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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, November ninth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Michigan State game is in two days. The game
- 0:06against Michigan in sixteen days. Today is a Ross Fulton Show, which means
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- 0:32with our buddy, Ross Fulton, one of Bucket hurdles X's and nose Gurus.
- 0:35We're talking about the Ohio State offense, the play of quarterback Kyle McCord,
- 0:40and the improved run game with the return of Trevion Henderson. The offense
- 0:44has definitely been lagging a little behind the defense for much of the year,
- 0:48but it does feel like there has been some tangible progress the last couple of
- 0:51weeks. Ross, Let's start with just the play of Kyle McCord. You
- 0:56posted on our board earlier this week. People will think a little uncertain how
- 1:00to grade that performance out. It felt like, you know, you seem
- 1:03like you were you were relatively positive on his play, and you know,
- 1:07there was a lot of criticism about him checking down in the first half and
- 1:11you know, not taking shots downfield. But I guess in some cases that
- 1:15you know, the safe play is the correct play. Yeah, I mean,
- 1:19obviously, I guess your your mileage can differ in terms of like how
- 1:23much you think a quarterback should push and slash force the football downfield into soft
- 1:30coverage versus taking what's available. You know, I just cal McCord is.
- 1:34I think it's a tough one for this modern environment because like he's pretty good.
- 1:40I think like his QBR is like, you know, like eleventh or
- 1:42twelfth in college football, and I think that's probably right around like where he
- 1:46is. Like he's not, you know, he's not an All American level,
- 1:51he's probably not a first team All Big Ten level, but he's like
- 1:53he's plays pretty well, so like you can catch certainly like every game he's
- 1:57had plays where you want them to have back and he has some inconsistency,
- 2:01and he's consistently been better in the second half than the first half. But
- 2:07like, you know, I think he is. I do think he's making
- 2:12strides. I think I continue to sort of beat the horse that you know,
- 2:16there's this common refrain out there like oh, high Stayed has all these
- 2:21weapons, like this is you know what's going on? We're wasting them on.
- 2:23I'm like, you know, do they really like again, we had
- 2:27another game, like Kate Stover was out, Like we'll talk about what Rutgers
- 2:30are doing, but it would have been really helpful to have Kate Stover down
- 2:32the scene against all the cover two they were seeing, you know, a
- 2:37Mecca Buka to me did not look super healthy still like I thought he was.
- 2:42You know, they're trying to obviously get his feet underneath them and hopefully
- 2:45he continues to improve on his ankle. I think Xavier Johnson has a role,
- 2:50as we've talked about. I don't think he is a NFL caliber receiver.
- 2:53I don't think Chilian Fleming is, although he does Yeoman's effort as a
- 2:57blocker and Carnel tap they're obviously using him more and more in his place,
- 3:01but still freshman. So again, it's not twenty twenty one with you know,
- 3:07three first rounders at wide receiver. And I do think the running game,
- 3:12though, is becoming more and more important, which which will help.
- 3:15Particularly they're they're seeing this weird dichonomy where at the beginning of season, I
- 3:19think they really wanted to rely on the run game and they're getting super heavy
- 3:23boxes, and now as they've as the season's gone on, it's kind of
- 3:25flipped. In the last couple of weeks, they've seen quite a bit of
- 3:29split coverage and lighter boxes, and you know, fortunately for them, they're
- 3:32able to run against those fronts when they're evened up, and I think the
- 3:37run game diversity is making a big help in that. All Right, So
- 3:40let's start taking our look at Kyle McCord and his play. We start with
- 3:45some we've talked about a number of times before, the sale concept, and
- 3:49this is one of these checkdowns. And you know, they were it sounded
- 3:52like the broadcast, I guess was a little bit critical of this. But
- 3:53what did you what did you think of this play? Yeah, so again,
- 3:57like this, going back, I kind of alluded to this or as
- 4:00Ryan Day said postgame, Wruckers was playing a ton of very soft split safety
- 4:05coverage, quite a bit of cover two both like regular cover two in Tampa
- 4:10and quarter quarter half, which is cover for the field, cover to the
- 4:14boundary as they run here on this play, and they were basically like cloud
- 4:18covering, so like sagging underneath, particularly when Marvin Harrison was to the side,
- 4:23as we'll get into, like they would either lock him, so they
- 4:26would man Harrison almost like a box and one in defense and play zone on
- 4:30everyone else, and so as you kind of get a bracket or they would
- 4:33like they're underneath. The fenders were cognizant of where Harrison was at all times.
- 4:36It would it would get depth with him. But so here's an example
- 4:42of as you said, like the broadcast was like, well, Harrison's wide
- 4:44open. He checked it down, but like if you see it, and
- 4:46it's a little hard to see from the TV copy, they did get the
- 4:49replay, but in the quarter quarter half, the cornerback is actually trying to
- 4:55bait this throad to Harrison like he is ready to pounce on it. He's
- 5:00trying to sag off but his eyes and the whole time around eighteen and I
- 5:03do think McCord saw that and checked it down in terms of how he was
- 5:08coming up. I mean, I do think there are examples of like where
- 5:12he could have probably tried to take the whole shot early meeting, like you
- 5:15know behind the cuver two corner that's in the flat and in the deep safety
- 5:19like those you know smash concepts that they kept using, or like this deep
- 5:24out this one though it was it was dicey because I can see what he's
- 5:28thinking. Maybe he could have still fitted in there even with them baiting it,
- 5:30but it is it was somewhat similar situation to what happened against Wisconsin where
- 5:36that corner on the interception on McCord's second interception in that game, or the
- 5:41corner purposely laid back off off of Harrison and then kind of and tried and
- 5:46jump the pass. So they are again like a healthy I like beating a
- 5:53dead horse at this point, but like healthy other options because you know,
- 5:56they teams are definitely doing things that would just even within the coverages they are
- 6:00running, they are very cognizant of where Harrison is and are trying to do
- 6:04things to take him away well. And so the first the first play we
- 6:11just talked about there kind of McCord caught a little flak for not throwing it
- 6:15to Marvin Harrison the next play he caught a little flag forth throwing it to
- 6:18Marvin Harrison and ended up getting intercepted. But you know, I on the
- 6:23field, I'm down on the field and I do not have a great angle,
- 6:26and I thought, boy, that was not a good choice there.
- 6:28But it looks like after watching it, it looks like it was maybe not
- 6:32a bad choice, but just bad execution on the throw more than anything else.
- 6:39Yeah, I actually think that, Like, you know, again back
- 6:41to the more general mccor discussion, I think he does a good job of
- 6:46reading the coverages and dissecting where to go with the football, like a lot
- 6:48of times at Ohio State, you know, especially against Rutgers, who was
- 6:53changing up coverages. I mean they did this a lot to c J.
- 6:55Stroud last year too, And I say, I had some issues throwing the
- 6:59ball just be at the super soft zones. But like so, Ohio State
- 7:02would pair. But then you know, Rutgers would have sporadically mixed in a
- 7:05man coverage blitz like the one the big you know, the unfortunate sack at
- 7:11least from the ISA perspective, where they you know, were driving the ball
- 7:14after scoring the possession before and then they you know, all of a sudden
- 7:18there in second to nineteen because Trevon Henderson did not pick up the pressure correctly,
- 7:24Like that was a cover zero, so they threw they throw that in
- 7:27occasionally, so Ohio State often was like pairing a cover two beater is the
- 7:32concept, so like things that are good against cover two to one side with
- 7:34like a man coverage to the other side, you know routes. And I
- 7:40generally think McCord would get to the right side of the field. Again,
- 7:43Like as I said, I think you can quibble sometimes with whether he should
- 7:46have pushed it downfield more this one he does. Again, I agree it's
- 7:49the right read. This is a smash concept. So it's like a basic
- 7:53cover two beater, right, You're like you're getting a two on one against
- 7:57the cover two corner in the flat, so you like have an underneath hitch
- 8:00rout told that corner and then the smash concept, which is basically a corner
- 8:03route behind it. And the problem is the execution here just doesn't put enough
- 8:09air under it. I mean, I guess you could think there's an argument
- 8:11that maybe he should have tried to look it off and not focus so much
- 8:16on Harrison to get the will linebacker. But like again, like you have
- 8:20to give Rutgers credit, like we're gonna show I'll show a clip after this.
- 8:22Like the way they treated Harrison on these things versus other wide receivers is
- 8:26pretty noticeable, like they would sag, so like you're playing your cover too
- 8:30with your underneath defenders. But like if Harrison was to their side, they
- 8:33just keep getting depth with them. And so I again, it's ultimately like
- 8:39the right to me the right read just like poor execution, Like it's a
- 8:41nice play by the linebacker for Rutgers. I mean he gets adapt the jump
- 8:46seat. You know, it's a nice catch, but like you just got
- 8:48to put a little bit more air under it. But I don't have a
- 8:52problem with the read, all right, next up third and two play We
- 8:56know a house did is not exactly excelled in third and short this year,
- 9:00but they found a way to get it done a few times against Rutgers.
- 9:03One of them was finding someone who was not Marvin Harrison, but was also
- 9:07not a Mecca Abuka or Cad Stover. You know, the guys who are
- 9:11maybe not one hundred percent at true. Freshman Carneal Tait starting to make his
- 9:15presence felt this was this was a big play in the game for them to
- 9:20pick this one up, so un us run us through this next one.
- 9:22Yeah, I mean I think you could almost notice that there's a bit of
- 9:26when we want to throw, we're going to put tit at Z and flaming
- 9:30at Z when we want to run, going on increasingly, and so part
- 9:33of yes, to your pointed, this reminds me, like, you know,
- 9:37on the good side of things, like I think Ohio State converted every
- 9:39short yardage opportunity, every goal to go opportunity, Like I was. I
- 9:46liked some of the concepts they were using, Like they used that you know,
- 9:50little counter wedge to chip train him as the fullback for the one they
- 9:54obviously did another sneak you know with Trayvon Henderson flailing his hands like you I
- 10:00wasn't getting the play call in and then McCord went up and snuck it,
- 10:03and I personally like, I was happy to see them continue to throw it
- 10:05to Harrison in Golden Gost situations at one on one coverage, like took a
- 10:11couple of times to get Burt, but they got them both, and one
- 10:13was the fade and then the comeback for the last touchdout. So you know,
- 10:16I've we've been beating the drum all year that that is a good way
- 10:20in goal line situations for them. Hey like throw it to Marvin Harrison in
- 10:24single coverage and a lot of times good things were hopping and those were good
- 10:28both good balls by McCord. As is this one so again too are like
- 10:33you know, Colin McCord isn't perfect, but he's playing pretty well. Like
- 10:37this is another example, Like so you know he made the mistake same this
- 10:39is the same exact thing. So again you're running smash to one side,
- 10:43double slants to the other. He sees cover two, he goes to the
- 10:46smash side and he throws it right where it needs to go to Cardinal Tate
- 10:50on the same exact route. So again, like improving in the second half.
- 10:54I do think he's learning from his mistakes. And you know, again
- 11:00like maybe check down a little bit too much. I personally am okay with
- 11:03like a quarterback that that gets those progressions. He gets the ball out even
- 11:07if it's not perfect. And so you know, I do think there are
- 11:11things that they can build on and continue to improve going forward. One thing
- 11:16they've been able to build on quite a bit. The last couple of weeks
- 11:18is the play of Treyvon Henderson. He said two hundred total yards in each
- 11:22of his two games since returning from injury. He did it. He was
- 11:26very effective on the ground. He was very effective in the air against Rutgers.
- 11:31Let's talk about that. One of those big plays through the air.
- 11:35This was another. This was a third nine and not only did he convert
- 11:37it, he can picked up a lot more yardage in what ended up being
- 11:41a very important drive early in the fourth quarter for the buck Eyes. Yeah.
- 11:45You know, I had people asking me in responsible on the core post
- 11:48on Buckeheadle whether did Ryan Day call the right plays against cover two or Rutgers
- 11:54was doing Did they adjust quickly enough? Like I think they did a pretty
- 11:58good job. And we'll talk about like, especially in the run game.
- 12:01I'm super heartened by what they've been doing. But you know, as I
- 12:05said, we showed the smash concepts, like they kept running cover two concepts
- 12:09and here was a very nice adjustment on third nine because this is very similar
- 12:13to what happened to them several times against Wisconsin where they get in these third
- 12:18lungs and they get super soft coverage and try to run four verticals and there
- 12:22wouldn't be anyone open, and they ended in a couple of potential grounding.
- 12:26So here they attacked that situation. So they motion Henderson out and he basically
- 12:33runs like a little just a little inside mini curl route. But the point
- 12:37is that if you're gonna Rutgers, is looks like running a Cover five here,
- 12:41which is Cover two with man under you know, if you're gonna and
- 12:45they you know, I say it runs four verticals, and like, if
- 12:46you're going to run everyone off, then we'll just throw it to Henderson underneath.
- 12:50And you know, you're giving the court options in those situations, which
- 12:54I like. But it's also nice design just taking advantage of the soft coverage.
- 12:58So again I guess the cynic would say, like, oh, McCord,
- 13:01just check this down, but it's actually the correct read. And the
- 13:05concept is that, hey, we know we're throwing the short of the sticks,
- 13:07but you know, we think the triviaon Henderson can pick this up.
- 13:11And obviously he turned what I think would have been a first down no matter
- 13:15what, into an explosive play. And you know, part of their problem
- 13:18has been these last few weeks is not necessarily their efficiency. I mean the
- 13:24success rate like against Rutgers was pretty good overall. Like again, the same
- 13:28thing happen against Wisconsin. Like, you know, they generally moved the football.
- 13:31The problem is they're just not getting the explosive plays that they've got in
- 13:35the past, and you know, few and far between sixty yard touchdown passes.
- 13:43Some of that, again is on mcord. Some of that is on
- 13:46the lack of a BUCA now Stover. Some of that is also on how
- 13:50defenses are playing them. But you know, Henderson is obviously bringing back that
- 13:54explosive element and so the extent you can get it out of him in the
- 13:58passing game as well, that's definitely going to help them going forward. And
- 14:03something that has helped them quite a bit in the run game has been the
- 14:07return of Travon Henderson. Yes, but also something we talked about on the
- 14:09last I think was on last week's show, maybe even the week before that,
- 14:13the run game's getting a little more diverse. They're sort of breaking out
- 14:16some different stuff and they're having success with more stuff. And then the return
- 14:20of Travon Henderson has also turned meant not only staying on schedule, but also
- 14:24the return of explosive plays on the ground. So let's wrap up with some
- 14:30more diversity in the run game and some another explosive play on the ground from
- 14:33Travon Henderson. Yeah, and again, so for someone who I've been complaining
- 14:37for several years now about the lack of diversity in the run game, it's
- 14:41been really positive to see the last few weeks from Ohio State, just the
- 14:46volume of concepts they're using, you know, even on So this play in
- 14:50particular is a one back power, so you're instead of like a traditional power
- 14:56where you're kicking out with a fullback and then wrapping around the guard, here
- 15:00you're just base blocking the front side and then pulling the guard to lead through
- 15:03the hole. And there you'll see they bring plumbing into the short motion,
- 15:07which they kept doing because again since Rutgers was playing so much to cover two,
- 15:11they wanted to give that zero receiver leverage to dig out the corner who
- 15:16was the force defender and get Henderson to the second level. Again, like
- 15:20I think the gap schemes that they're using, and again we saw a bunch
- 15:22of them Saturday, not just power, but we saw counter GT counter gh
- 15:28they use some cracked toss in addition to like they're also more diverse with the
- 15:33zone schemes, like they ran a weak mid zone a few times from pistol
- 15:39to attack the a gap bubble for some explosive plays. They're just mixing and
- 15:43matching more. And but you know, I thought this play in particular,
- 15:46like it also really fits Henderson well, Like we've been talking about how they've
- 15:50been doing a better job using concepts that suit him, like again one back
- 15:56power, it makes one cut, gets behind his guard and gets downhill.
- 16:00So once you get him to the second level, as you said, there's
- 16:03always a chance for an exposed to play. And I do think the offensive
- 16:07line has continued to improve, particularly as run blockers. It's a much better
- 16:12job getting to the second level, much better job pulling and identifying who they're
- 16:18supposed to block. So you know, tight end blocking remains at a little
- 16:23iffy at times. I did think that Patrick Gird actually really has helded things
- 16:29in the second half in terms of tight end blocking. He was pretty effective
- 16:33as a split zone blocker, and so I would not be surprised to continue
- 16:36to see him in that role, particularly in twelve percent when they want to
- 16:38run it. But I do think they're just this continued improvement. So the
- 16:44more that they can run the ball like this and they don't open things up
- 16:48in the passing game. Or conversely, as Ryan Day said, if teams
- 16:52want to continue to sit in soft zones against them, then they'll continue to
- 16:55run the football effectively. Well, we will see how the Buckeyes do they
- 17:00continue that can continue their success on the ground and in the air on offense
- 17:03this weekend against Michigan State, Tony Gerdaman Kevin noon and I will be there
- 17:08covering that for you. Ross will be back tomorrow with another another episode of
- 17:12The Buck Guys tomorrow morning, looking at the Ohio State defense against Rutgers.
- 17:17I'm gonna see if I can talk him into talking about that fumble Rooskie play.
- 17:21That was a really fun and creative call by Rutgers. Once again,
- 17:22I'm super impressed with joh Greyciano has done there. So we'll be back with
- 17:27that tomorrow and also we will tomorrow's episode just like today, We'll be sponsored
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- 17:45all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk kay tomorrow