonna be hard to keep him off
45:02
Speaker 1: the field. So yeah, I think rotating, Yes, But I
45:05
Speaker 1: agree with you ondre Precent. Those were my two. If
45:07
Speaker 1: I think anybody's gonna walk out there and play, it's them.
45:10
Speaker 1: I love Daniel Odham. I just don't think that he's
45:13
Speaker 1: physically gonna be there yet. He shocked me. I don't
45:18
Speaker 1: think physically there. But Jonathan Hatten is talk about down
45:21
Speaker 1: here now. He broke me. Man, that's the back. That
45:24
Speaker 1: is the player I was the most excited about. I
45:26
Speaker 1: ain't been excited about a player like that, honestly since
45:30
Speaker 1: I've been covering the team, like I'm excited about players.
45:32
Speaker 1: That dude turned my head immediately and it's it's funny
45:36
Speaker 1: because all of his highlights is him just running past everybody.
45:41
Speaker 1: But you can tell that it's not because it's just
45:43
Speaker 1: him being fast or the holes is just that big.
45:45
Speaker 1: It's just he's physically imposing. Walking in sixty one two
45:48
Speaker 1: twenty is gonna be absurd yep, immediately. I mean that's
45:52
Speaker 1: walking in like Xavier Robinson did, who walked into two
45:54
Speaker 1: thirty and was looked really good when he got into
45:58
Speaker 1: the game. When he's healthy, I mean x Rob has
46:01
Speaker 1: given us great stuff, and he of course he's a soldier.
46:04
Speaker 1: He's gonna play through his pain. But health is always
46:07
Speaker 1: a critical thing. You may get that from Hatton, but
46:11
Speaker 1: him walking in with with Blaylock as well as x Rob,
46:18
Speaker 1: it's a three headed monster to get you excited.
46:20
Speaker 2: Yeah.
46:21
Speaker 1: Period. So yeah, I agree with you there. I can't
46:27
Speaker 1: even argue any of that. I think underrated recruit is
46:32
Speaker 1: probably the most interesting question. Who's the one that people
46:38
Speaker 1: are probably gonna sleep on a lot more than they should.
46:44
Speaker 2: There's a number of directions that I could go here.
46:50
Speaker 2: It's very tough to single out one individual as far
46:53
Speaker 2: as like underrated HM. I will say that I am
47:01
Speaker 2: fascinated by what Tyler Rutsher can become. I think that
47:09
Speaker 2: again as like a scouting evel nerd when they say
47:15
Speaker 2: they were just skimming track times online and he popped
47:18
Speaker 2: up as a tight end, Like, yeah, that.
47:22
Speaker 1: Is the funniest thing in the world. While at the
47:24
Speaker 1: same time one hundred percent checks out to exactly what
47:27
Speaker 1: I would expect that of him.
47:28
Speaker 2: That I'll go quickly through just a couple of names
47:32
Speaker 2: that I think aren't getting talked about a ton that
47:34
Speaker 2: I do believe there's a lot of like fashion fascination
47:40
Speaker 2: factor there for me. You talk about ruckster six four
47:43
Speaker 2: to two, twenty runs track and field, played corner in
47:47
Speaker 2: high school. Uh yeah, I'm good with that. How many
47:52
Speaker 2: tight ends you know are playing corner?
47:56
Speaker 1: That part fast enough to play corner, fast enough to
47:59
Speaker 1: play corner that is the most important thing.
48:01
Speaker 2: Granted the level of competition there, He's gonna have an
48:05
Speaker 2: adjustment period. I'm not saying Tyler Rusher tomorrow as a monster,
48:09
Speaker 2: but like he has a lot of physical tools and traits.
48:13
Speaker 2: He checks out track and field, you know, the multi
48:16
Speaker 2: sport background, but also two phase ability things like that. Dude,
48:24
Speaker 2: Dame be Thurst, son of a Navy seal. Mom and
48:31
Speaker 2: dad were both collegiate swimmers in the Big ten YEP
48:37
Speaker 2: at Minnesota. And then sister yes is at Virginia mm hmm,
48:47
Speaker 2: and she won the ACC championship in like the eight
48:51
Speaker 2: hundred or something like that. I can't even remember, but
48:54
Speaker 2: comes from a family that all competed at the collegiate
48:57
Speaker 2: level and swimming. Father was again, you know, a seal.
49:02
Speaker 2: And then Dame Thurst has been recruited for most of
49:06
Speaker 2: this cycle as an edge moving a player like that
49:10
Speaker 2: to inside linebacker very intriguing in my opinion. And then again,
49:18
Speaker 2: there are so many others and I hate just like
49:20
Speaker 2: singling out in individual guys like I like Deacon Schmid,
49:24
Speaker 2: I like Juiceer Rogers. I think that Derek Johnson does
49:29
Speaker 2: not get enough love for his background. But I think
49:34
Speaker 2: I'm most curious to see what Daniel Norman becomes m
49:40
Speaker 2: Because he's undersized, he will have a lot of developing
49:45
Speaker 2: to do in order to become more of like a
49:47
Speaker 2: complete player. But you know, typically at twenty four to seven,
49:53
Speaker 2: when there's an eighty seven grade on a guy, it's
49:57
Speaker 2: not a blanket statement, but typically and there's an eighty
50:00
Speaker 2: seven three. That means that, hey, there are some high
50:02
Speaker 2: ceiling trades here. There's a floor that may may be
50:06
Speaker 2: pretty deep, but there are also trades that belligibly. This
50:10
Speaker 2: recruit could you know, skyrocket And I think that's kind
50:14
Speaker 2: of Daniel Morman in a nutshell because it's six four
50:16
Speaker 2: to two O five. You love the hip and ankle flexibility,
50:22
Speaker 2: the ability to bend, run the hoop, get up and
50:27
Speaker 2: under an offensive lineman, and scream off the edge. There
50:32
Speaker 2: is a DPR floor there, in my opinion, designated pass
50:37
Speaker 2: rusher to where he has what it takes, if properly developed,
50:45
Speaker 2: to give you a like a serious problem on third down. Now,
50:51
Speaker 2: what he can become like from an overall standpoint, I
50:54
Speaker 2: think that's what's up for debate, right, But that's why
50:56
Speaker 2: I'm so curious in what he could be because if
50:59
Speaker 2: he turn out to be like a multi sac player
51:01
Speaker 2: for them, that's a win. Agreed.
51:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that Brian Harris is one for me.
51:12
Speaker 1: I really think that he's gonna be your next graceon Holton.
51:17
Speaker 1: He has a chance to develop there even faster like
51:22
Speaker 1: I think watching him play, And I love that Naggy
51:29
Speaker 1: pointed this out with the way they were doing things.
51:33
Speaker 1: They were recruiting guys that are not only physically imposing,
51:38
Speaker 1: but violent. They were wanting dudes that run through walls,
51:45
Speaker 1: run through other players to get to that ball like
51:50
Speaker 1: they are. The tenacity behind the way that they play
51:55
Speaker 1: this game, the way that you see dudes try to
51:58
Speaker 1: take other dudes block off with each shot. I see
52:04
Speaker 1: it in a lot of them. Brian Harris as well
52:08
Speaker 1: as was that Christian Moore. They give me the I
52:15
Speaker 1: would like for you to not get up from this
52:17
Speaker 1: hit vibe. Please stay on the ground or I may
52:22
Speaker 1: have to do it again.
52:24
Speaker 2: Jandro brothers in there as well for sure.
52:26
Speaker 1: Yep. And it's all respectfully too. You can tell him
52:30
Speaker 1: do it all in a respectful way. Could you please
52:32
Speaker 1: stay on the ground. If you get up, I'm gonna
52:34
Speaker 1: have to hit you again. Please just natural. So, yeah,
52:41
Speaker 1: Harris intrigues me because of the way that we're doing this.
52:44
Speaker 1: Defensive line. Carrington, I've watched him for a while, so
52:49
Speaker 1: I know with him it's a he needs to get
52:54
Speaker 1: his He just needs to make sure his weights up
52:57
Speaker 1: and continue his technique. Since he didn't get any taller
53:00
Speaker 1: he hit, he kind of peaked. Hogh wise pretty early
53:04
Speaker 1: in his career to know that he was a five
53:06
Speaker 1: star as a like a freshman or sophomore or whatnot.
53:11
Speaker 1: So it's more of a he's not gonna go prove
53:13
Speaker 1: all the doubters wrong type deal. But like you mentioned
53:18
Speaker 1: the Jandro brothers, I'm really intrigued at where they both
53:25
Speaker 1: end up. I know one's a linebacker, ones of safety,
53:27
Speaker 1: but at the same time, they both play at such
53:30
Speaker 1: a speed that they're gonna take somebody's heads off. Simply put,
53:37
Speaker 1: this defense is not gonna change from what we've been
53:39
Speaker 1: seeing this year from Kendall Daniels, Michael Boganowski, and Reggie Powers.
53:43
Speaker 1: Dudes are gonna get leveled on a consistent basis with them.
53:47
Speaker 1: I just hope we do a better job of minimizing
53:52
Speaker 1: the collateral damage in practice because we're probably gonna have to. Yeah,
53:58
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to pull a Signetti and be like, yeah,
54:00
Speaker 1: we're not gonna practice as hard on each other because
54:05
Speaker 1: I don't need people getting hurt. This is concussion written
54:11
Speaker 1: all over it. This is hit stick written all over them.
54:15
Speaker 1: Mark markel Ford same thing. Yeah, all these defenders have
54:21
Speaker 1: your block is knocked off written all over them.
54:23
Speaker 2: The exact verbiage the Venables used was He'll rip your
54:27
Speaker 2: soul out for markel Ford.
54:33
Speaker 1: So that's a physically imposing defense if you imagine if
54:37
Speaker 1: you see that once, you say, I have seen the
54:38
Speaker 1: hits come through, Like I mean, I joked about it
54:42
Speaker 1: in the first last couple of classes, like yeah, man
54:45
Speaker 1: ventibles getting these hitters with motor blah blah blah. No,
54:47
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see no for real, Like they're for
54:50
Speaker 1: real going after dudes that have no fear running through people.
54:54
Speaker 1: But again, you know, to have the level of physicality
54:59
Speaker 1: on this defense, they will be collateral damage. And it
55:01
Speaker 1: collateral damage is your offensive players probably need to protect
55:06
Speaker 1: them a little bit better this time. What's your thoughts
55:11
Speaker 1: on is easy.
55:13
Speaker 2: I like him a lot. I like him a lot. Man.
55:21
Speaker 2: You know, there was a world where they were probably
55:24
Speaker 2: not going to sign an in state player, and I knew,
55:28
Speaker 2: I knew that that was going to be a thing.
55:30
Speaker 2: I didn't much care that. Being said, I'm like, I
55:36
Speaker 2: mean again, when you look at the physical makeup at
55:39
Speaker 2: six foot four, two hundred plus pounds, you talk about
55:44
Speaker 2: the multi sport background being a standout hooper, yep, and
55:49
Speaker 2: you look at that body type and that skill set,
55:54
Speaker 2: like that he's kind of him and him and Petite
55:58
Speaker 2: are like the body types of they're missing right now.
56:01
Speaker 2: You know, they have carry on. But like, I don't
56:06
Speaker 2: think that Carrion is the athlete that Petite and Zz are.
56:14
Speaker 1: I don't think many Choices either, even though many choices closed,
56:16
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that caliber of athlete.
56:20
Speaker 2: I think Choice and Carrion are really good football players.
56:28
Speaker 2: I think I think Petit and Zz are transformers. Like
56:36
Speaker 2: they have the physical build in some of the ability
56:41
Speaker 2: that like is God given that it's just like you
56:45
Speaker 2: have you would need to like build that, you know,
56:49
Speaker 2: and it's not something you can teach. Yeah, they just have.
56:54
Speaker 2: Like I think the freakazoid label has been thrown out
56:58
Speaker 2: there by Brenton. I think Parker maybe you know, freak
57:03
Speaker 2: azoid or what like whatever you want to call him,
57:07
Speaker 2: you know. I just feel like they do things that
57:12
Speaker 2: it's like a creative player type of type of thing.
57:16
Speaker 2: And Ze. Look, I'll say this for zz it will
57:19
Speaker 2: probably take a little while because he's only been in
57:22
Speaker 2: the game for a couple of years and there is
57:26
Speaker 2: going to have to be like a physical recomposition because
57:33
Speaker 2: of the style he plays and what is going to
57:36
Speaker 2: be asked him on the perimeter. He's going to be
57:38
Speaker 2: needing to add some weight and then he's going to
57:40
Speaker 2: need to balance that with you know, the athletic ability
57:43
Speaker 2: and the the catch radius and the vertical. But yeah,
57:50
Speaker 2: man again like they've got this, They've got like this
57:54
Speaker 2: sci fi movie ability to him. That is just freak
57:58
Speaker 2: azoid ish as people are saying.
58:00
Speaker 1: So I see it. I see the vision with that,
58:05
Speaker 1: see the vision with that, Like, yeah, he did get
58:07
Speaker 1: what he could be another quote unquote Nick Candorsson type. Yeah,
58:11
Speaker 1: you get him around two ten, maybe closer to two twenty,
58:15
Speaker 1: which you can put in that kind of weight, you know,
58:17
Speaker 1: with the way Schmidy puts him the work, he could
58:20
Speaker 1: be that type of player, a health the healthy version
58:23
Speaker 1: of Nick. I can see it. Petite. Yeah, watching his
58:36
Speaker 1: tape in the way he was balling in Florida, that's
58:43
Speaker 1: LSU level talent to me. At wide receiver. That's one
58:49
Speaker 1: of them dudes that they've produced. Now he's gotta give
58:54
Speaker 1: him the ball. Yeah, that's all I gotta do is
58:57
Speaker 1: give him the ball. So, I like Bo Bentley, I
59:03
Speaker 1: think he needs some seasoning. But I do like him
59:07
Speaker 1: a lot. I think he fits this offense a lot
59:11
Speaker 1: better than Jay O'Neill did. Yeah, yeah, they want to
59:17
Speaker 1: you know. You know, Buckle wants a quarterback is gonna
59:20
Speaker 1: run often in the RPO game. He wants that to
59:24
Speaker 1: be a danger. So I got it.
59:30
Speaker 2: Boa BoA's I mean, Bo is one of my guys.
59:35
Speaker 2: I have a lot of belief in that guy. Obviously
59:38
Speaker 2: they did as well. They took a risk. He kind
59:41
Speaker 2: of took a risk on Oklahoma too, and those bets
59:44
Speaker 2: kind of paid off for everybody, which is exciting. But
59:48
Speaker 2: like I think it is very cool that when you
59:52
Speaker 2: factor in the storyline and the risk that everybody took,
59:56
Speaker 2: like Oklahoma got their guy at quarterback, he he as
1:00:00
Speaker 2: an Ou fan, is gonna go play it at Oklahoma
1:00:05
Speaker 2: and realized a childhood dream and his brother is gonna
1:00:08
Speaker 2: go play baseball at Oklahoma. Like it just worked out.
1:00:14
Speaker 2: And Bo Bo's got a lot of talent. Bo's got
1:00:19
Speaker 2: a lot of natural ability. He's a dude, but he's
1:00:22
Speaker 2: also very easy to root for. And I look forward
1:00:26
Speaker 2: to seeing him in Norman because, like, I believe in
1:00:30
Speaker 2: that guy, and I think Oklahoma did too, which is exciting.
1:00:32
Speaker 2: To see him land in the class and it speaks
1:00:35
Speaker 2: to that, like, you know, he I don't think he
1:00:39
Speaker 2: missed a home game this year, Nope, I heard.
1:00:41
Speaker 1: I heard that he was literally at every game.
1:00:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, that's dope.
1:00:48
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1:00:51
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1:00:55
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1:00:59
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1:01:02
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Speaker 1: But like you said, you get to put your feet
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Speaker 2: You know, they might the Oklahoma may be get more
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Speaker 2: I will I will be watch some high school football,
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