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Doug Band And His Epstein Related Congressional Transcript (Part 2) (7/22/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
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  Speaker 1: left off with a Doug Band interview with Congress Mister Emmer.
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  Speaker 1: And you mentioned that Miss Maxwell seemed to surround herself
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  Speaker 1: with important people. Are there certain individuals that you can
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  Speaker 1: think of of? Note? Answer, I don't remember anybody specifically.
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  Speaker 1: That was just my you're asking me to recall. That's
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  Speaker 1: just my general recollection. Question When was the last time
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  Speaker 1: you had any communication whatsoever with Miss Maxwell? Answer? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall specifically. It was certainly over a decade ago,
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  Speaker 1: probably closer to fifteen years ago. Questions, so around the
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  Speaker 1: twenty tens, two thousands, early twenty ten, you would say, Answer, well,
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  Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, I issued that I thought was an
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  Speaker 1: effective order of removing her from all lits. So it
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  Speaker 1: was potentially then or thereafter. I don't recall specifically. Question
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  Speaker 1: And is that when your relationship with Miss Maxwell officially
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  Speaker 1: ended in twenty eleven? Answer again, I don't remember. It's
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  Speaker 1: possible that I stayed in touch. I just don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Question you said you mentioned that you issued an order
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  Speaker 1: to preclude her from events. Is that right. Answer. I
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  Speaker 1: issued a directive to remove her from all contact lists
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  Speaker 1: in President Clinton's world. Yes. Question did you communicate that
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  Speaker 1: directly to her or just individuals in the Clinton Foundation? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I sent an email to the senior staff members in
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  Speaker 1: the Clinton office. I don't recall whether I did or
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  Speaker 1: didn't discuss it with her. Question has miss Maxwell after
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  Speaker 1: that time that you ended your relationship, has she ever
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  Speaker 1: attempted to contact you in any way? Answer? Not that
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  Speaker 1: I know of, No, not that I recall. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Question when did you find out that Miss Maxwell was
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  Speaker 1: an alleged conspirator of mister Epstein. Answer? I don't recall
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  Speaker 1: specifically when I found out. Question, mister band you stated
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  Speaker 1: that you had no romantic relationship, no sexual contact. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm just interested to know just exactly how close a
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  Speaker 1: relationship you did have with Miss Maxwell. I will admit
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  Speaker 1: to you that there are several messages between you and
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  Speaker 1: Miss Maxwell with somewhat odd language, some nicknames, lovey, dovey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, baby cakes. Can you explain your communication back
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  Speaker 1: and forth with Miss Maxwell? How do you respond to that? Answer? Sure,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the question. As I said, we were socially friends.
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  Speaker 1: You know, those emails were silly. They're obviously not something
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  Speaker 1: that I wrote at the time that I expected to
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  Speaker 1: be read publicly, and certainly not in front of Congress
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  Speaker 1: twenty five years later. That's somewhat embarrassing, but they were
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  Speaker 1: just silly, flirtatious banter and my poor attempts at humor.
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  Speaker 1: Question is that how she would communicate to other people
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  Speaker 1: to your knowledge? Answer? I have no idea how she
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  Speaker 1: communicated with other people. Question were you aware of that
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  Speaker 1: mister Epstein regularly entertain young women at his residences and her?
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  Speaker 1: No question. How did mister Epstein act toward the young
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  Speaker 1: women or girls that were around them? Answer? I spent
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  Speaker 1: very little time with mister Epstein, though I have no idea. Question,
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  Speaker 1: so you were never around mister Epstein where there were
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  Speaker 1: any young girls present? Answer I don't recall ever being
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  Speaker 1: around them. When there gets cut off by the person
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  Speaker 1: asking the questions. Did you ever witness mister Epstein engage
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  Speaker 1: in sexual conduct? Answer no question. Did you ever witness
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  Speaker 1: mister Epstein have sexual contact of any kind with young
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  Speaker 1: women or girls? Answer no? Question. Did mister Epstein ever
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  Speaker 1: discuss sexual acts of any kind with you? Answer no? Question,
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  Speaker 1: did mister Epstein ever discuss any kind of sexual acts
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  Speaker 1: with you? Answer no? Did Miss Maxwell ever discuss sexual
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  Speaker 1: acts with you? Answer no, not that I can recall.
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  Speaker 1: Question was it common for mister Epstein or Miss Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: to bring young women or girls a place where the
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  Speaker 1: two of you would meet? Answer? Sorry, who's the two
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  Speaker 1: of us? Question be you or Miss Maxwell or mister Epstein?
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  Speaker 1: So one of those two? Answer not that I recall.
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  Speaker 1: But again, as I said, I have a very limited
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  Speaker 1: interaction with them. Question did mister Abstein or Miss Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: ever ask you if you wanted them to bring women
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  Speaker 1: or girls to you? Answer no, not that I recall.
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  Speaker 1: No question. Did you ever have any sexual contact with
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  Speaker 1: young women or girls in the presence of mister Epstein
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  Speaker 1: or Miss Maxwell? Answer no. Question. Did you ever have
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  Speaker 1: any sexual contact with any young woman or girl introduced
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  Speaker 1: to you by mister Epstein or a Miss Maxwell? Answer no. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever witness mister Abstein receive a massage from
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  Speaker 1: a young woman or a girl? Answer no. Question did
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  Speaker 1: you ever receive a massage from any young women or
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  Speaker 1: girls brought to you by or introduced to you by
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  Speaker 1: mister Ebstein or a Miss Maxwell? Answer no question. Did
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  Speaker 1: you ever hear about mister Epstein receiving massages? Answer not
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  Speaker 1: that I recall question. Did you ever hear about miss
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell receiving massages or giving massages? Answer not that I
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  Speaker 1: recall questions. So you never had a discussion with mister
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  Speaker 1: Epstein or Miss Maxwell about the topic of massages? Answer no,
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  Speaker 1: not that I recall. Mister Emmer, you mentioned in your
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  Speaker 1: opening statement that you started hearing rumors in twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on what those rumors were? Band answers.
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  Speaker 1: You know there was Again, I apologize, I'm doing my
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  Speaker 1: best to remember back then. I don't recall specifically what
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  Speaker 1: they were. There was an article at some point in
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  Speaker 1: twenty eleven that potentially implicated her, and I had heard
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  Speaker 1: some I recall hearing some things. I don't remember what
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  Speaker 1: they specifically were, but just the inkling of her potential
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  Speaker 1: involvement in those activities was enough for me to take
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  Speaker 1: action to remove her from Clinton's world. Do you recall
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  Speaker 1: whether anyone involved in the Clinton Foundation had similar concerns
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  Speaker 1: related to Miss Maxwell or mister Epstein around the time.
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  Speaker 1: Band That's a good question. I don't know. Question. We
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  Speaker 1: have an additional member of Congress join, Can they please
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  Speaker 1: announce themselves for the record. James Walkinshaw, Virginia eleventh District, redacted,
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  Speaker 1: Staff Director, Ranking Member Garcia. Question by mister Harness. Mister Band,
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  Speaker 1: you've been quoted as saying Bill Clinton was in my
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  Speaker 1: life for almost twenty years. Can you just explain what
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  Speaker 1: that means? Answer? Well, I think I said my opening statement,
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  Speaker 1: the entire first half of my life I spent working
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  Speaker 1: for him. Question mister Band, when did President Clinton first
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  Speaker 1: meet Jeffrey Epstein? Answer? I don't know. Questions so, based
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  Speaker 1: on your experiences and observations, how would you describe the
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  Speaker 1: nature of President Clinton's relationship with mister Epstein? Answer to me,
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  Speaker 1: they appeared to be friends. Question and to your knowledge
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  Speaker 1: that two thousand and one that I keep going back to,
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  Speaker 1: was that the first time that President Clinton had met
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell. Answer again, I'm not exactly
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  Speaker 1: sure whether it was two thousand and one or two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and two. I'm not sure of the distinction. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm sorry, could you restate the question? Answer? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I just asked you how you would describe the
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  Speaker 1: nature of President Clinton's relationship with mister Epstein. Going back
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  Speaker 1: to that dinner in two thousand and one, was that
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  Speaker 1: the first time that the president had met Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: or a Glenn Maxwell. I know you were a president there,
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  Speaker 1: but can you just expand on President Clinton's relationship. Answer?
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  Speaker 1: You know, as I said, I don't know whether or
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  Speaker 1: not that was the first time that he met him
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  Speaker 1: or not. And I was a staff member of staffing
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  Speaker 1: him at the dinner, so it was the first time
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  Speaker 1: that I did as I again have a vague recollection
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  Speaker 1: of question, can you explain what you meant by you
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  Speaker 1: thought that President Clinton and mister Epstein were friends? Answer? Well,
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  Speaker 1: you asked me to describe their relationship. They appeared to
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  Speaker 1: be friends to me. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein had an
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  Speaker 1: airplane and things that were important to the president and
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  Speaker 1: the potential of being a supporter of his and friend
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  Speaker 1: of his. So that's what it seemed to be to me. Question,
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  Speaker 1: So they had to your knowledge friendly conversations any time
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  Speaker 1: that you were present around President Clinton and mister Epstein. Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall ever being present for any of their conversations. Again,
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  Speaker 1: as I said, I have a vague recollection of being
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  Speaker 1: at the dinner, but I was staffing the dinner, so
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't incredibly involved in it, and I don't recall
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  Speaker 1: any other conversation that I was part of with the
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  Speaker 1: two of them. Question, well, what about the trips that
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  Speaker 1: with mister Epstein that you took on his private plane?
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  Speaker 1: Were you president on the private plane trips that mister
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  Speaker 1: Clinton would take? Answer? I was, and I don't ever
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  Speaker 1: recall engaging with mister Epstein on those trips. Question, but
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  Speaker 1: you never saw President Clinton speaking with or conversing with
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  Speaker 1: mister Epstein. Answer? Well, the way that again this is
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  Speaker 1: the best of my recollection because it's been some time.
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  Speaker 1: The way that this large airplane was set up is
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  Speaker 1: the guests were heated in the front, the Secret Service
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  Speaker 1: sat in the middle, and then Jeffrey Epstein was in
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  Speaker 1: the back, and he had an office in the back
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  Speaker 1: of the plane. I don't ever recall him coming to
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  Speaker 1: with the front of the plane. The President, when he
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  Speaker 1: would visit with him, would do it privately in the
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  Speaker 1: back of the plane. But during those trips, question, when
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  Speaker 1: you would make stops, you had certain events that you
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  Speaker 1: were attending. Is that correct? Answer? There were certain events
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  Speaker 1: that President Clinton was attending and I was staffing him. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Question and in any of those events, on any of
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  Speaker 1: those trips, you never saw a conversation between President Clinton
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  Speaker 1: or mister Epstein. Answer I don't recall being part of
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  Speaker 1: any conversation. Question. Did the President ever raise concerns to
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  Speaker 1: you about mister Epstein? Answer not that I recall. Did
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  Speaker 1: you ever express concerns about mister Epstein the President Clinton? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really know him, so I didn't spend time
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  Speaker 1: with him and didn't really have a view on expressing
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  Speaker 1: those concerns. Did you ever advise President Clinton to end
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  Speaker 1: his relationship with mister Epstein? Answer? I don't recall whether
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  Speaker 1: I did or didn't advise him on that question. Will
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  Speaker 1: say in the twenty twenty Vanity Fair interview of your
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  Speaker 1: states that you did advise President Clinton and his relationship
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  Speaker 1: with mister Epstein. Is that true, mister Shapiro, Is it
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  Speaker 1: true that it says that or is it true that
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  Speaker 1: he did it? Question? Is it true that you did it? Answer? Sorry?
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  Speaker 1: Could you repeat the question? I'm sorry? Question? Yeah, This
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  Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty Vanity Fair article to which you
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  Speaker 1: were interviewed in There, it states that you had advised
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  Speaker 1: Clinton to end the relationship after the two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: two trip to Africa? Is that true? Answer? You know,
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  Speaker 1: the Vanity Fair article was several years ago. I spent
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  Speaker 1: a long period of time engaging with them, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't recall the specific conversations I had or didn't have
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  Speaker 1: with them. Question. So, when you stated that you were
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  Speaker 1: insulating the president from Glene Maxwell and mister Epstein, it
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  Speaker 1: was not after the two thousand and two Africa trip.
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  Speaker 1: It was not directly after that. Answer, As I said,
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  Speaker 1: the email was sent removing her from instructing staff to
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  Speaker 1: remover from all of this was twenty eleven. I had
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  Speaker 1: very little interaction or anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein. Question.
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  Speaker 1: The article then states that you would call Epstein made
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of ridiculous claims like boasting that he invented
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  Speaker 1: the derivatives market, said that you had bad vibes from
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  Speaker 1: mister Epstein. Can you explain anything about the two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and two Africa trip and why you would have these
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  Speaker 1: bad vibes? Answer, as it relates to the trip. You know,
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  Speaker 1: as I said earlier, he went on an incredible amount
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  Speaker 1: of humanitarian missions. You know after the earthquakes in Gujarat,
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  Speaker 1: after an earthquake in India, after the tsunamis in Southeast Asia.
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  Speaker 1: He went on a few trips with President Bush forty one.
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  Speaker 1: So he went to Africa, to the best of my recollection,
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  Speaker 1: many many times over his post presidential life. And I
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  Speaker 1: staffed him on those trips, traveling two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: to three hundred days a year. I just don't remember
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  Speaker 1: specifically that trip. Sorry. What was the second part of
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  Speaker 1: the question? Question just to explain the bad vibes that
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  Speaker 1: you got from mister Epstein on the tripe? Answer? You know,
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  Speaker 1: as I said earlier, I had a lot of conversations
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  Speaker 1: over a long period of time with Vanity Fair, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember the specifics of those conversations. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember or recall having good or bad vibes or anything.
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  Speaker 1: Question did Vanity Fair reach out to you for the interview? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember the specifics of it. Question Why do
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  Speaker 1: you think they would write that you had bad vibes? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: As I said, I don't know. I don't remember the
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  Speaker 1: specifics of those conversations. It was several years ago, and
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  Speaker 1: it took over a long period of time. Question. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you know that will have other questions related to
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  Speaker 1: the Vanity Fair article, But do you feel that the
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  Speaker 1: Vanity Fair misrepresented your discussions with them in this article? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: You know, as I said, the Vanity Fair piece was
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  Speaker 1: several years ago. Sometimes reporters get things right, sometimes they
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  Speaker 1: get them wrong, as you certainly know, I just don't
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  Speaker 1: recall the specifics of those conversations that I had with
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  Speaker 1: Vanity Fair over a long period of time. Question. You
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  Speaker 1: said your conversations with Vanity Fair were over a long
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  Speaker 1: period of time, three months, six months, a year. Do
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  Speaker 1: you recall how long you were talking to Vanity Fair
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  Speaker 1: leading up to the article? Mister band I'm sorry, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't recall specifically. I just remember it being a
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  Speaker 1: long time. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here,
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  Speaker 1: and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna pick up where we left off. All the information
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  Speaker 1: that goes with this episode can be found in the
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  Speaker 1: description box.