Latest / The Death Of Journalism / Episode Two Hundred Ninety Six: Broken Nation
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two hundred and ninety six of the
- 0:02Speaker 1: Death of Journalism podcast. My name is John Zigler. I'm
- 0:05Speaker 1: your hostling today's show. President Trump continues to look like
- 0:08Speaker 1: a loser in the war with Iran. The two hundred
- 0:11Speaker 1: and fiftieth July fourth celebrations seem like a disaster. The
- 0:15Speaker 1: California primary election provides me with plenty of vindication. There
- 0:19Speaker 1: is a literal meltdown at CBS's sixty Minutes. I interview
- 0:24Speaker 1: my daughter Grace for her fourteenth birthday. She has some
- 0:27Speaker 1: interesting things to say, and there is a bill in
- 0:29Speaker 1: Congress to try to save college sports. We begin this
- 0:35Speaker 1: episode of the podcast, as we have for the last
- 0:37Speaker 1: several months, with the latest in the war with Iran,
- 0:40Speaker 1: which once again seems to be going very poorly for
- 0:43Speaker 1: Donald Trump in his attempt to end it in a
- 0:45Speaker 1: way where he can plausibly declare victory. At last check,
- 0:50Speaker 1: the Iranians have walked away from the negotiating table. And
- 0:54Speaker 1: there was a report, and I'm always skeptical of these
- 0:57Speaker 1: kinds of reports, but it was in great detail, with
- 1:00Speaker 1: multiple sources. Although the news outlet that reported at first
- 1:04Speaker 1: was Axios, a liberal outlet which always makes me a
- 1:07Speaker 1: little bit skeptical, but it got a lot of publicity
- 1:11Speaker 1: from other news outlets, including Fox News Channel. The report
- 1:15Speaker 1: was that Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister
- 1:18Speaker 1: of Israel, had a very very contentious call where Trump
- 1:22Speaker 1: effectively read net Yaho the Riot Act. Again, I'm not
- 1:27Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure how accurate this is, although the
- 1:30Speaker 1: details were very precise and consistently reported. Sometimes these kinds
- 1:35Speaker 1: of things get leaked to make it look like Trump
- 1:38Speaker 1: behind the scenes as being a strong man, even when
- 1:42Speaker 1: publicly he looks weak. But let's just presume for a
- 1:44Speaker 1: second there's at least some truth to this. This is
- 1:47Speaker 1: rather telling because by all accounts, it was Netan Yahoo
- 1:51Speaker 1: that charmed Trump into going ahead with this war to
- 1:54Speaker 1: begin with, and now Trump is looking for a scapegoat
- 1:57Speaker 1: now that it's not going at the end the way
- 1:59Speaker 1: that he would love. He's got to be very frustrated.
- 2:01Speaker 1: He won all the battles, but he can't seem to
- 2:03Speaker 1: win the war, mainly because Iran doesn't seem to give
- 2:06Speaker 1: a damn and they have really nothing to lose, and
- 2:09Speaker 1: their timeline is very different than ours. And I think
- 2:12Speaker 1: the implications of this and the midterm elections are looking
- 2:15Speaker 1: very very grim for the Republican Party. And much like
- 2:18Speaker 1: the Iranians don't seem to care about the things, we
- 2:21Speaker 1: give a damn about it. The other peer as if
- 2:23Speaker 1: Trump cares about the midterm elections, at least not publicly.
- 2:26Speaker 1: So that's a very bad scenario for the Republican Party.
- 2:29Speaker 1: But as of this moment, still no real progress in
- 2:32Speaker 1: ending the war in Iran. Now there's other fronts where
- 2:36Speaker 1: Trump is being embarrassed, and the most dramatic is clearly
- 2:41Speaker 1: what's going on with the celebrations of our two hundred
- 2:44Speaker 1: and fiftieth birthday July fourth. Obviously, this being twenty twenty six,
- 2:49Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty years since July fourth of seventeen
- 2:53Speaker 1: seventy six and the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
- 2:56Speaker 1: This is really a remarkable development. I think is so
- 3:01Speaker 1: very very telling about how broken our entire nation is,
- 3:04Speaker 1: especially when it comes to being united. Obviously that's a
- 3:08Speaker 1: big part of our branding, where the United States of America,
- 3:12Speaker 1: at least we were, and we certainly were during the
- 3:15Speaker 1: two hundredth anniversary of the country. I've been seeing a
- 3:19Speaker 1: lot of videos that have kind of confirmed my perception,
- 3:23Speaker 1: and I always was skeptical of my perception because back
- 3:26Speaker 1: in seventeen, in seventeen seventy six, nineteen seventy six, I
- 3:31Speaker 1: was only nine years old, but I had a very
- 3:33Speaker 1: very strong memory of the bisentennial being a massive deal
- 3:37Speaker 1: and a very unified celebration. Now, memories can be hazy.
- 3:42Speaker 1: We tend to look at the past with rose colored glasses.
- 3:44Speaker 1: But I've been seeing a lot of people of my
- 3:46Speaker 1: age group with the exact same memory and perception of
- 3:50Speaker 1: what happened in seventeen seventy six, and that is not
- 3:53Speaker 1: happening in twenty twenty six. And we now have evidence
- 3:58Speaker 1: that it's not going to be anything like in nineteen
- 4:00Speaker 1: seventy six with the two hundredth anniversary of the independence
- 4:05Speaker 1: of America against Great Britain, because Trump's attempt to do
- 4:10Speaker 1: a freedom concert around the July fourth celebrations have completely
- 4:16Speaker 1: and totally collapsed in embarrassing fashion. I mean this, You
- 4:20Speaker 1: could not possibly have perioded how terrible, how awful, and
- 4:26Speaker 1: how pathetic this entire effort was. So there was an
- 4:31Speaker 1: announcement of an incredibly weak slate of musical performing acts
- 4:37Speaker 1: for the celebrations, for Freedom two fifty. Now there's two
- 4:42Speaker 1: different celebrations, but the Freedom two fifty is the one
- 4:45Speaker 1: more associated with Trump but still officially part of the
- 4:49Speaker 1: United States government. But this isn't the congressional celebration. This
- 4:53Speaker 1: is the presidential celebration. And the slate of performers was
- 4:57Speaker 1: incredibly weak. Incl voted, among others, Millie Vanilli, Milli Vanilly,
- 5:05Speaker 1: the act that was disgraced for being fake, and one
- 5:08Speaker 1: of the two guys is dead because of a suicide
- 5:12Speaker 1: or drug overdues, whatever you want to call it, many
- 5:14Speaker 1: years ago. Somehow Milli Vanilli made the grade. But I mean,
- 5:19Speaker 1: Martina McBride was probably the headliner, and she hasn't been
- 5:23Speaker 1: a thing for a couple of decades at least, And
- 5:27Speaker 1: that was bad enough, that was pathetic enough that for
- 5:30Speaker 1: our two hundred and fiftieth celebration, that's the best that
- 5:34Speaker 1: the Presidential Committee to celebrate this could do for musical acts.
- 5:39Speaker 1: But that was just the beginning. Because Martina McBride, I
- 5:44Speaker 1: guess realized that she had been duped. She didn't realize
- 5:47Speaker 1: this was going to be a very pro political, pro
- 5:50Speaker 1: Trump political event. Now I don't know what she was
- 5:53Speaker 1: basing that on other than just history. But at some
- 5:55Speaker 1: level she felt as if she had been manipulated into
- 5:59Speaker 1: saying yeah to this, and once she abandoned ship, the
- 6:04Speaker 1: rats all left the ship. Brett Michaels, who's not a
- 6:07Speaker 1: big act anymore. And it was actually on Donald Trump's Apprentice,
- 6:11Speaker 1: he bailed. Basically everybody bailed, essentially everybody I think but
- 6:16Speaker 1: Vanilla Ice and maybe somebody else bailed from an already
- 6:19Speaker 1: pathetic slate of performers, and so instead of trying to
- 6:24Speaker 1: bring in somebody to save the day, and it's just
- 6:26Speaker 1: astonishing to me, it's absolutely so telling about how pathetically
- 6:31Speaker 1: divided we are that you can't find even one major,
- 6:36Speaker 1: say country act like a Tim McGraw and Faith Hill.
- 6:39Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that they're conservative, but I
- 6:41Speaker 1: don't think they're liberal either. Where you just pay them
- 6:44Speaker 1: enough money to headline an event where they would get
- 6:47Speaker 1: a lot of publicity and it would be obviously very patriotic,
- 6:52Speaker 1: all because it's perceived as being Donald Trump's event. You
- 6:56Speaker 1: can't even get that done even with money. Let me
- 6:59Speaker 1: get you erectly, he got all sorts of resources to
- 7:02Speaker 1: entice someone to participate in this and yet everyone bailed,
- 7:07Speaker 1: and so what's the solution. Donald Trump's actually going to
- 7:10Speaker 1: do exactly what Martina McBride and others were afraid was
- 7:13Speaker 1: going to happen with this event. He's going to make
- 7:15Speaker 1: it a Donald Trump centric event. He's going to speak
- 7:19Speaker 1: fear not, I'm the greatest entertainer in the world. I
- 7:23Speaker 1: will come forward and I will save the day. Bullshit.
- 7:27Speaker 1: That's pathetic, it's ridiculous. And while it's disappointing that what
- 7:32Speaker 1: should be a great opportunity for the country to get together,
- 7:36Speaker 1: come together, be unified, and celebrate our remarkable history of
- 7:40Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty years, that's bad enough. But to me,
- 7:44Speaker 1: the most important part of this is it just exposes
- 7:48Speaker 1: one how unbelievably toxic Donald Trump is. I mean, conservatives,
- 7:53Speaker 1: mag of people have no idea. They call it Trump
- 7:56Speaker 1: derangement syndrome. And yes, some of it's over the top
- 7:59Speaker 1: and Iraq national. But at a certain point, it doesn't
- 8:02Speaker 1: matter if it's based in rationality or if it's fair
- 8:06Speaker 1: that one of the number one jobs of the President
- 8:09Speaker 1: of United States is to maintain our unity. I mean,
- 8:14Speaker 1: that's what Abraham Lincoln was all about. The Union, the Union,
- 8:18Speaker 1: the Union, and Donald Trump has done more to divide,
- 8:22Speaker 1: at least socially and culturally and yes, politically, the Union
- 8:26Speaker 1: than any other president in modern history. And it's and
- 8:30Speaker 1: this is a perfect example of this. Can you imagine
- 8:34Speaker 1: if our founding fathers were told two hundred and fifty
- 8:36Speaker 1: years ago, look, guys, this is gonna go great for
- 8:39Speaker 1: a long time. But two hundred and fifty years to now,
- 8:42Speaker 1: we're gonna have a situation where we're gonna try to
- 8:44Speaker 1: celebrate what you did today and we're not even gonna
- 8:48Speaker 1: be able to get any major entertainment musical acts to
- 8:52Speaker 1: participate because they're so afraid of the toxicity of the
- 8:55Speaker 1: person who is currently the president of the United States.
- 8:59Speaker 1: And the founders would be like, what, what the hell
- 9:01Speaker 1: are you talking about? How is that possible? But that's
- 9:05Speaker 1: where we are. And it's not just the July fourth celebrations,
- 9:10Speaker 1: But that's the most obvious, the most dramatic, maybe the
- 9:13Speaker 1: most impactful, because I think a lot of people were
- 9:16Speaker 1: looking forward to what this might be like, and now,
- 9:19Speaker 1: at least for half of the government funded and sponsored celebrations,
- 9:25Speaker 1: it's going to be a complete and total political joke
- 9:28Speaker 1: that no one except for MAGA cult members will take seriously.
- 9:33Speaker 1: But it's also other areas of life. We're seeing it
- 9:36Speaker 1: on almost a daily basis. The quarterback for the New
- 9:40Speaker 1: York Football Giants, Jackson Dark, can't even introduce the President
- 9:44Speaker 1: of the United States without it causing a complete catastrophe
- 9:48Speaker 1: within his locker room. Now, I'm not going to defend
- 9:51Speaker 1: the reaction of some including Abdul Carter, former Penn Stater
- 9:56Speaker 1: of course PC Penn Stater, who had to come an
- 10:00Speaker 1: attack his quarterback publicly, and then you know they had
- 10:04Speaker 1: to have a rock pro schma. But the reality is
- 10:07Speaker 1: that Jackson Dart was treated as if he had committed
- 10:10Speaker 1: some sort of crime by introducing the President of United
- 10:12Speaker 1: States of the public event that would never happen previously.
- 10:16Speaker 1: That only happens because of Donald Trump's toxicity. Speaking of
- 10:20Speaker 1: New York, Trump just even mentions that he wants to
- 10:23Speaker 1: go to the NBA Finals at Madison Square Garden to
- 10:26Speaker 1: watch the Knicks, by the way, his home city, and
- 10:29Speaker 1: he's been at Knicks games previously before he was president,
- 10:33Speaker 1: and that causes a complete meltdown. Oh my god, Trump's
- 10:39Speaker 1: going to hijack the NBA Finals. We can't allow us
- 10:42Speaker 1: to happen. I have no knowledge of whether he's actually
- 10:44Speaker 1: going to even try to do that now, but that
- 10:47Speaker 1: became a controversy. This is the type of thing that
- 10:50Speaker 1: would never happen with a normal presidency, and it matters,
- 10:54Speaker 1: and it bothers me greatly that the MAGA people they
- 10:58Speaker 1: think that this is a sign that liberals just don't
- 11:02Speaker 1: get it, that it's liberal's fault. And again, I fully
- 11:06Speaker 1: acknowledge that there are people who lost their minds when
- 11:10Speaker 1: it comes to Donald Trump. But perception is reality, and
- 11:15Speaker 1: this is why you don't have a president that is
- 11:18Speaker 1: so divisive, because when it gets to a certain point
- 11:21Speaker 1: and he's unpopular because the economy is perceived is not
- 11:25Speaker 1: doing well, and he's in a war that most people
- 11:27Speaker 1: don't seem to won, and he doesn't appear to be
- 11:30Speaker 1: fulfilling his campaign promises, and he promised the world and
- 11:33Speaker 1: he's not delivering, and you get a situation where he's
- 11:36Speaker 1: got a thirty seven percent approval rating, and by the way,
- 11:39Speaker 1: the other sixty some percent don't just disapprove, they hate
- 11:42Speaker 1: his fucking guts. That has ramifications where you can't even
- 11:46Speaker 1: do a goddamn decent celebration of the two hundred and
- 11:49Speaker 1: fifteen anniversary of the greatest country that's ever been created.
- 11:53Speaker 1: You can't even have the quarterback of the New York
- 11:56Speaker 1: Giants introduced the president of the public event without it
- 11:59Speaker 1: being a cat astrophe. I mean, that has implications. And
- 12:04Speaker 1: this is one of the many reasons I have never
- 12:07Speaker 1: supported a Donald Trump presidency because I view one of
- 12:11Speaker 1: our mandates as the United States of America to remain
- 12:16Speaker 1: at least somewhat united, at least on the surface. And
- 12:21Speaker 1: I get it, trust me, I live through the Bush
- 12:24Speaker 1: era where they hated George Bush. They're gonna hate any Republican,
- 12:29Speaker 1: but it was never to this leg Yeah, yes, they
- 12:31Speaker 1: hated George Bush during the Iraq War, no question about it.
- 12:36Speaker 1: But I honestly do not believe it was anything close
- 12:40Speaker 1: to what it is with Donald Trump. And Trump revels
- 12:43Speaker 1: in it, and his base loves it. They think it's
- 12:46Speaker 1: a sign he's doing a good job. When he's hated
- 12:49Speaker 1: by the left and they've got TDS at this point,
- 12:53Speaker 1: it's way way beyond that, and we've become dysfunctional, literally dysfunctional. Well,
- 12:59Speaker 1: we can't even do a decent celebration for our two
- 13:02Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth anniversary. So I thought that was very disappointing,
- 13:07Speaker 1: very telling, and probably not getting enough attention. It got
- 13:11Speaker 1: a lot of attention, but to me, it's incredibly indicative
- 13:15Speaker 1: of where we are and how broken we are as
- 13:18Speaker 1: a country, and how many negative implications there are to
- 13:23Speaker 1: a Donald Trump presidency that have nothing really to do
- 13:26Speaker 1: directly with his policies or his performance within the policy
- 13:31Speaker 1: realm of the presidency. Now, speaking of politics, I want
- 13:36Speaker 1: to at least address what's been going on here in
- 13:39Speaker 1: California with our primary elections, although we have no idea
- 13:43Speaker 1: as of this taping when the votes will actually all
- 13:47Speaker 1: be counted, and that should be the headline talk about
- 13:50Speaker 1: beating dysfunctional. How dysfunctional is it that the state of California,
- 13:56Speaker 1: where we supposedly embrace new technologies, it's the home of
- 14:01Speaker 1: Silicon Valley and AI and all that other stuff. We
- 14:04Speaker 1: live in a world where the state of California counts
- 14:09Speaker 1: about half the votes at like ten o'clock at night
- 14:13Speaker 1: on election night and just says, eh, well, we'll pick
- 14:16Speaker 1: it up tomorrow and we'll count a bunch of votes
- 14:19Speaker 1: again tomorrow. And we have no idea how long this
- 14:22Speaker 1: is going to take us. It might take us days,
- 14:24Speaker 1: it might take us weeks. We really have no idea.
- 14:27Speaker 1: That's a complete and total joke and should be mocked
- 14:31Speaker 1: by the rest of the nation, and it should be
- 14:33Speaker 1: much like Trump's failure to put on a July fourth celebration,
- 14:37Speaker 1: it ought to be seen as an indication that California
- 14:41Speaker 1: is completely, fundamentally, totally broken and not to be emulated.
- 14:46Speaker 1: But with that said, based upon what we currently know,
- 14:49Speaker 1: which is a little bit more than half of the
- 14:51Speaker 1: vote being counted in California, there were two races that
- 14:55Speaker 1: got have a lot a lot of attention. The first
- 14:58Speaker 1: is the governor's race, and trump toxicity has been seen
- 15:03Speaker 1: and his influence has been seen in both of the
- 15:06Speaker 1: major races here in California. First is the governor's race,
- 15:10Speaker 1: and just as I predicted, Steve Hilton, because of Trump's endorsement,
- 15:16Speaker 1: ended up blowing the doors off of the other Republican,
- 15:19Speaker 1: Chad Bianco, and it looks like he's going to make
- 15:22Speaker 1: the runoff in November against Javier Bishera, who is a
- 15:28Speaker 1: guy with absolutely no charisma, no great history. He's a
- 15:34Speaker 1: Latino and could be the first likely now the first
- 15:38Speaker 1: Latino governor in the history of California, and he's not
- 15:42Speaker 1: Tom Steyer. And I made a prediction that Tom Steyer
- 15:47Speaker 1: had actually spent so much money on television ads that
- 15:50Speaker 1: he was now hurting his campaign. I have no hard
- 15:53Speaker 1: data to prove this, it's all anecdotal. But when I
- 15:57Speaker 1: posted on social media last night that thank good because
- 16:01Speaker 1: it looks like Hilton, thanks to Trump's endorsement, and Bishera,
- 16:05Speaker 1: are going to be the two in the California runoff
- 16:08Speaker 1: if you will in November, that this will save California
- 16:12Speaker 1: from having to endure four or five more months of
- 16:15Speaker 1: Tom Steyer's absolutely douchey television commercials. I got a lot
- 16:20Speaker 1: of responses from Democrats who said, yeah, that's why I
- 16:25Speaker 1: didn't vote for him. I don't know how truthful that is,
- 16:28Speaker 1: but I thought that was interesting. It was a vindication
- 16:31Speaker 1: of something that I had said that I was picking
- 16:34Speaker 1: up on because Stier was actually not making any more
- 16:37Speaker 1: headway in the polls. He was spending up the two
- 16:39Speaker 1: hundred million dollars on these ubiquitous, terrible television ads, and
- 16:44Speaker 1: I felt like they had reached beyond the point of
- 16:46Speaker 1: diminishing marginal returns and maybe even actually hurting him at
- 16:51Speaker 1: least antidotally. There's some evidence of that, because there were
- 16:54Speaker 1: Democrats who responded to my post saying, yeah, I'm very
- 16:57Speaker 1: glad I don't have to watch anymore. Tom Steyer ads
- 17:00Speaker 1: as well. In fact, that's why I didn't vote for him.
- 17:03Speaker 1: And tom Steyer. It appears it's not one hundred percent,
- 17:07Speaker 1: but it's well into the ninety percent tile of percentages
- 17:10Speaker 1: that tom Steyer is not going to make the runoff
- 17:12Speaker 1: and it's going to be Hilton and Beshera, and then
- 17:14Speaker 1: Beshera will win easily so ser but Shera, with no
- 17:19Speaker 1: base of support, not a whole lot of money really
- 17:22Speaker 1: behind him, didn't run a great campaign, doesn't really seem
- 17:26Speaker 1: to care that much, which I'm actually very happy about.
- 17:29Speaker 1: I think for Shera, well, it'll be a terrible governor,
- 17:32Speaker 1: will be far less bad than tom Steyer would have been,
- 17:36Speaker 1: because tom Steyer would have felt like he had to
- 17:39Speaker 1: virtue signal on everything that he is a white man,
- 17:44Speaker 1: a straight man, a rich white man. The fact that
- 17:49Speaker 1: the Democrats might have elected a billionaire, straight white male
- 17:54Speaker 1: with no experience I always thought was freaking hilarious and
- 17:57Speaker 1: seemingly unlikely, and it does not appear is if that's
- 18:00Speaker 1: going to be the case, but Buschero will kick the
- 18:03Speaker 1: crap out of Hilton. The only scenario that could have
- 18:07Speaker 1: possibly happened where Republicans had a chance and it would
- 18:10Speaker 1: be theoretically a certainty to win in November, is if
- 18:15Speaker 1: they had two candidates in the final two. And the
- 18:18Speaker 1: only way that was even theoretically going to happen was
- 18:21Speaker 1: if Donald Trump did not get involved in the race.
- 18:23Speaker 1: So I was right about that that Trump endorsing Hilton
- 18:27Speaker 1: would cause Hilton to go way ahead of Bianco, but
- 18:30Speaker 1: that would eliminate any chance of Bianco getting second place.
- 18:34Speaker 1: Now mathematically it doesn't look like that was ever a
- 18:37Speaker 1: real possibility anyway, because it appears as if Pesherro is
- 18:41Speaker 1: going to be at least in the twenty five to
- 18:42Speaker 1: twenty six point range, and there was no possible way
- 18:46Speaker 1: for two Republicans to beat that. So, as I said
- 18:49Speaker 1: many times, it was only theoretical, but it ended even
- 18:53Speaker 1: the theoretical chance of two Republicans advancing when Donald Trump
- 18:57Speaker 1: got involved in the race. But at least it looks
- 19:00Speaker 1: like we're not going to have Tom Steyer, and to me,
- 19:03Speaker 1: that's something to celebrate, if only for the fact that
- 19:05Speaker 1: we won't have to endure his television commercials for the
- 19:08Speaker 1: next four or five months, assuming things turn out the
- 19:11Speaker 1: way that they currently look like they will. That leads
- 19:14Speaker 1: me to the mayoral race in Los Angeles, which got
- 19:17Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount of publicity. The media loves this story
- 19:22Speaker 1: because Spencer Pratt is a former reality TV show star allegedly,
- 19:29Speaker 1: and he gives off Trump vibes, and you know, he's
- 19:34Speaker 1: done great things on social media, and Macaworld thinks he's
- 19:38Speaker 1: one of theirs, and he's going to pull off a
- 19:40Speaker 1: miracle and win the mayor's race in Los Angeles because
- 19:45Speaker 1: you know, he's exposing the corruption of the democratic establishment
- 19:50Speaker 1: and he's got righteous anger over his home being burned
- 19:53Speaker 1: down in the wildfires a year and a half ago.
- 19:56Speaker 1: And I'm just like, really, people, seriously, we're really going
- 20:01Speaker 1: to do this. I mean, the media loves this narrative.
- 20:03Speaker 1: It gives them something to talk about. It's a story
- 20:06Speaker 1: that people can understand, and it engages both the left
- 20:09Speaker 1: and the right. But I have been very outspoken on
- 20:12Speaker 1: social media, and in two different television appearances on News Nation,
- 20:16Speaker 1: including one earlier this week, where I have out and
- 20:19Speaker 1: out said there is no chance that Spencer Pratt is
- 20:22Speaker 1: going to be the next mayor of Los Angeles unless
- 20:24Speaker 1: he makes the runoff and Karen Bass dies or gets
- 20:28Speaker 1: embroiled in some sort of massive scandal. So it's a
- 20:32Speaker 1: non zero chance. I mean, she could die or you know,
- 20:36Speaker 1: there could be I don't know what the level of
- 20:38Speaker 1: scandal would have to be. It'd have to be pretty
- 20:39Speaker 1: damn large, but at least it's at least theoretically possible
- 20:43Speaker 1: that that could happen. But he's not going to win
- 20:46Speaker 1: by getting fifty percent plus one in the primary election,
- 20:51Speaker 1: which is you could win automatically without a runoff in
- 20:53Speaker 1: Los Angeles in the mayor's race. That was never going
- 20:56Speaker 1: to happen, despite the fact that Pratt essentially predicted that
- 20:59Speaker 1: that would. That was never on the table for Spencer Pratt,
- 21:03Speaker 1: and he's exceedingly unlikely to win a November matchup for
- 21:09Speaker 1: very logical reasons. To me, it's this basic math, basic logic,
- 21:14Speaker 1: and it's amazing to me the pushback and telling to me,
- 21:17Speaker 1: the pushback that I get on social media, and when
- 21:20Speaker 1: I went on News Nation and they had on with
- 21:23Speaker 1: me a conservative female who is a huge fan of
- 21:27Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt and who believes that I'm totally wrong or
- 21:30Speaker 1: being too negative, and I just don't get it. I
- 21:34Speaker 1: really don't get it. And the part of it I
- 21:37Speaker 1: really don't understand is how many people think that this
- 21:40Speaker 1: means that I am trying to sabotage Spencer Pratt's campaign
- 21:44Speaker 1: or I'm against Spencer Pratt or in favor of Karen Pass,
- 21:48Speaker 1: the incumbent mayor, which is just ridiculous. I can't stand
- 21:53Speaker 1: Karen Pass. I would be happy if Spencer Pratt won,
- 21:56Speaker 1: even after my predictions. We would to be a pain
- 21:59Speaker 1: in the ass to have to deal with everyone dunking
- 22:01Speaker 1: lem Me shure or whatever. But I would be thrilled
- 22:04Speaker 1: if somehow we lived in the world where the city
- 22:07Speaker 1: of Los Angeles might elect somebody other than a Karen Bass,
- 22:11Speaker 1: and somebody who at least has some common sense behind them,
- 22:14Speaker 1: even if he has no experience. In Spencer Pratt, I
- 22:17Speaker 1: would be happy about that. I'm in the business of
- 22:21Speaker 1: telling people not what they want to hear, but what
- 22:23Speaker 1: the truth is. That's what this podcast is all about
- 22:26Speaker 1: the truth, be damned, and the truth is Spencer Pratt.
- 22:30Speaker 1: There's no indication whatsoever in any logical or math based
- 22:34Speaker 1: world where he can win. Well. So far, the results
- 22:38Speaker 1: are one thousand percent consistent with my analysis here, because
- 22:43Speaker 1: while it appears at least in perception that Pratt will
- 22:46Speaker 1: make the runoff, just as I predicted that he would
- 22:49Speaker 1: on this podcast and on those two News Nation television appearances,
- 22:55Speaker 1: there is no way to interpret the current results in
- 22:59Speaker 1: a way that we indicate that he has any chance
- 23:01Speaker 1: in November. Now, I want to make something clear, there
- 23:05Speaker 1: is still a school of thought as of this taping
- 23:08Speaker 1: that Spencer Pratt may not make the runoff. He currently
- 23:13Speaker 1: is it like thirty percent, and Bass is it like
- 23:16Speaker 1: thirty five percent, and Raman is at like twenty two percent,
- 23:21Speaker 1: And so it looks on paper as if Pratt is
- 23:23Speaker 1: safe to make the runoff. And frankly, I will be
- 23:26Speaker 1: the first to acknowledge that the incumbent mayor Bass, you know,
- 23:30Speaker 1: lingering around thirty four to thirty five percent at this
- 23:32Speaker 1: point with sixty two percent of the vote counted, is
- 23:35Speaker 1: ridiculously pathetic. I one hundred percent agree with that, but
- 23:41Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because let's say Pratt makes the runoff,
- 23:46Speaker 1: which again is not one hundred percent, because there is
- 23:50Speaker 1: a school of thought, and I can't figure out how
- 23:52Speaker 1: accurate this is. I've been watching the betting markets pretty carefully.
- 23:55Speaker 1: There's there's certainly some betters that believe that Pratt is
- 23:59Speaker 1: going to collapse as these votes continue to get counted,
- 24:03Speaker 1: and that it's possible that Ramen, the essentially the female
- 24:06Speaker 1: Mandani of Los Angeles, the socialist, is going to at
- 24:11Speaker 1: least catch up to him, maybe pass him. My gut
- 24:15Speaker 1: tells me that we're going to see a situation where
- 24:17Speaker 1: it becomes pretty close between Pratt and Ramen, and that
- 24:22Speaker 1: Pratt probably pulls it out. That's my guess. That's purely
- 24:26Speaker 1: a guest because there's so little transparency. They don't even
- 24:30Speaker 1: tell you where the votes have come from, where they
- 24:32Speaker 1: still have to be counted. But my guess is Pratt
- 24:35Speaker 1: does make the runoff. But it's not a certainty. I
- 24:39Speaker 1: want to make that clear. It is certainly it is
- 24:41Speaker 1: still possible that this is the disaster scenario for Pratt
- 24:45Speaker 1: and his supporters. I'm not there yet. I'm not convinced
- 24:49Speaker 1: of that. I believe that is a possibility. I am
- 24:52Speaker 1: not convinced that it is a probability at this point.
- 24:54Speaker 1: But let's just presume that Pratt makes the runoff right
- 24:58Speaker 1: and that the number stay even close to where they
- 25:00Speaker 1: currently are at every point in accounting so far. When
- 25:05Speaker 1: you add up Bass and Ramen, who are basically two
- 25:09Speaker 1: different versions of the same people, They're both women of
- 25:13Speaker 1: color who are extremely liberal. Ramen has perceived as maybe
- 25:16Speaker 1: a little bit more liberal than Bass. Bass is the incumbent.
- 25:19Speaker 1: But when you add up Bass and Ramen at all
- 25:23Speaker 1: points in the balloting, they add up to at least
- 25:26Speaker 1: fifty seven percent of the vote. Fifty seven percent of
- 25:31Speaker 1: the vote. That means, in a remotely logical world, only
- 25:36Speaker 1: forty three percent of the electorate is even open to
- 25:41Speaker 1: voting to us for a Spencer Pratt. And there's plenty
- 25:43Speaker 1: of reasons for why many of that forty three percent
- 25:47Speaker 1: are not going to vote for Spencer Pratt. And I
- 25:49Speaker 1: keep going back to what happened in twenty twenty two.
- 25:52Speaker 1: We already have a blueprint for this electorate. The electorate
- 25:55Speaker 1: in Los Angeles is basically the same with twenty twenty two,
- 25:59Speaker 1: and we had Rick Caruso run against Karen Bass Rick
- 26:02Speaker 1: Caruso with way more money than Spencer Pratt, way more credibility,
- 26:07Speaker 1: way more executive experience. He was a Democrat, former Republican,
- 26:13Speaker 1: but at least plausibly a current Democrat, unlike Pratt who's
- 26:18Speaker 1: claiming to be a Republican and going on Fox News
- 26:21Speaker 1: Channel and not disavowing Donald Trump and having Donald Trump
- 26:24Speaker 1: endorse him again. This goes to the toxicity of Donald Trump.
- 26:28Speaker 1: The fact that Pratt did those things, which to me
- 26:31Speaker 1: is an indication all he really wanted to do was
- 26:33Speaker 1: make the runoff because it would help his career and
- 26:36Speaker 1: his brand, and maybe, you know, he becomes some sort
- 26:39Speaker 1: of a maga like commentator because he has no job.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Before this, he had no house, no job, nothing, And
- 26:47Speaker 1: so now he's got another bite of the celebrity apple
- 26:49Speaker 1: and he wants to be able to use it for
- 26:51Speaker 1: his benefit into the future. And making the runoff, you know,
- 26:54Speaker 1: gives him another four months, five months of free publicity
- 26:57Speaker 1: before he gets his ass kicked. I actually think if
- 27:00Speaker 1: he was trying to win, he would not be going
- 27:03Speaker 1: on Fox News Channel. He would be disavowing Donald trumpet
- 27:07Speaker 1: at every effort. He would not be calling himself a Republican.
- 27:10Speaker 1: But my point here is there's all sorts of advantages
- 27:12Speaker 1: that Rick Caruso had over Spencer Pratt other than having
- 27:17Speaker 1: a national social media presence. But a national social media
- 27:22Speaker 1: presence means nothing in a local city election where the vast,
- 27:27Speaker 1: vast majority of the voters are very liberal and aren't
- 27:32Speaker 1: even open to voting for a Spencer Pratt for a
- 27:36Speaker 1: variety of reasons. And Rick Caruso ended up losing the
- 27:41Speaker 1: general election by ten points after way out performing Spencer
- 27:46Speaker 1: Pratt in the primary. By every standard, Rick Caruso did
- 27:51Speaker 1: better in the primary eight four years ago than Spencer
- 27:55Speaker 1: Pratt has and Caruso still lost the general election by
- 27:59Speaker 1: ten points. And I believe Crusoe looked around even post wildfires,
- 28:05Speaker 1: did the research and decided, you know what, it's not
- 28:09Speaker 1: worth me spending another fifty million or one hundred million
- 28:12Speaker 1: dollars because this is a situation where I'm banging my
- 28:15Speaker 1: head against the wall. It's not a winnable race in
- 28:17Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Now, I disagree with that decision. Actually think
- 28:22Speaker 1: Crusoe might have had a shot, And I think Bass
- 28:24Speaker 1: being so weak in this primary election so far as
- 28:28Speaker 1: an indication that that was the case, but by no
- 28:31Speaker 1: measure is Pratt doing better than Caruso, despite the fact
- 28:36Speaker 1: that Pratt has gotten massive amounts of free publicity. And
- 28:40Speaker 1: by the way, it's not going to get any better
- 28:42Speaker 1: for Pratt going forward. If he makes the run off,
- 28:45Speaker 1: he's going to get attacked. They're going to All they
- 28:47Speaker 1: got to do is show a commercial of him saying
- 28:50Speaker 1: he's a Republican, going on Fox News channel and being
- 28:52Speaker 1: praised by Donald Trump, game set match. It's over in
- 28:57Speaker 1: a city like Los Angeles. It doesn't matter what the
- 29:00Speaker 1: reality is. That's the world in which we live. And
- 29:04Speaker 1: so it's just incredibly frustrating to me because I deal
- 29:08Speaker 1: with these people constantly on social media. I don't know
- 29:10Speaker 1: why I do. It's not good for my blood pressure,
- 29:12Speaker 1: it's not good for my mental health, but it's very telling.
- 29:17Speaker 1: I learn a lot about humanity. I learn a lot
- 29:20Speaker 1: about Maget world. They're terrible at math, they're terrible at logic.
- 29:25Speaker 1: And the results so far are one hundred percent consistent
- 29:29Speaker 1: with my analysis of the Spencer Pratt situation. When it
- 29:33Speaker 1: comes to the Los Angeles mayor's race. And again, I'm
- 29:37Speaker 1: sure we'll have more information on this in the next
- 29:38Speaker 1: episode of the podcast, there is a possibility, I don't
- 29:41Speaker 1: know what number I would put it at. I'd probably
- 29:44Speaker 1: put it at twenty percent, maybe fifteen percent chance that
- 29:48Speaker 1: the race for second place becomes so close that Pratt
- 29:53Speaker 1: may not actually make the runoff in November. Of course,
- 29:57Speaker 1: the Pratt people will then say, Aha, voter fry. It's
- 30:00Speaker 1: voter fraud, because any result that they don't like or
- 30:04Speaker 1: goes against their predictions, it's always a conspiracy in Maga world.
- 30:09Speaker 1: I want to turn now within the realm of politics
- 30:12Speaker 1: to a book that has just been written by Jill Biden,
- 30:15Speaker 1: former First Lady Jill Biden, obviously wife of President Joe Biden.
- 30:20Speaker 1: And this book tour has been really interesting on a
- 30:23Speaker 1: couple of different levels. Obviously, the most attention has been
- 30:27Speaker 1: focused on the debate performance that Joe Biden put on
- 30:31Speaker 1: that was so bad that he was ending up being
- 30:35Speaker 1: forced out of the race three weeks later in the
- 30:37Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election and replaced without a vote being
- 30:40Speaker 1: cast by Vice President Kamala Harris. And there's a couple
- 30:45Speaker 1: of things I want to say about this. The first
- 30:47Speaker 1: is that Jill Biden is delusionly rewriting history, and virtually
- 30:52Speaker 1: everybody with a brain understands this. The headline out of
- 30:56Speaker 1: the book is that she thought, while watching the debate
- 31:00Speaker 1: that Joe Biden was having a stroke. She actually said
- 31:04Speaker 1: that she wondered whether or not he was having a stroke.
- 31:06Speaker 1: She claims she had never seen him like that before
- 31:09Speaker 1: or since. Now the stroke thing makes no sense to
- 31:12Speaker 1: me because under her scenario, she thought he was having
- 31:16Speaker 1: a stroke. She then claims that immediately after the debate,
- 31:20Speaker 1: the doctors checked him out and said he was fine,
- 31:23Speaker 1: and she immediately went to a situation where she was
- 31:27Speaker 1: praising him. Remember those pathetic statements that she made like
- 31:32Speaker 1: he was a child, where you answered all the questions
- 31:36Speaker 1: and you had all the facts, And I mean, to me,
- 31:40Speaker 1: it was almost as bad as the debate itself, where
- 31:44Speaker 1: she was treating her husband as if he was a toddler, almost,
- 31:48Speaker 1: And I think that really resonated. But I've never understood
- 31:52Speaker 1: in all these interviews that Joe Biden is doing about
- 31:55Speaker 1: her book, how she squares this circle. So we went
- 31:59Speaker 1: from stroke to quick doctor's checkup to immediately praising him
- 32:04Speaker 1: on stage, he did several events. I mean, if you
- 32:08Speaker 1: really believed that your husband and had a stroke, right,
- 32:11Speaker 1: wouldn't you get him home immediately, get him to a
- 32:16Speaker 1: real situation, whether it was a hospital or otherwise. He's
- 32:19Speaker 1: president the United States, where he could be given a
- 32:22Speaker 1: thorough checkup. I mean, you can't just look at somebody
- 32:25Speaker 1: I don't believe and say, oh, no, he's perfectly fine
- 32:27Speaker 1: if you really thought he had a stroke. I just
- 32:30Speaker 1: don't believe that. It doesn't make any sense. It also
- 32:33Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense, and this is the only time
- 32:35Speaker 1: she ever saw him like this. But from a media perspective,
- 32:39Speaker 1: I'm struck by two things. Number one is the media
- 32:43Speaker 1: treatment of Jill Biden. Well, it's been respectful, has not
- 32:47Speaker 1: been fawning at all, not by liberal media standards. I mean,
- 32:50Speaker 1: she's going on very very pro Biden media outlets, pro
- 32:56Speaker 1: liberal media outlets, and she's still being treated not with
- 33:01Speaker 1: kid gloves, she's still being treated somewhat harshly. And within
- 33:05Speaker 1: the liberal media, the commentary about her has been rather harsh.
- 33:11Speaker 1: And the reason for that is it's very simple. One.
- 33:14Speaker 1: They're pissed off that they believe that Biden handed the
- 33:18Speaker 1: election to Donald Trump. But in conjunction with that, I
- 33:23Speaker 1: think this goes to the way that our society now works.
- 33:27Speaker 1: It's all about what people perceive you can do for
- 33:30Speaker 1: them in the future, and there is nothing that Jill
- 33:34Speaker 1: Biden or Joe Biden can do for any of these
- 33:39Speaker 1: people in the future, which is why Joe Biden has
- 33:42Speaker 1: raised almost no money a pathetic amount of money for
- 33:45Speaker 1: his presidential library, because there was never a president who
- 33:50Speaker 1: became an ex president in modern history of America who
- 33:53Speaker 1: was older and more impotent literally and figuratively politically than
- 33:57Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Anger over the fact that he ran the
- 34:01Speaker 1: race he shouldn't have run, stayed in too long, created
- 34:04Speaker 1: a situation where Kamal Harris couldn't possibly win, at least
- 34:09Speaker 1: that's the perception among Democrats, causing Donald Trump to get
- 34:12Speaker 1: another term in office. Plus he's in bad health and
- 34:17Speaker 1: he's old and he's going to die soon, so there's
- 34:20Speaker 1: nothing he can do for us, and there's nothing Joe
- 34:23Speaker 1: Biden can do for us. So under those circumstances, they're
- 34:26Speaker 1: not going to treat her with kid gloves. But the
- 34:30Speaker 1: part of this situation that I think is missing, and
- 34:33Speaker 1: I'm really kind of astonished by this, and I don't
- 34:35Speaker 1: have a good explanation for it, and I've tried to
- 34:37Speaker 1: look for it. It's possible I've missed it in the
- 34:40Speaker 1: interviews that she's done. But how is it that there's
- 34:43Speaker 1: been almost zero focus on what is still the most
- 34:47Speaker 1: mysterious and I believe most interesting element of this entire equation,
- 34:52Speaker 1: which is how did Joe Biden go from I'm not
- 34:55Speaker 1: getting out of the race, I'm staying in Well after
- 35:00Speaker 1: the debate disaster, You remember that interview with George Stephanopholis
- 35:05Speaker 1: where and we pinpointed this at the time on this podcast,
- 35:10Speaker 1: where Biden said, you know, I'm not getting out and
- 35:13Speaker 1: I'm not going to be forced out and no one
- 35:15Speaker 1: wants me to get forced out, And George Stebannopolis says
- 35:18Speaker 1: to Joe Biden, are you sure? And it was that
- 35:23Speaker 1: moment I knew, okay, I didn't think Joe Biden would relent.
- 35:28Speaker 1: I was wrong in that part, but I was right
- 35:30Speaker 1: in picking up that there were major forces within the
- 35:33Speaker 1: Democratic Party that had told George Stevenopolis, is obviously as
- 35:36Speaker 1: well connected as a former Clinton advisor as anyone could
- 35:39Speaker 1: possibly be, had already told George Stepanopolis, We're getting rid
- 35:43Speaker 1: of Joe, and he was basically trying to warn Joe Biden,
- 35:47Speaker 1: and Joe Biden didn't seem to get it. He was
- 35:50Speaker 1: either that out of it or that naive, or some
- 35:52Speaker 1: combination thereof, and something happened. Now most of the perceptions
- 36:00Speaker 1: rounds Nancy Pelosi, But who did it and how did
- 36:04Speaker 1: they do it? And that issue, to my knowledge, has
- 36:08Speaker 1: been completely absent when it comes to the analysis of
- 36:12Speaker 1: Joe Biden's book and her interviews that she's done to
- 36:15Speaker 1: promote it. That's what I'm most interested in, How and
- 36:18Speaker 1: why did that happen? And I don't think we're ever
- 36:20Speaker 1: going to get an answer to that. We're never going
- 36:22Speaker 1: to get it from Joe Biden. And by the way,
- 36:24Speaker 1: where is Joe Biden. He's not with her on this
- 36:28Speaker 1: book tour. Why because he's got cancer and apparently very
- 36:31Speaker 1: serious cancer that's gone into his bones, and no one's
- 36:35Speaker 1: happy about that. But I do think that that should
- 36:37Speaker 1: at least be part of the equation that here we
- 36:40Speaker 1: are in, you know, not even the middle yet of
- 36:43Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and Joe Biden was running for an
- 36:47Speaker 1: office where he would be President of the United States
- 36:50Speaker 1: right now, and he's not even capable of even one
- 36:53Speaker 1: time accompanying his wife on a book tour that's almost
- 37:00Speaker 1: entirely about him. Isn't that an incredibly damning indictment of
- 37:05Speaker 1: the entire situation? We're how absurd it was for Joe
- 37:10Speaker 1: Biden to decide to run in twenty twenty four. Now,
- 37:14Speaker 1: nobody can one hundred percent predict what's going to happen
- 37:17Speaker 1: to you physically in a couple of years. But with
- 37:20Speaker 1: Joe Biden's age, this is not a surprise. This is
- 37:25Speaker 1: the way it generally works. And the fact that Joe
- 37:30Speaker 1: Biden is physically incapable, apparently of joining his wife in
- 37:36Speaker 1: any of these interviews when it comes to this subject,
- 37:39Speaker 1: I think is very very telling, and it really just
- 37:42Speaker 1: shows that the core sin here, if you're a Democrat,
- 37:47Speaker 1: was that Joe Biden had no business running for reelection
- 37:51Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. But no one had the balls,
- 37:54Speaker 1: including Jill Biden, who clearly wanted to be first Lady
- 37:57Speaker 1: still to tell him, Joe, you can't do this. For
- 38:01Speaker 1: the good of the country, for the good of the party,
- 38:03Speaker 1: you can't do this. Nobody had the balls, and they
- 38:07Speaker 1: paid a very very stiff price for it. But we're
- 38:10Speaker 1: never going to get to the bottom of what those
- 38:12Speaker 1: decisions were made, and specifically how or why Joe Biden
- 38:16Speaker 1: was forced out of the race. And I find that
- 38:19Speaker 1: to be amazing and an indication of just how totally
- 38:21Speaker 1: broken the news media is, because even when the news
- 38:25Speaker 1: media is willing to go after somebody because they can't
- 38:27Speaker 1: do anything for them in the future, in this case
- 38:30Speaker 1: Joe Biden, they're still incapable of getting to the bottom
- 38:33Speaker 1: of the story. And this goes to something I constantly
- 38:37Speaker 1: talk about in the news. The bigger the story, the
- 38:40Speaker 1: more likely it is that we're never going to know
- 38:42Speaker 1: what really happened. And you can't get a bigger political
- 38:46Speaker 1: story than a sitting president after saying he's not getting
- 38:51Speaker 1: out of the race after the first presidential debate, suddenly
- 38:54Speaker 1: deciding on a weekend, Hey, I'm out, and we'll never
- 38:59Speaker 1: really know for sure how or why that happened. That
- 39:02Speaker 1: to me is absolutely remarkable. Speaking of liberal media outlets
- 39:07Speaker 1: and those that had a major impact on what happened
- 39:10Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty four election. For other reasons, there
- 39:13Speaker 1: has been a lot of news surrounding CBS's sixty minutes
- 39:17Speaker 1: in the last couple of days, almost a literal meltdown
- 39:22Speaker 1: internally that has resulted in the firing of Scott Pelly,
- 39:27Speaker 1: former CBS Evening News anchor, the face of sixty minutes
- 39:32Speaker 1: for quite a while, the guy who clearly felt as
- 39:36Speaker 1: if it was his moral obligation to carry the flag
- 39:41Speaker 1: for what he perceives to be the tradition of sixty
- 39:46Speaker 1: minutes journalism. And this new guard, led by Barry Weiss,
- 39:50Speaker 1: who we've talked a lot about on this podcast, who
- 39:52Speaker 1: is now the head of CBS News, and the person
- 39:56Speaker 1: that she has brought in to essentially oversee sixty and
- 40:00Speaker 1: it's a guy by the name of Nick Bilton who's
- 40:02Speaker 1: more of a technology guy. And this all came to
- 40:06Speaker 1: a head when there were several firings about a week
- 40:09Speaker 1: or so ago at sixty minutes that Scott Pelly and
- 40:13Speaker 1: a lot of the staff there strongly disagreed with. This
- 40:17Speaker 1: was done essentially by Barry Weiss, and there was then
- 40:20Speaker 1: a team meeting to deal with the dissension within the
- 40:24Speaker 1: ranks at sixty minutes, and Scott Pelly, I believe went
- 40:30Speaker 1: on a suicide mission. He either lost his mind or
- 40:33Speaker 1: this is a concerted effort to die on this hill
- 40:38Speaker 1: in the waning moments of his career, that he's made
- 40:42Speaker 1: enough money. He knows that future is bleak, and he
- 40:46Speaker 1: can't stand what he believes is happening to sixty Minutes,
- 40:49Speaker 1: and he's going to go out in a blaze of
- 40:51Speaker 1: glory and sacrifice himself for the team. I don't know
- 40:56Speaker 1: for sure which happened. Maybe it's a combination thereof Maybe
- 40:59Speaker 1: he overestimated his value, maybe he committed suicide from a
- 41:04Speaker 1: career perspective, But this meeting was extraordinary by all accounts.
- 41:09Speaker 1: This was if the reports of the net Yahoo Trump
- 41:14Speaker 1: phone call are accurate, this is maybe more dramatic and
- 41:19Speaker 1: crazy than that was. Because here we're dealing with a
- 41:22Speaker 1: situation where people have very high degrees of job in security.
- 41:28Speaker 1: To begin with, they just saw that several of their colleagues,
- 41:32Speaker 1: high profile colleagues, got fired. They know that the industry
- 41:36Speaker 1: in general is in grave, grave jeopardy. Yes, sixty Minutes
- 41:40Speaker 1: still has a lot of prestige. Yes it still makes
- 41:43Speaker 1: a lot of money. You know, it has a sterling
- 41:46Speaker 1: reputation among liberals, although conservatives no longer trust it. For
- 41:50Speaker 1: good reason, and despite that environment, Scott Pelly went on
- 41:55Speaker 1: the war path against his bosses, apparently being so imported
- 42:00Speaker 1: by much of the staff. Now, this was such a
- 42:03Speaker 1: remarkable meeting and got leaked to the press, apparently by
- 42:08Speaker 1: Pelly himself and maybe by others who were there, in
- 42:13Speaker 1: such a remarkable fashion that even other news outlets reported
- 42:18Speaker 1: on the confrontation in this meeting, including NBC News, And
- 42:24Speaker 1: I thought that was probably the best way to provide
- 42:28Speaker 1: you with some context for what happened in this very
- 42:30Speaker 1: contentious meeting by playing a clip from NBC News and
- 42:35Speaker 1: their coverage of this meeting that happened among CBS sixty
- 42:40Speaker 1: Minutes staff and sixty Minutes CBS management.
- 42:45Speaker 2: Veteran correspondent Scott Pelly blasting CBS News leadership in a
- 42:49Speaker 2: fiery meeting Monday, accusing editor in chief Barry Wise of
- 42:53Speaker 2: murdering the revered show. According to a source in the
- 42:55Speaker 2: room and an audio recording obtained by NBC News, the
- 42:59Speaker 2: tense excha came during a staff meeting with the brand
- 43:02Speaker 2: new sixty Minutes executive producer, technology journalist and documentary maker
- 43:06Speaker 2: Nick Bilton, who was tapped by Weiss's last week despite
- 43:10Speaker 2: never having worked in traditional broadcast news, and Monday's meeting
- 43:14Speaker 2: built in warrenstaff that broadcast is an ice cube that
- 43:17Speaker 2: is melting and the show must adapt, but added that
- 43:21Speaker 2: weiss loved sixty minutes. According to the recording. At that
- 43:24Speaker 2: Pelly interrupted, saying firmly, she does not love this place.
- 43:27Speaker 2: She was brought in to kill it and she's been
- 43:30Speaker 2: doing exactly that, adding she has no qualifications for her job,
- 43:34Speaker 2: and telling his new boss directly, you have slender qualifications
- 43:38Speaker 2: for this job.
- 43:39Speaker 1: Now, I don't care what line of work you're in.
- 43:41Speaker 1: That is a remarkable meeting between employers or bosses and employees,
- 43:49Speaker 1: particularly in the news media, particularly for the reasons I've
- 43:52Speaker 1: already stated, because this is not a world where people
- 43:56Speaker 1: at sixty minutes have a lot of job security. There
- 44:00Speaker 1: was a time back in the heyday of sixty minutes,
- 44:03Speaker 1: like the seventies of the eighties, where sixty minutes would
- 44:07Speaker 1: have been untouchable. And you know what, the management would
- 44:10Speaker 1: have been afraid to go into a meeting like this.
- 44:14Speaker 1: And if you know, somebody from the good old days,
- 44:18Speaker 1: Mike Wallace or whatever, had said go fuck yourselves, the
- 44:22Speaker 1: management probably would have run away, but they probably would
- 44:25Speaker 1: have been too afraid to even have the meeting to
- 44:27Speaker 1: begin with. So just the fact that there was this
- 44:29Speaker 1: meeting is an indication that management is no longer afraid
- 44:34Speaker 1: of the staff at sixty minutes. But we're long past
- 44:37Speaker 1: that world. We're long past that world from the standpoint
- 44:40Speaker 1: of the power of news personalities, the power of individual
- 44:45Speaker 1: news outlets, the job security, and also the public credibility,
- 44:51Speaker 1: because I don't want to make I want to make
- 44:53Speaker 1: sure we don't lose that part of this equation. The
- 44:55Speaker 1: Scott Pellis of the world effectively reaped what they sowed.
- 45:00Speaker 1: They lost half the country or thereabouts because of lack
- 45:04Speaker 1: of trust. So when you lose the trust of the country,
- 45:09Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're more vulnerable. Yes, you still do occasionally
- 45:14Speaker 1: great work, and I recently praised some of the things
- 45:17Speaker 1: that Scott Pelley has done on sixty Minutes. His interview
- 45:22Speaker 1: with Ben Sass, who is a former Republican senator from
- 45:25Speaker 1: Nebraska who appears to be close to death, was a
- 45:29Speaker 1: remarkable piece of journalism. Of course, there's nothing that liberal
- 45:33Speaker 1: media outlets like more than a dying Republican. But the
- 45:36Speaker 1: point is, I like some of the things that sixty
- 45:39Speaker 1: minutes does. I want sixty minutes to be healthy. We
- 45:42Speaker 1: were a better country when people were afraid of screwing
- 45:46Speaker 1: up because if they went on sixty minutes, they knew
- 45:48Speaker 1: they were toast. Because that's the way it was in
- 45:50Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. If sixty minutes went after you, you
- 45:54Speaker 1: were done, you were cooked. But that's no longer the
- 45:57Speaker 1: case now because even though it's incredibly post popular show
- 46:00Speaker 1: in comparison to other television shows in this era, the
- 46:03Speaker 1: audience is nothing in comparison to what it used to be.
- 46:06Speaker 1: The credibility is nothing like what it used to be,
- 46:09Speaker 1: especially in conservative circles, and that's because they overplayed their
- 46:13Speaker 1: hand like liberals always do. And Scott Pelly himself, I
- 46:18Speaker 1: agree with those who say he's a pompous ass. I
- 46:21Speaker 1: mean he loves himself from Scott Pelly. He really does.
- 46:24Speaker 1: Scott Pelly loves himself some Scott Pelly. That doesn't mean
- 46:28Speaker 1: he's not at times a good journalist or better than normal,
- 46:32Speaker 1: or at least seems to care about the things that
- 46:33Speaker 1: I care about when it comes to journalistic integrity. However,
- 46:38Speaker 1: there's a showboting element of this, and that's why I'm
- 46:41Speaker 1: very suspicious that what Scott Pelly did here was effectively
- 46:45Speaker 1: career suicide because they ended up having another meeting between
- 46:50Speaker 1: management and Scott Pelly the next day because management didn't
- 46:54Speaker 1: want this to end this way. I don't think. I mean,
- 46:57Speaker 1: Barry Weiss is already under siege. She's already perceived as
- 47:00Speaker 1: a right wing wacko of what she's doing with the
- 47:03Speaker 1: CBS Evening News with Tony Dikoppol is not working from
- 47:07Speaker 1: a ratings perspective, even though I like Tony a lot,
- 47:11Speaker 1: and I predicted it would not work from a ratings
- 47:13Speaker 1: perspective because it can't work. You can't try to go
- 47:17Speaker 1: down the middle anymore. Because your audience that you used
- 47:21Speaker 1: to have was liberal. They're gonna perceive that you're becoming
- 47:24Speaker 1: right wingers, especially when all these liberal outlets are telling
- 47:28Speaker 1: them that Stephen Colbert got fired because Donald Trump ordered
- 47:31Speaker 1: Paramount to do that, and Paramount is your parent company.
- 47:35Speaker 1: So they're in a no win situation. They're gonna lose
- 47:39Speaker 1: what audience they have, will not gaining anything because conservatives
- 47:43Speaker 1: have no trust for CBS yet or any mainstream outlet.
- 47:48Speaker 1: They've been trained that the only people they should trust
- 47:51Speaker 1: is Fox News Channel and conservative independent media. So you're
- 47:56Speaker 1: not going to gain anybody in the ratings, at least
- 47:59Speaker 1: not in the short run. And that's what's happened with
- 48:02Speaker 1: the CBS Evening News. And I'm sure that Barry Weiss
- 48:04Speaker 1: didn't want this. And my guess is that what happened
- 48:08Speaker 1: here is a combination of Scott Pelly overplaying his hand,
- 48:13Speaker 1: believing that Barry Weiss would be so hesitant to get
- 48:17Speaker 1: rid of him after having already gotten rid of other
- 48:21Speaker 1: people at sixty minutes, knowing the perception that she's some
- 48:25Speaker 1: sort of right winger picked by paramount to do Donald
- 48:28Speaker 1: Trump's bidding, which is ridiculous. I mean, she's married to
- 48:32Speaker 1: a wobit and she doesn't even believe in the Second Amendment.
- 48:34Speaker 1: This is the right winger. I mean so, But the
- 48:38Speaker 1: reality is I think that Scott Pelly, probably like all
- 48:41Speaker 1: liberals do, overplayed his hand because he's got a massive ego.
- 48:45Speaker 1: But I also think because I don't think he's dumb,
- 48:48Speaker 1: and in judging the way he handled this, where even
- 48:52Speaker 1: when he got the meeting, he apparently still said go
- 48:55Speaker 1: fuck yourself, that he wanted this, that at some level
- 48:59Speaker 1: he committing career suicide. He wanted this to be the
- 49:03Speaker 1: hill he was going to die on he wants to
- 49:05Speaker 1: be seen as the guy who died for journalism, that's
- 49:09Speaker 1: my guess. And that's not the full story of what
- 49:13Speaker 1: transpired here. It's a very complicated tale. I believe I've
- 49:17Speaker 1: already outlined a lot of it. But this isn't going
- 49:21Speaker 1: to help CBS or sixty Minutes anyway, shape or form,
- 49:24Speaker 1: because what happens from here, I really don't know what
- 49:28Speaker 1: CBS's plan is. I think this is bad for Barry Weiss,
- 49:32Speaker 1: and maybe that was part of what Scott Pelly's motivation
- 49:36Speaker 1: was here. Maybe he thought, Okay, I'm going to jump
- 49:39Speaker 1: on this hand grenade and it's going to cause the
- 49:43Speaker 1: end of Barry Weiss. I actually think it was a
- 49:46Speaker 1: dumb move on Scott Pelly's part unless he wanted to retire,
- 49:50Speaker 1: unless he really wanted to be fired, because he could
- 49:52Speaker 1: do a hell of a lot more good by being
- 49:56Speaker 1: the voice that stood up against what he perceives to
- 49:59Speaker 1: be rightly or wrongly, this intrusion on sixty minutes journalism
- 50:06Speaker 1: and still have a lot more influence and provide the
- 50:09Speaker 1: institutional memory of what sixty minutes has been, which is
- 50:13Speaker 1: fast going away. I mean, you know, sixty minutes was
- 50:18Speaker 1: glacial in its change of personnel over the years, and
- 50:21Speaker 1: that created a situation where you had institutional memory. Well
- 50:25Speaker 1: that's almost all God Anderson Cooper recently left. Well, Scott
- 50:31Speaker 1: Pelly was basically it, And if you really cared about
- 50:34Speaker 1: the institution, he would have stuck around so that he
- 50:37Speaker 1: could be the voice that pushes back to a degree
- 50:40Speaker 1: without getting fired, and be that source of institutional memory
- 50:46Speaker 1: to where the outlet that you claim to love doesn't
- 50:50Speaker 1: become something and completely different than what it was that
- 50:54Speaker 1: made it great in the first place. So I don't
- 50:56Speaker 1: agree with the way Pelly handled this. And I'm someone
- 50:59Speaker 1: who's been fired many times partially in situation. I've been
- 51:02Speaker 1: in situations where whether consciously or subconsciously, I triggered my
- 51:06Speaker 1: own firing. I'm well aware of this, so I feel
- 51:09Speaker 1: like I'm a bit of an expert on this situation.
- 51:11Speaker 1: Two things can be true at the same time. He
- 51:14Speaker 1: can be a little bit right, he can be a
- 51:17Speaker 1: little bit wrong. He can maybe partially be committing career suicide.
- 51:21Speaker 1: He maybe wants to be dying on this hill. But
- 51:24Speaker 1: I've never been in a situation nearly as powerful as
- 51:27Speaker 1: Scott Pelley, and if I was, especially at this point
- 51:30Speaker 1: in my life, when I'm a little bit more mature,
- 51:32Speaker 1: less immature, and look at the big picture a bit better,
- 51:36Speaker 1: I think than I did when I was younger, I
- 51:39Speaker 1: would have probably stuck it out. I would have pushed back,
- 51:42Speaker 1: but not to the point where I ended up getting fired.
- 51:44Speaker 1: Because at this point, this is a disaster. I mean,
- 51:49Speaker 1: when you lose the people they lost last week, and
- 51:53Speaker 1: then you lose Scott Pelly and Anderson Cooper, as I've
- 51:55Speaker 1: already said, has gone that audience is an old audience
- 51:59Speaker 1: and they're I think gonna have a big problem with this.
- 52:03Speaker 1: You're gonna lose a significant portion of your audience, at
- 52:07Speaker 1: least their trust. They're gonna be far more skeptical. And
- 52:10Speaker 1: this is going to create a perception within CBS that
- 52:13Speaker 1: everything they've been told within CBS News, everything they've been
- 52:17Speaker 1: told about Barry Weiss, is true. So I think this
- 52:20Speaker 1: may end up sowing the seeds for Barry Weiss's destruction,
- 52:23Speaker 1: especially as they decide, Okay, who's gonna lead CBS and
- 52:28Speaker 1: CNN together. I don't think that's gonna be Barry Weiss.
- 52:31Speaker 1: If the merger eventually goes through between Paramount and Warner Discovery.
- 52:37Speaker 1: So I don't know who the winners are here. I
- 52:39Speaker 1: don't think Scott Pelly wins. I don't think Barry Weiss wins.
- 52:42Speaker 1: I don't think sixty Minutes wins. I don't think CBS
- 52:45Speaker 1: News wins. I think everybody's a loser here, except for
- 52:49Speaker 1: maybe the mag of people who love seeing their enemies
- 52:53Speaker 1: destroy themselves. And I can understand that, but I'm always
- 52:57Speaker 1: more conflicted in this the destruction of the liberal media. Yes,
- 53:02Speaker 1: I get that there's some joy to take in that
- 53:04Speaker 1: as a conservative who has been railing against liberal media
- 53:08Speaker 1: bias for many decades. But this is a bigger problem.
- 53:13Speaker 1: Sixty minutes in its heyday, performed an important function and
- 53:18Speaker 1: now that's gone, and journalism suffers because of it, and
- 53:24Speaker 1: we're seeing that everywhere. That's why we do the Depth
- 53:27Speaker 1: of Journalism podcast every week. The journalism is just completely dead,
- 53:33Speaker 1: even at the highest levels like a sixty minutes. So
- 53:37Speaker 1: if it can't survive at sixty minutes, how could it
- 53:39Speaker 1: possibly survive at lower level outlets? And I wanted to
- 53:44Speaker 1: provide a really remarkable example of this that happened in Atlanta, Georgia.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Now this story has not gotten nearly, in my opinion,
- 53:54Speaker 1: enough attention, not because of the reasons I'm going to
- 53:57Speaker 1: talk about it. It's because of the stature of the
- 53:59Speaker 1: story self. But what essentially has happened is that a
- 54:03Speaker 1: federal judge, it turns out this is an Obama appointee,
- 54:07Speaker 1: although they're not going to tell you this in the
- 54:09Speaker 1: story I'm about to play for you, a a federal
- 54:13Speaker 1: judge has been caught having a multi year extramarital affair
- 54:18Speaker 1: about which she lied with apparently a police officer that
- 54:24Speaker 1: includes trists within her office during working hours, and and
- 54:33Speaker 1: and all that happened is that she's been reprimanded. Now,
- 54:37Speaker 1: the reason I'm going to play this clip from the
- 54:40Speaker 1: Fox affiliate in Atlanta, Okay, this is this is an
- 54:45Speaker 1: Atlanta based judge. The reason I'm going to play this
- 54:48Speaker 1: Fox clip is I want you to think about what
- 54:52Speaker 1: the most important detail is in a story like this.
- 54:57Speaker 1: I mean, it's such an important detail that you might
- 55:00Speaker 1: may not even think about it because it would be
- 55:02Speaker 1: so obvious that it would be part of any story
- 55:05Speaker 1: that involved a subject like this. What I'm referring to
- 55:10Speaker 1: is the name of the judge, The name of the judge, right,
- 55:17Speaker 1: the name of the judge would be the most important
- 55:20Speaker 1: detail in a story like this, especially when if you
- 55:24Speaker 1: listen carefully to the clip I'm about the play. This
- 55:27Speaker 1: is from an actual broadcast from the Fox affiliate in Atlanta, Georgia,
- 55:31Speaker 1: where they claim that the reporter is going to provide
- 55:34Speaker 1: them with quote, all the details on the story, all
- 55:41Speaker 1: the details. That's a direct quote from the newscast, except
- 55:46Speaker 1: they never tell you the most important detail, who is
- 55:51Speaker 1: the judge? What is her name? And in case you
- 55:56Speaker 1: don't believe me, here's one of multiple stories I could play,
- 56:00Speaker 1: multiple stories that I have from this Fox affiliate in Atlanta,
- 56:03Speaker 1: where they refused to tell you the name of the
- 56:07Speaker 1: federal judge being accused of lying and obvious impropriety and
- 56:13Speaker 1: is not apparently going to be removed from her position,
- 56:17Speaker 1: has only received essentially a reprimand, but they refused to
- 56:20Speaker 1: provide her name in a news story. And here's one
- 56:25Speaker 1: example of that. Remarkable medium malpractice and a police.
- 56:30Speaker 3: Are looking at allegations that one of their officers had
- 56:33Speaker 3: sex with an Atlanta Federal District Court judge in her chamber. Yeah,
- 56:36Speaker 3: the Judicial Council reprimanded the judge. This was back in February,
- 56:40Speaker 3: and last week a committee affirmed the order. Good Day's
- 56:43Speaker 3: Lendsay Tuman is live outside the Federal courthouse. She joints
- 56:45Speaker 3: now with all the details lensy, good morning, good.
- 56:49Speaker 4: Morning to you, Buck and Natalie, and that judge does
- 56:51Speaker 4: remain on the bench. According to a report, she initially
- 56:54Speaker 4: denied those allegations, but later admitted to what happened. So,
- 56:59Speaker 4: according to the Associated Press, this judge had an extramarital
- 57:03Speaker 4: affair with a high ranking Atlanta police officer. The pair
- 57:06Speaker 4: reportedly had sets in the judge's chambers. Long clerks reported
- 57:10Speaker 4: overhearing multiple encounters, and security footage and lawns also confirmed
- 57:14Speaker 4: the officer frequently visited the judges chambers in uniform around lunch.
- 57:18Speaker 4: While the judge first denied the allegations, calling them outrageous,
- 57:22Speaker 4: she later recanted and admitted to what happened, and a
- 57:24Speaker 4: committee issued a private reprimand of the judge, which included
- 57:27Speaker 4: writing apology letters. The committee also said she was unlikely
- 57:31Speaker 4: to do this again and noted her otherwise exemplary service
- 57:34Speaker 4: to the court. Now the federal judge that appointment is
- 57:37Speaker 4: a lifetime appointment, so The only way that she would
- 57:40Speaker 4: be removed from the position is if she was impeached
- 57:42Speaker 4: by Congress. No word on if that would actually happen.
- 57:46Speaker 4: In the meantime, Atlanta Police says it's investigating whether or
- 57:49Speaker 4: not that officer in question is an employee of the
- 57:52Speaker 4: Atlanta Police Department. We'll keep you updated on that as well.
- 57:55Speaker 4: Reporting live in downtown. I'm Lindsay Tuman for Good Day Atlanta.
- 57:58Speaker 3: We really appreciate it when thank you.
- 58:01Speaker 1: Now. When I saw that, I'm like, is this a parody?
- 58:05Speaker 1: I had excited to check to make sure this was
- 58:07Speaker 1: a real news story. How do you do a news
- 58:11Speaker 1: story and not say the name of the judge? And
- 58:17Speaker 1: then I thought, okay, is there some ambiguity about who
- 58:22Speaker 1: she is? So I went and researched other news outlets. Nope,
- 58:28Speaker 1: there appears to be no other no ambiguity because other
- 58:30Speaker 1: news outlets were actually reporting her name Eleanor Ross. Eleanor
- 58:37Speaker 1: Ross was the woman's name, and Obama in point D
- 58:42Speaker 1: And yes, you're probably already presuming this at this point.
- 58:46Speaker 1: She's a black woman. Now is that relevant to this?
- 58:53Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it's very relevant. I
- 58:56Speaker 1: think it's the only rational explanation for how in the
- 59:00Speaker 1: world you could possibly with a straight face, claim that
- 59:03Speaker 1: you're going to provide all the details on this story
- 59:06Speaker 1: and not provide the name. There's no ambiguity as to
- 59:12Speaker 1: who the person was. By the way, in the online version,
- 59:15Speaker 1: I should point out of the Fox Atlanta story, they
- 59:20Speaker 1: actually reference that they know the name, but they are
- 59:23Speaker 1: deciding to withhold it without any explanation for why they're
- 59:27Speaker 1: withholding it. And I'm not being able to find any
- 59:30Speaker 1: reason for why they would unless they just don't like
- 59:36Speaker 1: the optics of the story. A black female judge having
- 59:40Speaker 1: sex with some sort of law enforcement official in her
- 59:44Speaker 1: chambers for multiple years and then lying about it. To me,
- 59:50Speaker 1: this is the only explanation that makes any sense. Is
- 59:52Speaker 1: the soft bigotry of low expectations that we can't we
- 59:56Speaker 1: can't do this to a black female judge. Now, if
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: there's some other explanation, I would love to hear it.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: I've asked Chad Gpt and Grock for possible explanations, and
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: I did not get a remotely satisfactory explanation. And I've
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: researched this as much as I possibly get. But to me,
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: this was a classic example of where if the judge
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: was white and hot, I can assure you there would
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: be no hesitation about showing her picture and also providing
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: her name. But that's the world of which we live,
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: and I mean, that's as bad a journalism as you
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: can get. The most basic part of any story, the
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: key detail, especially when you're going to claim to provide
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: all the details, is what's the name of the person
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: who has acknowledged this isn't even an allegation, has acknowledged
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: the wrong doing in a rather salacious way. But we're
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: just going to move on because without even telling you
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: that this happens to be a black female, because that's
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: just not a narrative that we like very much. Thanks
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