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The Stolen Goodie Bags · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Ruby Tuesday
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Speaker 1: Matthews defends her decision to bleach her nine-year-old's hair, Ashley
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Speaker 1: Day's goodie bag drama, and are Taylor Swift and Travis
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Speaker 1: Kelsey in their loser era? But first, I need to
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Speaker 1: have a rant about a TikTok trend. You may have
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Speaker 1: seen it. It's the I met my youngest self for
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Speaker 1: a coffee trend. And It was actually sparked by a
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Speaker 1: beautiful poem by Jenna Cecilia in her soon to be
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Speaker 1: released book, Deep in My Feels. But it just feels
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Speaker 1: like it's been co-opted by influencers to brag about how
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Speaker 1: great they are. I have never rolled my eyes so
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Speaker 1: much at a trend and it's just the same crowd
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Speaker 1: doing it. Like I don't think I've seen any regular
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Speaker 1: people doing it at all because it's just, as you said, Kate,
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Speaker 1: a platform to brag about how successful and great you are. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I feel like it would be an immediate unfriend or
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Speaker 1: unfollow if someone I personally knew put one up because
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Speaker 1: you'd be like, how much of you, like how obsessed
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Speaker 1: with yourself are you to actually be involved in this trend?
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Speaker 1: Have you seen how long some of them are as well?
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Speaker 1: You've literally got a screenshot in order to pause the
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Speaker 1: screen in order to actually read the thing. Do they
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Speaker 1: really think people are reading the whole thing? Like I'll
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Speaker 1: have a quick browse just to roll my eyes and
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Speaker 1: be like, okay. Okay. Why do they think it's so
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Speaker 1: deep whether they're late or on time? Like I just
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Speaker 1: don't understand it. I mean if I was writing about myself,
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Speaker 1: I would be late both times. Yeah, it's like we
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Speaker 1: get it. You're successful and rich. Like you don't have
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Speaker 1: to like plaster it all over. In saying that, what
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Speaker 1: drinks would you guys have ordered at 16 compared to now?
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Speaker 1: We're just saying how self-indulgent and boring it is yet
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Speaker 1: you're asking it. I probably would have ordered a hot
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Speaker 1: chocolate because I wasn't a coffee drinker. I can't even
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Speaker 1: recall going to a coffee shop by myself or with
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Speaker 1: a friend when I was 16. I feel like the
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Speaker 1: only time you'd go out to some restaurant is if
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Speaker 1: your parents took you and it'd be one of those
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Speaker 1: fast food chains, but they'd order you a jug of
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Speaker 1: soft drink to share and you get like a thimble
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Speaker 1: of a coke that one 9.90 what was that everyone
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Speaker 1: used to cafe primo yeah my old boss is best
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Speaker 1: friends with the cafe primo girl i think this will
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Speaker 1: only be an essay reference and literally everywhere she goes
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Speaker 1: everyone's like 9.90 and you'd get the free pancake after
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Speaker 1: the meal oh they were late they were actually so
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Speaker 1: i could go one of those now i shouldn't record
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Speaker 1: whilst we're hungry so welcome to our afternoon uh Save
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Speaker 1: our souls. Ruby Tuesday Matthews has defended her decision to
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Speaker 1: bleach her nine-year-old son Rocket's hair. The influencer received backlash
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Speaker 1: after unveiling her son's new hairstyle. Kate, can you tell
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Speaker 1: us more? Well, she has tackled the criticism head on.
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Speaker 1: Ruby shared a photo of Rocket to her Instagram feed
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Speaker 1: and wrote, a few concerned messages say he's too young
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Speaker 1: for this. I personally think he's too young to own
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Speaker 1: an iPad or phone, but hey, my family's a little
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Speaker 1: different from yours. I'd rather my kids express themselves creatively
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Speaker 1: and feel safe asking me to help them to do it.
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Speaker 1: Hair is just hair. It grows, it changes, and for some,
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Speaker 1: it's part of who they are. Bold cuts, bright colors,
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Speaker 1: or nothing at all. It's all good. Ruby finished up
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Speaker 1: by saying, Really though, my main concern is that my
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Speaker 1: mum slash nana is 100% going to kill me. Ruby's
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Speaker 1: post attracted over 200 comments, with the majority agreeing with
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Speaker 1: her sentiments. OG influencer Kurt Coleman wrote, my mom dyed
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Speaker 1: my hair blonde since I was two years old. He's
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Speaker 1: definitely not too young. As someone who has been bleaching
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Speaker 1: their hair since they were 13, though, I have a
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Speaker 1: bit of regret over it. It's not great for your hair.
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Speaker 1: And especially if you're doing it at age nine. It
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Speaker 1: reminds me a bit of Draco Malfoy when he, well,
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Speaker 1: Tom Felton when he was on Harry Potter. And he
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Speaker 1: destroyed his hair from all of the bleach. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: I was having a look into it from a safety
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Speaker 1: perspective because I'm like, surely it's not good. And dermatologists
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Speaker 1: do advise against dying kids' hair until after puberty because
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Speaker 1: apparently children's hair is a lot finer than adults and
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Speaker 1: it's very susceptible to damage. And it's also more likely
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Speaker 1: to cause reactions. Do you guys think the reaction online
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Speaker 1: would have been different if it was Ruby dyeing her
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Speaker 1: daughter's hair? 100%. I think people would have thought that
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Speaker 1: she was trying to make her daughter grow up too
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Speaker 1: quickly and maybe it was sexualizing her by changing her
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Speaker 1: hair color. Well, in saying that, there were a couple
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Speaker 1: of comments on the photo saying that they didn't agree
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Speaker 1: with Ruby sharing a picture of Rocket without his top on.
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Speaker 1: I remember when we were at primary school, there was
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Speaker 1: a boy in our year who would use his mom's
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Speaker 1: lightning shampoo. Wasn't that a boy that you had a
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Speaker 1: little crush on? I mean, like the blonde streaks. That
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Speaker 1: was the look though. All the boys would have blonde
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Speaker 1: tips and it was pretty cool. Yeah, that was the
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Speaker 1: era of Aaron Carter and the Backstreet Boys where blonde
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Speaker 1: tips were in. Talking about school, a lot of schools
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Speaker 1: have rules around kids' hair. So I was thinking, oh,
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Speaker 1: I wonder if Rocket is allowed to have bleached hair
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Speaker 1: at his school because there's always seems to be some
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Speaker 1: story making the headlines about a kid getting kicked out
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Speaker 1: of a private school because his hair is too long
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Speaker 1: or the wrong color. Do you guys think Nine is
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Speaker 1: too young to dye kids' hair? I can't say I'd
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Speaker 1: be dyeing my kid's hair at nine. I mean, financially,
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Speaker 1: it's very expensive. He's going to have some terrible regrowth
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Speaker 1: happening just on a superficial level, but it's up to
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Speaker 1: the individual parent. Personally, I wouldn't do it. Yeah. I mean,
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Speaker 1: my first reaction was, no, I wouldn't. Then I had
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Speaker 1: to stop and think about why, because Ruby's comments made
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Speaker 1: me really think like, it's just hair. What's the big
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Speaker 1: deal about it? And I think it's because we grew
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Speaker 1: up in quite a conservative household and there's no way
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Speaker 1: my parents would ever have let us dye our hair.
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of schools as well, though, when
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Speaker 1: we were growing up, they wouldn't allow anyone to come
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Speaker 1: to school with bleached blonde hair. It just made me
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Speaker 1: think of the kids at Rocket School who aren't allowed
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Speaker 1: to dye their hair. And I was thinking this kid
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Speaker 1: must come in and have a pretty cool vibe about him.
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Speaker 1: I mean, his name's Rocket. I mean, look at the photos. Okay.
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Speaker 1: And they're probably like, oh, mum and dad, like there's
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Speaker 1: probably so much pressure on the kids in his class
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Speaker 1: as parents now. I wonder if Ruby's been open about
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Speaker 1: helping him dye his hair because as kids get older,
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Speaker 1: they become more defined and he would probably at 12
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Speaker 1: just go and do it himself and probably the results
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Speaker 1: would be disastrous. I think the bleach bond hair is
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Speaker 1: better than a dirty great big mullet. I can't stand
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Speaker 1: when I see kids with mullets. Also, Ruby makes such
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Speaker 1: a good point. People are getting their knickers in a
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Speaker 1: knot about her son dyeing his hair. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've really been looking into screen time for kids and
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Speaker 1: it's very true. Like we give kids iPads and mobile
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Speaker 1: phones at such a young age, but no one's worried
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Speaker 1: about that. It's not the first time that Ruby has
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Speaker 1: faced backlash over her kid's hair. A couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: she was criticized for shaving her newborn daughter's head. So
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Speaker 1: in December, 2022, she casually dropped that she'd shaved her
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Speaker 1: four month old daughter holiday's head. And she forgot that
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Speaker 1: their Santa photos were the next day. She then returned
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Speaker 1: to social media saying that everyone was losing it over
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Speaker 1: the fact that she'd shaved her head. And she went
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Speaker 1: on to explain that she had actually shaved all of
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Speaker 1: her kids' heads at around the four month mark. She said,
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Speaker 1: my kids were born with dark hair that slowly falls
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Speaker 1: out and ends up looking crazy patchy and the new
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Speaker 1: hair holds off growing. I find shaving it makes it
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Speaker 1: grow faster, thicker, and so much more even. Well, Kate,
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Speaker 1: is this giving you the inspo to go and shave
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Speaker 1: Jack's head? I must say he already looks like he's
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Speaker 1: got a bit of a fade because his hair, it's
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Speaker 1: actually such beautiful hair.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of have missed the point because
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Speaker 1: he's eight months old now, but I actually saw this
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Speaker 1: on TikTok and it did cross my mind because we
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Speaker 1: have always grown up with very thin hair. I'm actually
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Speaker 1: quite envious that mom didn't shave our heads when we
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Speaker 1: were four months old. But Ruby isn't the only person
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Speaker 1: to shave her baby's head. It's actually a tradition in
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Speaker 1: a lot of cultures and religions. And Ruby's auntie, who's Indonesian,
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Speaker 1: was the one who told her about the practice in
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Speaker 1: the first place. I saw on TikTok the other day
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Speaker 1: that there was an Adelaide mum who was fake tanning
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Speaker 1: her son. Oh, that I don't agree with. Yeah, they
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Speaker 1: were toddlers. I mean, the tan actually looked pretty good.
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Speaker 1: Like it looked very natural, but she has gone off
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Speaker 1: on TikTok. She gained so many followers over sharing that
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Speaker 1: she did this to her children. I'm sorry, that is
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Speaker 1: absolutely fucked. Is it kind of intuitive, though, that Ruby
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Speaker 1: made all this effort to shave her kid's head so
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Speaker 1: that their hair was thick and now she's letting her
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Speaker 1: son bleach the fuck out of his hair? We are
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Speaker 1: here at Loose Studios in Brisbane for my third Masterclass
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Speaker 1: of the Masterclass tour, which is absolutely insane. We have
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Speaker 1: just finished setting up all of the goodie bags. Lisa's
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Speaker 1: here with her energy drink because it's essential. Beauty TikToker
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Speaker 1: Ashley Day put her fans on notice this week following
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Speaker 1: her Makeup Masterclass in Brisbane. The makeup artist was forced
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Speaker 1: to set an ultimatum with her class attendees after goodie
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Speaker 1: bags went missing. Now, before we get into the lost
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Speaker 1: goodie bags, for those not familiar with her, Kate, who
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Speaker 1: is Ashley Day? So Ashley is an Australian makeup artist
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Speaker 1: with 1.1 million followers on TikTok, and she started out
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Speaker 1: sharing very honest beauty product reviews during the 2021 lockdown.
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Speaker 1: And her authenticity and relatability was a big part of
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Speaker 1: why she got so successful so quickly. And at the
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Speaker 1: end of last year, she was crowned the 2024 Australian
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Speaker 1: TikTok Beauty Creator of the Year. So Ashley is currently
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Speaker 1: in the middle of a makeup masterclass tour around Australia,
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Speaker 1: which felt like a real throwback to that 2018 era
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Speaker 1: when Michael Finch was doing it. So tickets to the
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Speaker 1: masterclass were originally a whopping $ 350, but Ashley ended up
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Speaker 1: reducing the cost to $ 199 to make it more accessible
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Speaker 1: to her followers. When? Finch's like 750 or something astronomical.
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Speaker 1: Because I think you've got a meet and greet and
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Speaker 1: you've got a goodie bag. I mean, in this cost
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Speaker 1: of living crisis, $ 350 for an event like that seems
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Speaker 1: quite expensive. I can see why she reduced the price. Well,
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Speaker 1: one of the big selling points of this class was
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Speaker 1: the fact that each attendee got a goodie bag valued
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Speaker 1: at $ 637. And these goodie bags are so good that
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Speaker 1: people have been sharing hauls of them on TikTok. So
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Speaker 1: they were clearly a hot item. What's in them? Oh,
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Speaker 1: so much good stuff like high-end makeup and different makeup brushes. Now,
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Speaker 1: following the masterclass in Brisbane over the weekend, Ashley took
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Speaker 1: to her Instagram story to reveal that some attendees took
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Speaker 1: more than one goodie bag. So this meant that people
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Speaker 1: in the class the next day were set to miss out. Now,
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Speaker 1: not only did Ashley have footage of the people taking
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Speaker 1: the bags, but she also knew their names. How embarrassing. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So Ashley said if she didn't receive the bags back
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Speaker 1: by 9am the next day, she would personally message the people.
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Speaker 1: Now the threat worked because the bags were returned alongside
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Speaker 1: flowers and a bottle of wine. Oh, I can't stand
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Speaker 1: people in situations like that who just get greedy. Like
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Speaker 1: you've got one bag, which sounds like it was a
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Speaker 1: pretty decent deal. Like, how selfish can you get? I
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Speaker 1: am a little bit surprised, not to blame Ashley, but
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Speaker 1: I was surprised that they didn't have a few backup
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Speaker 1: bags in case something like this happened. But also, so
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Speaker 1: were the bags displayed on the seats and people just
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Speaker 1: stole other people? Yeah, it's been an honesty system. Well,
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Speaker 1: apparently there were four people that didn't come to the
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Speaker 1: class and Ashley was going to mail them their bags. Oh, okay,
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Speaker 1: that makes a little bit more sense. Maybe they thought
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Speaker 1: the bags were going to waste. So they're just, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'll take one for the team. Yeah, I feel like
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Speaker 1: the fact that these people returned the bags with bottles
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Speaker 1: of wine and flowers... They probably weren't dirtbags just stealing them.
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Speaker 1: They probably thought, you know what? No one's taking these.
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Speaker 1: Let's bring them along. I feel a bit bad because
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Speaker 1: imagine if they were named and shamed online. Nah, the
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Speaker 1: thing is Ashley did mention that there was a lot
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Speaker 1: of sneakiness involved. They were overheard sort of colluding about
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Speaker 1: taking extra things. Well, that's a sign to everybody. Just
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Speaker 1: remember you were always being filmed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, at first I was like, why don't you just
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Speaker 1: name and shame them rather than personally messaging them? I
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Speaker 1: suppose because of the doxing laws. Also clearly because these
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Speaker 1: people are customers of hers. They've purchased an expensive ticket
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Speaker 1: to come to our show. And to be fair, who
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Speaker 1: hasn't been in a situation where there's some freebies and
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Speaker 1: you might be a bit cheeky and be like, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: if there's extras, I'll just pop a few more. People
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Speaker 1: act like animals when anything's for free. Like even if
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Speaker 1: you don't want the thing, you're like, I'll have it.
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Speaker 1: I'll have 50. Yeah. When I used to work at
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Speaker 1: the netball team, the Thunderbirds, I remember they had like Mr.
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Speaker 1: Fruit Choc there. I love Mr. Fruit Choc. And he
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Speaker 1: had little bags of fruit chocs. And the way they'd
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Speaker 1: throw them into the crowd and they just get swarmed
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Speaker 1: up like it's a chocolate but it's even like you
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Speaker 1: know when you work at an office and they'd have
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Speaker 1: a huge room full of pens and papers and stuff
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Speaker 1: you'd always take more than you necessarily needed because there
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Speaker 1: was something about this this is free rewinding to mr
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Speaker 1: fruit jock i want to know from our interstate listeners
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Speaker 1: Have you had fruit chocs before and do you rate them?
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Speaker 1: Because it's quite contentious whether people enjoy them or not.
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Speaker 1: It's a South Australian chocolate. I love fruit chocs. I
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Speaker 1: also love Haig's chocolate as well. The freckles are amazing. Oh,
12:21
Speaker 1: my God. I associate fruit chocs with Fridays because there
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Speaker 1: used to be this radio collaboration where they'd always promote them.
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Speaker 1: They are one of my go-to chocolates. They are insane. Sophie,
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Speaker 1: you're just getting me really excited for Easter. It's not
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Speaker 1: that far away. It's funny how no one celebrates it
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Speaker 1: as early as Christmas though. I did the worst thing
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Speaker 1: last Easter. I went on a chocolate ban and that
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Speaker 1: was for four weeks over Easter because I was going
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Speaker 1: to my sister-in-law's wedding and my skin broke out so
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Speaker 1: badly after my own wedding from stress that I was like,
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Speaker 1: It must be the chocolate I'm consuming and the sugar.
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Speaker 1: It did nothing. There are some really cute Easter items
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Speaker 1: out at the moment. I think at Best and Less,
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Speaker 1: they've got all these really cool hot cross bun. Like kids.
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Speaker 1: I've seen everyone on TikTok going nuts about Best and
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Speaker 1: Less saying that their new women's range is incredible. Oh, really? Well,
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Speaker 1: the kids range looks so cute. All of the Easter stuff.
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Speaker 1: They've also got really good plate sets. And anyway, I've
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Speaker 1: got to go into there because I'm going to be
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Speaker 1: celebrating Easter in a big way because my baby's due
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Speaker 1: around then. I don't know, something about it makes it
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Speaker 1: feel even more special this year. Also, I think because
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Speaker 1: it's been so hot, I'm sort of craving that autumn
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Speaker 1: weather and I feel like Easter is the best time
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Speaker 1: to get cosy and have your hot cross buns and
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Speaker 1: your cups of tea. Sounds very Molly Mae, getting cosy.
13:35
Speaker 1: The whole crowd booing is a pretty formative experience. This
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Speaker 1: year's Super Bowl brought very different scenes for Taylor Swift.
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Speaker 1: Last year, red and gold confetti fell around her. as
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Speaker 1: she locked lips with the love of her life, Travis Kelsey,
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Speaker 1: after he won his second straight Super Bowl. Fast forward
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Speaker 1: to this year, and the singer was aggressively booed by
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Speaker 1: the crowd and heckled by President Donald Trump as the
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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs suffered a demoralizing loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. Now,
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Speaker 1: Sophie Swifties didn't see this coming. No, these definitely weren't
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Speaker 1: the scenes that they were anticipating. If anything, there was
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Speaker 1: a lot of hope that there might be an on-field
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Speaker 1: proposal after the game. That was never going to happen.
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Speaker 1: And I would actually feel sorry for Taylor Swift if
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Speaker 1: that happened. Well, that's the thing. Travis Kelsey didn't water
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Speaker 1: down these rumors. He was asked by a reporter if
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Speaker 1: he was going to propose during the Super Bowl. And
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Speaker 1: he smiled at the camera and said, wouldn't you like
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Speaker 1: to know? So he definitely didn't put these rumors to bed. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but it's insulting if he's like, no, I'm not. Because
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Speaker 1: that creates a headline. I felt sorry for him at
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Speaker 1: all those press conferences because the majority of questions were
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Speaker 1: just about Taylor Swift. And you could tell that he
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Speaker 1: was trying to be polite, but it was grating on him. Well,
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Speaker 1: she sparked a lot of speculation when she ended up
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Speaker 1: arriving at the game wearing white. Oh, a white singlet. Well,
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Speaker 1: she wore a white singlet and a white jacket. And
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Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, my God. She knows it's happening. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If she knew that was happening, she wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have gone so cash this year. No, that is crazy.
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Speaker 1: And also, imagine if he did do that. All of
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City fans would have been so pissed off
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Speaker 1: because it's like this is about the team's win. It's
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Speaker 1: not about him and her. I don't think she'd want
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Speaker 1: a public proposal either. She lives so much of her
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Speaker 1: life publicly. It wouldn't seem right. Fans are just wanting
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Speaker 1: that moment like on Cinderella story when Hilary Duff and
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Speaker 1: Chad Michael Murray unite at the end of the game
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Speaker 1: and it's raining. Like we already had that last year
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Speaker 1: with them hugging. People need to stop being so greedy. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think this intense fascination with the proposal and also
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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift yet again being a talking point in the
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Speaker 1: lead up to the Super Bowl seemed to anger a
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Speaker 1: large section of male fans. I know even my partner-
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Speaker 1: He was so funny in the lead-up being like, I'm
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Speaker 1: so sick of it being all about her. The Brads
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Speaker 1: and Chads, as they say. Yeah. And they weren't happy
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Speaker 1: because last year she appeared on the Super Bowl broadcast
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Speaker 1: 12 times. So it was for a total of 54 seconds.
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Speaker 1: So not much. Yeah. I mean, the game goes for
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Speaker 1: about three and a half hours. Are they forgetting all
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Speaker 1: of the fans that they attracted by her being on
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Speaker 1: the screen for 54 seconds? And that she doesn't choose
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Speaker 1: how long she's filmed for. I know. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: Brads and Chads need to shut the fuck up because
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Speaker 1: she has done a lot for NFL. It's being reported
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Speaker 1: that she's brought in over $ 1 billion of revenue for them.
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Speaker 1: And The thing is the broadcaster seemed to have taken
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Speaker 1: a lot of these complaints seriously as in the lead
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Speaker 1: up over the past year, she really hasn't been as
16:23
Speaker 1: heavily featured during Chiefs games. Yeah. And you could tell
16:26
Speaker 1: even what Taylor was wearing that she had tried to
16:30
Speaker 1: sort of pare it back and not make it so
16:31
Speaker 1: much about her and her outfit. Yeah, because she essentially wore,
16:35
Speaker 1: I mean, brand names aside, she wore a white singlet
16:38
Speaker 1: and some glittery denim shorts I saw on TikTok there
16:42
Speaker 1: were some wags who were bagging her out saying that
16:44
Speaker 1: she did them all a disservice by dressing in such
16:47
Speaker 1: a casual manner she's like they're like this is the
16:50
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this is your time to shine but she's
16:52
Speaker 1: trying not to be relatable still to her audience and
16:55
Speaker 1: A lot of people say that Taylor Swift has bad
16:57
Speaker 1: fashion taste, but that's why everyone likes her. I thought
17:01
Speaker 1: she looked cool. Yeah, I thought she looked cool as well.
17:03
Speaker 1: Talking about bad fashion taste, what the hell was Travis
17:05
Speaker 1: Kelsey wearing? I nearly died because I clicked on the
17:08
Speaker 1: outspoken Instagram story on Monday night and I saw that
17:12
Speaker 1: Sophie had uploaded some video of Travis Kelsey walking into
17:15
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl wearing in what looked like a suit
17:18
Speaker 1: from Anchorman. It was this maroon suit. It was brown.
17:21
Speaker 1: And it was like brownie maroon. I thought it looked
17:23
Speaker 1: quite brown. It was like chocolate brown.
17:25
Speaker 2: Well, whatever.
17:26
Speaker 1: Not the greatest color. It looked very 70s. And Soph
17:29
Speaker 1: had put like some sighing emojis as if he looked
17:31
Speaker 1: so hot. I didn't put any emojis. They were on
17:34
Speaker 1: the thing already. Well, sorry. I thought you had put
17:36
Speaker 1: them on. And I was like, Okay, I must have
17:40
Speaker 1: been in a weak moment. I thought he looked quite hot.
17:42
Speaker 1: Are you serious? I actually liked it. I have a
17:45
Speaker 1: soft spot for Travis Kelsey and I like that he's
17:48
Speaker 1: into fashion. See, I am all for Travis and Taylor,
17:51
Speaker 1: but he looked like an absolute flog. Well, maybe because
17:53
Speaker 1: he had the glittery shirt underneath. It was sort of
17:54
Speaker 1: matching with her glittery shorts. It was quite cute. The
17:57
Speaker 1: worst part was when he lost the Super Bowl. He
17:59
Speaker 1: had to get changed back into that outfit and he
18:01
Speaker 1: looked so deflated walking around. It's quite interesting because even
18:06
Speaker 1: though Taylor Swift has brought in so much revenue and
18:08
Speaker 1: attention for the NFL, The broadcaster said that they would
18:12
Speaker 1: not have a dedicated camera on her this time around,
18:14
Speaker 1: and they'd only cut to her when they felt like
18:16
Speaker 1: it was fitting. So basically, she was only going to
18:19
Speaker 1: be shown if Travis did something remarkable during the game.
18:21
Speaker 1: Which didn't happen. Well, yes, unfortunately for him, it was
18:24
Speaker 1: not his day. So it makes sense as to why
18:26
Speaker 1: she got a lot less air time, as there wasn't
18:28
Speaker 1: really much for her to react to. Well, ironically, the
18:30
Speaker 1: only time Taylor was shown was during a break in
18:33
Speaker 1: the first quarter of And she was booed by the crowd.
18:36
Speaker 1: And this has made headlines everywhere. And you could tell
18:39
Speaker 1: that the boo came from a largely male section of
18:41
Speaker 1: the crowd who seemed to take a lot of delight
18:44
Speaker 1: in heckling her. I felt so sorry for Taylor because
18:47
Speaker 1: she looked so confused. So in the vision, she was
18:49
Speaker 1: sitting alongside rapper Ice Spice. And as the boos flooded in,
18:54
Speaker 1: she was looking around really bewildered. Well, she gave that
18:56
Speaker 1: side eye. Was that perfect? You know that meme of
18:59
Speaker 1: that monkey giving the side eye? Yes, everyone keeps saying it.
19:01
Speaker 1: And You could read her lips. She said, what is
19:04
Speaker 1: going on? She was absolutely shocked. And it would be
19:06
Speaker 1: really weird for her to be booed because, you know,
19:09
Speaker 1: she's just finished up the Ears Tour where she is
19:11
Speaker 1: absolutely cheered and everyone loves her. You know, when she
19:14
Speaker 1: does that thing in the crowd in the Ears Tour
19:16
Speaker 1: where she points, it's like, woo! Well, a lot of
19:19
Speaker 1: the mainstream media tried to play it off and say
19:21
Speaker 1: that it was an angry response from Philadelphia fans because, ironically,
19:25
Speaker 1: Taylor used to support Philadelphia before dating Travis. Another theory
19:30
Speaker 1: was that the booze came from some Chiefs fans who
19:33
Speaker 1: weren't impressed by the fact that she and Travis went
19:36
Speaker 1: out on what they were calling a pre-Super Bowl date.
19:39
Speaker 1: So they were spotted out for dinner on Friday night
19:42
Speaker 1: ahead of the Sunday game. And it's usually common for
19:45
Speaker 1: players to stay in their hotel rooms 38 hours before
19:48
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They were with Patrick Mahomes and his wife.
19:51
Speaker 1: They were out on a double date. Yeah. Well, I
19:53
Speaker 1: think everyone was sort of blaming Taylor that it's her
19:56
Speaker 1: influence on him. I love it's always the way, like
19:58
Speaker 1: these men have to eat. So when I worked at
20:01
Speaker 1: the 36ers, we got into the grand final series and
20:03
Speaker 1: I traveled with the team And we all went out
20:06
Speaker 1: before the grand final. Like it was just a normal thing. Yeah,
20:09
Speaker 1: but it's not the Super Bowl, which is worth millions
20:12
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars. But this wasn't even the night before.
20:14
Speaker 1: It was the Friday night. They would have had their
20:16
Speaker 1: team meal. Oh, but this is the thing. These are
20:18
Speaker 1: all bullshit excuses as to why she got booed because
20:21
Speaker 1: it was clear that it was Philadelphia fans. It wasn't
20:23
Speaker 1: Chiefs fans who were booing her. And I think that
20:26
Speaker 1: the booing says something greater about the misogyny that has
20:29
Speaker 1: been on display in America ever since Donald Trump was
20:32
Speaker 1: elected because it Ironically, an hour before Taylor was booed,
20:36
Speaker 1: the crowd roared and cheered in support of Donald Trump
20:39
Speaker 1: when he was shown on the same screen standing in
20:41
Speaker 1: salute during the national anthem. That just says a lot
20:44
Speaker 1: about the crowd that were there. Yeah, very right-wing crowd. Well,
20:47
Speaker 1: Donald Trump took great delight in Taylor getting booed. So
20:50
Speaker 1: he wrote on his own social media platform, which is
20:52
Speaker 1: called Truth Social, the only one that had a tougher
20:55
Speaker 1: night with the Kansas City Chiefs is Taylor Swift. She
20:58
Speaker 1: got booed out of the stadium. MAGA is very unforgiving.
21:02
Speaker 1: He also retweeted a post on X, which read, Trump
21:06
Speaker 1: gets massive cheers at the Super Bowl while Taylor Swift
21:09
Speaker 1: gets booed. The world is healing. Well, he clearly hasn't
21:11
Speaker 1: got over the fact that Taylor endorsed Kamala Harris last year. Well,
21:15
Speaker 1: remember he wrote on his own social media platform that
21:17
Speaker 1: he hated Taylor Swift after that. This would have been
21:20
Speaker 1: really scary for Taylor Swift because after the game, there
21:23
Speaker 1: were a mob of Eagles fans who were seen burning
21:26
Speaker 1: Chiefs jerseys and also aggressively chanting, fuck Taylor Swift. are
21:30
Speaker 1: just awful. This makes me so mad. And I think
21:32
Speaker 1: people are analyzing this way too much because now people
21:35
Speaker 1: are saying that Travis and Taylor are in their loser era.
21:39
Speaker 1: So a clip has gone viral of TikToker Ali Kin
21:41
Speaker 1: saying that Travis and Taylor are about to enter this
21:44
Speaker 1: new phase of their relationship because they've only ever been
21:47
Speaker 1: with each other when they've been winning. So last year,
21:50
Speaker 1: Taylor won album of the year at the Grammys and
21:53
Speaker 1: Travis won obviously the Superbowl. And this year, Taylor lost
21:57
Speaker 1: out album of the year to Beyonce and Travis has
21:59
Speaker 1: lost at the Super Bowl. So now they're apparently going
22:02
Speaker 1: to be seeing these very different sides of themselves as losers.
22:06
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of clips saying, oh God, they
22:08
Speaker 1: really feel for Taylor Swift because she is going to
22:11
Speaker 1: have to be working in overtime to commiserate Travis Kelsey.
22:14
Speaker 1: Because you know what babies men are when they lose
22:17
Speaker 1: any sort of sporting games? Yeah, I definitely think that
22:19
Speaker 1: people act differently when they lose, but I wouldn't ever
22:22
Speaker 1: call coming second in the NFL, a loser. Yeah, but
22:27
Speaker 1: I think it's just a clever term to use because
22:30
Speaker 1: they do have a point. Like their relationship has always
22:33
Speaker 1: been at this pinnacle where things are going great for them.
22:35
Speaker 1: And suddenly when things aren't going so well and you're
22:37
Speaker 1: having to put up with someone's being mopey over losing
22:41
Speaker 1: a game, like it does cause some tension. The other
22:43
Speaker 1: thing that's going to be different is that Taylor Swift
22:45
Speaker 1: isn't going to be on the road anymore for the
22:47
Speaker 1: Ears Tour. So they'll be spending a lot more time together. Yeah,
22:49
Speaker 1: but I think it will be very interesting to see
22:52
Speaker 1: how their relationship plays out over the next year. Yeah,
22:54
Speaker 1: but that's looking at their relationship from a very superficial level.
22:57
Speaker 1: I'm sure they've had a lot of personal ups and
22:59
Speaker 1: downs during the time that they've been together. Also, Taylor
23:02
Speaker 1: Swift has had to deal with a lot being on
23:04
Speaker 1: the Ears tour. I mean, she had that terrorist threat.
23:08
Speaker 1: I mean, that's clearly something that would have been very
23:10
Speaker 1: difficult to deal with. Yeah, I don't think anyone's saying
23:12
Speaker 1: that they haven't been through anything difficult. It is just
23:15
Speaker 1: interesting to analyze it at the moment. Both of them
23:17
Speaker 1: didn't have these huge wins that everyone expected them to
23:20
Speaker 1: have and they're both going to have to be there
23:22
Speaker 1: to support one another in those difficult times. It's so stupid.
23:25
Speaker 1: It's just going to make their relationship even stronger. Yeah.
23:28
Speaker 1: They can both relate over apparently being losers. I mean,
23:32
Speaker 1: I hardly would consider either of them losers. If they're losers,
23:35
Speaker 1: what are we? You know what I mean? Fuck. Now
23:38
Speaker 1: let's get into our Friday debrief. And I need to
23:41
Speaker 1: talk to you guys about Married at First Sight because
23:44
Speaker 1: I am hooked this year and I'm so disappointed that
23:46
Speaker 1: you guys haven't been watching. I feel like this season
23:48
Speaker 1: is so good that I'm almost tempted to go and
23:51
Speaker 1: watch on catch up because I'm seeing it everywhere on TikTok.
23:55
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's one of the best seasons I've had.
23:56
Speaker 1: It's such an effort though to get through the weddings.
23:59
Speaker 1: Like I've always, each year, like the last couple of years,
24:02
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it because I've tried. And then I'm
24:04
Speaker 1: finally at the end of all the weddings and then
24:06
Speaker 1: they add more bonus weddings. There's too many people. This
24:09
Speaker 1: year they did a really good job of getting through
24:11
Speaker 1: the weddings a lot quicker. They showed a lot more
24:13
Speaker 1: of the honeymoon content. So I think it's worth the effort.
24:16
Speaker 1: Even just a Sunday afternoon, just sit down. You can
24:19
Speaker 1: fast forward some of the bits. But I have to
24:21
Speaker 1: have a rant about the men on this year's series.
24:24
Speaker 1: Because everyone is just in shock at how disrespectful a
24:28
Speaker 1: lot of these men have been to the brides. There
24:30
Speaker 1: was a scandal last week about basically the contestants had
24:33
Speaker 1: to rate their partners from least attractive to most attractive
24:36
Speaker 1: out of the group. Because that's always a good idea. Well,
24:38
Speaker 1: it reminded me of a conversation we had recently, Sophie,
24:41
Speaker 1: because you were asking one of our friends if you've
24:43
Speaker 1: ever played that game with a partner where you talk
24:46
Speaker 1: about their friends and which friend you would date. Or
24:48
Speaker 1: who you would date out of the friends. Which I
24:50
Speaker 1: was like, who would ever play that? That's like the
24:52
Speaker 1: most toxic. You've played that with Brandon. She said she had. Well,
24:55
Speaker 1: I've tried to get him to answer, but he's not
24:58
Speaker 1: really forthcoming. He always just says, oh, you. That's just
25:01
Speaker 1: an argument waiting to happen. Maybe I should bring that
25:03
Speaker 1: in on that. Well, basically the challenge of them having
25:05
Speaker 1: to rank their partners is just an excuse for them
25:08
Speaker 1: all to have a big argument. Some of the men
25:09
Speaker 1: were so stupid. Like they ranked their partners not as
25:13
Speaker 1: the number one person. Some of them took it so literally.
25:16
Speaker 1: Like this guy, Ryan, he's the warrior in the series. Oh,
25:19
Speaker 1: he's a self-proclaimed warrior. I don't even really know what
25:21
Speaker 1: that means. Is he into martial arts or something? Yeah,
25:25
Speaker 1: it's just a whole load of wank. But basically he
25:28
Speaker 1: took this task so seriously and was looking at the
25:31
Speaker 1: bone structure of all of the women and really analyzing
25:35
Speaker 1: which one he found the most attractive. I mean, the
25:37
Speaker 1: challenge is meant to be that you have the respect
25:40
Speaker 1: for your partner, that you put them number one. Why
25:42
Speaker 1: don't they just lie? Like, do they actually think that
25:45
Speaker 1: they're under a lie detector test and they've got to
25:48
Speaker 1: answer so literally? Well, this week got even better because
25:50
Speaker 1: it's been intimacy week. stuff they thought was appropriate to
25:54
Speaker 1: show at that 8 p.m. time. So I've seen so
25:56
Speaker 1: many people on TikTok saying as adults, they had to
25:59
Speaker 1: leave the room because it was too awkward to watch
26:01
Speaker 1: with their parents. Like what? Well, they had a lot
26:03
Speaker 1: of the girls went out lingerie shopping because the idea
26:06
Speaker 1: was that they had a fantasy night with their partner.
26:08
Speaker 1: It was their ideal date. And so a lot of
26:10
Speaker 1: them went to get lingerie. So there were scenes of,
26:13
Speaker 1: for example, one of the couples, one of the girls,
26:16
Speaker 1: she was dressed in this really revealing lingerie set. I
26:19
Speaker 1: can just see that people are going to pick you
26:20
Speaker 1: up for saying lingerie. Okay, well, whatever. I hate myself
26:25
Speaker 1: the way I say it. Well, whatever. I'm sorry. I'm
26:26
Speaker 1: from Adelaide. We have a different accent. I don't even
26:29
Speaker 1: think you can blame that as an Adelaide thing. I
26:30
Speaker 1: think that's just an us thing. Well, anyway, she was
26:33
Speaker 1: licking Nutella off her husband's nipples and that was shown. Yeah,
26:37
Speaker 1: it was just a lot of racy stuff. And on
26:39
Speaker 1: the most recent episode– this guy, Ryan, the warrior, he
26:44
Speaker 1: decided to tell all of the grooms about his fantasy night.
26:47
Speaker 1: And he proceeded to describe his wife as having crazy eyes.
26:51
Speaker 1: And this is off the back of another one of
26:53
Speaker 1: the contestants labeling her as someone with crazy eyes. It
26:56
Speaker 1: was super offensive. And then he decided to tell everybody
27:00
Speaker 1: what great head jobs she gave. The only person, sorry, Sophie,
27:04
Speaker 1: to stick up for this woman was Alessandra, the sex expert.
27:08
Speaker 1: None of the men, they all stood there shocked, but
27:10
Speaker 1: none of them said, hey mate, you can't actually say
27:12
Speaker 1: that about your wife. Look, it's clearly disgusting, but I'm
27:15
Speaker 1: not surprised. It seems like every year there's something like
27:18
Speaker 1: this that goes viral for Channel 9 and they just
27:20
Speaker 1: use it to get ratings. It just gets trashier each year.
27:24
Speaker 1: What I kind of like though, is the fact that
27:26
Speaker 1: the men seem to be in the spotlight for their
27:28
Speaker 1: bad behavior, because generally there's a focus on two women
27:32
Speaker 1: who are fighting and you have to pick sides. Yeah. Well,
27:36
Speaker 1: if anyone is watching maths, I would highly recommend to
27:38
Speaker 1: go and follow Abby Chatfield's content on TikTok because she
27:41
Speaker 1: has been sharing Gogglebox like reviews of her and her boyfriend,
27:45
Speaker 1: Adam Hyde, watching it. And Adam's responses are hilarious. Well,
27:51
Speaker 1: I've got a bit of an update on my house
27:53
Speaker 1: rentals because that is how I've been spending all of
27:55
Speaker 1: my weekends so far. A lot of listeners were very
27:57
Speaker 1: invested in the prints that you spoke about the other week.
28:00
Speaker 1: I'm still looking. Thank you so much for everyone who
28:02
Speaker 1: sent in recommendations. I'm still on the hunt for some prints.
28:05
Speaker 1: I haven't found exactly what I wanted, but basically I'm
28:08
Speaker 1: so excited because this week we have locked in our
28:12
Speaker 1: kitchen renovations. Now we are going through an Adelaide company
28:15
Speaker 1: where basically it's called DIY Kitchens and You order the
28:19
Speaker 1: kitchens to arrive. So they come partly made. When you
28:22
Speaker 1: say the kitchens, do you mean the cabinetry? The cabinetry, yeah.
28:25
Speaker 1: And this is not an ad. This is not an ad.
28:27
Speaker 1: We've paid full price for everything. But basically, my mother
28:30
Speaker 1: and father-in-law and husband, they're going to be installing the
28:35
Speaker 1: kitchens because it's the most cost-effective way to do it.
28:38
Speaker 1: They're confident that they'll do it. But we've got a
28:40
Speaker 1: bit of a time restraint because I'm having my baby
28:43
Speaker 1: shower at the end of March. And the cabinets all
28:46
Speaker 1: arrive mid-March. We're also hoping to put all of our
28:51
Speaker 1: new floorboards in as well. Oh my God. And this
28:55
Speaker 1: on the weekend, mom kindly came over and helped me
28:58
Speaker 1: paint our room. We've got a bit of a feature
29:00
Speaker 1: wall happening. Anyway, as people know, I've been sleeping on
29:02
Speaker 1: the floor for probably 10 days now in my pregnant state,
29:05
Speaker 1: which has been absolute hell. Wait, have you got a
29:07
Speaker 1: backup option for if all of this isn't ready for
29:10
Speaker 1: your baby shower? My mother-in-law was a bit concerned about it.
29:13
Speaker 1: She's like, should we try and push the baby shower out?
29:15
Speaker 1: But It's a really tough one, Amy, because you're giving
29:18
Speaker 1: birth like two weeks after my baby shower. I've got
29:21
Speaker 1: my sister-in-law where I'm baby watch at the moment. I
29:23
Speaker 1: want her to be able to come and for her
29:25
Speaker 1: to have had enough time in between having her baby
29:28
Speaker 1: and being able to get out and about. So there's
29:31
Speaker 1: a lot of restrictions in place. So I'm just hoping
29:33
Speaker 1: it'll happen. Let's throw in a kitchen renovation to that stress.
29:36
Speaker 1: Why not? I mean, it's actually kitchen and laundry. So
29:39
Speaker 1: it it's gonna be hectic so lots of uber eats
29:43
Speaker 1: the thing is we need to be able to cook
29:44
Speaker 1: in the kitchen because I'm like oh I want to
29:45
Speaker 1: make food for the.
29:47
Speaker 2: Baby anyway you're gonna end up having this baby shower
29:50
Speaker 2: problem I'm gonna say probably at my house I'm getting
29:52
Speaker 2: nervous because I live five minutes away from Sophie so
29:55
Speaker 2: I'm guessing you may be coming around for dinners or
29:57
Speaker 2: well that would.
29:57
Speaker 1: Be nice if you're offering We've got a local Vietnamese
30:00
Speaker 1: shop that I think we'll be frequenting quite a bit.
30:03
Speaker 1: My debrief is a little bit different. It's just the
30:05
Speaker 1: fact that I'm loving Meghan Markle's Instagram story. So she's
30:08
Speaker 1: been quite active on there because she's at the Invictus
30:10
Speaker 1: Games with Prince Harry. And it's really interesting because a
30:13
Speaker 1: lot of influencers have evolved, obviously, to talk to the
30:16
Speaker 1: camera and be really authentic and sharing what you're doing. However,
30:21
Speaker 1: she's just got someone filming her doing stuff. Yeah, I
30:24
Speaker 1: think that's more of a royal vibe. Like it's not
30:26
Speaker 1: as if you see Kate Middleton, she's like, I'm here
30:29
Speaker 1: at this event. Yeah, I think it's a tactic for
30:31
Speaker 1: her to not appear too much like an influencer, but
30:35
Speaker 1: she's still sharing about her life. Yeah, but I've been
30:37
Speaker 1: loving it because it's just very millennial of her. But
30:39
Speaker 1: don't you think as a whole people think it's a
30:42
Speaker 1: bit naff now to be talking on Instagram stories? Like
30:45
Speaker 1: I see a lot of even Gen Z influencers talking
30:48
Speaker 1: less and less to the camera. I think it's the
30:50
Speaker 1: best way to engage with your audience. It is a
30:52
Speaker 1: good way, but I've noticed that Instagram stories have changed.
30:55
Speaker 1: But isn't that because they're more moving those conversations to
30:57
Speaker 1: TikTok because they stay on the platform? Whereas I think
31:00
Speaker 1: someone like Meghan Markle, she could still talk to her
31:02
Speaker 1: Instagram following because she's not going on to TikTok. Yet. Yet. Yet. Well,
31:07
Speaker 1: I don't think she could go on TikTok. I just
31:09
Speaker 1: think she has to stick to it. I think Instagram
31:11
Speaker 1: is a little bit nicer than TikTok for her. I
31:13
Speaker 1: don't know about that. Well, I think that's all we've
31:15
Speaker 1: got time for today. Thank you so much for listening
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