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Chuck and Buck 10-3 Hour 4: Hugh Millen and Ryon Healy · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: All right, nine o'clock hour here on this football Friday,
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Speaker 1: the nine o'clock hour here on this Friday. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: chat with Ryan Healey at nine point thirty today about
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Speaker 1: the mariners upcoming series against the Detroit Tigers. But nine
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Speaker 1: o'clock that's typically reserved Fridays for our QB one. Hugh
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Speaker 1: Millan now joins us here on Chuck and Buck in
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Speaker 1: the Morning. Hello, sir, it's great to be with you.
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Speaker 1: Good morning. Are you fired up for a little baseball
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Speaker 1: maybe this weekend?
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Speaker 2: Maybe? Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I love playoff baseball, Okay, okay, yeah, I think it's
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Speaker 3: gonna be a nice juggle.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: We don't get these kind of weekends often. And you know,
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Speaker 3: it's funny. I was gonna go into the spreadsheet and
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Speaker 3: try and put some numbers to the idea that the
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Speaker 3: Mariners seem like they are streakier this year than they
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Speaker 3: have in the last handful.
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Speaker 2: They've had more.
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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how you'd quant fight, but
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Speaker 3: they've had more. Really lousy stretches and more really elite stretches.
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Speaker 3: I think it's been abnormal in that regard. So obviously
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Speaker 3: the finish this season up on a real high in
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Speaker 3: that sense, and you know, hopefully they can retain it.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's dive right into some Seahawks talk.
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Speaker 1: Then they're taking on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers quality opponent
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, start at one five there, and there's a
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Speaker 1: lot to discuss with these two teams. I think are
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Speaker 1: very good teams, both of them. And let's go ahead
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Speaker 1: and start with the Seahawks and their passing game right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Sam Darnold's been humming so far this season
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Speaker 1: for the team, but hasn't really been asked to carry
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Speaker 1: the majority of the load either. So what are you
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Speaker 1: seeing and is he possibly ready to maybe take that
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Speaker 1: next step and shoulder more of the offensive load.
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Speaker 3: Well, you're right, And numbers to that point is Seattle
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Speaker 3: is number one in the percentage of called running plays.
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Speaker 3: Now they're too, number two in run plays, but that
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Speaker 3: includes scrambles. But but yeah, they're they're not asking them
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Speaker 3: to throw a lot. But here here's some stats for you.
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Speaker 3: If you go percentage of completions ten or more yards.
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Speaker 3: Sam Donald number one in the NFL. The percentage of
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Speaker 3: of his passes that are first downs or touchdowns, Donald
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Speaker 3: is number three. The NFL has an off target percentage
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Speaker 3: in their stat portal, so you can look that up.
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Speaker 3: Sam Donald is number one in avoiding, so meaning the
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Speaker 3: least number of off targets number one, not just total
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Speaker 3: the gross because that would speak to how often you're thrown.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying the percentage of his throws that are off target.
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Speaker 3: Sam Donald is is the best in that regard red
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Speaker 3: zone turnovers, Donald's you don't want to have a low number,
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Speaker 3: you want to have a big number. In this one,
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Speaker 3: he's twenty fifth. And by the way, Geno was first.
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Speaker 3: Again for those who are engaging in that discussion. Here
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Speaker 3: here's an interesting set. I put it in in the portal.
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Speaker 3: The NFL still has it with my email attached to it,
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Speaker 3: so any coach who wants to look it up. I
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Speaker 3: thought it was interesting air yards divided by time to throw,
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Speaker 3: and I did this a few years ago. But the
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Speaker 3: idea of being if you can just say, okay, imagine
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Speaker 3: a quarterback he's got he's got a fair amount of
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Speaker 3: time and to throw? How many yards is he producing
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Speaker 3: given a certain amount of time to throw, Like, like,
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Speaker 3: you don't want to see a guy back there holding
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Speaker 3: the ball, holding the ball, holding the ball, and then
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Speaker 3: he just checks down for a three yard checkdown, Like
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Speaker 3: that's not that's not the quarterback and we'd love to see.
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Speaker 3: So Sam Donald's number one in air yards per time
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Speaker 3: to throw, So some some cool stuff going on with him.
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Speaker 3: I think that the big question will be, as you
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Speaker 3: alluded to in your question, you know, are they going
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Speaker 3: to put more on his plate?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Well, yesterday we had our round table thing, and I
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Speaker 4: big round table. Well it's a big round table. Well,
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Speaker 4: I'm sitting at the table. I didn't say a whole
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Speaker 4: heck of a lot, but you kind of laughed a
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Speaker 4: little bit when I said the biggest part of the game,
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Speaker 4: obviously is whether or not a guy named Bucky plays,
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Speaker 4: because that is almost unstoppable.
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Speaker 2: Again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go again.
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Speaker 4: I'm not even trying to be funny, breed Love, but
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Speaker 4: it sounds like he's not going to be out there.
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Speaker 4: I read reports that he was on crutches and in
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Speaker 4: a boot most of this week and didn't practice yesterday,
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Speaker 4: But that still doesn't mean that they can't run the ball.
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Speaker 4: They have the Rashad guy and Rashad White, and so
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Speaker 4: I'm curious your thoughts on the running attacks for both
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Speaker 4: of these teams.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think.
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Speaker 3: Let's start with the Seahawks, and we talked about their
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Speaker 3: propensity fifty two point six percent run play a percent,
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Speaker 3: that's number one. Buccaneers are at thirty nine percent. They're seventeen.
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Speaker 3: Their middle of the road in that regard the yards
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Speaker 3: per rush. Here here's Seattle is trying the hardest to rude.
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Speaker 3: But at three point six yards per tempt they are,
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Speaker 3: that's twenty eighth in the league. The Buccaneers at four
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Speaker 3: point four.
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Speaker 1: They're there.
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Speaker 3: They're again in the middle. So basically this Buccaneers are
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Speaker 3: dead middle in the pack in terms of their frequency
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Speaker 3: and their effectiveness. Seattle is is tops in terms of
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Speaker 3: their frequency and near the bottom in terms of the
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Speaker 3: effective This has got to change.
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Speaker 1: And this is a.
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Speaker 3: Stat that that I don't think that Canine is gonna
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Speaker 3: like yards after contact per rush The Sea Yarks are
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Speaker 3: twenty seventh. Now that isn't all just on the running back.
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Speaker 3: That could be that there's a whole bevy and army
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Speaker 3: of tacklers at the time when they come to h
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Speaker 3: to tackle, and I think that that's mostly the case.
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Speaker 3: But Canine for the first time kind of ticked me
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Speaker 3: off against the Cardinals. Oh gosh, there's a the safety
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Speaker 3: four or the corner the nickel guy for the Cardinals,
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Speaker 3: number thirty four. He's at cougar anyways, five eleven. What's
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Speaker 3: the nonsen Jalen Tom, thank you, well, well done on you. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: there is a play where can I had a beautiful
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Speaker 3: play up the middle and then he bounced it outside.
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Speaker 3: And just like no two snowflakes are the same. I
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Speaker 3: don't think any two rushing situations are the same. A
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Speaker 3: running back has to process. Hey, how many more yards
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Speaker 3: can I get near the sideline? What's the type of
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Speaker 3: player you know? And and what's the angles coming at
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Speaker 3: If he's at front of me and there's two guys, Okay,
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Speaker 3: step out of bounds because you're gonna get lit up.
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Speaker 3: But if you've got a five eleven, one hundred and
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Speaker 3: ninety pound nickel guy coming at you from the side,
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Speaker 3: you can you can drop your shoulder and and finish
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Speaker 3: with with the explosiveness at the end. You can get
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Speaker 3: another four or five yards. And look, maybe some coaches say, hey,
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Speaker 3: I'm fine with you going out of bounds because it
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Speaker 3: keeps you healthy, preserves your career.
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Speaker 1: I think that, okay, all right, we're gonna have to
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Speaker 1: reconnect or something. I was going to try to wait
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Speaker 1: that out, but sometimes it just like clears up and
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Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, like a pimple.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes it's internet like it was like a sneeze
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Speaker 4: and then he's back.
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Speaker 1: But that was going on a little too long and
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Speaker 1: it was making me uncomfortable. But Hugh mellin is with us.
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Speaker 1: It's our x's and o's segment right here is we
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Speaker 1: have got a lot to break down Before Seahawks Buccaneers
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Speaker 1: play on Sunday. We were in the midst of talking
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Speaker 1: about both teams running games. As the Seahawks I think
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Speaker 1: have to get their running game going in this game.
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Speaker 1: It feels essential. I mean, it's one of those things
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Speaker 1: I think that you can work around in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League, but not against quality defenses, not against something
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Speaker 1: like Tampa Bay where they're ninth versus the pass and
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Speaker 1: fifth versus the run and fourth overall they're just too
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Speaker 1: well bound. So you've got to be balanced too to
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Speaker 1: counteract that. All right, he was back with us, and
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Speaker 1: he was in the midst of talking about the running
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Speaker 1: game situation. So I don't know if you remember where
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Speaker 1: you left off, but the floor is yours again, sir.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No.
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Speaker 3: I just think that Canine, probably for this first time,
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Speaker 3: irked me when he ran out of bounce, and I
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Speaker 3: just think you could get a good debate with coaches. Hey,
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Speaker 3: some guys are fine with going out of bounds. I
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Speaker 3: think on that play he looked a little too much
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Speaker 3: like a quarterback. And you know, I don't know, I'd
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Speaker 3: probably had to get that off my chest. More fans
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Speaker 3: speaking here than anything, but I thought he left certainly
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Speaker 3: three yards maybe four or five on the table there.
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Speaker 2: So I'd like to see him, as Pete Carroll used.
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Speaker 3: To refer to, you know, close the circle physicality for
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Speaker 3: the football team. I think it's inspiring to his teammates
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Speaker 3: when a guy runs tough, and I think he's got
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Speaker 3: to pick that up near the sideline. Let's not be
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Speaker 3: come on, Franco, let's stay in bounce, Let's finish the run.
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Speaker 1: Franco a shot at Frank Oharris right there at the
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Speaker 1: very end. I heard that is that acceptable? Hugh Milan
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Speaker 1: is with us. We're talking some x'es and o's. Baker
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Speaker 1: Mayfield's an interesting character Highs and Lowe's in his career,
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Speaker 1: but he's on a little bit of a heater right now.
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Speaker 1: And man, you were talking about a guy doesn't give
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Speaker 1: up on a play. Sometimes it gets him in trouble
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Speaker 1: and sometimes it ends up making fantastic plays. What's your
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Speaker 1: take on Baker Mayfield the twenty twenty five version and
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Speaker 1: how difficult he's going to be to defend.
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Speaker 3: Well, he's third in scramble yards in the league, so
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Speaker 3: you've got to contend with his legs. I think he's inclined.
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Speaker 3: As he said, he's kind of a swashbuckler. I mean
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Speaker 3: his Pro Football Focus has a turnover worthy play. Baker
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Speaker 3: Mayfield is five point one percent. Meanwhile Sam Darnold is
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Speaker 3: his zero point nine percent, right, So I mean he's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, five six times and as likely that's a
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Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus grade. The NFL and their stat portal,
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Speaker 3: they have interceptions plus interceptions dropped and Baker is fourth.
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Speaker 3: That's a number that you'd prefer to have, you know,
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Speaker 3: from a Tampa Bay perspective, that's putting the football in
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Speaker 3: harms way. He's thirty first in completion percentage, although I
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Speaker 3: think that's more of a reflection that more to your
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Speaker 3: propensially to throw the ball down the field in your accuracy.
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Speaker 3: But the past success thirty first, passer rating eighteenth. But
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Speaker 3: this is what silis to continue with attempts air yards
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Speaker 3: ten ten plus from the line of scrimmage, he's fourth.
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Speaker 3: Twenty plus yards down the field, he's second. He's going
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Speaker 3: to push the ball down the field. In terms of
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Speaker 3: the completions on twenty or more yards, he's fifth non
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Speaker 3: red zone passing touchdowns. Baker Mayfield number one in the NFL.
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Speaker 3: So there's some aspects that that Seal's going to have
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Speaker 3: to contend with. Now here's here's something to look look for.
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Speaker 3: The Buccaneers have felt like Kate Dotton is kind of
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Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl level.
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Speaker 2: Ish type of tight end.
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Speaker 3: He has not been untracked and and they would look
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Speaker 3: at the Sea Hawk defense in this regard when opponent
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks throw to wide receivers. Now this is this could
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Speaker 3: be even have fantasy implication for some people. When opponent
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks throw to wide receivers, they have just a forty
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Speaker 3: eight passer rating, but when opponing opponent quarterbacks throw to
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Speaker 3: tight ends, the passer rating is one hundred and five.
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Speaker 3: So Seal's got to be better at that. Tampa Bay
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Speaker 3: may be induced to throw and get Kate Otten more
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Speaker 3: involved because they feel like that's a little bit of
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Speaker 3: a missing piece. So let's see how much the Tumbwater
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Speaker 3: product has in store for us on Sunday.
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Speaker 4: Tumbwater, We're dangerous, all right? Well, since you laughed twice
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Speaker 4: now at me and the importance that I put on
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Speaker 4: trying to stop someone named Bucky, I'm gonna go to
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Speaker 4: something maybe you won't laugh at. How how big of
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Speaker 4: a of a fun factor is the return of nick
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Speaker 4: Emon worry for coach McDonald in this defense.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's it's a mystery. I know that
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Speaker 3: he wants to involve him a lot. I don't want
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Speaker 3: to overplay the versatility piece too much because a lot
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Speaker 3: of what they're gonna ask him to do with him
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Speaker 3: being the nickel is uh, it's just something that nickel
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Speaker 3: guys do. You know, some occasionally nickel guys go in
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Speaker 3: the back end. But you know, I I if I
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Speaker 3: was evaluating him and and preparing for the Seahawk defense.
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Speaker 3: I would just say he's been he's the nickel sam
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Speaker 3: most teams play uh predominant. In fact, all teams. This
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Speaker 3: is a nickel league. It's taken over the position of linebacker. Now,
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Speaker 3: his versatility is that, you know, he's a you know,
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Speaker 3: he's a big, long guy, and so he can cover
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Speaker 3: tight ends. We just talked about Kate Otton. We'll see
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Speaker 3: if if if if that factors. But he's quick enough
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Speaker 3: and agile and fast enough. He has makeup speed. I
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Speaker 3: think he's faster than he is quick. So so if
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Speaker 3: he kind of if they match him up against a
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Speaker 3: quicker player, maybe he has a uh A quickness deficit,
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Speaker 3: but he'll have a length and top speed surplus, and
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Speaker 3: so how they use him is going to be very interesting.
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Speaker 3: We talked about how in just those four plays that
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Speaker 3: he's played thus far, the one time Seattle played man
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Speaker 3: and man because they're not a big man and man team,
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Speaker 3: but Emon Worry was lined up.
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Speaker 2: Covering Christian McCaffrey.
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Speaker 3: So I think that that that was a statement to
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Speaker 3: the belief in what he can do.
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Speaker 2: So, uh, I don't.
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Speaker 3: I know that they're going to use him in a
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Speaker 3: lot of different ways, particularly with Witherspoon apparently out. So uh,
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Speaker 3: and that's that's kind of a subject Mike Homgrin had
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Speaker 3: talked about and we had talked about in the draft.
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Speaker 2: Draft.
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Speaker 3: When you draft the little guy, you know, how durable
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Speaker 3: is he going to be? Well, now we're starting to
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Speaker 3: see some injuries surface with Witherston, so that's something to
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Speaker 3: keep an eye on. But I think that that changes things.
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Speaker 3: You can see Emon worry you know, probably more of
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Speaker 3: them than me, maybe even you thought you were going
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Speaker 3: to see. But I think he's gonna be mostly a
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Speaker 3: nickel outside linebacker.
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Speaker 1: We're doing x's and o's on a Friday with you
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Speaker 1: Millon right here, ur QB one on Chuck and Buck
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Speaker 1: in the morning. So I wanted to close out by
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Speaker 1: talking about another rookie, A Mecca, a BOOKA makes his
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Speaker 1: return to Seattle way too long away. Should have never
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Speaker 1: gone to Ohio State. That was clearly a mistake. I
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Speaker 1: just fell on his face there with that program. That no,
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Speaker 1: that's a no, no, no good program. I'm just curious,
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Speaker 1: how well did you know him when he was a
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Speaker 1: high school star and why did you let him go
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Speaker 1: to Ohio State?
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Speaker 2: Well, I actually know him really well.
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Speaker 3: He was on a seven on seventeen shout out to
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Speaker 3: Reggie Jones and air and and uh my son was
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Speaker 3: was a quarterback for him for three years and uh
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Speaker 3: one you know, did a lot of traveling Vegas tournaments,
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Speaker 3: Orange County, you know, back east, and and got to
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Speaker 3: know him really well. Uh, I can't rave enough about
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Speaker 3: him the person. And uh the time that I was
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Speaker 3: talking to him, he seemed convinced he was going to
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Speaker 3: go to Stanford. Real bright guy, uh goliering guy. And
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Speaker 3: and uh I thought it was gonna be a Stanford cardinal.
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Speaker 3: But but in the end, I think Brian Hartline and
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Speaker 3: that wide receiver lineage was just too much for him.
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Speaker 3: Obviously had a great career, and so Seattle's gonna have
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Speaker 3: to contend. I had said when he was drafted that
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Speaker 3: the the similarities with him and Jackson Smith and Jigba
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Speaker 3: are just uncanny in terms of their size, their attributes,
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Speaker 3: their intelligence, their ball tracking ability, Uh, run after the catch.
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Speaker 3: It it's almost like a mirror player. Now, I did
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Speaker 3: note uh a fact that will contradict that a little bit.
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Speaker 3: While a Mecca has been in the slot eighty seven snaps,
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Speaker 3: he's been wide one hundred and fifty one. So the
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Speaker 3: corners for Seattle are going to have to deal with
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Speaker 3: this guy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. I mean he's off of just a
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Speaker 1: tremendous start this year, not playing like a rookie, had
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Speaker 1: a great camp, and he's just carried it right over.
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Speaker 1: Do you have any like personal stories like anything from
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Speaker 1: you know, your son, Was he one of those people
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Speaker 1: that ate chewing gum off the bottom of the bleacher
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Speaker 1: or anything like that.
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Speaker 2: You know, he was so selfless, he was. He was fantastic.
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Speaker 3: But probably the memory that makes me smile is, so
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Speaker 3: we're go down to play in Atlanta in a tournament
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Speaker 3: and you had to have won some tournaments locally or
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Speaker 3: placed high in the tournaments locally to qualify.
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Speaker 2: But they go down to.
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Speaker 3: Play a tournament in Atlanta in Mercedes Benz Stadium where
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Speaker 3: the Falcons play, and so they're playing. They had the
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Speaker 3: pool play and now they're in playoff play and so there,
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Speaker 3: you know, loser out type portion of the of the
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Speaker 3: weekend and they're playing the top team from Florida and
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Speaker 3: it comes down to the end and.
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Speaker 2: It's a tie.
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Speaker 3: And the way in those tournaments they do, you know,
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Speaker 3: because they got to keep things going. They have one
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Speaker 3: team starts at the forty going into one side. One
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Speaker 3: teams starts at the forty.
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Speaker 2: That's for all.
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Speaker 3: That's for all games, so that you can play two
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Speaker 3: games on one field. But for the overtime portion, it
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Speaker 3: was a one play playoff or I should say two
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Speaker 3: play playoffs. Each team gets the ball for one play
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Speaker 3: in how many yards can you get on one play?
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Speaker 3: So obviously you want to go second, but we lose
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Speaker 3: the coin toss, and so the idea is you try
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Speaker 3: and get like an eight or nine or ten to
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Speaker 3: twelve you are completed, and then play defense and win
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Speaker 3: the play because it's just how many yards can you
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Speaker 3: get in one play? Well, the defense comes up with
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Speaker 3: safety comes down on the slot, a mecca's on the outside,
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Speaker 3: and so my son audible lies to a play with
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Speaker 3: a mecca on a deep post and so as he's
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Speaker 3: going back. And by the way, Courtney Taylor was the
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, the former Siaka wide receiver. He was like
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Speaker 3: a you know, hammer down to all gas, no breaks.
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Speaker 2: But the head coach is kind of defense goes, why
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Speaker 2: do we do it? Like he was just freaking.
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Speaker 3: Out as the balls in the air and and so
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Speaker 3: a Mecca catches this ball about four yards deep in
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Speaker 3: the end zone on a one play. Now you just
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Speaker 3: got to play defense and of course, you know, prevent
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Speaker 3: a touchdown from the forty yard line.
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Speaker 2: And so so.
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Speaker 3: That play really won that game. And it is pretty
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Speaker 3: dramatic because you just don't see a guy crank it
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Speaker 3: up and throw, you know, fifty yards in the air,
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Speaker 3: fifty five yards in the air into the middle of
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Speaker 3: the end zone on an overtime play. But you know what,
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Speaker 3: when you have a Mecca, you know that he has
18:54
Speaker 3: that finishing style and he showed it on that play.
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Speaker 3: Hopefully he won't show it on Sunday, that's.
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Speaker 1: Right, keep him out of the end zone on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, you, thank you, sir. We appreciate it,
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Speaker 1: and we'll check in with you, all right.
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Speaker 2: Having a good weekend.
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Speaker 1: All right, here we are on this Friday. Normally we're
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Speaker 1: talking Mike Homer and here in this segment, but coaches,
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Speaker 1: you know what you guys need to embrace your base right,
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Speaker 1: that's right, so we're talking baseball and joining us now
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Speaker 1: on the program. I bet he's never pinch it for
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Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren before in his lifetime. Probably pinch it for
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Speaker 1: a couple of you know, dignitaries in the baseball world,
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Speaker 1: but never for Mike Homberan joining us as former Mariner
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Speaker 1: third Basement and you're gonna be hearing a lot from
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Speaker 1: him during the course of these playoffs and joining us
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Speaker 1: to preview the series starting tomorrow. Ryan Healy is with
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Speaker 1: us here on Chuck and Buck. Good morning, sir, Good morning.
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Speaker 2: How we doing?
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Speaker 1: Then we're doing? All right? How are you doing?
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Speaker 6: I'm living the dream. I'm excited to be here with
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Speaker 6: you guys today. I'm excited for Mariners playoff baseball to
20:56
Speaker 6: start this weekend and sitting on pins and needles, but
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Speaker 6: I'm excited to her talking baseball.
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Speaker 1: Do you guys all right, well, let's dive right in
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Speaker 1: then let's talk about this matchup. But do you like
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Speaker 1: this matchup the Tigers for the Mariners.
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Speaker 6: I'd like the seeding how it's shaked out for where
21:12
Speaker 6: the Mariners got the week off to really rest and recover.
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Speaker 6: Obviously they didn't finish great against the Dodgers in that series,
21:18
Speaker 6: but after the excitement against the Rockies of clinching not
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Speaker 6: just the wild car but also the division, I think
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Speaker 6: it was time for a little bit of a breather,
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Speaker 6: to reset, refocus, and everything that I'm seeing and reading
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Speaker 6: right now, it just seems like they're executing this downtime
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Speaker 6: really well. So I'm excited to see how they come
21:34
Speaker 6: out tomorrow with the energy. The home crowd's really gonna help.
21:38
Speaker 6: And I'm hoping that the Seattle faithful or really excited
21:40
Speaker 6: for playoff baseball because I know football season is here
21:43
Speaker 6: as well. We got some competition, but I think the
21:45
Speaker 6: Mariners need one hundred and ten percent of what Seattle's
21:47
Speaker 6: got to offer.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, the city is turned on. We got
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Speaker 4: a guy Softy that does the afternoon shows. I hopefully
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Speaker 4: you haven't had to talk to him yet, actually talk
21:57
Speaker 4: softly already softy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a uniform in this city. You've talked to something. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's probably true.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And yet he did some posts that was like
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Speaker 4: if you only had one on Sunday, you could just
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Speaker 4: watch the Seahawks or Mariners. It was like ninety percent
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Speaker 4: and thousands of voters. Ninety percent were saying baseball, so
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Speaker 4: that the city has turned on for baseball. It's that
22:16
Speaker 4: time of year when you were talking about how they've
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Speaker 4: handled the time off, and I agree, I think the
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Speaker 4: time off is good. But then there becomes the argument
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Speaker 4: of rest versus rust. I mean, I don't necessarily buy
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Speaker 4: into that a whole heck of a lot. What's your
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Speaker 4: take on rest versus rust?
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Speaker 1: It's out of your control.
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Speaker 6: You battle all year, for six plus months straight to
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Speaker 6: win the division, to earn the time to rest. At
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Speaker 6: this point, it's got to be a choice of how
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Speaker 6: are we going to attack it. We can choose to think, yeah,
22:44
Speaker 6: we might get little rusty guys, we're gonna be a
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Speaker 6: little cautious and maybe you overdo it this week, or
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Speaker 6: we can really steer into it of guys.
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Speaker 1: We earned this.
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Speaker 6: We battled for one sixty two and pulled this off
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Speaker 6: the last week. It's all about the mindset. And the
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Speaker 6: same conversation goes for our opponent now, Tigers. They could
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Speaker 6: have dragged their blankets into that wild Card series and
23:03
Speaker 6: felt sorry for themselves for blowing a fifteen and a
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Speaker 6: half game lead, but they didn't. They battle, They played
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Speaker 6: clean baseball, and they beat a really hot Guardian's team.
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Speaker 6: So what are the Mariners going to choose? They have
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Speaker 6: the ability within the clubhouse to do that. In what
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Speaker 6: I'm hearing out and Julio said this specifically the experience
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Speaker 6: that we have from being in the playoffs a few
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Speaker 6: years ago to now with the similar bodies, the additions
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Speaker 6: of other guys that have experienced of the playoffs at
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Speaker 6: Josh Naylor, they're choosing to choose the rest over the
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Speaker 6: rust because they know they're prepared for this and now
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Speaker 6: it's time to go execute.
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Speaker 1: Did you like the scrimmage idea? Do you think that
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Speaker 1: that would have worked? Yeah?
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Speaker 6: I think the live pitching is the most important aspect
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Speaker 6: and I saw that. I think Gino and Cal hit
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Speaker 6: homers in the game. And then they talked about the
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Speaker 6: significance of what those homers would have mended. They happened
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Speaker 6: a week ago of sixty one and fifty and I
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Speaker 6: laughed at that, and I'm like, yeah, okay, cool. But
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Speaker 6: also I tell this to young players as well when
23:54
Speaker 6: they go through injuries like see live pitching, go standing
23:56
Speaker 6: in bullpens, standing in flat grounds. The fact that you
23:59
Speaker 6: can actually swing against your arms, how good is that
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Speaker 6: pitching staff too, Guys like you can go to get
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Speaker 6: bats off of the best pitchers in the Major League Baseball,
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Speaker 6: Like you're gonna stay tuned to, eyes are gonna be fresh,
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Speaker 6: and you're gonna be ready to go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, obviously you be in a position player.
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Speaker 4: You understand the difference and how much more important position
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Speaker 4: players are versus the group of non athletes. Well, let's
24:19
Speaker 4: just get somebody a fellow, I mean a fellow, a
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Speaker 4: position player. He's gonna get the joke with just calling
24:24
Speaker 4: them non athletes. But this group of non athletes or
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Speaker 4: stud pitchers that the Mariners have, I mean, that's got
24:30
Speaker 4: to be a pretty good feeling, I would imagine for
24:33
Speaker 4: the group of position players.
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Speaker 2: Knowing that you.
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Speaker 4: Don't have to go out there and put a ton
24:37
Speaker 4: of pressure on every A. B just go grind out
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Speaker 4: some AB's push a couple of runs across because of
24:41
Speaker 4: how good these these arms are.
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Speaker 6: You, Bucky, think about this too as a position player,
24:46
Speaker 6: because I got the joke. I can't say my response
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Speaker 6: alive on the radio, but we'll talk about that later.
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Speaker 6: A think think about the soreness that you have as
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Speaker 6: a position player. You you kind of get into this
24:56
Speaker 6: numb state of playing every day where the body is
24:59
Speaker 6: just always sore to some regard, but you move through it.
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Speaker 6: The minute you stop moving. That first day after you
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Speaker 6: feel like you got hit by a train like it
25:06
Speaker 6: probably took these position players two to three days to
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Speaker 6: flush some of that soreness out that the long season brought,
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Speaker 6: and then by Wednesday Thursday, they're feeling a little bit better. Today,
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Speaker 6: my guess is they're all waking up feeling light on
25:17
Speaker 6: their feet, ready to go. And then tomorrow the adrenaline
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Speaker 6: is gonna add to that and they're gonna be playing
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Speaker 6: at one hundred percent of whatever they have to offer
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Speaker 6: at that point in time.
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Speaker 1: Maybe not as great as athletes, but you guys know
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Speaker 1: always the ladies men, the pitchers, they always yeah, yeah,
25:30
Speaker 1: they always did.
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Speaker 4: The chicks like goofy, especially lefties that their pants go crooking.
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Speaker 2: They love that.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Heay is with his former Mariner helping us preview
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Speaker 1: the Mariners Tigers series, which starts tomorrow. What do you
25:43
Speaker 1: make of the Tigers and what kind of challenges Trek
25:48
Speaker 1: Schouble potentially pitching forty percent of these games.
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Speaker 6: I know, it's the fact that he could go two
25:53
Speaker 6: of these five games is It's something you have to acknowledge.
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Speaker 6: And if you look at the way that the Guardians
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Speaker 6: beat him late in the season, how many balls left
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Speaker 6: the infield to score a couple runs that they did
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Speaker 6: like and he still got ten ten plus punches like
26:04
Speaker 6: it's it's not going to be the Mariner's brand of
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Speaker 6: baseball this season of We're gonna walk, get guys on,
26:10
Speaker 6: and then do some hit some big boy homers. I
26:12
Speaker 6: don't anticipate that happening. Terrek Scoople's too sharp, So how
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Speaker 6: do we play clean defense? But when you look at
26:17
Speaker 6: these teams matched up side by side on paper, they
26:20
Speaker 6: are dead even in a lot of categories, both offensively, defensively,
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Speaker 6: and then pitching wise. That's the testament to how strong
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Speaker 6: the Mariners perform the second half, and then how strong
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Speaker 6: the Tigers performed the first half. Who's gonna show up
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Speaker 6: during this series is gonna be really important. But for me,
26:37
Speaker 6: I was always told the major leagues, you're not gonna
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Speaker 6: make your money off of the ace of a staff.
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Speaker 1: You really gotta.
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Speaker 6: Eat the lunch of the three, four, five guys in
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Speaker 6: a rotation. So if my mindset is, if we can
26:48
Speaker 6: grind out one of those two games against Google, even
26:51
Speaker 6: if we get the second, we don't need to have
26:53
Speaker 6: the second.
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Speaker 1: If we can.
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Speaker 6: Grind out one of those games against Google, then take
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Speaker 6: care of the two, three four guy like we're supposed to,
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Speaker 6: then this Mariner's series should be clean and well executed.
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Speaker 2: In my opinion.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's been a bunch of years where
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Speaker 4: the well, I shouldn't say a bunch, but the last
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Speaker 4: couple of years pitching staff's been stellar. There's been some
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Speaker 4: studs in the lineup, and then there's been holes in
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Speaker 4: the lineup as well. I'm curious just your take when
27:17
Speaker 4: it comes to the lack of pressure that you feel
27:20
Speaker 4: when you all of a sudden feel like you got
27:22
Speaker 4: a long lineup, when you all of a sudden feel
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Speaker 4: like it's kind of one through nine can have grinder
27:25
Speaker 4: AB's anybody can go yard, it doesn't. That could create
27:29
Speaker 4: a little bit less pressure per ab for these guys
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Speaker 4: because they know they don't have to go get it
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Speaker 4: done like maybe they've felt they had to the last
27:36
Speaker 4: few years.
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Speaker 6: One hundred percent. If you look at Julio's number specifically
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Speaker 6: the first half or second the first half or second
27:42
Speaker 6: half of the season, there's something that clicks with him
27:45
Speaker 6: in the second half, and I don't know, you know,
27:46
Speaker 6: if he got hot before the additions and then kind
27:48
Speaker 6: of settled in one of the two big boys of
27:50
Speaker 6: Suarez and Naylor came in. I just think you have
27:53
Speaker 6: a lot of professional at bats one through nine in here,
27:56
Speaker 6: and guys that understand what their role is and how
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Speaker 6: to execute it really well. There's the guys that are
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Speaker 6: taking their shots and they're gonna punch out. But this
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Speaker 6: is the bat that I watched last week of Josh
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Speaker 6: Naylor hitting the bases clearing double I believe to clinch
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Speaker 6: the division or was that the wild card that day?
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Speaker 1: It goes back to back days that was the division night.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay that but to bring a picture in I
28:17
Speaker 6: think it was wild card. It was the first day,
28:19
Speaker 6: but to bring a brand new pitcher in the first
28:21
Speaker 6: pitch was ninety nine almost through the backstop, The second
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Speaker 6: pitch was nowhere near, and then the third pitch was
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Speaker 6: up and a way and he went with it to
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Speaker 6: left center. You just see guys that understand how to
28:29
Speaker 6: command a strike zone. And this team has a tremendous
28:32
Speaker 6: walk percentage and they know how to lead the yard,
28:34
Speaker 6: but they also know how to put together some tremendous
28:36
Speaker 6: at bats. And you think about the secret weapon this
28:38
Speaker 6: Marriagers team has Randy a Rose Arena. Do you remember
28:41
Speaker 6: how he came on the scene when he was with
28:43
Speaker 6: the Rays that COVID year. Guys, we have that guy
28:46
Speaker 6: in our starting lineup.
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Ryan Healy is whether So let's
28:53
Speaker 1: not even let scoobale pitch twice, Let's just win it
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Speaker 1: in three or four. What do you say? You said it?
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Speaker 1: I think that's the plan that I'm going on with. Yeah. Yeah, Hey,
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Speaker 1: by the way, I like the the post career Scruffy
29:05
Speaker 1: got going on there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, Charlotte, it's not as good as BUCkies. I
29:10
Speaker 6: got a few more gaps in mind, that's for sure.
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Speaker 1: But you know what.
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Speaker 6: Good things take time.
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Speaker 4: Hey, it just you're not old enough yet. Eventually you'll
29:18
Speaker 4: get there, by the way, I like the you got
29:19
Speaker 4: beltray in the background. Is that big poppy? And who's
29:22
Speaker 4: the one in the middle of your head's blocking that you.
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Speaker 1: That I try to block down?
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Speaker 4: Mine must be over in the corner My jersey must
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Speaker 4: be over in the.
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Speaker 6: Corner a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just out of frame makes sense.
29:34
Speaker 6: I got each rows hung up in the closet. I
29:35
Speaker 6: need to get a frame on that ace app.
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Speaker 2: A good one to hang.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you know we we might know some people
29:41
Speaker 1: with the Mariners. They could get it signed for you
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Speaker 1: if you wanted. Yeah, I got, I got too signed
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Speaker 1: by each row?
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Speaker 2: Is that right?
29:47
Speaker 1: One?
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Speaker 6: Was opponent? And I got Ken Griffy Junior signed one
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Speaker 6: as well. Did you guys see that that each row
29:52
Speaker 6: is playing right field in the scrimmages? Yeah, he cannot
29:55
Speaker 6: stay off the field. He probably looks sharp as ever
29:58
Speaker 6: route there as well.
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Speaker 4: He was given the no fly He was giving Julio's
30:01
Speaker 4: no fly zone thing too after he caught one.
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Speaker 1: I bet you he's holding out hope that he makes
30:05
Speaker 1: the roster.
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, here's a go I remember him catching King
30:10
Speaker 6: Felix's bullpens in twenty nineteen when we were all rehabbing.
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Speaker 6: He was literally catching bullpens for Felix. Her name to this,
30:17
Speaker 6: like what, yeah, one of a kind. All right, man, Well,
30:22
Speaker 6: great having you on again, and we'll do this. We'll
30:24
Speaker 6: do this throughout the postseason. If that's all right with you.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate the opportunity, man, all right.
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Speaker 1: Former Mariner Ryan Healey joining us right here on Chuck
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Speaker 1: and Buck in the morning. We'll close out the week
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