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#778 Why You Must Watch Parental Guidance Tonight! · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.
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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just answers.
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Speaker 3: Now. This is the Happy Family's Podcast on Doctor Justin Colson.
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Speaker 3: Here with my wife and mom to our six kids, Kylie.
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Speaker 3: Today's day, Kylie. Today is the day that the all
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Speaker 3: new season two of Parental Guidance hits TV screens around
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Speaker 3: the nation Channel nine, this very evening. And to kick
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Speaker 3: it all off, we thought that on The Happy Family's
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Speaker 3: Podcast today, we would do something different. We're going to
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Speaker 3: have a chat not with the stars of the show,
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Speaker 3: but with the super brain behind the show. Her name
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Speaker 3: is Melissa McLain. Mel maclain is the executive producer of
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Speaker 3: Parental Guidance. She's the one who hatched the idea in
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Speaker 3: the very first place, right when it was not even
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Speaker 3: called Parental Guidance, and she joins some of the podcast today.
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Speaker 3: Mel Welcome to the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Hello, thanks for having me. That's quite the introduction. I
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Speaker 1: can't take full credit, you know.
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Speaker 3: Mel, I think that you can. Today you're going to
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Speaker 3: We're going to bestowed upon you all credit to me.
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Speaker 3: I know that there's an amazing team behind the show.
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Speaker 3: There really is an exceptional group of people, but you're
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Speaker 3: the one who's getting the glory today and we're doing
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Speaker 3: something different. It's normally me who asks the questions, but
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Speaker 3: today something different. Kylie has going to be the interviewer
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Speaker 3: because I already know the answers to most of the questions.
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Speaker 3: I think given that I'm on the show, so I'm
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Speaker 3: going to take a back seat, which is really hard
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Speaker 3: for me on the podcast. As Kylie Willer test, now
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Speaker 3: you're laughing at me.
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Speaker 2: He says that I'm going to do the interview, but
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Speaker 2: we'll see Chris. Usually he takes over.
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Speaker 3: You watch, you watch. I'm going to be exceptional. I'm
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Speaker 3: going to be quite Kylie. The interview is yours, Mel.
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Speaker 3: Get ready for the interview of your life from Kylie Coulson,
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Speaker 3: the co host of the Happy Families podcast Mel.
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Speaker 2: Before we get into the nitty gritty of the interview,
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Speaker 2: I think that we might need to just make sure
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Speaker 2: that Justin stays grounded, even though he thinks that the
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Speaker 2: world revolves.
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Speaker 1: Around Come on, I'm trying to be quiet here. You
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Speaker 1: can't do this soon in our house.
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Speaker 2: I just see him as one of the eight miles.
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Speaker 1: That need to be fed.
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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking about the show and I'm wondering what
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Speaker 2: your criteria was for selecting a parenting expert, because clearly
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Speaker 2: it didn't have much to do with being a handyman
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Speaker 2: or even needing to know how to change the light
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Speaker 2: bulb let alone being much use to anyone during the
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Speaker 2: middle of the night. So what was your criteria? I'm
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Speaker 2: really interested to know.
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Speaker 1: Well, sometimes you just have to settle. That's not what happens.
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Speaker 1: That's not what happens. We really were looking for someone
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Speaker 1: who genuinely knew their stuff, and Justin had the letters,
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Speaker 1: so we were pretty impressed by that. And I saw
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Speaker 1: a ted talk of Justin's called raising Rebels and thought,
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Speaker 1: this is the guy. This is our parenting expert. And
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Speaker 1: fortunately everyone at nine agreed, so we had our parenting expert.
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Speaker 1: Good news is he doesn't have to do much. He
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Speaker 1: sits there and talks.
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Speaker 3: You know what, that's actually really true. The filming takes
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Speaker 3: what like five six days in studio with the families
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Speaker 3: going through so much stuff, and for the most part
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Speaker 3: Mel says Justin, just don't say anything yet, and I
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Speaker 3: just sit on the couch and listen.
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Speaker 2: That must have been so so hard.
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Speaker 3: But then as Mel, I'm sure we'll attest. It's almost like,
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Speaker 3: you know, when you're holding the dog back, the dog
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Speaker 3: wants to chase the birds, chase the bird, and you
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Speaker 3: see wait, wait, and then when you say go and
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Speaker 3: the dog just goes for it.
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Speaker 2: And it's an avalanche, wasn't it, Mel, When you finally
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Speaker 2: let leaps.
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Speaker 1: That's right. It was so great when Justin would come
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Speaker 1: in at the end of a really fantastic conversation between
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Speaker 1: the parents and just sort everybody out, give us a
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Speaker 1: bit of Justin wisdom. Justin wisdom. I love it.
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Speaker 2: Well, I know what he's like to live with. I'm
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Speaker 2: wondering what was he like on set? Was he a
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Speaker 2: bit demanding? Is it from it? Honor?
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Speaker 1: Apart from the blue emin ns, No, there were no
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Speaker 1: blo them requests. It was so great on set. Something
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Speaker 1: that I really love about working with Justin is he's
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Speaker 1: very open minded and he stays in his lane. He's
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Speaker 1: the parenting expert, and he says, Mel, you're the TV person,
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Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Or he just works
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Speaker 1: in with everybody else. And seeing Justin and Ali work
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Speaker 1: together was really really lovely to see just two fantastic
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Speaker 1: brains working to make great TV that was informative and entertaining.
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Speaker 3: And you're going to do another interview soon with Ali
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Speaker 3: towards the end of the show, and I can't wait
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Speaker 3: to hear the questions that you have for her based
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Speaker 3: on what you're doing. I mean right now with Mel,
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Speaker 3: I'm just so excited for that interview, too light.
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Speaker 2: Our parenting is about arming our children with tools to
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Speaker 2: make good.
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Speaker 1: Decisions in life when we're not able to be there.
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Speaker 1: I after school now, lummy, have a good day.
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Speaker 2: In a world filled with some less than positive reality
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Speaker 2: TV shows that families can't actually sit down and watch together,
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Speaker 2: Parental Guidance has come onto the scene and just given
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Speaker 2: us something beautiful to sit down and enjoy together. As
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Speaker 2: a family who came up with the original concept, it.
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Speaker 1: Really grew over time. It started off as a fairly
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Speaker 1: modest show looking at different parenting styles and how they
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Speaker 1: might do homework or how they might do meal time.
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Speaker 2: But more documentary style, yeah, more chat show.
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Speaker 1: Almost chat show meets documentary, that's right, So almost embedding
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Speaker 1: with a family to watch what they do for a week.
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Speaker 1: And what we realized was when I came on board,
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Speaker 1: it's not going to be very illustrative to families at home.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't compare apples with apples. What we really need
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Speaker 1: is to create some challenges, some scenarios that each family
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Speaker 1: can go out and do, and then we see their
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Speaker 1: parenting styles in that situation, a very specific situation where
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Speaker 1: we can see actionable ways that people parent.
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Speaker 2: How did you come up with the challenges? Because they
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Speaker 2: were really good entertaining, but like you said, illustrative, they
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Speaker 2: really kind of pulled parenting apart in a way that
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Speaker 2: we've never seen before.
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Speaker 1: So some of the challenges, like the family photo shoot,
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Speaker 1: and very much from personal experience, we know that that's
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Speaker 1: really really hard to take your kids and get them smiling.
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Speaker 1: You've got almost opposing desires. The kids want to run
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Speaker 1: around and play and the parents are trying to get
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Speaker 1: this great photo. You're on a time crunch. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot going on in a family photo shoit. But then
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Speaker 1: other things came from issues that we knew people are
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Speaker 1: talking about, things like digital safety online. We knew everyone
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Speaker 1: was talking about it. How can we illustrate that in
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Speaker 1: a safe yet really interesting way?
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Speaker 2: From my perspective, I'm just one, But from my perspective,
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Speaker 2: Season one was just brilliant TV and it was so
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Speaker 2: great for even just our family to sit down and
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Speaker 2: watch it together and have the conversations with our kids.
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Speaker 2: I'm wondering what the feedback was for you guys, and
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Speaker 2: how that then infiltrated into what we will now see
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Speaker 2: in season two.
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Speaker 1: Parentic Guidance Series one went down an absolute treat. My
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Speaker 1: favorite feedback was overhearing parents at the playground talking about
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Speaker 1: it and going, oh, did you see this? And what
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Speaker 1: about this?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have done it that way,
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Speaker 1: Oh I would have. Actually having conversations about parenting was
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Speaker 1: really exciting, So we knew we had the groundwork laid.
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Speaker 1: Everyone understood this idea of parenting styles and what the
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Speaker 1: show was and the fundamentals of the parenting styles. So
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Speaker 1: what we wanted to do with season two was really
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Speaker 1: take things up a notch and look at parenting in
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Speaker 1: the digital age, online safety, look at the really curly
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Speaker 1: questions like bullying and bystanders, and also take on a
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Speaker 1: few of the teenage topics. We haven't fully gone there
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Speaker 1: in every way, but explicit content on the bus on
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Speaker 1: the way to school. How are we dealing with that?
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Speaker 1: So we were a bit scared of teenagers the first
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Speaker 1: time around, but we got to go second time.
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Speaker 3: So I'm going to jump in here. I haven't said
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Speaker 3: anything for like, I don't know ten minutes. This is
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Speaker 3: a record on that family's podcast what I loved, and
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Speaker 3: me sort of tapped into it with the whole parents
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Speaker 3: talking about in the park. I've got a mate who well,
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Speaker 3: I've got a lot of bike riding mates and one
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Speaker 3: of the guys, just totally not a TV guy, was
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Speaker 3: chatting with me as we were writing, and he was like,
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Speaker 3: this TV show you're on, I've watched every part of it.
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Speaker 3: And I didn't realize it was so good until I
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Speaker 3: was at footy with the boys on the weekend and
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Speaker 3: I was standing on the sideline and a couple of
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Speaker 3: the footy dads were talking about this show like it
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Speaker 3: got grandparents and mums, dads and kids all wanting to
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Speaker 3: talk about and compare how they're doing in their families
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Speaker 3: to how they did it when they were raising their kids,
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Speaker 3: or how they're doing it right now, or how the
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Speaker 3: neighbor or the sister in law whoever is doing it
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Speaker 3: like it. It just gets people thinking about parenting and
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Speaker 3: I just I love the way it sort of crossed
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Speaker 3: all of those boundaries. Like you said, Kylie, it feels
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Speaker 3: like it's the kind of show that brings everyone together.
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Speaker 3: And I can't help myself. I've got to put a
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Speaker 3: plug in for tonight. Season two is going to light
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Speaker 3: those conversations up in ways that season one never did.
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Speaker 3: It's I mean, seasone was great, but season two just
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Speaker 3: mind blown. Anyway back to the interview, Sorry, couldn't help it.
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Speaker 2: Well, the best conversation I actually had was with a
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Speaker 2: group of strangers. I was in a creative space and
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Speaker 2: a grandma actually said, have you guys been watching this
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Speaker 2: TV show that's on Channel nine? And I decided to
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Speaker 2: actually not get involved in the conversation. I just wanted
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Speaker 2: to see it unfold. They had no idea who I was,
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Speaker 2: and they were just reveling as grandparents in what they
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Speaker 2: were seeing and that, you know, the conversations that they
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Speaker 2: were then having with their husbands and as a consequence,
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Speaker 2: the way they were trying to interact with their grandchildren.
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Speaker 2: And it was just such a delightful conversation having they
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Speaker 2: had no idea.
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Speaker 3: Did you jump in and say, how good is that
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Speaker 3: parenting expert? And he's so handsome? No, No, of course.
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Speaker 2: I totally left that. Well, obviously things are going to
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Speaker 2: air tonight's and we're all waiting, anticipating to.
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Speaker 1: See what unfolds.
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Speaker 2: I don't even know if you can tell me, but
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Speaker 2: are there some standout moments that we should be looking
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Speaker 2: out for?
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Speaker 3: Seriously, I know this is Mels interview, but I just
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Speaker 3: got to say, tonight is so so big. I'm not
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Speaker 3: going to steal your thunder. What are we in for tonight?
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Speaker 3: And why is it must watch television?
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Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely is must watch television. It's just extraordinary. What
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Speaker 1: unfolds tonight? We get to know our first lot of parents,
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Speaker 1: which are these are the focused parents, So we get
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Speaker 1: to know the gentle parents, the lighthouse parents, the our
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Speaker 1: back parents, and the honest parent. Honest parenting is not
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Speaker 1: holding back. I'm very brutally honest. There needs to bring onions. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we definitely need to bring onions to Curry. I mean
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Speaker 1: everything green pretty.
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Speaker 2: Much that's in there.
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Speaker 1: It can be confronting to the kids at times. Not
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Speaker 1: let us for a Curry made. Oh it's great and
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Speaker 1: straight away, they're all really compelling, but I'm burying the
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Speaker 1: lead here. We get then get stuck into the grist
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Speaker 1: of online strangers and being safe online.
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Speaker 2: I just got grisebumps.
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Speaker 1: It's I had no idea before we did this challenge,
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Speaker 1: and I have kids in the age bracket, so I
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Speaker 1: really should have known better. But I learned a tremendous amount.
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Speaker 1: We were very fortunate, and we couldn't have done it
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Speaker 1: without the involvement of the AFP. They have a center
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Speaker 1: to counter a Child Exploitation and Detective Superintendent Jane Crosling
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Speaker 1: became involved to help us design the challenge and also
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Speaker 1: to give the parents some actual advice on how to
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Speaker 1: deal with this really massive issue. It's actually terrifying how
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Speaker 1: big this issue is.
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Speaker 3: Well, one of the things that blows me away with
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Speaker 3: this particular challenge and this particular issue is as parents,
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Speaker 3: we tend to be so sick of talking about online
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Speaker 3: safety and screens and social media and all that stuff
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Speaker 3: that we kind of just roll our eyes and go,
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Speaker 3: yeah whatever, and we I mean, when I'm in schools
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Speaker 3: principles tell me consistently the parents don't show up for
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Speaker 3: the digital talks, and so I don't do any digital
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Speaker 3: talks because I've got a number of friends who do
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Speaker 3: digital talks and they've got to work so hard to
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Speaker 3: get the parents to show up, and it's really the
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Speaker 3: parents that are already on top of that are showing
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Speaker 3: up anyway. But when you watch what happens in episode
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Speaker 3: one tonight, and I can't say anything other than it
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Speaker 3: will rock your world. It will absolutely rock your world.
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Speaker 3: Just what life is actually like online for our kids.
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Speaker 3: This was one of the most compelling, eye opening, riveting
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Speaker 3: moments of me sitting in that studio with all those
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Speaker 3: families for the entire week. This was one of the
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Speaker 3: moments and I just I cannot emphasize enough how important
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Speaker 3: is not just for the entertainment value of watching a
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Speaker 3: great show, but if you if you care about your kids,
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Speaker 3: this is an episode you've got.
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Speaker 1: To watch, absolutely and I think people do need to
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Speaker 1: embrace this idea that you can do something and it's
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Speaker 1: never too late.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that I think most people I've
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Speaker 2: spoken to were nervous about was season one, was the
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Speaker 2: judgment that would take place between and this competitive notion
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Speaker 2: around parenting. Obviously, Season one I think a laid to
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Speaker 2: those fears for everybody. It was just so beautifully done,
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Speaker 2: and I want to use the word beautifully. It was
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Speaker 2: so beautifully done, because I feel like everybody was able
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Speaker 2: to come away filling whole from the experience, regardless of
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Speaker 2: what their parenting style was. How did you manage that
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Speaker 2: in the studio.
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Speaker 1: It's really tricky to be choosing a best parenting style
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Speaker 1: without things getting personal and competitive. Absolutely, what we tried
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Speaker 1: to do was make that level an added layer. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't the main game. The main game is to learn
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Speaker 1: from each other and talk about these issues. Any best
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Speaker 1: parenting style layer has to just come on top of
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Speaker 1: that as a little bit of a icing on the cake.
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Speaker 1: It's not what it's really all about. And even the
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Speaker 1: way the thank you is phrase, it's thank you for
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Speaker 1: sharing your best parenting style. It's not you're the winner.
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Speaker 1: Here's a prize and a badge. There's no We never
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Speaker 1: talk about winners. We just talk about who, subjectively in
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Speaker 1: your opinion, has the best parenting style with these very
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Speaker 1: specific criteria. So I think by doing that we try
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Speaker 1: at least to make it as non competitive and everybody
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Speaker 1: grows out of it as possible. So it really is
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Speaker 1: a thank you and a pat on the back to
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Speaker 1: who is showing us and the most and who we're
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Speaker 1: learning from the most.
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Speaker 2: Well, I have to admit that there is I don't
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Speaker 2: think you could pay me enough money to be one
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Speaker 2: of those families sitting in that room so much courage
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Speaker 2: to actually take the leap and say I want to learn,
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Speaker 2: and I want to learn in a public forum, because
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Speaker 2: that's what you're doing. You're essentially recognizing that there's things
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Speaker 2: that you can learn from others as a result of
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Speaker 2: your opportunity to be there. But you're also in the
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Speaker 2: spotlight and everyone gets to see your fobles, your weaknesses
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Speaker 2: as well as your strengths. But they're all there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the generosity of each of those parents, and they
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Speaker 1: are all genuinely great parents. They wouldn't be there if
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Speaker 1: they weren't. We wouldn't put bad parents on TV. That
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Speaker 1: would be unfair. So they're all great parents, and there's
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Speaker 1: something to learn from every one of them.
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Speaker 3: And they're not only they're brave, but they're willing to
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Speaker 3: have completely direct and sometimes really hard conversations. But like
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Speaker 3: you said, Mel, there's this openness, there's this generosity, there's
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Speaker 3: this Okay, well I'm on the show, so hit me
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Speaker 3: with it, because I'm going to learn and grow with
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Speaker 3: this feedback. Even if I don't like the feedback, Like
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Speaker 3: just I think it's extraordinary that they do it. And
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Speaker 3: you know the other thing that I love, Ali and
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Speaker 3: I aren't choosing the winners. I really appreciate that they're
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Speaker 3: deciding and I know we're not using the word winner
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Speaker 3: at all really, but they're deciding who's going to get
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Speaker 3: the goods at the end. They're deciding who they're going
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Speaker 3: to elevate, who they're going to celebrate, who they're going
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Speaker 3: to hold up and say, we really appreciate you and
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Speaker 3: the way you're raising your kids.
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Speaker 2: Well, this is really a one of a kind TV
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Speaker 2: show because in every other reality TV show there is
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Speaker 2: a specific winner and it's you know, elimination rounds. Whereas
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Speaker 2: what Parental Guidance is basically saying is we want to
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Speaker 2: elevate you, want to see more of what you have
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Speaker 2: to offer. We want to learn from what you're doing
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Speaker 2: as a parent to kind of, I guess better supplement
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Speaker 2: what we're doing. I love that about parental Guidance.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I knew we never wanted to eliminate. I said,
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Speaker 1: that is not an option. We can't eliminate people. They
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Speaker 1: don't learn anything if they're not eliminated, you're taking out.
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Speaker 1: I think of it as nippers, you know what, nippers,
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Speaker 1: but they've got to run to catch the flag. And
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Speaker 1: it's always the slowest kid that gets out. It's like
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Speaker 1: that's kids never getting faster because they always go out
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Speaker 1: in the first round. So we can't eliminate. We're just
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Speaker 1: leaving behind if we eliminate. So we have to keep
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Speaker 1: everybody together. And it's a lot more positive that way.
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Speaker 1: I love it.
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Speaker 2: In spite of the positivity, where there's some moments that
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Speaker 2: were pretty tense that you had to kind of navigate.
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Speaker 1: Oh, so many moments. There's enough going on without eliminating people.
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Speaker 1: We have the challenge that you'll see tonight is actually breathtaking,
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Speaker 1: the one about the online strange where we have the AFP.
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Speaker 1: As soon as the AFP enter the room, everybody sits
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Speaker 1: up straight. Is are they here for my parking fines?
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Speaker 1: Are they here because they saw me on my mobile
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Speaker 1: phone driving? It's really serious, serious stuff. So and the
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Speaker 1: bullying bystander challenge is another one where just go, wow,
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Speaker 1: what do we need to teach our kids so that
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Speaker 1: we can stop this bullying problem? So we don't bully
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Speaker 1: the kids don't worry. It's very much a bystander challenge.
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Speaker 1: There are lots of moments that are very tense, but
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Speaker 1: we're always learning from.
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Speaker 2: As we sat down with the kids last season and
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Speaker 2: watched it, what was really cute was going, oh, mom
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Speaker 2: and dad are a bit of them, and oh, they're
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Speaker 2: also a bit of them, and yeah, you're not really
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Speaker 2: any one parenting style. I mean, as the executive producer,
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Speaker 2: what is it that you're hoping parents are going to
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Speaker 2: walk away with after watching season two?
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Speaker 1: I hope that parents take away the idea that they
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Speaker 1: need to be autonomy supportive. I think in different ways.
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Speaker 1: That's very justin speak, but people need to let kids
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Speaker 1: make up their own mind about stuff. Don't make them
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Speaker 1: wear jumpers if it's not if they don't feel cold,
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Speaker 1: don't worry about it like they'll figure it out. Let
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Speaker 1: them have safe, natural consequences, Let them have real choices
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Speaker 1: over their lives, because that comes up over and over again.
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Speaker 1: When kids feel like they can make their own choices
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Speaker 1: and their parents are supportive of that, the relationship is better,
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Speaker 1: which means they're more likely to be doing what you
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Speaker 1: want them to do anyway, and they're happier. So just
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Speaker 1: do that. Is that the right answer, Justin? Is that
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Speaker 1: the takeaway for the parents so funny.
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Speaker 3: Just before we wrap the podcast, Kylie, for somebody who
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Speaker 3: doesn't like doing interviews, mel your feedback.
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Speaker 1: Well, as a professional in the television industry, Kylie, I
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Speaker 1: can advise you that your voice is really lovely, really warm.
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Speaker 1: You're engaged in question asking this and you're curious, which
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Speaker 1: is all you really need to be a great interviewer.
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Speaker 1: So I think you could do this a little more often.
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Speaker 2: You're very kind, Malt.
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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll have missus Happy Families joining me on some
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Speaker 3: interviews moving forward. Your questions, Kylie, if I can throw
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Speaker 3: this in there as well, your questions were great, hosta,
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Speaker 3: thank you great, great conversation.
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Speaker 1: Really well, thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: The Happy Families Podcast is produced by Justin Roland from
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Speaker 3: Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is our executive producer. Hey, thanks
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Speaker 3: for listening. I hope you're loving it. We'd love to
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Speaker 3: feed that podcasts at happy families dot com dot au
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Speaker 3: and we'll see you tomorrow on the Happy Families Podcast.