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The Late Debate | 10 September · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome the late pay.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. I'm James Macpherson with Liz stra
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  Speaker 2: and Caleb Bond. Coming up the Queensland government's latest health
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  Speaker 2: campaign encouraging people to do a pooh at work.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm not making that up. I wish I was.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it and show you their campaign tax wealth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that's all you're going to show us, James.
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  Speaker 2: The election cannot come soon enough. Plus when we look
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  Speaker 2: at the papers, a Greens MP skipping parliament to join
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  Speaker 2: an anti war protest, of course, and the Teals announce
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  Speaker 2: the price for their support in the event of a
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  Speaker 2: hung parliament. And I'll give you a spoilers. It's not small.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that shortly. But first, police
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  Speaker 2: communications are being questioned after a man suspected of throwing
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  Speaker 2: hot coffee over a nine month old baby in Brisbane
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  Speaker 2: last month managed to evade capture. Now the man fled
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  Speaker 2: the scene, leaving baby Luca with horrific burns to his
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  Speaker 2: face and his body. His mother went on radio describing
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  Speaker 2: the attack and saying there was no doubt it was deliberate.
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  Speaker 4: He knew exactly what he was doing that day, and
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  Speaker 4: I knew that from how he threw this liquid onto
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  Speaker 4: my son, I knew it was an attack straight away.
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  Speaker 4: And the other fact that he ran away, changed his clothes,
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  Speaker 4: went to another location and changed his clothes again. You
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  Speaker 4: left Queensland obviously within twenty four hours, and then left
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  Speaker 4: the country. He knew exactly what he was doing, which
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  Speaker 4: is just unthinkable.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Police asked the public for help in locating the suspect,
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  Speaker 2: describing him as Tan. It was up to you and
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  Speaker 2: I to guess that when police said tan, what they
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  Speaker 2: meant was of Asian appearance. By the time police identified
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  Speaker 2: the man, he'd already fled the country. Former Australian Federal
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  Speaker 2: Police Superintendent David Craig says the entire incident raises questions
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  Speaker 2: about the way in which police had chosen to communicate
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  Speaker 2: the incident.
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  Speaker 3: Here he is on sunrise this morning.
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  Speaker 5: I think the fact that he wasn't accurately reported in
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  Speaker 5: the media. His description was reported as a proportionate person
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  Speaker 5: of tan skin, thirty to forty years old, Well, that
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  Speaker 5: doesn't narrow it down very much. And I think when
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  Speaker 5: a baby has been injured, attempted murder, if you like,
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  Speaker 5: then we need to call out exactly who we are
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  Speaker 5: looking for. These are not racial philification terms. These are
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  Speaker 5: identifying terms of a serious victim. He should have been
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  Speaker 5: called out a man of Asian appearance, just like we
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  Speaker 5: do with Southeast South Pacific Islanders or person of Caucasian appearance.
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  Speaker 5: It didn't happen quick enough in this game.
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  Speaker 2: Now, of course, we don't know why the police chose
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  Speaker 2: not to use the term Asian, and nor are we
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  Speaker 2: suggesting that was the definitive factor in him being able
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  Speaker 2: to evade capture.
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  Speaker 3: But it does raise the.
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  Speaker 2: Question more generally, Liz and Caleb, have we now reached
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  Speaker 2: a point where authorities are afraid to use certain adjectives
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  Speaker 2: even to describe crimes and identify suspects, for triggering members
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  Speaker 2: of the population, And that surely has dangerous implications.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you would have to wonder whether this
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  Speaker 6: is a case of political correctness gone too far. And
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  Speaker 6: of course, you know it's up to the cops to
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  Speaker 6: explain why they did or did not immediately release the
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  Speaker 6: detail that they believed he was of Asian appearance.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, we all saw the image there.
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  Speaker 6: I think you and I and everyone at home could
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  Speaker 6: say that he was of Asian appearance. So why could
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  Speaker 6: the police not just say that upfront, and particularly now
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  Speaker 6: we know that this fellow has abscondered, he has left
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  Speaker 6: the country.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine if you had known that.
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  Speaker 6: Detail a lay person in Queensland, if you had known
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  Speaker 6: that detail, that you weren't looking.
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  Speaker 1: For someone of tanned appearance.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, for heaven's sake, after you've been on holiday, James,
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  Speaker 6: I might say you are a man of tanned appeople.
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  Speaker 6: I'd be a man of a very good point, as
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  Speaker 6: I was after I came a from Queensland a couple
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  Speaker 6: of weeks.
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  Speaker 7: But you don't say that we wouldn't want to offend
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  Speaker 7: any beat.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 6: We certainly would not all the alcoholics who are suffering
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  Speaker 6: with redness in the face. But you know, it would
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  Speaker 6: seem such a basic thing to say he was a
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  Speaker 6: man of Asian appearance. And the fact we weren't told that,
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  Speaker 6: you'd have to say, is a complete bungling.
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  Speaker 1: Of the police.
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  Speaker 6: As for why they did it, I mean, who knows.
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  Speaker 6: I think they need to explain it. They need to
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  Speaker 6: come out and say, now, why we weren't immediately told
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  Speaker 6: that if they could tell that he had a darker
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  Speaker 6: shade of skin. Well, surely they had the opportunity to
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  Speaker 6: see his face and know what his ethnicity might have been.
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  Speaker 7: And Luca's mum would have known that too. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: if someone's throwing scalding hot coffee on your baby, one
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  Speaker 7: of the first descriptors she would have given them was
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  Speaker 7: it wasn't a man of Asian appearance.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, this isn't rocket science.
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  Speaker 7: Why would the police not want to give absolutely every
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  Speaker 7: descriptive you possibly could to catch someone who is sick
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  Speaker 7: enough to throw a skull beveridge on an infant?
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  Speaker 8: Do you want to find him or not?
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  Speaker 7: And now this begs the question would he have been
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  Speaker 7: found if such details had been released to the public,
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  Speaker 7: if they'd simply been told this is someone of Asian appearance.
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  Speaker 8: Because we know that he.
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  Speaker 7: Crossed several suburbs by foot, he caught a train, He
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  Speaker 7: then caught a car to Sydney, where he boarded an
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  Speaker 7: international flight and fled the country. So how many people
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  Speaker 7: saw him in the course of fleeing on foot, catching
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  Speaker 7: a train, getting into a car to Sydney that might
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  Speaker 7: have otherwise been able to identify him now will never know.
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  Speaker 8: I would be utterly ropeable.
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  Speaker 7: If I was Luca's mum, if that was your baby,
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  Speaker 7: and the police hadn't even bothered to say we are
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  Speaker 7: looking for a man of Asian appearance.
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  Speaker 3: Well, your rhetorical question, how many people saw him?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the answer is none, because no one was
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  Speaker 2: looking for animated appearance. Everyone's taking a two weeks on
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  Speaker 2: the beach in Queensland exactly. It reminds me of a
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  Speaker 2: story from the UK in June where a transgendered woman
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  Speaker 2: had been missing for two months and there were genuine
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  Speaker 2: fears about the welfare of this man identifying as a woman,
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  Speaker 2: and so police put out an alert. But they described
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  Speaker 2: this person, who went by the name Sarah as her
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  Speaker 2: she a woman. They made no mention of transgenderism or
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  Speaker 2: the fact that it was a biological male, and so
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  Speaker 2: they're expecting the public to find a man when they're
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  Speaker 2: putting out a descriptor for a woman. And in this instance,
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  Speaker 2: as I said, there were genuine concerns about the welfare
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  Speaker 2: of this person, and it seemed like police were more
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  Speaker 2: concerned about using correct pronouns and descriptors politically correct ones,
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  Speaker 2: rather than actually finding the person. And when you can't
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  Speaker 2: trust law enforcement, of course I'm not saying that this
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  Speaker 2: about this particular incident here in Brisbane, but more broadly,
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  Speaker 2: when you can't be sure that law enforcement are giving
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  Speaker 2: you all the information, then who can you trust? And
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  Speaker 2: it leaves us in a pretty precarious situation when trying
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  Speaker 2: to help the welfare of people or indeed track down offenders.
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  Speaker 6: And as the former superintendent who we played the clip
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  Speaker 6: from him before, David Craig, said, you know, it's not
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  Speaker 6: racist at all to identify that someone might be of
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  Speaker 6: Asian appearance. It's just to say, well, that's what the
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  Speaker 6: person looked like.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if it were you or I.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure they'd say it was of Caucasian appearance. One
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  Speaker 6: wonders what they would say if it was a black man,
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  Speaker 6: for instance. I mean, you can't say he's tanned, unless,
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  Speaker 6: of course he's a.
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  Speaker 1: Very light black.
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  Speaker 6: So what would you do in that circumstance. And it's
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  Speaker 6: pretty typical to see if say someone is of African
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  Speaker 6: appearance sort of like, it's not unusual for the cops
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  Speaker 6: to come out with that detail. And so given this
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  Speaker 6: is one of the first cases we've seen in this
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  Speaker 6: country of it not being forthcoming I think we've got
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  Speaker 6: to ask the question and the cops owe us the
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  Speaker 6: answer as to why it wasn't told. Because if this
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  Speaker 6: is something that might happen going forward where we're not
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  Speaker 6: immediately pretty obvious descriptive details about someone, how can we
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  Speaker 6: ever fight crime?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 7: And this is something that has been so prolific for
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  Speaker 7: quite some years now in the UK and America. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: the memes now run large is to is the media
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  Speaker 7: going to tell us an accurate description of this person,
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  Speaker 7: because they would just be to all this bombing occurred
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  Speaker 7: or this stabbing occurred, and until there was actually a
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  Speaker 7: screenshots of the individual as we have shown you this evening,
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  Speaker 7: everyone's been up in arms saying why didn't you say
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  Speaker 7: you were looking for a black man? Why didn't you
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  Speaker 7: say you were looking for someone who fits this particular description.
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  Speaker 8: So we know that this is.
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  Speaker 7: Something that has become a very regular malady in our
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  Speaker 7: other western countries. So like you say, to have the
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  Speaker 7: first what appears to be the first instance of it
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  Speaker 7: here in Australia, it's like, come on, guys, do you
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  Speaker 7: want to catch the culprit?
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  Speaker 2: On just my last point on this, it's not polite
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  Speaker 2: to withhold the descriptive tech insulting because it implies they're
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  Speaker 2: afraid that average Joe Blow in Australia can't cope with
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  Speaker 2: being told some information without then stereotyping every person he sees.
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  Speaker 3: On the street. It's not polite, it's insulting to the
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  Speaker 3: general populace.
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  Speaker 7: Indeed, like, oh, white people would be like they said,
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  Speaker 7: a Caucasian throw a hot beverage on this baby, as
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  Speaker 7: if white people could care less. We just want to
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  Speaker 7: catch the sicko that did this for crying out loud
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  Speaker 7: to Germany now, where the state elections last week have
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  Speaker 7: triggered a political earthquake because the AfD party, known as
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  Speaker 7: the far right wing, very anti mass immigration party, did
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  Speaker 7: incredibly well in Thuringia. They got twice as many votes
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  Speaker 7: as the three ruling establishment coalition parties combined. In Saxony,
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  Speaker 7: they came a very close second to Angela Merkle's former.
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  Speaker 8: Party, the CDU.
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  Speaker 7: So the government is now put on notice by the
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  Speaker 7: German people. We are sick of the immigration rates. We
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  Speaker 7: are sick of the crime that these immigration people are
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  Speaker 7: bringing to our country. Check out this headline from four
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  Speaker 7: months ago. The government's own website in Germany, a test
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  Speaker 7: to the fact that foreign migrants account for nearly six
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  Speaker 7: in ten crime suspects in Germany despite only comprising fourteen
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  Speaker 7: point six percent.
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  Speaker 8: Of the population.
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  Speaker 7: Of course, that was four months ago, so there's now
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  Speaker 7: more immigrants in Germany than there was then, and Germans
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  Speaker 7: have sent a sign to their governments we are absolutely
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  Speaker 7: sick of this.
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  Speaker 8: Funny thing happened on the back of that.
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  Speaker 7: Election because the AfD had done so well, they had
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  Speaker 7: this one seat that was going to give them a
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  Speaker 7: voting block in parliament, and all of a sudden, nothing
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  Speaker 7: to see here, but all of a sudden they were told, oh,
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  Speaker 7: actually there's been a miscalculation, some sort of computer problem,
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  Speaker 7: and that one seat that would have given the AfD
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  Speaker 7: a voting block in parliament was then given to a
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  Speaker 7: different party. But the government has not had completely deaf ears,
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  Speaker 7: because we learned today that they've decided to take some
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  Speaker 7: firmer measures regarding the immigration.
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  Speaker 8: Rates in Germany.
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  Speaker 7: Germany's government has announced plans to impose tighter controls at
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  Speaker 7: all of the country's land borders, in what it called
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  Speaker 7: an attempt to tackle irregular migration and protect the public
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  Speaker 7: from threats by threats. It's talking about Islamist extremism, which
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  Speaker 7: has been the streets of Germany have been fraught with
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  Speaker 7: it for many, many months now, and again the Germans
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  Speaker 7: are absolutely sick of it. I find this interesting off
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  Speaker 7: the back of last night's story talking about Hungary telling
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  Speaker 7: the EU, you guys can get stuffed. We are not
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  Speaker 7: allowing illegals into our country, and if you do insist
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  Speaker 7: that they come here, we're busting them to Brussels on
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  Speaker 7: a one way ticket. And we said last night it
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  Speaker 7: would be good to see more European countries stand up
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  Speaker 7: to the EU and say you can't force us to
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  Speaker 7: take illegal migrants or legal migrants against what we see
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  Speaker 7: as the interests of our national sovereignty. And here, just
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  Speaker 7: one day later we're seeing this play out in Germany.
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  Speaker 7: But notice all the media are calling this a very
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  Speaker 7: controversial call. This is very controversial, and it may not
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  Speaker 7: some posit, it may not even be legal.
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  Speaker 8: Only time will tell.
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  Speaker 7: I love that some of these European countries this time,
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  Speaker 7: it's only because the Germans have given them such a
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  Speaker 7: belting at the state election. The parliament knows we've got
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  Speaker 7: to act on the otherwise we're dead in the water.
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  Speaker 7: We almost gave the AfD a voting block. We have
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  Speaker 7: to be seen to do something about this.
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  Speaker 8: Power to the people. It looks like it's actually happening.
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about it last night and then here we
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  Speaker 2: are Germany making changes already. So clearly the late debate
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  Speaker 2: having incredible influence all over the world.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll tell you the other.
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  Speaker 2: Thing that probably tipped them into taking action was the
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  Speaker 2: stabbing to death of three people, of all things, a
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  Speaker 2: diversity festival in the city of Zulian back in June.
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  Speaker 2: And there was laws about that. Sorry, not in June,
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  Speaker 2: it was last month. There was outrage about that. This
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  Speaker 2: was a Syrian migrant who actually hid in an asylum
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  Speaker 2: refugee hostel before he was eventually caught.
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  Speaker 3: Isis claimed responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: And so you've got a festival celebrating diversity, celebrating the
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  Speaker 2: fact they've brought all these people, it's millions of people
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  Speaker 2: they've brought into the country, and people are getting stabbed
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  Speaker 2: at that event. So there's huge there's white hot anger.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, And that's only the most recent Again, just
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  Speaker 7: like the UK, this has been playing out for a
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  Speaker 7: very long time now and Germans have had it up
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  Speaker 7: to here. I mean, under Angela Merkel, millions of illegals
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  Speaker 7: and legal migrants we're is flooding into Germany. Germany is
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  Speaker 7: no longer Germany, and I don't think it ever will
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  Speaker 7: be the Germany that we've all known and loved for
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  Speaker 7: a very long time.
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  Speaker 8: It just won't be.
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  Speaker 7: You can't let that many people into your country without
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  Speaker 7: it fundamentally changing forever.
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  Speaker 6: And THEU only has itself to blame for this pushback
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  Speaker 6: against what is happening now because where Germany sits in
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  Speaker 6: terms of is landlocked in Europe, it sits in a
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  Speaker 6: zone that is generally free movement. Anyone can come and
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  Speaker 6: go as they wish. Germany's finally gone. Hang on a minute,
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  Speaker 6: this isn't working out for us. We need to take
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  Speaker 6: control back of our borders for our country, regardless of
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  Speaker 6: our ties to the EU. And that's why the reporting
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  Speaker 6: has said, you know, it could be legally fraud. Because
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  Speaker 6: we talked last night about the case with Hungary where
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  Speaker 6: they're in trouble because they have refused access to asylum seekers,
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  Speaker 6: cracked down on that significantly. The EU then told them, well,
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  Speaker 6: if you don't play by our rules, we're going to
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  Speaker 6: find you. They then refuse to pay the fine. Now
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  Speaker 6: they've got a two hundred million euro fine sitting there
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  Speaker 6: that they've got to pay by mid month, and if
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  Speaker 6: they don't pay it, the EU is going to dock
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: their funding out of the EU budget. And as you said,
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  Speaker 6: I mean they said, we'll just bust them all into Brussels.
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  Speaker 1: If that's what they want.
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  Speaker 6: They've said it, stick it up yours, which Germany is
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  Speaker 6: now starting to do as well. And so you've got
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  Speaker 6: Hungry and you've got Germany, but they need more countries
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  Speaker 6: to get on board because no doubt the EU, like
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  Speaker 6: they did to Hungry, will launch some kind of legal
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: challenge or they will threaten fines or other sanctions against
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  Speaker 6: Germany for doing this. They've initially said it will be
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  Speaker 6: a six month trial, but one imagines that if that works,
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  Speaker 6: which you imagined.
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  Speaker 1: It will, if they do it properly, then it will.
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  Speaker 6: Just continue long after that. So they need other nations
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  Speaker 6: to on board and do the same thing. Because you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's great that Germany is now on board, but if
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  Speaker 6: you've still only got two European countries in the wilderness
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  Speaker 6: standing up for themselves and no one else backing them,
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  Speaker 6: you know, standing behind them and doing the same. Then
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  Speaker 6: they will come up against the same might of the
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  Speaker 6: EU that Hungry faced, and the danger is that they
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  Speaker 6: will start to back down.
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  Speaker 1: They can not back down. The people have voted for it.
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  Speaker 6: We know what they want, and ultimately what they voted
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  Speaker 6: for is less say.
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  Speaker 1: From the EU.
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  Speaker 6: And as I said last night, it's no wonder that
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: the UK pulled out of the EU. Brexit went ahead,
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  Speaker 6: and that's essentially what we need to start seeing here
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  Speaker 6: countries pushing back and saying no, no, we want our sovereignty back.
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  Speaker 6: We're happy to be part of a trade packed or
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  Speaker 6: whatever it might be in terms of some form of EU,
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  Speaker 6: but we fundamentally want our sovereignty back because the experiment
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  Speaker 6: of the EU having total control has not worked.
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  Speaker 8: That.
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  Speaker 2: The other interesting part about this is that the German
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  Speaker 2: governments specifically mentioned Islamic extra as the reason they want
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  Speaker 2: to close their borders, and that's interesting talk, especially coming
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  Speaker 2: from Germany. They tend to be very reticent to be
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  Speaker 2: that specific about what the real issue is. So maybe
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  Speaker 2: this represents a start we can only hope of a
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  Speaker 2: turning point in Europe.
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  Speaker 7: Well, you do wonder if this is the beginning of
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: the end of the EU. What kind of parliament is
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  Speaker 7: forcing sovereign countries to take in.
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  Speaker 8: More and more foreigners.
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  Speaker 7: You can't do that, and more and more countries are
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: saying so. It was months ago we had the EU elections.
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: France was just completely like, we hate this.
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  Speaker 8: We won out and voted for these far right members
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: to get into.
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: The EU because they were like, for crying out loud,
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: you guys stand up for us, because they're also sick
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: to the back teeth of a lot of Islamic migration
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: into France, which again is another country which is unrecognizable
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: from the France of yesteryear. Is that we all knew
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: and once loved. But I do hope that this is
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: the beginning of a revolution. The UK paved the way,
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: said we're out of here. You guys suck, You're not
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: about the UK, you don't care about what's best for.
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: Us, So we are leaving.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: How many more countries may one day stand up and
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: do the same, because right now we're looking at populaces
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: in these countries who are all definitively voting against.
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: What's happening in the EU.
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: And if they were to have a Brexit vote of sorts.
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: I have no doubt France would be out, Hungary would
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: be out, Germany would be out if it went to
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: a democratic election where it was up to the people
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: of those countries, and who knows how many more would
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: also vote to lead.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: Liu just sees the dollar signs more people in the
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: EU means a bigger economy, etc.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: That's all they're interested in.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: But of course individual countries know that it's all good
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: and well to have a bustling economy, but you've got
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: to have people who actually want to live in the country,
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: not just once been busting over the border. Let's go
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: to the US because, of course tomorrow will be the
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: first face off between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, the
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: first debate and probably the last debate since she became
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: the Democratic nominee replacing Joe Biden. You can watch all
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: the action here on scar News tomorrow from eleven a m.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: But what has Kamala Harris been doing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: To prepare for this debate? We know, of course that
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: she's been very reticent to do any interviews. She's only
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: done one interview so far, and she had her emotional
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: support candidate Vice presidential candidate Tim Waltz there holding her
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: hand the whole time. It only went for twenty six
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: minutes in pretty friendly territory with CNN. We know that
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: she does not want to front up, so she's got
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: to work over time to get herself ready to compete
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: against Donald Trump. Well what's she been doing. She's had
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: a bloke come in to pretend to be Donald Trump.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: She's in a hotel room with the stage lights like
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: we have here in the studio, pretending.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: She's talking into the man himself. Take a listen.
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: Vice President Kamala Harris. She is in her hotel in Pittsburgh.
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: They've got the lights as if it's in a studio,
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: they've got the stage. They've even brought in somebody who's
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: dressed in acting like the former president. And then we
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: know that the former president himself is just having sort
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: of informal policy discussions from what we understand, in preparation
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: for Tuesday.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, how good is that?
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: And I think it goes to the point that politicians
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: in America do not front up to the media, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: they don't front up to the public anywhere near as
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: much as politicians do in this country. Of course, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: the Prime minister is constantly interviewed on television. In Australia,
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: they constantly have debates in the lead up to elections.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: They're not so afraid to front the media because they
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: know how to deal with the media, whereas in the
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: US they shield them away.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: They don't have anything.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: To do with it, and so when they're faced with
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: something like this, they don't know what to do, which
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: is why Trump has a bit of an advantage in
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: these circumstances because Trump is a media man. He's been
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: an entertainer his whole life, so he sort of knows
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: how to conduct himself in these circumstances.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: The bloke who's.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: Been pretending to be Donald Trump, this isn't his first outing.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: He did this with Hillary Clinton back in twenty sixteen.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Philip Rains is his name. He dresses up, as we
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: heard before, like Donald Trump. Now we should specify, he
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: doesn't put a wig on to look exactly like him.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: It looks nothing like.
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: Well he did once he said that in twenty sixteen
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: he had a go at tanning his face a bit
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: to see if it could make him look a bit
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: more like Donald Trump, but no one particularly noticed, so
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: he gave up on that idea. But here's a little
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: kip of him preparing with Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen,
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: trying out to maybe a little bit.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Of violence post debate.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: At least he didn't grab a bother you know where,
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: and I assume won't see any of that sort of
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: conduct from Donald Trump tomorrow. Trump himself, though, asked what
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: he was doing to prepare for the debate well ta
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: to listen.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Har specifically preparing for the debate versus Harris. I'm not
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: really I'm not spending a lot of time on it.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I think my whole life we're preparing for a debate.
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: You know, you can go in and you can have
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: all sorts of sessions.
• 22:21
  Speaker 11: I watched Mick Romney go in and he worked so
• 22:24
  Speaker 11: hard he four weeks, he locked himself into a lock
• 22:27
  Speaker 11: cabit and then he developed luck jow.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: He couldn't couldn't speak.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I watched other people.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I mean you basically, you have to be real.
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: You know, you can't cram knowledge into your head, for
• 22:40
  Speaker 11: you know, thirty years of knowledge in one week.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, the whole idea and this is, you know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: quite possibly the event that could decide the way.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: A lot of people vote in this election.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: But the idea that you would be hold up is
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: Harris in a hotel room with like bright lights on
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: you like you're in the TV studio. You've got it
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: guy there who's pretending to be Donald Trump. If she
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: shows up tomorrow and fudges it, well, she's had every
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: opportunity not to.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: There's a couple of unique things with this.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, firstly, the debate tomorrow is the first time
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: apparently that Kamala Harris will have met Donald Trump. So
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: maybe the fact she's got an impersonator there is an
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: allusion to the fact that she's a little bit intimidated and.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Not sure what to expect.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Because Donald Trump has specified there are to be no
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: platforms used.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Because Kamala Harris.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Is only five foot four, Trump will tower over her,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: and there was a suggestion that maybe she'll find a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: little something to stand on to make herself look a
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: little bit more, you know, presidential compared to him. It's
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a ninety minute debate and no notes are allowed. As
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you said, she's only done one interview since accepting the candidacy,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: and it was with her Vice president nominee, who she
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: held hands with. The entire time, so I can well
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: imagine she is preparing NonStop. But I just love Trump,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and he proved why. He'll be brilliant with that. Just
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: a random quest question and what are you doing to prepare?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And immediately I'm not, And he makes the point brilliantly.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: He is going to wipe the floor with commandments.
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: In a word, he used the word authenticity. And whether
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: you like Trump or not, he is what he is
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: and he never pretends to be anything else.
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: Some would say that's to.
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: His detriment, but people have a built in BS meter.
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: We can tell when someone's faking it. We can tell
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: when they're trying too hard. We can tell when they're
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: sweating bullets while trying to look comfortable. You don't see
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: Trump do that because he is authentic. And I think
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: what we're going to see tomorrow, and I cannot wait.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: I've got my body weight in popcorn.
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: Ready to go. We will see that.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: We will see this woman who is quintessentially fake.
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: She does not have substance.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: We've been laughing about it for the better part of
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: three years now, versus Trump, who, like he said, I
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: am what I am. I don't even have to prepare
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: whatever the questions are I already know the answers. I'm
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: ready for this, I was born for this. That is
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: the massive difference that are people going to see tomorrow.
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: And you say you'll have your body weight in popcorn,
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Harris has to hope that she doesn't have her body
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: weight in word salads, because that is where she could
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: really fall apart tomorrow. We know with these presidential debates
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: generally there's not.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: A lot of policy substance.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: Certainly, the debate we saw between Biden and Trump, there
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: was no policy substance whatsoever. It was purely a personality
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: clash and that's probably what you will see again tomorrow.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: And so Harris really has to watch herself because we
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: know Donald Trump can ramble a lot, but you sort
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: of expect that of Donald Trump. He sort of goes
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: off on tangents and whatever. So if he can lead
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: her in the wrong direction, whether he knows he's doing
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: it or not, with his rambling, she can then fall
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: into that trap and go off into her word salads.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: At least you know where Donald Trump is going with
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: what he's saying, starts wheeling that stuff out tomorrow. I know,
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: again we all sort of expected, but this is something
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: that will be watched around the world, much like the
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: Biden debate was.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And if people take a look at that.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: And go, heck, perhaps we didn't pick much better than
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: we had last time. It could be the thing that
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: sinks her. That's what she would be really worried about.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: It is going to be highly entertaining and as Caleb said,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you can watch it here on Sky eleven am tomorrow
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Australian Eastern Standard time. One of the questions Kamala Harris
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: should be asked in that debate is what on earth
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: went on in Afghanistan. Of course, the Biden Harris administration
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: withdrew from Afghanistan and it was an absolute shamozzle. They
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: left billions of dollars worth of military equipment behind. Thirteen
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: servicemen were killed, as well as hundreds of locals, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: America's enemies around the world were absolutely emboldened not to
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: mention the fact that Taliban are now in control of
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Afghanistan after all those years and all that money and
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: all those lives spent trying to stabilize the country. Well,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: John Kirby, he's the National security spokesman for that White House.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: He was asked if anyone was ever going to take
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: accountability for what happened and have listened to his response?
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: Was anyone ever held accountable by the president directly for
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: what happened with the withdrawal in Afghanistan?
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: And if not, remind the audience why not.
• 27:18
  Speaker 11: We have all held ourselves accountable for the progress of
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: the withdrawal cross the administration. And it was a true
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: interagency effort to get those one hundred and twenty thousand
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: people out and to make sure we removed our diplomats
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: and our military personnel safely. As I said, ed not
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: everything went according to plan, nothing ever does.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Was anyone held accountable? Oh, we've all had ourselves accountable?
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Then why are you still there? Why haven't you fired yourselves? Liz?
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: When you hold yourself accountable, it means no one is
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: held accountable.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: In fact, the only.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: Wrong things go wrong, you know, nothing ever goes and
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: completely according to plans, So leaving the Taliban billion dollars
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: worth of the military clement. It's just one of those things,
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: you know, what happens when you're withdrawing after twenty years
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: in Afghanistan and leaving everyone to wonder, firstly, what the
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: heck was the point of that in the first place,
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: if you're gonna leave the guys that you were supposedly
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: going in to beat and wipe off the face of
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: the earth and conquer for good two decades.
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: You just you didn't manage that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: You leave between with your darrel between your legs, and
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: leave the Taliban better off than you found them with
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: you mute military capacity to the tune.
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: Of over seven billion dollars.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: But you know, these things happen. These things happen, you guys,
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: and it didn't go according to plan, and nothing ever does.
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: But we tried.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: But we've held ourselves accountable. So it's all good. Move on.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: I just I can't get know the fact that he
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: can say it with a straight face, and I know
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: that's his job as a press sect to you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: spin the absolute but Jesus out of these things. But
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: it's we're sitting here laughing about it, but it's not
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: really a laughing matter to say that, to say that, oh, well,
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: you know, not everything goes to plan, nothing ever does. Okay,
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: So you've by the actions you took, you have now
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: led to the widespread, once again subjugation of women in Afghanistan,
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: where they're now no longer allowed to play sport, they
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: can't speak out in public, they can't dance, they can't
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: do all the things that you would expect people to
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: be able to do. And of course, you know, you
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: often make the comparison of what the Middle East looked
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: like Iran, Afghanistan, you know, back in the sixties, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: what it looks like now. What was the objective of
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: going into Afghanistan if ultimately we pulled out and allowed
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: the Taliban to come back. When you pull out of
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: a country after going to war there, unless you have
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: set up something else to take over, you create a vacuum.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, the US created the greatest vacuum of all
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: time because, as you say, they left all the weapons behind.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Taliban just walked straight back in and said, oh, thanks
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: very much, mister.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Barden, you've got here for us.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: And by doing that, they have led to the deaths
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: of loads and loads of people, the subjugation of loads
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: and loads of people. They have left them in the lurch.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: They are scared for their lives, they're scared for their freedom, etc.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: And that is directly what the Biden administration did, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: they just go, well, some things don't go to plan
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: what was the plan in the first place.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: That response reminded me.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Do you remember when Hillary Clinton was asked about the
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: balls up in Benghazi and they had their diplomat who
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: was horrifically murdered. Rate it was just a disgrace, And
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: effectively she shrugged her shoulders and said, that's one of
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: those things. It's the same democratic response. So when things
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: go wrong, they shrug their shoulders and say, oh, well,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: you know you can't get it all right, and expect
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: everyone to move on.
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: But everyone does move on, which just curls.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Make they've got the media in their pocket.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, but everyday people should be watching this play out repeatedly.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: It's not the first time we've been here and just
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: say no.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: You floods have got to go.
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: We are not re electing you, Like, how can you
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: not then vote in their home state accordingly and say no, no, no,
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: we remember what you did and what you didn't do.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: You don't get to stay in parliament period.
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: Someone who has stayed in Parliament for far, far too long,
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: Former Speaker.
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: Of the House, Nancy Pelosi, has declared.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: That basically thirty percent of Republicans are racist, sexist homophobes.
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: Here she is during an interview letting them.
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: Have it, saying this is why, this is why this
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: certain amount of people will never vote Democrat, because this
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: is who they are to their core.
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: Why is it so close from your assessment as a
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: plic This is a guy who's done a lot of
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: things that you have characterized as thugs, the attack on
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: the Capitol, there is just the most the video that
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: came out where you're talking about he's got to pay
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: a price, it's clearly not paying any price. He could
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: win the presidency again.
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: There are people who will never shall we say, inclined
• 32:02
  Speaker 12: to support Democrats because of they just have a different
• 32:08
  Speaker 12: orientation to it. Whomen, people of color, LGBTQ, you know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 12: they just are not ever going to be there. So
• 32:15
  Speaker 12: say that's about like thirty percent or something like that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: And then of the Republicans, they're just you can't help
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: those people, you know, they're just they're in the two
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: hard basket. They're just sexist, racist, homophobes. This is such
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: old rhetoric from the Dems, and obviously they're piggybacking off
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: this caricature of Trump that they've created, and now the
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: label is applied to anyone who wouldn't support the Democrats.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: There's a biggest story here, though, that everyone is missing.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: She said thirty percent of Trump supporters a homophobic, sexist,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: and racist, but back in twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton said
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: fifty percent was enophobic basis.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: So it just shows Republicans are improving.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: All that's how far they've come, correct, even in eight years,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: and they'll practically be democratic.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: Well, and you mentioned Hillary Clinton back in twenty sixteen.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: You wonder whether this is Pelosi sort of basket of
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: deplorables moment. Have they not learnt that back in twenty sixteen,
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: insulting people who were thinking of voting for.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Trump did not work. It embolded them.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: It said, well, if you think I'm such a piece
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: of excrement, of course I'm going.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: To go and vote for Trump because you don't want
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: my vote.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: And that's exactly what Nancy Pelosi is doing here. I mean,
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: I know she's over the age of eighty and she's
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: dotttery and whatever.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But seriously, she should know.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: Of all people, she's been in politics long enough, she
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: should have enough nouse to know that you don't convince
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: someone to change their mind by insulting them. And that
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: is continually what people like her and Hillary Clinton have
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: gone for. If you want Trump to win in November,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: keep saying stuff like this because it makes them go, well,
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: if you don't want my vote, I'm going to go
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: and give it to someone else. Props to this guy,
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: by the way, Alex Steinger, Now you were you saw
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: that clip there? Pelosi was in Texas. She's been in
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: Texas launching her new book, and she was at her
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: book signing and this fellow mister Stinger, who is a comedian,
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: right wing comedian, approached her to ask a few questions
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: about her stock trading.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I know, I was listening.
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: I let me get at soul now, and I want
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: to say how much I appreciate your like fear staunched
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: the fanning of democracy.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: It really means so so much, you know, and.
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: You know, like honestly, like I'm really scared about, you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: Donald Trump winning the election.
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: And honestly, with Dolmand doesn't from me on that. I
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: was like, you know, I honestly, do you one chance
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: to like that? We have as to doctor Donald Trump
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: to actually send.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: The rest of his wife in prisoner. We do all
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Nancy Lesson for.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Me, whats what stock should I buy?
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: Nancy, You're the greatest options trainer of all time, is
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: one of the most stocks.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: And for that he got dragged away. By the way,
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: you should pay attention to what stocks she's buying. She
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: never seems to lose, does Nancy Pelosi. Before we get
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: to the break curious image we saw the other day
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: of Zara and Marke Tindall, of course of the royal family,
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: and they were at the Burly Horse Trials in Lincolnshire
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: in the UK. And I note that the kids sporting
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: Magic Millions caps here, so good on them for celebrating
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: Australian horse racing. But on their eldest child, you can
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: see hanging off the belt loop on her shorts is
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: an Apple tag. Now you can use an apple tag
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: to track something. People often put them on their luggage,
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: They put them on their pets and stuff to see
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: where they're going to. They've seen fit to put one
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: on their child to track her, and it raises the question,
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: you know, is it acceptable to be tracking your child
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: all the time via the means of internet as they
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: seem to be doing there. I can see an argument
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: for doing it at a big event like that, You know,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: I suppose it's every parent's worst night mere that you
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: lose a kid in the crowd and you'd like to
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: be able to find them. I mean, you know, you
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: and I and many of us might remember once upon
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: a time, you know, you'd write a phone number on
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: a kid's arm at a big event like the Royal
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: Show or something, so if they got lost, they knew
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: he is who to call to get mum and dad.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: But the idea that you would track beyond that in general,
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: I find a bit weird, particularly when it gets into
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: teenage years, because you're taking away any level of trust
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: in a child. And I think it's important to give
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: children a level of trust, because we know they stay
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: at home longer and longer, and they're so infantilized these
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: days that you've actually got to give them a little
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: bit of room to look after themselves and take some responsibility.
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's got to do with trust at all.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: It's got to do with duty of care, because you
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: can have the most trustworthy sixteen year old who makes
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: a dumb decision, climbs into the wrong car some uber driver.
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think parents can underestimate how evil
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: some people are out there this day, in this day
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: and age.
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: Sadly, this is now the world that we live in.
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: We open the show talking about some random sicko who
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: dowsed a baby in a boiling hot coffee. No reason,
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: no relation, no just ran up and committed this crime.
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: I think parents have every right to be as vigilant
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: as they possibly can be, regardless of the age of
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: their kid.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I wish i'd been tracking my son when we're in
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: New York and I lost him in What's What's the park.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Park in New York. We're bike riding, and I lost
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: him for forty minutes. Eventually I saw a.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Police card down the road and some kid with a
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: bike and the bike was being put in the boot.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I thought my son I got there. Fortunately it was him,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: but my son was mad because he said Dad, I
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: was just thinking about to get a ride in an NYP.
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: So is less concerned.
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: Happy to mail child though as well, because you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: if it's a girl, you are just on the highest
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: of alerts.
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: And that is what Mia, the Tyndall's eldest child is.
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: So I don't blame them one bet.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break, but stick around
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: when we come back with what's making news in the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: papers tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: That's alone.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: and for Tasmanians, you are going to love the front
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: page of the Mercury.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: It's pretty good, is it?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Casey Oh, this is the best news ever.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: What council stopwork could mean to you? No finding zones
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: as the headline. The Hobart City Council is facing a
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: substantial hit to its revenue as a dispute between staff
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: and management threatens to boil over into industrial action, which
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: could include work stoppages and a refusal.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: To collect parking fines from the community. How good is this?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: We should see a lot more of this now.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: The problem here is because the workers are complaining about
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: the pay rise they've been offered, which is three percent.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: They want a bit more and so in response they said,
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: we'll bugger it. We're not going to find people for overstaying.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: They're welcome in parking spots.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Good, let's have this all the time.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: I'm imploring, and you know, normally I wouldn't be here,
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: you know, shouting out the unions and saying how great
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: they are and how good it is to have strikes.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: But I'm saying every council worker in the country should
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: go on strike tomorrow and threaten to not collect parking
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: fines in order to get a pay rise, because I'm
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: pretty sure they're going to praie rise quick, smart and
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: we'll all be able to enjoy it from.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: More industrial action.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: Here first, on the Lake debate last week, we were
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: talking about the Victorian police force who wants a pay
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: rise from the Victorian government which has no money.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: So good luck with that boys.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: But they have said, well, we're just not going to
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: give out parking fines I mean speeding fines rather. So
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: Victorians rejoice because as long as it's industrial action is
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: in place by.
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: The cops, maybe you can travel a little bit faster
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: on your roads these days.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I just want to use this opportunity to encourage in
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: your South Wales police you need more money, especially traffic branch.
• 40:14
  Speaker 13: Yeah, you need to put it down absolutely to the
• 40:18
  Speaker 13: front page of the OARS Now steggle Teals demand seventy
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: five percent emissions reductions, that is by twenty thirty five.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: Zalie Stegel has led Teal MPs in calling for a
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: twenty thirty five emissions reduction target of seventy five percent
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: to be set by February, in line with Anthony Albanesi's
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: own timeline, declaring Australia quote must go from being a
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: laggard to a leader in climate action end quote.
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: God forbid.
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: But here we have the Teals and the Greens really
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: starting to reveal their ridiculous terms for if you guys
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: get a hung parliament and you guys need a bedfellow
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: in US, here's our terms of engagement.
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: What I can't get over is why they're doing it
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: this early on in the peace.
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: I would wait until labor is in that jam before
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: you lay your terms on the table and say, well,
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: either you're paying it or you're not.
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: Well, you don't want us to do a deal with you.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: Doesn't really matter whether you say it now or then.
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: Labor may well be in the same position, right If
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: these are the people they have to negotiate with, these
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: are the people they have to negotiate with.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And clearly they are so.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: Confident that we're going to have a hung parliament that
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: they're like, well, bugger it, let's just put it out
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: there now.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Let it swim around for a while. Scare Albanisi a.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: Little bit, because what they would hope is that either
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: they get their way in terms of a hung parliament
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: or Albanizi is scared into implementing these policies before the election.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Either way, it doesn't really matter to them, right.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: But the best possible scenario here maybe is that Albanize
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: does get the support of the Green of the teals
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: it is a total disaster three years on from now,
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: and then you'll have coalition rain for fifteen years after that.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: There's another possibility here, and that is like, if it's
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: a hung parliament, then they will be front page headlines,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: right because they'll have the deciding factor. But if there's
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: not a hung parliament, then they need to make headlines
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: now while it could be a possibility.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Because otherwise they're completely irrelevant.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: So there is that. The scary thing is she's not
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: just saying seventy five percent missions reduction. She's saying at
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: least that's the minimum they're asking for, so God help
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: us if that ever eventuates. Let's go to the front
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: page of tomorrow's Herald Son Cops and Bludgers reads the
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: headline controversial Greens MP Gabrielle d Vitry has been slammed
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: for ditching parliament to join an anti war rally, while
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: taxpayers fork out up to fifteen million dollars for police
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: to try to keep the public safe. Now, as of tomorrow,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: there's a government sponsored weapons expo taking place in Melbourne,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: one eight hundred extra police officers being deployed to keep
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: the peace, and of course those police officers would normally
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: be issuing speeding fines or keeping the public safe, but
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: they're all being as I said, diverted to mark this protest.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: And you've got a Greens MP who's being paid to
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: be in Parliament representing her constituents, but she's taking the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: day off just to be a very highly paid protest.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't expect anything less from a Green's member though, would.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: You No, But this is a grave dereliction of duty.
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: You are not paid to protest on Parliament's time. You're
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: paid to be in there representing the people who elected
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: you to that halloed authoritative.
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: Place in our nation.
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: And here she is.
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: I mean, nobody's.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: Surprised, right because it's a Greens MP and they seem
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: to be able to do whatever radical thing they want
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: to do, and everyone goes, oh well, it's just the Greens,
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: but different rules seem to apply to them.
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: It's expected from these guys.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: But it shouldn't be.
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: And she can make a much more.
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: She could make headlines if she just made the stand
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: in Parliament on the floor of the chamber as opposed
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: to rocking up.
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: But this is why she did it right. She got
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: the headline and.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: She also mind a protest.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: She was suspended from Parliament for two days when Parliament
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: was interrupted by climate activists and she took a selfie
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: in parliament with the activists. Refused to apologize in that
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: two days. Quickly, while we're on the Herald's son, there's
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: another good story on the front page. Rise of teen crims.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Teen crooks are breaking into teen cooks are breaking into
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: ten times the number of homes than when Labour came
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: to power, amid an explosion in youth crime. Ten to
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: seventeen year old burglars have surged from one hundred and
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: nineteen cases in twenty fifteen to one thy two hundred
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: and thirty in the latest financial year, and then offenses
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: by children aged twelve to fourteen through the roof as well.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Just another day in Melbourne, really.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Indeed up on a thousand percent would you believe it?
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: Sorry?
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: On the front of the Daily Telegraph tomorrow shoots a
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: hole right through this plan to build so many houses.
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: Massive public infrastructure projects like the Metro, schools and hospitals
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: will need to go on the back burner if the
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: government is to meet its ambitious five year housing target.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: A Landmark report has found, what a surprise. On current forecasts,
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: they need to build three hundred and thirtieth three hundred
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: and seventy seven thousand. Current forecasts are that they'll only
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: hit one hundred and seventy two thousand.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: But isn't this great.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: We've got to stop the major infrastructure projects that will
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: service the people in all of these new.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Houses that we are going to build, so we can
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: build all of the new houses.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: Maybe it proves, after all that we have too many
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: people in this country at the moment and we can't
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: keep up with the infrastructure. If only there was a way.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: To do something about that. What is it, Oh, you
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: could turn the migration tap on. What a novel idea? Hey,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: so novel?
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Well, quickly we'll do the courier mail. Health gains up
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: in smoke. Decades of work to drive down tobacco. You
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: some Australia is at risk of going up in smoke
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: with shocking new research revealing today's generation of child vapors
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: we're up to twenty nine times more likely to become smokers.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Kayleb, you've got strong opinions on this, giving me.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: If they didn't jack the tobacco excise up so much,
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: there wouldn't be a black market that allows kids to
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: walk into any shop by a vape.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Government, you've done it yourselves, your dopes.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break, but stick around
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: when we come back. The new Queensland government health campaign
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: encouraging workers to.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Do a poo at the office. Seriously, that's coming up
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: in a moment.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: We all understand that governments wage campaigns to improve public
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: health than many of you would remember the Life being
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: a campaign which was brilliant. Well, this one is not
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: like that one. The Queensland Government have launched a campaign
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: called and I quote It's okay to pooh at work.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: They say in the campaign lots of people find it
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: difficult to poo in public toilets. We're here to tell
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: you it's okay to go number two at work. Then
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: they number of Health problems that result if you don't
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: exercise your bow regularly. The campaign is said to try
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: to overcome people's and I quote Pooh paranoia. People apparently
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: are afraid to go to the toilet at work because
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: they'll be judged by the sounds and the smells that
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: they make. Here is the campaign, I just want to be.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Can I just say?
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: The lyric is I just want to be part of
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: your symphony? Will you hold on tight and not let
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: you go? I'm just not sure that really works.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I'll just finish with this.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: They actually advertise here's a tip. Remember that everyone poops.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Visualize someone famous on the toilet like Taylor Swift. This
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: is government advice in Queensland.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Is that where she writes her songs or something? I
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: Look, you know they can't get anyone into a hospital,
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: but they can tell you to put work do it
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: on company time. Getting paid to go to the toilet
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: is my advice. But that's not the only thing people
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: are holding in The coppers in the UK Mail coppers specifically.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Are struggling with crushed testicles. Would you believe it?
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: Because they discovered that the uniforms were sexist.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: This is from a recent news report.
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: It says the idea for unisex uniforms follows a study
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: last year at Lancaster University Law School which found that
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: police uniforms were designed by and for men's sexist uniforms, so.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: They had to be unisex.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: But however, speaking about the latest survey, Goodwin told The
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: Sun during a survey gwint mail police officers complained of
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: experiencing crushed testicles because presumably they're wearing women's pants.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: How good is this?
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: So you've got to go to the toilet when you're
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: at work. We haven't worked out that you can do that.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: And if you're a copper your testicles are getting crashed.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: No wonder people aren't signing up with the police force
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: any more.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Good heavens.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I genuinely am afraid to look at the news. To me,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: who knows what it will bring? That's it from us
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: stick around. Coming up is the Reader Penning Show.