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When Success Becomes Who You Are · The Person behind the Position

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the person behind the podcast, podcast that looks
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  Speaker 1: beyond what people do to discover who they are.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Michael Chisholm.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so welcome to the person behind the position.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Michael Chisholm.
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  Speaker 1: My guest today scaled his family's business tenfold. And somewhere
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  Speaker 1: in that success, realized that hitting the numbers didn't buy
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  Speaker 1: him peace of mind. The gap between outward achievement and
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  Speaker 1: inner steadiness became the question he spent decades chasing. He
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  Speaker 1: comes to believe that most of us operate from a
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  Speaker 1: hidden reactive place, driven by fear, self-doubt, guilt, and shame,
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  Speaker 1: without even realizing it. And he's built his life's work
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  Speaker 1: around one shift, helping people move from reacting under pressure
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  Speaker 1: to leading from real clarity.
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  Speaker 2: Please welcome today, Steve Barton.
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  Speaker 3: Michael, thank you for that kind introduction, and you nailed it.
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  Speaker 3: And thank you. I'm looking forward to talking with you
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  Speaker 3: and answering questions and hopefully shining some light for your
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  Speaker 3: audience to chew on. I sometimes firehose people, so that
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  Speaker 3: gives them one more reason to keep going over and
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  Speaker 3: over and over this podcast. Okay. I recommend people going
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  Speaker 3: over what I have to say, because you won't get
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  Speaker 3: it the first time. And you might not get it
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  Speaker 3: the second time. And you might get a piece that says,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't say that the first time. Because that's how
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  Speaker 3: the mind works. It doesn't let in until it's ready to.
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  Speaker 1: So Steve, before the coaching, before the game of 10,
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  Speaker 1: and before the business became successful, Who was Steve Barton?
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  Speaker 3: It was pretty normal. And I was chasing the carrot
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  Speaker 3: and the shiny objects and success and happiness. I was
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  Speaker 3: in the pursuit of happiness until I realized you don't
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  Speaker 3: pursue it, you are it. So I got myself into
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  Speaker 3: therapy when I was 36 years old, 12 years into
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  Speaker 3: running the business. I was 22 when I took over
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  Speaker 3: The family business, I always knew from the age of
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  Speaker 3: eight when my father built the flower shop. My grandfather
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  Speaker 3: had a greenhouse. He added a retail flower shop to it.
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  Speaker 3: So I went, that was our daycare basically back in
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  Speaker 3: the day. So from eight years old, I was designing
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  Speaker 3: flowers and selling them and on a stool standing up
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  Speaker 3: during Memorial Day, making things for the graves and they
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  Speaker 3: were selling and And making arrangements. And so, yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: I always knew I never had a thought of where
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  Speaker 3: what I'm going to do when I grew up. I
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  Speaker 3: was just going to go in flower business. So but
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  Speaker 3: I also knew after I graduated from the university here
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  Speaker 3: in management that this flower shop wasn't big enough for
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  Speaker 3: the two of us. So I was heading to Europe
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  Speaker 3: to study floral design. And three days before I was leaving,
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  Speaker 3: I had a one-way ticket, and my parents, both my
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  Speaker 3: mother and father, were at a floral convention in St. Louis, Missouri.
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  Speaker 3: And you get a phone call saying your father's had
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  Speaker 3: a stroke. He's paralyzed on the left side of his body,
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  Speaker 3: complete one-side stroke. And they said, don't go. You can't leave.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to run the business. So I was prepared
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  Speaker 3: for it. And I wasn't prepared for it either. So,
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  Speaker 3: because I knew in theory how to run a business,
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  Speaker 3: but I finally learned that theory and you learn in
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  Speaker 3: school isn't the same as hands-on, dealing with people, employees,
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  Speaker 3: and the systems of running a business. So, 22 and
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  Speaker 3: by 36, so that's 14 years, I hired a person
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  Speaker 3: who was going to therapy. And I was curious about
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  Speaker 3: what is this therapy? 34 years ago, you didn't go
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  Speaker 3: into therapy and you certainly didn't tell anyone you're going.
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  Speaker 3: All right. So it was a shame thing. And so
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  Speaker 3: I went and therapist. So imagine Mr. Rogers is a therapist.
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  Speaker 3: So I went to the, yeah, it was a Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Rogers type of guy, smart. And he'd worked with high
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  Speaker 3: level executives at a company here in Maine. And he
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  Speaker 3: was the go-to guy for the C-suite, all type A
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  Speaker 3: personalities with Ivy League degrees, working 60 to 80 hours
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  Speaker 3: a week and had no balance in their life except work.
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  Speaker 3: So I went to him. He says, why are you here?
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  Speaker 3: And I said, I have everything in the world that
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  Speaker 3: I want and I'm not happy. I said, that is
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  Speaker 3: effed up. He laughed. I go, what can I expect
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  Speaker 3: and how long is it going to take? He said,
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  Speaker 3: Typically I tell people three months, but you're halfway there.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm going to say a month and a half
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  Speaker 3: for you because I knew I was messed up. Apparently
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  Speaker 3: it takes people a month and a half to realize
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  Speaker 3: I've been messed up, but I knew it. And he said,
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  Speaker 3: what you can expect is mental health. And those two
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  Speaker 3: words meant absolutely nothing to me. I had no idea
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  Speaker 3: what mental health was. And now I created a game
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  Speaker 3: of 10. It's all about mental health, letting go, That
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  Speaker 3: which does not serve us anymore. The fear, the self-doubt,
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  Speaker 3: the guilt, and the shame. What are you left with?
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  Speaker 3: Peace of mind. Love that we are. Respect that we are.
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  Speaker 3: With really healthy boundaries.
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  Speaker 2: Got you.
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  Speaker 1: So you've helped take your family's business from 200,000 to
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  Speaker 1: 2 million. So what was happening to Steve while the
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  Speaker 1: business was becoming successful?
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  Speaker 3: Steve was working his butt off. I was working my
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  Speaker 3: butt off, you know, and loving it. So luckily I
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  Speaker 3: loved what I did. So I guess the phrase is
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  Speaker 3: when you love what you do, you never work a
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  Speaker 3: day in your life. And so I was loving it.
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  Speaker 3: My customers are happy. Growing the business. I love marketing.
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  Speaker 3: I love business. I love psychology. I love people. So
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  Speaker 3: I've Perfect fit. So we sold in 2008, November, just
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  Speaker 3: before the crash. And the only compliment my father ever
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  Speaker 3: gave me was, how'd you know? How'd you know? So
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  Speaker 3: we had that type of relationship. And yeah, so I
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  Speaker 3: was so glad, never looked back. And after that, I
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  Speaker 3: got my financial advisor's licenses. Did that, that was, I
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  Speaker 3: love learning. I just, I think, I'm very curious. I
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  Speaker 3: just am a sponge. And so I got my licenses,
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  Speaker 3: Series 7, 66, and Maine State Insurance licenses. And those
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  Speaker 3: were tough courses. So I loved that. I was in
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  Speaker 3: my 50s when I did that. But I did it
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  Speaker 3: for a year, and my boss wanted me to make
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  Speaker 3: 50 cold calls a day. At 50. No, maybe at 20. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But at 50, no. And he goes, I went into
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  Speaker 3: his office one day. He says, Steve, are you making
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  Speaker 3: 50 phone calls a day? And I said, no. And
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  Speaker 3: he goes, can you tell me that you are? I said, no.
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  Speaker 3: He says, are you leaving? I said, yes. And that's
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  Speaker 3: when I decided to go to, I was doing coaching,
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  Speaker 3: whether I knew it or not, but I had no framework.
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  Speaker 3: So I got my, at the Gestalt International Study Center.
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  Speaker 3: And my first client was the head of, four days
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  Speaker 3: into it, I thought it was a fish out of water.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking, what am I doing here? You know,
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  Speaker 3: I have no business being here. All these people working
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  Speaker 3: in corporate, all these people in HR, all these people
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  Speaker 3: in psychologists, what is Steve Barton doing here? Four days
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  Speaker 3: into it, the head of coaching, one of the founders
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  Speaker 3: of this group, school says, can you teach me to
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  Speaker 3: do what you do? She was my first client. And
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  Speaker 3: she was in the book, The Father, The Son, The
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  Speaker 3: Aha Moment. And I said, Marianne, do you mind if
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  Speaker 3: I tell your story of what happened while coaching me
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  Speaker 3: with the game of 10? She goes, yeah, just let
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  Speaker 3: me see it so I can approve it before it
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  Speaker 3: goes to the editors or for press. And she goes,
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  Speaker 3: you said that I was the head of HR for
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  Speaker 3: AT & T North America. I said, yeah. She goes,
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  Speaker 3: I was ahead of the world, HR, for AT &
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  Speaker 3: T World. I said, of course you were, Marianne. Of
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  Speaker 3: course you were. How could I have made that mistake?
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  Speaker 3: And now she's one of my best friends. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so my first client was, have you done executive coaching? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I have. Yep. Yep. Top of the game. And then,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I realized everyone's the same. Everyone is the same.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone has their own issues. Everyone has their own fears, self-doubts,
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  Speaker 3: guilts and shames. And I call that the game often
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  Speaker 3: played versus the game of 10. So. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So at what point did you realize that succeeding in
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  Speaker 1: business wasn't necessarily giving you peace of mind?
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  Speaker 3: Well, when I realized I wasn't happy and what I
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  Speaker 3: got out of that month and a half of therapy,
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  Speaker 3: it was like, I realized that happiness is not a choice.
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  Speaker 3: It is a choice that there is no choice. Once
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  Speaker 3: you'd say that, make the commitment to be happy, there
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  Speaker 3: was no choice. Choice is gone. That has passed. Nobody
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  Speaker 3: can mess with my happiness, with the loving boundaries that
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  Speaker 3: I have. So it's a commitment because we're aspects of
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  Speaker 3: the divine. And that is, those aspects are happy, healthy, abundant, healed, whole, peace, love, joy, grace, gratitudes.
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  Speaker 3: Just being clear, clarity, awareness is what I coach. And
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  Speaker 3: that's so I coach my people to be in that
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  Speaker 3: space of awareness that is infinite and to expand from
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  Speaker 3: that place of infinite possibilities, choices, intentions, intuition, and love.
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  Speaker 3: Expand that love with respect of other people's boundaries as
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  Speaker 3: well as your own.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So you said that you realized that you weren't happy.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think other people could see it or was
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  Speaker 1: it something that you were carrying privately?
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  Speaker 3: No, I was normal. Now I'm natural. Okay. And there's
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  Speaker 3: a difference. Natural state of being is everything I just
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  Speaker 3: said before. So I shifted and they thought I went crazy. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: When you make that drastic shift, people around you go,
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  Speaker 3: what happened to the old Steve? Okay. well, the old
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  Speaker 3: Steve wasn't happy. This is the new Steve. We don't
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  Speaker 3: like the new Steve. Okay. Not a problem. Not a
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  Speaker 3: problem for me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It seems to be a problem for you. So, and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you have to, I can, you know, I love
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  Speaker 3: my family. I love my, but I don't have these
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  Speaker 3: conversations with them. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So, so what makes you, um, not have these conversations
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  Speaker 2: with them?
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  Speaker 3: They don't want to hear it. How I know that?
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  Speaker 3: They tell me, I don't want to hear that. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Very simple. They don't want to hear it. Some people
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  Speaker 3: are not ready to hear it. And I have to
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  Speaker 3: respect that. I don't have to, I do.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I respect where people are at. And if they
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  Speaker 3: want to break out of that level of awareness, then
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  Speaker 3: they can talk to me. Or hire me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess how would that, so how does that
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  Speaker 1: make you feel when your own family doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Want to hear?
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Because I committed to being happy. And it has, how
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  Speaker 3: they feel, their feelings have nothing to do with me.
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  Speaker 3: Their feelings about me have nothing to do with me.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Therefore, it's about my responsibility. My responsibility is to hold
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  Speaker 3: my power, hold my control, to be in control of myself,
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  Speaker 3: not in control of them or have power over them.
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  Speaker 3: My innate power is within, and it spans from there.
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  Speaker 3: And letting them, you know, Mel Robbins just came out
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  Speaker 3: of a book, Let Them, okay? Mm-hmm. Yep. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's really about let them. It's okay. My definition of
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  Speaker 3: love is acceptance, radical acceptance of what is. Whether it's
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  Speaker 3: a person, place, or situation, I radically accept it is
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  Speaker 3: what it is. And that's one of my definitions of
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  Speaker 3: what God is. It is what it is. It isn't
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  Speaker 3: what it isn't. It's everything. It's not a thing. It's
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  Speaker 3: an essence. It's a foundational being or awareness, consciousness, collective
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  Speaker 3: consciousness of universal proportions, infinite universal proportions. It's in everything.
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  Speaker 3: It's in everyone. It's in every situation. It's our purpose.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it's our, I know it's our purpose to
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  Speaker 3: be that radically accepting of everything. And once you accept it,
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  Speaker 3: then you can be in a position to make a
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  Speaker 3: difference and to change it with rational, intuition and intentionality
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  Speaker 3: in coming from a place of love or respect.
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  Speaker 1: So you mentioned Mel Robbins' book, Let Them, which is
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  Speaker 1: a book that.
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  Speaker 2: Gave me a new perspective in how to handle and
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  Speaker 2: deal with people.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad you raised that book.
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  Speaker 2: But do you, do.
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  Speaker 1: You always have the mindset of just kind of let them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, let them think, let them do, let them assume.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I've been doing this work, personal development work,
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  Speaker 3: awareness work for 34 years. So it takes a lot
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  Speaker 3: to get me to floss out. I call it, if
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  Speaker 3: someone can get there, I go, oh my God, they
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  Speaker 3: are good. They just flossed my soul, okay? They got something.
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  Speaker 3: There was a seed in my soul that was between
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  Speaker 3: my teeth. You know, I didn't even know it was there.
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  Speaker 3: And wow. So luckily, so that's where the game of
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  Speaker 3: 10 comes in. If I do get off 10 into
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  Speaker 3: the game often played, I can get back in hours.
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  Speaker 3: If it's a really good one, yeah. hours, three hours max,
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  Speaker 3: but I just want to be with it, observe it,
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  Speaker 3: allow it, feel it until the point where it's going.
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  Speaker 3: I'm letting that go. Thank you for bringing that to
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  Speaker 3: my awareness. It comes up from your subconscious and you
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  Speaker 3: let it go. So life is a journey. Am I there? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Am I expanding? But I'm there in awareness and I'm
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  Speaker 3: expanding this awareness. That is infinite. And that is our space.
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  Speaker 3: Be in my space, be in my lane, expand my
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  Speaker 3: lane from a one lane to a 16 lane. Okay. Highway.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where the fun is learning from it. So
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  Speaker 3: if I get triggered, I don't get mad. I get,
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  Speaker 3: I get thankful. Thank you for bringing that up. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that was there. I go right to
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  Speaker 3: thank you. I go right to grace and gratitude.
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  Speaker 2: But what happens when.
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  Speaker 3: I don't tell them that. I don't tell them that.
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  Speaker 3: But in my mind, I go right there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So then what happens when people do.
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  Speaker 1: You know, floss you?
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: And it takes longer than, you know, just three hours.
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  Speaker 2: You know, how do you handle, you know, if it
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  Speaker 2: may take you long, you know, if there's, you Or
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  Speaker 2: do you have a limit or.
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  Speaker 3: Just however long it takes? No, I just got off
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  Speaker 3: a grief podcast and there was no time for grieving.
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  Speaker 3: There's no, I mean, you process it and the last
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  Speaker 3: thing you want to hear, you shouldn't feel that way. No,
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  Speaker 3: you want to feel that way. You want to allow it,
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  Speaker 3: come from that place of awareness where you become the
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  Speaker 3: silent witness where you are connected to all and observe,
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  Speaker 3: feel it, feel it deeply. Just feel it. Just go
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  Speaker 3: into that feeling. You know, I call it the nail
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  Speaker 3: in the foot. It hurt going in. It's going to
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  Speaker 3: hurt coming out, but that's when the healing begins. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So after.
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  Speaker 1: The business, the personal development work, coaching, and everything that
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  Speaker 1: you've learned. What does Steve know about himself today that
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  Speaker 1: the younger Steve didn't know?
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  Speaker 3: I was always different. I was born with two fingers
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  Speaker 3: on one hand. So as a child, okay, if you
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  Speaker 3: can imagine, you know, I mean, everyone's different in some ways.
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  Speaker 3: I was relentlessly made fun of and teased and I'd
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  Speaker 3: go home crying. My father says, just tell them they're ignorant.
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  Speaker 2: So I go back and say, you're ignorant.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know what it meant. They didn't know
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  Speaker 3: what it meant. But that was the advice I got.
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  Speaker 3: And I always knew I was different. So that's why
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  Speaker 3: I never got a tattoo or a piercing or anything.
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  Speaker 3: I was just different enough. I don't need to identify
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  Speaker 3: myself as different in any way, shape, or form. And
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  Speaker 3: I always knew that there was something there about that
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  Speaker 3: I was missing. Always. I didn't know what it was.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that a lot of people out there
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  Speaker 3: know that there's something missing. There's a gap. And there
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  Speaker 3: is for most people. It's a gap between who we
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  Speaker 3: are and who we think we are. That is our identity.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we have, so from awareness, there's no thought.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the end result of meditating. You get to
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  Speaker 3: a point. You're just in that space of awareness. So
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  Speaker 3: I created it. I have ADHD, and I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I work with it. And I allow myself to do
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  Speaker 3: about 12, 13 squirrely things before I sit down and
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  Speaker 3: hyper-focus for five or six hours. And that's what I
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  Speaker 3: know I have to do, where a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: get conditioned to sit down there and do it. And
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  Speaker 3: if you've got a little neuro-spicy, we don't work that way.
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  Speaker 3: I always knew I was different, didn't know why I
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  Speaker 3: was different, and I knew something was missing, okay? So
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  Speaker 3: that's the old Steve. Until I went to therapy, and
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  Speaker 3: in that therapy, and in that month and a half,
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  Speaker 3: I had an out-of-body experience, near-death experience. Everything was happening
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  Speaker 3: that I was like, it was paranormal, okay? Finally, the therapist,
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  Speaker 3: after the third session, which was the month and a half,
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  Speaker 3: he goes, do you have some good teachers around you?
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  Speaker 3: Because what your experience is way beyond me. And sure enough,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when the teachers are ready, when the students
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  Speaker 3: are ready, the teachers appear. So I had some great mentors, teachers,
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  Speaker 3: and one of them owned a personal development class called Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and from that is the universe always says yes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, whatever you say to yourself, I'm a stupid
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  Speaker 3: idiot for doing this. Yes, you are. Okay. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: the greatest person in the world. I'm so great. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you are. Okay. But it doesn't tell you so is
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  Speaker 3: everyone else too, okay? So in this personal development class,
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  Speaker 3: I took it like three times because I was breaking
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  Speaker 3: down my ego, my identity. And you have to break,
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  Speaker 3: when it's built up to who we think we are,
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  Speaker 3: it takes a while to break it down too. So
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  Speaker 3: when I'm doing that, give yourself the space and give
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  Speaker 3: yourself the time and give yourself the grace You know,
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  Speaker 3: one of the first things I tell my clients is
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  Speaker 3: you're going to be learning and you're going to be
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  Speaker 3: growing and you're going to make mistakes. Rule number one
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  Speaker 3: in the game of 10, never, ever, ever beat yourself up.
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  Speaker 3: Those people have gone out of your life and you
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  Speaker 3: are not the judge, jury and punisher any longer. OK,
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  Speaker 3: so get that. Stop that now. If you do, that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Just be aware that you are the one punishing yourself.
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  Speaker 3: So that's one of the, it's a game. We hit
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  Speaker 3: a play. We hit to recreate. We hit to recreate
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  Speaker 3: heaven on earth. And the only one getting in the
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  Speaker 3: way is the identity of who we think we are
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  Speaker 3: and what we think we deserve. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So if my listeners wanted to find you on any
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  Speaker 1: social media platforms, website, how could they do that?
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  Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram. I'm on Twitter. TikTok, I'm on Facebook,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm on LinkedIn. Mostly LinkedIn is where I give
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  Speaker 3: a lot of tidbits of the Game of 10. My
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  Speaker 3: book is free to everybody that wants to go to
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  Speaker 3: my website, www.stevebartoncoaching.com. Scroll down to the bottom and get
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  Speaker 3: a free copy of the book I wrote with my son,
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  Speaker 3: and uh it's called father the son the aha moment
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  Speaker 3: tools for helping you and your child develop a path
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  Speaker 3: to happiness and for those of you with older uh
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  Speaker 3: adult children or don't have any children everyone's got an
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  Speaker 3: inner child that needs to be healed and that book
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  Speaker 3: the game of 10 will start bringing out what needs
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  Speaker 3: to be healed within us and we are the only
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  Speaker 3: ones who can do it so Great.
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  Speaker 1: So take away the entrepreneur, the coach, the author, the
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  Speaker 1: game of 10, business success, and everything people know you for.
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  Speaker 1: Who is Steve Barton behind the position?
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  Speaker 3: I'm my authentic self. Love me. Don't love me. I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Steve, thank you for allowing us to meet the
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  Speaker 1: person behind the position.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on, Michael, and
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  Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. And keep up your amazing work
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  Speaker 3: for what you're doing, helping others help themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And to everyone listening, sometimes the hardest question isn't whether
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  Speaker 1: we're successful. It's whether we've allowed our success to tell
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  Speaker 1: us who we are. I'm Michael Chisholm, and this is
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  Speaker 1: the person behind the positions.
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