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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 192 | Seeing What Works as Jaguars Offense Evolves · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to jagsam kind. Annie Steven's here with Brian Sexton
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Speaker 1: and John Oser. We're getting prepared for week twelves. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna head out west later this week to
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Speaker 1: take on the Cardinals in Arizona. But let's go over
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Speaker 1: our big things today, brought to you by GEHJA Government
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Speaker 2: Big thing number one is slowly but surely.
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Speaker 1: We thought we were getting some of those injured guys
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Speaker 1: back last week, but it looks like it may be
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Speaker 1: a little slower process than we originally thought. Brent Strange
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Speaker 1: one of those guys working his way back, Brian, and
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Speaker 1: we're kind of waiting and is nice to see a
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Speaker 1: dominant win without some of your star players.
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Speaker 2: They work their way.
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Speaker 3: Back, you guys.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of like when the stock market falls and
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Speaker 4: you start buying at a low rate. Eventually it goes
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Speaker 4: back up and all of a sudden you've got more
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Speaker 4: shares at.
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Speaker 3: A higher rate.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of way because you're gonna get bretton Strange
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Speaker 4: back at some point, hopefully this week. You're gonna get
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Speaker 4: Greg Newsom back. You're gonna get Jordan Lewis back and
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Speaker 4: Anton Harrison back, So you know, grabbing wins when your
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Speaker 4: team is far less than full strength and then becoming
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Speaker 4: full strength. Hopefully there's a correlation there. Hopefully it translates
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Speaker 4: into you being rich.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they've almost accomplished it, you know. And I
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Speaker 5: get that in the ups and downs of the season.
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Speaker 5: There's panic after a loss and you know, oh, they're terrible,
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Speaker 5: but this is what you have to do. You have
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Speaker 5: to get through your injured stretch, maintaining and staying in it.
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Speaker 5: I feel like the biggest injury is still sitting out
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Speaker 5: there is strange. Jordan Lewis and Murray are up there.
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Speaker 5: They get him back this week, get the running game going,
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Speaker 5: grind out another one against Arizona. Then you feel like
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Speaker 5: you've gotten through it and you can start doing what
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Speaker 5: Brian talked about, which is getting rich in the stock market.
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Speaker 1: Like getting rich, that always sounds good. Big numbers two
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Speaker 1: is seeing what work. Obviously, with a bunch of those injuries,
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Speaker 1: the offenses looks both sides of football, but the offense
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Speaker 1: has looked a lot different than we expected it to
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Speaker 1: look beginning at to start the year. So Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: has had kind of had to adapt different weapons of
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Speaker 1: course available for him. John, but seeing just Jacoby Myers
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Speaker 1: has only been here about two weeks. The chemistry that
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Speaker 1: is there, and we saw a great game out of
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Speaker 1: Parker Washington last week. So how have you seen the
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Speaker 1: offensivevolve a little bit and kind of seeing what works
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Speaker 1: for them right now?
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Speaker 5: Well, it's impressive and it's exactly what they've been doing.
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Speaker 5: If you think back even to when they got here,
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Speaker 5: they didn't know Travis etn was gonna be this kind
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Speaker 5: of a back.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 5: Then you draft two and then okay, now we've got this.
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Speaker 5: The injuries happened and uh BTJ and Diami Brown and
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Speaker 5: Travis Hunter who were supposed to be your guys, uh
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Speaker 5: aren't really factors in the offense right now.
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Speaker 6: But I in the last three weeks.
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Speaker 5: Twenty nine points, thirty five points the other day, uh
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Speaker 5: twenty nine or thirty against the the Raiders.
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Speaker 6: Raiders, all of.
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Speaker 5: A sudden, this offense is doing what you thought it
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Speaker 5: was gonna do, and it's been there's the best three
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Speaker 5: weeks of offense this season.
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Speaker 6: So when you put together a new regime.
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Speaker 5: You have to figure it out as you go and
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Speaker 5: you can tell they're finding the pieces, Brian that are
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Speaker 5: starting to work, and you're starting to wonder, in the
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Speaker 5: last five weeks, can they have some jet fuel in
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Speaker 5: this and really get go.
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Speaker 4: Listen at some point in the season and John, we've
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Speaker 4: done this long enough, You've seen it many many times.
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Speaker 4: You do what you can do, not necessarily what you'd
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Speaker 4: like to do, what the big plan was to do.
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Speaker 4: You do what you can do. Last week they had
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Speaker 4: Quinton Morris on the field, a guy who was called
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Speaker 4: up from the practice squad, who got here during training camp.
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Speaker 3: And if you go and.
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Speaker 4: Watch this view, this end zone view here of Travis
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Speaker 4: Etn's first touchdown. Watch the crushing block he puts on
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Speaker 4: Bud Dupree, who knew he could do that, and he
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Speaker 4: did it several times. In fact, I think in four
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Speaker 4: instances he had blocks that read up ten yard runs
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Speaker 4: or more.
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Speaker 3: He was tremendous.
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Speaker 4: Listen, you do what you can do, Jacoby Myers. They
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Speaker 4: found out what routes he likes. Eventually they will be
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Speaker 4: able to do what they want to do. But until
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Speaker 4: you get your guys back, do what you can do,
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Speaker 4: and ki guys like Quinton Morris and Jacoby Myers, how
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Speaker 4: about Austin Trammell would.
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Speaker 3: A big catch the other day?
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Speaker 4: Do what you can do, and this coaching staff deserves
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Speaker 4: real credit for figuring out out a way to do
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Speaker 4: what they could do against a very good Chargers team.
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Speaker 5: And to that point, I think about this, in the
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Speaker 5: last three games, they'd had stretches where they scored on
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Speaker 5: six straight drives and four out of five drives the
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Speaker 5: other day.
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Speaker 6: It's starting to look like they wanted to.
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Speaker 1: Look no punting, so that's always a good sign as well.
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Speaker 1: So our final big thing today is going to be
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Speaker 1: leading the way. We've talked a lot about leadership. The
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Speaker 1: defense did not play well against the Texans, but they
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Speaker 1: came back with an outstanding performance against the Chargers. And
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Speaker 1: credit to Josh heinz Allen, who you know, the past,
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Speaker 1: Verus has taken a lot of slack and right so
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Speaker 1: because they haven't been living up to Sanderds.
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Speaker 2: They got after Justin Herbert this.
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Speaker 1: Week, and of course Josh Heinzellen now has that sack
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Speaker 1: record for the franchise. What's most important about this, I
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Speaker 1: think Brian you would agree, is this leadership factor and
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Speaker 1: kind of using this moving forward Yeah.
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Speaker 4: You know, leadership can be something that people put too
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Speaker 4: much weight on. Eventually, you have to be a great player,
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Speaker 4: right If you're a great player, you are by default
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Speaker 4: a leader in the locker room. Josh happens to have
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Speaker 4: qualities of both the great player and a guy who's
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Speaker 4: got the natural inclination to lead. Here's what I like
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Speaker 4: the effort he put in last week, the will not
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Speaker 4: quit falling to the ground, gonna get the sack that
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Speaker 4: is contagious. And he talks all the time John about
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Speaker 4: the guys who are on the field with him right now,
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Speaker 4: the guys that Christian Braswell will go back and look
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Speaker 4: at the Iron Jaguar series that they did with the
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Speaker 4: coaching staff and the personal or the performance staff back
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Speaker 4: in the spring.
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Speaker 3: Josh will point out that a lot of the guys
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Speaker 3: who are contributing right now were.
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Speaker 4: Guys that exceled back then, and Josh believes in them.
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Speaker 4: This team believes in him, He believes in those guys.
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Speaker 4: I just think that there's a fuel on that defensive
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Speaker 4: side to go out and do it again this week
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Speaker 4: because of Josh heinz Allen.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes in a long season need to reset. It
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Speaker 5: felt like the defensive front, especially after the Houston Texans game,
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Speaker 5: really said you know what, whatever was going on before,
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Speaker 5: let's get started now. And it was an impressive effort
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Speaker 5: against the Chargers. They need that sort maybe not to
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Speaker 5: that level, but they need disruption from that group going forward.
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Speaker 5: This is a big week because the whole theme to
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Speaker 5: me this week is, look, it was great to do
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Speaker 5: it once, you gotta do it again, and especially the
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Speaker 5: defensive front has to do it again.
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Speaker 6: You gotta build on what happened on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Stay with's here on jag Zam.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little this or that as we
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Speaker 1: look ahead to this week's patch up against the Cardinals.
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Speaker 3: This O.
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Speaker 2: This welcome back to jagsza I. We're gonna play a
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Speaker 2: little this or that.
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Speaker 1: We're looking ahead but kind of also just assessing where
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Speaker 1: the team is at right now.
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Speaker 2: It's week twelve. They're very much in the playoff picture
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Speaker 2: at this point.
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Speaker 1: Got a big AFC win over the Chargers that could
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Speaker 1: kind of be used maybe potentially with tigh breakers.
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Speaker 2: They have one over the Chiefs as well.
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Speaker 1: So when we kind of look ahead, let's Brian, we
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Speaker 1: were talking about this this morning.
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Speaker 2: This game against the Chargers.
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Speaker 1: Maybe is a game that they don't win in the
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Speaker 1: previous years, right, especially like the importance that we're playing.
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Speaker 3: Dragon Wars never won those games?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: So are we officially the new Jags at this point?
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Speaker 1: Are we still saying old Jags?
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Speaker 3: You know what I say?
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Speaker 1: And will this Cardinals game proved one or both one
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Speaker 1: or either of the other?
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Speaker 2: Correct?
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Speaker 4: And I'm sure you both have had this conversation, But
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Speaker 4: it's those Jags and these Jags, right, have it in
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Speaker 4: the aisle at Public's, you know, walking on the beach,
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Speaker 4: wherever you're at.
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Speaker 3: People want to know if this team is these.
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Speaker 4: Jags, the team that played on Sunday or those Jags
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Speaker 4: previous Jaguars teams that A wouldn't show up for a
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Speaker 4: game like this and then B wouldn't follow up John
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Speaker 4: with a game like this. And the best example I
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Speaker 4: can give you is the end of twenty twenty three, right,
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Speaker 4: I mean, you have a game you should win, you
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Speaker 4: have the playoffs on the line, and you go to Tennessee.
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Speaker 4: They are a one trick pony. It was Mike Grabel's
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Speaker 4: final game and all they do was run the ball.
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Speaker 4: And all you knew you had to stop was Derrick
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Speaker 4: Henry and those Jags didn't do it.
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Speaker 3: They didn't do it. So is it these Jags? Do?
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Speaker 4: We believe that this team is Liam Cohen's team and
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Speaker 4: they play his way and they're going to avoid the
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Speaker 4: mistakes of those Jags, these versus those john What do
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Speaker 4: you see?
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Speaker 5: I don't think there's any questions these Jags. I thought
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Speaker 5: that all year, and I would have thought that even
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Speaker 5: for the San Diego I mean the Yes Sargers.
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Speaker 6: Can still say San Diego too, just because of this.
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Speaker 5: They're still beat up right now and it's still the NFL,
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Speaker 5: so you don't know what's gonna happen on Sunday. But
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Speaker 5: their response, this team has fought and punched all year.
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Speaker 5: They're six and four. It's an up and down week
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Speaker 5: and week league. But you're six and four and you've
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Speaker 5: beaten the Chiefs, You've beaten the forty nine ers, you
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Speaker 5: beat the Panthers, you've beaten the Texans, and you've eat
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Speaker 5: in the charters.
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Speaker 6: All of those teams are.
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Speaker 3: About five hundred.
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Speaker 5: They have a strong strength of whatever. All those things,
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Speaker 5: they're good. I think they'll play well on Sunday. If
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Speaker 5: they don't get it, I think it's because they're still
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Speaker 5: coming back.
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Speaker 6: There's still some flaws.
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Speaker 5: The secondary is still hurt, there's still some things that
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Speaker 5: they have not been able to get right since they.
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Speaker 3: Started all this.
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Speaker 6: But to me, they're a new franchise.
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Speaker 3: They're good.
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Speaker 5: No matter what happens Sunday, I think they'll win. I
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Speaker 5: think they're gonna go on a little run. I think
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Speaker 5: they're gonna get in and they're gonna start proving it.
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Speaker 5: But no matter what happens, this is a different feeling
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Speaker 5: than last year.
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Speaker 3: I agree. I believe in these Jaguars. I still need
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Speaker 3: to see them put.
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Speaker 4: The ghost of those Jaguars to the past and go
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Speaker 4: beat Chacob right. I know he set an NFL record
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Speaker 4: with forty seven completions. The Jaguars have seen him four times,
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Speaker 4: they're one in three against him. He has two touchdowns
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Speaker 4: and three interception.
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Speaker 3: Is a career.
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Speaker 4: Go beat Jacoby Brissett and the Cardinals, and then I
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Speaker 4: think we can officially put those Jaguars too bad.
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Speaker 5: I think the good news on this front is we
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Speaker 5: talked about during big things. They're finding what they are.
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Speaker 5: They knew what they were after Carolina in the first week,
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Speaker 5: and then you get beat up and Travis Hunter's out
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Speaker 5: and BTJ as his issues and you're still trying to
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Speaker 5: figure it out. Last week, I think sort of reset
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Speaker 5: on both sides. We've got to be a defensive line
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Speaker 5: and offensive line oriented team, and it feels like they
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Speaker 5: refound themselves and maybe it's a refresh if you will.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't know what the outcome will
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Speaker 1: be this week, and I know the energy and I
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Speaker 1: know what we're going to see put out onto the field.
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Speaker 1: After what we saw against the Chargers, I feel like
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Speaker 1: that was kind of a canon moment for me to
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Speaker 1: see what the response was going to be. I have
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Speaker 1: no doubt they'll be prepared, but as mentioned, they do
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Speaker 1: have a lot of injuries, so I'm not entirely sure
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Speaker 1: what it looked like, but I think they'll be ready.
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Speaker 4: Just one quick follow up on that is last week
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Speaker 4: I said it was it was on Liam Cohen. This
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Speaker 4: was his week to make this his team. This week,
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Speaker 4: I think it's on the players, right. I think the
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Speaker 4: energy that you speak of is on them and they've
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Speaker 4: got to bring it to push through and there's enough
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Speaker 4: guys who've been here for those Jags to understand how
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Speaker 4: to make the transition.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: One other thing that we saw, we saw a great
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Speaker 1: ground game from them. Both Facial Tutent and Travis Etn
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Speaker 1: had great days on the ground. And what was cool
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Speaker 1: about it was the offensive line was banged up, but
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Speaker 1: they didn't get Brent's strange back like they thought, you're
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Speaker 1: starting right tackle. Anton Harrison wasn't able to play. It
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Speaker 1: was Cole Van Lannon and he's been playing very well,
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Speaker 1: kind of plug and play a couple different spots in
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Speaker 1: the line when asked to be out there, John, when
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Speaker 1: you look at the offensive line and what we've seen
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Speaker 1: from Cole Van land and do you think when everyone's
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Speaker 1: back that will see it completely back to the starting
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Speaker 1: fire or do you think they're going to have to
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Speaker 1: try to work him in somewhere.
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Speaker 5: It's it's it's a legitimate question. Do you move somebody
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Speaker 5: over to left tackle Walker Little has struggled? Do you say, Okay,
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Speaker 5: we're gonna go back to our starting five because that's
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Speaker 5: what we have the most chemistry with. I think the
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Speaker 5: good news is Van Lannon's ready. If you see weakness anywhere, he's.
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Speaker 6: Clearly ready to go in quickly.
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Speaker 5: I think on the offensive line, this offensive line, even
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Speaker 5: in the weeks where people thought they played bad, did
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Speaker 5: not really play horribly. There's been situations against the Rams,
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Speaker 5: they struggle the couple, but it's a good offensive line
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Speaker 5: that you feel like in these last seven games unless
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Speaker 5: they're playing one of the dominant defensive lines. I'm talking Seattle,
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Speaker 5: Houston's domin They're gonna see Denver, They're gonna see Denver.
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Speaker 5: But for the most part, this group has been able
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Speaker 5: to play winning offensive line, which I think bodes well
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Speaker 5: over the last seven games. If they stay out of
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Speaker 5: bad down in distance, this team can score points and
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Speaker 5: be in their last seven games.
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Speaker 4: If the identity is the running game, and I think
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Speaker 4: we believe that it is well that I think you
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Speaker 4: stay put Walker Little this week played really well. He
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Speaker 4: is a very good run blocking tackle. If they find
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Speaker 4: themselves in a position where they're having to throw a
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Speaker 4: whole lot and we see struggles like we saw from
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Speaker 4: Walker in Houston. He didn't play very well against Seattle
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Speaker 4: or the Rams, colvi ain Land and showed you he
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Speaker 4: can do it. I think he's a better pass protecting
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Speaker 4: tackle than Walker Little is. But if the identity is
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Speaker 4: run the ball, Walker Little is pretty darn good at that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely a group where I've got my eye out.
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Speaker 1: Just been very impressed with cold a Land and so
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised either way that they go with
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Speaker 1: that when they are back to full strength.
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Speaker 2: So stay with us here on Jagszam.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit about the division to
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Speaker 1: keep chabs on everybody. The Titans and Texans faced off
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Speaker 1: last week. Texans able to get a last second win
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Speaker 1: over the Titans, and they did it with quarterback Davis Mills,
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Speaker 1: and it looks like we might see him again this week, Brian,
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Speaker 1: because it's a short week and they're facing off on Thursday.
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Speaker 3: Night against the Bills. Right, and the word is CJ.
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Speaker 4: Stroud is practicing in Houston as much as they practice
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Speaker 4: during the week that you play on Thursday.
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Speaker 3: Night, but he's not expected to play.
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Speaker 4: So that means that the Jaguars fans out there who
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Speaker 4: are watching feel pretty good about the Bills and what
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Speaker 4: they did last week and the way their quarterback's playing
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Speaker 4: against Davis Mills.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're at the point of the season where I
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Speaker 5: get it's fun to talk about all this Bills Texans. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: you'd like the Bills to win it to knock the
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Speaker 5: Texans back, But the Bills are also looking like a
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Speaker 5: wildcard team. Yes, so I don't know that either of
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Speaker 5: those teams losing is bad for the Jags. So I
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Speaker 5: think the Bills win that because I think on Thursday
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Speaker 5: night a lot of times, game planning gets out of
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Speaker 5: the window, and the best player in the league is Josh.
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Speaker 5: Heines is Josh Allen, so usually when it's a schoolyard fight,
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Speaker 5: he wins the schoolyard fight.
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Speaker 3: Here's the story.
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Speaker 4: Though we have been talking about meaningful games around Thanksgiving
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Speaker 4: to the end of the year around here for a
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Speaker 4: long time, we haven't been able to talk about him this.
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Speaker 3: If they win, if they lose kind of thing.
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Speaker 4: Is exactly what you want in your fan base as
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Speaker 4: you get towards Christmas. It creates interest in every game
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Speaker 4: every week.
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Speaker 1: You always like to have a stake in each of
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Speaker 1: the games, so that's always exciting. And now the Colts
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Speaker 1: had a bye week last week. Obviously they're off to
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Speaker 1: an amazing start, but they're going to face off against
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs this week and their remaining strength of schedule
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Speaker 1: is the most difficult Number one in the NFL. So
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Speaker 1: they're getting into a tough stretch at a time when
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are hopefully getting into a little bit easier stretch.
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Speaker 1: So what are we going to see from the Colts
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Speaker 1: now they've got some tougher opponents.
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Speaker 3: The Kansas City's my hometown.
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Speaker 4: I talk to a lot of people out there, and
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Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs fans have become accustomed to playing
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Speaker 4: in the AFC Championship Game.
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Speaker 3: The thought that.
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Speaker 4: They wouldn't be Division champs, as they have been nine
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Speaker 4: consecutive years in a row is absolutely unacceptable to them.
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Speaker 4: Funny because when I grew up there, the Chiefs were terrible.
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Speaker 4: The reality of it is is that you have a
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Speaker 4: very desperate team that if they lose another AFC game,
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Speaker 4: fall further behind, their chances of just making the playoffs become.
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Speaker 3: So much smaller.
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Speaker 4: I expect a desperate, dangerous Kansas City team that John
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Speaker 4: hasn't been desperate or dangerous in Patrick Mahomes' time. With
16:38
Speaker 4: Andy Reid pulling the trigger, I expect this to be
16:40
Speaker 4: heack of the ball game.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it can sort of go like both ways
16:45
Speaker 5: in the Chiefs right now. Sometimes these teams that have
16:48
Speaker 5: been great for a long time have these seasons where
16:50
Speaker 5: you keep expecting the old team to show up and
16:54
Speaker 5: then you get to the end of the season.
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Speaker 6: Realize that the old team wasn't there.
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Speaker 5: So I don't necessarily think as long as you have
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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes at quarterback that's the case. I think they
17:04
Speaker 5: will win this game.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 5: This week, it's harder to beat the Chiefs. This team
17:10
Speaker 5: did it, So this is that theory doesn't hold that
17:12
Speaker 5: much water. But a division team like the Broncos knows
17:15
Speaker 5: how to play the Chiefs.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
17:17
Speaker 5: If you don't know how to play them, you know
17:19
Speaker 5: how to uh how to play Mahomes.
17:21
Speaker 6: It can be different.
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Speaker 5: So I think the Chiefs have some more punches left
17:24
Speaker 5: in them. Do they have enough punches to get to
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Speaker 5: the end of the season. Uh, their record makes t
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Speaker 5: could make that tough.
17:30
Speaker 4: You know, you covered the Patriots and you grew up
17:32
Speaker 4: in New England, so you can appreciate this. I can
17:34
Speaker 4: remember we went up there in twenty seventeen to practice
17:37
Speaker 4: before preseason game and to see all these kids who
17:39
Speaker 4: were you know, between what eight and twenty that never
17:42
Speaker 4: knew anything but winning, And I can remember thinking, boy,
17:46
Speaker 4: are these kids in for a shock when when twelve
17:49
Speaker 4: decides to hang it up and it's the exact same
17:51
Speaker 4: thing in Kansas City, where they've won three of the last.
17:53
Speaker 3: Six Super Bowls. It it's difficult for you to accept reality.
17:56
Speaker 2: It's expectations for sure.
17:58
Speaker 1: And we will see what that actually looks like, whether
18:01
Speaker 1: the Chiefs can pull another rabbit out of the hat
18:02
Speaker 1: and kind of turned clock back a little bit.
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Speaker 4: By the way, because of your history with the Patriots,
18:06
Speaker 4: what did you think of those uniforms they wore last week?
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Speaker 2: I didn't hate them.
18:09
Speaker 1: They weren't my favorite, but I don't like them in general,
18:11
Speaker 1: because I think every division is going to get some
18:14
Speaker 1: muted version of that. Because what the Bills had the
18:17
Speaker 1: ice breaker ones.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I forget what they call it.
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Speaker 2: It's it just looked a little, I don't know, it's
18:23
Speaker 2: a little.
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Speaker 1: The State Trooper blue is very similar, So it was
18:26
Speaker 1: it was just an interesting color combination. But I'm sure
18:29
Speaker 1: we'll have our version next year and then I'll have
18:31
Speaker 1: to vote in on that. But I'm all about the throwbacks,
18:34
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm gonna say as many as as
18:36
Speaker 1: many Jaguars throwbacks, I'm very, very strong. The bright red
18:41
Speaker 1: pat the Patriots are my other favorite.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, those are the ones that they already used. But
18:45
Speaker 5: I'm an old man.
18:47
Speaker 3: Get off my lawn, stay.
18:49
Speaker 2: With us here.
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Speaker 1: a couple more home games when we start thinking about it,
19:25
Speaker 1: because we've been away.
19:26
Speaker 2: We'll be away again.
19:27
Speaker 1: For two weeks and then back to face off against
19:30
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Jets, and then.
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Speaker 3: Tightens at the end of the year.
19:34
Speaker 1: Tightens at the end of the year. So it's getting
19:36
Speaker 1: down to that time, which is crazy to think about.
19:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's schedule shapes up to where you can start
19:43
Speaker 5: having some exciting stuff at home if you take care
19:44
Speaker 5: of business.
19:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, who are you talking to this week or what are.
19:48
Speaker 2: You looking forward to?
19:49
Speaker 3: Talking offensive line? Sean Sareht, the offensive line coach. We'll
19:52
Speaker 3: ask him about about how.
19:54
Speaker 4: Walker's playing and how Cole Van Landon factors into that,
19:57
Speaker 4: and whyatt Mylem got some time on the field against
20:00
Speaker 4: the Chargers. And you know, I've been told that once
20:03
Speaker 4: he gets into the lineup, it's gonna be tough to
20:04
Speaker 4: take him out because they think so highly of him
20:06
Speaker 4: and he's proven to them that he has got the
20:08
Speaker 4: skills to be a long term starter in Jacksonville. So
20:12
Speaker 4: there's some reason for optimism. And as Sean mentioned, they
20:14
Speaker 4: haven't played that bad. I mean, they gave him some
20:16
Speaker 4: sacks and some of those were on the quarterback.
20:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get the idea with Mylon that if you're
20:21
Speaker 5: playing guard, don't get hurt because he's probably not going
20:26
Speaker 5: to give up his spot once he's in there, maybe
20:28
Speaker 5: not in the short term, in long and he's gonna
20:30
Speaker 5: be the guy. I'm talking to Antonio Johnson for the
20:32
Speaker 5: Ozone podcast and I'm not sure I ever talked to
20:35
Speaker 5: him in that capacity.
20:36
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to.
20:37
Speaker 4: A great story and it was well, no, no, I
20:39
Speaker 4: was just gonna tell you I talked to him last
20:41
Speaker 4: year and he grew up.
20:43
Speaker 3: A part of his childhood was living in a car,
20:45
Speaker 3: and he's St. Louis, Illinois, which if you.
20:46
Speaker 4: Don't realize, he's one of the toughest cities, one of
20:49
Speaker 4: the toughest places to live and grow up. I think
20:52
Speaker 4: he's a tremendous story and he's a pretty well spoken kid, very.
20:54
Speaker 2: Well talent, and a great one with Jacobe Myers last week.
20:57
Speaker 2: If you had the Ozone pod, I'm.
20:59
Speaker 1: Checking in with the franchise leader in sacks, Josh Hanzellen
21:02
Speaker 1: for Off the Field, So anyone with questions send him
21:04
Speaker 1: my way.
21:04
Speaker 2: If not, we'll be back here for Diazam tomorrow.
21:06
Speaker 1: We'll do a deep dive as we get ready for
21:08
Speaker 1: the Cardinals game on Sunday,