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Almost Famous In Depth: Mykenna Dorn · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth.
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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Today it
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Speaker 1: is just me and McKenna who you guys know, McKenna
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Speaker 1: Dorn who you know from Peters season. I can't believe
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Speaker 1: how long it's been have you since you were on
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Speaker 1: the Bachelor? It is it's wild to me to like
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Speaker 1: shink back like we filmed it in twenty nineteen, and
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Speaker 1: I mean also with you know, the pandemic, I think
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Speaker 1: it feels like twenty years ago. Yeah, you guys just
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Speaker 1: had the perfect timeline. Your season ended up rapping right
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Speaker 1: around the time, like rapping, rapping, like with the finale
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Speaker 1: and everything. Now it was March. I remember I was
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Speaker 1: in La and then like I flew home and the
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Speaker 1: World showdown, Like it was bizarre. It's crazy. How are
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Speaker 1: you seing this? Your season to me is one of
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Speaker 1: like the last like really really memorable ones with a
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Speaker 1: really memorable cast. You had so many top girls, a
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Speaker 1: lot of great girls. How do you do you keep
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Speaker 1: up with anyone from the show now? Like who your
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Speaker 1: best he's from the show, Because if you're moved, like
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Speaker 1: as much as you think you're going to be best
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Speaker 1: friends forever, you usually just keep a handful around, which
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Speaker 1: is sad but true. Yeah, I pretty much just talked
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Speaker 1: to like Kelsey and Kelly, and then there's another girl
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Speaker 1: named Savannah that I talked to from my season. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: but you don't watch The Bachelor anymore? Correct, No, don't
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Speaker 1: tell us why I don't. I think being on it,
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Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of the show too, and
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Speaker 1: I don't know being on it just and this like
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Speaker 1: the season that I was on, and I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think I just like I can't watch it gets
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Speaker 1: me anxiety for some reason, Like I just I just
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Speaker 1: can't watch it anymore. M Yeah, I don't know. There's
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Speaker 1: just it just doesn't interest me in a way of
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Speaker 1: like that I used to did you stop right away
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Speaker 1: or did it just give you some Yeah, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: haven't watched. I haven't watched the full season. I think
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Speaker 1: I've watched a couple episode is here and there. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I have not watched from the beginning to the end.
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Speaker 1: And it used to be like I used to watch
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Speaker 1: with my family, with my friends, and now I just
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Speaker 1: go on with my Monday nights. So I know that
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Speaker 1: you've been really open on social media about how much
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Speaker 1: the show gave you anxiety, and it really try to
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Speaker 1: crush yourself esteem to a certain degree. I'm sure that
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Speaker 1: that plays a role in you watching anymore. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was just a really I think the Bachelor and
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Speaker 1: then going on to the Paradise. I remember, like last
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Speaker 1: time I was on your podcast, it was before I
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Speaker 1: went on Paradise. Yeah, like, go for it, go have fun,
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Speaker 1: like go I'm so sorry because when I was last devastating,
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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I like hug out a room for
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Speaker 1: two weeks and then I went out and I was
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Speaker 1: last McKennon. My memory from you being on Paradise was
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Speaker 1: just you showing up to one of those parties as
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Speaker 1: like one of the other girls, like there to mix
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Speaker 1: and mingle. Yeah. I went to the party and then
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Speaker 1: I went back to my room and they're like, you
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Speaker 1: did great, just here for another week in a bit.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. What what year was that?
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Speaker 1: Was that the year that um Chris and Crystal got married?
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Speaker 1: That Yeah, yeah, okay, Christina, oh, Serena and Joe. So
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Speaker 1: there's just like recently, Yeah, that was the first Paradise
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Speaker 1: season back after the pandemic. I believe because we skipped
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Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, because there's a bunch there was like
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Speaker 1: Matt season, my season, Everyone's a bunch of different people. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to put you back in that situation. If
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Speaker 1: I had it, it's all good. What was it about
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Speaker 1: the show just to get deep here for a second
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Speaker 1: that you really thought messed with you? Do you think
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Speaker 1: that it was the filming portion or the after effect
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Speaker 1: in the social media and all that, which one had
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Speaker 1: a heavier effect on you? It was I think the filming.
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Speaker 1: I think the two on one was really difficult for me.
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Speaker 1: Um in that just like the last thing I want
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Speaker 1: to do is like get in like an argument with
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Speaker 1: someone like kind of like yell, and like I think
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Speaker 1: that was just really like took a lot out of me.
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Speaker 1: And then to watch it over and to like be
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Speaker 1: portrayed in that way and then read online and I
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Speaker 1: think just like I don't know, I think I look
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Speaker 1: back and I'm like, I wish I didn't do it.
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Speaker 1: I also, I was twenty two, so yeah, like I
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Speaker 1: still am. I feel like I was. I was just
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Speaker 1: so young and I think I like I had a
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Speaker 1: couple too many drinks and like all the stuff, and
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Speaker 1: I think it just it's just really hard for me
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Speaker 1: to look back at it and watch it, Like I
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Speaker 1: have not watched it since, Like I won't allow my
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Speaker 1: my boyfriend to watch it, like I'm like he's seen
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Speaker 1: some clips on YouTube. But but I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: think it's just it's just a hard chapter for me
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Speaker 1: to like think back to and the editing, not the
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Speaker 1: other thing, but just like watching it with the TV
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Speaker 1: and then people's comments and yeah, all of that was
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Speaker 1: just like all the whole shebang, the whole mixture of
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Speaker 1: it all. So well, it's interesting that you say that
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Speaker 1: your age played into it. I know it's kind of
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Speaker 1: like cliche at this point for me to be like, yeah, age,
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Speaker 1: every wed still young? Are we so young? But like
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Speaker 1: if we were, look look at science and biology, your
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Speaker 1: frontal lobe, that decision making bard of your brain isn't
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Speaker 1: fully developed until you're twenty six, twenty seven, and it
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Speaker 1: definitely plays a role in like what you do when
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Speaker 1: you're on TV and those high stake situations and these
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Speaker 1: really overly emotional situations when you're not getting enough sleep
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Speaker 1: and all of that. So do you think there should
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Speaker 1: be like kind of do you think they should up
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Speaker 1: the age require because right now it's twenty one. But
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Speaker 1: maybe just like for like the mental health sake and
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Speaker 1: just like knowing yourself, you know, like just knowing yourself
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Speaker 1: and having like this sort of self esteem that you
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Speaker 1: get with age, maybe really official. I was, Yeah, I was.
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Speaker 1: I was. I felt like I knew myself, you know.
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Speaker 1: I feel like you're like I think I knowell me,
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Speaker 1: I know this, and yeah, I just I feel like
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Speaker 1: I just turned twenty six and I feel like I
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Speaker 1: am starting to really get myself now and like I'm
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Speaker 1: in like my first like long term relationship and like
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Speaker 1: just like growing through all of that. And I think
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Speaker 1: being on the show at twenty two, I was like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was really insecure, and I
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Speaker 1: let like I compared myself to a lot of these
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Speaker 1: you know, the girls there, and that affected me. And
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Speaker 1: I think I went in like I'm gonna have fun,
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Speaker 1: Like that still is my personality today. I'm all about
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Speaker 1: how it fun. But I think I just like how
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Speaker 1: like there was too much of that I couldn't really
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Speaker 1: just like get my feelings into one and just um
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Speaker 1: like sit down with him, I have a good conversation.
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Speaker 1: Like I think I was just constantly like anxious about
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Speaker 1: everything that was going on. Um yeah, I just yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think they definitely shoot up up up at it.
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Speaker 1: Like I could never imagine being on the show at
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Speaker 1: twenty two. At twenty two, I was like over analyzing
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Speaker 1: eye contact from Joe Jonas from the stage. Okay, now
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Speaker 1: twenty six is when I went on, and it's just
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Speaker 1: about the age that I think is perfect. I really
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Speaker 1: do think that twenty six is probably like if I
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Speaker 1: had to have the perfect Bachelor's starting age, it would
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Speaker 1: probably be twenty six. Um, okay, well you you do
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Speaker 1: have a boyfriend now, a long term relationship. You say
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Speaker 1: you're first of sorts. It's been over a year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's for a year and a half now, just moved
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Speaker 1: into together in January. So I saw the move on
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Speaker 1: social Yeah. Yeah, thanks have been that. They've been really good. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So you kind of kept him secret first. You weren't
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Speaker 1: showing his face, you weren't telling much. Yeah, my my
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Speaker 1: my boyfriend London. He is just a very like he
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Speaker 1: doesn't post on social media. He's he's a he's an engineer.
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Speaker 1: He's you know, very like private with his life, you know,
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Speaker 1: just with his friends and his family. And I think
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Speaker 1: I just I really wanted to respect that, like he
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Speaker 1: just didn't. You know, even today we don't. I don't
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Speaker 1: really post a much of him on online. Um you know,
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Speaker 1: like that's my thing, and like I like to be
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Speaker 1: very open, but not everyone likes to be very open,
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Speaker 1: right so um yeah, but I waited a bit. I
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Speaker 1: think it. Part of it was a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a teasing thing. It was just kind of just fun
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Speaker 1: to just like continue to do like the little soft
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Speaker 1: launches the back of his head, like and like it
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Speaker 1: just thought we did. I did it for six months
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Speaker 1: and then I was like boom, this is whom and yeah,
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Speaker 1: so how'd you guys meet? Um, it's it's a fun story.
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Speaker 1: Um yeah yeah. So it was back in it was
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Speaker 1: actually like two months. Well I guess it was just
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Speaker 1: it was October twenty twenty one, so it was just
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Speaker 1: like after or Paradise. So everything worked out at the end,
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Speaker 1: everything worked out. It was Saturday night. I was like
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Speaker 1: having a bath and my one of my good friends
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Speaker 1: was like, it's a girl's knight, come out and I
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Speaker 1: was like, you know what, No, I'm having a bath,
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Speaker 1: Like I'm not going out to night, Like no, there's
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Speaker 1: not I'm not really going out to a person anyways,
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Speaker 1: but she convinced me we're out. We go to this restaurant,
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Speaker 1: We go to another restaurant, and one of her friends
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Speaker 1: was newly single and was sitting up a dating profile
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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I actually just
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Speaker 1: made him on last week, Like I'm just gonna I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna check mine and see what's happening. And I had
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Speaker 1: someone reply Linda and my boyfriend, and we had a
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Speaker 1: very brief conversation. He said he was downtown. I said
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Speaker 1: I was downtown. I said I was at this restaurant,
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Speaker 1: and then he said I'm at this restaurant. So we
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Speaker 1: were sitting at the same restaurant. Yeah, in the effing world,
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Speaker 1: that's awesome. That's a great meat cute. Yeah, so it
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Speaker 1: was was very briefed. I was actually just leaving when
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Speaker 1: I got his message that he said that he was there,
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Speaker 1: so he came outside. We said hi real quick, and
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Speaker 1: then two days later we went on a date and yeah,
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Speaker 1: that is so like, yeah, so how is it living
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Speaker 1: together now? Your first living boyfriend. It's been good. It
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Speaker 1: definitely is a transition. I mean I've I've never had
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Speaker 1: a sister, so I've never had to like sharing that
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Speaker 1: kind of sense. I never had a roommate, Like I just, oh,
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Speaker 1: you've never had a roommate. Yeah, I lived with myself
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Speaker 1: and you go into living with a boyfriend. Wow, give
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Speaker 1: us all the dirt, you know, seriously, tell us what's annoying.
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Speaker 1: I realized yesterday will organized it like we were away.
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Speaker 1: I was away for on and off two weeks. Yeah.
10:46
Speaker 1: I popped home for like two nights in between that,
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Speaker 1: and I was unpacking for basically two weeks. It took
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Speaker 1: me like five hours to organize the house. And I
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Speaker 1: was like, I'm realizing that I will never have that
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Speaker 1: perfect Instagram organized house because I'm married to someone who
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Speaker 1: doesn't have that priority. You know what the opposite is.
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Speaker 1: My boyfriend is very clean and organized like that organized
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Speaker 1: like organized like organizers in the drawers type. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: I am definitely a little best year one. And I
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Speaker 1: have a lot of clothes. I have taking. We have
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Speaker 1: a guest room, we have an office. I have every
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Speaker 1: closet in there. He has one closet upstairs. I feel you,
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Speaker 1: I have all the closets. He is very clean, like
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Speaker 1: he is very so we actually have a pretty quick
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Speaker 1: clean house here, but he actually works at a town
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Speaker 1: during the week so I'm pretty much here by myself,
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Speaker 1: and then he keeps home on the weekends. So it's
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Speaker 1: like we're like living together but like half of two
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Speaker 1: months and then like half a month or not. But
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like a slow transition. That's good. But
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Speaker 1: I think it's been great. I mean I think it's
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Speaker 1: just kind of learning like whose role is what in
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Speaker 1: a sense of like who does this? Who does that?
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Speaker 1: Like like in like the home, you know, like our
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Speaker 1: responsibilities in the sense so who does what? Um? I mean, well,
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Speaker 1: I'm here most of the time, so like I pretty
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Speaker 1: much like I'm always like I clean up. I make
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Speaker 1: sure that everything's like backing him and stuff. But when
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Speaker 1: he's tell them, I'm like you clean this bathroom, I'm
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Speaker 1: backing everything else. Um. I mean I make him do
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Speaker 1: like all like the outside work, like yeah on everything,
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Speaker 1: like yeah, you can do the house. Yeah, we live
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Speaker 1: in like a house people like a friend yard and stuff.
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Speaker 1: So I make him do all that, and when he's here,
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Speaker 1: he does all the garbageot like the kind of nu Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's really it's kind of a little gender role. But
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Speaker 1: I get it. When when he's home, we're pretty we're
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Speaker 1: pretty equal and everything like someone that person cleans like
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Speaker 1: the other person cleans and opposite away around and um,
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Speaker 1: I think we have it pretty like pretty good. I
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Speaker 1: think just learning in the end, like in the beginning,
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Speaker 1: just like who should do Like I'm mostly here, so
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Speaker 1: like I do keep things just clean, but I mean
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Speaker 1: when he's here, I'm like, you can clean all the
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Speaker 1: bathrooms please. Yeah, all right, let's talk about your work
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Speaker 1: for a little bit, because you have been a full
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Speaker 1: time content creator for the past four years since you've
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Speaker 1: been on the show. Yeah, you crank it out. You
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Speaker 1: do a great job with engagement. How how do you
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Speaker 1: go about when people say they don't know you were
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Speaker 1: on the show, they go, what do you do for work?
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Speaker 1: What do you say? Because it's always the most awkward
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Speaker 1: for me to be like, um, I have like if
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Speaker 1: they have no idea, what's up? I just say that
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Speaker 1: like I've been like advertising and marketing. Yeah, that's kind
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Speaker 1: of like what I'll usually say, Like if I'm a
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Speaker 1: dentist and they're like, what do you do for I
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Speaker 1: do content creation? You know, like instagraph like that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing. Even with my boyfriend. I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: like I, um yeah, I think he definitely learned to walk.
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Speaker 1: I think like he was someone doesn't post online and
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Speaker 1: then you know, like you have those kind of like
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Speaker 1: you kind of think, oh, an influencer, they're going to
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Speaker 1: be like this, like this and that, and you got
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Speaker 1: to know me and what I do. And he's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's a lot more. There's a lot more to it
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Speaker 1: than I didn't know. But yeah, it's been it's been
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Speaker 1: really great. It's been fun and like lots of great
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Speaker 1: opportunities through it, and um, I love interacting with people
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Speaker 1: online and getting to show like more me instead of
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Speaker 1: you know, on the show, like you you're kind of
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Speaker 1: you only get shown what is shown. So I feel
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Speaker 1: like I've gotten to just be myself online and people
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Speaker 1: get to know more layers. You know. I always have
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Speaker 1: a hard time describing this, so I'm wondering if you'll
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Speaker 1: do a better job because I'm always like it's a
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Speaker 1: full time job. And then people like, okay, but like
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Speaker 1: what do you do? What's like your day to day
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Speaker 1: and like every day is so different? Can you describe
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Speaker 1: your everyday? Yeah? I mean I like you said everything
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Speaker 1: is different. I have an assistant, so you know, she
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Speaker 1: comes over, we tackle emails to I talk to my agent.
15:11
Speaker 1: We kind of go over things that are on deadlines
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Speaker 1: that need to be done or contracts need to be signed.
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Speaker 1: You know, with social media nowadays, you have to constantly
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Speaker 1: make content too, Like you know, there's reels, there's TikTok,
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Speaker 1: there's so many going on, so you have to kind
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Speaker 1: of be on it. So you have to constantly produce
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Speaker 1: that content to put out there. Plus you know where
15:33
Speaker 1: a lot of the money comes from. It's like sponsor
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Speaker 1: is like sponsorships, or maybe you want to create your
15:39
Speaker 1: own thing or you have your own blog. Like there's
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Speaker 1: like I'm like kind of the process of creating my
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Speaker 1: own like site and like adding more details to just
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Speaker 1: you know Instagram or TikTok and all that. So there's
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Speaker 1: definitely a lot more stuff you see, like behind the scenes,
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Speaker 1: people maybe don't understand, you know, dealing with your taxes
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Speaker 1: and all of It's so there's a lot of administrative
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Speaker 1: work that you also have to do. Yeah, you have
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Speaker 1: to be like on top of it, like you know,
16:15
Speaker 1: you work for you basically work for yourselves. You have
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Speaker 1: to like you know, receipts and like oh yeah, invoices
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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So there's a lot more to
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Speaker 1: it than I think just snapping a photo or creating
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Speaker 1: a video, you know. Yeah, and not to mention with
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Speaker 1: the whole real sitch. Everything is kind of a production.
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Speaker 1: Influences don't get away with just like the taking a picture.
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Speaker 1: I keep picture and like selecting the best out of
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Speaker 1: like twenty take in. It's like it's like making a
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Speaker 1: little mini film, yeah that I'm sitting on my phone
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Speaker 1: and I'm editing and I'm making sure things are like
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Speaker 1: you know, like it's not you got a film and
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Speaker 1: then you got to edit it and then you got
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Speaker 1: to post it. And there's there's so many different layers
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Speaker 1: and I think I think people are slowly getting to
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Speaker 1: know it better. I think especially with there's more platforms
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Speaker 1: now not just Instagram and it's just photo taking. There's
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Speaker 1: more to it, yeah, which is nice to see. Um,
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Speaker 1: yeah it is felion and I think you described it well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but how do you get off your phone? Like I've
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Speaker 1: been struggling with this lately. Especially, I feel like I'm
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Speaker 1: constantly doing something on my phone, whether it's taking the
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Speaker 1: footage editing it in contract, in like dialogue with through
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Speaker 1: message what I need to do I need to get
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Speaker 1: done where I had to postings, and then um just
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Speaker 1: like kind of like keeping up with your followers and
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Speaker 1: just like communicating with them. So like, how do you
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Speaker 1: do you find yourself just being like, Wow, I'm looking
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Speaker 1: at a screen way too much. I've got to live
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Speaker 1: in the real world especially. I mean, I know this
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Speaker 1: sounds also like wow, first world problem, but like a
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Speaker 1: lot of times when you're going out and you're doing something,
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Speaker 1: you're like, how much do you have to document? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's I Yeah, I definitely have gotten better. I feel
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Speaker 1: like having those healthy balances. My boyfriend is definitely one
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Speaker 1: person to thank for that, because he like he's home
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Speaker 1: on the weekends. Like that's kind of quality times I
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Speaker 1: don't see him. I try my best put my phone
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Speaker 1: away and if I am snapping a photo or video here,
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Speaker 1: I won't look at it. I won't edit it until
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Speaker 1: like later in the evening or Monday, Like I just
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Speaker 1: kind of put that time outside. Or you know, if
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Speaker 1: I do a trip with my friend, I will you know,
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Speaker 1: set some time aside to do that, or I'll just
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Speaker 1: do a little like everything at the end, like when
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Speaker 1: I get home, like kind of give people a recap
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Speaker 1: in a sense, like I just if I take something,
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Speaker 1: I kind of give myself a break to put my
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Speaker 1: phone down and do something else, like make myself something
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Speaker 1: to eat, Like just because I felt like mentally it
18:39
Speaker 1: really affected me, like constantly being on my phone because
18:43
Speaker 1: it is very draining and especially if you're you know,
18:46
Speaker 1: reading comments or watching other videos, or you're comparing yourself
18:49
Speaker 1: to someone or there's it really does take a lot
18:53
Speaker 1: of you. So having those healthy balances and just allowing
18:57
Speaker 1: yourself to go outside for a fresh air off too,
19:00
Speaker 1: is so important. Yeah, I wanted to ask because it's
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Speaker 1: not just an influencer thing. It's just I feel like
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Speaker 1: all of us. Yeah, we can't disconnect from work a lot,
19:11
Speaker 1: and it's so much different now than it was in
19:13
Speaker 1: different generations, you know, where it's like they used to
19:16
Speaker 1: just you know, on the weekend they loved their computer,
19:19
Speaker 1: buy won't see an email or won't see anything until
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Speaker 1: the next day. But I feel like we're just like
19:24
Speaker 1: so easy to reach and oh yeah, it's right out
19:28
Speaker 1: your fingertips, like you're like, oh, what's happening on the
19:30
Speaker 1: other side of the world I need to know right exactly. Yeah,
19:33
Speaker 1: it's been getting a little, just a little. It's feeling
19:37
Speaker 1: it's almost being so connected, it's feeling disconnecting because it's
19:40
Speaker 1: like so many times it's like Jared and I are like, oh,
19:43
Speaker 1: we have a minute without like Dawson, Oh we should
19:46
Speaker 1: use this to like get catch up on like the
19:48
Speaker 1: phone all the things that we have to look at
19:50
Speaker 1: on the phone. All right, Well, so McKenna, I mean,
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Speaker 1: are you what's up next for you? We're going to
19:54
Speaker 1: continue the social thing and then we're gonna continue with
19:57
Speaker 1: the boyfriend. Is their marriage talk? I feel like, I like,
20:02
Speaker 1: you're still young, Yeah, so young. I like I bug
20:05
Speaker 1: him about it, like I'll just like just like kind
20:07
Speaker 1: of like see where his head's at, you know, like, um,
20:14
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know, I feel like you
20:16
Speaker 1: have to talk about it because when you're living together. Yeah,
20:19
Speaker 1: I think we're both kind of in like we don't
20:21
Speaker 1: want to waste each other's time, you know. It's like
20:24
Speaker 1: do we see this Okay? Yeah, but like are we
20:26
Speaker 1: ready for it yet? No? So I think it's just
20:29
Speaker 1: we definitely have conversations. I like, I love to bug
20:32
Speaker 1: him about it, Um, how do you bug about it? Like?
20:35
Speaker 1: How how do you bring it up? You're like, so
20:37
Speaker 1: like I love this ring. I'll just feel like it
20:40
Speaker 1: isn't really like i'd be like Oval Oval definitely, Like
20:43
Speaker 1: I'm like kind of like tease about that, or I
20:46
Speaker 1: don't know. My my my brothers both have a little boys,
20:50
Speaker 1: and so I I have nephews and we're always around them,
20:53
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, look like I kind of just
20:56
Speaker 1: like love to tease him. But I think we're just
20:59
Speaker 1: enjoying where we're at right now. Good all right, Well,
21:03
Speaker 1: good to see you in such a great place and
21:06
Speaker 1: we are excited to see what other like hashtag team
21:09
Speaker 1: no Spill it gets put out there. All right, you
21:13
Speaker 1: guys McKenna if you want to follow her the Instagram,
21:16
Speaker 1: your ins official Instagram is what's the handle? Um, it's
21:19
Speaker 1: at McKenna. So M y K, E N N A
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Speaker 1: and that's it. It's on Instagram and you just have
21:26
Speaker 1: the at McKenna. Like, how cool I do you that?
21:28
Speaker 1: You just get your at name. It's just your first name.
21:31
Speaker 1: It was hard to get, but you had to get it.
21:34
Speaker 1: You had to fight somebody for it. Yeah, there was
21:37
Speaker 1: a profile that had it, but they had like twenty
21:40
Speaker 1: followers and there was no zero post was It looked
21:43
Speaker 1: very like inactive um and I had a connection that
21:48
Speaker 1: reached out to like Facebook, I guess, and and got
21:52
Speaker 1: me the name. So amazing work, but I got it.
21:57
Speaker 1: I was like, I want this, like, yeah, it's barely
21:59
Speaker 1: it's not really digging, and yeah it's my name. It's
22:01
Speaker 1: a little different spellings and why not take it? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks McKenna so much, and as always,
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Speaker 1: we must sign off the way we sign off. Until
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