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Oklahoma Sooner Bench Jackson Arnold | Is Michael Hawkins NEXT? · Sooner or Later Sports

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Speaker 1: Another day, another Sunday Men, Coop's gonna dive into everything
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Speaker 1: in this Oklahoma Tennessee game here on the Sooner or
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Speaker 1: us five anyway, and gifted so own today's episode. What
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Speaker 1: me and Coop are gonna jump into is We're gonna
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Speaker 1: keep it simple, keep it simple, stupid. We're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: about Oklahoma's offense, Oklahoma's defense, and what this means with
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Speaker 1: this Tennessee win, a loss, the wind by Tennessee, the
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Speaker 1: loss by Oklahoma. We're gonnna dive into position wise, what
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Speaker 1: adjustments we we believe if you can happened, And yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into the nity gritty around some of
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Speaker 1: the play calls in the grave. So Coop happy Sunday man,
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Speaker 1: how are you feeling the day?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 3: I am man to be honest with you. After de decompressing,
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Speaker 3: disconnecting on the drive home, you know I'm somewhat at peace.
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Speaker 3: I've got you know, obviously I've got opinions galore, But man,
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Speaker 3: I just to be honest with you, I didn't until
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Speaker 3: you know, about an hour and a half, two hours ago.
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Speaker 3: I really didn't dig back into anything. And so but
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Speaker 3: but yeah, man I feeling pretty good. And you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm glad we get to do this. This is this
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Speaker 3: is this is fun for us, and you know that
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Speaker 3: we're going to show up, you know, with the good
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Speaker 3: times and bad. So I know y'all want to express
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Speaker 3: your frustrations and hear, you know, kind of our thoughts
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Speaker 3: on stuff. And man, I stayed. I stayed with my buddy, Keith.
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Speaker 3: Keith came with me, Keith Banks came with me, and
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Speaker 3: we stayed the entire game, stayed till after the song,
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Speaker 3: and walked home, you know, I guess walked back to
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Speaker 3: the cars and got out. I got home right after
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Speaker 3: two am. I got up and went to church in
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Speaker 3: the morning. So it's been I might be I'm a
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Speaker 3: little tired. I'll sleep well tonight, though.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you go to sleep like a teenager, you're probably
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Speaker 1: gonna get some hours of sleep. And I got you
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Speaker 1: up late, so my apologies, but sorry I had to
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Speaker 1: delay everything for y'all today. I was I had a
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Speaker 1: flight at two, ended up being pushed to like three
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Speaker 1: point thirty because of the storms in Oklahoma City, and
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Speaker 1: so I'm out here in the in the Pacific time zone,
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Speaker 1: and now it's still early for me at six o'clock.
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Speaker 1: So technically, but y'all aren't. But no, thank y'all for
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Speaker 1: pulling up. I want to say this in the opening
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Speaker 1: random a pastor to Coop because I know he wanted
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Speaker 1: to add to this Soonervance, thank you. If you watched
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Speaker 1: my morning after, I want to tell all of you,
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you all for what y'all did at
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Speaker 1: the game. Holly Rose said that they measured the decibels
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Speaker 1: and it was at one hundred and seventeen, which is
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Speaker 1: the highest in two years, the highest as I was
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Speaker 1: one fifteen at LSU, and I believe that was the
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Speaker 1: Tennessee game too, if I'm correct. It may not have
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Speaker 1: been actually may have been a game that LSU actually won,
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Speaker 1: But no, shout out to y'all. Man, y'all deserve to
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Speaker 1: be praised for it. Y'all did a fantastic job of
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Speaker 1: being there. Y'all did a fantastic job of showing up,
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Speaker 1: showing out, and yeah, I can't complain about the crowds.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to some Tennessee fans and like, man,
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Speaker 1: y'all really come out, and I'm like, shoot, y'all show up.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to y'all. SCC teams we all know do travel,
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Speaker 1: but man, they were on it. So I can't complain
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Speaker 1: about the environment because we did everything we needed to do.
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Speaker 1: We made it hard for Tennessee play call wise, right,
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Speaker 1: We made it tough for them to really function the
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Speaker 1: way they wanted to. And that needs to be the
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Speaker 1: atmosphere going forward for all SEC games. We have to
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Speaker 1: do that in conference every time a visitor come through,
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Speaker 1: let them infiltrate and take over, pull up and show
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Speaker 1: them that sooner fans mean business. Regardless we lose a draw,
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Speaker 1: how will we do? How will we don't do? Keep
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Speaker 1: doing that. So I appreciate that, Coop. I know you
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Speaker 1: want to say a little something as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just looking back here, man, shout out
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Speaker 3: to the fans.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: I was on the phone on the way up to
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Speaker 3: the game with one of my buddies and I said, man,
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Speaker 3: if my voice is not struggling, you know, you know tomorrow,
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Speaker 3: it either means we got ran or we or or
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Speaker 3: we we got up super early. And it was just
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Speaker 3: the fans were going to play a part. But the
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Speaker 3: plan that the fans definitely played a part. Like, uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, I parked a decent ways away. I just
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Speaker 3: wanted to get get somewhere, pay somebody who you know,
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Speaker 3: probably isn't going to fill up, help out somebody, and
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Speaker 3: so I parked, and I mean I started running into
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Speaker 3: tailgates further out than I think I'd ever seen Tennessee
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Speaker 3: fans met a bunch of you guys.
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Speaker 2: Was talking with Jay Willard.
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Speaker 3: Uh you know, right at the the the walkt champions,
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Speaker 3: a bunch of guys ran up and you know, having
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Speaker 3: conversations with us. But Tennessee fans, man, I mean, I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't I wouldn't doubt to say that there was like,
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Speaker 3: you know, close to ten to twelve thousand Tennessee fans
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Speaker 3: in Norman. I don't know how many made it into
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Speaker 3: the game, but man, it was a shout out to
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Speaker 3: you guys. I mean, you guys did a great job.
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Speaker 3: You know, the the trolls on the internets are not
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Speaker 3: the same cats that were showing out. There was a
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Speaker 3: dude who raised you know, several thousand dollars for the
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Speaker 3: children's hospital and uh, you know from a from Tennessee.
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Speaker 3: And so next year, man, I want us to do
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Speaker 3: something like that too. But but yeah, I want to
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Speaker 3: do that. I mean literally the the Boomer Sooner chance
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Speaker 3: at the beginning of the game that you know, typically
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Speaker 3: our lackluster were I mean, my ears were hurting. I
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Speaker 3: remember looking over at you, I mean multiple times, Jay,
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Speaker 3: I was trying to say something to you, and uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, your wife and Keith were in between us
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Speaker 3: and we couldn't talk to each other.
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Speaker 2: And uh, but I.
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Speaker 3: Mean it was even into when you know, it looked
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Speaker 3: like I think that we were down by a score
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Speaker 3: or two, and it felt like it was we were
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Speaker 3: down by fifty. But the fans were still going they
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Speaker 3: were still going crazy. We were you know, they were
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Speaker 3: still they were still getting after it. And student section
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Speaker 3: is the last one man. Student section, y'all, y'all, y'all
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Speaker 3: did it. Let's do it every single game because we're
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Speaker 3: going to need that every single game. You know, next
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Speaker 3: one South Carolina, you know, at Texas and you know
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Speaker 3: for the fair but I mean that's that's that's how
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Speaker 3: we need to roll from this point on going for
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Speaker 3: for all of our SEC games exactly.
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Speaker 1: That's what we need to see more, right it The
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Speaker 1: environment was so loud, like like Coop said, but to me,
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Speaker 1: it was like it felt like we were in a
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Speaker 1: one score game even when we started to go down,
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Speaker 1: like I mean, the big mistakes of course took out
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Speaker 1: all the oxygen out the room. But whenever Tennessee was
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Speaker 1: up there, second, third down, we were making it difficult.
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Speaker 1: You could see Nico trying to adjust plays and the
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Speaker 1: smart thing for them, and I gotta give to Eipem
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Speaker 1: this was smart on his his even though he runs
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Speaker 1: a tempo offense. They huddled on the regular basis. I
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Speaker 1: noticed that a lot They spent a lot of time
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Speaker 1: together huddling up and then broken out because they know
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Speaker 1: that the adjustments are coming at the fifteen second mark,
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Speaker 1: so that makes it tough to take get time to
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Speaker 1: do that adjustment. They really did a really good job
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Speaker 1: of calling it there. But the other thing too, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna say this and then we're gonna we're gonna start
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Speaker 1: talking about the sides of the ball. We're gonna talk. Oh,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk. D Tennessee realized how they were gonna
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Speaker 1: win this game pretty early. Not not not trying to
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Speaker 1: force things, try to run as much clock as possible.
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma's offense isn't there. We're gonna start on the offensive side.
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Speaker 1: That's the one thing I'm gona shout out to them
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Speaker 1: on that. Hypel was smart. When they lost their right tackle.
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Speaker 1: You saw the entire game plan change. Yeah, right, Lance
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Speaker 1: Hurt didn't play. They started left tackles out, starting right tackle,
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Speaker 1: got Hurt came out, and when he noticed that they
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Speaker 1: were getting banged up and all the pressure was coming
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Speaker 1: from the edges, they changed game plan. Put the ball
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Speaker 1: in runn back's hands, run down the throat, run the clock.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of three and out
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Speaker 1: game that I was surprised about the beginning of this
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Speaker 1: game and throughout the middle did not expect that. Right,
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Speaker 1: this offense is so prolific. Tennessee puts up six hundred
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Speaker 1: and like fifty six yards per game. They got just
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Speaker 1: over half that in this game. And even saying they
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Speaker 1: slowed down, they recognized that after those two fumbles, They're like, nah,
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Speaker 1: we don't need to put ourselves in that position. Because
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Speaker 1: I just realized this and I want to talk about
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Speaker 1: this real quick. When RSJ got that sat Coop in
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Speaker 1: that fumble, you notice how he hit the quarterback. Not
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Speaker 1: a lot of people recognize this because I didn't recognize
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Speaker 1: it until watching it in multiple angles. He hit Nico's
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Speaker 1: elbow with his helmet. That could have been catastrophic. That
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Speaker 1: could have been catastrophic for the Tennessee I saw it,
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh gosh, because he hit him hard.
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Speaker 1: He didn't hit him lightly. It was Nico was going
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Speaker 1: back and you saw rishtiggle right into the elbow. I
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Speaker 1: thought his arm went around and hit him. That was
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Speaker 1: his helmet.
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Speaker 2: No, it was bad. It was.
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Speaker 3: Let let me ping in on that one too, because
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Speaker 3: at I gotta get I gotta hand it to coach
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Speaker 3: Hypel because you know, we heard a lot of like
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Speaker 3: this is personal for him.
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Speaker 2: They want to run it up.
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Speaker 3: I think at one point he realized and I looked
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Speaker 3: at you and I said, Jay, we have to score
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Speaker 3: on special teams or defense, and we recognize that. Like
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Speaker 3: at that point, it was we needed to see a
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Speaker 3: score because it wasn't coming from the offense. And I
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Speaker 3: think Josh Hipel said the same thing. They said, here's
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Speaker 3: the deal is, we're not going to let that happen.
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Speaker 3: We're going to chew the clock. We're going to get down.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna get down. We're gonna snap it under ten
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Speaker 3: seconds every single time, and we're not going to do it.
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Speaker 3: And I'll get into stats towards the when we get
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Speaker 3: into the defense side. But I mean that that was
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's and I think that Teddy said it too.
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Speaker 3: I didn't want to listen to all of their show,
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Speaker 3: but you know, at that point, you're like, you know,
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Speaker 3: why give them anything, Why give them momentum, even though
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Speaker 3: I mean it's not just turnovers that they were scared of.
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Speaker 3: It was that are getting our defense to get a
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Speaker 3: score because obviously they knew that they turned the ball over.
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Speaker 2: It may not mean anything after after what we saw.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, let's get into.
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Speaker 3: Let's get let's get into the off side the offenses.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about about let's talk about Oh, thank
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Speaker 1: you for pulling up. I see you on the chat.
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Speaker 1: I'm reading them. I'm not gonna probably post most on here.
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Speaker 1: I'm thank said, I'm traveling and I'm on a hotel
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Speaker 1: Wi Fi. It's never perfect, So we're gonna we're gonna
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Speaker 1: work with what we're working with today. But we see
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Speaker 1: you guys probably try to jump in there and try
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Speaker 1: chat back and forth. But offense, man, uh, let's talk
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Speaker 1: about this offense coop. It was bad. Like I'm not
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Speaker 1: even there's no sugar coating. It was bad. It was.
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Speaker 1: It was really bad. It was it was. It was.
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Speaker 1: It was bad. And the problem that problems that we
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Speaker 1: had will not be fixed by replacing an offensive coordinator.
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Speaker 1: Right now, everyone keeps saying, bring this coaching, bring that coaching.
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Speaker 1: I promise you they wouldn't do any better, not today,
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Speaker 1: not right now. There's something else going on that needs
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Speaker 1: to be fixed, right all these injuries. Of course, you
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Speaker 1: lose four top wide receivers. That throws a lot off,
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Speaker 1: so they're just throwing. Everybody says, hey, play this player,
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Speaker 1: play that player. So they're throwing a lot of these
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Speaker 1: random players out there, and you're not seeing these players
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Speaker 1: make it, get themselves open. I'm glad to see that
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Speaker 1: Petaway is healthy now. And yeah, just to make it
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Speaker 1: crystal clear, the the Jackson Arnold era is now over.
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Speaker 1: In my personal opinion, there's no reason to even try, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: let's look at these this number real quick, cool offensively
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Speaker 1: here as you can see here, Michael Hawkins was eleven
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Speaker 1: for eighteen for one point thirty two and a touchdown.
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Speaker 1: Nico was thirteen for twenty one one ninety four in
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Speaker 1: a touchdown, and Michael Hawkins did not play the entire game.
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Speaker 1: Nico had that big completion. They weren't too far off statistically.
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Speaker 1: That told me something. Now, outside of that, our run
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Speaker 1: game is abysmal. It's bad like it looks that two things.
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Speaker 1: That time of possession right there for Tennessee told me
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Speaker 1: a lot that I needed to know that our defense
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Speaker 1: did their job to try to get us the ball
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Speaker 1: and our offense did not help out. We need something
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Speaker 1: to give in this run game. We need an adjustment
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Speaker 1: in the play all of misdirection, something in the run game.
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Speaker 1: So Coop, how'd you feel about this? Oh? Overall, and
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Speaker 1: then we can jump into positions.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that the in the third quarter
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Speaker 3: we had negative yardage. I mean we were the fans
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Speaker 3: cheered when you broke one hundred yards. And I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you guys an analogy because I I'm,
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Speaker 3: I'm that's the kind of person that I am. I
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Speaker 3: was doing Tornado really a few years back, uh down
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Speaker 3: in More and I was having a conversation with the lady.
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Speaker 3: She came in and the house was gone, and you know,
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Speaker 3: I was running the supplies, and so I said, hey,
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Speaker 3: you know, we've got we've got stuff for cleaning, we've
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Speaker 3: got food, we've got some clothing, we've got diapers, baby stuff.
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Speaker 2: And she just sighed and she looked at me and
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Speaker 2: she was like hmmm.
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Speaker 3: And I was like, well, what is there something you
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Speaker 3: need that we don't have? And she's like, no, I
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Speaker 3: just there's so much wrong. I don't know where you start.
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Speaker 3: And that's where I feel about this offense right now.
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Speaker 3: You've got two bad years of not playing the recruiting
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Speaker 3: game the appropriate way. On the offensive line, You've got
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Speaker 3: transfers who are not doing the job that they're not
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Speaker 3: even continuing the job that they were doing at the
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Speaker 3: previous stop. You've got injuries, You've got you've got you know,
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Speaker 3: the teams not able, I mean offensive line was. Now
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Speaker 3: we're at thirteen different variations of an offensive line in
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Speaker 3: four games. Wide receiver injuries, the tied end the blocking
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Speaker 3: the job. Listen, It's like, if you want to yell
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Speaker 3: at sethlatrail my opinion is Seth Latreill now has an
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Speaker 3: eight game job interview going forward, Seth Latreil, Joe John Finley.
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Speaker 3: But I do say this that I don't I mean,
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Speaker 3: you can't blame Seth latrelle when first play from scrimmage
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Speaker 3: three out of the four Dad Gum games, the first
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Speaker 3: play from scrimmage is negative yardage on offense, YEP, it
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Speaker 3: is ridiculous at this point, guys not going the right way.
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Speaker 3: You know, running We've shown no ability to run inside,
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Speaker 3: to run inside zone at all, and we continue to
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Speaker 3: try to do it. You show some capabilities on the
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Speaker 3: outside and you're like, oh now, let's now that they
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Speaker 3: know that we can do it, let's go back inside
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Speaker 3: and not go back outside again. So I think with
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Speaker 3: offense is like, there are so many things wrong Jackson Arnald.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot wrong with Jackson Arnald, and he deserved
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Speaker 3: to get pulled in today, I mean yesterday that he
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Speaker 3: deserved it.
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Speaker 2: But it was not all on him.
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Speaker 3: There was a massive amount of just piss, poor assignment
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Speaker 3: sound football on one of the one of the uh,
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Speaker 3: one of the saxophone Jackson Arnold tackle takes off running,
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Speaker 3: goes for the guy in the second level instead of
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Speaker 3: the free rusher on the outside, and then when he
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Speaker 3: misses him, then the tight end, which I'm going to
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Speaker 3: try to keep as nameless as possible during these times
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Speaker 3: because I don't want to bash these kids. But at
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Speaker 3: the same time, it's what we need to start having
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Speaker 3: that account that conversation of Listen, if you want name,
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Speaker 3: image and likeness, and you want to hold out for
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Speaker 3: money and you want to do this stuff, then you
17:34
Speaker 3: got to take both sides of it. You know, we
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Speaker 3: get on the NFL players when they do it, so
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Speaker 3: it's it's time to do the same thing here. But
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Speaker 3: then the tight end absolutely whiffs, and so it's it's
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Speaker 3: this game was lost on offense. I mean it was
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Speaker 3: absolutely lost on offense. The defense played so well that
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Speaker 3: this could have been a double digit score win. And
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Speaker 3: and I promise you this is the ifs and butts,
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Speaker 3: Like I don't want to get into that because you know,
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Speaker 3: you never know what happens. Does our you know, do
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Speaker 3: they get more shots later in the game down the field.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. They just were not scared of our
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Speaker 3: off They were not scared of our offense at all,
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Speaker 3: Like it is like, we do not care, let's go
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Speaker 3: out here. Tennessee averaged. We got more first downs in Tennessee.
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Speaker 3: Did Jay did you know that?
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Speaker 1: Yep?
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Speaker 3: We had more first down We had sixteen and they
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Speaker 3: had fourteen. By the end of the game, they averaged
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Speaker 3: two point nine yards per carry.
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Speaker 2: Running the football.
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Speaker 3: So they were saying three yards in a cloud of punt,
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Speaker 3: not a cloud of dust. Three yards and a clouds
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Speaker 3: of punt we were getting in. I mean the defense
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Speaker 3: at the end of the game, when it looks like
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Speaker 3: our offense was literally not have an opportunity like it's
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Speaker 3: they were literally like third and thirteen and they were
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Speaker 3: running these wide screen passes. They were not going to
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Speaker 3: put the ball in harms way, They were not going
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Speaker 3: to put Nico in harms way.
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Speaker 2: They were not going to do any of.
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Speaker 3: That stuff because there was zero threat that the offense
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Speaker 3: was going to do something until fourth quarter when stuff
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Speaker 3: started just kind of coming together.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's the Hawkins era.
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Speaker 3: It's time, and it's not one hundred percent because of
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Speaker 3: Jackson Arnold, but he made so many I mean the
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Speaker 3: turnovers were bad. The turnovers were absolutely terrible. But as
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Speaker 3: the as the play caller, like, if you're Seth Latrell,
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Speaker 3: how comfortable are you going to be in anything, because
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Speaker 3: you don't know if you call the perfect play. Is
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Speaker 3: the quarterback going to do the right thing? Are the
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Speaker 3: wide receivers going to do the right thing? Are the
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Speaker 3: tight ends and wide receivers going to block like they're
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Speaker 3: supposed to. But at the same time, I mean, there
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Speaker 3: were still some play calls.
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Speaker 2: You're like, why why why up the middle? Why beat
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Speaker 2: and bow? Like if this is some.
19:50
Speaker 3: Long term place to where you want to continue just
19:52
Speaker 3: to pound your head into this brick wall. I mean,
19:56
Speaker 3: so you're better down the road, Like I don't, I don't.
19:59
Speaker 3: I just don't understand it. So it's I mean, this
20:03
Speaker 3: was literally the offensive team because the offense that they're
20:09
Speaker 3: thrown out there was offensive. I mean, and they the
20:13
Speaker 3: this offense, I tweeted out in the middle of the game,
20:14
Speaker 3: and I am typically not like a negative guy on
20:16
Speaker 3: Twitter in the middle of the games. But the offense
20:19
Speaker 3: let the crowd down, and the offense let the defense down,
20:22
Speaker 3: the offense let the program down, and somebody needs to
20:25
Speaker 3: start finding an opportunity where you go, all right, who's
20:29
Speaker 3: going to step up? What is the intestinal fortitude? Where
20:32
Speaker 3: is this player led in this this where's the leadership
20:36
Speaker 3: going to show up at this point? Because we need
20:39
Speaker 3: to absolutely have the opportunity in Ferry. I'm gonna end
20:42
Speaker 3: with this piece is that you can't miss on five
20:46
Speaker 3: star quarterbacks. Dylan Gabriel is not Dylan Gabriel is one
20:50
Speaker 3: hit away from being out for four games.
20:52
Speaker 1: Uh.
20:52
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel is the same situation that two at Takobyla
20:55
Speaker 3: is in. He is one hit away from his career
20:58
Speaker 3: being severely in jeopardy. And I think that's one of
21:01
Speaker 3: the big reasons why him leaving was because we had
21:05
Speaker 3: we felt good at a quarterback where they wrong on Arnold.
21:09
Speaker 3: It looks like that now, but I don't think this
21:12
Speaker 3: affects recruiting because now you still you still have Kevin
21:15
Speaker 3: Sperry and you still have jan O'Neil coming in. And
21:18
Speaker 3: so if anything, if I'm a quarterback, I mean I
21:22
Speaker 3: may if Hawkins can turn this thing around and you
21:24
Speaker 3: get a little bit more of a pulse on offense.
21:26
Speaker 3: These guys are alpha dogs and they're going to want
21:28
Speaker 3: to come in here and they're going to want to
21:29
Speaker 3: take the job because they now see that it's an
21:30
Speaker 3: opportunity to be a quarterback at the University of Oklahoma.
21:34
Speaker 3: And no matter what your allegiance to your team is,
21:37
Speaker 3: that's better than going to UCLA. That's better than going,
21:41
Speaker 3: you know, to Michigan at this point. So, I mean,
21:44
Speaker 3: I just I fully believe that it's not great for
21:48
Speaker 3: recruiting Furry, but I don't think that it hurts too
21:50
Speaker 3: much because now you have a dynamic guy in Michael
21:54
Speaker 3: Hawkins who's going to take over, who has more capabilities
21:57
Speaker 3: of moving latterly. And it seems like Keith sees things
22:00
Speaker 3: a lot better, whereas Jackson Arnold he cannot when when
22:04
Speaker 3: the pressure comes on, it seems like he is worse.
22:08
Speaker 3: And my wife, who does not like being part of
22:11
Speaker 3: this whole thing, she doesn't like the fact that I
22:13
Speaker 3: rewatched the game four times and and she doesn't pay attention.
22:16
Speaker 3: She was watching the game last night and she was like,
22:19
Speaker 3: Jackson Arlal just didn't seem like he cared and he
22:22
Speaker 3: just seemed like he crumbled. And so for someone who
22:25
Speaker 3: doesn't isn't a ball knower to come and you know,
22:28
Speaker 3: willingly say that to me, you know, as she was
22:31
Speaker 3: you know, how long did you stay at the game?
22:34
Speaker 3: Like that's that's pretty indicting. So Jay, you went off screen.
22:40
Speaker 3: So now it's just my ugly face for everybody.
22:43
Speaker 2: Okay. So I mean that's I mean, that's kind of
22:47
Speaker 2: where I'm at right now.
22:48
Speaker 3: Is you just have there's there's a lot of needed
22:51
Speaker 3: offensive line and whatever whatever you know. Strategy that you
22:56
Speaker 3: want to play from this part for going forward is
23:00
Speaker 3: you cannot.
23:02
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to stack talent.
23:04
Speaker 3: This is where you make the call to Babylola and
23:07
Speaker 3: you say what do you want? This is where you
23:09
Speaker 3: maybe go back to Lamont Rogers and say what do
23:11
Speaker 3: you want. This is where you go to anybody at
23:14
Speaker 3: the wide receiver position, say what do you want? Like,
23:16
Speaker 3: let's get you in here, because if you need to
23:19
Speaker 3: come in and take a job, there are jobs be had.
23:22
Speaker 3: And I think that Nick Saban showed an amazing precedent
23:27
Speaker 3: by just going in the middle of the National Championship
23:29
Speaker 3: game and pulling your quarterback and putting somebody else in
23:32
Speaker 3: like that.
23:33
Speaker 2: That's the that's the.
23:34
Speaker 3: That's where we're at now because millions and millions of
23:37
Speaker 3: dollars are on the line with this, and you cannot,
23:41
Speaker 3: you cannot, just absolutely see failures at multiple levels in
23:47
Speaker 3: the offense. And I don't understand it. I don't understand
23:49
Speaker 3: how you're now twelve twelve problems deep or twelve injuries
23:54
Speaker 3: deep on the offensive side of the ball. I mean
23:56
Speaker 3: Dolby got his you know, first one, and you got
23:58
Speaker 3: so now you got two guys on the defensive. So
24:00
Speaker 3: I mean, anybody throwing out the hey, this is on
24:03
Speaker 3: Schmidty like that just doesn't make sense. How the defense
24:06
Speaker 3: is bigger, stronger, faster and actually what we thought we
24:09
Speaker 3: were about to be. But then the offense literally looks
24:12
Speaker 3: like a I mean, it looks like a group of
24:17
Speaker 3: five type of offense.
24:20
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, Coop cover the offense. Oh so
24:24
Speaker 1: everybody knows the question that was asked two dollars from
24:29
Speaker 1: Furry Murray. Thanks for the two bucks. My guy, I
24:31
Speaker 1: know exactly who it is. He'll text me later, Will Pooling,
24:34
Speaker 1: Arnold effect recruiting, and so Coop kind of answered that.
24:38
Speaker 1: And so my take on that is, no, it actually
24:40
Speaker 1: means that the team's going to play the person that's
24:43
Speaker 1: performing the best, right, That's what players look for will
24:46
Speaker 1: I get the opportunity if one player isn't performing, or
24:49
Speaker 1: are you going to do the seniority thing? And that
24:52
Speaker 1: just lets them know, look, you got long, he had
24:55
Speaker 1: a long leash. He had three and a half games.
24:57
Speaker 1: It took up too Then they're like, you know what,
25:00
Speaker 1: you are turning the ball over too much. We need
25:02
Speaker 1: to go ahead and move forward. So that's what I see.
25:04
Speaker 1: When it comes to recruiting. You'll hear players say that
25:06
Speaker 1: a lot. They go want to go somewhere where they
25:08
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to play day one. Heck, Michael Hawkins's
25:10
Speaker 1: dad tweeted out that, you know, Michael Continia was like,
25:13
Speaker 1: I played as a true freshman. My son's not there
25:15
Speaker 1: to be QB two. He's gonna work as bad off
25:17
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be trying to be QB one. And
25:19
Speaker 1: luckily now he has the opportunity. Tanya, thank you so
25:23
Speaker 1: much for the four ninety nine. You always show up
25:25
Speaker 1: and show out. We appreciate that. If you have a question,
25:30
Speaker 1: feel free to post it in the chat and we'll
25:32
Speaker 1: definitely address that there. All right, So from there, all right,
25:37
Speaker 1: let's talk quarterbacks a little bit. I'll give my quick
25:40
Speaker 1: spiel on it. I won't go on a rant here,
25:43
Speaker 1: but for the most part, to me, you can't put
25:48
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold back in unless you have to, like injury situation.
25:53
Speaker 1: Right at this point, Michael Hawkins is your starting quarterback
25:56
Speaker 1: only because he not only gives you the additional spark,
25:58
Speaker 1: but a good job of compensating for the offensive line.
26:04
Speaker 1: Right Uh QB two, Steven's asking that when I see
26:08
Speaker 1: that my guy QB two's Jacksonarnald, you're gonna have Jackson
26:11
Speaker 1: Nonald b QB two for now. They're gonna red shirt
26:14
Speaker 1: Brendan Zebrug and let him get really seasoned. Casey is
26:21
Speaker 1: uh a tap on the knee away from it basically imploding.
26:25
Speaker 1: Remember he had knee surgery and he's older, so you
26:28
Speaker 1: wanna you wanna, you want to take your time with
26:31
Speaker 1: him because he got heard end of last season I'm correct,
26:34
Speaker 1: no early, it was around this time, so he's about
26:36
Speaker 1: a year away. He's about he's about a year from
26:38
Speaker 1: certain knee surgery. But you want to make sure that
26:42
Speaker 1: he's good. Make sure it wasn't like a big, a
26:44
Speaker 1: bad knee situation, kind of like a mega MEGS was. Hence,
26:47
Speaker 1: why you don't really see him a lot. It's he
26:49
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty, pretty bad. But I do believe that
26:53
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold won't start unless there is a significant injury
26:58
Speaker 1: and will knock on wood that doesn't happen. Do I
27:01
Speaker 1: think Jackson Donald's gone from Oklahoma now, cook? That's a
27:04
Speaker 1: very good question, because I've had a lot of people say, oh,
27:06
Speaker 1: he's gonna definitely have to transfer. I honestly don't know.
27:11
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And I say that because keeping
27:14
Speaker 1: it a buck right now, he's damage goods. Yeah, he
27:18
Speaker 1: needs to prove himself in transferring may not be it.
27:22
Speaker 1: He may need to stick around. So yeah, now Casey's
27:28
Speaker 1: here as an experienced backup that you may go to
27:31
Speaker 1: at some point, maybe mid season if you need to.
27:35
Speaker 1: But I don't think he moves up to QB two.
27:39
Speaker 1: I still think Jackson Donald ends up there. Hence why
27:43
Speaker 1: you saw Jackson Arnold go in and do that handoff
27:46
Speaker 1: when Barnes went into the end zone. That was because
27:49
Speaker 1: Hawkins was over there at the medical tent after that foot.
27:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got hurt. They had to come on the
27:54
Speaker 2: field because of it.
27:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you gotta do it right, you know, you
27:58
Speaker 1: don't there's no reason to throw another quarterback out there
28:00
Speaker 1: in fear of you getting him lit up to. But
28:04
Speaker 1: I think Michael Hawkins is gonna be fine long term.
28:07
Speaker 1: He's now your qubing. You gotta play a true freshman.
28:09
Speaker 1: I hate playing true freshman. I'll tell you that now.
28:11
Speaker 1: I'll tell you specifically because watching them go through growing
28:15
Speaker 1: pains is why our chat is so full right now.
28:18
Speaker 1: Right watching a young player go through growing pains, everybody
28:22
Speaker 1: loses their mind and asks why they're playing, or why
28:23
Speaker 1: this person is playing. The minute Michael Hawkins makes mistakes,
28:27
Speaker 1: this entire chat coop is gonna.
28:29
Speaker 2: Say, what, Why are Thompson?
28:33
Speaker 1: Why don't we put back in? Put in Brandon Zeber,
28:36
Speaker 1: Why don't we go back to Jackson Arnold. I'm just
28:38
Speaker 1: telling y'all what's gonna happen. I'm not saying all of
28:40
Speaker 1: you are like that, But that's how fans work. That
28:43
Speaker 1: is the fanatic mentality, go to the next one. I
28:47
Speaker 1: think that for us on the offensive line, the biggest
28:50
Speaker 1: problem isn't the biggest problem isn't that the players aren't good.
28:55
Speaker 1: The biggest problem is twofold one, the attention to detail,
28:58
Speaker 1: and two we've gone through so many variations and Coop,
29:02
Speaker 1: you just talked about that a minute ago. How many
29:04
Speaker 1: variations have you heard?
29:05
Speaker 2: Thirteen now, thirteen.
29:06
Speaker 1: Now, thirteen And it's all because people keep getting hurt.
29:12
Speaker 1: We just looked at and Coop you that was the
29:14
Speaker 1: best point possible. We want to blame, you know, Smidi
29:19
Speaker 1: on all of this. We've had two defensive injuries, like
29:22
Speaker 1: significant ones. I mean, have we had two significant ones?
29:26
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta throw gentry. Gentry hasn't been help
29:29
Speaker 3: quite a long time.
29:30
Speaker 2: And then just.
29:33
Speaker 3: Right could have played tonight's or I guess yesterday.
29:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but they held.
29:40
Speaker 3: Him played, but they're gonna keep They're gonna let him
29:42
Speaker 3: keep going.
29:43
Speaker 2: It's a foot thing. And when you got a big
29:44
Speaker 2: guy like that, it's it's it's a foot thing.
29:46
Speaker 1: And especially if in quote unquote lanky, I guess you
29:49
Speaker 1: could say right and it' and it's And I think
29:52
Speaker 1: it's funny because they asked preventables about the injuries, especially
29:56
Speaker 1: on defense. It's true what you're gonna do about that?
29:59
Speaker 1: And my favorit thing he was probably one of the
30:01
Speaker 1: best quotes that he said. He's like, so like I'm
30:04
Speaker 1: gonna be able to prevent a guy that goes in
30:06
Speaker 1: for a tackle from getting someone rolling on his ankle. Like,
30:09
Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer that, And he's one
30:11
Speaker 1: hundred percent right. It's football. People gonna get hurt. Like
30:14
Speaker 1: that's just the game. The question is is how lucky
30:17
Speaker 1: do you get that it's not significant and they can
30:19
Speaker 1: still continue to play. Bradon Higgins's playing an injured right
30:21
Speaker 1: now for y'all, just f y, he's still I think
30:23
Speaker 1: it's a high ankle spraying. He's still playing. He's playing hurt.
30:26
Speaker 1: Troy Everett, he's just trying to get his knee together
30:28
Speaker 1: because he had surgery and hopefully he can play next week.
30:31
Speaker 1: I was hoping he played this week. He should be
30:33
Speaker 1: able to hopefully play at Auburn because he threws that
30:37
Speaker 1: it needs a little bit of help. He's a red
30:39
Speaker 1: shirt freshman, remember, young dudes. Right, we need to do
30:42
Speaker 1: is to get a little bit nasty. But the good
30:44
Speaker 1: thing is this is what we've got going for ourselves.
30:46
Speaker 1: Someone mentioned this in the chat earlier, and I really
30:49
Speaker 1: appreciate it. We need to go through this stuff. We
30:53
Speaker 1: need to, especially on my offensive side because the thing
30:57
Speaker 1: that everybody and I've said this numerous time, Coop, tell
31:00
Speaker 1: me how crazy am am? I? Everybody has said that
31:05
Speaker 1: if we had a pulse of a defense, this team
31:07
Speaker 1: would have been X Y Z right. This defense played
31:12
Speaker 1: their tails off in this game. We're gonna go jump
31:14
Speaker 1: right intoid of defense because I'm kind of talking about offense.
31:17
Speaker 1: We'll come back to offense. We'll talk quivers, even running back.
31:19
Speaker 1: At the end. We're gonna hamburger this bad boy with
31:21
Speaker 1: like terrible and then good stuff and then terrible at
31:24
Speaker 1: the end. Coop. Everybody has said that we need a
31:29
Speaker 1: pulse of a defense in order to be anything. A
31:31
Speaker 1: pulse and we could have been great. I think our
31:34
Speaker 1: defense has flip flopped with the offense, which we all
31:37
Speaker 1: know this right. The defense was really good in this game. Yeah,
31:40
Speaker 1: I only blame Zach Alley for one play second and
31:44
Speaker 1: one and Thornton catches that deep cross, that deep that
31:50
Speaker 1: deep post well at mid range post midpost, real quick
31:54
Speaker 1: and runs it sixty six yards from a touchdown. This
31:59
Speaker 1: is one of those situations where you don't bring up
32:10
Speaker 1: your safety in fear of the run, even though we
32:13
Speaker 1: know that they were going to run the ball. We
32:15
Speaker 1: thought they were going to run the ball. You don't
32:17
Speaker 1: bring up your safety there earlier. Not crazy on.
32:20
Speaker 2: That, No, And.
32:23
Speaker 3: I think to that point, you, I mean, we knew
32:26
Speaker 3: it was coming. We knew at some point that ver
32:29
Speaker 3: and shoot that they were going to pull the ball
32:31
Speaker 3: and they were going to they were going to go
32:32
Speaker 3: for it. Can I looked like it's supposed to be
32:36
Speaker 3: quarters coverage, and so there's supposed to be a safety
32:39
Speaker 3: at least mid both of our safeties continue to creep up,
32:43
Speaker 3: creep up, creep up, creep up, and that was going
32:46
Speaker 3: to I mean, you just knew that if they pulled
32:50
Speaker 3: it at the right time, it was going to be there.
32:53
Speaker 3: And so that's where I'm going to go with this,
32:55
Speaker 3: is like, that's why I don't say that if we
32:57
Speaker 3: could have scored two touchdowns on Offen in the first half,
33:00
Speaker 3: we would have won, because you don't know if another
33:02
Speaker 3: thing that happens. So but but I mean I do
33:07
Speaker 3: say that that was that was there. There's a lot
33:10
Speaker 3: of opportunity for you to get get get pulled on
33:15
Speaker 3: those situations. It was a quick throw can I Walker
33:19
Speaker 3: let him run, he let him get on the inside.
33:22
Speaker 3: He thought somebody was behind him, and that's where you
33:25
Speaker 3: that's the attention to details, so you got to you
33:27
Speaker 3: gotta be there, but to say, you know, this seems
33:30
Speaker 3: averaging six hundred yards and you give up? Was it
33:33
Speaker 3: three thirty?
33:35
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, so I mean somewhere in that area.
33:39
Speaker 3: So that was the biggest play of the night on
33:42
Speaker 3: either side of the ball. Peedaway had the forty six
33:45
Speaker 3: yard or later in so that's the second biggest play.
33:48
Speaker 3: But that was his one of his two catches. His
33:51
Speaker 3: other catch was for seven yards, so he got that
33:55
Speaker 3: one and the defense, Jay, I mean, they showed out.
34:03
Speaker 3: They continued, They continued, they continued, they they kept on pushing.
34:08
Speaker 3: You saw Eli Bowen come in. Uh, I mean I'm not.
34:11
Speaker 3: I'm I think that Eli Bowen is ready to go.
34:14
Speaker 2: Now. The guy we heard a great things about.
34:17
Speaker 3: Him early in the camp, that he was not just
34:22
Speaker 3: an addition because of Peyton, that he was an actual
34:25
Speaker 3: a baller. And you know, we talked about his accolades
34:28
Speaker 3: his junior year and then there's nobody even messed with
34:30
Speaker 3: him his senior year in high school. He's smaller, but
34:34
Speaker 3: that that guy, he's got the dog in him.
34:37
Speaker 2: So all right, let's let's.
34:39
Speaker 1: Stay here with the secondary real quick. That play with
34:42
Speaker 1: Ali the Ali called for them to move up Bowman.
34:45
Speaker 1: That's kind of was my point of That's one of
34:48
Speaker 1: those plays where you got to recognize the room. That's
34:51
Speaker 1: the perfect play action play. You take a deep shot
34:54
Speaker 1: on second and two because you're probably gonna run the
34:57
Speaker 1: ball on third down regardless. And the thing is is
35:00
Speaker 1: that for us, if we would have thought about it
35:03
Speaker 1: in that capacity, Bowman would have stepped back. He would
35:06
Speaker 1: have he would have immediately, he would have looked, he
35:08
Speaker 1: would have showed that he was gonna come up, and
35:09
Speaker 1: he immediately ran back into some sort of his own
35:12
Speaker 1: and he could have probably caught that or knocked it down.
35:15
Speaker 1: We didn't do that. Brue McCoy's fast and Niko is
35:19
Speaker 1: able to catch him twice, one deep and one in
35:22
Speaker 1: a cross, which that was expected. When you have a
35:25
Speaker 1: very aggressive defense, you're gonna give up a big player
35:28
Speaker 1: here there. There's nothing you can do about that. That
35:30
Speaker 1: that's the unforced, fortunate casualty of being aggressive. And our
35:37
Speaker 1: aggressiveness was actually what helped us in this game, right,
35:39
Speaker 1: That's what helped our defense do well. They did a
35:43
Speaker 1: good job of getting pressure from the secondary and the
35:49
Speaker 1: secondary blitzes to shift around you saw late in the
35:53
Speaker 1: game that brought in Boglanowski. I think I'm assuming RP
35:57
Speaker 1: three is a little.
35:57
Speaker 3: Hurt right now, he's still well. I think that he
36:00
Speaker 3: was in a boot and his pops is in here,
36:03
Speaker 3: So if you feel free, Sharon. I know that he
36:07
Speaker 3: was hurt last week, so maybe he was just a
36:10
Speaker 3: holdout this this week also.
36:12
Speaker 1: Which I get that makes sense. But yeah, I would
36:16
Speaker 1: have loved to have seen him too. But Bogan AlSi
36:18
Speaker 1: got out there and he did well. Right, But as
36:20
Speaker 1: a moment to the linebackers, though, hey man, we're good
36:24
Speaker 1: for the next like two years at linebacker. Stutsman is
36:28
Speaker 1: gonna be gone. But she did killed Kobe and Lewis.
36:31
Speaker 1: Carter was there cool one play when he went there,
36:36
Speaker 1: got went back there and hit Squirrel. That was great,
36:40
Speaker 1: not only communication from Billy Bowman, because I think were
36:42
Speaker 1: talking about on the broadcast when I watched it, how
36:45
Speaker 1: Billy saw the motion and he kind of guided Lewis
36:48
Speaker 1: to communicated something Lewis and then Carter immediately jumped up,
36:51
Speaker 1: jumped over jump the dude was suppoth to block him,
36:53
Speaker 1: couldn't get to Lewis because he juked him. Basically, he
36:56
Speaker 1: slipped missile and he just went straight into Squirrel's chest.
37:02
Speaker 1: We are in a great spot at linebacker in secondary
37:07
Speaker 1: right now, right, I think we are gonna be just fine.
37:10
Speaker 1: And India of course defensive line going forward, but Coop
37:12
Speaker 1: linebacker wise, right, you saw some Canic. He looked pretty good.
37:17
Speaker 1: Of course, Stutsman is Stutsman. He was everything. But between
37:20
Speaker 1: Stutsman and are Robert Spears jennings Man, I feel really
37:25
Speaker 1: bad for this defense. We're wasting this greatness.
37:30
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been here before.
37:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just wasting once all because the defense has
37:36
Speaker 1: done everything it was supposed to do getting turnovers? How many?
37:41
Speaker 1: How many funmals do we have this season? Now?
37:45
Speaker 2: I mean, is it like to a game? I'll have
37:48
Speaker 2: to look, but like.
37:49
Speaker 1: Six in the first game? Did we get one in
37:52
Speaker 1: the sixth? The next two games? Here, I'll pull up
37:57
Speaker 1: cossooball stats right now and I will tell you I
37:59
Speaker 1: was just more.
37:59
Speaker 3: So yeah, and I'm gonna go. Also, you saw Jadeen
38:04
Speaker 3: Hardy PG. Good call out on that one. Jade Hardy
38:07
Speaker 3: came in he got some uh yeah, I mean so
38:12
Speaker 3: you didn't see a heavy eight fumbles recovered? So to
38:17
Speaker 3: a game, Stephen thinks there and uh so, yeah it was.
38:24
Speaker 3: I mean it was a This defense did everything that
38:27
Speaker 3: they were supposed to and outside of the deep touchdown,
38:31
Speaker 3: the other big plays that they gave up, they held
38:35
Speaker 3: them to a punt or a field goal. This defense
38:38
Speaker 3: also on two different occasions, created a turnover and then
38:41
Speaker 3: had to come back out one play later. And so
38:44
Speaker 3: I was worried that after the the absolutely horrendous just
38:52
Speaker 3: veering of what the play was called and him throwing
38:55
Speaker 3: the interception, I was worried that now that's where things could.
39:01
Speaker 2: And so man, I just.
39:04
Speaker 3: I just absolutely I mean, I just absolutely can't can't
39:07
Speaker 3: believe this.
39:07
Speaker 2: Now.
39:08
Speaker 3: I will say this is that Tennessee defense is good.
39:12
Speaker 2: Also, that that's front seven is phenomenal.
39:16
Speaker 3: James Pierce, you know, I've I've heard him potentially being
39:19
Speaker 3: the number one pick.
39:20
Speaker 2: In the draft.
39:20
Speaker 3: I do not see it at all. I do absolutely
39:23
Speaker 3: not see it. He's the same size as Kip Lewis.
39:25
Speaker 3: He came into the game with like three quarter quarterback
39:28
Speaker 3: hurries and one tackle, and if I'm not mistaken, he
39:32
Speaker 3: had two more tackles today yesterday and a half half
39:38
Speaker 3: to two tackles, one solo half a sack, half of
39:41
Speaker 3: a tackle for loss. So I'm sorry, but three tackles,
39:47
Speaker 3: half a sack, half a tackle for loss after four games.
39:50
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got four or five different guys on
39:52
Speaker 3: our team that have that. So this defense just continued
39:56
Speaker 3: to continue to push and you know, that's even missing.
40:00
Speaker 3: The thing that I love about the defense, guys, is
40:02
Speaker 3: that we don't it is.
40:05
Speaker 2: It is absolutely hilarious that.
40:09
Speaker 3: Even if we miss a tackle, there's two guys right
40:12
Speaker 3: back behind them to clean it up, and so guys
40:15
Speaker 3: are missing when we're missing tackles, it's it's guys missing
40:19
Speaker 3: in the backfield and then somebody you know keeping it
40:22
Speaker 3: at like a one or two yard you know gain.
40:25
Speaker 2: Uh.
40:25
Speaker 3: The only play where I thought that they pushed through
40:28
Speaker 3: and it just we just didn't get it was the
40:32
Speaker 3: the the second touchdown, so he hold him to two touchdowns.
40:35
Speaker 3: The second touchdown where is I think it was the run.
40:41
Speaker 3: It's from the two yard line and he got bounced
40:45
Speaker 3: off from the safety. Peyton Bowen was reached. He was
40:49
Speaker 3: Peyton Mahome Bowen was grabbing him, trying to pull him
40:51
Speaker 3: back away from the goal line, and then somebody else
40:54
Speaker 3: came and hit him and he kind of fell in.
40:56
Speaker 3: So you know again, Yeah, you give me these stats
41:02
Speaker 3: on defense and you say, hey, this is what you're
41:05
Speaker 3: gonna hold Tennessee to ild say, good, that means that's that's.
41:10
Speaker 2: What we're gonna win. That means we're gonna win.
41:12
Speaker 1: I would have said you was lying. If you would
41:13
Speaker 1: have told me that that that that we would have had,
41:15
Speaker 1: they would only got a three hundred and forty five
41:17
Speaker 1: yards in this game. This offense is very prolific, right, this,
41:20
Speaker 1: This is Hypel has put together some elite offenses. Heck,
41:24
Speaker 1: he was putting up five hundred yards on Obama Georgia.
41:27
Speaker 1: They may have lost those games. They were putting up
41:29
Speaker 1: the numbers. They're not they they put up numbers. And
41:33
Speaker 1: I told y'all this coming into this game, and I'm
41:38
Speaker 1: gonna keep repeating this to you all. Next year it's
41:42
Speaker 1: gonna be it. It's gonna be another ball game. Dog Like,
41:45
Speaker 1: I am terrified of how good Nico is gonna be
41:48
Speaker 1: next season. Oh, he needed seasoning. He's a red shirt freshman. Also,
41:52
Speaker 1: he just needs seasoning. But Hype makes it so easy
41:54
Speaker 1: for him. And because this is just Hypel's thing, right,
41:56
Speaker 1: this is he's grown. I remember in twenty fourteen we
42:00
Speaker 1: had Trevor Knight. Everyone was complaining about the offense. You
42:02
Speaker 1: remember that, Coop, Yeah, I remember that era of everybody
42:06
Speaker 1: complaining about the offense and we need to fire joshipel
42:08
Speaker 1: y'all remember that. I do. Pepperidge Farms remembers too. That
42:12
Speaker 1: was basically the word around here is fire Josh Pipel.
42:16
Speaker 1: He's terrible. Look at him now. It took sometimes. You
42:21
Speaker 1: got to move around and grow your grow your acklaman
42:26
Speaker 1: and make some adjustments and grow and learn. Our defense
42:30
Speaker 1: has done that. That's what That's what Brent Vinnables did.
42:33
Speaker 1: Everybody a lot of people wanted to Brin Vnables fired
42:35
Speaker 1: in the twenty tens, twenty twelves. He leaves, he goes
42:38
Speaker 1: to Clemson, he makes adjustments. I remember reading about him
42:41
Speaker 1: going to Iowa State and checking out their three three
42:44
Speaker 1: five defense just to see what that looks like. Cook
42:46
Speaker 1: go into the defensive line. Guess what happened. I don't
42:49
Speaker 1: know if you knew this, but we went to our
42:51
Speaker 1: base three five most of this game, the whole game,
42:55
Speaker 1: and we were getting pressure the entire game. Like yes,
43:00
Speaker 1: PFF gave these calculations. So PFF gave us credit for
43:05
Speaker 1: six sacks in this game, even though the official taalities
43:07
Speaker 1: only three. They gave us credit for six. And I
43:09
Speaker 1: think the reason is is because of those scrambles by
43:11
Speaker 1: Nico where he got right there at the line of scrimmage,
43:14
Speaker 1: that those don't count as sacks if it's a no game,
43:17
Speaker 1: they only count as a no gang, right, But we
43:24
Speaker 1: were out there putting the getting the hurries on. We
43:27
Speaker 1: had five hurries we got credited for in this game
43:30
Speaker 1: from them, but we made it very tough for Nico.
43:35
Speaker 1: We got a lot of pressure. Trace Ford was all
43:37
Speaker 1: over the place, Robert Spiers, Jennings a heck of a
43:40
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. Danny Stutsman shout out for them two.
43:43
Speaker 1: But that defensive line man, they were making life hell
43:49
Speaker 1: for the Tennessee front. And I know Tennancy's offensive line
43:52
Speaker 1: is actually solid, but when that right tackle went out,
43:55
Speaker 1: you start to see where the struggles came in for
43:57
Speaker 1: them too, Like quick, real quick. Our edges were doing
44:03
Speaker 1: pretty well and getting in because you saw a Nico
44:06
Speaker 1: scrambling a lot. Nico would move and that was a
44:08
Speaker 1: good thing about him too, is he he can know
44:09
Speaker 1: how to move the pocket and move, move with your.
44:12
Speaker 3: Eyes, and and you know, Niko is gonna be a
44:16
Speaker 3: guy who as he gets bigger, they're gonna be able
44:19
Speaker 3: to run him a little bit more. But all it
44:21
Speaker 3: took was that I think he was in the first
44:23
Speaker 3: quarter manor early he ran out. I think we had
44:29
Speaker 3: like as a third and fourteen or something like that,
44:31
Speaker 3: and he took off running and he came up on
44:33
Speaker 3: Kip Lewis and he just kind of he just kind
44:36
Speaker 3: of folded up because he I mean, he's still extremely
44:39
Speaker 3: slight at six six. I mean, so, I mean, I
44:42
Speaker 3: think he'll become a bigger runner, but I mean I'll
44:45
Speaker 3: put I'll put this on you know, I.
44:46
Speaker 1: Don't think he will be I think that for them,
44:50
Speaker 1: the smart thing of course to do is let him
44:54
Speaker 1: scramble and let him get down all the time. I
44:57
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think he's gonna ever become
44:59
Speaker 1: a run ou personal. It's it's just it feels like
45:03
Speaker 1: it's not safe to do that.
45:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's but I will say this, and let's put
45:12
Speaker 3: it on recording. I bet you nobody holds Tennessee like
45:15
Speaker 3: this the rest of the year.
45:17
Speaker 1: Oh No.
45:18
Speaker 2: Offense wise, Yeah, I mean.
45:20
Speaker 1: The molsest thing you're gonna get is maybe Georgia maybe
45:23
Speaker 1: how anything Georgia does it?
45:25
Speaker 3: No, And but yeah, I mean it Listen, Tennessee came in.
45:30
Speaker 3: They they coach hypool. I mean, he did what he
45:35
Speaker 3: was supposed to do and he won. I mean that
45:38
Speaker 3: was it. I mean he came in won and with
45:41
Speaker 3: a what was it to you know, like is it
45:43
Speaker 3: you know two to three? You know, two thirds of
45:47
Speaker 3: the game Tennessee had the ball, and so it's, uh,
45:51
Speaker 3: it's it's it's kind of I mean, it's kind of funny,
45:54
Speaker 3: you know, to be in this spot to where we're
45:57
Speaker 3: asking for anything. It was a little bit easier for us,
46:00
Speaker 3: so U fans when we were scoring a bunch and
46:03
Speaker 3: couldn't stop a nosebleed, because at least we got fireworks
46:06
Speaker 3: when we scored. And now it's it's it's just not
46:11
Speaker 3: the same. I mean, it's it's just not the same.
46:13
Speaker 3: You know, we had a top five offense last year
46:16
Speaker 3: and people were pissed and so yeah, it's but yeah,
46:20
Speaker 3: I mean here's the thing is, like I said, for
46:22
Speaker 3: the defense, these guys are going to continue to get
46:24
Speaker 3: out there and play every single one of these guys
46:27
Speaker 3: have the opportunity in front of them, they are continuing
46:30
Speaker 3: to believe in themselves. I hope that this player led
46:35
Speaker 3: team with a lot of these guys being you know,
46:38
Speaker 3: leadership leaders on the defensive side of the ball, I
46:40
Speaker 3: hope they go over to the offense and say, hey, man,
46:42
Speaker 3: we got you right now, continue to grow, continue to
46:45
Speaker 3: go because we need you, We absolutely need you. And
46:50
Speaker 3: and so it's if anything, if Oklahoma told anybody anything
46:54
Speaker 3: to anybody.
46:54
Speaker 2: It's that Bret Venable's you know, year three defense. It
46:57
Speaker 2: is legit. So yeah, I means.
47:00
Speaker 1: For preventables, just like a year three defenses, like a
47:03
Speaker 1: year three offense with Sarkejian and his guy, or a
47:07
Speaker 1: year three offense with Hypel and his dude. Right, like
47:10
Speaker 1: you saw last year where the struggles that Tennessee had
47:13
Speaker 1: was with Joe Milton, right, he just he just didn't
47:16
Speaker 1: make the decisions fast enough. Now you gotta do like
47:19
Speaker 1: Nico who makes decisions fast enough. Looks more like Hiden
47:22
Speaker 1: Hooker's out there right even as a red shirt freshman.
47:26
Speaker 1: And that was the thing even with Jackson, is that
47:27
Speaker 1: you can tell that he's not making the decisions fast enough. Like, dude,
47:31
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. So but the D line I'm
47:33
Speaker 1: happy with. We saw some j Jackson, we saw David Stone.
47:36
Speaker 1: I think Stone got out. Did he get a tag
47:38
Speaker 1: off for the loss?
47:40
Speaker 2: I do believe. Hold on, I got him right here.
47:43
Speaker 2: He did get a TfL.
47:44
Speaker 3: So he got in and you know, I love his
47:47
Speaker 3: energy and every anytime he comes on the field, I
47:50
Speaker 3: mean he absolutely has himself. If he is involved in
47:54
Speaker 3: any play, he gets lit up, and I love it
47:56
Speaker 3: just because that was one of the things a lot
47:58
Speaker 3: of people had questions about him, is his his care
48:01
Speaker 3: and his drive and so yeah, I mean I'm I'm
48:03
Speaker 3: pretty excited.
48:04
Speaker 2: You know, I love to love to see him getting
48:06
Speaker 2: in there.
48:07
Speaker 3: Uh Jehan Terry and you know half sack halfl I
48:09
Speaker 3: mean we had off ESPN it says we have three
48:12
Speaker 3: sacks and nine tackles for loss.
48:16
Speaker 1: Which I should have on her on the especially didn't
48:18
Speaker 1: put it back on the screen. Here's the ESPN numbers.
48:22
Speaker 3: And some of those some of those TFLs, I mean,
48:26
Speaker 3: they weren't like guys just getting drugged down in the
48:28
Speaker 3: backfield like that Lewis Carter one. I mean that was
48:31
Speaker 3: they balled. Trace Ford had himself a nice little game.
48:35
Speaker 3: You know, he has not had a sack in two years.
48:38
Speaker 1: I know, right, And Gabe had mentioned that on the
48:41
Speaker 1: Oklahoa breakdown. He had said he had a picture of it.
48:44
Speaker 1: Zero zero sacks here at Oklahoma is what he had
48:47
Speaker 1: on there, basically. And hey, guys, first one he did good. Right.
48:52
Speaker 1: I like to see more Catan Willard me and you
48:54
Speaker 1: talked about that in the Green Woe. I like to
48:55
Speaker 1: see more him because I know that he has the
48:57
Speaker 1: strength in the explosion. We need want burst, especially as
49:00
Speaker 1: we're getting further and further into SEC play. Right, we're
49:05
Speaker 1: opening up at Auburn as a minus four favorite. We're
49:11
Speaker 1: favored by four points there, which means that if we
49:13
Speaker 1: were at home, we would be a touchdown favorite minimum
49:18
Speaker 1: against Auburn. Right neutral site, Actually I'm sorry, neutral site,
49:24
Speaker 1: we would be a seven point favorite. At home, we
49:27
Speaker 1: would be a ten point favorite. Yeah, six point swing
49:32
Speaker 1: from home to the road. Ten point favorite. That sounds
49:37
Speaker 1: excessive with the way that we played, right, four point
49:40
Speaker 1: favorite sounds excessive. That tells me that something is up,
49:46
Speaker 1: and Vegas smells something coming from us, So go for it,
49:52
Speaker 1: all right, Ferry Murray, thank you for the two bucks.
49:54
Speaker 1: How big is the gap between oh you now and
49:56
Speaker 1: making the CFP. I ain't making no CFP. That's not yeah,
50:07
Speaker 1: it's that's not I mean in the radar, we're we're
50:11
Speaker 1: we we are in the first four out. I think
50:14
Speaker 1: the best this team can do is ten and two
50:17
Speaker 1: at this point.
50:21
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I said ten and two at
50:23
Speaker 3: the beginning of the season. I said two people are
50:25
Speaker 3: going to get no, it was going to be between
50:27
Speaker 3: uh tennessee ole miss here.
50:30
Speaker 2: I mean, it's.
50:32
Speaker 3: Let's see what happens with Hawkins, because he is going
50:35
Speaker 3: to give you more. And if you have I mean,
50:38
Speaker 3: if you have an offense that can functionally, Yes, in
50:41
Speaker 3: college football, playoff is the goal.
50:43
Speaker 2: I mean national change.
50:45
Speaker 1: Why do you play college football to win a championship?
50:49
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that that's it. Now.
50:50
Speaker 3: Some teams show out and they come to the game
50:53
Speaker 3: and you know they're they're just hoping to get to
50:57
Speaker 3: a bowl game. That's not what this program's about. And
50:59
Speaker 3: so there will be calls start. I mean it started
51:04
Speaker 3: week one. People were calling after Latrell Week one. The
51:08
Speaker 3: offense literally has not broke three hundred yards yet. And
51:11
Speaker 3: this offense is a problem and it is. It is
51:14
Speaker 3: multifaceted between quarterback play, blocking, attention to detail.
51:19
Speaker 2: Do your damn job. Do it, better be passionate about it.
51:23
Speaker 3: Do something because this is the university to where like listen,
51:27
Speaker 3: I expect now Oklahoma to be an absolute major player
51:31
Speaker 3: in the transfer portal in a lot of different ways
51:35
Speaker 3: because you cannot and I said this about Texas, and
51:37
Speaker 3: I said this about Alabama, and I say about everybody.
51:40
Speaker 3: You cannot believe and trust is it is fallacy to
51:44
Speaker 3: be able to trust into freshmen to come in and
51:47
Speaker 3: carry you to a national championship. They need to be contributors.
51:51
Speaker 3: These big star guys like Ryan Williams, they got to
51:53
Speaker 3: be contributors. But you can't lean one hundred percent in
51:57
Speaker 3: on freshmen. So you're going to have to hit the
51:58
Speaker 3: transfer portal. But also you're going to have to get
52:01
Speaker 3: the transfer portal. And those guys are going to have
52:03
Speaker 3: to do their damn job here at Oklahoma because Dion
52:07
Speaker 3: Burks Deon Burks might as well run cross country right
52:10
Speaker 3: now with all the ridiculous motion that he's running on offense.
52:14
Speaker 1: Jay.
52:14
Speaker 3: I mean, he probably ran one hundred and fifty yards
52:17
Speaker 3: in motion the other night. And I was like, why
52:20
Speaker 3: why is this?
52:22
Speaker 2: Why? Like what's the point?
52:25
Speaker 1: So?
52:26
Speaker 3: But again, like I said, Seth Traill's now him and
52:29
Speaker 3: Joe John Finley are on an eight game job interview.
52:33
Speaker 2: That's my personal opinion.
52:35
Speaker 3: And because I promise you this is a lot of
52:38
Speaker 3: people called it a lazy hire.
52:40
Speaker 2: But Seth Latrell had a track record.
52:43
Speaker 3: So did Seth Watrell's offense not fit Jackson Arnold or
52:49
Speaker 3: did Jackson Arnold not be it?
52:50
Speaker 2: Was he unable to grasp it?
52:51
Speaker 3: It seems like Jackson Arnold is a is a guy
52:54
Speaker 3: who has issues when things start start sliding. He does
52:58
Speaker 3: not seem that the mint toughness is there yet. Can
53:02
Speaker 3: it get there?
53:03
Speaker 2: Man? I hope so and Jay.
53:06
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for. But so people are talking here talking
53:09
Speaker 1: about South Carolina, which is kind of funny to me.
53:11
Speaker 1: Lenora Sellis isn't playing right now. Robbie asht is their quarterback.
53:14
Speaker 1: You know where Robbie Ashid played last year? Most people
53:18
Speaker 1: notice last season he was at Auburn and he couldn't
53:21
Speaker 1: win that job over Peyton Thorn.
53:26
Speaker 2: And now Peyton Thorn's struggle by two.
53:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm supposed to be afraid of that. If Lenora
53:31
Speaker 1: Sellers was playing. I totally because's when the South Carolina
53:33
Speaker 1: was humming Robbie. Ain't it guys, He's not their defensive
53:40
Speaker 1: defensive line. The line is really solid. But I do
53:43
Speaker 1: want to say some praise real quick though, real quick,
53:47
Speaker 1: and is mentioned here in the chat. I feel so
53:51
Speaker 1: bad for r I KD kend adobe that's located ankle. Uh.
53:57
Speaker 1: First reports were coming out that it was broken, and
54:00
Speaker 1: when BV did his interview, did his post game, someone
54:05
Speaker 1: corrected him and said, no, it's dislocated, which is great
54:08
Speaker 1: to hear. He probably have surgery, expecting to be gone
54:11
Speaker 1: for the year. But I would love for him to
54:14
Speaker 1: come back.
54:15
Speaker 3: Absolutely love to him for having him come back, because
54:19
Speaker 3: he's I think, great leadership, great character, he's a team
54:23
Speaker 3: team guy. He's a he's a he's a great team guy.
54:27
Speaker 3: And you know, I sent him a you know, send him,
54:30
Speaker 3: send him a message last night and hopefully he's already
54:34
Speaker 3: hopefully he's already seen it. But many it's a it's
54:39
Speaker 3: next man up. And so I don't know if you
54:41
Speaker 3: saw reg said it in here a few minutes ago,
54:43
Speaker 3: but Reggie did play on special teams this week and
54:46
Speaker 3: he'll be the backup cheetah, you know behind om Sego
54:51
Speaker 3: coming in.
54:52
Speaker 1: So I did miss the I did miss that. Thank
54:55
Speaker 1: you RP Junior. Appreciate You've got a super chat, Lee Bird.
54:58
Speaker 1: Thanks for the two bucks. Appreciate it has since already
55:01
Speaker 1: been called to the office. Yes, you know BV is
55:05
Speaker 1: having that conversation with him. Now there's anything I know
55:08
Speaker 1: that BV is doing. He's having that conversation. I'm not
55:11
Speaker 1: going to argue or even think that it's not it is.
55:15
Speaker 3: And also Terry Tritton twenty two blocking seams are beating
55:20
Speaker 3: bo yep.
55:22
Speaker 2: And so.
55:25
Speaker 1: Also also real quick and keep your thought in your head.
55:30
Speaker 1: Kendall Dobe is only a senior. He never red shirt.
55:33
Speaker 1: He came JUCO, so he does have a red shirt
55:36
Speaker 1: available in which they probably will redshirt him.
55:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if he wants to, he's going to be
55:43
Speaker 3: a nickel in the NFL. Like that's that's that's his trajectory.
55:47
Speaker 2: You know, he may be.
55:48
Speaker 3: Able to be a third safety type of a guy,
55:50
Speaker 3: but most likely nickel pretty much the same situation, special
55:53
Speaker 3: teams guy.
55:54
Speaker 2: That guy just has heart, he has soul.
55:56
Speaker 3: Uh, he just gets he has a nose for the
55:58
Speaker 3: football and that you know that that's that's not like
56:02
Speaker 3: a soft tissue don contact injury like, I mean, that
56:05
Speaker 3: was just that was just ugly.
56:07
Speaker 2: I saw it.
56:08
Speaker 3: It was right right out in front of us when
56:11
Speaker 3: it happens, and man, you could tell the Tennessee guys.
56:15
Speaker 3: They they turned their heads and a couple of guys
56:16
Speaker 3: went down on their knee immediately.
56:18
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I mean.
56:19
Speaker 3: It's hate that for him, but yeah, I mean, here's
56:24
Speaker 3: the thing is, if you are if you're Bill beating
56:26
Speaker 3: Bow or sorry, if you are Brent Vennables and you
56:31
Speaker 3: care about this university and you care about this job,
56:34
Speaker 3: you got to do the right thing. And most tendency
56:36
Speaker 3: fans say that, you know, oh you made a mistake
56:39
Speaker 3: by you know, booting Josh Iipel.
56:41
Speaker 2: No, because Josh Shippel's offense kind of looked like this.
56:44
Speaker 3: It was quarterback who had shown glimpses and he just
56:47
Speaker 3: could not get it done and we could not make
56:50
Speaker 3: it happen. And Joshipel is better because of it now.
56:53
Speaker 3: And so I'm not I'm not going to say that
56:56
Speaker 3: Seth Latrell is zero chance of being the football coach
56:59
Speaker 3: here Oklahoma next year.
57:01
Speaker 2: But this is Brent Venables.
57:03
Speaker 3: I mean, his job depends on this, and you know,
57:06
Speaker 3: the narrative around him right now is in jeopardy that yeah,
57:10
Speaker 3: you can create a great defense, but can you be
57:12
Speaker 3: a great head coach? And so he needs to have
57:16
Speaker 3: it coming to Jesus meeting legitimately literally alphabetically, you know, horizontally,
57:20
Speaker 3: every single adverb that you can come up with. But
57:23
Speaker 3: that needs to be happening this week to where you
57:27
Speaker 3: need to find out what the best offense is to
57:30
Speaker 3: create around Michael Hawkins Junior going forward and you know,
57:34
Speaker 3: your pride be damned, just.
57:37
Speaker 1: Go forward, and I think we will right Like this
57:39
Speaker 1: offense was built. This was the same offense that Jackson
57:41
Speaker 1: All ran in high school, so he focused on that.
57:44
Speaker 1: Hawkins rented kind of a different type of spread set
57:47
Speaker 1: up at Frisco Emerson, and he was a one man show.
57:51
Speaker 1: And I can totally see them trying to find a
57:54
Speaker 1: way to get him to where not all he can slide,
57:56
Speaker 1: but make it good for him. Everybody's pointing out the
57:58
Speaker 1: grounds keeper, Yes, the groundskeeper left, like or he think
58:03
Speaker 1: he got a job with like a golf course and
58:05
Speaker 1: we have a new guy there, and so yeah, they're
58:07
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, work through all the new guy stuff,
58:10
Speaker 1: so hopefully it does get better. Brandon Whiteley says OU's
58:14
Speaker 1: offense hasn't been the same since kil Gundy left. Weren't
58:18
Speaker 1: we like top five.
58:19
Speaker 3: With Levy five last year? I mean last year's Levy's offense.
58:23
Speaker 3: What pissed people off about Lebby's offense is in different time,
58:28
Speaker 3: in different scenarios.
58:29
Speaker 2: He just he went potato. I mean that that was it.
58:34
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I mean you got to
58:36
Speaker 3: say in year three you've had I mean, you've had
58:41
Speaker 3: no clear increase, and but like I said, where do
58:45
Speaker 3: you start. It's too many things happening right now. You
58:50
Speaker 3: got injuries across the board. You have obviously a young
58:54
Speaker 3: quarterback who wasn't ready. You have wide receivers who are
58:59
Speaker 3: I mean guys who are doing the wrong thing, go
59:01
Speaker 3: in the wrong place. So it's it's what, at what
59:04
Speaker 3: point do you walk into your house being leveled and
59:08
Speaker 3: decide which room to start in, Like, it's you got
59:10
Speaker 3: to start somewhere and you got to start getting it
59:12
Speaker 3: in there. I don't think that you can just decide
59:14
Speaker 3: to not have injuries anymore. So you got to continue
59:17
Speaker 3: to work on it because a lot of these players
59:19
Speaker 3: they got to do their freaking jobs and they got
59:20
Speaker 3: to do it better.
59:22
Speaker 2: It's it's it's inexcusable too.
59:26
Speaker 3: I mean literally, So Jay, did you see the the
59:29
Speaker 3: it's first first of all first starts for the first down.
59:33
Speaker 3: Are we ready to get back in the offense because
59:35
Speaker 3: this might be another way?
59:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, but before you before you do that from a
59:40
Speaker 1: couple of supers, thank you uh Klemba fourteen for the two.
59:46
Speaker 1: Thank you Jesse Reid for the two. If y'all got questions,
59:48
Speaker 1: drop them in the check we'll make sure to address those.
59:54
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, go ahead, Coop.
59:56
Speaker 3: All right, So it starts a first down with fifteen
59:59
Speaker 3: first downs. The first fifteen first downs, we had seven
1:00:06
Speaker 3: total yards, three turnovers, and a safety through the first
1:00:10
Speaker 3: fifteen first downs. So Barnes, the very first one is
1:00:18
Speaker 3: how you start the game off. I mean, it gave
1:00:21
Speaker 3: you a trend. Fourth, the game was going to look
1:00:22
Speaker 3: like bad snap, bad blocking. We get the ball handed
1:00:28
Speaker 3: off and Barnes basically holds onto the ball to get
1:00:31
Speaker 3: sat I mean, to get dropped for five yard loss.
1:00:33
Speaker 3: There was so much wrong with the first snap of
1:00:36
Speaker 3: the game. It was it was ridiculous second one Arnold
1:00:41
Speaker 3: incomplete pass. Third one Arnold run for a loss of
1:00:44
Speaker 3: two yards. Number four passed to Burks for three yards,
1:00:47
Speaker 3: three positive yards. I think the crowd actually cheered when
1:00:51
Speaker 3: that happened. After a turnover, Arnold interception, incomplete pass, zero yards.
1:00:57
Speaker 3: Dion Burks runs for seven yards. Arnold incomplete pass, Thompson
1:01:03
Speaker 3: catch for twelve yards.
1:01:05
Speaker 2: The only really good play.
1:01:07
Speaker 3: On first down saw Shock run for no gain, Arnold fumble,
1:01:12
Speaker 3: Barnes two yard run for a safety. After a false
1:01:16
Speaker 3: start by Heath Osida pass to Barnes for negative two yards,
1:01:22
Speaker 3: Arnold backward pass fumble. So yeah, I mean, it's you
1:01:28
Speaker 3: gotta I mean, if your offense is is crap, you
1:01:33
Speaker 3: can't add more yards to do it, or create a
1:01:36
Speaker 3: do I mean, do turnovers. I mean, it's just listen,
1:01:39
Speaker 3: there are so many different things that are wrong with
1:01:41
Speaker 3: that offensive side of the ball, but you've got to
1:01:44
Speaker 3: be able to come up with something. Tatum. I'm a
1:01:47
Speaker 3: little pissed off about Tatum too, Jay, because because Tatum
1:01:53
Speaker 3: got hurt, he staggered back to the backfield and they
1:01:58
Speaker 3: were running hurry up, and they handed him the damn
1:02:00
Speaker 3: ball off again like they were trying to avoid a
1:02:03
Speaker 3: play a review, and then he wobbled his butt to
1:02:07
Speaker 3: the sideline and was out for the rest of the game.
1:02:10
Speaker 3: Hearing it, you know, looks like a concussion. That's all
1:02:13
Speaker 3: I'll say. I don't want to report injuries.
1:02:15
Speaker 1: But.
1:02:17
Speaker 3: It just seems like nobody Jackson Arnold had no Jackson
1:02:21
Speaker 3: Arnlold and the offensive staff just across the board. They
1:02:25
Speaker 3: just don't see way too many things. And that's why
1:02:28
Speaker 3: you saw Hawkins with more with more success, because.
1:02:33
Speaker 2: He sees things better.
1:02:36
Speaker 3: There were times that I thought he was about to
1:02:37
Speaker 3: get dropped for a sack and he ran for eight yards.
1:02:41
Speaker 3: He kept scorting through and Jackson Arnold too. There were
1:02:45
Speaker 3: multiple times they ran a quarterback draw Jacksonarnold. I think
1:02:48
Speaker 3: it might have been second, second down, second or third down,
1:02:52
Speaker 3: first drive of the game. Jackson Arnold takes a step
1:02:56
Speaker 3: left and he runs for twenty yards.
1:03:00
Speaker 2: Jacksonarl Let's do that.
1:03:02
Speaker 3: He runs straight into the back of his offensive lineman,
1:03:05
Speaker 3: rolls off and you know it still was a little
1:03:07
Speaker 3: bit so.
1:03:10
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:03:10
Speaker 3: I mean, with all the injuries and everything, you got
1:03:12
Speaker 3: to start somewhere. And I think that, uh, it falls
1:03:16
Speaker 3: first and foremost on the players because Seth Latrell didn't
1:03:21
Speaker 3: teach Jackson Donald to panic and throw the ball on
1:03:25
Speaker 3: a short hop to uh to Brendan Thompson and let
1:03:29
Speaker 3: it bounce off his face mask.
1:03:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's true.
1:03:34
Speaker 3: He also didn't let Jackson Donald roll out when you're
1:03:39
Speaker 3: supposed to do a shovel pass to the tight end.
1:03:42
Speaker 3: The whole offense is playing for a shovel pass to
1:03:45
Speaker 3: the tight end. And then he throws into triple coverage
1:03:49
Speaker 3: and gets the pick. And then he also didn't he
1:03:54
Speaker 3: all so no, he he threw into it through the
1:03:57
Speaker 3: ball behind. He just threw the ball behind people. I mean,
1:04:00
Speaker 3: that's not coaching, that's just execution. The players have to
1:04:03
Speaker 3: actually do their job also on offense, because on defense
1:04:07
Speaker 3: they're doing it. And I remember year, years years back,
1:04:10
Speaker 3: I remember watching the Chicago Bears. I mean, I want
1:04:12
Speaker 3: to say it was in the either early nineties or
1:04:15
Speaker 3: or late nineties or early two thousands. Chicago Bears defense
1:04:18
Speaker 3: was was. I mean, they were it. They were absolutely it,
1:04:23
Speaker 3: and the offense could not do anything they I mean
1:04:27
Speaker 3: they were losing yards.
1:04:29
Speaker 2: Bears go out and get it, get to get a turnover.
1:04:32
Speaker 3: Offense would turn around and turn it back over and
1:04:34
Speaker 3: people were losing it at each other on the sideline
1:04:37
Speaker 3: and there were fights between the two units. That's not
1:04:41
Speaker 3: that's not what's happening right now, and I hope to
1:04:44
Speaker 3: God that that's not where it gets to. But the
1:04:47
Speaker 3: offense has to actually, you know, they they got to
1:04:51
Speaker 3: start taking some things seriously. And I'm hoping, absolutely hoping,
1:04:55
Speaker 3: and Rainy I agree with you.
1:04:56
Speaker 2: I see that.
1:04:58
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that pedaway An Hawkins found a little something
1:05:03
Speaker 3: late in that game and found some chemistry because those
1:05:05
Speaker 3: are two guys that I think could do a lot
1:05:07
Speaker 3: of good together.
1:05:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I just need the offense to start complimenting
1:05:15
Speaker 1: this defense. Please, let's not waste this really really defense
1:05:18
Speaker 1: the thing that we say, Like, I just saw tweak
1:05:20
Speaker 1: from Joe clapt He watched the game and he talked about, uh,
1:05:25
Speaker 1: the interior from Tennessee's interior defensive line was whipping up
1:05:32
Speaker 1: on us, and Any immediately pointed out, oh, us defense
1:05:36
Speaker 1: as he kept them in this game. That tells you
1:05:40
Speaker 1: enough that you need to know. That's literally all you
1:05:41
Speaker 1: need to know is that if I mean Joe Clatt
1:05:45
Speaker 1: looked at that and said, now we got defense our
1:05:47
Speaker 1: defense is good. And yeah, the fact that he said that,
1:05:55
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that that that that really shocked your boy
1:06:01
Speaker 1: real quick. I know that Furry asked this question a
1:06:03
Speaker 1: long time ago, but I want to kind of point
1:06:04
Speaker 1: this out real quick. There was a young recruit that
1:06:09
Speaker 1: came to town, Trey Taylor. I believe Trey is a
1:06:16
Speaker 1: twenty seven. I don't really talk about kids, and he
1:06:19
Speaker 1: he's a twenty seven. That's not a real year six
1:06:21
Speaker 1: to one QB, but one that we offered he came
1:06:24
Speaker 1: to visits is a third visit Oklahoma. And here's this
1:06:26
Speaker 1: quote that he said about the offense, especially seeing Jackson
1:06:31
Speaker 1: o'nold get pulled out for Michael Hoffins. He said, I
1:06:33
Speaker 1: love the offense once they put the freshman and you
1:06:35
Speaker 1: could really see the explosive plays that can come from it.
1:06:39
Speaker 1: And he said about that offensive proformances, it actually makes
1:06:42
Speaker 1: me like it more so. He likes the challenge, and
1:06:45
Speaker 1: this is kind of was on point earlier. He said,
1:06:47
Speaker 1: seeing that the coaches are willing to do what's needed,
1:06:49
Speaker 1: Jackson had a rough day, they didn't hesitate to go
1:06:51
Speaker 1: to the freshman. I love seeing that. That's what a
1:06:53
Speaker 1: lot of kids feel. Kids really liked the idea of
1:06:57
Speaker 1: being able to play early if people aren't produced. That's
1:07:01
Speaker 1: that recruiting on top of each other type thing. That's
1:07:04
Speaker 1: that recruiting layers. That to me is a really really
1:07:12
Speaker 1: really good thing, right, that that recruits are seeing that. Okay,
1:07:16
Speaker 1: if I outperform them, they're gonna play me. They're not
1:07:19
Speaker 1: gonna tell me I can't play. They're gonna let me play.
1:07:21
Speaker 1: So to me, that's a big deal. They're on the
1:07:24
Speaker 1: recruiting side. All Right, we're gonna wrap this up, put
1:07:26
Speaker 1: a bowl on it. I'm hungry, and Coop, I need
1:07:28
Speaker 1: you to get some sleep. You gotta be tired. Talk
1:07:33
Speaker 1: to me. What's your final thoughts before we roll out?
1:07:39
Speaker 3: I mean I think that, uh, I mean, this defense
1:07:46
Speaker 3: is going to give us a chance in every single game.
1:07:50
Speaker 2: And now we are in bizarro bizarro world that Tennessee.
1:07:57
Speaker 3: You know, I said this week one, two, three that
1:08:01
Speaker 3: we didn't make anybody look like a Heisman winner, and
1:08:05
Speaker 3: then they were going to go out and get just
1:08:07
Speaker 3: trounced and look like absolute fools, you know, the next
1:08:11
Speaker 3: week against you know, far inferior competition. I mean, Nico
1:08:17
Speaker 3: is going to be He's going to be in the
1:08:18
Speaker 3: conversation for the Heisman, and he is going to be
1:08:22
Speaker 3: somebody who continues to put up numbers that Tennessee defense was.
1:08:26
Speaker 3: I mean, they are very very good. That that defense
1:08:29
Speaker 3: front is very very very good. Those defensive backs are opportunistic.
1:08:34
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm going to go this, this could
1:08:39
Speaker 3: be a blessing disguise because if we had a.
1:08:44
Speaker 2: If we had a.
1:08:47
Speaker 3: You know, piss poor, you know defense that our offense
1:08:50
Speaker 3: was struggling and just got us close and we lost
1:08:53
Speaker 3: a close game, I don't think changes happen. And so
1:09:00
Speaker 3: I'm thinking that this is what happens.
1:09:03
Speaker 1: Uh.
1:09:04
Speaker 3: You know what is it in I think Rocky two, three, four,
1:09:08
Speaker 3: you know, every all of the Rocky movies is he
1:09:11
Speaker 3: goes up against superior, tough competition, you know, mister t
1:09:17
Speaker 3: Ivan Drago and gets you know, he goes against these
1:09:20
Speaker 3: guys and they expose him and he has to look
1:09:23
Speaker 3: internally and find out what he wants to be about.
1:09:26
Speaker 3: And I think that that's what this team has to
1:09:28
Speaker 3: do on the offensive side of the ball right now.
1:09:31
Speaker 1: It is going to be creative at this point.
1:09:34
Speaker 3: It is because listen, running up the running up the
1:09:37
Speaker 3: middle is not the answer for this team, and I
1:09:41
Speaker 3: do want to say this is bringing in guys who
1:09:44
Speaker 3: have been hurt like Aka Kunmi. I love Daniel, I
1:09:47
Speaker 3: love him, I text him all the time. But bringing
1:09:50
Speaker 3: in more young guys is not the answer. Because you
1:09:54
Speaker 3: saw the jet Pick six, you know, two weeks ago
1:09:57
Speaker 3: or last week from Jackson. That was when you bring
1:10:00
Speaker 3: in a young guy that everybody was calling for, Let's
1:10:02
Speaker 3: get a young guy, let's go get somebody in there,
1:10:04
Speaker 3: and then it was an immediate turnaround. You can't bring
1:10:09
Speaker 3: all of them in at once. Now, I will say this,
1:10:12
Speaker 3: Now there's time to have a conversation of all right, guys,
1:10:16
Speaker 3: we're gonna start rotating more kids in here, because if
1:10:19
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to do it because of injury, we're
1:10:21
Speaker 3: gonna let somebody else have a shot at it. So,
1:10:24
Speaker 3: speaking out of both sides of the mouth, I just
1:10:25
Speaker 3: think that, you know, now is the time to where
1:10:27
Speaker 3: all jobs are open for discussion and guys who are
1:10:32
Speaker 3: going to come out and play, you know, because again
1:10:33
Speaker 3: I don't give a damn how well you practice Monday
1:10:36
Speaker 3: through Friday. That means jack crap to me. At this
1:10:38
Speaker 3: point going forward, I'm tired of hearing it. It is
1:10:41
Speaker 3: absolutely ridiculous for guys to play great on Tuesday because
1:10:46
Speaker 3: guess what, I can't see those stats on ESPNJ yep,
1:10:50
Speaker 3: I can't.
1:10:51
Speaker 2: I can't see them.
1:10:52
Speaker 3: And so we got to see guys who want to
1:10:56
Speaker 3: want to get out there and do it because you know,
1:10:58
Speaker 3: I feel bad because I don't want I said, I
1:11:00
Speaker 3: don't want to waste this defense. I also don't want
1:11:03
Speaker 3: our defense to have to play every single snap so
1:11:07
Speaker 3: that you can't develop younger kids too. I want to
1:11:10
Speaker 3: be able to see I want to see, you know,
1:11:12
Speaker 3: I want to be able to see some of these
1:11:13
Speaker 3: younger kids get opportunity to get in there because we
1:11:16
Speaker 3: don't have to, I mean, depend on our defense to
1:11:19
Speaker 3: hold people, you know, single digits in order to have
1:11:21
Speaker 3: a shot out a game. So I also don't want
1:11:24
Speaker 3: to be the you know, the Oklahoma Hawkeyes.
1:11:26
Speaker 2: So I saw that earlier too.
1:11:28
Speaker 3: We you know, there was a lot of that going
1:11:30
Speaker 3: around in the stands, and so you know, these most
1:11:33
Speaker 3: Oklahoma fans you know, calling for everybody to get fired
1:11:37
Speaker 3: like that.
1:11:37
Speaker 2: That ain't gonna help us out right now. So it
1:11:39
Speaker 2: is time. You know.
1:11:40
Speaker 3: The thing that we can fix Jay is like I
1:11:43
Speaker 3: said earlier, it's it's now that players have to take
1:11:46
Speaker 3: it upon themselves to get better, and let's let's let's
1:11:49
Speaker 3: continue to make baby steps.
1:11:52
Speaker 1: Yep. I always want to take baby steps, take our time,
1:11:54
Speaker 1: continue to do what we're doing, because in the long term,
1:11:57
Speaker 1: that's gonna get us the dubs. All right, let's trap
1:12:00
Speaker 1: it up, put a bowl on it. Shout out to
1:12:01
Speaker 1: the my team, y'all been in there working. Y'all don't
1:12:04
Speaker 1: really don't have to delete people, delete messages. You don't
1:12:06
Speaker 1: have to worry about that. I need everybody to learn
1:12:08
Speaker 1: how to avoid trolls because that's we're gonna get trolls regardless. Right,
1:12:11
Speaker 1: disrespectful stuff feel free, but trolling. Ignore them. That's what
1:12:16
Speaker 1: they're here for. Most of them don't have lives like right,
1:12:20
Speaker 1: Like I know my Texas fans that pull up that
1:12:23
Speaker 1: appreciate talking ball. You know who you are, right, I
1:12:26
Speaker 1: don't need to name all of you. I know who
1:12:28
Speaker 1: you are. We don't trip on that we like ball,
1:12:31
Speaker 1: you know. We like guys like talking ball, right, y'all
1:12:34
Speaker 1: like scouting the competition, and I appreciate that you enjoy ball.
1:12:38
Speaker 1: Trolls Ignore them. That's what they're that's what fans are.
1:12:41
Speaker 1: Fan fanatics like to go out there and lose their
1:12:43
Speaker 1: mind and troll. So let them enjoy themselves with that,
1:12:46
Speaker 1: all right, But my team, we really appreciate what y'all
1:12:49
Speaker 1: are doing. Keep doing your thing, taking care of the people.
1:12:53
Speaker 1: And yeah, as long as we keep this defense, which
1:12:55
Speaker 1: it looks like year over year over year, our defense,
1:12:59
Speaker 1: of course has improved and it's going to continue to improve.
1:13:02
Speaker 1: Next season's defense is gonna be ridiculous too, especially because
1:13:04
Speaker 1: that linebacker room is really good. Like, if anybody wants
1:13:07
Speaker 1: to complain about Brent Vnables, I mean, I like when
1:13:10
Speaker 1: you complain about him, but I don't have a problem
1:13:13
Speaker 1: with it. But are we not seeing what this defense
1:13:17
Speaker 1: is doing? I mean, I get that we traded one
1:13:18
Speaker 1: for the other, and everyone loves when a quarterback can
1:13:20
Speaker 1: go save every single game. Aren't y'all tired of that?
1:13:24
Speaker 1: Because I'm kind of tired of that. I actually want
1:13:25
Speaker 1: a defense to be able to end the game now.
1:13:27
Speaker 1: I just need the offense to give us some decency,
1:13:30
Speaker 1: which I think with Michael Hawkins we will. And someone
1:13:32
Speaker 1: asks I think that Dominic asked here in the comments
1:13:35
Speaker 1: a minute ago about the quarterback we've been hearing about Hawkins.
1:13:38
Speaker 1: Why wasn't he implemented earlier. I think there's probably a
1:13:41
Speaker 1: reason why. And there's nothing against Michael Hawkins. It's probably
1:13:45
Speaker 1: just him being ready ready. Like I mean, y'all saw
1:13:47
Speaker 1: the first snap, what happened, fumbledoo. It's nothing against him,
1:13:51
Speaker 1: it's just it happens. It's just one of those. You
1:13:53
Speaker 1: got to get him into the groove. And so the
1:13:55
Speaker 1: good thing is that now he's gonna get the opportunity
1:13:57
Speaker 1: to play. And remember I said this at the beginning
1:14:00
Speaker 1: of the show. If he makes a mistake out, I'm
1:14:03
Speaker 1: complaining and ask him to be pulled next. Not all
1:14:06
Speaker 1: of you, but those that do complain will be the
1:14:08
Speaker 1: loudest people will be saying he needs to come out
1:14:11
Speaker 1: the game next. He's gonna make some mistakes. We get
1:14:14
Speaker 1: to watch him grow up in live, but I think
1:14:17
Speaker 1: his grow up is gonna be a lot more decisive.
1:14:20
Speaker 1: In comparison to Jackson Arnold, I feel like Jackson Arnold
1:14:23
Speaker 1: just was not making decisions, like he was so working
1:14:26
Speaker 1: so hard to not make a mistake that he was
1:14:28
Speaker 1: making mistakes. Because that interception Ian Burks was perfectly open
1:14:32
Speaker 1: for the touchdown he threw it. If he threw it
1:14:34
Speaker 1: to Hester two seconds earlier, that's a big game because
1:14:39
Speaker 1: Hester was open, but he didn't see the corner that
1:14:42
Speaker 1: started sliding back. Hit Burkes across the middle. Throw it
1:14:46
Speaker 1: over that linebacker's head, which you like throwing the by high.
1:14:48
Speaker 1: Anyway you got, you know, you'd been fine. He would
1:14:50
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1:15:07
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1:15:10
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