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9-18-26 Hour 1 - The Broncos conversation has shifted/Offense NEEDS to pull their weight/"Tepid Optimism" · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: It's a Bud Light Football Friday. Bud Light, the official
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  Speaker 2: beer sponsor of the Denver Broncos. Remember to enjoy responsibly. Gosh,
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  Speaker 2: is this a big weekend. Obviously, the Broncos need to
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  Speaker 2: bounce back. Home opener against the Jags. You have a
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  Speaker 2: huge game in Fort Collins where they're welcoming in the
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  Speaker 2: number 11 team in the country.
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  Speaker 3: A chance to get off.
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  Speaker 2: A 24-game losing streak to top 25 opponents. And you
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  Speaker 2: have a game for the Buffs where they could go
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  Speaker 2: to 3-0 as an underdog by traveling to Northwestern and beating.
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  Speaker 4: The Wildcats in Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: It's a huge weekend.
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  Speaker 4: But, Mose, you said you know what the deal is.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's up. I got the deal. Vic, I
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  Speaker 5: got the deal. Well, let's hear it now.
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  Speaker 6: This weekend for the Denver Broncos, just been stewing about this.
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  Speaker 5: Stewing.
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  Speaker 6: Big old kettle, right? Just full of stew and meat
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  Speaker 6: and potatoes and crap.
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  Speaker 5: Like a witch. You know what I saw last night?
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  Speaker 6: You saw two teams that could run the ball. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: but I also saw a team that.
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  Speaker 4: There was a game last night?
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Vic, I've got to get you on the text thread
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  Speaker 5: with the Kane family.
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  Speaker 6: I have to. It is spectacular. It's one of the
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  Speaker 6: favorite things of the week for me, to be honest
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  Speaker 6: with you.
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  Speaker 5: Do you just sit there and, like, poke at them
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  Speaker 5: or what?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he doesn't poke.
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  Speaker 5: I don't poke. No, I'm with them. I'm a friend.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let me preface my.
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  Speaker 4: I sent one text.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I said, diarrhea poops don't move faster than that first
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  Speaker 2: touchdown drive for the Bills.
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  Speaker 5: That's true. So your defense is awful. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 5: secondary sucks.
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  Speaker 4: What is this game that you guys are speaking of?
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  Speaker 2: I do not know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, did you have a bottle of whiskey last night?
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  Speaker 5: What was it? A bottle.
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  Speaker 3: Your quarterback had 327 yards passing four TDs.
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  Speaker 5: Your top receiver had nine grabs, two TDs. I remember
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  Speaker 5: that part yards. And you gave up 41 points.
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  Speaker 6: That was the good, the Dalton Kincaid touchdown, Vic. Nobody
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  Speaker 6: knows what they're doing in the secondary. Nobody has any
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  Speaker 6: clue where they're supposed to be or who they're supposed
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  Speaker 6: to cover.
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  Speaker 3: This is actually perfect.
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  Speaker 2: I had someone in the appetizer saying the Broncos defense
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  Speaker 2: is so far from.
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  Speaker 3: Elite, it's mediocre.
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  Speaker 2: And I go, no, that's what a bad defense looks like.
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  Speaker 3: At least a bad secondary. Who's your defensive coordinator?
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  Speaker 5: Who's your coordinator?
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  Speaker 4: Kelvin Shepard is his name.
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  Speaker 5: He'll do something. Oh, Kelly.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, so Vic, so here's what I was thinking. The
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  Speaker 6: Lions are a good team outside their secondary. Their secondary stinks.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what the.
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  Speaker 6: Buffalo Bills are? The Buffalo Bills are a big boy team. Now,
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  Speaker 6: the Broncos beat them after all the Allen miscues in
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  Speaker 6: the divisional playoff game.
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  Speaker 5: I was fretting. Look at me.
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  Speaker 6: I was fretting about the Jaguars coming in. I'm like, oh, God,
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  Speaker 6: they're good on both sides of the ball. And, man,
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  Speaker 6: Lawrence threw four touches in the first game. Yeah. But
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  Speaker 6: what are the Denver Broncos supposed to be? And so
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  Speaker 6: today we're going to play a little game of is
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  Speaker 6: you or is you ain't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: What is that? Be afraid of this.
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  Speaker 6: If the Denver Broncos are a big boy football team,
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  Speaker 6: and if you go to the AFC championship game, you're
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  Speaker 6: supposed to be a big boy football team, then you
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  Speaker 6: know what you do on the home field this weekend?
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  Speaker 6: You win the frigging game. You beat this Jaguars team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I know they're good.
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  Speaker 5: Well, what are you?
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  Speaker 6: So is you or is you ain't? An AFC big boy.
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  Speaker 6: That's the game we're playing today. Is you or is
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  Speaker 6: you ain't. An AFC big boy.
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  Speaker 5: I like that. That grammar's perfect. You're damn right.
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  Speaker 6: I watched a big boy team last night. Listen, the
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  Speaker 6: Lions offense is good. Goff threw four touches last night.
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  Speaker 5: No picks. Had a rating of 130. They can move
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  Speaker 5: the ball.
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  Speaker 4: That's not a problem.
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  Speaker 6: They don't need Ben Johnson back. It's their defense that stinks.
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  Speaker 6: But the fact of the matter is, Buffalo is good.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that up. The big boy offense, right?
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  Speaker 5: Moving the ball.
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  Speaker 3: What was it like sitting there watching two teams, like,
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  Speaker 3: move the ball at will, and there were times where
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  Speaker 3: they couldn't, but big chunk yards, explosive plays, and no
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  Speaker 3: one's surprised. That's the thing about the Broncos' offense sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, wow, big chunk play.
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  Speaker 5: That's different. The consistency of those plays is what's necessary.
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  Speaker 5: Consistency of chunk plays.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's, I think, two-fronted.
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  Speaker 5: Number one.
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  Speaker 4: Those are two really good quarterbacks. I mean, one of
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  Speaker 4: them is obviously an MVP.
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  Speaker 3: The other one has.
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  Speaker 2: Been statistically in the top five of every category the
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  Speaker 2: last three years. But that's all set up because both
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  Speaker 2: of them commit to running the football before letting their
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks go crazy. Because if you can do that, how
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  Speaker 2: many times did the Bills have third and one?
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  Speaker 3: In that game.
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  Speaker 2: And they were just like, they have Josh Allen, who's
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  Speaker 2: a monster. And they're like, well, we'll just sneak it.
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  Speaker 5: Run them up the middle.
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  Speaker 2: But when you're at third and one, it's pretty hard
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  Speaker 2: to go three and out.
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  Speaker 4: Because you're probably getting a yard.
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  Speaker 5: You're so right. Third and one. They had third and
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  Speaker 5: one on a couple occasions. And all they did is they.
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  Speaker 3: They flexed everybody inside and said, we're just going to
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  Speaker 3: run it up the middle, and you're not going to
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  Speaker 3: stop us.
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  Speaker 5: They just blew it. They just blew the D-line off
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  Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. And decided to send every receiver
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  Speaker 5: 15 yards down the field. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Which is fine on second down, but on third and one,
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  Speaker 2: just pick up the yardage and move the chains. And
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  Speaker 2: what's funny, can I say this real quick about Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen and his sneaks? That's an ethical sneak. He doesn't
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  Speaker 2: need somebody pushing his butt. He just does it himself.
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  Speaker 3: That's ethical.
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  Speaker 5: I like that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, honestly, he's so big, if he tried to push
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  Speaker 6: his butt, It might be like you yourself running into
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  Speaker 6: the back of an elephant.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: That's kind of– Yeah. Hey, this elephant don't need me
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  Speaker 6: to push him ahead. No, but, Vic, I'm just– I'm
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  Speaker 6: not– I'm tired of fretting. I'm tired of going, oh, God,
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  Speaker 6: if they go 0-2, they got an 11% chance of
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  Speaker 6: making the– prove that you're a big boy team. Moj,
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  Speaker 6: is that too much to ask to prove that you're
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  Speaker 6: a big boy team in the AFC?
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  Speaker 3: Moj, I agree, and that's why Sunday's game for me,
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  Speaker 3: it's not a question– the results matter, clearly.
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  Speaker 5: Winning matters.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see how it's done. I want to
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  Speaker 3: see an offense that is a legit offense. No more
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  Speaker 3: baby steps. It's year three of Bo. Baby steps are,
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  Speaker 3: that's not, it's gone. You know, little three and outs,
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  Speaker 3: three times in a row. No, can't do that. How
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  Speaker 3: many three and outs did Buffalo have last night?
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  Speaker 5: I'm curious.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, none.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they had any.
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  Speaker 5: Did they have a three-and-out? I don't know if they
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  Speaker 5: had a drive. They didn't destroy it. I don't recall it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't recall.
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  Speaker 6: Here's my prediction this weekend. The Rams got embarrassed down under.
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  Speaker 5: Down under. Vic, get your best Australian accent going. I
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  Speaker 5: can't do it. He did mean his meaning.
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  Speaker 4: Teddy KGB was an Aussie.
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  Speaker 6: The Rams are back in L.A., and they're going to
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  Speaker 6: be welcoming in the New York football Giants.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think the Rams are going to do
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  Speaker 5: to the Giants?
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  Speaker 4: What the Rams are going to do to the Giants?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know because I don't know what the Giants are.
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  Speaker 3: My assumption would be win.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the Rams are going to respond in
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  Speaker 6: a big way.
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  Speaker 5: But you know what? Let me explain.
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  Speaker 6: The Buffalo Bills are a big boy football team. I
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  Speaker 6: believe the Ravens are a big boy football team. I
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  Speaker 6: think Cincinnati, if they can still improve on defense a
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  Speaker 6: little bit more, can be a big boy football team.
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  Speaker 6: The Jags have proven they're a big boy football team.
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  Speaker 5: They're not a fluke.
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  Speaker 6: Houston has proven, and they had a great game against
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  Speaker 6: Buffalo to start out the year, but they're going to
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  Speaker 6: be a good team and probably content for that division.
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  Speaker 6: They're a big boy football team, and you're supposed to be,
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  Speaker 6: as the Denver Broncos, a big boy football team.
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  Speaker 5: So go do it. Go get it done.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's what I tell you. This is what I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking at for this weekend. I don't have a fear
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  Speaker 2: about the Broncos' defense.
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  Speaker 5: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: They'll tackle better. They'll be fine. This is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a really, really good defensive unit again. OK, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be in the top 10, top five at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the year. That's not my problem. What
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  Speaker 2: I want to see is this. Davis Webb needs to
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  Speaker 2: do the things that had to be changed when he
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  Speaker 2: was given the play sheet. Sean Payton didn't hand Davis
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  Speaker 2: Webb the play sheet to call Sean Payton's offense. Right.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't.
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  Speaker 2: It was to stop the three and outs. It was
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  Speaker 2: to commit to running the football more. It was to
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  Speaker 2: get the plays in faster. It was to do all
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  Speaker 2: those things that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: In the first week.
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  Speaker 2: If we didn't talk about, for six straight months, Davis
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  Speaker 2: Webb becoming the offensive coordinator, would you have known by
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  Speaker 2: watching that game on Monday that Sean Payton wasn't calling plays?
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  Speaker 5: I would have no clue.
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  Speaker 4: That's my problem.
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  Speaker 5: There was absolutely, in fact, no, let me take that back.
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  Speaker 3: Vic.
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  Speaker 5: I'd have a clue. You know why? Because it regressed. True.
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  Speaker 5: It got worse. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Everything you were supposed to fix, you didn't fix. Fix
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  Speaker 6: it this weekend. Fix it on Sunday. 24-21.
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  Speaker 5: Is you or is you ain't on Sunday. Period. End
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  Speaker 5: of story. I gave you that score. I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: stick by it. It's 24-21. They put 24 points on
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  Speaker 5: the board. They give up 21.
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  Speaker 4: Spitting scores at me out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 5: But it's a number that hit me.
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  Speaker 6: You know what that makes you, though, right? It makes
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  Speaker 6: you a score spitter.
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  Speaker 5: Yep. I'm going to spit these scores. 24-21. Here's Landon.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so confused.
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  Speaker 6: Do we not remember the Jags played the Browns last week?
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  Speaker 6: The Jags could have played your mom, Landon.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. All right. Okay. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 5: Time out.
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  Speaker 3: Time out.
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  Speaker 5: Can I get a time out? Yeah, but what I'm
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  Speaker 5: saying is you can.
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  Speaker 6: You can spit away as we're talking about that, the opponent,
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  Speaker 6: all you want, they would have, they would have crushed
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  Speaker 6: most of the teams in the league.
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  Speaker 5: They're, they're that good. They're a good football team. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So are you Landon? So are you. And by the way, Landon,
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  Speaker 5: if you want to go back and you want to look.
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  Speaker 6: At stats from last year, especially week six on for
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  Speaker 6: the Jacksonville Jaguars, yeah, I know they lost to the
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  Speaker 6: Bills in a playoff game, but the Bills are a
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  Speaker 6: damn fine team, too. Probably should have, would have, could
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  Speaker 6: have beat the Broncos if Allen doesn't give the ball
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  Speaker 6: away 100 times.
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  Speaker 5: Jags are good. You're supposed to be good. Go win.
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  Speaker 6: 24-21.
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  Speaker 2: The Jags lost to the Bills in the playoffs because
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  Speaker 2: the Bills scored a touchdown with a minute left in
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like, they were right there on the doorstep.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Now, I think if you're going to go along
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  Speaker 2: sort of denigrating the Jags, you're barking up the wrong tree.
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  Speaker 2: The Jags have averaged 32 points a game over the last,
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  Speaker 2: what did we say it was?
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  Speaker 6: 12 games.
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  Speaker 3: 12 games.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of points. You're going to have to
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  Speaker 2: score to keep up with this. Again, not concerned with
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  Speaker 2: the defense. That does not mean that I think defensively
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  Speaker 2: you're going to hold them to 17 points. I bet
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  Speaker 2: the Jags score in the 20s. Be capable offense and
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  Speaker 2: you score in the twenties.
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  Speaker 5: Do that.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't, a texture says, Brett, what are you
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  Speaker 2: talking about? This is a Sean Payton offense. They're not
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  Speaker 2: Davis web plays their Peyton plays. I know people say
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  Speaker 2: this all the time that it's, well, it's still Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 4: Who's like running the offense.
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  Speaker 2: It's then why would he even do this? If you're
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  Speaker 2: telling me Davis Webb has no autonomy within the offense,
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  Speaker 2: he has no ability to do what he thinks is best,
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  Speaker 2: why would Sean Payton give that up at all? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is the whole point. You hand the sheet over
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  Speaker 2: to Davis Webb for what?
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  Speaker 4: So he can be your puppet... What is it?
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  Speaker 3: Not puppeteer?
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  Speaker 4: Ventriloquist dummy?
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  Speaker 3: Is that what.
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  Speaker 5: It is?
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  Speaker 6: Something with a puppet, something with an arm up somebody's backside.
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  Speaker 3: Are you telling me that Sean Payton's got his hand.
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  Speaker 5: Up inside of Davis Webb. No, he doesn't. And barking
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  Speaker 5: out plays through wires.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what's happening? Because I doubt it.
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't think Davis Webb would stay here for that.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think Sean Payton would give it away
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  Speaker 2: if that was the case. This is about Davis Webb.
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  Speaker 2: He has the ability to run his own offense.
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  Speaker 5: He can do that.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that the Broncos ran the football three times
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  Speaker 2: with J.K. Dobbins in the first half of a 7-7
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  Speaker 2: football game is not Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 4: That's Davis Webb. He's got to get that right.
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  Speaker 2: And again, watch the game last night. You got an
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  Speaker 2: MVP at quarterback for the Bills. You got a guy,
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Goff, that has thrown for 4,500 yards for the
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  Speaker 2: last three seasons. All of them, both teams, said, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to run the football first. We're doing that first.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to find out by the end of the
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  Speaker 3: season if it's the play calling or if it's the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Or both. We're going to find out. That's what the
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  Speaker 5: season is for.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Last night, wait, no, let me finish my thought.
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  Speaker 3: Last night I watched a game, well, both teams really,
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  Speaker 3: but one team where the quarterback was conducting a symphony.
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  Speaker 3: He was the most confident I've seen the quarterback in
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  Speaker 3: a long time. And I mean utter confidence where nothing
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  Speaker 3: could go wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Nothing. He was Andrea Bocelli out there. He was perfect.
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  Speaker 5: He was the sound of music. By the way, I'm
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  Speaker 5: seeing Andrea Bocelli tomorrow night. Are you really? Where's he at?
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  Speaker 5: It's a private gathering. None of your business.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very important.
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  Speaker 6: But Shelly's not playing a private gathering that you're going to.
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  Speaker 6: I can promise you that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, really? Really? I'm going to get a chance to
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  Speaker 5: meet him. Motley Crue's playing my birthday party in the backyard.
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  Speaker 5: How much do you want to make a bet?
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  Speaker 4: He's got friends with some deep pockets. No, I buy this.
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  Speaker 5: Do you know what Andrea Bocelli sings? He sings sweet music.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm a fan of sweet music. And Josh Allen
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  Speaker 5: was playing sweet music last night. Yeah, he was. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: he was.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the kind of sweet music that when you
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  Speaker 3: watch it, when you see it, you're like, wow, he's
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  Speaker 3: got the game on a string.
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  Speaker 5: Different deal.
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  Speaker 6: Different game when you got one of those. Why can't
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  Speaker 6: the Broncos play some sweet music for once?
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  Speaker 4: Well, maybe they can. Maybe it's this week. I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to back you up with some numbers, by the way. Moj,
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  Speaker 4: I got you. Don't you worry about it. Don't you
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  Speaker 4: worry about it, Moj. I got you.
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  Speaker 5: 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 2: It is Bud Light Football Friday. Our old buddy from
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  Speaker 2: the AP down in Jacksonville, Mark Long, is going to
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  Speaker 2: join us at 9 a.m. I feel like Mark Long,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: the first time we talked to him, I was like,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: can you just be a fourth co-host of the show?
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Because you fit right in.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: The Broncos should come in here and beat that ass.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: So we'll talk to that man at 9 o'clock.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: Those days are long gone.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Stick around.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: Because I got my music back. That's why.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: It's a Bud Light Football Friday. Mark Long will join
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: us at 9 a.m. Can I give you something that
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: we'll put in the category.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Of food for thought? Let me do that.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Here's what it is.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Everybody talking about, you know, a lot of this week
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: has been spent on on Bo Nix and That was
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: as bad a game as I think Bo Nix has
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: played as a Bronco in that first game, considering he's
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: in year three. And we have a game, multiple turnovers.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: He has four sacks.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: That may be, you know, a fifth of the total
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: sack number he takes the entire season. But there is
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: something that correlates between Bo Nix and Sean Payton when
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: it comes to early in the season, and that is
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: that both guys seem to struggle. Early in the year,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton notoriously throughout his head coaching career, Hall of
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Fame head coaching career. He's a 500 coach in the
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: month of September. 500. Let me give you some numbers
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: by month for Bo Nix through two years in a
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: game into his career. Bo Nix in the month of
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: December is four and five as a quarterback. He has
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: nine touchdowns and nine interceptions. So in nine games, he
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: has nine TDs and nine picks. In the month of October,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Bo Nix is 7-1 with a 15-2 touchdown-interception ratio.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Pretty good.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: In November, he's 6-2 with a 12-5 touchdown-interception ratio.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Also pretty good.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: In December, he's 5-3 with a 15-8 touchdown-interception ratio. And
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: in January, in two games, he's 2-0 and it's 4-0.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: All right. Slow start.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: How about this?
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: Pretty, pretty, pretty good. Warm up the engine in August
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: instead of September. Yeah.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: If you live in the great north, if you live
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: in like Minnesota, Michigan, Canada, Moj, what does every car
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: owner have, almost every car owner have.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: To get their car started in the morning? In Canada?
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, they plug it in.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: They actually have these little portable battery things to keep
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: your car warm so you can start it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: That's correct. Get one. Let's go. Well, who do you
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: plug it into?
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Get one.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Plug it into Bo?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I want to see a competent offense on Sunday.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: It's all I care about.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Frankly, I'm going to tell you right now, I don't
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: care how the defense plays.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I don't care if they lose.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I care a little bit.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I don't, I don't care. I know the defense will
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: come around. This defense is a proven, it's a proven commodity.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: The defense is, it's already showed us what it can do.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not worried.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I want to see offense. And I think I've said this,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: you guys, Hey, have we done this show for a
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: few years? Have you heard from me?
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Just a few.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: How many times have I made that comment?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I think every week, every year, but honestly, it's true. It's,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: There needs to be some point in which the offense
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: makes up or carries the load a little bit and
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: takes pressure off the defense.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: You know, it's the same.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Thing that we talk about all the time when it
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: comes to, you know, Jokic or somebody like that. You
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: got to have somebody else step up and play well.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: It can't always come down to what– how– How much
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: can he carry.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: You to a victory?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: How much can this defense carry you to a victory?
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Hey, fourth quarter comeback.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: That was great.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Why do we need the comeback? Why can't it be
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: a fourth quarter lead?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Why is the defense responsible for like, I got to
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: hold this team to 13 points in the fourth quarter
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to give a shot. It has to be the defense
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: or I'm sorry, the offense stepping up and doing their part.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: And it's just a lot of times they don't, they don't.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: And it puts so much pressure on the defense. Think
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: about it this way, guys, just for a moment, Was
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the defense, as far as tackling and all the problems
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: they had against the Chiefs, were they bad from start
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: to finish? Yeah, from the beginning of the game.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: To the end of the game. Yeah, you could tell
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: something was off defensively.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Do you know what the score was with two minutes
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: left in the first half? It was 7-7. They still
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: kept the Chiefs off the scoreboard.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: But you're off. went three and out four of the
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: first six drives.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Not only did they keep the Chiefs off the scoreboard,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: they intercepted a pass and brought it to you at
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: the four-yard line. They gave you the ball right there
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: at the precipice, and you went backwards.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: No excuse for that. Let me ask you this.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Either of those teams last night, you gave the Lions
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: or the Bills the ball at the four-yard line.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Would you even imagine them going backwards?
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: They're both scoring on the first play.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, just think about that for a second. Think
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: about how different these teams are when it comes to
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: something like that. And when you get surprised, like, oh,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I'll give you another example. The Evan Ingram touchdown.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Was part of you surprised? Yes. That's not a good reaction.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this, Vic.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: It's funny that you mention that. When Pat Bryant got
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: called for the holding penalty when they started the drive
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: at the four that took them to the 14, I
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: thought to myself, you aren't getting in the end zone now. Like,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: that was my first thought. You know what happened last night?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Because I swear to God, it was third and three
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: or something like that for the Bills. They got hit
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: with a holding penalty. Made it third and 13. My
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: first thought was, they're still getting this.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: They're going to get it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: They're still getting the first down.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're going to get it. You could have pushed
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: them back 20 yards.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: It didn't matter.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: They would have found a way to get the first down.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: And the fact that the Broncos, on Monday, started a
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: drive at the four, had one penalty.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Look, they're 14 yards away. Not ideal. But that's not crazy.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: It's not the end of the world.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: You should be able, on first and 14, to get
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: near the end zone again.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: And they didn't. All right, so we could talk about
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: this until we're blue in the face. How do you
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: want to see them actually execute this?
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: What has to happen?
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: And everybody keeps saying they'll establish the run. You don't
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: think Jacksonville knows this? Wasn't Jacksonville last year the best
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: team against the run?
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: You don't think the Jags know what the Broncos will try?
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: They gave up 85 yards a game on the ground.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: That's it. They were number one in the National Football League.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: So worst-case scenario, the Broncos get the ball first Sunday.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: They come out and say, we're going to establish the run.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And they have three runs for four yards, and they
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: go three and out. Then what? Then I reach for
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: the bottle of hemlock.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Well, look. At what point? So I guess what I'm
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: getting at is wanting to run and being able to
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: run two different things. What if this team just isn't
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: made to run the ball? It's not that team. But
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: they were last year.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: They ran the ball.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Effectively last year for 10 weeks until J.K.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Dobbins got hurt, they did. And he's back. And he's healthy. Like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: here's the weird thing. And this... this isn't like a
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: shot at you, Vic, or anything like that, but we.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Can't say at the same time, Hey, if JK Dobbins
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: was healthy for the AFC championship game, it would have
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: been a lot different. And then also say, well, maybe
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: they just don't run the football. Like you can't do
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: both things. And I think in the case of where
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the Broncos are at right now, they're, and.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: This is their problem.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Lakewald's talking about this.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: If they go out, And the first two runs of
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the game are a no gain and.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: A two-yard loss.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: You can't get away from it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: They'll be like, well, we can't do that again.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: No, you've got to stay with it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Five straight Bo Nicks incompletions doesn't bother them at all.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: They're like, I'll still throw the football.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: That's no problem. Got to stick with it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, just because, look, just because it's, You can't
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: just abandon it all the time, which is what they
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: like to do.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Stick with it, man. Keep pounding that rock.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: Now, if we get somewhere at halftime and you've got
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: a combined 36 yards rushing on 17 carries, then let's talk, okay?
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: And also....
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: You know, don't get big time behind. Don't get two
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: scores behind because then you'll have to pass the ball late.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: But the thing, Moshe, they weren't. They weren't. They weren't. No,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I know they weren't. I know they weren't. But I'm
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: telling you what the psychological tendencies are.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: If you're down 14 late in the game, sorry, running's
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: kind of out the window now.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: You got to score quick. But you have J.K. Dobbins who, again.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to keep emphasizing this because I don't think
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: people understand how impressive this is. In his career, he
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: averages five yards per carry. Go look at the guys
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: who average five yards per carry over the course of
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: their career and tell me their names, and you'll be like, oh,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: my God, these guys are amazing.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: J.K.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Dobbins is a very good running back when he's healthy.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: J.K.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Dobbins is healthy. Give very good running back to football.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And he might have a two-yard gain and then a
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: one-yard gain. But what did you do when you gave
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: him the football in the second half, Moshe? He had
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that big 17-yard run that you thought was going to
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: set up for a great drive, and it didn't. But still,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: he'll find a way to be productive. But it's about commitment.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And they are so much more committed to passing games
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: not working, but I'm going to force that into working.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Well, try the opposite of that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Again, if you just take it in this direction, Two
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: teams on Monday night were playing against each other.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: And on last night.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: One of them has.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I think Josh Allen is pretty destined for the Hall
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: of Fame, right? Maybe he needs a Super Bowl under
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: his belt.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: But he's MVP.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: They said at the beginning of that game, we're going
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to run the football. And they gave the ball to
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: James Cook. The Lions, who have a very good quarterback
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: in Jared Goff, gave the ball to Jameer Gibbs. That's
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: what sets up their offense. The Chiefs, on Monday night,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: have a Hall of Famer, one of the greatest quarterbacks
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: to ever live. And they ran Kenneth Walker six of
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the first eight plays?
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: What did the Broncos do?
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Actually, seven of the first nine plays. Can I ask
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: you another question that's very vital to this debate?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Very vital.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: The Broncos drafted Bo Nix because he can run the
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: football as well as throw it, correct?
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: He's versatile. He's a versatile running back back there when
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: he has to be, right?
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: How many times did he run the ball against Kansas City?
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Hang on. Off the top of your head, do you remember?
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I think it was like three.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: Were they designed? No, they were all scrambles.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Why aren't the Broncos running Bo Nix? Is it a
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: fear of injury? Because he's been through it. It was
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: a fluke injury. What is the problem there?
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Vic, I don't know. It's only one week. It's only
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: one week.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Maybe they're running more this week. Okay, I'm looking at
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: the opening drive.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing. Real quick, though. The Jags were the
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: best run defense last year in the league.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: But when you add that element, that added depth of
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: the quarterback being able to take off and run, it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: tough to account for that. And they're not going to
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: spy Bo Nix. So, yeah, if you want to design
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: some stuff where he actually keeps the ball and uses
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: his legs, I'm in.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you something else, by the way? I
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: don't care that they're number one in the league in
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: run defense last year. You have the highest paid offensive
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: line in football. You built your entire team around, we
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: don't care what's in front of us. We spent the
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: money to do this, so do it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Last night, opening drive by Buffalo. Tell me if this
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: slaps you in the face. Cook up the middle for
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: 12 yards. Allen took a sack. Allen scrambles for 13 yards.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: Cook, one yard.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Can you pause right there, Vic?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: If that sack happened in the Broncos offense, that drive's done.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: What was that? Was that like second and 15? After
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: that sack?
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Let's see. Sacked for minus four yards, second and 15. Yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: That scramble set them up for third and short, which
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: moved the chance.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Of course, yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: So the quarterback uses his wheels. He has God-given gift,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: which Bo has as well. God-given gift.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: Use the wheels.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Then Cook for a yard. Allen scrambles for 12 more yards.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Short pass for 13. Cook for 10 yards. Allen scramble touchdown.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: And.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: What did that drive encompass? That drive was Josh Allen.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: It was using his.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Versatility to make plays happen. Because guess what? How many
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: times did this happen last night, if you guys are watching,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: by the way? Josh Allen would roll out of the pocket,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and he'd have some guy that's running with him, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: you're forcing the defender to make the choice, do I
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: continue to cover, or do I run up and try
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and tackle Josh Allen and leave my guy behind? And
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: most of the time, they're like, well, I'm not going
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to give up the pass. And then Josh Allen takes
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: off for eight, nine, ten yards.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Opening touchdown of the Chiefs drive. Patrick Mahomes, nine months
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: removed from ACL surgery, ran the ball twice.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Once was called back. The other one should have, but twice. Yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: in a row.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: What are we doing?
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: Why, why, why do they, what, is it a fear thing?
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: What is it? Vic, I don't know. I don't. Again,
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: small sample size for this year. Small sample size.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: In that case, the Bills and the Chiefs didn't call
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: designed runs for Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes in those instances.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: That's Bo Nix making the decision.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: It's on the quarterback to go.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Just go.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Don't be hesitant. Go.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I've told you, I think that Bo Nix sometimes gets into.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: He way overthinks things. It's like too much is going
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: on up here.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I've mentioned this going back to last year. Sean Payton
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: has that thing where it's his formula for the negative plays, right?
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: It's interceptions and sacks and whatever.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Is he in his head thinking.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Can't take a sack, can't take a.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Sack, can't throw a pick, can't take a sack? Is
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: is that all that's going through his head so he's
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: just playing the safest route he can which is dumping
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: something off and being like well that's not a mistake it's.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: What certainly was not on Monday night in his head
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: I mean he He got sacked more than he ever does.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: He turned the ball over more than he ever does.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: He had that wild scramble from his right back to
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: his left and then got popped and lost the ball.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: You know, Snead was out of bounds. But, I mean, Brett,
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: you know what? It's been ingrained in him. It's been
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: ingrained in him and ingrained in him. And I can
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: see what you're talking about there. His brain wasn't working
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: like that on Monday, so we'll see.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: But does he, just real quick, Vic, when's the last
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: time you can conjure up Bo Nix throwing a ball
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: into a tight window?
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Even attempting to.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Well, he did on the third play of the game.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: He was intercepted. Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, making a throw in a tight window, I
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: think he's just kind of scared to do it because
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: he doesn't.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Want to make the mistake like that.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Did you see late in the game last night?
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: And again, it's so unfair to be comparing Josh Allen
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: to anybody. Did you see that touchdown late fourth quarter
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: where he's looking off the safety? He got his eyes
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: on the left side of the end zone. And he
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: knew he was going to go to the He's going
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: to go to his tight end over the middle.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Yep. He knew it the entire time. And his eyes
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: never left the left side of the end zone in
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: the safety bit.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Hey, what was the safety doing when Kincaid cut it
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: in the middle? What was the line safety?
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Yes, that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, but you're right, Vic. I don't know what
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: the safety... I don't know what that particular safety was
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: looking at. The one safety had the wideout covered in
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: the corner of the end zone, and Allen sold it well.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: And Kincaid, when you watch that route... As soon as
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: he gets past the linebacker, as soon as he gets
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: past him, his head turns around and he's presenting himself
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: like a golden god, like, throw me the ball, I'm open,
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: because this safety here is going, and the linebacker's going,
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: where'd he go?
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, when you watch a beautiful offense work like that, Vic,
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: it's amazing.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: It is year three. It is decision time with your
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: franchise quarterback. Do you pay him or not? In year three,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: You have to be decisive.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah. You have to be.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: This is the year of being decisive back there. You
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: can't sit there and wonder and, like, bobble the ball.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: The year three, that's the make or break year.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Are you or aren't you? Correct?
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Is you is or is you ain't?
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Is you is or is you ain't?
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: That question should be answered on Sunday, and it better
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: be a is.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Start your football weekend with Nate and Andy today at
• 32:23
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• 32:27
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  Speaker 2: Isle of from 3 to 6 today with Nate and
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Andy back after this.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: All right, two thoughts.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is that's absolutely beautiful. Like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: it's just beautiful. My second thought is, I can't hear
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: this without picturing Will Ferrell.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: You're right. You're right. At the Catalina Line Mixer?
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's gorgeous.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: This song is beautiful, and all I think of is
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Will Ferrell when I hear it. So, a few things
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: on this Bud Light Football Friday. I want to dip
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: our toes in the college waters here for a moment,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: because there are two massive games going on this weekend.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And I think both of these games can prove.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I think there's tepid optimism with both CU and CSU
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: through the first two weeks of the season. Like maybe
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: we got something here. And I think in both cases,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: this weekend will prove whether you can totally go into
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: that optimism or maybe still stay on the fence.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: A little bit. We fixing to find out.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: CSU has the number 11 team in the country coming
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to town. BYU opened as a 21 point favorite. It's
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: down to 17 and a half. I think people are
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: believing in what Jim Moore is doing at CSU.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: But I've got it at 18 and a half.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Can you keep this game within striking distance?
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Make it competitive. Yes. That's a win.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I think you don't have to win.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: We all know. Well, we all found out a couple
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: of days ago.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: 24 consecutive losses to top 25 ranked opponents. You don't
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: have to beat BYU to keep this arrow pointing forward.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: But you'd like to see this game competitive. You'd like
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to see yourself have a shot. in the second half.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And I think they can do it. And if they do,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: by the way, gosh, I'm already really in on Jim Mora.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I would be even more in by the end of
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: that and what he's building. Because I talk about this
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: a lot for the conference you play in in the Pac-12.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: If you play a clean, fundamentally sound football game, Not
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of penalties, no turnovers. You're going to win
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: a lot in the Pac-12. That couldn't do it in
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the SEC. Georgia's five stars will overcome that, but you
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: could do that in the Pac-12.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: I think it'll keep you in there against BYU, too.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: I can't really see anything about this game.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, because it's on tap later?
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, I figured that's what it was.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'll say this. Hoss Haney is fun to watch.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: He is fun to watch. If you guys see anything
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: to rip me off here, what I have coming up
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: later on in the show.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: Don't worry about it. He can beat you through the air,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: and he ain't afraid to take it to the house
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: with his feet.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: By the way, BYU knows that. BYU is well aware
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: of his dual threat ability. I think they're a little
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: nervous about it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Cosmo, the mascot, who is the best mascot in all sports,
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: mind you. I'm sorry. I hate to offend our local mascots,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: but Cosmo's unreal.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: The push-up dude?
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: He's unreal.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: He's doing push-ups on folding.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Chairs at the top of them, balancing himself.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: He's a freaking clown show. He's the greatest mascot ever.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Did you see what he did in the last game?
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: He did a flip, like this acrobatic flip, lost his head.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: His mascot head came off.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: That's a big no-no.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: That's a no. And so he hid underneath the mat
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: until he got his head back. All right.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: It's funny, actually.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Why do they have to be so secretive? Why is
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: that a rule? That you can't know who's underneath the
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: mascot suit?
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Because then they'll know that it's Steve Nelson.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: What if, you know what? What if for years, years.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Raj was Rocky?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: No, not Raj.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Like, Elway was Dinger.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: You're just like, wait, just a side job. Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: It's just like, you wanted to have some fun in retirement.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Shake the dinosaur tail.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: All right, here we go.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: To the CU part of things. I think CU has
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: got to win this game. I know that they are
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: three and a half point dogs against Northwestern. Northwestern won
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: by 16 points against a South Dakota state and their
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: only game earlier this year.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Northwestern.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Still, like, trying to bounce back from the Pat Fitzgerald era,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: find some identity.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: They ain't better than Georgia Tech. This is a very
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: winnable game for CU.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing, and I'll give Prime and CU
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: full credit for this. All offseason, they said, it's year four.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: You got to show me that things are different, man.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: It's your fourth year here. This can't be, well, did
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: you see where they started? We're an entire recruiting cycle, traditionally,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: into this coaching regime. There has to be signs of improvement.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: In the first two weeks, I saw something from CU
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that I don't think, well, certainly we've never seen.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't think I was ever going to see.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: Stopping the run?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: And running the football.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: And running the football, yeah.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: They run the football and they stop the run.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: Stopping the run and running the football, yeah.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I know that's like a very basic tenet of football,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: but they just haven't done it for three straight years.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I give them full credit. They've been excellent at that
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks. And I think this is
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: a game you've got to go into Northwestern and win.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: You're 3-0, like....
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: You could be riding a pretty high wave here after
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: this weekend.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: Vic, I like what you said there. And I never
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: put it that way in my own mind. The Northwestern
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: Wildcats ain't better.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Than Georgia Tech.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: No.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: They ain't. They would lose to Georgia Tech. I believe
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: that they would lose to Georgia Tech. So by that definition,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: then CU should beat Northwestern. I don't understand.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Just because Northwestern is in the Big Ten and they've
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: had a history, I get it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: They're not that good.
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: No.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: They're not that good. You're getting me. Oh, I'm getting tingly.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I'm a stinger.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: About this weekend?
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: I wonder if I want, maybe I want to add
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: this one on.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: Do I want to add this one on?
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: You're only limited to three. No, I get four.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Oh, you get four now. Do I want to add
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: this one on? I'm on the fence about this in
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: an NFL game that I like.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: So in 2024, Northwestern was four and eight. 2-7 in
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Big Ten conference play. Their wins that year were over
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Purdue in overtime, Maryland, Eastern Illinois, and Miami of Ohio.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: Does Maryland even have a college football program anymore? You
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: never hear. How the hell are they in the Big Ten?
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: You never hear. No, they're the ACC, right? No, they're
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: in the Big Ten.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jesus.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: You never hear about the Terps football program anymore, ever.
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: They were in the ACC.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Last year, they were 6-6. 4-5 in the Big Ten.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: They kept it close with teams like, look, this is,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: they're a competitive football team. Not great, but competitive. And
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I think Vic's right. If they lined up against Georgia Tech,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I think they'd lose to Georgia Tech.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: Let me make it very easy on you.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Would you rather go on the road to play Northwestern
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: or stay at home to play BYU?
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I'd rather go on the road to play Northwestern. It's
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: not even close.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, BYU's the 11th ranked team in the country.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: CU's got a very winnable game. And they should win,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: even though they're underdogs. It's a very winnable game. CSU's
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: game is, whew, good luck.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I know that all you're looking for is the result.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: You just want to get the win. Georgia Tech game
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: was strange. Because we are talking about, you know, this
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: is a 2-0 football team with a chance to ride
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: pretty high on some of these waves, right? It did
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: take a last-second touchdown drive for you to get to
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: 14 points to win 14-13. It did take you blocking
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: a field goal at the end of the game to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: also win. That if either one of those things doesn't happen,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: we probably aren't speaking the way that we are.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: But they also had a couple opportunities. You know, listen,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: it's week one.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Crazy stuff happens. Here's one thing I do know, Brett.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: Last year, none of that happened. True. Last year, they
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: didn't do any of that crap.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Very true.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: And they did it against Georgia Tech, and then they
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: had their blowout win against Weber, which is what.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: They should have done.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: They should have blown out Weber State. Hell, man, I'm
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: old enough to remember a time around these parts when
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: the Sac State Hornets came in here and beat the Buffs.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: No.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they did. They also beat the Rams.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, I was going to say the Rams.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: I remember a time when Montana State came in here
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: and beat the Buffs.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Don't play any Montana school. Or Dakota school.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: Don't play the Bobcats or the Grizz. You're going to
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: find out real quick that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Anything with Montana or Dakota in it is not a
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: game that should be on your schedule.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Although Northwestern beats South Dakota State.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Who are the... I mean... What about Montana Tech? Yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: you can bust them. Tech school's fine.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, those are all the guys who don't... All the
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Montana kids who don't go hunting or fishing and.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: They like to... They go to Montana Tech.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: What about Hannah Montana Beauty School?
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: They'd slaughter them. Absolutely blow them away.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: What was our school that we had? Mississippi College for
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Women or something like that?
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Yes, that has a men's basketball team.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Ladies, how are you? See you in class.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I'm also pumped, and I think this game's going to
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: be on our airwaves this weekend.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Hannah Montana Tech? Yes. That's funny.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: On AM 950 at 530 tomorrow, it's going to be
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: LSU and Ole Miss, and I am so excited. Because now,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it, Sam Leavitt has
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: been upgraded from doubtful to questionable now to play in
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: this game.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: That's why LSU's hanging tough as a three-point favorite on
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: the road in Oxford.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin, if given the opportunity, is going to try
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: and win this game by five million points. I swear
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to God, if they were up 20 points with two
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: minutes to go, There's no knees being taken. He is
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: going to throw a ball into the end zone. Like,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: he is going to do whatever he can. And it's
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: part of the reason why I'm sorry.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I've crossed the line.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I'm officially here.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I'll admit it to all of you right now. I
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: love Lane Kiffin. I love what he does for college football.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I love that he has no problem being hated.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: I love all of it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I love that he has the balls to actually stand
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: up and question the SEC. Where they're like, if you
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: do this, we'll expel you.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah? Do it. Do it!
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: No, kick LSU out of the conference.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I love this guy. And I hope he does.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like Ole Miss and I like Trinidad Chambliss.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: But we all know, right? If he can win this
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: game by 50 points, he's going to win this game
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: by 50 points.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: He's going to put it on.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Hey, allow me, if you don't mind, to also discuss
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: a game that we have tonight on Altitude Sports Radio
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: and Altitude Television. It is one of The biggest high
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: school matchups in the country. Not just the state of Colorado.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: This is the biggest game of the year in the
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: state of Colorado. But it's listed on all these high
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: school websites. One of the biggest matchups in the country.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Number one, Cherry Creek. 30-game win streak. 30 games in
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: a row. Against number two, Valor Christian.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: At Valor. Tonight.
• 44:09
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• 44:14
  Speaker 3: like one of the top ten in the country, right, Vic?
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is huge.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: This is a huge game. Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: And I have a feeling, a sneaking suspicion, no matter
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: what happens tonight, result-wise, these teams will meet again in
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: the playoffs.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: I'm sure that you're correct about that. You know the
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: coach is going to be fired up. You know the
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: Dave's going to be fired up.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: This is great, man.
• 44:35
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• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Right here, Altitude Sports Radio 92.5, also on Altitude Television.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Mark Long joins us in an hour to get a
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: preview of the Jags back after this.