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"Sweethearts & Heroes has completely changed the narrative of my story." - Haley Sutphen · Aired Out

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  Speaker 1: so much happening in our community. I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: where to begin. I have glanced at the world. I've
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  Speaker 1: had a look at it, and I see everything that's happening.
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  Speaker 1: It is amazing. Just a quick programming note here June fourth,
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  Speaker 1: which is is that really truly? A week from today,
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  Speaker 1: Jen Guy, the director of Human Skills and Student Engagement,
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  Speaker 1: is going to be my guest here on the Airdow
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  Speaker 1: podcast from Sweethearts and Heroes and an amazing lady who's
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  Speaker 1: done amazing things. About two thousand elementary school students and
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  Speaker 1: about one hundred high school students from six North Country
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  Speaker 1: schools have participated in the Community Days and are still
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  Speaker 1: involved with this in the month of May and coming
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  Speaker 1: up in June with Sweethearts and Heroes. These high schoolers
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  Speaker 1: in these school districts are absolute lutely smashing barriers and
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  Speaker 1: doing remarkable, remarkable things with the help, yes of their
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  Speaker 1: teachers and the administrators at their schools, and of course
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  Speaker 1: with the great help of Sweethearts and Heroes. But they're
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  Speaker 1: just doing incredible, incredible things. This is basically obstacle courses
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  Speaker 1: and team challenges that are similar to the Spartan supported
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  Speaker 1: races that these high school students completed at Sweethearts and Heroes.
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  Speaker 1: The first couple of days of that youth Leadership summit
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  Speaker 1: last September, and with me is Haley Septon on the line.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Haley, how are you hi?
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm great. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: So glad to have you?
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  Speaker 1: You know, man, it's like Rick and Tom loudon all
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  Speaker 1: of these guys. I have been singing your praises for
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  Speaker 1: weeks now. I've been hearing about you, and I only
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  Speaker 1: hope to meet you someday. I hope that will happen us.
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  Speaker 1: So you're a senior at Taekwonder Roga.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that is correct, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So you're are you allowed to I'm assuming you're allowed
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  Speaker 1: to to break free from from your studies and hop
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  Speaker 1: on the air.
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  Speaker 2: With us here, are you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course, it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about you. You're you're a senior.
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  Speaker 1: You're graduating very soon.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, less than a month actually.
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  Speaker 1: And you're headed where I'm headed.
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  Speaker 4: To Vanderbilt University in the fall. I'll be studying biomedical engineering.
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  Speaker 1: Biomedical engineering at Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that is correct.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, smart kid. Thank you, Young lady, I should say,
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  Speaker 1: young lady, how old are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm eighteen, eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Years old and you're going to be doing this. This
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  Speaker 1: is amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty excited. It's still it doesn't feel real.
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  Speaker 2: And you're at the top of your class right now, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I am.
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  Speaker 4: I actually found that out when Loudon and Abby were
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  Speaker 4: at my school the other day doing another type of
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  Speaker 4: interview vale. Yes, wow, I am.
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  Speaker 2: Good for you.
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  Speaker 1: You tell us about how you got involved with sweethearts
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  Speaker 1: and heroes and how this is changed your life. I
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  Speaker 1: know that you're already changing the lives of so many kids,
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  Speaker 1: But how what's your story? How did you discover this?
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  Speaker 1: How did you get involved?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? So my story it's pretty complex. Honestly.
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  Speaker 4: I started with Sweearts and Heroes in tenth grade. At
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  Speaker 4: that point in my life, I wasn't necessarily thriving in
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  Speaker 4: the academic classroom, one could say. So ninth grade, I
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  Speaker 4: was pretty focused on school. Actually so focused that I
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  Speaker 4: kind of went through a period of burnout. And that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of where I was, you know, all throughout my
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  Speaker 4: sophomore year. It was just not really caring about school
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  Speaker 4: too much, not really caring about the sports that I
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  Speaker 4: was in, just you know, not really caring about too
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  Speaker 4: many things going on.
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  Speaker 3: In my life. I was. I was only struggling. I was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a young kid.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't really know who I was yet, and a
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  Speaker 4: lot of teenagers faced that struggle, but I was facing
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  Speaker 4: it pretty hard.
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  Speaker 3: So I was, you know, sophomore, didn't really know who I.
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  Speaker 4: Was, struggling to stay motivated in school and with all
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  Speaker 4: my activities that I was involved in. And then Tom
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  Speaker 4: and Rick came to my school in December of my
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  Speaker 4: sophomore year and gave a presentation. It was the first
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  Speaker 4: time I'd ever seen anything about them. I believe i'd
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  Speaker 4: maybe seen them on on social media, but I didn't
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  Speaker 4: really know who they were, and you know, Tom spoke
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  Speaker 4: and I remember listening to him sitting in the auditorium
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  Speaker 4: and thinking to myself, Okay, this guy, he seems to
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  Speaker 4: know he's talking about a little bit. And then Rick
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  Speaker 4: came came in. Rick walked in and he gave a presentation,
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  Speaker 4: and I remember just that moment really has been a
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  Speaker 4: changing point or a pivoting point for me in my life.
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  Speaker 4: Listening to Rick speak about his experiences and just listening
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  Speaker 4: to the ways that he had to persevere through all
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  Speaker 4: the things that had happened to him.
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  Speaker 3: And you know how his whole his whole memo, his whole.
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  Speaker 4: Message is you gotta you gotta have hope in order
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  Speaker 4: to get through a lot of these difficult things in
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  Speaker 4: your life. And you know, I said this to to
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  Speaker 4: loud in the other day. I said, it's incredibly hard
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  Speaker 4: to accept your own defeat after hearing Rick's story, And really,
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  Speaker 4: that is what happened to me. I was kind of
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  Speaker 4: giving up on myself. I wasn't motivated anymore in school.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't feel like I had anything going for me
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  Speaker 4: until I listened to Brick speak on that day. And
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  Speaker 4: from that moment forward, I kind of I knew that
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  Speaker 4: this was something that I wanted to be involved in.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that remarkable? So you're you're really paying attention here
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  Speaker 1: of what's being said and letting this into your not
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  Speaker 1: only your ears, but also your your soul. You're really
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  Speaker 1: really dialed in here at at a young age. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's so cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely was, especially during that presentation. I've always been
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  Speaker 4: someone who pays attention to things. I'm very meticulous with
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  Speaker 4: my approach to life, especially school, at least most.
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  Speaker 3: Of the time.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like to let things slide or go unnoticed.
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  Speaker 4: So I definitely I was. I was tuned into every
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  Speaker 4: word that both of them spoke on that day.
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  Speaker 1: Were you so you were struggling a little bit in
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  Speaker 1: your life at this time?
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  Speaker 3: Oh definitely.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I had a lot of things going on, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of mental health problems. To be completely honest. Mental
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  Speaker 4: health was definitely a struggle for me in tenth grade,
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  Speaker 4: and I was kind of, you know, trying to find
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  Speaker 4: ways to deal with it, and the ways that I
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  Speaker 4: was dealing with it weren't very healthy mentally or physically,
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  Speaker 4: you know, kind of self medicating doing things like that.
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  Speaker 3: I just I wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't doing well, and I didn't have a lot
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  Speaker 4: of good relationships surrounding me with my parents, with my friends,
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  Speaker 4: really with anyone. I didn't have a good relationship with myself,
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  Speaker 4: so that affected all the people around me. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'd always my entire life. I have two parents who
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  Speaker 4: are teachers. My entire life had always been super super
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  Speaker 4: focused on school. And then in tenth grade, I just
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  Speaker 4: I burnt out. I didn't care anymore. I didn't see
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  Speaker 4: the point in my academics anymore, because I really I
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  Speaker 4: didn't see the point in anything at that point in
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  Speaker 4: my life.
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  Speaker 1: So if you don't mind my asking, yeah, of course, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I heard you say self medicating, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just wondering what that if you can shed some more
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  Speaker 1: light on that, what what that looked like.
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  Speaker 2: What that was?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, I like to stay vague at first,
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  Speaker 4: just to not go to into detail.
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  Speaker 3: But really I was just I.
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  Speaker 4: Was smoking a lot of we doing a lot of
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  Speaker 4: things like that. You know, typical teenager going out and
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  Speaker 4: partying on the weekends, except it wasn't on the weekends.
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  Speaker 4: It was seven days a week, which I mean isn't
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  Speaker 4: really healthy. For anyone, But it wasn't good for me
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  Speaker 4: as a as a high.
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  Speaker 3: School kid to be doing that all the time.
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  Speaker 4: It was an outlet for me. It was the only
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  Speaker 4: way that I knew how to deal with everything that
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  Speaker 4: was going on in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel that that meeting the guys from
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  Speaker 1: Sweethearts and Heroes that your school, bringing them into your
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  Speaker 1: school was definitely a pivotal moment for you? Is this
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  Speaker 1: something that really we already know it had an impact
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  Speaker 1: on you, but it can have an impact on someone
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  Speaker 1: and and and that's great, but they can still go
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  Speaker 1: on and slip back. Was this was this a turning
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  Speaker 1: point for for you? Meeting these guys and hearing their
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  Speaker 1: their message.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly believe that I would not be maybe even graduating
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  Speaker 4: high school if that, If that presentation never happened, I
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  Speaker 4: was so just shut, shut away and turned away from everything.
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  Speaker 4: It definitely it was a turning point. It affected so
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  Speaker 4: many things for me later on down the road. Not immediately,
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  Speaker 4: but it kind of when it came in and spoke,
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  Speaker 4: it just it planted a seed of you know, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: Rick and Rick and Tom, they they got through all
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  Speaker 4: of these these hard things in their life, especially Rick,
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  Speaker 4: and it kind of just planted the seed like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if he can do that, so can I. And from
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  Speaker 4: that moment forward, I think I I was kind of
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  Speaker 4: disappointed with myself prior to them coming in. I was like, okay, Haley,
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  Speaker 4: like why are you doing this? Why are you smoking
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  Speaker 4: so much weed.
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  Speaker 3: All the time?
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  Speaker 4: Why are you not unlocking your your full potential anymore?
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  Speaker 4: Like what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: So it was a wake up call.
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  Speaker 4: For sure, and meeting them and speaking with them, they're
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  Speaker 4: good people and you can just tell when you talk
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  Speaker 4: to them and when you meet them, and everybody in
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  Speaker 4: my school kind of understood that. Collectively. We wanted them
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  Speaker 4: to come back immediately.
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  Speaker 2: And you're in what grade at this point, ninth grade?
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  Speaker 2: Tenth grade?
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  Speaker 3: This was tenth grade.
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  Speaker 4: So they came to my school tenth grade, and tenth
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  Speaker 4: grade was really that low period that you.
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  Speaker 1: Know as a sophomore though. It's like, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: have conversations when you're around other adults, but you also
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  Speaker 1: have a whole separate kind of a conversation when you're
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  Speaker 1: around your peers, which I'm guessing you know, uh, tenth grade,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of goofing around.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of goofing around.
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  Speaker 1: What were you saying to your peers about this, for
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  Speaker 1: lack of a better term, this transformation that you were
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  Speaker 1: going through as a result of Sweethearts and Heroes. What
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  Speaker 1: were you saying to your your peers about these guys
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  Speaker 1: and about how this was impacting you.
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  Speaker 4: In regards to the transformation itself. Honestly, I think I
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  Speaker 4: didn't really have to say anything.
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  Speaker 3: People could just see it. They could see the the.
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  Speaker 4: Effects of their their impact in my life. As for
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  Speaker 4: what I was saying to my friends and just you know,
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  Speaker 4: the people around me.
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  Speaker 3: Right in the beginning, it was, you know, things were
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  Speaker 3: a little.
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  Speaker 4: Blurry. We didn't we didn't really know exactly what was
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  Speaker 4: gonna happen with Sweet Heroes. We the first program we
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  Speaker 4: did with them was actually the Braves program, and I
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  Speaker 4: was involved with that, But that didn't really happen until
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  Speaker 4: I believe it was later on in my sophomore year
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  Speaker 4: or the beginning of my junior year. So it took
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  Speaker 4: time for things to kind of come together.
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  Speaker 3: But I remember just.
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  Speaker 4: The the the talk around the school of that presentation.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't really die down ever, we'd go to lunch,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, it kind of get brought up at
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  Speaker 4: least once, I don't want to say every day, but
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  Speaker 4: at least every couple of days, like oh yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: remember this or remember what he said referencing Rick or
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  Speaker 4: Tom or whatever. And you know, a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: kids in my school were also pretty fascinated with Tom's
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  Speaker 4: past of you know, the fighting, and they just they
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  Speaker 4: idolized him, and they idolized Rick for everything that he
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  Speaker 4: had done too.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you imagine being in a high
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  Speaker 1: school without sweethearts and heroes?
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  Speaker 4: No, I honestly, I think I probably would have dropped
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  Speaker 4: out at some point, if I'm being completely honest, And
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  Speaker 4: I know that sounds really extreme, but I was very
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  Speaker 4: extreme at that point in my life, and.
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  Speaker 3: I really truthfully just did not care. I was fed
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  Speaker 3: up without sweethearts and heroes.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that ever would have changed. Maybe I
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  Speaker 4: would have graduated high school, maybe not. I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 4: gone on to do anything worthwhile. I know that for
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  Speaker 4: a fact.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, what a test. You know? Tom is?
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  Speaker 1: Tom is as you well know, he is a guy
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  Speaker 1: that has a brain that never shuts off. He's always
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  Speaker 1: he goes from zero to sixty and half a second.
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  Speaker 1: He has all these acronyms brave and hope and.
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  Speaker 2: Others.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many different programs and so many different philosophies
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  Speaker 1: that he's incorporating with sweethearts and heroes? Is this overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: at any point to you?
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  Speaker 4: It's actually it's funny that you bring that up, because
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  Speaker 4: I remember this past year. I think it was it
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  Speaker 4: might have been Christmas Day, honestly, or maybe it was
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  Speaker 4: New Year's. It was one of those two. He sent
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  Speaker 4: me a text about something. I don't remember exactly what
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  Speaker 4: it was, but I remember thinking to myself, you know,
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  Speaker 4: this guy, he's still he's still working, he's still going,
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  Speaker 4: and I just I notice that because I find myself
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  Speaker 4: doing that a lot too.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very passionate about the things that I do.
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  Speaker 4: I enjoy the things I do at this point in
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  Speaker 4: my life, whether it be you know, math or science,
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  Speaker 4: whatever it is, but it kind of consumes the way
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  Speaker 4: that I operate because it's I do what I love
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  Speaker 4: and Tom, I believe, is the same exact way he's
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  Speaker 4: texting me on Christmas, New Year's whatever, because his mind
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  Speaker 4: has it never shuts off like you just said, and
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  Speaker 4: I just I respect that. You know, somebody who really
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  Speaker 4: is passionate about the work that they do. It's it's
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  Speaker 4: not a job to him all. Maybe sometimes I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: it gets overwhelming with emails and meetings, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: the work itself is something that he is passionate about
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  Speaker 4: and something that he wants to do. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: not everybody. He operates that way now. Everybody finds the
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  Speaker 4: thing that they love to do. So I think I
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  Speaker 4: respect it and it makes me want to work with
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  Speaker 4: him even more.
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  Speaker 1: What I was going to ask you about that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Tom sent me a text saying, before you have Haley on,
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  Speaker 1: we gotta talk this. This This lady is the real deal.
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  Speaker 1: She really gets it. She really embraces everything that we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to accomplish with. Sweethearts and Heroes? Are you You're
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  Speaker 1: you're set and sail here soon for for Vanderbilt. Are
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  Speaker 1: you going to be staying in touch with Tom and
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  Speaker 1: Sweethearts and Heroes?
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  Speaker 2: Are you?
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  Speaker 1: What are you going to be doing? And I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear what you've been doing at school? You're you're
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  Speaker 1: you're doing a huge presentations on on bullying.
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  Speaker 2: Am I right?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? I am so yep.
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  Speaker 4: So in terms of what I'm gonna be doing, I
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  Speaker 4: honestly I don't know. And I was thinking about that
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  Speaker 4: about five minutes before I called in.
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  Speaker 3: It's something that I want to stay involved in, and
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  Speaker 3: I know that for a fact.
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  Speaker 4: I am going to be living in Nashville, Tennessee, which
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  Speaker 4: is about fifteen hours away. So the logistics of that,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure exactly how it's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I.
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  Speaker 4: Really I think as a person, I am aligned with
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  Speaker 4: everything that SweeTarts and heroes is striving to accomplish and
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  Speaker 4: everything that they want to do.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: And I know that, and it makes me.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Very intrigued as to the possibilities and the opportunities that
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: could come from that sort of alignment. Obviously, I want
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: to go to college get my degree in engineering and
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: math and science because that's what I love, That's where I.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: What my interests are. To my core.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Tom and I talked about doing some sort of calls
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: or you know, some sort of online presence, I guess
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: because I am going to be so far away, but
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I'm interested to see what exactly will happen with that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I hope we can figure something out.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: What have you been doing for the last year or
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: so with these yarns at your school. Uh, what do
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you what are you saying to them about? How are
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you representing sweethearts and heroes? And what are you saying
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to them about bullying?
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I mean.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: We've been doing We've been crafting our STEP program at
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: our school, which I'm sure you've heard about. Step is
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: a program where you can get a certification to present,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: you know, presentations on on to kindergarteners.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: All the way up to second graders.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: And we spent a while figuring out what our presentations
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: were going to be and practicing them, running through them.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: We actually we did our first STEP presentations on my birthday,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: I believe.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awesome. It was a lot of fun.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: And we follow the general script of the Sweet arson Heroes,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: the one that they provide, but we kind of we
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: give it our own spinoff. You know, it's not a
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: copy and paste exactly what Tom and Rick do. It's
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: our own story, which I find very interesting. And I've
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: seen so many different kids in my school just have
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: so much fun figuring out what they want their little
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: hook to be for their presentation. And you know, the
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: elementary school kids.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: They love it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: They listen to every word that we say and they
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think the information definitely gets into their
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: heads because we keep it simple. You know, we reiterate
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: the same things over and over to make sure that
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: they grasp onto it. I mean my hook I dressed
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: up as a football player, and my opening scene, I guess,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: was me running in to.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: The they call it the fish bowl.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: It's like an auditorium, but I was running into this
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: room with you know, rock music, playing with a football
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: helmet on and holding a football, trying to duke out
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: these kids, or doing a spin move, running all around them,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: and they thought it was awesome, and they got super excited,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: super hyped up. They thought it was fun. And doing
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: that getting them excited, getting them to think that what
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I'm about to do is fun, it makes them listen
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: a little bit more.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: It helps them to listen a little bit more.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: So, and you know, you have there's a ton of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: responsibility with something like this, and listen, I'll tell you.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And not to sound like an old man here, but
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: this stuff was out of the question when I was
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: your age, these conversations were not happening. Teachers were there
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: to teach and students were either bullied or they weren't,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and they took care of things on the playground or
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: they didn't.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: But there weren't.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Conversations about this, and there most certainly wasn't conversations that
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: were trickling down from other students, especially ones that were
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a few years older than us.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: This was just not happening at all.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's certainly been a change. And the change
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: started when I was in elementary school. There was a
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: bunch of presentations on bullying and respect and responsibility, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: don't call people names, don't hit people whatever.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: None of it really stuck.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, we would have a different person come into
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: our school every single year, like when I was from
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: the ages of first grade to sixth grade. And I
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: think our school similar to a lot of schools around us,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: we've been kind of looking for something that would be
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: effective and fun and engaging, but I.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Guess most importantly effective. We wanted something that would work.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: And I think that Sweearts and Heroes and all of
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: their programs that they have, the Brace program, the Step program,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: and soon the Hope program, I think is what it's
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: going to be called, Yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Which is an acronym for hold on possibilities exist.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: But all these programs, they're effective, they're fun. Kids want
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: to do them, they want to come to school to
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: do it. I've talked to a bunch of even high
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: school kids that are like, oh, we have braves, Okay,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I'll come to school today.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: It's it has that sort of effect, and it has
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: that sort of effect on the elementary school kids as well.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I've established quite a few relationships with kids in first grade,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: second grade. You know, it's it's how it's how society works.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Young kids idolize older kids.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Yes we could.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: We could say anything and they would they would listen
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: to it with with.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: No filter or no. You know, they listen to every
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: word that we say.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: So we've we've certainly, I guess not used that to
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: our advantage, but we've utilized that because you know, like
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: I said, the kids are going to listen to older
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: kids better than they would listen to their teacher or
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: their parent a lot of the time.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: What was this youth leadership summit like for you last September.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: The one with all of the older kids.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, that that that you were part of.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's that's a great question.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: You know, I really I didn't know what to expect
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: going into that summit, into that Spartan race. It was
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: a I believe, three day, two day ordeal three three.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: When I tell you, you know, my guidance counselor words it
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: this way. She wishes that she could take all of
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: the emotion and all of the you know, the vibe
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: that the atmospheric five of those three days, and all
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: of that, all of that feeling, and put it into
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: a bottle and you know, and pour it out on
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: days where bad things happen, where kids aren't feeling good.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: She was just she could harness that energy and use
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: it later on to offset bad things, I guess, or
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: bad days that would happen in.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Our school or in our school environment.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I've never seen so many kids from so many different
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: backgrounds and schools, with so many different interests and hobbies
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: come together, face to face, look at each other in
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: the eye, not worry about who was texting them or
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: you know, their snapchat notifications, whatever it may be.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: You didn't have any phones.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: We didn't have any phones, And there are so many
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: people that were very hesitant to that idea at first,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: you know, like Oh no, I'm gonna sneak my phone.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: But on day one, we all we played some game
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: outside and there was not a single phone in sight,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: and that was It was awesome. It was a huge
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: relief to just to look people in the eye and
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: meet them and ask them.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: You know, what's your name, where are you from, what
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: are your hobbies? Want to go do this?
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: There was no there was no distraction, I guess like
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: a phone would be.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: You're gonna you're going to miss this a little bit
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: when you head off to Nashville.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, definitely.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: But you know, Tom has given you some remarkable life
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: skills and tools that you're going to be able to
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: utilize in your life.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Yes that I think about that a lot.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, far outside of the classroom.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: You can be.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Valedictorian till the cows come home. But in the end,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: having a mindset like this and trudging forward through life
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: having this knowledge and this ability to be able to
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: see things through a different lens is really really important.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: And God bless Tom and Louden, and Rick and Brian
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and Pat and the rest of the team over at
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Sweethearts and Heroes for having such a profound impact on
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: just one person, and that would be you. And like
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like these guys say, and I incorporate this
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: into my podcast too, if we could just change or
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: help one person, that's all we're looking to do. And
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: they've they certainly have done that with you, Haley.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: They certainly have.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: I am so incredibly grateful for everything that they have done,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: and it was so unexpected. I mean, looking back now,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I see all of the things that they've done for
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: me and all the ways they've affected not only me,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: but my entire school.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is crazy.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: And like you said, if you can help one person,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: that's that's what you have to start with.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: That's what you need to focus on, because when.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: You help one person, that that person can go on
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: to help others.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: And that those are.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: The the things I have in my toolbox. I guess
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: now as I go forward, there's a there's a handbook,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: a step by step process on how to solve most
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: of the math problems out there. You know, you can
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: study scientific facts and learn anything you could possibly want
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: about a lot of things in the academic world.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: But I knew that, and I was good at that,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: but I didn't know how.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: To necessarily do life, and so many teenagers all across
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: the country they don't know how to.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: How are you supposed to?
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: You know, it's your first time living, it's your first
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: time experiencing all of these things, and especially as a
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: young kid, not knowing who you are and trying to,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I guess, figure out the distinction between who you are
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: and who you want to be. I really struggle with that,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: and all the ways that swe Arts and Heroes help
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: me figure that out. I believe it's really it set
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: me up for success in the future. There's no doubt
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: in my mind. I've been through a lot of hard things,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: and because of SweeTarts and Heroes, I've learned how to
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: handle those hard things. Life isn't always going to be easy,
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: and I know that, and I understand that pretty well.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: But you know, I personally, I believe you know, I've
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: hit rock bottom.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: A lot of people have.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: I think it's only up from here, and not necessarily
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: in a linear way. But I'm I think I'm set
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: up pretty well.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I think you are too, Haley. I hope listen, it
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: would be great to meet you at some point someday.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know how, I don't know where probably with
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Tom will figure that out. But thank you ever so
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: much for hopping on the air with me this morning.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Yes, of course, thank you for having me. I'd love
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: to meet you as well. I think that'd be pretty cool.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: And you know, as a senior, I don't have too much.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Going on anymore.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's just beginning.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: And you know, I would be willing to wager that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: that old king Tom's got a lot misty in the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: eyes going this morning, listen, listening to you. He's received
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: many compliments from many adults over the years, and has
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: experienced compliments in seeing young children and the effects that
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Sweethearts and Harris has had on them. But to hear
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: a young woman like you give this kind of testimony
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: is pretty powerful stuff. I think you just made his day.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I hope I did.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: One of my long term goals is to be able
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: to give it back to him in some way, shape
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: or form. I don't know what it will look like,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: but I know when.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I want something, I get it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: I am a pretty determined person overall, so I hope
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: to be able to do that for him one day.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you Harley so much. You made my day too.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: You're very welcome.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Boy.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Wow, what a what a testimony right there from an
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: eighteen year old senior at Taekwonder Roga High School. Amazing, amazing, Wow.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: You know, listen, in the short time that I have
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: known Tom and the gang at Sweethearts and Heroes, in
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that short time, I have realized more than ever that
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I have and I've done a lot of interviews, and
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I've been connected with a lot of wonderful organizations and
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: people over the years. But man, it's like I am
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: so blessed that Sweethearts and Heroes came to my daughter's
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: school and that I have been introduced to these guys.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Our Wednesday Morning partnership is something that I am so
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: excited about and I look forward to so much every week,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm already looking forward to next Wednesdays. Wednesday mornings.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: This is the day of the week when the world
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: newspaper comes out and Deb Phillips is with us this morning. Deb,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning, Jad.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: How are you this morning?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm well, Today's the big day. What's in
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the world? What can we expect?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Our featured advertiser this week is mattress Land and Barry. Also,
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: we have the this week is the gunner Brook Kids
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Fishing Derby on Saturday. Wow, all good, good stuff.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I forgot all about that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: See, this is what you guys, this is why you
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: guys do to remind us of these amazing events. That's
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that's been around for a billion year's depth.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Well I'm pretty close to a billion. I think this
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: is their ninety sixth annual gunner Brook Kids Fishing Derby.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Amazing. Yeah, what else?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: What else can we find in the world today?
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: Well, we have lots of good specials. We have the
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Pump and Pantry in Williamstown, we have the Granite City
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Market in Berry, all good grocery specials, just more so
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: much stuff.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: And folks want to know. This is being delivered to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: homes now.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Homes in the five six oh two. Still still working
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: on the the five six four to one, so hopefully
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: soon we'll be able to mail that in the Berry
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: area too.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: And always easy to advertise. It's such a great paper
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: to thumb through. But what's the easiest way to advertise?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Just pick up the phone and give you guys a call,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: or send you an email.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: That's perfect, say that or send us an email either way,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: that's either that's perfect to do.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I always look forward to it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I know Chris will be here anytime now, walking through
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the front door of the studio with my world paper,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and I just look forward to unplugging for ten minutes
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: maybe if I can, today and looking through the world
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: love the paper.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: Deb sounds good, Jadi, thanks so much.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, in a big hello to Gary over there this
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: morning from all of us. We'll do all right, Thank you.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Deb. Listen.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I hope whoever you are, wherever you are, whatever town
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: you're living in, I hope that you're getting outside today
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and you're getting some fresh air, and you're taking in
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit of vitamin D and some sunshine and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: some fresh air. Yesterday was amazing to be outside, to
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: sit there with my crocs on and watch Lily play
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: softball in a softball game, with the sun on my face,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: my sunglasses actually over my eyes. Was amazing to be
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: able to need sunglasses. It was incredible. But it can
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: be another beautiful day today and then we're right back
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: to it. Rain, cold clouds the whole nine yards with
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm hearing is a nor Easter, the second nor Easter,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: and there's a two percent odd of a northeaster hitting
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: New England this time of year, two percent, and we
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: just had one.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Now we're gonna have our second one this weekend.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Upper level disturbance and barometric boundaries, and I don't care
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: what they call it. We call it clouds, cold and
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: rain here in New England and we're getting really sick
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of it, mother Nature. If you're listening this morning to
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the aired out podcast, sitting right next to me, one
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: of the best looking dudes in one of my best
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: friends of all time, Chris Autrey, Good morning, buddy.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I've never had that kind of introduction before, and I'm
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: just glad this is recorded so I can play that
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: over and over again. No one's ever called me the
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: best looking dude in the world. Well look at you,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: but thank you man. And listen, this is vacation dressed Chris,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Like you're like we switched, Like you're you're dressed up
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: like you're going to a business meeting or something today
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: and I'm I'm on vacation, bro, Like I'm I'm just datie.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I'm getting old man. Listen.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: So you were up here for one hundred years, you
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: moved back down home to North Carolina, where you've you've
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: been for a couple of years, about three years. Yeah,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and now you're back up here. This is where you
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: choose to come back for vacation.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: We we always said and we left that we would
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: that we would try to make time to vacation in
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: New England. We love New England. I mean absolutely, it's
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: not out of our bond. I watched I watched a
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: new heart show man and I I cry every time
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: when I see Vermont and hear Vermont and think about Vermont,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: and it's harder and hard to watch it, even though
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: it's really funny. But uh, every time we hear something
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: about New England, we take we take some pride in
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: our hearts. So, yeah, we can't do it every year,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: but if I can do it every so many years,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the plan. So we decided last year
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: this was gonna be the year and we're gonna make
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: our first vacation and come up and experience at all
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: and heading back heading to PA to do the same thing.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Really back home.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you told me when you left Vermont and
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you were moving back home, you said, to be a
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: private conversation off there. You said, we have made so
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: many roots here we've established, we have fallen in love
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: with so many people and have made some really incredible relationships.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Yep, and we have no intention of letting those slip
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: through the cracks. Right. Yeah, that's the really hard part
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: when you're on vacation. You want to see everybody and
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: you can't. I've got to we we leave tomorrow and
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: to head to PA and uh, man, I'm just you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: there's there's a couple people I'm not going to be
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: able to see today. And but yeah, you're buddy, this
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: is Becka and I were talking about it. You know.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I we we left everybody, we knew everything, we knew
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: and built roots in Pennsylvania and here and really established
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: your own identity and the whole whole kitt in caboodle
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: and so man it it how could you?
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, we were we were family. You know. The
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: hard part is really is is that there are moments
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I want to come back because somebody is going through
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: something or need to come back, and I can't. I
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: can't because we have things pressing where we are. But
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: when we can, man, we want to.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And you have you you've been up here with with
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: mission groups, with with not one but two floods that
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: we've had, well, just.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I just with the one. I came just with one,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: the first one, the first one, Yeah, yeah, I came
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: just with the first one. I wasn't able to come
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: in the second one. We've in North Carolina, we've had
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: our own flooding with Helene, and it was it hands down,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you know, all the officials, myself included. I was on
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: the ground about a week after the flood. It's worse
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: than Katrina. I mean, just absolutely worse to Katrina and I.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: And I was on the ground a few months after Katrina,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: and I thought, when I mean, that was horrific.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: But you said to me after, uh, I'm trying to
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: plank the last the last one up in the hills
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: of North Carolina, Helen, Helene, You said to me, hey, man,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: the church and I are getting together with a couple
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: of mission groups and we're headed to the hills. What's
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the name of the town up there?
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: We uh so, Spruce Pond and Burnsville, North Carolina were
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the hardest hit, Okay, And so we went to we
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: went to both those towns and at that time and
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: it still is like this. It's it's not as bad now,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: but at that time, a week after the storm, we
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: didn't have telephone signal, we didn't have reliable electricity, we
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: didn't have water and uh and so you know, I
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: would literally when I would find a telephone signal, I
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: would text my wife and say I am at this location,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: and then we would lose it. And when I get
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: it again, hey, now I'm at this location. Right. So
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: that way, if something happened to me in the middle
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: of all the assessing that we needed to do, you know,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: she at least had a dot of where I was.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: You in our friendship, you have always reminded me, no
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: matter what's happening, to be blessed for even hardship. You
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: live your life like that. You that's who you are.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: You.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: You saw things that were unimaginable, not just the power
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: of what mother nature can do, the power of water,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: but you saw homes gone, you saw lives completely shattered,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: You saw death.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: You saw.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: People losing their husbands, losing their wives, losing their family members.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: That's I'm guessing gonna stick with you for forever. You've
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: come home. You came home from that trip a new man, right, So,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you know, my first trip up and you've seen some stuff, man.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my first trip, it was a team
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: of us pastors. My associate Brian was with me. He's phenomenal,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: and they had to we had to. Uh we were
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: So we were at this elementary school that turned into
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: a clothing shelter. And when I tell you there was clothing.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: There was feet tall of clothing in a gymnasium and
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: in every classroom and water and all these goods. It
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: was such incredible to see. But we got a phone
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: call while we were there that there was a group
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: of people stuck high up on the mountain and they
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: needed certain a certain amount of supplies, and all those
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: supplies were at that school. So we loaded up the
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: van and took it. They had to plow us in
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: to where they're located when we got there, which took forever.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: When we got there, the State Forester Services. Those jokers
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: are some bad jokers.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tall those jokers. They pull up in a
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: quad and we loaded that thing down, strapped it down.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: And when I mean they took off up a mountain, jad,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you they there was no road, there's no trail.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: They took off up a landslide hill to a family
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: that we couldn't see, and it was actually a group
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: of families, and they just took off with it and
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: they were gonna go as high as they could with
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: the quad and then hike the rest of it up.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: And we're not talking like a few bags of stuff.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I'm talking like a half a vanload, fifteen passenger vanload
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: full of stuff, and like it like that, like it
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: just stuck with me, like just like, oh my gosh.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: So then we had to like we're blown away by this,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: and we leave. We had to get plowed out to
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: get out of the area to get back to where
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: we were going. And we so we get stuck. We're stopped.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: We're stopped along this makeshift roadway on the river and
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: we see a search and rescue team this close to
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: my window and they've got these metal prods and they're
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: just just poking the ground and and you have to know,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: like we I know enough that the dirt along the
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: river bank that's there now was not there before, and
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: it's feet high, feet like six seven, eight nine ten
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: feet high, and they're poking around for bodies and they're
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: and there's debris and they're They're climbing in and out
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: of these debris piles looking for bodies, and we know
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: when they found a body because they would climb out
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: and they market with a certain mark, and so one
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: mark meant nothing's there, the other the mark meant something
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: is there. And so like it just I mean, I've
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: seen a lot of devastation that was that was next
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: level just to and we're talking a week two weeks
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: after the storm. I've been four times. We're sending another
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: crew up. I won't be able to go on it
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: at the end of June. I'll probably go one more
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: time this year, I think, And uh it it there's
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: there's still even though things are cleaner, they're still finding bodies. Yeah.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: So man, it's it's it's it's incredible. You know.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Every Wednesday, and as you just heard, Sweethearts and Heroes
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: is part of my Wednesday morning program. Here they talk
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: about hope. Yeah, all the time. I have said to
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: you countless times that that I my personal feeling is
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: that hope can be such a a dangerous word in
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: that we can have all of the hope in the world,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: but when nothing is delivered or nothing good results from,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: no matter how well we wish or hope for something
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: that there's a risk that we take. We're vulnerable to disappointment,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: to defeat. And how difficult is it to have hope
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the next time?
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Well, that's because you know not to say this out
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: of love. Your definition of hope is not accurate. The
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: definition of hope is the assurance that God keeps us word.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: So when we took all those supplies up that mountain,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: there's this tiny little church. Every church became a resource
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: center for the community, every single church, didn't matter what
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: your size was, who you were, you became aime, a
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: distribution point of resources. And when we got there a
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: week after the storm, and they were they were in
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: max capacity. There was no need for blankets, no need
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: for clothes, no need the thing they needed gas and fuel.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: That was really the biggest thing at that point. A
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: week after the storm they needed and so but they
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: they had everything and there was joy that was unspeakable.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: And and like you, you had your your telephone service
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: and internet service is from eight pm at night to
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: eight am in the morning. Because Starlink sent up free
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: satellites and in order to accommodate law enforcement first responders,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: they had to turn it off to civilian use during
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: the day. They just think about that. That's how that's
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: how that worked. And so but but man like they
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: went from losing everything that now just the community showed
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: up in such a drastic response. They have everything that
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: need except for fuel. We had to figure that part out,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: and there was just such joy. I mean, the literal
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: response was from one lady. We talked to you know,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: we we never thought we could have it this good.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, your homes are gone, like you like,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: your relatives are gone and she and she just said, yeah,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: but look look at what's around us, like, look at
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: how the communities and the state and the nation has
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: responded to us. And and so it As a believer,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: we know that that man that happens because God's gonna
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: keep his word. God's gonna provide for us. God's gonna
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: care for us. God's gonna meet the need. God's gonna
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: God's gonna come alongside of us when we're at not
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: just our highs, but even our deepest lows. God will
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: provide for all of those needs. And so that that's hope.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Hope is the assurance that God keeps us word. Hope
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: is not like buying a lottery ticket right where. Hey, man,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I'm I you know, this could be it, bro, this
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: could be it. This, this opportunity could be life to
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: That's not hope, JD. Hope is the absolute assurance that
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: God's going to keep his work.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm so happy to see you. You know, I
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: had Mary.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Peterson in here yesterday and shame on me for not
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: knowing that that you you were connected to Mary Peterson
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Woodland Studios and her great husband, and you know, uh,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: we were talking about you afterwards and she's like, oh, yeah,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: we just had dinner and everything, and I'm like, he's
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: one of the greatest dudes I've ever met.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: He's just he's a.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Pastor, he's a preacher, minister, whatever you want, whatever stamp
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: you want to put on yourself. But he's also a
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: regular dude.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Just a regular dude, regular dude.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, I love that about you. And you're you're the
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: pastor of a huge church.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: How many members, Uh, we're we're somewhere, We're somewhere just
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: north of two hundred, I mean just we It's a
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: temple Baptist church, a fantastic church in fayetble If you're
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: driving down I ninety five. We're at exit fifty five. Yeah. Uh,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: and you can't miss us. We were we When I
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: tell you that I'm literally on the interstate, I literally
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: sit at my office and look out my window and
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: watch ninety five traffic. Wow, I'm on I ninety five.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: We we literally have our own exit. So but uh, yeah, man,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: come come see us. We we live about ten miles
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: off of I ninety five seven ten miles someone in
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: that ballpark and uh, man, come we we'd love you
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: to come see this. Man. I love you. Man, I'm
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: if this is the only chance I get to see
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I'm happy with it. This is it.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: And you brought me coffee this morning.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I always look up bros right you.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: You brought me a cup a point Oh And I'm
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: just you know, I wanted to, uh to ask you.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I have a I have a friend and I don't
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: know if she's listening right now. Who is a helpless,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: helpless Starbucks God bless her addict.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, don't hate. It's more than a fan. I'm not hating.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, and I think of you every
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: time because she's like, I'll drive three hundred and fifty
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: seven miles for.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: A ice uf try.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: There's something about you Starbucks people that's not right, buddy.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, no, no, there's no, no, it's
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: not right. I like the local shops, but they're they're
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: hit or miss, right, they're they're hit or miss. And
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Espresso win on eight oh two coffee are sure like
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: your you're dead, intend to get good coffee at those places. Yeah,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: so I'm not drinking Starbucks when I got the either
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: one of those two nearby. But wow, but I am
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Starbucks over Duncan. I am Starbucks over Dunking. I'm not
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: gonna lie about it. Like, and the points are better, Like, dude,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: you go to Starbucks, you get one point per dollar
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: that you spend, so like I get a freak up
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: of coffee like all the time. I love it, you
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And if you use the gift
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: card is double points and there's some days there like
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: hey listen, you can get triple point. So man, why
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: wouldn't I go to Starbucks? But last time I went
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: to Starbucks, I had the pumpkin latte whatever, and I
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: it's it's ten bucks, I will pay ten ten bucks.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: I will pay ten bucks over the burnt tire coffee
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: that you get at Comby's any day. I'm telling you, man,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: have you had Combany's coffee like that? I haven't lately.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: It is I'm telling you. It's like you went to
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: uh the Governor's tire collection, licked every tire you know
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: and to test them. I mean, it's just it's a man,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I told I told Mary yesterday. I'm like, she's like,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: it's important to humanize the pastors.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: She's right, I'm like, human eyes. The guy's got steelers underwear.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Come on, all right, let's talk humanized. We're getting old
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: j D. Yeah. You know what I did this year?
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: I had a kolon oscary this year, first one, first one.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Have you ever had one? I have had one, You've
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: had one, I've had one. It was it was nothing.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: It was nothing, really, it really was nothing. Did you
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: drink the stuff or take the mira?
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: I drink. I drank the stuff there. I think it's
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: good to get cleaned out.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, come on, you need to get checked out, bro.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: But I took the MiraLax route. I took the Miralacs route.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: And now there's certain flavors of Gatorade that I can't
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: drink anymore. I understand what I'm saying. I do you
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, but do listen. I've had a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: lot of surgeries in my life, a lot of surgeries
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: in my life, and everybody was like, you're gonna take
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: the best nap ever. Yeah. I'm like, okay, and you're
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: gonna jump up and you're gonna be able to conquer
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: the world when you're done. Sure, sure, whatever, and uh
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: And I laid down, man, And they took me in
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: and laid me down, and I could feel them prepping me.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna go in detail,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: but should I'm saying like they're they're getting me ready,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: of course, and I'm like, hey, you're gonna knock me out,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: like please knock me out. And lady said, hey, watch this,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: and she had this syringe and my face went boom.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: And I woke up and the first thing I said
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: to Becca was, am I pretty? Am? I Am? I pretty? Today?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Do I look? You know, dude, I'm telling you, man,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I was on another planet. Whatever that stuff they gave me,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: I was out. I stayed out the whole day. I could.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was, I mean messed up. I tried
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: coaching basketball that night because I was gonna man up,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, I was gonna man up.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I told those kids. I don't
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: even know what I we did. I may have just
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: ran them the whole time. Anything.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: You don't care if they're going a foot up in there,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: We're three hundred and fifty feet up in there.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't matter. No, it does not matter. I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: mean what matters is to cleandland health, of course. But
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying, they knocked you out. They
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: could do whatever they want to with me. Man. They
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: probably inserted some robotic features in me, and I don't
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: turn into tracking system. Yeah, oh yeah, hands down, some
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: secret government thing in me.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: But how was March madness for you? What were you?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Are you? House fun? Bro? Huskies have fun on the show.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Are you a Huskies fan? What happened? Go well, listen,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I'm a realist. Cooper Flag's fun to watch. Had to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: pull for the New England guy, can't pull for Duke,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: but my tar heels. I'm so mad, man, I'm so mad.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I just want them to let me in that gym
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: with that team for ten minutes. That's all all these
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: timid I'll straighten them out. What would you say? Play
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: your position like you like you for crying out loud.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: You gotta my boy. Drake Powell is a slasher to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: the hoop. He does not shoot threes. He can Why
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: are they sticking him beyond the arc to shoot threes?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: He is a He is a hooper. He is a jumper.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Attack the dad gum hole, man, that's what you do. Na.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: They don't want to do that, man, they don't want
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: and Elliott canot until you learn to control the basketball.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Stop playing point guard, like, just stop playing point stop
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: giving the team like there were times he just like
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: he would he would stop at half court and be like, hey,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: you want the ball? Here you go, Merry Christmas? Like
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: stop it. Control the basketball like anyway, man, I'm telling
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I'm hot about it. You're you're a you're a basketball coach,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: you're a football coach? Yes? What am I missing here?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: I saw all I coached. That's that's what you coach.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: That's all I can still you have for a long
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: time and you're still coaching this.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, I might have retired from basketball this year, but
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know yet. We're gonna see.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: The NFL schedule just came out, came out, uh a
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, two weeks ago, something something like that.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Are you what say you? Are you excited? Are you?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's it's it's almost June. The NFL
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: season starts tomorrow. Yeah, I'm excited about it.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I wish my Steelers would move away
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: from Aaron Rodgers and let's just settle down and get go,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: get it. But I don't know why, old man Aaron's
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: got a like why why are we caving to Aaron Rodgers?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like he like the dog
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: the boy, don't want to be here while we caving
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: to him. Man, he I mean, I know he's got
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: stuff going on, and that's that's man. We pray for you. Well, bro,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: like make a decision, make a decision, and let's move
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: on to Mason Rudolph and let's like, like let's do
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: something else, like go fight, like go go get Kirk
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Cousins out of Atlanta because he's miserable down there, and
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: let's let's let's compete Roban not we gotta wait on
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: old man Aaron to come home. I mean taking Jared
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Tall and you know, put on his anyway.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I just godly, when you're preaching, and and I've seen
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: you preach before, you're you're you begin right, somewhat semi scripted, right,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: then you go nuclear.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: And then you and then you try to come back.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I bring it back and bring it back to planet Earth. Right.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Have you ever incorporated the Steelers in some capacity into
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: your sermon? It's a message from our Lord God.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: No, I talk a lot of smack about the Cowboys.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I will because listen, man, fallen world, sinful world, you
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like I gotta I mean, listen,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: we we as Steelers, found a way to win this
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: year and lose at the same time. The Cowboys can't
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: even figure that part out, like they just lose, right,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: And so I have to throw the cowboys under the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: bus all the time. Okay, it's necessary, you know what
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's necessary. And I got a lot of
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: cowboy fans in my church. And yeah, but listen, you
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: know what, for some reason, they don't get offended by that.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: They'll get offended if I talk about Pepsi's better diet
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: coke For some reason, I don't I don't know what that.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: But cowboys they don't get offended by I.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Just I hit them when I pick careful, buddy, you'll
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: get some flat tires in the parking lot. That's probably true.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I know we're all over the road. It's I love
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: talking to you, and I love seeing you, and I
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: love you just as a person so so much. You
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: told me years ago you've lost how many pounds?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: I lost one hundred and eighty. I think it was
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty. I've gained back fifty and about
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: thirty of that's muscle. When I got North Carolina, my
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: doctor took a look at me and she said, I mean,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: you've lost too much muscle mass. And with my arthritis
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: and my spine and stuff, she's like, you, you have
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: to build muscles. So so over the last three years
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: that's been my goal, is increasing my amount of protein
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: and building muscles. So three days a week I combine
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: cardio and push pull resistant band regimen, and then two
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: days a week I just do cardio and then I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: rest the other two days a week, and I'm somewhere
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: in at eighteen one hundred and two thousand calorie range
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: every day. But I can't, like I'm you know, the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: hard part is when you when you increase that amount
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: of protein in tone and your your your physical yeah,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: five six days a week, like really physical, then you're
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: always hungry, like always hungry. So and then things get
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: kind of out of balance. Your sugars kind of get
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: messed up. So I had to my sugars got a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: little bit out about out of balance. I've got to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: get I'm working on getting that stuff under control.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: That's remarkable. One hundred and eighty pounds.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, Yeah, I'm working on the guns, baby, I'm working.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Let me see the guns. I'm working hard on the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: KD I'm working. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Wow, working,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Look at yeah right, it's all this excess skin right
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: here that I can't get rid of. Yeah, me too,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: I have the same problem. What are you laughing about.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: We're in the same boat, bro, We're in the same bro.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: So you you said to me, when I lose all
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: this weight, I want to climb camel some with you.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: What's going on, dude? Why haven't we climbed camel? Because
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because I did a probably why.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: I did a seventy two hour endurance challenge in the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: mountains of North Carolina and it almost killed me. Matter
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: of fact, the same my same doctor. When I came back,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: I had two vernacle what she called pre hernias, and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: my knees are shot and I can't. I had to
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: come back because I couldn't get well. And and uh,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: what was that organization again? It's four M, Yes, it's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: four M. And that's called the Extreme Character Challenge. I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: took a group of guys and the hardest thing you've
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: ever done, Oh my gosh, hands down. So I have
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Fable is the home of Fort brag the largest military
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: installation of the world and largest army base in the world.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: And so I've got a lot of military guys in
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: my church, and one of them is a colonel. And
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: all I will say to you is, at one point
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: in the night, in the wee hours of the morning,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I lost control of my anger because I just wanted
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: to sleep. That's all I want to do. Is I
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: want was a nap. That's all I wanted. And so
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: we had these certain break moments where we had these
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: speakers and it was somewhere above two am, and I
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: lost my anger on somebody and they laid me down
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: next to my buddy John, Colonel Woodruff, and he leaned
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: over to me and he said, I just want you
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: to know that this is this is the equivalent of
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: three days of Ranger school. And he said, and you're
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: doing You're doing pretty good. And and I'm like, that
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: says a lot, bro, Yeah, that says a lot. Yeah.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: And he's like, now, I'm not saying you would finish
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Ranger school, but you're in the thick. But I'll take it, bro,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: I'll take it. Why I finished it, man, not it
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: wasn't pretty. I've learned. I learned this lesson faithfulness and
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: finishing doesn't always is always pretty. So wow, it wasn't
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: It wasn't pretty, but I did it. So and uh,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: if I go back, I'm going back to help and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: not do it again. Amazing. That was that was hard. Listen.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: We we we chat on the phone, we text. Uh.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: We can go.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Months yep without without talking or chatting, and when we do.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Just pick back up. Bang, Hey, I got a question
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: for you. And here we are. It's like we're catching up,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: live on the air, live on the air. Why not?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: You know what I said? Here, We're like, we're trying
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: to find some time, and I was like, let's just
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: do it on the air. Yes, that's the fun. I
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: got a question for you, please. Lily's eleven, Lily's ten
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: years old. Ten boys are becoming a factor, they are. Okay,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: can what's your plan? Can we can we hold hands
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: and pray about this? I have a better solution for you,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: But I just want to know what is your plan?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm yeah, well, of course we're gonna pray, pray,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: prayers the thing. But I just want to that's just
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: my plan. That's your plan right here? Okay.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I don't have the camera on me on purpose, Okay,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: because I don't want Meta and Mark Zuckerberg to shut
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: me down.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's my plan right there. I might fill up
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: your comment section right now, okay, please? All right? So
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: this how old I am. I was at a funeral
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: and ran into my college crew, right, Okay, that's how
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: old I am. We go to funerals to see friends. Yeah,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: And I was asking my buddy Mitchell, I said, Mitchell
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: who he lives in west North Carolina and very rural area.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: I said, Mitchell, your daughter's fifteen. She's got a boyfriend. Yep,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Lord Helpin, yeah right, I said, so what do you do? Like,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: how do you how do you deal with all these boys?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: He said, Chris, I got this for you. He showed
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: me his picture on his phone, and it's a picture
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: of his daughter holding up the pieces of a castrated cow.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Beautiful yep. And he says, I literally shout this to
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: every boy, the cousins. I don't care if they're friends.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: I don't care if I don't care that cloud don't care.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Every boy sees his picture and they all understand exactly
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: what's going on. And I think that's what you do.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: You take her to some dairy farm or some ca
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: and you you let him like teach her how to
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: castraight a cat. Why doesn't he have that framed or
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: does he have that framed? I don't know. It's on
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: his phone though, and it's it's easily accessible. I can
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: tell you that much.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I understand the phone should be above the man. Yeah,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: for real, that's I'll tell him. I'll tell Mitchell he's
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: got a I have a friend who has a billion chickens,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: uh meat meat birds, and you know he processes, he
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: slaughters them and everything. And he's got the the black
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: rubber apron yeah, uh, and the and the the the
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: meat cleavers and and all that stuff. And he's you know,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: he's pretty spattered up. He's like, I'll just come over
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: the house. I'll just have a little bit spattered here
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: that is, and I'll just come over the house. And
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I said, will you walk in with the cleaver in
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: your hand with fresh blood on it? Yes, absolutely, of
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: course I will. And I said, can we say that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: you just got out of the penitentiary and he said, yeah,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: you could say that too, and that you're my uncle
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Bill and you've got some mental health issues and whatever. Yes, listen,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I'll be the first person to admit. Yeah, yeah, I'm scared.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: I only have one little girl is ten, and I'm scared.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not scared about She's gonna make good decisions.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: She's good. Oh yeah, but the other guy. And she's
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: already got this this friend. Do you know his name?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not gona talk about it. I'm not gonna say
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: his name. Carson whoops. But you know, this is this
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: is this is this is a moment in my life
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: where I'm and I've got friends who are older than me,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: and there's and they've got kids in their late teens
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: in the early twenties, and they're like Brouck Cole.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: So I was hoping to see Lily and remind her
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: of what I told her before we left, and that
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: is that if a boy or man is her you,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: that there's three places that you need to hit. Nuts, knees,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: and throat. Wow, yeah, nuts. I tell every young lady
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: that that's coming from a pastor. Listen, that's beautiful. Listen,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now self defense. Listen, Ring
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: wrex In here, right, I'll tell him the same thing.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: He needs to add that to his curriculum. I'm just saying, like, like, listen,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: inside outside, the knees, right, you'll debilitate them to hit
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: the ground. They're not go chase you at that point,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: right sure. And if they stood, they get up from that,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be real slow, right right, And of course
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: the nuts, right, that's gonna do. And and listen the throat,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: like they're not gonna be able to say anything. They're
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: gasping for air. I'm just I'm telling you this is
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: what I tell young ladies. This is you know, and
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: then and then and it run and like running your help,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: run and find your crazy uncle. Who's with the meat cleaver?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Is I love you so much? You can't tell her?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Chris said, did that you handle a boy who's getting
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: abusive to you? This is what you do?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Oh man, dude, she's you know, uh. The other day
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: and I've already talked about this on the air once.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: But the other day she had she we had a
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: blue jay that got stuck in the chicken coop and
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: she went in there and rescued this blue jay. I mean,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: how many of us get to hold the blue jay?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: And she's holding this blue jay and just love and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: up on this thing, and it's closing its eyes and
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: they're all they're having their moment. Very late for school, huh.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: And she's like, dad, you know I can't we gotta
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: go to school. I'm really late. I'm like, screw it, man, Yeah,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: just save for this moment. And she did for the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: longest time. Yea, look at this bird up close. This
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: is and this is nature. This is a gift from God.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: This is an opportunity that we're not passing this care
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: for late school.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: She's not going to learn that in classroom, she's not
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: gonna learn. That's why we homeschool kids. Man, good man,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: you got I mean you can't pass up those kinds
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: of experiences. And that's an education of itself. Sure you
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Another experience. Uh and I thought
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: of you. Uh literally, I'm not making this up. Yeah,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: two days ago mowing because we haven't had a chance
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: to mow hear In fromont for the last six years
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: because of the rain. Mowing. What do you think happened
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: to me? She found a snake? You bet? What'd you do?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Came out right, almost ran over. It went in front
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: of the going going well, because God created this beautiful creature.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Snakes are meant to die. That they that's why they live.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: They lived to get killed. Say, there's no good reason
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: they kill, Mike, So so do cats like keep get
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: a cat? Yeah right, but there's no good Come on,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: what's good?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Of?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: What's good?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Blow them up? I have said I have treated like
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: the gopher. Well, so I.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Scream like a girl, Uh to Sherlyn to help me.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: If she did not, because listen, it's at this point
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: in the in the head, it's kill or be killed.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: So she comes running out of the house because I'm
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: screaming hysterically. It was about maybe a foot long garter snake,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's a garter, uh moccasin, the cotton
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: mouth or whatever they're called it. Yeah, she comes running
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: out and grabs it and picks it up, and it's
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: up around the neck and it's coiled all around her arm.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, nope, nope, nope.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, she shaved me, she saved
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: my life. But I'm like, man, it's like Autrey's got
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: to hear about this.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Listen, let me let me tell you one. So last summer,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Sam was at the church with me, and there was
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: his buddy, Charlie was there. Charlie's mom is one of
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: our admins at church, and so we're all there and
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: these birds had built this nest on like the front
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: of the church and we have these little nest protectors
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: and still they built it. I don't know what they did. Well,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: these two little baby birds fell out and they come
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: running in the office with these two baby birds and
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: they're just squealing. And so Charlie's mom gets a box
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: and makes a little thing out of it, and she's like,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what to do. I said,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do either, and so I said, well,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: let me let me take them and I'll go to
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: the Foresty Service was right behind our church, So let
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: me go to the Forestry office. Drove over there and
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: they looked at it, and I walked in and I said,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: I got these birds. They fell out. I can't get
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: him back up there. What do I do with them?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: And dude, they looked at me like I was an idiot.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, they were like, just let him die, like,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: go put them in the woods, let a snake eat them.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm not letting these birds die with it.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: I Am not giving a snake a free meal. You
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: are the United States Forestry Service? What are you talking about?
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: So then I there was a little nature center in Fayetteville,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: So I drove over there, walked in. There's there's a
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: school group there, tons of kids. And this got me
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: and was like, what do you got? Just got these
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: two birds they fell out of the nest, their baby birds.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: What do I do with them? And in front of
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: all these kids and their parents, he goes, you just
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: stick him in the woods and let him die like
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: that's just how life works. You just you just let
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: them die. That was the wrong thing to say, because
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: every mama and kid in that building swarmed him. You
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: could have let these birds die, like he had to
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: take me to a back office and to get I mean,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: they were I thought they were gonna hurt him, you
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. He took the birds and he
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: covered them up and they rested whatever, and we left
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: him there, and I'm sure he took him in the
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: woods to let him die. But I'm gonna tell you something.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: There was a moment there I thought these mamas were
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: gonna come out and like they were gonna put him
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: out in the woods with the snakes and let him die. Yeah,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: but yeah, you know what I mean, the Vermona inside
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: of me was like, we're not letting the birds die.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: What are you doing? What have you done?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Since you've you've only been in Vermont a couple of days?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: What who have you seen? What have you done? Where
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: have you gone? Where have you eaten? Tell me about it.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: You're leaving tomorrow to go back to North Carolina.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to see our friends in Pittsburgh tomorrow.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: Sam wants to go by Penn State and he wants
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: to go see Penn State. So we're gonna we're gonna
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: squeeze by there. Man. Right now, they're eating at the wayside.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: We've been expresso twice. You have to go to the
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: melt down. We love Diane. Yeah, I have to go
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: to the melt down, of course. And I'll tell you
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: a really cool story. When I had gastick bypass uh,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: I forget if it's three or four weeks, whatever it is.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: I was on an all liquid diet and that can
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: only have a little bit of liquid, and there's nowhere
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: in Vermont to eat like that. And my friends, I
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: had some friends coming to town. They wanted to go
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: out to eat, so we took them to the melt down.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: And my plan was just to sit there and sip water.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: That was literally the plan. And Diane went and got
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: me just the broth of one of her soups and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: brought me yeah and so, and then then every week
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: after that, like she would you know, Becca would notifi
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: or she'd call back or whatever, Hey come by and
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: get some broth for it. Like she would make I mean,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: she was just fantastic. So we're friends with Diana. So
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: we have to go to melt down and man, listen,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: I love going to Cabot and grazing the cheese table.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: It's different now though they don't have all the cheese. What.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that's about. But we Cabot and uh,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Lake Champlain chocolate. I have to go get the champagne
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: truffle dark chocolate, cold hollow. I did sip a little
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: bit apple ciderm it was so good. Yeah, it was
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: so good. Today we're having lunch. I have to go
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: to Lake Champlain. Is if I if I move back
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: to Vermont, I am praying God would let me live
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: on Lake Champlain. You love Champlain, I love it. Yeah.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: So we're going Lake Champlain for lunch and then we're
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: having dinner with some friends. Tonight went and saw some ballgames. Man,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: all these kids, like coach, they're growing. Yeah, godly, they're
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: growing deep voices, and they're taller than me.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Speaking of tall, how tall is Sam now? Because Mary
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: was saying he's like ten, he's like five ten. I
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: think he's growing in the last week. I think he's
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: he's like five to ten.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: He is he I know he I'm five ten, So
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: he's just a little taller than me. How old is he?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: He's fifteen and he's taller than you. Yeah, oh yeah, dude,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: he be size fifteen shoe. He's gonna shoot up. Man,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: what what she playing? He's doing hoop right? Basketball? Football,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: and he's throwing shot put, running on the hundred meter dash.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: He uh wow. He started last year on varsity at
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: right guard, d end and center, and he we rotated
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: him in and out a lot. Last year was a
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: hard year for football for everybody but he and then
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: he moved over to power forward for me because I
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: got some taller kids and who can jump a bit
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: higher than him. But Sam's a good body. He can
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: power to the whole. So he had a really good
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: year in basketball, really good year in basketball. But so
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: so I have to ask you, he's fifteen. Girlfriend. Man,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: that's a sensitive subject around our house. Bro, it's just
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: right behind you. It aired out. I'm not saying I
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: won't talk about it. But the boy listen, man, dating
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: now is much different than it was and we were
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: his age. It's all like text message now. They don't
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: talk on the phone, they don't you know, everything's a message. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: I mean it's it is weird. And and now there's
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: these things that kids are doing where like you don't
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: ask a girl for a phone number, your friend gets
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: her number for you and you never and like she
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: does the same. It's so weird. Sure, it's weird underground,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so it's a sensitive subject.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: He I mean, you know, and now like girls will
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: will you know, girls will like you and not tell
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: you that, and then when it when it gets disclosed,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: they don't like you, and and and like and boys
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: at the same time, or you know, they'll like a
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: girl and they'll they'll tell the girl and then like
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: the next day they don't like the girl, they move on.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: And it like we're trying to be like, Looksten, man,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: you date one girl at a time. Oh yeah, you don't.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: You don't date multiple worlds at a time. You chase
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: after her heart, right, You're not chasing after her body.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: You're chasing after her heart. And you you know, and
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: and and you allow the Lord to work in all
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: of that. And but man, I mean, do we have
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: a home landline that never gets we don't make calls
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: on and I and and and some I'm like Sam
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: has a cell phone, but it's it's under it's it's uh,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: it's it's kind of locked up right now. I'm like,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: give the give the give the girl the home number.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: Not Dad, I'm not, Well, that's not what we do.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: That's not what we do.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: No, I don't get it when you stay locked up.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Are you're talking about like in a safe Oh yeah
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: all right, yeah yeah.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're learning responsibility. Man, you gotta be If you've
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: got a cell phone, you gotta responsible with it. Ah,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: you gotta be responsible with it. Do you know what?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: The you know what? You know what? It's helped out
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: the most on vacation is that I only use this
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: phone for certain things. I like, I leave in the car. Yeah.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: The only reason I have it now is so Becca
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: can come back and pick me up. Know where I'm at,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Like I don't. Yeah, if I could, I would listen.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: We had the SBI show up at our church to
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: do a seminar on cyber safety and all that stuff
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: like sex, traffick and stuff. When they got done, JD,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: I kid you not. I turned around and looked at everybody,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: including my buddy who's the colonel, and we all said, hey, listen, Chris,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: do you know of a remote island in Vermont that
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: we can all move to where there's no electricity and
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: there's no nothing, and we can just ditch the cell
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: phones and start a commune. And I'm like, yes, that's
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: exactly what we all want to do. I'm like, dude, man,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: people crazy in this world. Jd They crazy, And I'm
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: not done with all the craziness. Man, like hacking in
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: the cameras on your phone and take like, oh my gosh, yeah,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I mean snapchats the devil. Don't get
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: off of snap.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: I know, man, you know it's like I Lily's got
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: the damn tablet going all the time now, and we
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: don't know what we're if we're looking at something that's
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: AI generated, if it's real, or if it's not real. Dude, dude,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: for real, I'm Lily, that's not real. Yeah what do
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: you mean, dad? What do you mean real? What is real?
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: What's real?
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: So this is how crazy things are. If you go
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: to see almost scare you. Now, this is straight from
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: the State Bureau of Investigation in North Carolina. You're scaring
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: me in those shorts. Let's say you go, hey, man,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: when you got the legs anyway. Let's say you go
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: to Boulder Beach and you guys are playing, having a
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: good time, picnicking, swimming, whatever, and somebody takes a picture
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: of their own kid and you're in the background. Right,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: They're not trying to take a picture of you, but
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: you're you're in the background. Yeah, they post it on
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: social media. Anybody can anybody who sees that picture can
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: cut you out of it and then present you in
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: a way that right, And they will exploit you without
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: you known about it, And they can exploit you sexually.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: They can exploit you. They can I mean, they could
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: do whatever they want to that picture. And there's not
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: one thing you can do about it. Yeah, not one thing.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: If they reached out to you and and you know,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: try to, uh what is it, ask for money and
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: whatever you literally it's it's so prevalent that the state
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: of your investigation is like we have to go, Yeah,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: a case like that's not as important as this case
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: over here. So we have to let that just be.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: And they can't. There's nothing you can do, man, nothing.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I want to I want to close out this morning
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: by asking you a question, yeah that I haven't had
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: a chance to ask you looking into the camera, what
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: would you say to Brandon Carbo you got a chance
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: to see him? Sit down with me? Right, there's the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Brandon is a uh for those of you that that
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: don't know, is a local guy who's been in a
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: lot of trouble. There's there's a lot of drug use,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of misdirection in his life, and he
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: is has been described as a as a real nuisance,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: a real problem in our community. He's not the only one,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: but a lost soul who's consistently making some really bad decisions,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: not well liked. Business owners in town are fed up with.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: And not just Brandon and then the panhandling and whatnot,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: but but others as well. We have a problem here
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: in our little granite city, but there's problems everywhere in
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: every city, in every town. You've got him down there
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: in fan pil What say to this guy? Did you
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: get a chance to see that interview?
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: I did watch the interview, and I was really disappointed
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: in some of the comments in the comments section, because
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people who lacked understanding compassion.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: I think what you did was phenomenal to at least
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: give us an inside picture of why this person is
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: in the situation that he's in and why he is
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: the way he is. And I would if I could
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: broad stroke it like I'm watching people walk by. Right
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: when I walked in, I literally saw three people like
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: showing off their ankle bracelets, their ankle detectors and laughing
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: about it. So it's not just Brandon Carbo. I would say,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: you are making a decision to allow rough, hard circumstances
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: in your life to find the steps you take right now,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: and it's your decision, Like, it's not, we're not choosing
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: it for you. It's painful that you've had the loss
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: that you've had. It's painful that you are struggling with
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: the things that you're struggling with right now, and that
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: you've got family who is wrestling with things, and maybe
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: you're having to take responsibility for like all of that.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: But you are choosing to let that define you and
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: who you are right now, And what you need to
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: be doing is making a completely different choice. You need
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: to understand that you are not defined by the circumstances
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: you're in, or even the addictions you have or the
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: hardships you're you've gone through. You are defined as being
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: God's child first and foremost, you are blessed, adopted by
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, saved and redeemed and loved and cared for
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: and been given grace and mercy. You when you put
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: your faith in Christ, he takes you from what who
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: is dead, to now alive. This is a This is
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: Ephesians chapter two the Bible. Like you need to understand
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: your identity and in our whole community's identity is not
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: found and your circumstances are who you want to be.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: It's defined by who God made you to be and
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: how God made you and his redemptive, his redemption for you.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: So you know, it pains me to see It pains
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: me not only to see that this kind of lifestyle celebrated,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: but it's also tolerated even by our legal system. It
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: pains me to see that that that now we just
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: kind of settled into the rhythm of this is who
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: we are, and that's not who you are, who you
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: meant to be. And guys like Brandon Carbo can live
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: a life that's totally worthy of goodness and strength and wisdom.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: His life could totally be redeemed. I think that there
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: needs to be compassion, but also thinks that things there
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: needs to be a strong law and there needs to
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: be some kind of strength from the legal sys, not
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: just law enforcement, but from the court system, from the
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: state house, from who makes the laws. There needs to
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: be some strong effort to curb and change the culture
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: that is really hindering and hurting a community. At the
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: exact same time, we need to have compassion to look
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: at somebody who's been to the situation and help them
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: walk out of it. At the end of the day,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: it's Brandon Carbo and and and everybody who's in his boat.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: It's their choice. It's it's not like you've got to
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: choose to take those steps out and you have to
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: want it. You have to want it badly.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: You have to you have to want sobriety badly enough
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: to be able to get on the road.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: If you fall off the road, you you've got to
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: want it badly enough to get back on it. And
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: we as a society are are almost for lack of
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: a better term, forced to tolerate.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that, you know, I have a lot
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: of compassion for those guys who are making the effort
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: in struggling to take steps out of old lifestyles and
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: old sins. I think that that is what a community
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: like us, uh, like those like us in the community,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: that's what we need to have, you know what I mean.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think we have that, and and and and
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: let me say there's some of that's understandable when you've
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: got an habitual offender that's continued to like, it's hard
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: to give forgiveness to an habitual defender. It just is
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: say what you want, right And and I'm not going
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: to fault somebody who's struggling in that, and that's have
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: struggling to forgive somebody when they're just habitually continuing to
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: do what they want to do and doing what they're doing. So,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: but I will say, you've got to make that choice.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: It's not my choice to make. It's not your Joe.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: You got to make that choices. People obviously here to
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: help you. You got to make the choice not only
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: to take the first step, but every step after that
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: and stay faithful to it.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in here, man, Thanks for coming on
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: with me, buddy, let me love you. Let's uh, let's
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: have our off air laughs too. Which let's be honest.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: Some of our conversations off the air, really would pay
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: pay per view?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: Am I right? That's right, that's exactly right. Hey, somebody
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: down here, I can't read it. That's far away France.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: And somebody says you hate snakes. Thank you.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, we're together, thank you. We're all we're all part
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: of that that club. That's right, that's right. Why did
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: why did God create snakes? Did God create snakes?
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: God eight snakes? I'm just not really sure what the
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: reason is. I mean like I ask all the time, right,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: I ask all the time, Like what's the point in
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: Chevelin's snow in the winter time? When the snow plots
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: will come and refill up your driveway anyway or it's
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: going to dump in other for inches?
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  Speaker 1: That's equal to why did you create snakes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I asked these questions. There's no answer. The Lord.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: The Lord will tell me in due time. When you
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: get the answer, would you let me know, I'll let
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: you know. Thank you. I'll come on air too and
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: let everybody please. Okay, Love you buddy, love you too.
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  Speaker 2: Man w