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55KRC Wednesday POST Election aftermath show · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 505. The 55KRC. The Talk Station. How about just Wednesday?
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that he was a vacation.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're f * * * ed.
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  Speaker 1: That pretty much sums it up, Joe. In fact, I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the soundbite I was thinking about. So it's Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Not necessarily happy Wednesday. I guess it depends on your
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  Speaker 1: political perspective. But, yeah, the shellacking that was predicted in
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  Speaker 1: the polls that none of us believed in actually came true.
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  Speaker 1: Senate 54-44 for the Senate now. Seven-seat pickup by the Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, that means seven-seat loss by the Republicans. And
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  Speaker 1: then pivoting over to the House. It varies depending on
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  Speaker 1: where you're looking. I guess some of them are too
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  Speaker 1: close to call. Most of them have been called, though.
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  Speaker 1: The Democrats picked up 30 seats. It's now 241 to 149,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, is the number here. So we're looking at
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  Speaker 1: a lame duck session here. Donald Trump has the veto pen.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty much all you can hang your hat on.
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump said, vote like I'm on the ballot. And
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  Speaker 1: by all accounts, political pundits and prognosticators all saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everybody voted like Donald Trump is on the ballot. Ignoring
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  Speaker 1: the good that he has done in favor of saying, Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: the price of gasoline is $ 5 plus and diesel is
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  Speaker 1: north of $ 6. And I'm angry and mad and evil
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  Speaker 1: orange man. And therefore, this is what we get. So
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be an interesting couple of years ahead
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  Speaker 1: of us. Not sure it's going to be anything less
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  Speaker 1: than a really bumpy ride. If you've got a comment,
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you. I'm kind of struggling
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  Speaker 1: this morning to deal with the realities of what I'm facing. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is what we have to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: and we'll just regroup, live, thrive, and survive, and hopefully
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats will drop the ball. They're going to have
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  Speaker 1: some serious regrouping to do. You know, there are still
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  Speaker 1: this massive party division within the Democrats, and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: call it a silver lining in all this. They've got
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  Speaker 1: a mess on their hands, and we'll see what they
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  Speaker 1: can do over the next couple of years. Are they
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  Speaker 1: going to push further left? Yes, Abdul El-Sayed won the
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  Speaker 1: Senate seat in Michigan. I mean, I just struggle to
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  Speaker 1: understand how that can possibly be, but then again... Governor
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  Speaker 1: Amy Acton. Yeah. Okay. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT &
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  Speaker 1: T phones. Let's just kind of pivot over to focus
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  Speaker 1: on Ohio here, and why not? We'll have lots and
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  Speaker 1: lots of races to go through individually, but what do
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  Speaker 1: we got? Governor Amy Acton. Okay, I'm going to have
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  Speaker 1: a tough time with that one the next several years.
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  Speaker 1: Sherrod Brown did win best of John Husted. Interesting race,
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  Speaker 1: that one. It was 49.7 to 45.5 for Husted. But
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the Gregory Lee who ran as
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  Speaker 1: an independent, got 2% of the vote. William Redpath, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you got the campaign literature circulated by the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: for William Redpath running as a libertarian, got 2.8%. And
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  Speaker 1: you add those together, you end up with 4.8%, which would,
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  Speaker 1: if those candidates weren't there, means John Huston would have won.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, unless the folks that voted for Levy and
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  Speaker 1: Redpath said, well, no, I'm going to vote for Sherrod Brown. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: just fun fact there. Greg Lansman bested Eric Conroy, 54-4
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  Speaker 1: to 42-9. uh warren davidson god bless warren davidson he
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  Speaker 1: did win 52-1 to 47-9 oh bested vanessa enoch i
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  Speaker 1: think it's like the 12th time he's run against her
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  Speaker 1: or democrats have ran her again i'm kidding on that
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  Speaker 1: of course uh yeah the acton vivek ramaswamy race 51.7
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  Speaker 1: to 45 with the um kissick campaign libertarian campaign getting
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  Speaker 1: only 3.3 which means even if all those voters wanted
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  Speaker 1: a ramaswamy Amy Acton still would have won. Amy Lockdown Acton.
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  Speaker 1: Amy incapable of speaking without screwing up Acton. Great. This
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  Speaker 1: is going to be wonderful soundbites, providing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: entertainment for Republicans, but also a lot of embarrassment for
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  Speaker 1: the residents of the state of Ohio. Keith Faber won
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  Speaker 1: for Attorney General. Besting Kulowitz, Auditor of State. Frank LaRose won.
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  Speaker 1: Allison Russo is now Secretary, or will be Secretary of State,
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  Speaker 1: beating Sprague 49-6 to 47-5. Jay Edwards, Republican, bested Seth
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  Speaker 1: Walsh 50.1 to 49.9. If you don't think your vote matters,
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  Speaker 1: there's a squeaker and a half right there. Democrat Marilyn
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  Speaker 1: Zias on the Supreme Court. Jennifer Brunner, Democrat, Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Haynes bested Kara Jacob, though, for the state senator
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  Speaker 1: of District 7. Got a whole bunch of other races
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  Speaker 1: we can talk about, but I do want to pivot
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  Speaker 1: over to the phones. Got a couple of callers online
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  Speaker 1: that want to talk about this. Let's start with Kirk. Kirk,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the morning show.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I wish I could say it was a good morning,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm telling you, I know that when I called
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  Speaker 4: in when Thomas Massey lost his primary, I made the
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  Speaker 4: comment that Republicans are probably going to stay home and
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  Speaker 4: stick their middle finger up at Donald Trump. And that's
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  Speaker 4: exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right.
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  Speaker 4: People were really kicked off that a lot of good
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  Speaker 4: Republicans were kicked out of office. And now we're stuck
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  Speaker 4: with this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Ed Gowring did win. I don't know what that
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  Speaker 1: ultimately means because he kind of played a bunker campaign
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  Speaker 1: for what I could tell anyway. It wasn't falling too closely,
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  Speaker 1: but Trump's guy, Ed Gowring, did win. Anyway.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: The good news is we got rid of a lot
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  Speaker 4: of rhinos because a lot of rhinos that thought they
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  Speaker 4: were safe are now going to be sitting at home
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  Speaker 4: in January going, what in the world happened?
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  Speaker 1: You may be right. And, well, Donald Trump's out of
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  Speaker 1: the equation now. They're going to have to run on
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  Speaker 1: their own. Democrats, I don't know what they're going to
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  Speaker 1: run on, honestly. And if someone could come up with
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  Speaker 1: a platform— They have just run on evil orange men.
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  Speaker 1: That's my way of summarizing it. You can like it
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  Speaker 1: or hate it, but obviously the anti-Trump sentiment was in there.
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  Speaker 1: The war did not help Trump and IOTA, and that
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  Speaker 1: kind of carried over to all these other races. Everyone's
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  Speaker 1: sort of agreeing on that.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So the war will end by the end of the year.
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  Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 1: You're optimistic.
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  Speaker 4: And then it's going to be nothing but two years
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  Speaker 4: of impeachments and inquiries and investigations.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 4: And like you said, the Democrats aren't going to do
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  Speaker 4: anything because they want high gas prices. So if you
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  Speaker 4: think they're going to fix anything, think again.
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  Speaker 1: You are right, my friend. And yes, lawyer up they will.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, they're already talking about that. Representative Robert Garcia
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  Speaker 1: at California did say, just specifically posted on the next,
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  Speaker 1: lawyer up. Ron Wyden also chiming in. He texted one
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  Speaker 1: single word in his post, subpoenas. I mean, just... Representative
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  Speaker 1: Dealer Ramirez out of Illinois, Nome, Mark Wayne, Miller, Homan, Bovino,
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  Speaker 1: what's up? Clear your schedule. They're coming for everybody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be gridlock. Democrats will try to pass
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  Speaker 1: something by way of legislation, and Donald Trump will veto it.
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  Speaker 1: There's not enough to override a presidential veto, so we're
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  Speaker 1: going to have certainly legislative gridlock, and maybe we should
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  Speaker 1: all rejoice over that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I do have one question, though. Do they have enough, though,
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  Speaker 4: to make D.C. and Puerto Rico and Guam a state?
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  Speaker 4: Because if that's the case, we're in deep, deep caca.
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  Speaker 1: Well, my popcorn is out on those. Those have been
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  Speaker 1: topics that have been circulating politically for decades. Maybe this
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  Speaker 1: is it. Yeah, Joe just chimed in, too. We lost Texas.
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  Speaker 1: If Texas goes blue, I think, yeah, the NFCC noncompliant
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  Speaker 1: word sticks in. It reminds me of the soundbite. Joe
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  Speaker 1: played at the outset of the program this morning. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: lots of races to go through. Kirk, I appreciate it, man.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what Jeff's got this morning. Jeff, thanks for calling. And, well, Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, just Wednesday.
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  Speaker 9: Sad day for us Republicans, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Well, America.
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  Speaker 10: Correct.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, we might just have to pack up and move
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  Speaker 9: north of the border, live with Randy Quaid.
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  Speaker 1: You got to go to Canada?
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  Speaker 8: I'm joking.
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  Speaker 1: I would hope so. It's not going to get better
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  Speaker 1: going to Canada. Besides, you're going to get on their
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  Speaker 1: free Medicare or free health care for all program. My
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  Speaker 1: understanding is you've got to live there for a long
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  Speaker 1: period of time before you become even eligible, unlike here
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  Speaker 1: in the United States where apparently you just walk in
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  Speaker 1: and hook yourself up.
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  Speaker 9: I wouldn't even venture north of Toledo into Michigan, Detroit
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  Speaker 9: these days.
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  Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't either. Now you have Senator Abdul El-Sayed
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  Speaker 1: from Michigan. And that's a real puzzling one, man. That
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  Speaker 1: is really puzzling. It's quite frightening. Looking forward to seeing
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  Speaker 1: what the voter turnout is. I haven't found any information
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  Speaker 1: on that because, you know, the blue wave was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be defeated by a Republican surge and people holding
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  Speaker 1: their nose and voting for people they otherwise didn't. But
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  Speaker 1: behind all of that, Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 9: I think the same thing happened in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, well.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see if we can't figure out why. Now, people
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  Speaker 1: are blaming the tariffs, they're blaming the war, and other
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  Speaker 1: people are pointing out, and this is over and over again,
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  Speaker 1: I know pundits, you know, they have sphincters and they
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  Speaker 1: offer opinions and we're all entitled to one. This was
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  Speaker 1: Trump's ice activity. I mean, cause the vast majority of
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  Speaker 1: people voted for Trump, a lot of them anyway, to
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  Speaker 1: shut the border down. He did that. But the pivot
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  Speaker 1: over is ice began. It's, it's, it's bordering for rather
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  Speaker 1: it's a immigration enforcement operations. And people are saying that, well,
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  Speaker 1: they were a little too overzealous. They were too forceful.
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  Speaker 1: They used too much force. They, you know, they threw
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  Speaker 1: people out of been here for decades, et cetera, et cetera. I,
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  Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to believe that that really swayed voters. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, that's my sphincter-inspired analysis. Border shutdown, good.
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  Speaker 1: Immigration customs enforcement, bad. I don't know if you can
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  Speaker 1: reconcile those two, but this is what we're working with
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  Speaker 1: right now. Corey, hang on, brother. I see you're up
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  Speaker 1: on the screen. I want to hear from you. I
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  Speaker 1: want to hear from any listener. Offer your thoughts and analysis.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's opinion matters to some degree. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. Be right back.
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  Speaker 8: 55KRC.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a great tip for... 55KRC Talk Station. Bloodbath! That's
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  Speaker 1: what folks are calling it. Matter of fact, that's what
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: Big Picture with Jack Evans is going to deal with today.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't do the rundown this morning, but we do
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: get to hear from Jack Evans in 705. Bloodbath post-mortem.
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  Speaker 1: Don O'Neill, State Director for AFP Action in Ohio. Now what?
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  Speaker 1: Judge Andrew Napolitano at 830. Josh Gerth from Hamilton County
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party will join us at 840 and see his
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  Speaker 1: assessment where things went off the rails. Corey, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: calling this morning. Welcome to the morning show.
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  Speaker 6: Morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 5: There's one question.
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  Speaker 12: How did issue three pass when everybody voted in the
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  Speaker 12: people that's going to do the opposite of what issue
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  Speaker 12: three is supposed to do.
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  Speaker 1: What, the photo ID requirement?
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  Speaker 13: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's already state law, and I think most, and
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  Speaker 1: if you look at polling, and again, I guess we're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to say polling is fairly accurate, most
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  Speaker 1: people are okay with photo IDs. I mean, this crosses
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  Speaker 1: party lines. Only the Democrats who want it cheap don't
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  Speaker 1: want photo IDs, but Everybody else realizes we need a
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  Speaker 1: photo ID for everything. So that one really doesn't surprise
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  Speaker 1: me too much. It's just, you know, it's just common
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  Speaker 1: sense to vote for that.
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  Speaker 12: I agree with you on that, too. But the kind
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  Speaker 12: of purpose of it was to keep the illegals from
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  Speaker 12: voting to make sure our.
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  Speaker 1: Elections are, you know. Yeah, but it wasn't a radical departure.
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  Speaker 1: We've been living with photo ID in Ohio as a
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  Speaker 1: matter of state law for quite some time. So this
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  Speaker 1: just really just puts it into the Constitution. So in
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  Speaker 1: future administration can't change the law. Well, absent a ballot
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  Speaker 1: initiative to change the Constitution again.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand all that.
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  Speaker 12: But anyway, on a whole different subject, sort of, I
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  Speaker 12: think a silver lining out of this, all the rhinos
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  Speaker 12: that we still have in Columbus, they are going to
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  Speaker 12: actually start voting like Republicans and act like Republicans, and
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  Speaker 12: they're going to champion everything that they do against Amy Acton.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: And they're going to go in front of everyone and say, look,
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  Speaker 12: I'm stopping her from doing this, I'm doing that. They
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  Speaker 12: needed a boogeyman to blame everything on to get the
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  Speaker 12: light off them.
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  Speaker 6: And unfortunately, they got it.
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  Speaker 1: They got Amy Acton. I guess that's the bright light
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  Speaker 1: or the silver lining in the dark cloud that Amy
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  Speaker 1: Acton is going to be governor of the state of
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  Speaker 1: Ohio is that Republicans will still control the legislative branch. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I guess the present her with a bill
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  Speaker 1: that they pass and she'll veto. It'll be the exact
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  Speaker 1: opposite of what's going to happen in Washington, D.C., with
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  Speaker 1: Trump vetoing what the Democrats advanced by way of legislation.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps some gridlock in Ohio, but you're right. At least
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  Speaker 1: the Republican Party will now have a target in the
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  Speaker 1: form of the governor that they can cast the blame on.
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  Speaker 1: A little difficult for them to bite their tongues with
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  Speaker 1: Governor DeWine in spite of the fact that he may
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  Speaker 1: have been worthy of some challenges and rebukes and criticism
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  Speaker 1: during his term. So moving on to the next, we'll
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  Speaker 1: find out what happens, and we'll all have our collective
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  Speaker 1: popcorn out and see how it goes. It's not the
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  Speaker 1: end of the world, that's for sure. We've been up
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  Speaker 1: and down this road. How do you think the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: felt during the midterms when Obama was president? Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: got shellacked, too. And here we find ourselves today, many
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  Speaker 1: years after that, and, you know, the ebbs and flows
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  Speaker 1: of politics. 503-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. I'm pound 550 on AT &
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  Speaker 1: T phones. Now, there was some exit poll. Oh, real
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  Speaker 1: quick here. Disappointing. Oh, my word, disappointing. You know, somebody
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  Speaker 1: in the Republican Party, maybe Josh Gerth will grab the
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  Speaker 1: flag as we collectively depart Hamilton County giving up on it.
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  Speaker 1: The judicial races where, of course, law and order were
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  Speaker 1: on the ballot and bigger than life. All the Democrat
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  Speaker 1: judicial positions, all the Democrats won. Yeah. 55-45 for Johnson
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  Speaker 1: over Katie Cash. This is just so sad. Yes, and
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  Speaker 1: Susan Lukin was defeated. Carrie Bloom remains the juvenile court judge.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get Signal 99 on the phone, Joe, and
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  Speaker 1: she's going to have continued post long as a consequence
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  Speaker 1: of that judicial race. Anyway, Jenkins beat Betsy Sunderman. Betsy
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  Speaker 1: Sunderman's not going to be on the bench anymore, 57-43.
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer Branch beat Roger Bouchard, 65-34. Alan Triggs, for common pleas,
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  Speaker 1: beat Charles Dennis Mahoney, 59-40. Robert Goering lost to Latoya Mallee. 55,
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  Speaker 1: almost 56 to 44. Elizabeth tie for comma, please beat
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  Speaker 1: Ralph Winkler. 55, nine to 44, one. Carrie Bloom beat
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  Speaker 1: Susan Lucan.
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  Speaker 11: 5743.
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  Speaker 1: And I just, I don't understand. How can I not understand? I,
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  Speaker 1: this is Hamilton County. I got a lot of voters
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  Speaker 1: that showed up. I'd like again, If anybody knows what
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  Speaker 1: the statistics were in terms of the voter turnout, I'd
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  Speaker 1: just be interested in just Hamilton County. You know, registered
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  Speaker 1: voters versus people that actually showed up. Did the Republicans
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  Speaker 1: even bother? Did your anger over Donald Trump, the war,
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  Speaker 1: the high price of gasoline, tariffs, immigration enforcement being aggressive,
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  Speaker 1: that steered your vote in terms of local law and order?
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's where we find ourselves this morning. And
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  Speaker 1: I hope you find yourself at listener lunch today at
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  Speaker 1: Anderson Pub and Grill. Josh Garcia was going to be there.
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  Speaker 1: I heard Andrew Pappas said he was going to be there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Westside Jim Kiefer said he is going to
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  Speaker 1: be there. So if they show up, and I hope
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  Speaker 1: they do, that'll be four. Please join in the, well,
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  Speaker 1: the fellowship. We can all struggle together in difficult, challenging times.
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  Speaker 1: It's 525, 55KRC Detox Station. Don't go away. Plenty of
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: stuff coming up. More election news and more phone calls.
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• 16:45
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• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Davis deep dive. Tom Zalastowski, who was all fired up
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: there was going to be a red wave today, even
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: told him to call in and tell me today, I
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: told you so. If it happened, it didn't. It didn't
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  Speaker 1: at all. Feel free to give me a call. In
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  Speaker 1: terms of other races we're following here on the morning show,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's kind of following, right? I didn't get finished with
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  Speaker 1: the judges. Hamilton County, a complete sweep by the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: for all the judicial races, including, you know, Leah Denkelacher.
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  Speaker 1: I was so hopeful for you. That was one of
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  Speaker 1: the closest judicial races there was in Hamilton County. She
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  Speaker 1: got 47.5% of the vote to Kodians, 52.5%. County Commissioner
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  Speaker 1: Mika Owens. Commissioner Mika Owens. You have to get used
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  Speaker 1: to that. Jonathan Pearson lost. It was 60.9 to 38.9.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Since a public school levy passed, 60.9 to 39.1. And
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: a variety of other taxes. So you have the North
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: College Hill School income tax levy shot down.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: 52-47.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Sycamore Schools levy. Past 5742, Winton Woods School Levy. Where
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: did that one go? Let's see. Northwest Local Schools against.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: That one got shot down. Are you happy about that one, Joe?
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: That was a proposed income tax for the North College
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Hill City Schools. That one, 5247 against. The proposed income
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: tax Northwest Local School District. I don't know if that
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: was the second one. Anyway, no, 5742. Proposed income tax
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: for Southwest Local School District. No, 636 to 364. Sycamore
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Community City School District proposed tax levy. Passed 5742. Winton
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Woods City School. Let's see here. Hamilton County proposed tax
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: levy renewal and increase. Passed 56-43. City of Cheviot. Opposed
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: tax levy. Shot down 60-39. Anyway, there's others. Let's see
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: what Joyce has got this morning. Joyce, thanks for calling
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the morning show and welcome.
• 18:59
  Speaker 13: Hey, good morning, Brian.
• 19:00
  Speaker 14: So, you start thinking about and you do the post-mortem
• 19:07
  Speaker 14: on this thing and I think there's so many factors
• 19:09
  Speaker 14: really that went into it. Like, I do think our
• 19:16
  Speaker 14: educational roosters, the roosters are coming home to whatever. They're
• 19:21
  Speaker 14: coming home to Ruth because I think our education system
• 19:25
  Speaker 14: has started pumping out all these children that are now
• 19:28
  Speaker 14: a voting age that think socialism is cool.
• 19:31
  Speaker 15: You're right.
• 19:34
  Speaker 13: Non-binary.
• 19:35
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 19:35
  Speaker 14: I mean, it's madness. You start thinking about it. The
• 19:40
  Speaker 14: fact that Amy acted, it just.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Defies all logic.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 19:46
  Speaker 14: I can't even wrap my head around it, honestly.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: It's hard to do.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I think you're right in casting a lot of the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: blame on the schools. They are churning out a bunch
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of kids who are incapable of using their own thinking
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: abilities because they haven't been developed. They're not capable of
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: applying logic and reason and thinking skills because they haven't
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: learned them. They are sitting in a classroom and they
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: are being told what the answer to the question is
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: on the upcoming test. surrounded by a bunch of woke
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: ideology that has nothing to do with it. And of course,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: they're not learning the differences between capitalism, communism, socialism, Marxism.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: They don't know the difference. They just hear someone offering
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: free stuff and things, you know, and maybe that's one
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of the criticisms the Republican Party has about Donald Trump
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: because he's been thrown around free stuff and things just
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: like a Democrat of late. I don't agree with that
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: component of it. But then again, you know. No president
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: is perfect. I think he's accomplished a lot. I think
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the mainstream media and most people have overlooked the good
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that he has done for us. They're just complaining about
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the price of gasoline and this constant drumbeat that's been
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: going on now for 10 years. Donald Trump, bad, evil,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, fascist, racist, homophobe, xenophobe, name the list. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: it's just evil orange man syndrome. And with this, of course,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: there's no opposition to it, really. None, not in the
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: mainstream media or social media.
• 21:02
  Speaker 14: Well, I mean, the fact that he carried Ohio all
• 21:05
  Speaker 14: three times and we still elected Acton, I can't square
• 21:10
  Speaker 14: those two things. But I will say it to the end.
• 21:12
  Speaker 14: God is still on the throne. You know, none of
• 21:16
  Speaker 14: this is surprising him. So we'll get through this. We
• 21:19
  Speaker 14: got through Biden. We got through Obama.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 21:21
  Speaker 14: And we'll get through this, too.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Joyce. We will. Without question. What,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: are we going to give up on life? Pack our bags,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: go home, never come out anymore?
• 21:30
  Speaker 15: No.
• 21:30
  Speaker 17: No.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: And I tell you what, here's another silver lining, Joyce.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Most likely, the Democrats will remain in a complete state
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: of disarray, fighting amongst themselves in the direction of their party.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: They'll go full-on socialist slash communist, bring out a whole
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: bunch of policies like the unaffordable Medicare for all. Yes,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it sounds great until you do the math. Forty-plus trillion
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: dollars over ten years? It can't be done. So let
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: them go ahead and try. What happened to Obamacare? I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: thought health care was fixed. Look at that Charlie Foxtrot
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of a piece of legislation that they brought to us.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people will finally wake up. It's like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: wait a second. Why am I living such a poor,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: by comparison to the years past? Oh, maybe when Trump
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: was in office. Why does my life suck, comparatively speaking?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to Joe Biden. Inflation through the roof.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Price of gasoline through the roof. Short attention span theater.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I guess we didn't remember that when we went into
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the polls yesterday. Or I guess we didn't remember that
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: when we didn't go and vote yesterday, which I think
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the numbers probably will bear out. that a lot of
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Republicans just generally pissed off, struggling with maybe the fact
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: that Donald Trump promised we would not be in any
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: more wars and he would end inflation immediately on day one.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: In fact, yesterday he said inflation's over. And then there's
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that whole, and I was worried about this from day one,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Trump out campaigning and doing every bit he possibly could
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to get people excited about going and voting yesterday. Run
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: or vote like I'm on the ballot. I think people
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: did yesterday. Draw your own conclusions and let me hear
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: from you. If you disagree, agree, maybe got a different
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: perspective on it, that's what we're talking about here this
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: morning on The Morning Show. Enjoy these conversations, even though
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I'd rather be, well, grinning ear to ear.
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: 513-749-5500.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: The Talk Station. It is 540-55K or CD Talk Station.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Bloodbath.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT & T phones. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: didn't mention anything about Claremont County yet, but my friends
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in Claremont County, congratulations to my friend, Clara Corcoran. She
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: won the Claremont County Commissioner's seat, so congratulations. I like Clara.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I've known her for decades. In terms of school districts there,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the Bethel-Tate local school district tax levy got shot down.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: U.S.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Grant Joint Vocational School District levy got shot down. The
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Arma County Children's Service tax levy passed, as did the
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Hamilton County Children's Services levy. That's going to be an
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: expensive one for you, an extra, I guess it's $ 40
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: more than they were taking out before. So $ 100, 000 equals
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: about $ 121. It was previously about $ 80. So gird your
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: loins for that one. Batavia Township tax levy shot down.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Union Township tax levy shot down. Washington Township tax levy passed.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Those are some Claremont County races. And here back in Ohio,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: people don't like data centers. I know I got the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: memo on that one. I think it's a, I understand
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the anger and frustration over what data centers can do.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Artificial intelligence probably going to put a lot of us
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: out of business, but we find ourselves in a world
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: where we need them. We need to compete with our
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: foreign adversaries in connection. There's not only the Chinese communist party,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: but here in Ohio say, no, there were, 18 municipalities
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in Ohio voted on data center-related measures. Residents in 11
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: municipalities voted on outright bans and the other seven rate
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: on variable degrees of pairing it back or regulating it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Ten municipalities passed bans on data center construction. So, Verboten,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: they are in Hubbard, Sunbury, Patascala, Urbana, Defiance, Upper Sandisky, Piqua, Granville, Connaught,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And Trenton. Trenton was the subject matter of the Empower
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Youth Seminar the other day. So the Trenton residents said no.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Other cities, townships, and villages passed restrictions. Asheville, 82% of
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the voters there voted to reverse the council's agreement and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: negotiations with a company called Edge Connex to build two
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: data centers. So the residents have spoken. Grove City, 55%
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of the voters approved a charter amendment requiring voter approval
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: for future large-scale developments, including data center developments that use
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: more than 20 megawatts of electricity or half a million
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: gallons of water. Perry, 87% voters passed an ordinance requiring
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: developers seeking tax abatements or other financial incentives to offer
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the village financial guarantees. I think that's a reasonable position
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: to take. And over my friends in Wilmington, four separate referendums,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: about 80% of the voters rejected rezoning to accommodate data
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: center projects. And there were others, apparently at the time
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: of the inquiry's reporting, that had not yet been resolved yet.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: So data centers, of course, a huge, huge, huge issue
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: for folks. Economic worries, but generally speaking, again, exit polling.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And we talked to people who actually just got done voting,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and they did that. Poll of more than 79,000 registered
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: voters conducted by the Associated Press. Two-thirds said inflation. was
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: up more because of Trump's policies. Roughly 6 in 10
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: voters said they were very concerned about the cost of food.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Same proportion, well, worried about the price of gasoline and diesel.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Short attention span theater on that one. 6 in 10,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: more than 6 in 10, said the U.S. made the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: wrong decision in connection with the military action against Iran. Yeah,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of anger over that one. Maybe it
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: was a big mistake. And I do truly believe Donald
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Trump thought that it was going to be over with
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that initial bomb that blew up all the heads of
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: state in Iran. No, it doesn't work that way with
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: religious fundamentalists. And here we find ourselves. Tariffs. And this
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: is one that, you know, I don't think about much.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I don't see the direct impact of tariffs on what
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I'm paying, but apparently a lot of people out there
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: saying tariffs are were a bad thing, and they are
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: directly related to some of the consumer cost increases. And
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that may be true, and I know I have a friend,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I just, as a matter of fact, had this story
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: passed on to me yesterday. Business owner, he does, it's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: an international business, and I don't think I need the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: details about what he does, but it's involved in international shipping.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: And he, a very staunch conservative, very, just really quite angry,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: over what tariffs have done to his business and the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: cost of his acquiring materials and his whole business model
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: has been impacted quite profoundly by the tariffs. So I
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: presume that there were a lot of people in his
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: position that have been hit by tariffs. Now, whether the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: tariffs are good or bad, I know Donald Trump went
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: it alone on that, much to the chagrin of people
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: even in the Republican Party, but he did it, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it's clearly having an impact. How profound an impact in
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: yesterday's analysis remains to be seen, but ICE operations also
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: cited as one of the reasons people might have rejected
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the Republican Party and embraced the Democrats, which I find
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: confusing given that, well, shutting down the border has been
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: wildly popular and was a high polling issue for Trump
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and one of the main reasons he won the election
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: in the first place. Anyway, more to digest and consume
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: this morning. We do have Jack Atherton coming up at 7.05.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll be happy about that. Donovan O'Neill from
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity. They did a hell of a lot. Yeah, thanks, Corey.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Forwarded it along Thomas Massey's post on X. Tonight's outcome
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: isn't about placing faith in Democrats or socialist principles. It's
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: about holding Republicans accountable for betraying their promises. All Republicans
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: had to do was put America first, not start another war,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and prosecute sex traffickers. Of course, that's a veiled reference
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to the Epstein files, which, of course, none of us
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: have ever seen as a broken campaign promise. Anyway, over
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to the phones. Eddie, thanks for calling. Holden, welcome to
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Hey, Brian. Well, Thomas Massey, He just said what I
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: was going to say.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to burst your bubble on that.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: One.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Ed Gowrain did win. If it's any consolation for my
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: friends and my Thomas Massey supporters, at least the Republican
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: beat the Democrat in Kentucky.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Well, Brian, here's my thought on this, and I'll be
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: as brief as I can. Trump needs to go. He
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: needs to step down. in January, take Hegseth with him,
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: let J.D. Vance get in there, and do what we
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: can to prepare for the presidential elections.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I hear that, and I'm sure that is your hope.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't have said it out loud, but if you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: were a betting man, how likely is it you think
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Trump would walk away?
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: Oh, I know.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to make sure you're clear. You
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: have a keen understanding of his personality, which is not
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a walk-away personality.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: And his personality is what has caused this.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, no, no.
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: You're right.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I think you're right on that. This was, you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: evil orange man. This was a vote against Donald Trump,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: not in favor, as Massey observed, for Abdul El-Sayed, for example.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: What in the hell are we dealing with? Amy Acton
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: here in Ohio? You know, Joe made an excellent observation
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: before I give Strecker. He said, you know, you look
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: at the map of the state of Ohio. It's all
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: red with the exception of, of course, Toledo, Cuyahoga County, Cleveland,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Franklin County, Columbus. You've got Youngstown, Akron, and Dayton, and Cincinnati,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: all blue. Everything else was red. And Joe called this
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a long time ago. There aren't enough farmers in the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: rural counties in Ohio to counter the concentrated populations in
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: these overwhelmingly Democrat cities. And isn't that the truth? Who's
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: next there, Joe? Cribbage, Mike. Mike, welcome to the show.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Am I going to see you today at Listener Lunch
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: at Anderson Pub and Grill? Please say yes.
• 31:30
  Speaker 18: Oh, Brian, it would be my pleasure for my wife
• 31:32
  Speaker 18: and I to join the holy trinity of Pappas, Girth,
• 31:36
  Speaker 18: and Westside Jim.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Westside Jim, I know. And I'm happy that they're coming.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: At least I know I'm not going to be sitting
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: there by myself. Crying over my beer. I'm not going
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to cry, but, you know, when you're feeling bad, it
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: helps to have friends around you. Sure, absolutely.
• 31:52
  Speaker 18: I'm glad you're going to be there. Yes, sir. First,
• 31:56
  Speaker 18: I want to give a shout-out to my fellow poll
• 31:58
  Speaker 18: workers in the Amelia Elementary School branch. Yesterday was my
• 32:04
  Speaker 18: 10th anniversary, and I was looking forward to celebrating, but
• 32:07
  Speaker 18: we were slammed from the get-go. We ran at about 52%. Overall,
• 32:12
  Speaker 18: Claremont County came in at 60 percent.
• 32:14
  Speaker 13: Wow.
• 32:15
  Speaker 18: And there were times I didn't think we were going
• 32:17
  Speaker 18: to get out at almost 10 o'clock at night. We
• 32:19
  Speaker 18: got a rush at about six o'clock and I knew
• 32:22
  Speaker 18: we were in trouble. And I hate the stereotype, but
• 32:24
  Speaker 18: I've been in this business long enough, you know, especially
• 32:27
  Speaker 18: working there in Claremont County in Amelia, that whatever the
• 32:30
  Speaker 18: get out to vote, it's got to be social media
• 32:33
  Speaker 18: because it definitely was the under 35 crowd that I
• 32:35
  Speaker 18: had never seen in the 10 years.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: You are right. I don't know that for a fact,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: but I would say I bet all that I've got
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: on that point right there. Social media, young people that are, well,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: basically lacking an understanding about political reality.
• 32:49
  Speaker 18: And God bless them because I want participation. You know,
• 32:52
  Speaker 18: yesterday we normally do somewhere between five and eight provisional ballots.
• 32:55
  Speaker 18: And I know your listener knows what it takes to
• 32:58
  Speaker 18: get a provisional ballot. Yesterday we did 35.
• 33:00
  Speaker 15: It was nonstop.
• 33:03
  Speaker 18: As far as mainly moving, but obviously people that recently registered.
• 33:08
  Speaker 18: So I think the old school, and then the next
• 33:10
  Speaker 18: day I'm a campaign manager will be my first. But
• 33:14
  Speaker 18: I think just the old school of 25-hour-a-day ads on
• 33:17
  Speaker 18: TV and radio, it's not getting it done because it
• 33:21
  Speaker 18: doesn't make sense. And that was the first thing I
• 33:24
  Speaker 18: did working in downtown Cincinnati. I looked at the judicial
• 33:27
  Speaker 18: system in Hamel County, and I was extremely disappointed but
• 33:31
  Speaker 18: not shocked. Because nothing makes sense. How would you reelect that,
• 33:35
  Speaker 18: especially when people in your own community are getting killed
• 33:37
  Speaker 18: left and right, and give them another chance at doing what?
• 33:42
  Speaker 18: This social experiment is not working, but yet they're constantly
• 33:45
  Speaker 18: getting voted back in. So something needs to be retooled
• 33:49
  Speaker 18: because we cannot– the trajectory of this, clearly within two years,
• 33:55
  Speaker 18: I don't know if we can turn this around in 28.
• 33:58
  Speaker 18: But the thing's got to change because it doesn't make sense.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess we'll have to wait for some epic
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: disaster like what's unfolding in Europe right now when the
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: social welfare system brought to you by socialists overwhelms the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: budgets and the promises can't be met. You end up
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: with chaos on your hands. People rely on government, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that government reliance is, well, misplaced. People go crazy and
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: get angry. Mike, happy anniversary to you and Cindy. I'm
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing you today at Lister and Lunch.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody's invited. Anderson Pub and Grill. Good question. It's 606
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: at 55 KRC, the talk station. Try to make it
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: a happy Wednesday anyway. I know it's very difficult for
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: folks on the more conservative or libertarian-leaning side of the equation,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: but this is the reality that we're dealing with. And
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: of course, I think the vast majority of us can
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: probably all collectively agree this is more of a referendum
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: against Trump than actually any given candidates that are running
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the race, like Amy Acton being the governor of the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: state of Ohio. I just really wonder what specifically was
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: so compelling about Amy Acton that you had to vote
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: for her or wanted to vote for her. I did,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you know, get back and enjoy the bumpy ride. It's
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: going to be really interesting. And I think we're going
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: to have a lot of sound bites and memes on
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a going forward basis. If that's any consolation prize to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: what we're dealing with right now. Anyway, I love hearing
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: from folks, especially on this, uh, and trying to analyze
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the results of yesterday's terrible elections. Uh, we have, uh,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, 5,500, 800, eight, two,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: three talk pound five 50 on AT & T phones
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: real quick.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: Hi.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: What first record correction, uh, Uh, Curbage Mike and Cindy
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: had been married for 21 years. He was 10 years
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: being a poll worker and they, and thanks to all
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: of the poll workers out there. I know my polling
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: place was packed. Uh, so huge turnout and that's a
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: good thing, but obviously the turnout was much bigger for the, uh,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans. So, uh, 5 1 3 7 4
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: 9 50 500 800 8 2 3 talk pound 550
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: on AT & T phones.
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Sherrod Brown, one Amy Acton, one, uh, Greg Lansman, one, uh,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Warren Davidson once. Hey, look, Warren Davidson once. Go to
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the phone. CJ, thanks for holding. Welcome to the program.
• 36:33
  Speaker 16: Thank you for calling me on this dreary, both metaphorically
• 36:37
  Speaker 16: and reality day. You know, a song you should be
• 36:41
  Speaker 16: playing into your intro should be Californication because that is
• 36:45
  Speaker 16: what we're going to be getting in our politics. Texas
• 36:48
  Speaker 16: House went Democrat. Nobody had that on there. bingo card
• 36:53
  Speaker 16: at all, that not only would the Democrats win everything
• 36:56
  Speaker 16: in Texas, they would win the House, their House of,
• 37:00
  Speaker 16: or Assembly, whatever they want to call it there. Last
• 37:03
  Speaker 16: night was horrible. And I know Trump's going to say
• 37:06
  Speaker 16: it wasn't me and I would win if I was
• 37:08
  Speaker 16: on the ballot. That's not true.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
• 37:11
  Speaker 16: He spent the last year going after, in the last
• 37:15
  Speaker 16: five years, he has turned Georgia into a solid Democrat
• 37:19
  Speaker 16: state Because he thought Governor Kemp was the enemy. Kemp
• 37:24
  Speaker 16: was probably his best ally. He was the only one
• 37:28
  Speaker 16: who was the first one to stand up saying this
• 37:30
  Speaker 16: COVID stuff is crazy. And Trump attacked him in 2020
• 37:34
  Speaker 16: from the podium. And Georgia has never been the same
• 37:36
  Speaker 16: because of that. Then you go on and you try
• 37:40
  Speaker 16: to emulate Barack Obama and rename everything in the world. Well,
• 37:45
  Speaker 16: who cares who's renaming things? It does absolutely nothing for anything.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 37:49
  Speaker 16: He majors in all these little minors. He pushed out
• 37:53
  Speaker 16: some Republicans that I know people don't like. But you
• 37:57
  Speaker 16: know what? Tom Tillis knows how to win North Carolina.
• 38:01
  Speaker 16: Cornyn probably wasn't the best candidate. And if somebody wanted
• 38:05
  Speaker 16: to back somebody, maybe Wesley Hunt was it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: But you know what?
• 38:08
  Speaker 16: When you go out there and you put these tariffs
• 38:11
  Speaker 16: on the rural community, my father has a little hobby
• 38:15
  Speaker 16: ranch in California. My mom owns a farm in Illinois.
• 38:18
  Speaker 16: And you know what? They've been crushed by these terrorists
• 38:21
  Speaker 16: because nobody's buying stuff from America anymore. And then he
• 38:24
  Speaker 16: turns around and goes and buys all this beef to
• 38:27
  Speaker 16: bring it and import it and kills the cattle markets in.
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: The United States.
• 38:32
  Speaker 16: There's a reason why he got shellacked last night, and
• 38:34
  Speaker 16: it was all in the rural communities, because those Republican
• 38:38
  Speaker 16: voters aren't going to show up if they feel like
• 38:40
  Speaker 16: I'm being attacked by my own side. And this is
• 38:42
  Speaker 16: the guy that I was willing to literally fight for
• 38:45
  Speaker 16: everything for, and he turned on me. Trump has— I don't
• 38:50
  Speaker 16: know what is going to happen in the Republican primary.
• 38:53
  Speaker 16: And to the last caller, I get it. I understand
• 38:56
  Speaker 16: Trump should probably step down. He's not going to. But J.D.
• 39:00
  Speaker 16: Vance isn't the answer because he's ran around talking about
• 39:03
  Speaker 16: how the Ayatollah of Iran was a good guy now
• 39:07
  Speaker 16: all summer long, and they were going to follow the MOU,
• 39:09
  Speaker 16: which they obviously weren't. And Vance looks completely naïve. And
• 39:15
  Speaker 16: he sits there and argues against Friedman and Reagan constantly.
• 39:20
  Speaker 16: You want to make your Republican voters not want to vote?
• 39:24
  Speaker 16: Go around saying I'm going to give you a $ 5, 000 check.
• 39:25
  Speaker 16: Because you know what the Democrats did? They said you.
• 39:30
  Speaker 16: don't need $ 5, 000. We'll give you Medicaid for all.
• 39:34
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: We'll give you bigger. $ 5, 000 is small. But see, then
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: here I'll go back to the perhaps low education level,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: at least politically or economically among the voters, generally speaking.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: If you're like, okay, I'm a Republican. I reject the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: idea of presidents trying to buy votes. And I agree
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: with you on that. I think it's a terrible thing.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: The optics were bad. I even said it at the time.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: But then flip it over. Oh, the Democrats just said, well,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: they're going to offer me Medicare for all. And I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: don't care about five grand Medicare for all. Has any
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Democrat explained how it's going to be paid for? The
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: answer is no. It can't be. They have no plan
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: for delivering on that other than financial rule. And worse,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: we've already got a $ 40- plus trillion price to have for
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: 10 years. Go ahead. Let them try to deliver on
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that in the aftermath of Obamacare, which is supposed to
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: be Medicare for all, at least one size fits all.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: How's that looking for you? You can't even afford to
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: buy unless you're eligible for a subsidy. So the American
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: taxpayers are subsidizing your insurance premium payment under Obamacare. How
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: does that look? How are the optics on that? And
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: has it worked out well for everybody? The answer is no, no, no, no, no. So, yeah,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thing the Democrats are not
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: going to have to deliver. This is like the mistake
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump made when he said, I'm going to end
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: inflation day one in office. How can any human being
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: do this? Democrats literally ran on price of gasoline and
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: evil orange man. There may be a little bit more
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: to it than that, but they sure as hell didn't
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: run on your young girls in high school sports having
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: to play against guys. That kind of went by the wayside.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: They're still the party of that, but they're going to
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: have to figure out how to deliver just like Trump
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: had to figure out how to deliver. One of the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: reasons he probably took a shellacking yesterday or America rejected
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: him is because he promised no more wars and ended
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: up getting us in a pretty blank and a bad
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: war that's not going away anytime soon. I mean, you know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you're right. Plenty of blame to go around. And maybe
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: people did vote like he was on the ballot yesterday,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: and I think that's probably a pretty good way of
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: concluding what happened. It really is a tragedy, but Pick
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: ourselves up, dust ourselves off while the Republican Party is
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: busy doing its own internal analysis and self-reflection. Which direction
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: do we collectively need to go to beat back this
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: socialist shift in the Democrat Party? Remember, the Democrats are
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: facing their own internal divisions. Are they going to embrace
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: full-on socialism a la El-Sayed, a rejection of really the
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Constitution of the United States of America, a recipe for
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: digging us further into the financial hole that we are
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: already in, perhaps inescapable? Are they going to continue pressing
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: their green energy policies, resulting in the price of your
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: gasoline continuing to be high and perhaps even higher because
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: they reject the concept of fossil fuels? They got problems
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: on their hands. This isn't an ultimate win for the Democrats.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: On paper, they won huge. But now they're going to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: have to deliver. And I'm just looking forward to them
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: trying to wrestle through that problem that's now landed in
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: their laps. And another, New Hampshire Gary, real quick here.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I just have to give Joe Strecker credit for more
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: high comedy. He said no one should be congratulating Amy Acton.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: They should be congratulating perhaps David Pepper, who will be
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: running the high state of Ohio. But more fundamentally, my
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: point was congratulate the collective that will be Amy Acton's
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: puppet masters. New Hampshire Gary, welcome to the show, and
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling this morning.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: Can I give Harold a big round of applause? Because
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: I thought I was the only one seeing this. When
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: they talk about J.D. Vance trying to mediate the war
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: in Iran, I've never been in my life so dismayed
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: with the obvious of what an incompetent boob J.D.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Vance is.
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: He's going over and he's talking with Qatar and Qatar
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: and in Pakistan as mediators. And they go over there
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: and they're helping people. J.D. Vance write the treaty or
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: the MOAs. And after that, they go over the very
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: next day and they all went, the three countries, they
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: all went to the Iranians, the Ayatollah's funeral, and they
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: were weeping tears bitterly. And I'm like, you're just an
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: incompetent boob if you can't see this. And then they
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: continue using these same three countries, which have been a
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: proxy for the Islamic State, you know, because they hid
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, hit less than a mile
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: away from— it' s all a sham. It's a sham. And it's
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: easily seen true, but they— no, no, we're the smart ones.
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: We know what's best. And they get us into a war—
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: And they're like, we'll just make more bombs and we'll
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: just bomb more. And then, you know, they're so proud.
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: And I'm a military guy. They're so proud. We've got
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: a bomber that can circle the earth three times around
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: and take that one big daisy cutter, you know, and
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: go down the hole and blow up the, you know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: what is it, a pickaxe?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: That is, from my understanding, from everything I've heard and read,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that's not true because it would have been done already.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: We don't have a bomb that can penetrate that deep
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: into the terrain. There are hundreds and hundreds of feet
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: below solid granite or something. Go ahead and drop a
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Moab on it. It won't do anything. That's the problem
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: we've got. The only thing that could actually accomplish that
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: from everything I understand, and I could be wrong, is
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon. I don't think we're going to go nuclear,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and I sure as hell hope we don't. We've got
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: problems on our hands right now.
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: That's my point. you know they're so proud of this
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: technology that they really lost the eminent of what war
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: is and what you can't cannot do.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Well right well i think between russia ukraine and the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: united states in this current war most recent war with
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the iranians we won learned one thing for sure it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: not aircraft and it's not uh navy ships to a
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: certain degree it still is but It's small drones. It's drones.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: It's cruise missiles. It's very precision-guided, small, inexpensive missiles. It's offensive.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And I can't remember the line I read yesterday. It's,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you're blowing up the archer rather than defending yourself from
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the arrow. And that makes kind of good sense. And
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: when the archer's really inexpensively blown up, as long as
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you know where it is, that's the future of war.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: It's not how many F-35s you've got. It's how many thousands...
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: precision missiles and drones you've got. Thanks for the call,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: my friend. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT & T phone.
• 46:16
  Speaker 19: Just after 2.75, crews are working with an accident. He's
• 46:20
  Speaker 19: bound on the Reagan Highway before you get to 75.
• 46:23
  Speaker 19: That backing up traffic towards Galbraith and Linton.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram, 55KRC, the talk station. 622-55KRC, the talk station.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Chime in. Love to hear from you. Post-election, post-mortem. And
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that's actually the subject of Jack Atherton's conversation. Bloodbath, post-mortem.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: The topic with Jack coming up at 7.05. Donovan Neal,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity. We'll ask him the question, well, now what?
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And again, props to AFP Action for doing all that
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: door-knocking throughout the state of Ohio. And everybody in my
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: listening audience who participated in that, you have to try.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: You can't just, you know, pack it up and leave
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: without giving it a good effort. And I really do
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: believe that most of the pundits, most of the listeners
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: suggesting this was a referendum against Donald Trump and predicated
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: on some pretty shaky ground. Like, for example, I keep
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: going back to the price of gasoline. And yeah, he
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: did cause it to go up, but you just bought
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: into worse with the continued embrace of these green energy policies,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: which do not provide sufficient energy, will not meet our needs,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: even if we have data centers or not. So let's
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: go to the phones. We have Drew Pappas. Welcome back
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to the morning show. You still going to plan on
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: showing up at Anderson Pub and Grill today for me,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: with me and Josh Gerth and Westside Jim and Cribbage Mike?
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: Brian, solely as a courtesy to you and the aforementioned photographs,
• 47:42
  Speaker 15: I just don't wear your Birkenstocks.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: You can't tell a person's political affiliation by the shoes
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: they wear. You might have a good guess, but it's
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: not always right.
• 47:56
  Speaker 15: Well, I had to cover Paul. I mean, I might
• 48:00
  Speaker 15: sound overly jovial this morning cause I'm really not, there's no, there's,
• 48:04
  Speaker 15: I mean, but what's the point? Um, um, but I did,
• 48:09
  Speaker 15: I did have the opportunity to cover a poll yesterday and,
• 48:12
  Speaker 15: and it was funny because I was, I was there.
• 48:15
  Speaker 15: I was very, I was, I was about as kind
• 48:17
  Speaker 15: as I've ever been in my life. You know, I
• 48:19
  Speaker 15: was just quietly sitting there and the Democrats were trying
• 48:23
  Speaker 15: to bait me into some sort of a conversation as
• 48:26
  Speaker 15: they were cackling amongst themselves. And, the one person there
• 48:30
  Speaker 15: was definitely a cackler.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Um, well, they are, they are masters at baiting, aren't they?
• 48:36
  Speaker 15: Well, they tried, but I was too, I was, I,
• 48:38
  Speaker 15: you know, to, to, to bait somebody, you have to
• 48:41
  Speaker 15: get somebody that's mentally inferior to yourself.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: And that wasn't the case here, but, um.
• 48:45
  Speaker 15: At the end of the day, um, had a good dime, uh,
• 48:49
  Speaker 15: working the poles. It couldn't have been a more beautiful
• 48:51
  Speaker 15: day weather wise. And, um, you know, it, the results
• 48:56
  Speaker 15: are what they are. I mean, I'm stunned. I mean,
• 49:00
  Speaker 15: pick a race, man. I mean, seriously, pick, pick one race.
• 49:03
  Speaker 15: And then you've been discussing it this morning. Um, there's no, uh,
• 49:07
  Speaker 15: you know, this is people, people are, people are voting.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Uh, they, they drive.
• 49:14
  Speaker 15: Past the gas pump, but like you just said, you know,
• 49:18
  Speaker 15: we discussed I am on a podcast and not to
• 49:22
  Speaker 15: plug it, but we do a podcast. We were discussing,
• 49:24
  Speaker 15: you know, gas comes down miraculously. And I'll raise this point.
• 49:28
  Speaker 15: So nothing really fundamentally changes. No. So if gas drops
• 49:34
  Speaker 15: precipitously in the next, let's say, between now and Christmas,
• 49:38
  Speaker 15: I'm going to have to scratch my head and be like, huh?
• 49:42
  Speaker 15: What was keeping them high? Because nothing fundamentally changes. And
• 49:47
  Speaker 15: the Democrats, and, you know, I mean, I'm in different,
• 49:50
  Speaker 15: I'm honestly in strange ground here. I've never had to
• 49:57
  Speaker 15: live under the roof of a dysfunctional alcoholic, yet as
• 50:02
  Speaker 15: a state, proverbially, we are going to be in that position.
• 50:06
  Speaker 15: No disrespect to Ms.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Acton, but I hope she gets the help she needs. Oh, no,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: not at all. But, you know, rest assured. I mean,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Joe made the observation, too. And, you know, jokingly with
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: his tongue in his cheek, well, you know, we should
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: be congratulating the puppet masters who will be making the
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: decisions on behalf of Amy Acton. And, of course, you
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: can take some.
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's David Pepper.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, take some comfort in that or not. No, I
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: don't take any.
• 50:29
  Speaker 15: I mean, David Pepper is going to be calling the shots. And,
• 50:33
  Speaker 15: you know, we won. You know, I feel I feel terrible.
• 50:36
  Speaker 15: You know, there's so many good candidates here locally that
• 50:39
  Speaker 15: lost yesterday that I feel terrible for. You know, I
• 50:42
  Speaker 15: don't know any more other, you know, none one that
• 50:44
  Speaker 15: sticks out more than others. But Ted Winkler, a lifetime
• 50:48
  Speaker 15: of service, a fantastic judge, the adoption judge, and he
• 50:52
  Speaker 15: gets swept out. I mean, you know, it's fine. Listen,
• 50:56
  Speaker 15: let me say this. For those that are in the
• 51:01
  Speaker 15: position that they can simply say, you know what? Things
• 51:05
  Speaker 15: have changed. It's time to move to someplace where my
• 51:09
  Speaker 15: views more align with others that live there. I think
• 51:13
  Speaker 15: you're going to see a lot of that because, you know,
• 51:15
  Speaker 15: I posted this morning, where is Galt's Gulch? And Texas
• 51:19
  Speaker 15: was gulch gulch for a while. But then what happened
• 51:22
  Speaker 15: is all the people from California moved to Texas. And
• 51:25
  Speaker 15: they said, oh, you know what? I remember I'm a Democrat.
• 51:29
  Speaker 15: You forget why they moved. They forget why they moved
• 51:32
  Speaker 15: from the place that they that was a shithole.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, darn it. Kind of hit the dump button there. Geez, Louise,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: you know better than that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I know, I know.
• 51:42
  Speaker 15: Forgive me, I have no sleep.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: You can relate to the folks in Texas who are
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: overwhelmed with the California voters having moved there because you're
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: in Anderson Township, and a lot of the people that
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: were far left-wing bluers moved out to Anderson Township, which
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: is really solid red for all those years, and looked
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the direction Anderson Township's gone.
• 51:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely.
• 51:58
  Speaker 15: I mean, you know, it's pretty much that simple. Now,
• 52:00
  Speaker 15: there were some, let's be fair, because that would be
• 52:04
  Speaker 15: a bit too simplistic on a state level as Ohio,
• 52:07
  Speaker 15: because yet Ohio, I mean, just for a reminder... Ohio
• 52:11
  Speaker 15: is number one state economically to move to in the
• 52:15
  Speaker 15: last few years under Republican leadership. Now, I'm not saying
• 52:20
  Speaker 15: it's been a mecca or an attraction for mass migration.
• 52:25
  Speaker 15: But at the end of the day, you know, I'd
• 52:29
  Speaker 15: just like to remind folks the largest Somali population outside
• 52:32
  Speaker 15: of Minneapolis is where?
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Columbus, Ohio.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Columbus, Ohio.
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: 70,000.
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 52:38
  Speaker 15: Right. So, you know, you bring in a demographic that
• 52:41
  Speaker 15: votes a certain way. Now, I'm not saying all those
• 52:43
  Speaker 15: people can vote, but I bet you a large percentage can.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Perhaps. Franklin County, though, Franklin County is blue anyway. It
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: has been. I mean, it's Cleveland now, Cuyahoga County, Hamilton
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: County is now blue. You look at Dayton's been blue.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: And that's, you know, the overwhelming concentration of people in
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the cities outnumber all the people in the rural areas,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: because if they didn't, then you'd have Governor Ramaswamy right now.
• 53:05
  Speaker 15: Well, I mean, I would also like to remind, listen,
• 53:07
  Speaker 15: I'm not going to, I don't mean this maliciously. I
• 53:10
  Speaker 15: think the man has done a lot of good things. But,
• 53:13
  Speaker 15: you know, there would be no Amy Acton were it
• 53:15
  Speaker 15: not for Governor Mike DeWine. And I will never forget that. And,
• 53:19
  Speaker 15: you know, at the end of the day, you know,
• 53:24
  Speaker 15: there were other factors at play. And I'm not going
• 53:30
  Speaker 15: to delve into them, but there were other factors at
• 53:31
  Speaker 15: play in this governor's race, which I don't agree with.
• 53:34
  Speaker 15: But I'd also like to point out, you know, I
• 53:36
  Speaker 15: had some people that, you know, I saw some ads.
• 53:38
  Speaker 15: So what was the guy's name? I can't remember. Redfoot? Redleaf?
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: The Independent.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: And I commented on that. You know, you wouldn't have
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Sherrod Brown as senator if the third-party candidates were not
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: in the race in terms of percentage-wise of votes. You
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: had Sherrod Brown at 50. You had Houston at 45.2.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: But Gregory Levy and William Redpath, the Libertarian candidate.
• 54:03
  Speaker 20: That's it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Uh, had 2.8 and the levy independent had 2.1, add
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: those together, add it to Husted's. If that would have
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: gone that way, which isn't safe to say necessarily, then
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Husted would have be brown. So, yeah.
• 54:15
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 54:15
  Speaker 15: So, I mean, you know, there was a lot of
• 54:17
  Speaker 15: things and then who recruited those people to run, you
• 54:19
  Speaker 15: look at the money behind them and, and I mean,
• 54:22
  Speaker 15: it is what it is. Um, and, and, and let's
• 54:24
  Speaker 15: be fair, it's not a stretch to say these are, are,
• 54:27
  Speaker 15: are Democrat ploys because you You need look no further
• 54:30
  Speaker 15: than Alaska, where they found a man with the same
• 54:32
  Speaker 15: last name to run against a sitting representative there in Alaska. So,
• 54:38
  Speaker 15: I mean, and that's documented. That was Democrat. You might say, oh,
• 54:40
  Speaker 15: that wasn't a Democrat. No, that was a Democrat. That
• 54:42
  Speaker 15: was all Democrat shenanigans.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, that just is what it is. And the
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: real Dan Sullivan did win the race.
• 54:49
  Speaker 15: I understand that. I understand that. But the confusion it caused,
• 54:52
  Speaker 15: we documented cases. A man on TV said his vote,
• 54:56
  Speaker 15: he went to vote for the other.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Dan Sullivan, but he was confused. Shameless effort.
• 54:59
  Speaker 11: That's just shameless.
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: Correct.
• 55:01
  Speaker 15: So, you know, things are what they are. The country
• 55:04
  Speaker 15: does go on. Things go on. I don't know what
• 55:07
  Speaker 15: the Congress, the new Congress in January is going to do.
• 55:11
  Speaker 15: Who knows?
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows?
• 55:14
  Speaker 15: Trump's going to veto everything. It's going to be nonstop impeachment.
• 55:17
  Speaker 15: This impeachment that they've already. I just want to. I
• 55:21
  Speaker 15: just want to look at what gas, and I don't know,
• 55:24
  Speaker 15: when you're driving, when the folks in wherever that are
• 55:29
  Speaker 15: just gleefully driving to work today in their hybrid whatever,
• 55:35
  Speaker 15: when they're driving in January and they're like, nothing's getting
• 55:38
  Speaker 15: done because we're tied up in impeachment, I hope that
• 55:41
  Speaker 15: makes the bitter pill of the economy all the more
• 55:46
  Speaker 15: sweet for them because Last I checked, I think the
• 55:49
  Speaker 15: futures on the markets are down pretty sharply. Whether you
• 55:55
  Speaker 15: want to admit it or not, whether you consider yourself
• 55:57
  Speaker 15: wealthy or not, you have stake in that game. You
• 56:00
  Speaker 15: have a 401k. You have a retirement account. In some way, shape,
• 56:04
  Speaker 15: or form, we're all invested in that. When things turn
• 56:10
  Speaker 15: out the way they do, when things go the way
• 56:12
  Speaker 15: they do, you have no further to look in the
• 56:14
  Speaker 15: mirror and say, Gosh, maybe I did. Maybe my hatred
• 56:17
  Speaker 15: for evil orange man, I cut off my nose to
• 56:20
  Speaker 15: spite my face. Perhaps that might have some things to
• 56:23
  Speaker 15: do with it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: And I think, yes, that is true. And we'll have
• 56:25
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• 56:27
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• 56:30
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• 56:34
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• 57:35
  Speaker 7: Good morning, Brian Thomas. It is a gloomy day. I mean,
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: what the heck? You only got one vote. So, you know,
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: we stuck out our civic duty and did what we
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: could do. Their game plan works very well. They got
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: a bunch of disenchanted voters that don't know what the
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: heck they're doing. And they live off of that blue sheet.
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: If you see how Biden did it, living in the basement, well,
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: that's what Acton did. She lived in the basement. There's
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: no debating. So our future is supposedly relying on educating
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: yourself when it comes to the candidates. Well, there's no education.
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: Like I said, they hold that blue sheet and they
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: go in and they hit that thing. I saw it
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: when the early voting numbers come out. They were so
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: lopsided that I knew daggone well we were going to
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: have a bug bath because they don't debate and they
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: won't debate.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Well, they don't have to because their people will vote
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: for a Democrat regardless. They don't understand politics. They don't
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: understand economics. They don't understand the realities of the green
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: energy policies and how that impacts gasoline prices. They're brainwashed.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And this has been an action plan for the Democrats
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: now for decades. Concentrated Democrats in high population areas can
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: defeat the usually more conservative rural outlining counties in any
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: given state. This is why they're all against the Electoral College.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: They want to get rid of the Electoral College. So
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: New York, California, and Illinois, their high populations can, well,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: eradicate the red states that exist in between the coasts.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: It's a game-winning strategy, and it's proven very successful. It
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: worked here in Ohio. You look at the map, what
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: do you see? Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, Cleveland, Youngstown, Akron, Toledo,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: all very blue. all voting for Amy Acton, and all
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the rest of the counties in the state are pretty
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: much bright red. So you can't defeat the numbers game.
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: And, you know, Brian, we have a tradition in Priceville, Chile,
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: on Election Day where on the outside patio room, which,
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: you know, you've been there several times, the Democrats get
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: half the room, the Republicans get half the room. Well,
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: yesterday they informed Steve, the owner, that they will never
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: be coming back out there.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're done.
• 59:55
  Speaker 13: Why?
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: Because they just don't have to. I mean, I guess
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: sometimes they got into a debate there, but they didn't
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: give really a just reason why that they wouldn't come
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: out again. And that's kind of disheartening because all of
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: a sudden it's a snicker, snicker, ha, ha, ha, we're
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: going to win no matter what. Why should we even
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: play this game of a half a room, a half
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: a room? And I enjoyed those because you did get
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: to see all the Democrat candidates well, the city council
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: people mostly, and they weren't even running. But you got
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: to see that their candidates, along with our candidates, when
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: you mentioned Ted Winkler, he shook my hand and he
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: asked me yesterday, he goes, Jim, what do you think?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: You're up on all this stuff. And I didn't know
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: how to answer him. I mean, there was four or
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: five judges there. Warren Davidson was there. And it just,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: how can you answer this? I mean, I couldn't answer
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: because I knew if I was honest, that I would either,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: you know, kind of, excuse my language, would piss people off.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: I don't think that's a dumb button one. But I
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: didn't know how to, I couldn't answer that. I had
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: to change the subject. You know, I went back to, well,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: is this burger good? I'm only kidding, of course. But,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: you know, I looked at him thinking that he is
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: locked up because he's such a great judge. He does
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: all the adoptions. And those adoptions, most of them, are
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: Democrats or lower income that take on responsibility.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Well, he views that role as nonpartisan. What's his role?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: To help children, to facilitate adoption. He does a wonderful job.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And how do you reward a man who's done such
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: a wonderful job and created these wonderful families, loving families
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: that have care and concern over the adopted children, yet
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: throw them out? I don't get it.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: Who's going to take that place now? I mean, you've
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: got a Democrat coming in there who's inexperienced. and doesn't
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: know what they're doing. Susan Lucan was one of his magistrates,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 7: and now she's lost on the Bloom deal. So it's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: a mess. The only thing that we've got to look
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 7: forward to is Signal 99's got cannon fodder.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, my word. Well, and we are going to be
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: inundated with plenty of sound bites from our governor-elect Amy Acton.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sure she's not going to be able to polish
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: her act up.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: If she ever talks, Brian.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think– well, we'll see what happens. We've never
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: had a governor in the United States of America, to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: my knowledge, that has hid and never come out and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: made public pronouncements or supporting legislation or against legislation ever.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: So if she can manage that hat trick, I'm.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: Well, you said it before. It's going to be a
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: David Pepper.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: He's so vindictive. He's a horrible person. He's so vindictive,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: and if people remember that 3.30 in the morning picking
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: up two transvestites and then claiming when his wife was
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: pregnant of trying to cover why he was out there,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: and now he's our lieutenant governor? Are you kidding me?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, they've got so much baggage that it's just tough.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Not enough to sway the voters.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: I would be gone also. I mean, I'm just too
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: daggone old to start over. I should have done this 20,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: 30 years ago and just not have to worry about
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: calling in and being disgruntled.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Well, you've been a very, very effective and motivating factor
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: for politics on the West Side for decades, Jim, and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: we all salute and appreciate your efforts. And don't look
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: back and view them as wasted. You did your best.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: You were just up against an overwhelming force, and that
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: would be coming from the city of Cincinnati and then
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: spilling out over into the county for all these years.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: It's been a slow, steady build. But you have nothing
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: to regret, my friend, nothing at all. And I'm looking
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: forward to seeing you at lunch today, my brother.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 7: One last thing. There is no more transparency.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: There is what?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: There's no more transparency.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know which specific category of transparency you're
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: looking for. I tend to agree with your statement, but
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I don't really think there's been a lot of transparency
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: under any administration up until now.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you're correct.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 7: And I will see you at lunch today.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Looking forward to it, man.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: Take care, buddy.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: You too. I'll see you in a few hours. 647.
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• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: thanks for calling today, and welcome to the Aftermath program
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: here on a Wednesday.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 9: Oh, boy, yeah.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: I heard Jim on there just before, and I just
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: want to let him know, Jim, you're not alone. Don't
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: look back in despair. I mean, we'll get through this.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: We have before. So I thought I'd give just, you know,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: try and be a little bit upbeat about something and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: talk about some things I'm thankful for. One, I did
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: wake up this morning, so we got that.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Check.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: Two, I'm thankful for you and this program. Always appreciate
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: and I hope to partake in more soon, the listener lunches.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: And I appreciate, I've heard Drew Pappas a couple times
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: on here and just before. Appreciate him. Always look forward
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: to hearing from Jack Atherton.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: And, you know, we'll get through this. And I do
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: got to disagree with Jim on one thing. I think
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: Governor-elect Acton will make some statements, you.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Know, soon as the hangover wears off. Yes.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: You know, get coffee in her, you know. She'll sober
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: up and make some statements.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: We'll hear the, you know, we're going to make, go
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: forward and bright new futures and all that.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: The lieutenant governor will make all the decisions. And, you know,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: in a few years, you'll have a chance to right
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: the ship.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Let's hope so. And if what I expect to happen
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio happens, then we will right
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: the ship next time around. There's always next time around.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: You know, we all felt pretty bad when Obama got elected.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: But look what happened in the midterms during Obama's tenure.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: He got shellacked. Remember the shellacking? Well, now we're feeling
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: what he felt. And obviously, people voted against Barack Obama
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: in that election. Lots of people voted against Donald Trump,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: even though kind of an erroneous thing to just vote
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: against Donald Trump, considering what you get in return, like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Amy Acton. But you're right. And you know what? Thank
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: you for mentioning me. I appreciate that. I'm glad to
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: be in this position. And I am thankful for a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: lot of things, too. And so I think that's a
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: very excellent point you're making. Don't just throw in the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: towel and give up. It ain't over. There ain't no
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: fat lady singing in politics. Elections have a way of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: looking bad and the outcome can turn out to be
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. You know, we got our border shut down.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: At least we don't have, you know, tens of thousands
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants flowing across the border. We can look
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: at that victory and In spite of the fact that
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of people may have gone Democrat in this
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: vote because they thought ICE was overreacting, fine. I'm not
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: necessarily thinking that had a lot to do with it.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: But I'm thankful for you, the listening audience. I'm thankful
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: for Joe Strecker. I'm thankful for my friends. And God
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: bless them. I'm thankful for my wife and my kids.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Ain't nothing going to take that away from me. And
• 1:07:35
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• 1:07:36
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• 1:07:39
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• 1:07:44
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• 1:07:47
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• 1:07:51
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• 1:08:01
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• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: to make it a happy Wednesday. I know most of
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: my listening audience is not very thrilled with the outcome
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: of the elections yesterday, but... We'll live to fight another day.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: And I have a caller named Mississippi James who regularly
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: talks about the pendulum swinging back and forth. And clearly
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: the pendulum swung pretty dramatically back over to the Democrats.
• 1:08:22
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• 1:08:24
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• 1:08:27
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• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: The Big Picture. Welcome back, Jack Atherton, my dear friend.
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  Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure having you on my program.
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  Speaker 11: Thanks for having me back, brother. Although just this once.
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  Speaker 11: I'd rather be sleeping.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 11: As long as Rip Van Winkle, you're going to have
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  Speaker 11: experts to discuss Ohio politics, including the best callers anywhere.
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  Speaker 11: But a word about Vivek Ramaswamy, because when he announced,
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  Speaker 11: I was giddy with the chance that by cutting property
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  Speaker 11: and income taxes and attracting industry to our state, Ramaswamy
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  Speaker 11: might turn Ohio into the next Florida, or at least Tennessee.
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  Speaker 11: But unlike the next governor of Florida, Byron Donalds, who
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  Speaker 11: is succeeding the next possible president of the United States,
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  Speaker 11: Ron DeSantis, the big GOP winner last night. Unlike DeSantis
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  Speaker 11: and Donalds, Ramaswamy ran a nauseatingly negative campaign. And I'm
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  Speaker 11: not just talking about the TV ad with Amy Acton's
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  Speaker 11: abusive mother. In other ads, he's shown hundreds, maybe thousands
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  Speaker 11: of times. We saw Acton in a fetal position so often,
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  Speaker 11: I felt I was in a sonogram clinic. What's worse, Ramaswamy,
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  Speaker 11: the supposed technocrat, almost never shared his policy plans. He
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  Speaker 11: couldn't blame John Husted for negativity. Since passing the one
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  Speaker 11: and only big, beautiful bill more than a year ago
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  Speaker 11: in the U.S. Senate, the Republicans there have done pretty
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  Speaker 11: much nothing. Now Republicans won't even be able to confirm
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  Speaker 11: judicial nominees, pass responsible budgets, or perhaps vote down a
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  Speaker 11: Trump impeachment bill. conviction, depending on what some of the
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  Speaker 11: more moderate Republicans do. But moving on. As listeners know,
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  Speaker 11: we try painting the big picture here, using history. So
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  Speaker 11: I've got some thoughts on that. Yes, we know. We know.
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  Speaker 11: You just brought it up a few minutes ago. The
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  Speaker 11: party in the White House does usually suffer what President
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  Speaker 11: Obama called a shellacking when he lost the midterm overwhelmingly. Yet, folks,
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  Speaker 11: Not all midterm losses are created equal. Take a couple
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  Speaker 11: of examples from recent history. Ronald Reagan's GOP got clobbered
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  Speaker 11: after he passed historic across-the-board tax cuts, but only because
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  Speaker 11: those tax cuts had not yet kicked in. When they did,
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  Speaker 11: Reagan then won an historic landslide, and Congress was flooded
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  Speaker 11: with Republicans and Reagan Democrats. Last year's Trump tax cuts
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  Speaker 11: are just beginning to kick in, from no tax on
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  Speaker 11: tips and social security to the reshoring of manufacturing jobs
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  Speaker 11: from China. Look at this week's numbers. However, President Trump
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  Speaker 11: undercut his own momentum, not by attacking Iran's nuclear facilities,
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  Speaker 11: which I supported. I know many people in the audience didn't.
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  Speaker 11: I think he cut his momentum by refusing to conclude
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  Speaker 11: the war quickly, and decisively. As I've been saying for months,
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  Speaker 11: go back and listen to the podcasts, Trump is still
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  Speaker 11: dithering about negotiating with terrorists. At seven months of uncertainty,
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  Speaker 11: that raised gas, diesel, and fertilizer prices, pushing up inflation,
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  Speaker 11: interest rates, mortgage rates, and a general sense that average Americans,
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  Speaker 11: not tech billionaires, but average Americans like us, are falling behind.
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  Speaker 11: And Brian, here's one other midterm example. Bill Clinton, in 1994,
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  Speaker 11: gave the House of Representatives to the Republicans for the
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  Speaker 11: first time in 40 years. Yet that turned out to
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  Speaker 11: be Clinton's biggest break, because after he declared, quote, the
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  Speaker 11: era of big government is over, Bill sidelined Hillary, whose
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  Speaker 11: socialist health care plan, HillaryCare, was rejected even by Democrats,
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  Speaker 11: Democrats of that day. Instead, President Clinton worked with the
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  Speaker 11: new House Speaker, Newt Gingrich, to balance the federal budget
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  Speaker 11: and reform welfare. The trouble today is, it is inconceivable,
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  Speaker 11: and unlike Vassini and the Princess Bride, I do know
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  Speaker 11: what that word means. It's inconceivable that President Donald Trump
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  Speaker 11: will be able to work the way Reagan did with
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  Speaker 11: these new Democrat socialists, which is more likely, and President
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  Speaker 11: Trump has already signaled this, is that he's going to
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  Speaker 11: follow the example of Barack Obama and try doing an
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  Speaker 11: end run around Congress by ruling through executive orders. But
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  Speaker 11: Obama called his pen and his phone. The trouble there
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  Speaker 11: is the Supreme Court, even before it had a conservative majority,
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  Speaker 11: overturned Obama, sometimes nine zip. And Obama's failures led to
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  Speaker 11: the election of Donald Trump. Brian. The new Democrat socialists
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  Speaker 11: in Washington, there are some moderate Democrat governors, but I'm
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  Speaker 11: talking about Washington. The new Democrat socialists who have no
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  Speaker 11: plans for affordability, much less affordable gas, which they want
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  Speaker 11: to outlaw, these socialists will impose gridlock so Trump gets
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  Speaker 11: the blame. Our only hope is that the Iran war
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  Speaker 11: will end soon, preferably through a consistent and suffocating economic blockade.
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  Speaker 11: Oil prices will plummet, and the underlying strength of the
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  Speaker 11: Trump economy will help less divisive Republicans win in 2028.
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  Speaker 11: That's a reasonable hope. Meantime, though, since Ainsley and I
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  Speaker 11: worked the polls yesterday, well into the night, and then
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  Speaker 11: I had to come home to learn about this.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I'm going to go back to sleep and hopefully have
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  Speaker 11: some sweet dreams. What do you say, my friend?
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. You know, today, I always hate
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  Speaker 1: waking up on Election Day, and I really wasn't optimistic.
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  Speaker 1: I even said it out loud on the radio that
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  Speaker 1: day in spite of Tom Zawistowski's convincing argument that it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a red wave like crazy. Obviously, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not hearing from Tom this morning, but I wasn't optimistic.
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  Speaker 1: I woke up this morning early. And I just could
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  Speaker 1: not go back to sleep, even though I had some
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  Speaker 1: time on my hands to do so. And normally I
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  Speaker 1: will roll over and enjoy the rest of my bedtime.
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  Speaker 1: But I had to get up and check the cell
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  Speaker 1: phone and the headlines. It's like, oh, Lord, there it is.
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  Speaker 1: Governor Amy Acton, Sherrod Brown wins. Greg Lansman wins. All
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  Speaker 1: of the Republican judicial races in Hamilton County were lost.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats have those seats. And it was just my heart
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  Speaker 1: just sunk. But that's the reality. We're going to have
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  Speaker 1: to live through it. And we will. of course, love
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  Speaker 1: to fight another day. I just don't think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a pretty outcome because, Jack, I heard the Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: you know, evil orange man check. No problem there. And
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  Speaker 1: they obviously a lot of Republicans are upset. But also
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  Speaker 1: the argument about the affordability of gasoline and inflation, generally speaking,
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  Speaker 1: all of them promising that they're going to address it
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  Speaker 1: and that they care about it and they're concerned about it,
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  Speaker 1: but not saying anything specific about how they're going to
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  Speaker 1: deal with it. How are they going to make the
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  Speaker 1: price of gasoline more affordable? I don't know.
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  Speaker 11: They'll be claiming in just a few minutes, if they
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  Speaker 11: haven't already started, that they won't be able to do
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  Speaker 11: anything until they win the White House in 2028. I've
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  Speaker 11: heard that. While we're still doing this post-mortem, we have
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  Speaker 11: to admit as well. And MAGA friends that I have,
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  Speaker 11: and I'm MAGA when it comes to the issues. They
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  Speaker 11: don't like to hear this. But Trump made some terrible,
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  Speaker 11: insulting personal picks in these midterms. Most egregiously, Texas Attorney
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  Speaker 11: General Ken Paxton. who had been impeached for bribery and
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  Speaker 11: other corruption in 2023 by 61 Democrats and 60 Republicans.
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  Speaker 11: It was always a mistake to call Texas red when
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  Speaker 11: all the big cities were socialist blue. You've been talking
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  Speaker 11: about this, the fact that cities in Ohio, including now
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  Speaker 11: Cincinnati and all of Hamilton County, have turned socialists. So
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  Speaker 11: we're going to have to live with the consequences.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned Texas, and I think it's also worth observing,
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  Speaker 1: and just my observations, it appears that Trump lost the
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  Speaker 1: coalition of Hispanic voters that were really solidly in favor
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  Speaker 1: of him, at least substantially more than they had previously been.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at the southwest, you go from the
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  Speaker 1: southernmost tip of Texas all the way through over to
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  Speaker 1: the farthest western county, And slightly northward, all of it
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  Speaker 1: is solid blue. And it wasn't quite that way previously.
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  Speaker 1: So I think he lost the Hispanic coalition. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of commentators are observing that he lost a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the black vote, too, compared to last time.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah. And by the way, a new poll that's come
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  Speaker 11: out from NBC, and you can say, well, it's NBC,
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  Speaker 11: but they turned out to be right about a lot
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  Speaker 11: of things. Trump apparently lost a lot of white men.
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  Speaker 11: When it comes to Texas and the South, we're hearing reports.
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  Speaker 11: I don't know if they're just anecdotal or what. but
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  Speaker 11: that a lot of Hispanics were concerned about the way
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  Speaker 11: that ICE has been acting, especially the way it acted
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  Speaker 11: in the first few months when we had Kristi Noem. Again,
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  Speaker 11: it's like tariffs for me. I have no problem with
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  Speaker 11: tariffs per se if they're reciprocal and they follow established law.
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  Speaker 11: But Trump, as we've discussed in the past, was hurling
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  Speaker 11: thunderbolts and you had no idea what was going on.
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  Speaker 11: And it led, as the Iran war has led, And
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  Speaker 11: as the enforcement techniques of ICE have led to uncertainty,
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  Speaker 11: we have constant uncertainty under Trump. And that roils the
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  Speaker 11: markets and it leaves people out of work.
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  Speaker 1: It does indeed do that. And, you know, honestly, some
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  Speaker 1: of the campaign promises he made that he turned his
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  Speaker 1: back on. I mean, OK, let's let's look at the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein files just as one illustration. He campaigned on releasing them.
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  Speaker 1: The next thing you know, he did a complete 180.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people are question marking that one.
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  Speaker 1: But also, I will never be in wars. No more
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  Speaker 1: forever wars. Well, we're in one that looks like it
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  Speaker 1: may very well be a forever war. God knows how
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  Speaker 1: long it's going to last. Even if it's this battle
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  Speaker 1: of blockade attrition, we're going to have a presence and
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  Speaker 1: a large footprint there to keep the blockade in place.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to be a very costly endeavor. And the
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  Speaker 1: Iranians have made good on their promises to blow up
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  Speaker 1: American interests, most notably the billions of dollars in damage
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  Speaker 1: they've already done to our multiple military bases in the area.
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  Speaker 1: That's not going to stop.
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  Speaker 11: But Brian, talking about blowing up, I do believe, and
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  Speaker 11: the Iranians have never denied this, that Steve Witkoff was
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  Speaker 11: told by Iranian negotiators back before the February 28th bombing
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  Speaker 11: of the Iranian nuclear facilities that they had enough highly
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  Speaker 11: enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs. I didn't blame
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  Speaker 11: Trump in June of 2025. For his initial strikes, I
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  Speaker 11: didn't blame him in February. But you couldn't let this
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  Speaker 11: drag on, and that's what's still happening.
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  Speaker 1: It's out of our hands. I mean, unless we just
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  Speaker 1: walk away. I mean, I don't see how we can
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  Speaker 1: do it. I mean, militarily speaking, I keep going back
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  Speaker 1: to all the information I've gotten about our capabilities of
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  Speaker 1: actually getting down and blowing up what remains of the
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  Speaker 1: nuclear enriched uranium or whatever's left of their nuclear program,
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  Speaker 1: like Pickaxe Mountain. We just don't have ammunition that can
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  Speaker 1: do it unless we want to go nuclear. So how
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  Speaker 1: do we do that? Are we going to put boots
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  Speaker 1: on the ground and get into one of these really
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  Speaker 1: bloody wars? And it certainly would be bloody. I can't
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  Speaker 1: see that as a viable option. Economic sanctions are working.
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  Speaker 1: They're struggling mightily under the weight of their own hyperinflation,
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  Speaker 1: the devaluation of their currency and lack of ability to
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  Speaker 1: sell what the only asset they really have, which is oil.
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  Speaker 1: But they're tenacious people and they've got God on their side.
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  Speaker 1: At least they believe they do. And that's a tough, tough,
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  Speaker 1: tough hill to climb when you are You're not fighting
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  Speaker 1: a religious war on your side. I just don't know, Jack.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see any simple solution on this.
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  Speaker 11: There's nothing simple about it. But, you know, I wish
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  Speaker 11: in retrospect we'd enlisted more allies, that we had the
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  Speaker 11: use of the British Navy and things like that. And
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  Speaker 11: we are getting oil now out of the Strait of Hormuz.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, we are.
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  Speaker 11: And the Gulf is opening up also. But, you know,
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  Speaker 11: we've just been back and forth and back and forth.
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  Speaker 11: And I fear that's going to continue.
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  Speaker 13: It is.
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  Speaker 1: There was just an article this morning. The Iranians are
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  Speaker 1: still using limpid mines and, you know, drones and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: small but very accurate missiles to continue strikes. And they
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  Speaker 1: have an abundance of those socked away in a multitude
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  Speaker 1: of locations. And whether or not we know where those are,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. But we do know. But they can
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  Speaker 1: always start from scratch at the next house next over.
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  Speaker 1: It's that easy to create those drones from all I've heard.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very it's an easy operation, unlike manufacturing Patriot missiles. Oh, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: I wish we had all the answers to all the
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  Speaker 1: problems of the world, but tomorrow is another day, is
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  Speaker 1: it not?
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  Speaker 11: Well, according to Scarlett O'Hara, yes. But as many people
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  Speaker 11: said last night, and I hope I don't get bleeped
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  Speaker 11: for this, frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a lot to be thankful for, Jack Atherton.
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  Speaker 1: We all do. We can look past this and pray
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  Speaker 1: for a better future. Just be thankful. We can look
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  Speaker 1: around and know we were born in the United States
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  Speaker 1: of America. We still get to live here. It's still
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  Speaker 1: the greatest country in the world. And the only thing
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  Speaker 1: standing in the way of us and our ongoing greatness is, well,
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  Speaker 1: socialism and communism, Jack. Democrats are going to have to
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  Speaker 1: work that out.
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  Speaker 11: Supposedly, you know, the country has repudiated that, but they
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  Speaker 11: haven't suffered the consequences yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming. It's coming. Jack Atherton, my dear friend,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your commentary every week. I'll
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  Speaker 1: look forward to next Wednesday in another edition of The
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  Speaker 1: Big Picture. Take care, my friend. Best of health and
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  Speaker 1: love to you and your better half.
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  Speaker 21: 729.
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  Speaker 1: Californication, Joe?
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  Speaker 7: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Brian Thomas welcoming me back to the 55KRC Morning
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  Speaker 1: Show with an out loud question. Well, now what? Donovan
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  Speaker 1: Neal from Americans for Prosperity. Welcome back, my friend. Let
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  Speaker 1: me first start by thanking you and AFP and all
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  Speaker 1: the folks that you got to go on this wonderful
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  Speaker 1: door knocking trip through the state of Ohio. About a
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  Speaker 1: million doors knocked on roughly somewhere in there. And I
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  Speaker 1: know you did all you could to get people to
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  Speaker 1: think about this election and vote in their own best interest. Apparently,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't get the message. Donovan, it's great to have
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  Speaker 1: you back on. Brian, that's very kind of you.
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  Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean, our team did phenomenal work, right? Grassroots
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  Speaker 21: out there was dialed in, focused up.
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  Speaker 22: And, you know, that's what you go do. You got
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  Speaker 22: to go prosecute that case to the voters.
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  Speaker 21: And, you know, in this case, you know, voters were
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  Speaker 21: looking for answers on cost of living. They gave Republicans
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  Speaker 21: two years to deliver. And while, you know, things like
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  Speaker 21: the working family tax cut helped in the other side
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  Speaker 21: of the ledger, right, a reckless war, tariffs and a
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  Speaker 21: lack of focus in some cases on those kitchen table
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  Speaker 21: issues across the country, right?
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  Speaker 22: Voters sent a message.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they did. And the most hilarious and sad point
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  Speaker 1: about this, the Democrats end up moving forward with their
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  Speaker 1: green agenda policy. They're the ones that wanted gasoline to
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  Speaker 1: be more expensive anyway through legislation. Now they got it
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  Speaker 1: through economics and they got what they wanted and they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to turn their back on their green agenda.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine that, Donovan.
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  Speaker 21: No, but, you know, again, talking about, you know, our
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  Speaker 21: leadership's focus is on our volunteers and something I've, you know,
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  Speaker 21: they've been sending us messages and I've been thinking about
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  Speaker 21: that and talking with our team about it. So I
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  Speaker 21: bring that up, right, is, yeah, we're going to hold
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  Speaker 21: those folks accountable, right, on that agenda, right? Voters believe, obviously,
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  Speaker 21: based on these results, that the Democrat Party has answers
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  Speaker 21: to the affordability problems they're facing. But we've got to
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  Speaker 21: hold them accountable to follow through on that, not in
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  Speaker 21: the big government socialism environment. you know, answers to the
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  Speaker 21: affordability problem, but the freedom and liberty answers.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of the points I made before, and it's
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  Speaker 1: an easy point to make, everybody's making it, you said
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  Speaker 1: that people believed the Democrats have answers to the affordability problem.
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  Speaker 1: All the Democrat campaigns were all about affordability and evil
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  Speaker 1: orange men, boiling it down to the two most prominent
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  Speaker 1: points that they all advance. They never answer the question, how?
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  Speaker 1: It's just, It's like Donald Trump before the election. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to bring down inflation on day one. How, Mr.
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  Speaker 8: Trump?
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  Speaker 1: How can you do that? It just was a dumb
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  Speaker 1: campaign pledge. I said it early on at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Here we are. He didn't. One man couldn't. So pivoting
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  Speaker 1: over to the Democrats, what are they going to do
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  Speaker 1: that allows them to say we're going to tackle this inflation,
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  Speaker 1: this affordability problem? I haven't seen it anywhere, Donovan. Did
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  Speaker 1: I miss something?
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  Speaker 22: No, I don't think you missed anything there.
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  Speaker 21: I mean, the answer is, you know, give us more control,
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  Speaker 21: more power, us being, you know, the Democrat Party and
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 21: especially the socialist wing of the Democrat Party. But I think,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 21: you know, there's two things I think we've seen out there. One,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 21: and you hit on them spot on there, Brian, right?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 21: One is there were a number of voters, right? We
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 21: identified those folks back in a memo we released in
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 21: April saying there is a core part of the Republican
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 21: Party that is dissatisfied with the job the president's doing
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 21: and the and, you know, they are inclined to vote
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 21: the other way. I talked to a voter in Galleon, Ohio,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 21: a couple of weeks ago, just a week ago, actually,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 21: who was frustrated with that and is, you know, viewing
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 21: this election as a referendum.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 22: So that's one.
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  Speaker 21: Two, they're looking for solutions on affordability, right? And so
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 21: the pendulum swings and the voters swing it the other
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 21: direction to see if, you know, the blue party can
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 21: deliver for them. But you're right, the the solutions there
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 21: are yet to.
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  Speaker 22: Be filled in. And, you know, I think that's where.
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  Speaker 21: The alarming part is, is what those policies could be,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 21: can be incredibly damaging and not the actual solution, long-term
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 21: solution to the problems that face this country.
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  Speaker 1: Well, policies that may come about through legislation, which they,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: now that they control the House and the Senate, they
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: can probably get whatever legislation is through, but they don't
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: have a veto-approved majority. And so Donald Trump will just
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: veto whatever they put through. So I think we're looking
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: at two years of gridlock Of course, two years of
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: gridlock will allow the Democrats to advance the argument, well,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: we would have been able to accomplish something but for
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: evil orange man wielding his veto pen, so you've got
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: to give us the presidency in 2028 or we're never
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: going to accomplish our grand ideas to control your lives. So,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it looks to me like, given all
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: the pronouncements from the Democrats that are currently in Congress,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: get ready for this wave of subpoenas, get ready for,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: you know, criminal investigations and yada, yada, yada. So, I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: think that's what we're staring at, Donovan, unless I've misread
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: the landscape.
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  Speaker 21: I hope that's not what we're staring at. I think
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 21: you're probably more right to realize there's O'Brien as usual.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 21: But I think, you know, they think if the Democrats
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 21: do that, right, that's why we're going to hold them
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 21: accountable to the affordability message that folks care about around housing, energy,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 21: the economy. Because if that if it is two years
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 21: of two more years of D.C.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Dysfunction, right.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 21: Working families are gonna still be suffering, right? The national
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 21: debt's gonna go up. Our energy problems are not gonna
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 21: get any better. And that's not what I think, having
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 21: been somebody who's talked to a lot of voters at
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 21: the doors over the years, that's not something that the
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 21: voters are looking to reward, but it's gonna take strong,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 21: clear leadership from the minority party now, the Republicans, right?
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 21: And it's going to take Democrats pushing back against the
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 21: more extreme wings of their party, right, to make sure
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 21: that you can craft an agenda. And it's possible that
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 21: helps actually solve the problems facing this nation on energy, economy,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 21: and housing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's bring you back, Donovan. We'll talk about a
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: couple more political points and the outcome of this. We'll
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: call it Republican bloodbath if you want to be honest
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: about it. More with Donovan O'Neill from Americans for Prosperity.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Hang on, brother. It's seven 35 right now. 55 care
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: CD talk station. Let me recommend strongly. Excuse me for
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: the cough. Brian Thomas with Donovan Neal Americans for prosperity.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Don't a little post-mortem here. Donovan Neal. I haven't seen
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: any specific numbers and I'm thinking about the state of
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Ohio primarily, but obviously it was a huge turnout by
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: all accounts, all the, all the poll information. I know
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: my polling place was packed. Everyone I've talked to said
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: it was packed. Um, did the Republicans turn out? Have
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: you seen any, you know, statistics or numbers on the
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: registered voters versus the ones that showed up? Because I
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: have a feeling so many people are concluding this and
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: you can count me among them that this was more
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: a referendum on, you know, evil orange man than it
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: really was about any given race, most notably the governor's
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: race in the state of Ohio. Your thoughts?
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 22: Yeah, no, I haven't seen any numbers yet.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 21: I'm sure we'll have some of that and happy to
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 21: come back, you know, in a future segment and talk
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 21: about that down the line.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 22: But I think, um, Yeah.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 21: Well, you know, again, I think, you know, we, we
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 21: were spending a lot of time this year talking to
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 21: voters in that persuasion universe, right.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 22: Because we were finding, right. Where these, these truly.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 21: Independent voters, they voted Republican last election and they were,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 21: you know, with the price of gas and where things
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 21: were just not feeling like the Republican party was doing
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 21: it for them. And so I think, you know, that
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 21: independent vote has a lot of influence. We also saw
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 21: early in the cycle, right. Um, low enthusiasm with, you know, even,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 21: you know, what you consider base Republican voters. Mahoning County,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 21: I'll point to where I grew up, right? Since 2016,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 21: it's voted 60-40 Republican. I voted, I think, 51% for
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 21: Amy Act and 52% for Sherrod Brown, right?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 22: Areas that President Trump consistently wins.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 21: Moved back to the democrat party where they had been
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 21: previously for three decades.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: So that shows i think i'm hearing you say that
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: the independent voters are swayable that they're because they haven't
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: established you know a loyalty to any of the two
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: parties that you know they're easy targets for either side
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: to go after so trump didn't deliver or trump brought
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: war or whatever and And that just pushed the independent
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: back over probably fairly easily to the side maybe he
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: or she came from originally, the Democrats. I don't know,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: but they're clearly not loyal, the independents, but they're the
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: ones that seem to determine elections anymore these days.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 21: Well, yeah, and I think it's– again, there wasn't really
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 21: a clear alternative from Republicans. They'd hear proposals that were
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 21: a lot like the left, $ 5, 000 government checks, federal stakes
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 21: in private companies.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 21: You know, we saw the polling that, you know, voters
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 21: on one hand do not like socialism, right? And we
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 21: know that's rising in the Democrat party, but at the
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 21: same time, they dislike these tariffs, right?
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 22: They dislike the.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 21: The, the lack of results that was, you know, were
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 21: being achieved in terms of the cost of living question.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 21: And so, yeah, I think they're persuadable, but you know,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 21: they also, you're only renting them, right?
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 22: You're only renting these voters. You have to go get
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 22: them every, every two years.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 21: And, The policies that we've got out there right now,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 21: we're not doing it. But that's why organizations like ours exist, right, Brian?
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 21: We will remain focused on those policies we believe are
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 21: going to actually get the results, not the socialism light
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 21: that voters just aren't interested in.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: Well, and the other, I guess, a complicating factor, not
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: that I'm concerned at all about the Democrats' challenges, but
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I think part of the reason, again, you have evil
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: orange man argument, but then you also have this war.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people on both sides of the
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: political ledger are angry or upset about it. They don't
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: believe it was necessary, but are obviously having to deal
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: with the aftermath, which didn't go away as quickly as
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump kept promising. So I guess, what are the
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: Democrats left? How are they going to deal with the challenges?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: If they just walk away from the situation, or that's
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: what they're ultimately able to accomplish, then I don't see
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: that as bringing the price of oil down, the price
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: of gasoline down, because that basically leaves the Iranians in
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: control of the strait, and they can do whatever they
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: damn well please.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 21: Yeah, well, I think getting a.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 22: Quick resolution of that war is probably job number one.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 21: And it's the fact that we've been dealing with this since, what, February,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 21: March of this year without.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 22: Any end in sight.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 21: That came up a lot at the doors, right? And
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 21: it's something that has compounding impacts. We also have an opportunity, though, thinking.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 15: About energy, right?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 21: Aside from the Iran war and how that wraps up
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 21: hopefully here soon is permitting reform, right? Republicans still have
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 21: control of Washington till January. We've got permitting reform out
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 21: of the House, into the Senate. There's bipartisan aspects to that. Certainly,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 21: Chuck Schumer and the Democrats have a lot of leverage
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 21: right now because they can just wait the clock out, right,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 21: until they have power in January. But that's something we
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 21: could get done in the next four to six weeks.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 21: That can solve our decades-long energy problems. We can finally
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 21: modernize our energy permitting and regulatory policies for the first
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 21: time since the 1970s. We can get that done as well.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 21: We'll see if the willpower is there to have folks
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 21: fly into D.C.
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  Speaker 1: And get it done, though. Well, I hope they do.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe they can vote on the SAVE Act while they're
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: at it. Well, you got that as well.
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  Speaker 18: I mean, there's a lot of open items.
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  Speaker 21: You know, the morning after an election, especially an election
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 21: with a loss, always feels a bit rough.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 7: But it's a pendulum, right?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 22: Folks can get out there and keep working.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 21: And then, you know, we still have the policies that,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 21: you know, these folks have to be.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Held accountable to.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 22: And that's what that's what we do here.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: And you're not giving up. Are you, Donovan O'Neill from
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity?
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 6: Never.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 21: Our folk, you know, we've got a long-term perspective on
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 21: these things. From the Statehouse in Columbus to Washington, D.C.,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 21: our folks are going to remain committed and dialed in
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 21: on the things that matter. And that's what makes Americans
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 21: for Prosperity the greatest right-of-center grassroots organization.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: And again, on behalf of my listening audience and for
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: me personally, thank you very much for all the hard
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: work you did. It's not an easy task, but you
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: were able to get people up off their butts, out
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: into the world, interacting with their neighbors and friends and
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: talking about these important issues. And I think it's a
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: noble task that you took on, and you did a
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: great job. In spite of the loss, keep it up,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: and we will have you on regularly as we approach 2028.
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  Speaker 1: It's right there. You can so close you can taste it,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: isn't it, Donovan?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 15: No, no, no, Brian.
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  Speaker 9: I know.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Give me a couple days. Take a couple of days vacation.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Donovan O'Neill, Americas for Prosperity. God bless you. 750, a
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: 55-karat CD talk station. It's Wednesday. I have a tough
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: time saying happy Wednesday today. Yes, you can go and
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: have some schadenfreude, my Democrat friends. That's okay. We've had
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: that feeling before in prior elections, like after Barack Obama
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: got shellacked in 2010. And yes, Drew Pappas, who said
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: he's going to be at lunch today, which is at
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Anderson Pub and Grill, his Facebook page, there would be
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: no Governor Acton without Mike DeWine. And that is a fact. Well,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: you didn't even have to add the and that is
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: a fact. Of course, that is a demonstrably true statement.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: Over to the phones. Let's see what Kevin's got. Jeff,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: hang on. You're next. Kevin, thanks for calling today.
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  Speaker 13: Well, Brian, it looks as though America was exhausted. This
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 13: wasn't just a wave. This was a tsunami. This was
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 13: the biggest defeat in 60 years. Fuentes is telling his
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 13: listeners now. Trump had a coalition, Brian. He had the House.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 13: He had the Senate, had a 6-3 Supreme Court, a
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 13: popular vote victory. He squandered it on a war, an illegal,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 13: unjust war, the most unpopular war in American history. And
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 13: the voters had enough. I'd like to get your thoughts
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 13: on this, Brian.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 13: What we do.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, what more can you say than you're right?
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was against the whole conflict to start
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: with because we have a Constitution that requires war to
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: be declared by Congress. It didn't happen. We've got a
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: War Powers Act, and you're supposed to give notice, and
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: then after 90 days, then you pull the plug. If
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: you don't have specific congressional approval, we don't have an
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: emergency use authorization, or we don't have a use of
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: force declaration either. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You're right, Brian.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 8: Great point.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 13: Great point. Thank you.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: This is why I felt alone. I still feel alone, Kevin,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: on that point because I am a believer in the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: highest law of the land, which is the Constitution. And
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: I really think the War Powers Resolution is unconstitutional delegation
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: of power. So had we, and this is every president
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: since blank and since FDR got out of office, every
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: president has done this. There has never been a check
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: on it. And it really irks me. Had we had
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: a discussion and a debate in advance and thoroughly thought
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: this out and hashed it out and had people arguing
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: in favor or against, maybe we would have come up
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: with a better result. I don't know. But now we're
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: stuck in a quagmire.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 8: 100%.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 13: I agree with you 100%. And I'd like to say this, Brian.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 13: Joe Kent had mentioned this. Of course, he was the
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 13: former head of the counterterror unit. He resigned in disgust
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 13: of launching this war. He said that all 18... U.S.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 13: intelligence agencies, not one or two, all 18 said no
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 13: nuclear threat Iran posed to us. All 18. People, there
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 13: should be heads rolling, Brian. And I'm glad we agree
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 13: on the Constitution and the War Powers Act. And I
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 13: thank you very much for your time this morning.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin. It's an excellent point you make. And
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: there's some people out there going, hell no, hell no.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: Iran was going to blow us up with a nuclear weapon.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: They're going to use it. We know that. Jack Atherton
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: feels that way. I have no way of knowing. I
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: just know that there are more measured approaches to take
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: to opening an all-out war with someone. And honestly, I
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: really truly believe, whether Netanyahu convinced Trump about decapitating the
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: Iranian leadership with that one bomb strike to kick it
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: all off, that that was going to end up being
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: like pulling Maduro out of Venezuela.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: And see, there's where advisors probably would have chimed in
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: and talked about the fundamentalist nature of the Iranians and
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: how their religion would hold them fast. in the face
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: of any type of challenge they met. I don't know.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: This is where we are right now, though. Question, how
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: we're going to resolve the conflict. And I don't know, personally,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: how we're going to resolve it. Who's next? Jeff, thanks
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: for calling this morning. Maureen, hang on. You may have
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: to hold over, but I definitely want to hear from you. Jeff,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: welcome to the program, sir.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 8: Good morning, Brian.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: As always, you and Joe are true patriots, buddy.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I appreciate that. What's on your mind?
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: What's your take, Jeff?
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I didn't get to really look at
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: it until about 11 o'clock because I was just so
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: busy with work and stuff. But I didn't get to
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: see if there was anything funny around 9 o'clock or
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: whatever like they seem to always do. But let's say
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: that everything's on the up and up and I just
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: can't believe people are so short-sighted that they didn't understand
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: why they voted for him in the first place two
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: years ago when we had four years of just utter pointless,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: leaderless everything. And now I'm just worried that people are
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: just not They're just not looking at the long-term side
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: of the Democrat Party.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: No, they're not.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: And then also I was pretty disgusted for the last
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: two years of how pathetic the Republican-controlled Senate and the
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: Republican-controlled House was. I mean, it seemed like we had
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: no leadership in McCarthy. We had no leadership in Thune.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, both of them acted like liberal lapdogs. I mean,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: I was not impressed with either of them, and they
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: couldn't get a single thing done. And every single time
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: they didn't get anything done, they just went away to vacation, said, well, sorry,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: we couldn't get anything accomplished, but We'll be back as
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: soon as we get back from vacation. And I just, oh, man,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: I'm just so disgusted that they just were just so
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: weak and so nothing. Well, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Well, since we're looking for bright spots in this dreary
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: reality we're facing this morning, maybe Republicans will select more competent, less, oh,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know, rhino-like, personal, self-interested candidates to run. And
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: we'll focus on the primaries a little bit more next time, too.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: I know Jay is out there listening, going, yeah, you're right, Thomas.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: I've been telling you that for how many years? Anyhow,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: keep up. Stay positive, Jeff. It isn't the end of
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: the world. It may be a different landscape we're going
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: to face for a couple of years, but we've lived
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: through these challenges before, and we can do it again. Maureen,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: I really hope you hold over the break there. 806
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: at 55KRC, the talk station. Ryan Thomas, host of the
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: 55KRC Morning Show. Of course, feeling bad about the elections. This, too,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: shall pass. Question of when. And some time, a couple
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: of segments here, open lines for you to comment, maybe
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: get your thoughts and analysis of the election. Why do
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: you think it went so poorly for the Republicans? A
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: lot of people are, I think it really, really, really, personally,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: I believe it was driven by just this animosity toward
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. A lot of broken campaign promises for some
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: of the Republicans out there. Of course, we have the
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: war and its impact on the economy. You can't deny that.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: Whether or not you think it was appropriate, lawful, legal,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: or whatever, for the president to start dropping bombs on
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: the Iranians, this is a practical result of it. You
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: take the good with the bad. So when the war
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: will end, that's a legitimate question. Napolitana is going to,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: of course, have a couple of comments on that at
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. In the meantime, though, terrible
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: outcome here in the state of Ohio. Yes, we have
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: to say, after her swearing in, Governor Amy Acton. Governor
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Amy Acton. And that's probably the biggest heartbreak for me
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: this morning. But I'd love to hear from you. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Maureen Held. Maureen, thanks for holding over the break. It's
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: always good to hear from you.
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  Speaker 23: Good morning, Brian. I understand everybody's disappointment. And I think
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 23: it's not a foregone conclusion that the results that we're
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 23: hearing about now are actually going to hold through the
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 23: end of the year. Because I think the results of
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 23: this election are.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 13: Far from over.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 23: And what's important to remember, it's key, and you're going
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 23: to be hearing a lot about it, is Trump's Executive
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 23: Order 13848. It was signed in September of 2018, and
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 23: he just recently re-upted this past August. And what this
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 23: does is it involves the 45 days following an election,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 23: which involves both election verification and federal intelligence assessments that
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 23: have to be done. And they're done to establish a process.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 23: for investigating whether a foreign government or someone acting on
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 23: its behalf attempted to interfere in a U.S.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 8: Election.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 23: And how it works is the Director of National Intelligence,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 23: which is Jay Clayton, and he works with the intelligence agencies,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 23: and they have to assess available information, whether a foreign
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 23: government or its agents attempted to interfere in our elections.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 23: So that brings us to, they have to say whether
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 23: foreign interference involved individuals or organizations within the United States.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 23: So that brings me to one of my favorite congresswomen
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 23: in Florida, which is Ana Paulina Luna. And she was
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 23: on mainstream media, and she had this exact quote. And
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 23: her quote is, let's see where we go. Here it says,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 23: the Democratic Socialists of America are being funded by the
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 23: Chinese Communist Party and foreign interests. And she didn't say maybe.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 23: She didn't say allegedly. She said it is outright. The
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 23: DSA is absolutely funded and tied to the Communist Party.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 23: Which brings us to mega-donor Neville Roy Singham, who is
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 23: currently under DOJ investigation, and he's pouring money into Marxist networks,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 23: teaming up with the Party of Socialists and Liberation to
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 23: target moderate Democrats and flip seats. And then this is
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 23: foreign interference, infiltration, and a direct threat. So that brings
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 23: us to this 45 days. That'll bring us to December 18th.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 23: This has to be submitted, and it goes through several channels.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 23: It goes to Secretaries of State, Treasury, Defense, Homeland Security,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 23: and the Attorney General. And they will be, they have
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 23: by law, have to do this assessment and give us
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 23: the results.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this. How in God's name
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: would this be, could this impact any, give any individual election?
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: I'll concede, and I believe in my heart of hearts,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: that there was interference. Singham was gathering a bunch of
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: foreign campaign dollars and bundling them and throwing them out
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: into the world. We've got all these, you know, this
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: grandma who doesn't have anything but Social Security being attributed
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: $ 150, 000 in campaign donations for Democrats. There's all kinds of
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: stink floating around on this, Maureen. But so, collectively, he
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: pumped billions of dollars into the election to sway and
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: influence people online. We have the Chinese Communist Party and
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: their bot farms, suede peoples on TikTok and other social media.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: So generally speaking, let's say that there was interference. How
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: does that translate to, well, changing the outcome of any
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: given election?
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  Speaker 23: Because let's just throw it out there. I'm not saying
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 23: this is the case, but just as an example. Amy Acton,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 23: let's say she got money from someone that Neville Roy
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 23: Singham funneled money through. I know she got $ 500, 000 from
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 23: Pritzker and she got, you know, maybe they're tracking people's donation,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 23: where they got their donations from. And if they trace
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 23: back to him, then therefore their candidacy is null and
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 23: void because of that executive order 13848. And that's important.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 23: These 45 days are going to be key. I know
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 23: I said there was going to be a big October surprise.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 23: I think it's now November, December surprise. And that's where
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 23: we're going to have to pay really close attention. A
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 23: lot of information is going to come out. And if
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 23: it doesn't, and we get to December 19th and none
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 23: of this happens, then I'm saying, I don't think I'm
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 23: ever going to call you again. I'm going to hang
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 23: it up. I am done.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I know. It didn't quite go.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 23: It didn't happen.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: The 2020 election didn't go quite the way you anticipated
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: it going, resulting in a contribution to the Alzheimer's Foundation,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: which I appreciate.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 14: That's that.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: I would have been happy to have lost that bet, Maureen,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: but here we are, fast forward almost seven years and
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: no change. But okay, mark this day. Maureen's called it
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: 45 days. I'm pessimistic, if I may be, obviously stated
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: out loud, because if you can show that there was
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: some money influence coming in, again, tracing it directly to
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: a candidate, I think there'd have to be some measure
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: of burden of proof that the evidentiary challenges abound and
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: of course there's going to be massive litigation over even
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: the executive order so I don't see that resolving itself
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: anytime soon even if there's demonstrated foreign influence Maureen I
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: know you'll be on top of it and you know
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: how to reach me take care of yourself get back
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: to that get back to that grandbaby you got something
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: to be thankful for as well you got a grandbaby
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: to take care of let's get to Steve Steve thanks
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: for calling this morning welcome to the morning.
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  Speaker 20: Show Brian thanks for taking my call Yeah, bummed out
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 20: like everybody else, still trying to figure out what exactly happened.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 20: But one thing I wanted to have you maybe listen
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 20: to and your viewers is yesterday when we went to vote,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 20: of course, at Butler County, I live in Butler County,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 20: there were several ballot initiatives. The first one was, of course,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 20: the voter ID. Then there were about three or four
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 20: tax levies after that. Well, there was an abnormality where
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 20: the first, the voter ID, requirement, it was worded long
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 20: enough that you had to scroll down in order to
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 20: say yes or no. It was the only one you
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 20: had to do that. Tax levies were all on one page.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 20: So my wife, my wife's mother, both almost made the
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 20: mistake of just hitting next and then hitting yes.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 17: Oh.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 20: So in other words, I had a paper ballot. Yes
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 20: to the voter ID requirement, instead of scrolling down, which
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 20: it's a small bar that says scroll down, they hit next,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 20: and they're getting ready to punch yes onto the tax levy.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: Gotcha.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 20: So guess what happens? The tax levy in Butler County
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 20: won 61 to 39 this year, when just last year
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 20: it got defeated two to one. Like 65-35. How does
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 20: that happen in one year?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe there is an issue.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 20: How does that happen? And as soon as I kind
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 20: of voiced my concerns at the polling place, there was
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 20: a minder that came up to me immediately and started
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 20: making excuses and saying, no, no, the lawyers look at
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 20: all of this, blah, blah, blah. Almost like she knew
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 20: that this could be an issue or was an issue.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 20: I think it was done on purpose.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 8: You may very well.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: So as I understand the way you're saying you have
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: a screen which shows your ballot and you vote with
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: a click. Well, it's got a paper ballot in front
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: of me. You know, they take your hand, your ballot.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: Don't forget front and back. And of course, the the
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: the the issue three was just plainly stated on one
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: single page. I knew I was voting anyway. So no
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: shenanigans by way of my ballot. Yours obviously was different
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: in that regard.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 20: I think we're using those good old Dominion machines or something.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 13: But it's a fact.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 20: You don't see what's getting voted for. You just hit
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 20: next or yes or no. It's weird because there's three
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 20: or four tax initiatives after it. They're all neatly on
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 20: one page. The first one that came along was the
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 20: tax levy that they've been trying to pass for.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 8: Years and failed.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 20: It was worded long enough that you had to scroll down.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 20: You had to take an extra step to even see
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 20: the yes or no.
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  Speaker 1: Steve, which levy? Because I'm looking at the ballot outcome
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: in Butler County. I'm staring at it right now. The
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: issue three was 50.64. Issue three was the voter ID.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 7: Hold on.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Issue two, Latoda tax schools. Yes, it passed 51.4 to 48.6.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 13: Yeah, and that's the one where.
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  Speaker 20: I believe people may have just skipped over the voter
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 20: ID because they're hitting next.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 13: They're not hitting scroll down.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: You're the first person to alert me to it. I
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: wasn't aware that's the way you voted in your county,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: but maybe there's something to be said about what you're
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: pointing out. Obviously, that could certainly happen given your description
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: of it. Someone might want to look into that, but
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: here we are.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 13: Well, I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 20: Everybody in Butler County, $ 1, 000 a year. on your taxes
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 20: just got added onto your household budget. $ 1, 000 a year
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 20: for the average homeowner. Thank you, Election Committee.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: Well, whether or not it was the ballot process that
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: resulted in that, obviously not everyone made a mistake, and
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: there were enough people over there that really had no
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: problem with their taxes going up. This is a battle
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: we wage all the time, whether or not the ballot
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: is okay or, well, doesn't pass the smell test. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it, Steve. Have a good one. 816-55-KRC-D Talk Station. Dab,
• 1:51:52
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• 1:52:02
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• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Gerth at lunch. He's supposed to be there. I know
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Drew Pappas said he was going to show up. Westside Gym,
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: Cribbage Mike. A growing number of folks that are going
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: to prevent me from having to sit all by myself
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: at Anderson Pub and Grill and lament the outcome of
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: the election. Anyway, let's go to the phones. Deb, thanks
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: for calling this morning. Welcome to the show.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 17: Good morning. Thanks for having me on. I have a
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 17: couple comments for what Maureen said. First of all, I
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 17: don't think we're going to hear it by the 18th.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 17: The report is due on the 18th to confirm the election.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 17: And so if it doesn't happen, we wouldn't hear about
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 17: it until the 19th.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: Probably.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 17: The fact that we wouldn't even hear about it then...
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 17: We never heard about it in the 2000 of the
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 17: 2020 election.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 17: They never got that report to the president.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 9: Never.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 17: And that's why Trump has never relinquished that he lost
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 17: is because he knows the, the process has not been
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 17: followed and there was fraud. I know that's a bad
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 17: opinion to have, but the other thing that they looked
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 17: in those machines is, is to consider fraudulent is if
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 17: there are any foreign parts in that machine and there
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 17: are foreign parts so they can throw the whole election.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 17: They find, I mean, they're all made by the same
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 17: company made by, um, uh, well, And.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: If that's the problem with Maureen's argument, because how do
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: you unring the bell of any given election if there's
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: just widespread across the whole country foreign influence money flowing
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: into all these different campaigns? If an election machine is
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: demonstrably corrupt, then any election machines used in any of
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: those elections, those elections arguably could be thrown out and
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: have to be redone using non-corrupt machines. That's not going
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: to automatically result in.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: Paper ballot.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's what we have here in Hamilton County.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: I voted on one. Now, an electronic machine counted the ballot,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: but you know what? Back in the back, there is
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: a paper machine. So to the extent the election machine
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: is used in Hamilton County or here in Ohio or
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: called into question, they at least have a physical copy
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: of my ballot they can go back to. But you
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: could then redo an election. That would not automatically get
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: to the benefit of the opposition candidate unless you could
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: prove that whatever... corrupt component of the election machine caused
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: the vote to go for a Democrat, which you could prove.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: A lot of proof and a lot of evidence gathering
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: is going to happen between now and then. And honestly,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: since the federal government apparently is responsible for doing this
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: post-election analysis within 45 days, I've given up hope the
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: federal government can competently do anything, let alone under a
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: short window time frame like that. Thank you, Deb. Go
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: odor exit.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 6: Right, Deb?
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: Steve, welcome to the morning show. Well, try to make
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: it a happy Wednesday.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 10: We live in a great country. I mean, yeah, I'm disappointed,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 10: but there are so many positives in your life and
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 10: my life. I mean, we've really lived really good lives. But, yeah,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 10: I'm disappointed. I support Trump. And I'd say 75% of
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 10: the time I'm with him, I can see how he
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 10: ticks people off. He ticks people off that support him
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 10: like me when he goes off on these tangents. He
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 10: does different things. Darlene Graham in South Carolina. Yeah, let's
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 10: give away a Senate seat. I mean, I don't know
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 10: why he would. He never should endorse people in primaries anyway.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 10: But he, you know, Paxton in Texas because Trump endorsed
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 10: him in a primary. You know, but I honestly think
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 10: the biggest fault or not, not a fault, the biggest
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 10: reality of why I'm disappointed. I don't I think a
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 10: lot like you think. We don't think the way the
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 10: majority of the people in this country think anymore. It's
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 10: a shame. You can see, I mean, when the Republicans win,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 10: it's always a pushback, but it's a slight pushback. There's
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 10: a continuing decline just in our lifetimes we've seen it.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 10: I'm born in 62. I've seen things change. Oh, yeah.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 10: So it is what it is. We still live really
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 10: good lives. I've never given in to peer pressure. I'll
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 10: go out and vote conservative until the day I die.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 10: If we're lone individuals doing that, so be it. We
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 10: have the power in this country to still vote, express
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 10: what we believe. We didn't win. I mean, I've been
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 10: disappointed before.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 10: But, you know, life goes on, and we do have
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 10: really good lives.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 13: We really do.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 10: We're very lucky people.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there have been several callers this morning that
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: have pointed that very fact out, and I agree with
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: when you're dealing with a disaster like yesterday, you do
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: have to step back and realize, you know what, it
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: might suck, but we could all be in a hell
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: of a lot worse shape. Just pick any country in
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: the world. Thank you very much, Steve. Appreciate the call. Eddie,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: I apologize. 95KRC, the talk station. 8.30 on a Wednesday.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: It's that time of week with the benefit of Judge
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: Janet Napolitano's thoughtful legal analysis. Welcome back, Judge Janet Napolitano.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to have you on the 55
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: KRC Morning Show, my friend.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you, Brian. Pleasure to be with you. Boy,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: what a night last night.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And all the political pundits and
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: prognosticators are laying most of the blame on the shellacking
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: that the conservatives got yesterday. The Trump administration, of course, Republicans,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: the war. That is number one on everybody's list. Some
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: say tariffs, some say war. It's obviously the price of gasoline,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: which can be attributed in large part to the war,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: at least this temporary spike. You know, I mean, a.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: Month ago, Brian, would you have predicted that the governor
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: of Ohio would be a Democrat and the new U.S.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: senator would be the old timer or was rejected two
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: years ago?
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: Um, and so far as the ladder race is concerned,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: I would have gone a coin flip and I would
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: have said no way in hell the end. demonstrably so,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: Amy Acton versus the unbelievably competent and successful Vivek Ramaswamy.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: I thought there was no contest there, but obviously I've
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: been proven wrong. You know, I joked ahead of time,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: you know, November 4th, we're going to wake up the
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: headlines that Ohio's the laughingstock of the nation, but there
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: are so many other races that we could say that about.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: But that's my number one vote. Amy Acton, it just
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: breaks my heart. The only benefit we've got on that
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: one is that the House and Senate are still in
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Republican hands, so whatever she wants to do, of course,
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be signing into law legislation they pass,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: but at least that's the check we've got in Ohio.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the numbers nationwide are overwhelming.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, they are.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: Right now it appears that... the Democrats in the Senate
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: will be at least 54 to 46 and maybe 55
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: to 45. And in the House, my goodness, it looks
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: like it's going to be 255 Democrats to about 170 Republicans.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: I was listening to Kevin McCarthy, the former Speaker of
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: the House, who was famously or infamously, depending upon which
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: side of this you're on, ousted. by the folks that
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: delivered the speakership to Mike Johnson, say that it's impossible
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: to govern. It's impossible to do anything in the House
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: if you have fewer than 200 votes. And they're probably
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: going to have about 25, 200 seats. They're probably going
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: to have 25 fewer than 200 seats. It's a wipeout.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, without question. I don't think you can call it
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: anything but that. You know, I mean, Barack Obama suffered
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: a similar wipeout in 2010. And, of course, you know,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: the midterm elections typically go against the incumbent president. So
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: no surprise here. But just given how far left the
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: Democrat candidates have gotten in their embrace of the platform
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: from the DSA, which undermines our beloved Constitution, Judge Napolitano,
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: they want to wipe out.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: You're going to see the House of Representatives vote. pass
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: Medicare for all. And Trump will be and everybody who
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: was calling for the abolition of the filibuster will be
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: grateful that it exists because that'll prevent the Senate from
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: passing it.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, Trump has the veto pen. But Your Honor,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: this is what troubles me so much. You know, it's
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: like Marxism. If you talk about it in a hypothetical, broad,
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: philosophical context, oh, from each accordion's ability to each accordion's need,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: it sounds so wonderful. Oh, we're going to live in harmony.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: If you talk about Medicare for all, oh, great, Medicare
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: for all, we're all going to get equal medical care.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: No one addresses the damn price tag, $ 42 trillion. I mean,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: there's a range, but it's all like between $ 30 and $ 40.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: 80 trillion, so pick the middle comfortable number. It's massive
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: trillions of dollars. It's as much or more than our
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: total accrued national debt. It's just not possible.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right. I mean, and then Trump the night
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: before Election Day saying the U.S. is going to stop
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: giving money to Israel. I mean, that must have been
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: a campaign ploy. If he were serious, I would think
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: the Israel lobby would have jumped down his throat as
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: soon as he said that.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: Israel would collapse.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: Without um uh the funding that it gets from the u.s.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: Well it's already been allocated funding too from what i
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: heard i mean there's yeah.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: So it's hard it's hard to uh figure out what
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: he what he meant by that and the israeli press
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: of course said that the netanyahu government didn't know what trump.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: Was talking about he said he'd been talking about you
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: know it's just like talking about settlement or a resolution
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: of the uh the conflict with iran one thing is well,
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: we're on the brink of reaching a settlement. The next
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: day it's, we're going to start dropping bombs tomorrow. Well,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I talked to Benjamin Netanyahu and told him
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: this was coming. And the next day you had Benjamin
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: Netanyahu going, I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: I wish that Trump had not undermined our friend Thomas
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: Massey and that he could be part of this, whatever,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: whichever way the government is going to go. I know
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: he has other plans in his life, but I, Wish
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: he were still in the House. I gather there may
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: very well be enough steam to impeach Pete Hegseth now
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: in the current Congress. According to Thomas Massey, that's why
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: Mike Rogers adjourned to the House, because Congressman Massey had
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: a majority vote, which is all it takes on his
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: motion to impeach the Secretary of Defense. And that forces
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: the Senate to stop what it's doing and hold a trial.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: Well, what about a presidential pardon? Donald Trump's already promised,
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: like Joe Biden did, to pretty much pardon everybody in
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: his administration.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: A pardon does not extend to impeachments or to war crimes.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: So Hegseth has problems for the rest of his life
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: if he goes to other.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Countries. And the war crimes, including the blowing up of
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: the drug boats? Correct.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 8: Correct.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 13: Correct.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: Now, he hasn't been formally charged with those, but it's
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: just a matter of time.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I've come to expect it. I mean, the Democrats
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: have already promised it. You know, subpoena here, impeachment there,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: you know, a lawyer up, say, some of them. So, yeah,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: we're going to have two years of constant investigations, probably
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: nothing actually getting accomplished. And then we'll be back in
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: the middle of a presidential election in 2028.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you who I think gained last night
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 2: and who suffered. Who suffered was the vice president who
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: couldn't deliver his own state. who gained as his likely
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: opponent for the Republican nomination, who did deliver his state,
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: the Secretary of State. So those two guys are in
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: different seats right now than they were two days ago.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, they are. Yes, they are.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know how popular the vice president is in Ohio.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: I saw sort of a snarky, snippy, Donald Trump imitation-like
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: version of him in a couple of speeches toward the end.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he was just testing this new
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: routine out, but honestly, he seemed out of character for
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: this professed traditional Roman Catholic.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he usually comes across quite well, but
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: even this morning, I had someone calling up and just
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: absolutely unloading on J.D.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 13: Vance.
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: And I don't have many liberals in my audience. And
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: if I do have them, Your Honor, and I've been
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: told that I do, they don't usually call me up
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: and challenge my logic and my reason. I always welcome
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: the opportunity, but rarely are they taken up because I'm
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: the kind of guy that would say, okay, Medicare for
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: all sounds great, but then again, how in the hell
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: are you going to afford it? It's a simple question
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: that can't be answered because it can't be afforded. It's
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. But there are critics of J.D. Vance
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: in my listening audience. They have preferential choices beyond him
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: for president and That's all going to shake out over
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: the next couple of years.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: But he's not native to Ohio, and he only ran
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: once and won once and didn't serve the full term.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: Do I have that correct? He was in his sole
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: term in the Senate when Trump tapped him to be
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: his veep.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: I do believe that's accurate.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: But, you know, pivoting back over to Massey, and I
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: have no idea— what Gowrain is going to bring to
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: the table. But he was elected by a pretty decent majority.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: So Donald Trump's hand-selected replacement for Thomas Massey is the
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: next representative from that district.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: And Donald Trump's hand-selected replacement for Lindsey Graham, failure. Donald
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: Trump's hand-selected replacement for John Cornyn. My God, Cornyn would
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: have beaten Tallarico in his sleep. Instead, they had the very,
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: very damaged, very challenged Attorney General Ken Paxton, who lost
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: pretty handily last night.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: First Democratic senator from Texas in 33 years, and Gina
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: Hinojosa is now the governor or will be the governor
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: of Texas, the first Democrat governor in 32 years.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Donald Trump. You know, this is a reckoning
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 2: for the Republican Party, Brian. They can't become a cult.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: They have to stand for principles like a balanced budget
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: and free market capitalism. And the Bill of Rights means
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: what it says. They have to stand for these things.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: They can't just kowtow to what the person in the
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: White House who has no consistent philosophy or ideology except
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: what pleases himself at the moment wants.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I was always a fan of fiscal responsibility, limited government,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: and free markets, which was the Tea Party. It could
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: have saved the Republican Party so long ago, but that's
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: a distant memory now, and maybe we'll have to start
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: reconciling with it on the conservative side of the ledger
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: as we contemplate yesterday's train wreck.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: My friend Peggy Noonan at the Wall Street Journal says
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: this is the best thing that could have happened to
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: the Republican Party, and it happened at just the right time.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: It will produce fidelity to first principles and leaders in
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: time for the 2028 election. And they will not be
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: beholden to the current occupant of the white house. I
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: hope she's right.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: No, I think she's right. Like Phoenix rising from the ashes.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: And then the similar corollary benefit, the Republicans, they're not
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: going to have evil orange man to run on those Democrats,
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: which was effective campaign strategy for yesterday, but he'll be
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: a thing of the past. They're going to have to
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: come up with some concepts and ideas to sell to
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: the American people. And, As of yesterday before the vote,
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: I hadn't heard a single concrete argument from Democrats advancing
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: a particular set of specific things they were going to
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: do to tackle this. this pesky inflation problem we're dealing
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: with it's their ownership now we'll see what they deal
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: with it or do with it right judging freedom judging
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: for judge anna napolitana's podcast find it wherever you get
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: your podcast judging freedom what are you gonna be talking
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: about today your honor A.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: Little bit about the election, but mainly Ukraine and Israel.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: Professor John Mearsheimer, Max Blumenthal, Phil Giraldi. But it's a
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: pleasure to be with you, Brian, no matter what we're
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: talking about, no matter what the outcome, no matter how
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: your listeners might not be happy this morning. It's a
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: privilege for me to be able to analyze these things.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: with a person whose intellect and personality and professionalism I
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: have so much respect for.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: I am humbled by your kind words, sir. I am
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: not worthy of them, but it is a great benefit
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: to myself, my listening audience, to have these discussions. You know,
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: we don't always see perfectly eye to eye, but you
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: bring up some awesome points. People just need to contemplate them,
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: and that is what we get, the benefit of that
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: contemplation with your thoughtful analysis. We'll do this again next Wednesday.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: Have a great week between now and then, my friend.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: You as well, Brian. Thank you.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 6: Bye-bye.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 6: Bye-bye.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: Josh Gerth coming up next. Hamilton County Chairman Josh Gerth. 845,
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: pick it up here at CD Talk Station. Of course,
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: reeling from yesterday's election. I know there's some folks out
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: there that are experiencing schadenfreude, and they're entitled to do
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: that because we on the conservative side of the ledger
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: have done that in the past, but Deal with the
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: outcome we must. And Hamilton County obviously was very, very
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: blue this time, and you cannot lay the blame with
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: the chairman of the Hamilton County Republican Party, Josh Gerth,
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: who's joined the program now. Josh, I want to applaud you.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: You bent over backwards. You were engaged. You were enthused.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: I know you did everything humanly possible to counter this
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: extraordinarily blue county we find ourselves in. Welcome to the program.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: Can I get just out of the gate your reaction
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: and where we go from here, Josh Gerth?
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 15: Well, thanks, Brian, for.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 6: Having me on.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 24: I got to tell you, obviously, it was a tough
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 24: night for us. But, you know, I get requests from
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 24: other media to talk about it. But I definitely want
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 24: and will gladly accept being on your show anytime, even
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 24: after a devastating loss.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 22: But just because of.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 24: Your fairness, your your insight, your your ability to let
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 24: people have discussion, just like you talked about with the
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 24: judge previously, I it's great.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 15: I respect the hell out.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: Of you for it.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 24: And I appreciate you.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: Having me on. Well, thanks man. I, I, you know, again, I,
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: I just, I'm so self self-deprecating. It's difficult for me
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: to take a compliment, but I appreciate your willingness to
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: at least talk about it. You know, thinking about Amy Acton,
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: her strategy of hiding in the basement actually paid off.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: And I just don't understand given her demonstrably poor record,
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: she couldn't hold a job more than 15 minutes. And
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: I know that's an overstatement. Obviously no one is happy
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: with her role as medical director and what she did
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: to the state of Ohio. But lo and behold, look
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: at that outcome. Just amazing to behold. But more fundamentally
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: for me here in Hamilton County, we needed better judges,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: Josh Gerth. We had some amazing judges who were on
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: the bench already have been voted out. And now we
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: have the Carrie Bloom continues with her antics in the
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: juvenile court. I just thought public safety was every in
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: everybody's best interest. And a critical component of that is
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: following through with punishment in the, in, in the court system.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: We don't have that though, do we?
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 15: No, we don't.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 24: Unfortunately, it looks like it might continue.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 15: But here's the good news.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 24: So the Republican Party in Hamilton County has a new
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 24: mantra going forward. We're going to get candidates who run
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 24: on less safety and higher taxes.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: And I think we're going to do all right.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: Reverse psychology. Why not?
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 24: We'll start passing out blue tickets. And, you know, I
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  Speaker 24: see a bright future for us if we take that strategy. Look, Brian,
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  Speaker 24: I I mean, I joke because I kind of have
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  Speaker 24: to at this point because there's really no explanation other
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  Speaker 24: than what everybody has said this morning and even last night.
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  Speaker 24: It's a referendum on the party, and you can blame
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  Speaker 24: whoever you want. Some will blame the president. Some will
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  Speaker 24: blame local, but whatever. We have to listen to the
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  Speaker 24: voters and the voters wiped us out in a lot
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  Speaker 24: of Republican states across the country. And so why we
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  Speaker 24: would be surprised that in a Democrat county like Hamilton,
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  Speaker 24: we wouldn't suffer. I mean, of course, that was going
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  Speaker 24: to likely happen. And we fought a great fight. You know,
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  Speaker 24: I got thrown into this about five months ago. We
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  Speaker 24: had candidates who Also, we're working their you-know-what's off. We
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  Speaker 24: did everything we could. We could have spent a billion
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  Speaker 24: dollars in Hamilton County trying to get those judges elected,
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  Speaker 24: and it wouldn't have mattered last night.
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  Speaker 1: Well, since Dusty Rhodes is retired, he's one Democrat. I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe the Republican Party might be able to get behind,
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  Speaker 1: but how are you, as your role, assuming you stay
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  Speaker 1: with it, and I hope you do, as chairman of
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  Speaker 1: the Hamilton County Republican Party.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: You're not good. I'm glad to hear that. Amen to that.
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  Speaker 1: My listeners, thank you, and I'll just talk on their behalf.
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  Speaker 1: How do you get candidates to run. You had great
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  Speaker 1: candidates in Hamilton County versus what was being offered by
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats. It obviously went all Democrats. You know, that's
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  Speaker 1: not exactly a recipe for getting people to line up
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  Speaker 1: to run for office in Hamilton County because running for
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  Speaker 1: office is a time-consuming, difficult job.
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  Speaker 24: Yeah, it sure is. I mean, I take it from
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  Speaker 24: someone who did it for a And and I think
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  Speaker 24: that and the reason why I even signed up to
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  Speaker 24: do the Hamilton County Republican chairman job is because I
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  Speaker 24: still think it matters. And I still think that there's
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  Speaker 24: a lot of people, whether you're Republican, independent or a
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  Speaker 24: blue dog Democrat, people still care about local kitchen table issues.
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  Speaker 24: And I believe that that's still the case here in
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  Speaker 24: this county. And what happened last night was was kind
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  Speaker 24: of crazy. But I still believe that public safety. I
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  Speaker 24: believe that low taxes, I believe that common sense government,
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  Speaker 24: I believe all those things still matter to a lot
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  Speaker 24: of people. And so, yeah, going forward, we have to,
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  Speaker 24: I think, have to find candidates that believe in that message,
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  Speaker 24: but also believe in a way that we deliver it
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  Speaker 24: so that we try and get as many of those
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  Speaker 24: independent voters as possible. I would have told you yesterday,
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  Speaker 24: I mean, I drove all around the county yesterday, and
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  Speaker 24: I was in places like Crosby Township, way on the
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  Speaker 24: west side, which, by the way, on the west side,
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  Speaker 24: I had a great time over there. There's some phenomenal
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  Speaker 24: people over there. But the turnout in what I was hearing,
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  Speaker 24: I mean, was great. I mean, I was so excited
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  Speaker 24: about people who were getting our material for the first
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  Speaker 24: time in the mail and bringing it to the polls.
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  Speaker 15: And so I was encouraged.
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  Speaker 24: I still think that plays. I still think there's hope.
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  Speaker 24: I still think that we can field great candidates next year.
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  Speaker 24: We're going to have a lot of local races for cities,
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  Speaker 24: township villages, Muni Court. I mean, all those things still matter.
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  Speaker 24: And I still think there's people sitting out there thinking, okay,
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  Speaker 24: I want to be part of this. And whether you're
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  Speaker 24: a candidate or behind the scenes or just helping deliver
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  Speaker 24: a message of common sense, I'm still believing it, which
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  Speaker 24: is why I'm not throwing in the towel. I got
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  Speaker 24: up this morning. It's time to keep going. Send a
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  Speaker 24: message to all the judges saying the same thing. We're
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  Speaker 24: not giving up in Hamilton County.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that, Josh Gerth. And of all
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  Speaker 1: people out there, I know that you're a principled guy.
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  Speaker 1: And it doesn't shock me a bit that you're not
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: going to throw in the towel. And I'll just recommend,
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  Speaker 1: you know, before you pull the flag out and pack
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  Speaker 1: up and leave Hamilton County, you know, it's not over.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and maybe I'm just an idiot. You're doing
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  Speaker 1: the same thing over and over again. The definition is stupidity,
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  Speaker 1: expecting a different result. Well, I would think that some point,
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  Speaker 1: and I've said this before, the voters will wake up
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  Speaker 1: and realize that Hamilton County will have been in Democrat
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  Speaker 1: control now for maybe more north of a decade, perhaps more,
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  Speaker 1: that the city of Cincinnati has been under Democrat control
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  Speaker 1: for 40-plus years. You've got to go back to, like,
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 1: Ken Blackwell on a Charterite side or Gene Ruhlman on
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: the Republican side to find a Republican in charge of downtown.
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  Speaker 1: Things have not gotten better. Things continue to deteriorate and
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: get worse. The number of lane miles that need to
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: be repaired keeps growing. All these nongovernmental organizations that are
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 1: used to send out and politic around the city, they've
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  Speaker 1: created this, well, I would argue, is a nightmare situation.
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  Speaker 1: At some point, I'd like to think people would wake
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  Speaker 1: up and be like, wait a second, who's been running
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: the show here for, wait, it's the Democrats. Why would
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: I do this to myself again? Right.
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  Speaker 6: No, I hear you.
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  Speaker 24: And we do have to do some different things. And
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 24: we did a lot of different things that we'd never
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 24: done in the past five months. But it's not all
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 24: gloom and doom. You know, we did win a couple
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 24: of races. And one I want to point out in
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 24: particular was Zach Haynes. And Zach Haynes obviously was not
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 24: only Hamilton County, but.
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  Speaker 15: Warren County District.
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  Speaker 24: One of the things we're going to do, Brian, is
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  Speaker 24: we're going to partner with the southwest Ohio counties around us.
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  Speaker 24: So Butler, Clinton, Claremont, Warren, we're going to collaborate with
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  Speaker 24: them because I have talked to all those chairmen. I've
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 24: talked to a lot of the candidates, a lot of
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  Speaker 24: candidates in those places still won, by the way. The
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 24: stuff that's happening in Hamilton is spreading and it will
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 24: continue to spread. And so we're going to work with
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 24: these more red counties to help come up with a
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 24: game plan to push back on some of the madness
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 24: that's happening in Hamilton County. It's going to take time.
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  Speaker 11: We knew it when I was elected.
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  Speaker 24: I've said it's going to take some time, but it's
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 24: not over. These midterm cycles and what happened yesterday have
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 24: happened before. We just got to put a game plan
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  Speaker 24: together and be ready to come back.
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  Speaker 1: I like the idea of cooperating with the outlying counties.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that sort of shared services concept, you know,
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  Speaker 1: working together for the collective good of all. Hamilton County
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party Chair Josh Gerth, am I going to see
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  Speaker 1: you today at Anderson Pub and Grow for listener lunch?
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 24: I mean, I'm going on a proof of life tour today,
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  Speaker 24: so I will definitely be there.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Well, everybody, you're invited to join the fun. You get
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: to meet and shake hands with Josh and encourage him
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  Speaker 1: to continue the