Latest / Trapped Souls Podcast / Big Trip Evidence Review - Trapped Souls
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- 0:02SPEAKER_05: Recording.
- 0:04SPEAKER_05: I'm very recording.
- 0:06SPEAKER_05: Hey, I'm Ryan from Trap Souls.
- 0:08SPEAKER_05: I'm here with Sammy.
- 0:10SPEAKER_05: Hi.
- 0:11SPEAKER_05: And Aaron.
- 0:12SPEAKER_06: Hi.
- 0:14SPEAKER_05: It's been a minute since we've done a Trap Souls podcast.
- 0:16SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 0:17SPEAKER_05: You know, I've been doing other groups lately, but um, we had the big trip, did a little evidence review from our big trip.
- 0:24SPEAKER_05: So we did six places, five nights.
- 0:26SPEAKER_05: So we'll start from the beginning of how this played out.
- 0:30SPEAKER_05: You know, so being a big group, we had a hard time doing a lot of investigations.
- 0:36SPEAKER_05: Yes.
- 0:37SPEAKER_05: And obviously as a group, we want to do investigations.
- 0:40SPEAKER_05: So you know, her husband and I worked together and we're like, why don't we just slam a whole bunch in a week?
- 0:46SPEAKER_05: A week.
- 0:47SPEAKER_05: It sounded like a great idea.
- 0:50SPEAKER_05: And I don't think it was as bad.
- 0:54SPEAKER_06: It wasn't it was the lack of shower for me that ruined my life.
- 0:59SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:01SPEAKER_05: So it was June, it was hot.
- 1:03SPEAKER_06: It was very hot.
- 1:05SPEAKER_05: Um, yeah, lack of showerings sucked.
- 1:08SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:10SPEAKER_05: We got through it.
- 1:10SPEAKER_05: We did six places, five nights.
- 1:13SPEAKER_05: Um, it was supposed to be five places, four nights.
- 1:17SPEAKER_05: Well, actually it's supposed to be four or four.
- 1:18SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:19SPEAKER_05: Then I added the antique store.
- 1:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:22SPEAKER_05: Then I came with a great idea in Madison.
- 1:25SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:26SPEAKER_06: So it was a fantastic idea.
- 1:27SPEAKER_05: Well, you didn't go.
- 1:28SPEAKER_06: I know.
- 1:29SPEAKER_05: So I had to work.
- 1:30SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it works.
- 1:31SPEAKER_05: So but no, I mean we added Madison.
- 1:34SPEAKER_05: Um it's right down the street.
- 1:35SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I figured it'd be a good place to start.
- 1:38SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:39SPEAKER_05: We've been there a lot.
- 1:40SPEAKER_05: I'm actually going there the 22nd with RC Paranormal.
- 1:45SPEAKER_06: Oh, nice.
- 1:46SPEAKER_05: I think.
- 1:47SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:47SPEAKER_05: So I'll go back to Madison.
- 1:49SPEAKER_05: That'll be my 13th time.
- 1:50SPEAKER_05: Oh, parking number 13.
- 1:53SPEAKER_06: Should get you a cake.
- 1:56SPEAKER_05: So I don't know who else is going.
- 1:58SPEAKER_05: Um, it's RC Paranormal investigation.
- 2:00SPEAKER_05: They invited me to work down the road, so it should be fun.
- 2:03SPEAKER_05: Um, we'll see who else can go into that.
- 2:06SPEAKER_05: But anyway, so we got the RB.
- 2:10SPEAKER_05: So besides the shower.
- 2:14SPEAKER_05: Um Sammy will talk about Madison a little bit.
- 2:18SPEAKER_05: Um, a little disappointing, yeah.
- 2:22SPEAKER_05: Um, we do have some stuff that came from there.
- 2:25SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 2:26SPEAKER_05: Um, so we had, I don't know how many of us was there, like nine or ten.
- 2:30SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Madison.
- 2:32SPEAKER_06: Yeah, something like that.
- 2:34SPEAKER_05: So Baja and his son joined us from Lake Erie Shadow Hunters.
- 2:40SPEAKER_05: Then we had Reed and his brother, which they split, well, Reed's Mark split after the trip, created his own group.
- 2:49SPEAKER_05: And then so they were with us, and one of these EVPs is kind of based off those two.
- 2:55SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 2:56SPEAKER_05: Um I think it's the class A EVP.
- 3:00SPEAKER_05: We always get good stuff on the attic.
- 3:02SPEAKER_05: I mean, we'll play that in a little bit, but we started off, it was slow.
- 3:06SPEAKER_05: Um, were you in like you guys weren't in the room with us when we're in Sarah's room?
- 3:13SPEAKER_05: I think it's just the guys.
- 3:14SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 3:15SPEAKER_05: And we had Anthony up there from California.
- 3:18SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay, okay, yeah.
- 3:19SPEAKER_05: That's when Sarah kind of took a liking to him.
- 3:22SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 3:24SPEAKER_05: So I do have some video of that, we'll put that out a little bit later.
- 3:27SPEAKER_05: But it was Sarah, I never really hit anything in her room.
- 3:31SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean, other than that one really weird incident with Craig.
- 3:37SPEAKER_05: Yes.
- 3:37SPEAKER_05: So and the chair being hit, yeah.
- 3:39SPEAKER_05: And you know, so I mean, but for how popular that room is, I still have a hard time believing it's Sarah.
- 3:47SPEAKER_05: Mainly because it was Sarah at Richmond Hotter location.
- 3:50SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 3:51SPEAKER_05: So but we'll we'll go through some stuff.
- 3:56SPEAKER_05: So when we were in there though, we had it was Baja, his son, Reed, me, and Junior were in there.
- 4:04SPEAKER_05: And like we had the dead bell gone off, yeah, we had the EMF rub gone off, tripwire the whole time, and the rep holler off a few times.
- 4:13SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 4:13SPEAKER_05: So there was activity in there, um, no EVPs per se.
- 4:18SPEAKER_05: I mean, there were there might have been some.
- 4:20SPEAKER_05: I don't do the growls anymore.
- 4:22SPEAKER_05: I don't even put the git outs anymore unless it's really clear.
- 4:26SPEAKER_05: EVPs all the time.
- 4:27SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 4:29SPEAKER_05: So you guys were down in the grave room, right?
- 4:33SPEAKER_06: I believe so.
- 4:34SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so yeah, I wasn't there.
- 4:36SPEAKER_05: You you guys really don't get anything there either.
- 4:39SPEAKER_05: So grave room, never had anything there, personally.
- 4:45SPEAKER_06: That one time we went and it was you, me, Shadow, Nikki, Sarah, whatever it was that climbed up the wall behind Shadow and around.
- 4:56SPEAKER_06: I mean, it climbed, so but I haven't had anything like that since being there.
- 5:01SPEAKER_06: That first time was real intense.
- 5:04SPEAKER_05: The biggest issue with us right now, we're doing so many investigations, is like a shadow figure's just a shadow figure.
- 5:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah, right.
- 5:10SPEAKER_06: Like whatever.
- 5:12SPEAKER_05: You know, when you first start doing investigations, or even a new place, you're like, oh my god, a shadow figure.
- 5:16SPEAKER_05: And you're like, hey, wow, shadow.
- 5:19SPEAKER_06: You know, so over it that you fall asleep in the middle of the floor.
- 5:24SPEAKER_05: So I mean it was still a good investigation.
- 5:27SPEAKER_05: It did ramp up a little bit toward the end.
- 5:29SPEAKER_05: Uh we went up to the attic a little bit with Sammy, trying to recreate her.
- 5:35SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, yeah.
- 5:36SPEAKER_05: Um little what do you call it?
- 5:40SPEAKER_05: Incident.
- 5:41SPEAKER_05: Incident.
- 5:42SPEAKER_05: First time she was there, we got nothing.
- 5:44SPEAKER_05: I mean, you felt a little off for a little bit because I watched the video.
- 5:47SPEAKER_05: Um, Tegan had some stuff that happened to her.
- 5:51SPEAKER_05: So she sat down in a chair, girl came through the headphones, and she like I wasn't even filming yet.
- 5:56SPEAKER_06: Yeah, oh, did she really?
- 5:58SPEAKER_05: I usually fell on, she shot up and fell into the ground.
- 6:01SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
- 6:02SPEAKER_05: And then, you know, Tegan's pretty strong at that stuff, so she got back in the chair and she just couldn't do anything.
- 6:06SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 6:07SPEAKER_05: So but that's the only thing that really happened upstairs.
- 6:12SPEAKER_05: We are going to listen to some um when I'm listening to these nonstop.
- 6:19SPEAKER_05: I mean, I won't tell you right now it's 30 plus hours of recording so I could go through this whole trip.
- 6:26SPEAKER_06: That's why we're doing it now, and not it was like 16 hours of video, so it was a lot, but finally got done.
- 6:34SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 6:35SPEAKER_05: So this is the one EVP that I got.
- 6:39SPEAKER_05: Um, and I think we can set this up a little bit because we were still up in the big party.
- 6:46SPEAKER_05: I think we just got done with the spirit box, ghost box, and Mark and Daniel came up, and they went in the back.
- 6:54SPEAKER_05: I think this is when he saw her junior saw someone, peak someone, yeah.
- 6:57SPEAKER_05: Something on it in the back.
- 7:17SPEAKER_04: I know what it says.
- 7:23SPEAKER_05: Yeah, please go.
- 7:26SPEAKER_05: Again, this is what Mark and Danny wrote their knowledge.
- 7:29SPEAKER_05: They like to talk.
- 7:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 7:30SPEAKER_05: So perspective.
- 7:40SPEAKER_06: It sounds like it's a female.
- 7:43SPEAKER_06: It is a and it sounds like it's making fun of them for talking too much.
- 7:47SPEAKER_06: Get them out.
- 7:48SPEAKER_06: It's like something talk.
- 7:51SPEAKER_05: Get out.
- 7:54SPEAKER_05: Well, someone talk, so they will get out.
- 7:59SPEAKER_05: I'm not joking.
- 8:02SPEAKER_06: I think I do too.
- 8:13SPEAKER_06: That's funny.
- 8:17SPEAKER_06: That's pretty clear too.
- 8:20SPEAKER_05: I mean, again, this is I'm listening to this and I just started laughing because I'm listening to all before, like five minutes before, and they're just up there, blah blah blah blah blah.
- 8:30SPEAKER_06: Then this comes all how bad is it that the after like, Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up, basically.
- 8:36SPEAKER_05: That's I mean, I heard that and I played it for a couple of people at work.
- 8:40SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and that's how I decide.
- 8:41SPEAKER_05: I always say, Well, how do you decide it's a class A and P is can I hear the same thing somehow somebody tell them?
- 8:49SPEAKER_06: Yeah, absolutely.
- 8:49SPEAKER_06: So and the thing with that is that is that's straight communication with whatever spirits are else in the room.
- 9:00SPEAKER_06: That there that that that's a converse, there is a conversation going on on the other side of the veil, if you will.
- 9:06SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean it was intelligent.
- 9:08SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yes, obviously.
- 9:10SPEAKER_05: I mean, when someone talks, so they will get out.
- 9:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 9:12SPEAKER_05: So I mean, yeah.
- 9:15SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 9:17SPEAKER_05: But I mean, I think Madison isn't not much happened in Madison, so just trying to put something together.
- 9:22SPEAKER_05: There's some other stuff that I could not make out at all.
- 9:25SPEAKER_05: So I didn't put those.
- 9:28SPEAKER_05: But I mean, good investigation.
- 9:31SPEAKER_05: It's the first time Baja and Son got the deal without a huge crew.
- 9:36SPEAKER_05: They had a good time.
- 9:37SPEAKER_05: The bats there were ridiculous.
- 9:39SPEAKER_06: Were they?
- 9:40SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's good.
- 9:40SPEAKER_06: I get like the bats.
- 9:42SPEAKER_05: I got winged a few times.
- 9:44SPEAKER_06: You got winged.
- 9:45SPEAKER_05: I did.
- 9:45SPEAKER_05: So they were at the drum tank.
- 9:47SPEAKER_06: Yeah, okay.
- 9:48SPEAKER_05: And I was like staying back from them, yeah, filming them.
- 9:51SPEAKER_05: And I'm trying, I kept seeing something they're coming from the laundry room.
- 9:55SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, that would make sense.
- 9:56SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they're doors.
- 9:57SPEAKER_05: They're transfer through.
- 9:59SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 9:59SPEAKER_05: And two or three times were there winged.
- 10:03SPEAKER_05: I'm like, from the little tiny little.
- 10:06SPEAKER_05: And you know those burnout bats are like, get out of my way.
- 10:08SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you they're flying the tower, so buzzing the tower.
- 10:13SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
- 10:13SPEAKER_05: But again, that's one's good.
- 10:15SPEAKER_05: From there, we go home, got a few hours' sleep.
- 10:18SPEAKER_05: Well, you can uh we slept in T's room.
- 10:21SPEAKER_05: Junior slept on the couch.
- 10:22SPEAKER_05: I mean um but it was cool.
- 10:25SPEAKER_05: Junior got to go on a whole trip with us.
- 10:27SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 10:27SPEAKER_05: So he's still texting him about it all the time.
- 10:30SPEAKER_06: Does he really good?
- 10:31SPEAKER_06: I'm glad that yeah.
- 10:32SPEAKER_05: He had a good time.
- 10:33SPEAKER_05: Then we went to posttown.
- 10:36SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 10:37SPEAKER_05: Um, again, not much at posttown.
- 10:41SPEAKER_05: Some, but not a lot.
- 10:43SPEAKER_06: No, uh the cat that Craig saw.
- 10:46SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 10:47SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 10:51SPEAKER_05: Again, post town's a really cool place.
- 10:53SPEAKER_05: I definitely want to go back.
- 10:58SPEAKER_05: What happened?
- 11:02SPEAKER_05: The one room or the you?
- 11:04SPEAKER_05: We were up, I think it was the third floor.
- 11:07SPEAKER_02: In the hallway?
- 11:08SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 11:09SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we were in the hallway, but she went to that one room with all the shirts on.
- 11:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:13SPEAKER_05: And you thought something touched you or explanation.
- 11:22SPEAKER_06: I don't really remember the shirt in the mountain.
- 11:28SPEAKER_06: We don't pay the picture.
- 11:29SPEAKER_06: We're riveted by that.
- 11:31SPEAKER_06: Come down, Hemingway.
- 11:33SPEAKER_06: We need to leave some for us too.
- 11:35SPEAKER_05: So we were on the top floor.
- 11:38SPEAKER_05: And me and Junior were in the hallway with the in my trip up there, and she started walking through other rooms because not much was going on.
- 11:45SPEAKER_05: Trip rope here and there.
- 11:47SPEAKER_05: And then you screamed.
- 11:54SPEAKER_05: You you fluttered.
- 11:55SPEAKER_06: Yeah, flutter.
- 11:58SPEAKER_06: You made a sound of surprise.
- 12:00SPEAKER_06: How was that?
- 12:02SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 12:05SPEAKER_05: A fluttered gasp.
- 12:07SPEAKER_05: Okay, so we're making words up here.
- 12:13SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you said it felt like some touch or late.
- 12:15SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 12:16SPEAKER_06: So it was like lightly tapped.
- 12:18SPEAKER_05: Yeah, lightly tapped.
- 12:19SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 12:19SPEAKER_05: It was experience.
- 12:20SPEAKER_05: Obviously, nothing was on anything, but Okay.
- 12:24SPEAKER_05: Good experience.
- 12:26SPEAKER_05: That's what we're here for.
- 12:28SPEAKER_05: I was wondering if he no idea what it is.
- 12:32SPEAKER_05: I think we're in a stairwell.
- 13:13SPEAKER_06: Okay, okay.
- 13:15SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 13:16SPEAKER_06: But it was made something like it was almost taunting.
- 13:22SPEAKER_06: Like, like you said, make me or maybe, you know, you'll have to wait and see what I want to do.
- 13:26SPEAKER_05: So that's the only easy thing we got out of posttown.
- 13:31SPEAKER_05: Which is fine.
- 13:33SPEAKER_06: I mean, that's we didn't get anything down in the basement with me, you and Craig.
- 13:36SPEAKER_06: No.
- 13:37SPEAKER_06: Those kids, we heard them laughing down the we were in this room.
- 13:42SPEAKER_06: It was me, him, and Craig.
- 13:45SPEAKER_06: And we come down, and it was like a utility closet, basically, a storage room.
- 13:52SPEAKER_06: And around the corner was where the gym was.
- 13:55SPEAKER_06: That was the kitchen.
- 13:56SPEAKER_06: Oh, was it the kitchen?
- 13:58SPEAKER_06: Because I thought the kitchen was the other way.
- 14:01SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 14:02SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, you're right.
- 14:04SPEAKER_06: And you could literally hear what sounded like kids running and giggling.
- 14:10SPEAKER_06: And again, for anybody that hasn't watched before and listened, you guys all know what a skeptic Craig is.
- 14:16SPEAKER_06: Even he looked at me like that was a kid.
- 14:19SPEAKER_06: He said, We know.
- 14:22SPEAKER_06: I'm really shocked.
- 14:24SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, postdoc was interesting.
- 14:26SPEAKER_05: We did have some stuff.
- 14:27SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 14:28SPEAKER_05: Um Sammy broke on a shell a little bit when she did her live with Junior.
- 14:34unknown: Yeah.
- 14:35SPEAKER_05: Which I was very impressed with.
- 14:37SPEAKER_06: He did so good.
- 14:38SPEAKER_06: That's so bad.
- 14:38SPEAKER_05: Um he kind of got caught, you know, because you want a junior who does not talk.
- 14:47SPEAKER_05: Again, you had no choice, he did a very good job.
- 14:49SPEAKER_05: He asked the right questions, she has been out of the gym.
- 14:53SPEAKER_05: Um, so yeah, Craig did a solo, it's up on YouTube if you want to watch it.
- 14:57SPEAKER_05: It's a good one, it was a good one, and then he found a couple rooms that fell off.
- 15:03SPEAKER_05: Yes.
- 15:04SPEAKER_05: So I ended up going down there solo, yes, yeah, and I heard the kids.
- 15:08SPEAKER_05: And to be honest, I didn't even want to go in this room, it felt bad right from the get-go.
- 15:12SPEAKER_05: But you know, you kind of force yourself to go in, and then heard kids going, it still felt off, no EVPs there.
- 15:20SPEAKER_05: So, but when I heard the kids talking and playing, I'm like texting Mark and everybody like someone come down, so I'm not going crazy.
- 15:30SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 15:31SPEAKER_05: Then I saw their flashlight all the way up the stairs, I'm walking through the cafeter and getting them to come down.
- 15:37SPEAKER_05: That's when we had the same experience in kids.
- 15:39SPEAKER_05: Then later, I think it's just the guys that didn't.
- 15:42SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 15:45SPEAKER_05: So that was interesting.
- 15:46SPEAKER_05: Like I did the Estus method, I'm sitting there blindfolded, had a rope around me.
- 15:53SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 15:54SPEAKER_05: And it felt like someone was pushing against me the whole time on this side.
- 16:00SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 16:01SPEAKER_05: So I'm only going like this, and I kept pushing back, and it was like freezing cold by my legs.
- 16:08SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 16:08SPEAKER_05: So I felt like something was right there.
- 16:10SPEAKER_05: And I was bringing some stuff out that's this.
- 16:14SPEAKER_05: And at first I was like, it's kind of like mocking, but just a little boy.
- 16:21SPEAKER_05: Sorry.
- 16:22SPEAKER_05: It actually came over your a vagina.
- 16:27SPEAKER_05: Now, thinking about it, but thinking about elementary kids.
- 16:32SPEAKER_06: I I was gonna say that is a very typical boy kind of in elementary school.
- 16:39SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, I mean, and I'm like, what the like at first, I'm like, what like you just got made photo by a ghost.
- 16:50SPEAKER_05: But something was definitely down there.
- 16:52SPEAKER_05: Um they kept saying, Are you touching Ryan's left leg?
- 16:54SPEAKER_05: Of course I didn't hear this till I watched the video.
- 16:56SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and the lights were going off just on the left side.
- 16:59SPEAKER_05: On the left side, okay.
- 17:00SPEAKER_05: Interesting place, want to go back.
- 17:02SPEAKER_05: Daryl's awesome, the owner down there.
- 17:04SPEAKER_05: Oh, sweetheart, absolute sweetheart of a man.
- 17:07SPEAKER_05: So if we ever get a chance, go down a close town close town.
- 17:09SPEAKER_05: We will be heading back there sooner or later.
- 17:12SPEAKER_05: Sounds good to me.
- 17:12SPEAKER_05: Oh, wait, I might have another way.
- 17:15SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, the third floor close down.
- 17:19SPEAKER_06: I didn't know that you were called vagina.
- 17:23SPEAKER_05: It's like you're a vagina.
- 17:25SPEAKER_05: Of course, I'm like, I want to see this.
- 17:31SPEAKER_06: You're like you said, it is perfectly a little kid insult, you know, a little a boy in elementary school.
- 17:59SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 18:00SPEAKER_05: I mean, I don't know what we're talking about.
- 18:02SPEAKER_05: Again, just throwing crap together.
- 18:05SPEAKER_05: So that is not you guys.
- 18:07SPEAKER_05: No, it wasn't us.
- 18:08SPEAKER_05: Oh check it out.
- 18:09SPEAKER_05: So post town.
- 18:14SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 18:14SPEAKER_06: Four in the morning.
- 18:15SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 18:15SPEAKER_05: Then we went to that.
- 18:18SPEAKER_06: The tornado sirens went off.
- 18:22SPEAKER_05: Um, woke up, Daryl was driving around his golf cart.
- 18:27SPEAKER_05: I was like, hey, there's like a tornado morning.
- 18:29SPEAKER_05: He's like, well, that doesn't happen until seven tonight.
- 18:32SPEAKER_05: So I don't know why they're doing that.
- 18:33SPEAKER_05: So I guess Daryl knows.
- 18:35SPEAKER_05: But but I mean, great, let us back in the building, yeah, you know, to wash up whatever we can do because our shower wasn't working.
- 18:43SPEAKER_05: So yeah, we weren't too stinky by then.
- 18:45SPEAKER_05: No, thank god.
- 18:46SPEAKER_05: We were getting there because it was hot out.
- 18:48SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 18:49SPEAKER_05: So Coast Town we went to, or not spawn dolls, though.
- 18:53SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 18:53SPEAKER_05: So West Virginia, another great place.
- 18:56SPEAKER_05: Um, that's Tanya and Charlie owned that place.
- 18:59SPEAKER_05: We met Charlie down there, and he was very welcoming.
- 19:02SPEAKER_05: Yes, very welcoming.
- 19:04SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 19:04SPEAKER_05: Um, supposed to be on a podcast the other day, but Charlie got sick, so we're gonna reschedule that with Tanya and Charlie.
- 19:12unknown: Perfect.
- 19:12SPEAKER_05: So that should be the good one.
- 19:14SPEAKER_05: Uh old hospital on fourth floor.
- 19:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 19:18SPEAKER_05: Um, I think this is me and Beth up there in the beginning.
- 19:23SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay, yeah.
- 19:25SPEAKER_05: Or it might be one office went there.
- 19:26SPEAKER_05: We're gonna find out.
- 19:30SPEAKER_04: You can do a red and run, within the hall.
- 19:53SPEAKER_06: Yeah, there was it was like a a sigh.
- 19:56SPEAKER_05: Sigh, there's something right there.
- 19:57SPEAKER_06: Okay, play it again.
- 20:03SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 20:05SPEAKER_04: Is that anything?
- 20:07SPEAKER_06: And if being in a hospital, if you were in pain and they gave you some sort of a medication, oh right there, that's better.
- 20:15SPEAKER_06: Move it something, okay.
- 20:17SPEAKER_06: Right there.
- 20:18SPEAKER_05: So cool.
- 20:21SPEAKER_06: And Craig and I were in the hallway on I think it was the second floor, and we were all the way in the back hallway, and everybody was below us.
- 20:32SPEAKER_06: And as we're sitting there, you could hear footsteps and what sounded like a gurney go down the hallway.
- 20:38SPEAKER_06: And even he heard it, and he goes, There's no one above us, right?
- 20:42SPEAKER_06: He said, No, everybody's downstairs, and you could hear a pushing of a gurney down the hallway.
- 20:48SPEAKER_05: I'm very interested in when I want to go back down there because we didn't get much.
- 20:53SPEAKER_05: I want to go back down when they get the nursing job done.
- 20:56SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
- 20:57SPEAKER_05: Which should be attached by the tunnel.
- 20:59SPEAKER_05: Oh, geez.
- 21:02SPEAKER_05: It's supposed to be a tunnel that goes to the other side, yeah.
- 21:06SPEAKER_05: So definitely go down there when it'd be four.
- 21:10SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's too bad of a drive.
- 21:13SPEAKER_05: No, as bad as Jamaica at all.
- 21:17SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna take your car so you can drive a little bit.
- 21:24SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 21:26SPEAKER_06: She's a passenger princess, you leave her alone.
- 21:28SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 21:29SPEAKER_05: I told Rachel, it's like six and a half hours.
- 21:31SPEAKER_05: Sam says she'll go.
- 21:32SPEAKER_05: She's like, oh yeah, Sam doesn't come like she's gonna sleep the whole time.
- 21:38SPEAKER_05: But we're doing that verona, so that should be good.
- 21:41SPEAKER_05: Um so not much at hospital.
- 21:46SPEAKER_05: But yeah, you guys had more feelings, I think, during a tour.
- 21:50SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
- 21:51SPEAKER_05: I did not do the tour and I went in, we really got nothing.
- 21:56SPEAKER_05: When I went back up to the second floor, that one room felt really bad.
- 22:00SPEAKER_05: No EVPs, no nothing.
- 22:02SPEAKER_06: That was just were you up in the operating room with us?
- 22:06SPEAKER_06: Where the rope kept going off.
- 22:08SPEAKER_06: So where there's the operating room and then there's a recovery room.
- 22:13SPEAKER_06: And the rope would go off this way into the operating room and then come off.
- 22:18SPEAKER_06: And it was almost like a residual of you would come out of the operating room, go into recovery, and then you'd go back in there.
- 22:24SPEAKER_06: And so we had that, and it happened three or four times that you could see it go back and forth.
- 22:30SPEAKER_06: Yeah, right.
- 22:30SPEAKER_05: So we did I didn't have one thing I happen to talk about change shadow and not carrying anymore.
- 22:37SPEAKER_05: Again, hard to believe because I have no evidence of it.
- 22:41SPEAKER_05: But when we were up there, just Beth and I were in a big room on the fourth floor.
- 22:45SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 22:46SPEAKER_05: And the rope kept going off.
- 22:48SPEAKER_05: We asked, you know, do you want Beth to stay in here?
- 22:50SPEAKER_05: Do you want me to leave?
- 22:51SPEAKER_05: And it went off.
- 22:52SPEAKER_05: So I'm like, I'll leave.
- 22:53SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 22:53SPEAKER_05: So I walked out to the end in the other two hallways.
- 22:56SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 22:56SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 22:56SPEAKER_05: And they look pretty dark.
- 22:58SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 22:58SPEAKER_05: The one you're going this way, the one to the left seemed uh where I did the estes.
- 23:03SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 23:03SPEAKER_05: Seemed a lot darker.
- 23:04SPEAKER_05: I've been out of the month.
- 23:05SPEAKER_05: So I stepped around the pot and then I had my little wand, you know, and did a little Harry Potter stuff, you know.
- 23:13SPEAKER_05: And uh you know, just looking down the hallways, I went to the left, and it looked like a mist just came right at me.
- 23:22SPEAKER_06: Oh, I remember you talking about that.
- 23:24SPEAKER_05: And I was like Harry Potter.
- 23:27SPEAKER_05: I was like throwing out patronises.
- 23:31SPEAKER_05: Trying to get the AMF going because it looked like it was charging right.
- 23:34SPEAKER_05: Right at you.
- 23:35SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 23:35SPEAKER_05: But again, I don't really care.
- 23:38SPEAKER_05: I mean it just seems like whatever.
- 23:41SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 23:42SPEAKER_05: Like next time I'll have a camera, you know.
- 23:45SPEAKER_06: Get GoPros for all of us, so we just have them on at all times.
- 23:48SPEAKER_05: Um, I've been looking at those GoPros or other ones.
- 23:52SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 23:53SPEAKER_05: There's body cameras now, so I can't see my GoPro.
- 23:56SPEAKER_05: Well, let's do it.
- 23:56SPEAKER_05: There's more video for me to go over stuff, especially if I'm running it.
- 24:02SPEAKER_06: We won't talk about your camera abilities.
- 24:06SPEAKER_06: My camera abilities are garbage, and I will be the first to admit it.
- 24:10SPEAKER_06: But I try, and that's what counts.
- 24:13SPEAKER_05: So we'll talk about Aaron's camera abilities.
- 24:18SPEAKER_05: So I get two SD cards from Aaron's cameras, and that's big trick.
- 24:23SPEAKER_05: There's a total of maybe 45 seconds.
- 24:28SPEAKER_05: He likes to hit the picture button instead of the color button.
- 24:32SPEAKER_05: I just have all these pictures.
- 24:35SPEAKER_05: They're supposed to be video.
- 24:42SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 24:44SPEAKER_05: And I think the 40 seconds of video was in post-town break room.
- 24:50SPEAKER_06: Oh no.
- 24:51SPEAKER_05: Of just talking.
- 24:54SPEAKER_06: So sorry.
- 24:55SPEAKER_05: The camera at the table.
- 24:57SPEAKER_06: Well, remember, I couldn't get it to work.
- 25:01SPEAKER_06: Remember how it wouldn't load, so I blame the ghosts.
- 25:05SPEAKER_05: That was fine.
- 25:08SPEAKER_05: Okay, you guys did cart back to Craig and said, never hand these to me again.
- 25:14SPEAKER_06: Sorry, Ryan.
- 25:15SPEAKER_05: No, it's okay.
- 25:16SPEAKER_06: It's the two-hour audio recording from the attic.
- 25:19unknown: Yeah.
- 25:20SPEAKER_05: Well, I didn't have mine.
- 25:21SPEAKER_05: Remember, I left my recording post on it?
- 25:23SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 25:26SPEAKER_06: I picked it up.
- 25:27SPEAKER_06: I was like, oh, is this yours?
- 25:28SPEAKER_06: I'm like, oh yeah.
- 25:30SPEAKER_05: You know, I went for searching for it.
- 25:32SPEAKER_05: I didn't find it.
- 25:34SPEAKER_05: That's my baby.
- 25:36SPEAKER_05: That recorder I've had for 20 years, and that's my go-to.
- 25:40SPEAKER_05: We found it.
- 25:42SPEAKER_05: But yeah, it was cool.
- 25:43SPEAKER_05: So I got post alcohol, took a little map, talked.
- 25:48SPEAKER_05: Oh, this was old hospital.
- 25:49SPEAKER_05: So old hospital cool.
- 25:51SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 25:51SPEAKER_05: That's where I left my recorder.
- 25:53SPEAKER_05: From there, we went to Bellar House.
- 25:55unknown: Yeah.
- 25:56SPEAKER_06: We tried bringing a dog home with us.
- 25:58SPEAKER_05: Did you?
- 25:59SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 25:59SPEAKER_06: Remember the dog?
- 26:01SPEAKER_05: You and Sarah.
- 26:02SPEAKER_05: Did you remember the dog?
- 26:03SPEAKER_05: Nick, you're trying to get a reccount.
- 26:04SPEAKER_05: Um yeah.
- 26:06unknown: Okay.
- 26:08SPEAKER_05: You were in the oh my god.
- 26:09SPEAKER_05: You were in the car.
- 26:12SPEAKER_06: Oh no.
- 26:13SPEAKER_05: No, you weren't.
- 26:14SPEAKER_05: So we kind of had a little break.
- 26:16SPEAKER_05: We went to uh a campground.
- 26:18SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 26:18SPEAKER_05: Got some good sleep.
- 26:20SPEAKER_05: Showered.
- 26:20SPEAKER_05: Showered.
- 26:21SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 26:22SPEAKER_05: We showered at the hospital.
- 26:24SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 26:25SPEAKER_05: We finally got the water hooked up.
- 26:26SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 26:26SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 26:26SPEAKER_05: So then we got shower at the campground.
- 26:31SPEAKER_05: Sammy left for like three hours.
- 26:34SPEAKER_03: It was not that long.
- 26:37SPEAKER_05: Um but no, it was it was good to have a little break.
- 26:41SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 26:41SPEAKER_05: Um, even though we did it back to back, it was good to sit there.
- 26:44SPEAKER_05: Just because of it being so close to where we needed to go those two nights, it it made perfect sense.
- 26:49SPEAKER_05: So Bel Air, we had Sarah come down, Shadow and Nikki come down, um, join us.
- 26:58SPEAKER_05: Um Daniel came down too.
- 27:00SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I was gonna say Daniel's there because I don't know if we had too many people there.
- 27:05SPEAKER_05: There was a lot, yeah.
- 27:06SPEAKER_05: Um which is fine because we all want the experience.
- 27:09SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 27:09SPEAKER_05: Um, from our first experience, this experience low disappointment.
- 27:13SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
- 27:14SPEAKER_05: I mean, we were expecting high expectations, you know, shadow people did not happen, which is fine.
- 27:20SPEAKER_05: I mean, Valerie's still dark.
- 27:22SPEAKER_06: Didn't you lose your soul?
- 27:24SPEAKER_05: I got that on there.
- 27:26SPEAKER_05: But how about your it's we're we're in called soul, Aaron.
- 27:32SPEAKER_05: I mean I was doing good.
- 27:35SPEAKER_05: You went to one room, okay.
- 27:37SPEAKER_05: Two.
- 27:39SPEAKER_02: Shut up.
- 27:40SPEAKER_02: I did it.
- 27:43SPEAKER_05: Um that was funny because I push people to do solos all the time.
- 27:48SPEAKER_05: Um sent Aaron in there because she wanted to face her fears a little bit because she was mad last time.
- 27:55SPEAKER_05: Then she realized it was probably a bad idea when she got in there.
- 27:58SPEAKER_05: So absolutely.
- 28:00SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
- 28:00SPEAKER_05: So she got to the living room, and that was it.
- 28:03SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 28:04SPEAKER_05: And so I sent Sarah in there, figured pushed them maybe upstairs.
- 28:09SPEAKER_05: That didn't work either.
- 28:11SPEAKER_06: Um it was the blind leading the blind at that point.
- 28:15SPEAKER_06: He sent two really ADHD people into that expecting them to do something.
- 28:22SPEAKER_06: But I mean, you did go in there.
- 28:25SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 28:25SPEAKER_06: On my own.
- 28:26SPEAKER_05: On your own.
- 28:27SPEAKER_05: So they gave me a proud for that.
- 28:29SPEAKER_06: There was some some shadow figures when I went in.
- 28:32SPEAKER_06: So we I did see the thing on the steps, and then around the corner from where the living room was into the kitchen.
- 28:39SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 28:41SPEAKER_05: So we all walked in there and then we me and Ric went down to the basement trying to get something.
- 28:47SPEAKER_05: Nothing happened out there.
- 28:49SPEAKER_05: Uh it did feel like an ice pick on my back at one point.
- 28:52SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 28:59SPEAKER_05: It was just my back.
- 29:00SPEAKER_05: Started burning, like felt something just bulking me to the back.
- 29:02SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 29:03SPEAKER_05: But nothing else really happened.
- 29:06SPEAKER_05: Any of your experiences that stand out or not stand out.
- 29:10SPEAKER_06: I mean, after what happened to me last time there, it was way more quiet.
- 29:16SPEAKER_06: And I don't know if it was like you said, oh, too many people, or if they were just like it just wasn't on, you know, it wasn't happening.
- 29:30SPEAKER_05: Multiple things, too many people, yeah.
- 29:32SPEAKER_05: High expectations.
- 29:33SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 29:34SPEAKER_05: Um, that's what we were looking forward to the whole time.
- 29:36SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 29:37SPEAKER_05: And then yeah, maybe they just went on.
- 29:40SPEAKER_06: Yeah, right.
- 29:41SPEAKER_06: Again, you can't make them, they're not circus performers, they're not monkeys, so but I mean it was cool.
- 29:47SPEAKER_05: I mean, we did around the seance table for a while.
- 29:51SPEAKER_05: My cameras kept shutting them out.
- 29:53SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:54SPEAKER_05: Um kept lighting up by Sarah.
- 29:56SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they liked Sarah.
- 29:59SPEAKER_05: We had some stuff in the attic that would happen, not much.
- 30:04SPEAKER_05: But anything from Rosshouse's oh, I didn't.
- 30:08SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the Ross House.
- 30:11SPEAKER_05: Dollar basement.
- 30:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 30:13SPEAKER_05: I think this is all my stuff.
- 30:17SPEAKER_05: Um, I did make a video of all this um on YouTube.
- 30:23SPEAKER_05: Do you want your soul?
- 30:27SPEAKER_05: Actually pretty good video.
- 30:29SPEAKER_05: Um we had no video of it.
- 30:31SPEAKER_05: I think you have it on your phone.
- 30:35SPEAKER_05: But I just made a little clip of it.
- 30:37SPEAKER_05: Me talking.
- 30:40SPEAKER_05: But we'll play that.
- 31:22SPEAKER_05: I heard sorry.
- 31:24SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 31:25SPEAKER_06: It was a it was a woman or a child.
- 31:41SPEAKER_05: We'll just play this through.
- 31:48SPEAKER_05: So this was right from the getting.
- 31:50SPEAKER_05: I was talking crap.
- 31:52SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you were.
- 31:57SPEAKER_05: So I found a mirror.
- 32:02SPEAKER_05: So I've seen it happen.
- 32:03SPEAKER_05: I think Ghost Sisters did it once, and so I was like, nothing was happening.
- 32:08SPEAKER_05: I saw this mirror on the ground, so I'm like, Here, and I said, You get stare at a mirror and see someone stole it or whatever.
- 32:16SPEAKER_05: She's like, Yeah, probably like sweet, I got a mirror right here.
- 32:19SPEAKER_06: Was not happy.
- 32:21SPEAKER_05: But we think it's an action.
- 32:24SPEAKER_05: Um, so I'm taunting it.
- 32:26SPEAKER_05: I'm still I don't think I was taunting, I was just staring at it.
- 32:30SPEAKER_05: There was taunting involved.
- 32:31SPEAKER_05: Was there?
- 32:32SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there was.
- 32:33SPEAKER_05: Well mainly I was staring.
- 32:36SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you just kept asking it to show itself.
- 32:38SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 32:39unknown: Yeah.
- 32:40SPEAKER_05: So I'm asking to show itself, and right from the get go here, you'll hear what it says.
- 34:25SPEAKER_05: I've been happier since I was trying to use so God.
- 34:38SPEAKER_05: Got a rather soul.
- 34:39SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it'd be well-graded.
- 34:41SPEAKER_06: Hey, ATT upgrade, you may even have to pay extra for it.
- 34:45SPEAKER_05: Also, I mean that was interesting.
- 34:48SPEAKER_05: You know, we were getting direct responses.
- 34:50SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 34:50SPEAKER_05: You know, do you want your soul?
- 34:53SPEAKER_05: This ain't probably, you know, a female coming out.
- 34:57SPEAKER_05: I guess I wasn't supposed to be doing that.
- 34:59SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 35:00SPEAKER_05: It could be the sister that he's trying to summon, telling me to stop.
- 35:07SPEAKER_06: Whatever's down there, it I don't know if it's human though.
- 35:13SPEAKER_06: I don't think it's dark.
- 35:14SPEAKER_05: I don't think it's demonic, it's more just an entity.
- 35:18SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 35:18SPEAKER_06: Almost elemental light, if anything, yeah.
- 35:21SPEAKER_05: But it's odd because usually like that type of stuff stays in the basement.
- 35:25SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 35:26SPEAKER_05: And nothing else goes down there.
- 35:28SPEAKER_06: There is a delineation of what goes aware in that house, yeah.
- 35:32SPEAKER_05: But nothing usually goes.
- 35:33SPEAKER_05: Like most basements when you have something dark, it stays in it.
- 35:36SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 35:37SPEAKER_05: And nothing else goes down there.
- 35:39SPEAKER_05: But we had a female come across.
- 35:41SPEAKER_05: So maybe they're starting to cross a little bit.
- 35:44SPEAKER_05: Maybe they're starting to take the house back over.
- 35:46SPEAKER_06: It could be.
- 35:47SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
- 35:47SPEAKER_06: And the other thing could be the amount of people that are now going into the those houses because it's you know, there's more and more who's moving what, who is bringing what to as well.
- 35:58SPEAKER_05: So yeah, and plus, I mean, Bellar is one of the few places that people go in and never go back.
- 36:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 36:06SPEAKER_05: Um for reason.
- 36:08SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 36:08SPEAKER_05: You're there to get evidence as a paranormal.
- 36:11SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 36:12SPEAKER_05: I mean, yeah, I don't think you're gonna get attachment or anything, but whatever.
- 36:17SPEAKER_05: Uh besides that, we had some stuff on the second floor, some stuff in the editing.
- 36:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 36:25SPEAKER_06: Um nothing, nothing that stood out for us.
- 36:30SPEAKER_06: No, it was like we said, it was not like anything that it was the first time, and it was a lot.
- 36:39SPEAKER_06: It it was the first time it was boom, boom, boom.
- 36:41SPEAKER_06: Every time you would say something or do something, it was right there.
- 36:44SPEAKER_06: You were waiting for a very long time for anything to respond or come back through.
- 36:50SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 36:51SPEAKER_05: So, but it's still a good investigation.
- 36:54SPEAKER_05: So always good to go back and try to find some answers, but we didn't.
- 36:59SPEAKER_06: And you can change up how you're doing it too, which is always good.
- 37:04SPEAKER_05: And then went back to the campground, yeah, got a little shut-eye, ate some breakfast for once, showered again.
- 37:12SPEAKER_05: We didn't have pizza for the first time.
- 37:14SPEAKER_05: Well, we did it later, yeah.
- 37:17SPEAKER_05: Um then we went to the Ross house.
- 37:20SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 37:21SPEAKER_05: So we had Glick Paranormal come with us, meet us there.
- 37:25SPEAKER_05: Um they talked to her after.
- 37:28SPEAKER_05: Felt bad because they're expecting to do a little more with us, yeah.
- 37:32SPEAKER_05: But you know, they also understood that we were beat down.
- 37:36SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
- 37:37SPEAKER_05: I mean, we were we were cashed out by then.
- 37:40SPEAKER_05: Um yeah, that was rough.
- 37:42SPEAKER_05: It was the end of the trip.
- 37:44SPEAKER_05: But antique store did not disappoint.
- 37:46SPEAKER_05: Nope.
- 37:47SPEAKER_05: Um did not.
- 37:49SPEAKER_05: Ross House.
- 37:50SPEAKER_05: I never really did anything in Ross House from the one shadow figure the first time I was at maybe some EMF hits.
- 37:58SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 37:59SPEAKER_05: But not much, still a cool place to go.
- 38:01SPEAKER_05: I know a lot of people do have fun action there.
- 38:03SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's just the two times we were there, not much.
- 38:06SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 38:07SPEAKER_05: Uh, we spent the majority of our time in the antique store.
- 38:10SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 38:11SPEAKER_05: Um, if you ever go down Rep Day Antique Store, yeah.
- 38:14SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 38:15SPEAKER_05: It's a couple hundred bucks extra.
- 38:19SPEAKER_05: Um glad I did it.
- 38:20SPEAKER_05: That was my treat to the group for putting up with me for five days.
- 38:25SPEAKER_05: Um, but no, it was it was a cool experience.
- 38:28SPEAKER_05: Um again, Cindy, great.
- 38:31SPEAKER_05: Oh, I love her, she's uh awesome.
- 38:33SPEAKER_05: She was great on the podcast, we had a good time, but it's hard talking.
- 38:38SPEAKER_05: Yeah, with her at pocket.
- 38:40SPEAKER_05: I know we we talked so much, we emailed each other a few times.
- 38:44SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but it was still a good podcast, got to know her a little better.
- 38:49SPEAKER_05: But Ross House itself without the antique store or anything.
- 38:56SPEAKER_06: Not really.
- 38:57SPEAKER_06: I mean, we were up in the one bedroom, but there wasn't really much going on there, and that's when we went over to the antique store.
- 39:05SPEAKER_06: Again, it could be too many people, right?
- 39:07SPEAKER_06: Because it's not Ross is not big, no, it's not big.
- 39:10SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so maybe next time like three or four people, yeah.
- 39:13SPEAKER_05: That's it.
- 39:14SPEAKER_05: So but definitely we'll go back.
- 39:16SPEAKER_05: I was trying to get the antique store by itself.
- 39:19SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we won't do that.
- 39:21SPEAKER_05: We'll have to rent both again.
- 39:23SPEAKER_05: Oh well.
- 39:24SPEAKER_05: We'll do it.
- 39:25SPEAKER_05: So antique store, we went down there.
- 39:27SPEAKER_05: It was me, you, Mark, and Junior went down first to the basement.
- 39:33SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
- 39:35SPEAKER_05: So wanna hear we'll we'll set it up so there's a tunnel.
- 39:40SPEAKER_05: There used to be a tunnel down there for the underground railroad, so we decided to go try that out.
- 39:45SPEAKER_05: Um no EVPs down there.
- 39:49SPEAKER_05: No EVPs down there.
- 39:51SPEAKER_05: That's why I made a list, but uh you had some experiences down there.
- 39:56SPEAKER_06: That's when everybody was down there.
- 40:00SPEAKER_06: Like what?
- 40:00SPEAKER_05: Weren't maybe the shirt tug?
- 40:03SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, yeah.
- 40:05SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it just kind of felt like something was pulling on the shirt.
- 40:08SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 40:09SPEAKER_05: There's supposed to be three kids down there from slaves, yeah.
- 40:12SPEAKER_05: Um some side get picked up on, yeah, you know, last year or whatever.
- 40:16SPEAKER_05: So Sammy was sitting down there and kind of felt like someone like maybe a little kid.
- 40:20SPEAKER_05: Yeah, shirt, yeah.
- 40:23SPEAKER_05: So after all that happened, I wanted to send Aaron and Sammy down.
- 40:28SPEAKER_05: We weren't down there, so like they had another event.
- 40:33SPEAKER_06: We had a lot more activity with the rope and the cat balls, and what we kind of came up with was they don't like men down there, and they liked having us down there.
- 40:49SPEAKER_06: It was it was definitely more calm when you and I were down there by ourselves, and you didn't there wasn't a feeling of fear, there wasn't like anger or anything down there, and then you guys came down.
- 41:02SPEAKER_05: We came down, yeah.
- 41:04SPEAKER_05: And I'll try to city that too.
- 41:06SPEAKER_05: Like it was peaceful the first few times we were down there, then we went down the third time, yeah.
- 41:12SPEAKER_05: And it kind of seemed like yeah, those kids might have been there, yeah, but something something else, yeah.
- 41:20SPEAKER_05: Something else came in, like a meltdown.
- 41:22SPEAKER_03: Yep, mm-hmm.
- 41:23SPEAKER_05: Absolutely, you know, these are slaves, you can't be talking to them.
- 41:27SPEAKER_05: Yep, yeah.
- 41:28SPEAKER_05: Or why are you trying to help them?
- 41:29SPEAKER_05: Because we're like, hey, you're free now.
- 41:31SPEAKER_05: Yep, go and it kind of seemed it affected you, yeah.
- 41:35SPEAKER_05: Um to the point where I had to get you out of there, yeah.
- 41:39SPEAKER_05: And we did have a little talk about that because you have to leave while you're feeling that way.
- 41:46SPEAKER_06: Don't try to be tough about it.
- 41:50SPEAKER_06: Be tough about it.
- 41:51SPEAKER_06: No, but but being there, I mean, just listening to the anchor that I was getting through to Estes, it was it was violent, it was very violent, very nasty.
- 42:00SPEAKER_06: It scared me, and that's when I ripped off my headphones and I looked over at you and you're in tears, and I was like, oh no, not on Auntie's watch.
- 42:09SPEAKER_06: Let's go.
- 42:10SPEAKER_05: So I mean, you didn't have any marks on your back or anything.
- 42:12SPEAKER_05: I think there's one little red mark.
- 42:15SPEAKER_06: Well, when we back went back into the um RV, she had the mark on her back.
- 42:20SPEAKER_05: So, I mean, experience.
- 42:24SPEAKER_05: I guess we chop it up for that.
- 42:26SPEAKER_05: Um, learning experience.
- 42:28SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, there's difference when you're getting like noises and dark feelings, but when you're starting to feel mentally drained, yeah, get out of there.
- 42:36SPEAKER_05: That's not worth it.
- 42:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 42:38SPEAKER_05: Um you got what you wanted in experience.
- 42:43SPEAKER_05: It is amazing how the people we talked about before just leave that area or going outside the house, how many people change.
- 42:50SPEAKER_05: So um, then we did a before we went down our glass, we did a table room.
- 42:58SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
- 42:59SPEAKER_05: So I did that's on two different sides.
- 43:01SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right, right.
- 43:02SPEAKER_05: Um, but one time I had my hand on the table, the first part, it did feel like someone's walking around.
- 43:08SPEAKER_05: I do have an EVP on this.
- 43:11SPEAKER_06: Was that when Craig was out there?
- 43:13SPEAKER_05: No, I was.
- 43:15SPEAKER_05: Craig went to the other side.
- 43:18SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 43:18SPEAKER_05: When I switched sides, okay, yeah.
- 43:20SPEAKER_05: Put his hand on the table, see when he was walking around.
- 43:22SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 43:23SPEAKER_06: Because there was a lot when you and I were in there when Craig was in the corner and we put the rope around him, we were talking about the Italians, and you could just see it walk around him back and forth.
- 43:35SPEAKER_05: Again, I mean, it's all lessons learned watching the videos.
- 43:38SPEAKER_05: Like, engineer has never really done investigations before.
- 43:42SPEAKER_05: And yeah, Mark, who's new, new were compared to most of us, like you gotta breathe a little bit, right?
- 43:50SPEAKER_05: The spirit stock, and don't move so much because especially old building, you don't feel everything.
- 43:56SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right, right.
- 43:57SPEAKER_05: This is when I was doing this this.
- 44:00SPEAKER_04: Let's see if it's happening here.
- 44:01SPEAKER_04: It should just be AVP so wow.
- 44:09SPEAKER_06: They're scared.
- 44:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 44:12SPEAKER_06: I was.
- 44:12SPEAKER_06: I was.
- 44:13SPEAKER_06: I don't know about you guys, but I was.
- 44:15SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I mean, we'll just go back a little bit, see what we're talking about here.
- 44:29SPEAKER_06: What is that thing?
- 44:32SPEAKER_06: It's on like a bulb being like click.
- 44:35SPEAKER_05: Because I think Junior is trying to turn the light off.
- 44:37SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
- 44:38SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 44:38SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 44:39SPEAKER_05: He was asking that light in the bag.
- 44:41SPEAKER_06: Oh, yes.
- 44:41SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 44:42SPEAKER_05: Okay, but it's Junior and he's not coordinated.
- 44:45SPEAKER_06: They're scared.
- 44:46SPEAKER_06: Man, wow, they just called us out left and right on this trip.
- 44:51SPEAKER_05: No, it was pretty good EVB though.
- 44:53SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 44:56SPEAKER_04: These two, I think, go together.
- 45:04SPEAKER_04: What's your name?
- 45:06SPEAKER_04: Jamie.
- 45:10SPEAKER_05: That was clear.
- 45:11SPEAKER_05: Jamie.
- 45:12SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we got a name.
- 45:13SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's cool.
- 45:14SPEAKER_05: I have to do about during our podcast.
- 45:16SPEAKER_05: She has not heard the name Jamie before, but it's clear.
- 45:19SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's that I mean.
- 45:22SPEAKER_04: We'll play it one more time.
- 45:28SPEAKER_04: What's your name?
- 45:30SPEAKER_04: It's J it's Jamie.
- 45:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 45:34SPEAKER_05: Good catch.
- 45:35SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 45:38SPEAKER_05: No idea what this is.
- 45:40SPEAKER_04: That's normal.
- 45:47SPEAKER_04: You like with a town as we count?
- 45:49SPEAKER_04: I hope so.
- 45:57SPEAKER_04: You like with a town as we count?
- 45:59SPEAKER_04: I hope so, or something hope so.
- 46:02SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 46:06SPEAKER_05: No, it's it's not anybody from our group.
- 46:09SPEAKER_05: No.
- 46:10SPEAKER_05: Because you can see on the waves, that's great talking.
- 46:12SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 46:13SPEAKER_05: Then you'll see.
- 46:14SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
- 46:19SPEAKER_04: You like what the town is becoming?
- 46:22SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and that's a different tone and voice, yeah.
- 46:25SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 46:26SPEAKER_05: So I mean that's why I use this program because even get something back on it, yeah, it does not show any marks.
- 46:32SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 46:32SPEAKER_05: So those are pretty decent.
- 46:37SPEAKER_05: Pretty decent from uh you know table room.
- 46:39SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 46:40SPEAKER_05: Um Cindy says they began a lot of activity in there.
- 46:42SPEAKER_05: So yeah.
- 46:44SPEAKER_05: It's uh definitely worth the trip going back.
- 46:46SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
- 46:48SPEAKER_05: You'll love Cindy if anything, honestly.
- 46:51SPEAKER_05: That's what I told her during the podcast.
- 46:53SPEAKER_05: I'm like, you know, I'm like, I don't want any tours, and I say I know 50 minutes later we're still talking.
- 46:58SPEAKER_05: I know.
- 46:59SPEAKER_05: Well, she just loves talking to these.
- 47:01SPEAKER_05: She does.
- 47:02SPEAKER_05: Um, she's trying to do a lot more down there with tours and stuff.
- 47:04SPEAKER_05: Good.
- 47:05unknown: Yeah.
- 47:08SPEAKER_05: Again, that that is our trip.
- 47:10SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 47:10SPEAKER_06: That was uh that, like you said, it tried us mentally, physically, because I mean how tired we were by the end.
- 47:19SPEAKER_06: Um there was probably more that happened, but we were just so tapped at that point that we're like, like you said, oh shadow figure, who great.
- 47:30SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, short of literally being attacked or possessed at that point.
- 47:36SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 47:37SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 47:38SPEAKER_05: I mean, I don't think anybody really got scratched.
- 47:40SPEAKER_05: No.
- 47:41SPEAKER_05: We got poked or something in a bit.
- 47:44SPEAKER_05: I got poked in a bit.
- 47:46SPEAKER_05: I got leaned on.
- 47:47SPEAKER_05: You did.
- 47:48SPEAKER_05: That was like 10-15 minutes asked this.
- 47:51SPEAKER_05: Oh, really?
- 47:51SPEAKER_05: Like it wasn't someone pushing me, it's just like something pressure.
- 47:55SPEAKER_06: I was gonna say it was like a constant pressure, like a lean on you.
- 47:58SPEAKER_05: I kept going.
- 48:00SPEAKER_05: Fuck you.
- 48:01SPEAKER_06: Did it feel like okay, because with you having kids, did it feel like you don't want a little kid sticks next to you and they just kind of lean on you?
- 48:08SPEAKER_05: It felt like someone, I felt more like you know, like two guys when they're trying to like show dominance.
- 48:16SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
- 48:16SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm not really trying to fight, but I'm gonna show you this is my spot.
- 48:20SPEAKER_05: This is okay, okay.
- 48:21SPEAKER_05: That's what it kind of felt like.
- 48:23SPEAKER_05: So and it was cold, but I'm not talking like 10 degrees cold, it was like 20, 30 degrees cold.
- 48:28SPEAKER_05: You were very cold in that area, okay.
- 48:30SPEAKER_05: And just on the left side, so a cool experience.
- 48:33SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I want to go back to postown.
- 48:35SPEAKER_05: I'm not the problem is there's so many places we want to do.
- 48:37SPEAKER_05: So you've been doing this for uh how long six months now?
- 48:45SPEAKER_05: So you've been in Madison, the big trip, Bill Manor, Joe Rider.
- 48:53SPEAKER_05: What's the one place you want to go back to?
- 48:59SPEAKER_06: The antique store?
- 49:00SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 49:01SPEAKER_06: Okay it's enough of the place that like affected you the most.
- 49:05SPEAKER_06: You're like, nope, let's go, let's go back.
- 49:07SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know it would be worth doing the layer off again.
- 49:14SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 49:14SPEAKER_05: Just it's only a three-hour drive.
- 49:17SPEAKER_05: I mean, that was a big trip.
- 49:19SPEAKER_05: Yep.
- 49:19SPEAKER_05: Um, I don't recommend doing it.
- 49:21SPEAKER_05: Nope.
- 49:22SPEAKER_06: Um you said that.
- 49:24SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
- 49:25SPEAKER_05: Glad we did it.
- 49:27SPEAKER_05: Um it was fun.
- 49:29SPEAKER_05: It was it was we had good experience.
- 49:31SPEAKER_05: I mean, we test ourselves.
- 49:34SPEAKER_05: Again, watch YouTube, all videos are on there.
- 49:37SPEAKER_05: More will be coming up.
- 49:39SPEAKER_05: And again, thanks for watching.
- 49:41SPEAKER_05: It's been a minute since we did Trap Souls podcast.
- 49:44SPEAKER_05: Appreciate Sammy and all her words of wisdom she had tonight.
- 49:48SPEAKER_05: Do you want to say anything?
- 49:54SPEAKER_03: I don't have anything to say.
- 50:02SPEAKER_05: No.
- 50:03SPEAKER_05: Anyways, again, thank you.
- 50:05SPEAKER_05: Appreciate it.
- 50:06SPEAKER_05: We'll catch you on the next investigation.
- 50:08SPEAKER_05: Next podcast.
- 50:09SPEAKER_02: Bye.