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Normally Podcast: Michigan's Socialist Surge, California's Wealth Tax & WNBA Reality Check · Normally

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, we are back on normally the show with normal,
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Speaker 1: which takes for when the news gets weird.
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Speaker 2: I am Mary Catherine.
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Speaker 3: HM, I'm Carol Marcowitz. How are you, Mary Catherine.
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Speaker 2: I'm good. You know. We're doing the sprint to the
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Speaker 2: end of the summer.
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Speaker 1: I know both you and I try to get as
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Speaker 1: much quality time in and the summer as possible, but
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Speaker 1: I have I gotta pat myself on the back. The
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Speaker 1: medical forms in the back to school shop aren't done.
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Speaker 3: Look at me, same same I also have got them done.
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Speaker 3: I'm very proud of myself. I mean, our school starts
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Speaker 3: obviously a lot earlier than earlier than.
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Speaker 4: Yours, so mine was really time is of the essence.
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Speaker 3: But I took them for their yearly check up appointment,
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Speaker 3: which is usually what the hold up is before we
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Speaker 3: left for our.
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Speaker 2: Trip, which is look at you.
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Speaker 4: That was really really smart.
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Speaker 3: And I feel like I deserve a lot of praise
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Speaker 3: and there's just no one around to do it.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, well I praise I am praising you because
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Speaker 1: I did the same thing, and I feel that my
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Speaker 1: August is a gift to myself.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm like, oh, look at me. I can enjoy myself.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am still sort of on vacation, so you
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Speaker 3: broke the news to me. I don't know if you
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Speaker 3: even know that that in Michigan, abdul l said, beat Rep.
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Speaker 3: Hailey Stevens in the Michigan Democratic Senate primary.
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Speaker 4: That's scary.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really the headliner of the primary night this
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Speaker 1: time around. And what that means for a flippable possibly
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Speaker 1: seat for Republicans. Democrats are defending this one. Hailey Stevens
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Speaker 1: was shown in a general election matchup against Mike Rogers,
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Speaker 1: who is a former congressman and FBI guy as beating
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Speaker 1: him by several points. Elsa Ed in the general election
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Speaker 1: shown a couple points down. El sa Ed is sort
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Speaker 1: of the yet another avatar of the red dsa green
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Speaker 1: Islam alliance miss the Muslim community in Michigan, plus these
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Speaker 1: very edge cadd white rich left, really liberal socialist people.
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Speaker 1: And it does appear that with his win, although it
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Speaker 1: was closer than people thought it would be, they were
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Speaker 1: they were advertising double digits.
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Speaker 2: It's a two point win against Hailey Stevens.
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Speaker 3: Fifteen coalitionsight out of one point five million, and notably
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Speaker 3: Mellory McMorrow who dropped out in July was still on
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Speaker 3: the ballot and got.
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Speaker 2: You know, a couple percentage points, so that is important
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Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 1: But I think this is a crystallization of the fact
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Speaker 1: that the Democratic Coalition is they're exchanging the union, household,
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Speaker 1: black church coalition for a campus encampment coalition.
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Speaker 3: M h. It's interesting that there's so little attention being
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Speaker 3: paid to that on kind of the mainstream liberal New
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Speaker 3: York Times East side. I feel like they would be
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Speaker 3: up in arms just a few years ago about anybody
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Speaker 3: replacing that black boat, and this is happening and no
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Speaker 3: one seems to care. I think, you know, Dave Marcus,
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Speaker 3: who writes for Fox News, he has covered that replacement
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Speaker 3: pretty well, but I don't really see that in a lot.
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Speaker 4: Of mainstream publications.
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Speaker 3: Which is funny again because not that long ago, if
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Speaker 3: Democrats did anything that didn't involve their black constituents, that
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Speaker 3: would have been a giant issue. But now they're just
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Speaker 3: so hungry for the win they'll throw that constituency right
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Speaker 3: under the bus.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think part of that might be again
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Speaker 1: the advancement of the campus encampment mindset on the left
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Speaker 1: and in the Democratic Party is to be ham handed
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Speaker 1: about it no pun intended that on the oppression hierarchy,
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Speaker 1: the Muslim immigrant constituencies now outrank black voters, so it's
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Speaker 1: okay to make overtures to them at the loss of
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Speaker 1: Black voters who are more pragmatic, who are more religious,
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Speaker 1: notably conservatively religious, so that's some more socially conservative views
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Speaker 1: in some cases. And the pulling beforehand showed that Hailey Stevens,
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Speaker 1: the establishment candidate, was winning black voters by a margin
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Speaker 1: of thirty plus votes. That showed in the Detroit returns
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Speaker 1: and other places that were heavily black. It showed that
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Speaker 1: she was winning non college voters by twenty plus points,
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Speaker 1: and indeed Abdul else I had racked up votes in
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Speaker 1: college towns and college educated suburbs while saying I am
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Speaker 1: the person for the working.
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Speaker 3: Class, right right, I say this all the time. But
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Speaker 3: I will give you free stuff is always going to
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Speaker 3: be a popular message. That is one that is very
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Speaker 3: hard to counter, and that was what he was saying.
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Speaker 3: He was saying, elect me, and I will deliver all.
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Speaker 4: Kinds of goodies for you.
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Speaker 3: Specifically, the phrase has become the downwardly mobile, like Ivy
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Speaker 3: League or somebody who has an advanced degree or at
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Speaker 3: least a college degree, and yet is not living up
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Speaker 3: to what they believe their life should be like. And
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Speaker 3: we'll talk more about this in the next segment, where
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Speaker 3: it's kind of gotten on both sides of the aisle.
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Speaker 3: People have lost the plot on what their lives are
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Speaker 3: supposed to look like. And we could blame social media
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Speaker 3: and all of that, but there's definitely this segment of
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Speaker 3: the population who was promised an open door to everything
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Speaker 3: if they went to certain schools and did certain things,
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Speaker 3: and now they're angry that they didn't get those things,
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Speaker 3: and they're turning to leftism hard, and it's going to
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Speaker 3: be at a real high cost for everybody.
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Speaker 4: It's a giant problem us.
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Speaker 3: I mean, watching this from afar right now, it really
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Speaker 3: it seems scary that America seems to be teetering on
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Speaker 3: falling for leftism across the ward.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I saw some crazy stat in the Argument yesterday, which
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Speaker 1: is a sort of center left publication, where they had run.
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Speaker 2: Down the numbers and found.
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Speaker 1: That like most people are largely pro free trade like
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Speaker 1: many segments of America, but dsay aligned lefties are the
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Speaker 1: most friendly to free trade. In this pulling and then
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Speaker 1: you also have like on the other this is what
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Speaker 1: I mean about just being scrambled. Then you have on
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Speaker 1: the Trump side him taking over companies and people cheering
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Speaker 1: for it, and it's like, what's happening, And so that
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Speaker 1: sort of mix of populism on both sides can be demoralizing.
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Speaker 1: I would also add, I'll say I openly campaigned with
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Speaker 1: Hassan Piker. He has some other very unsavory connections to money,
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Speaker 1: moneyed interests in the in the Islamist vein, and even
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Speaker 1: among his family members. He says anti American things, But
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Speaker 1: Hassan Piker is the Hassan Piker is the avatar of
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Speaker 1: that strain of sentiment. Eli Lake notes, you want example
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Speaker 1: about what this guy's all about. In January, he posted
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Speaker 1: on x that Hamas, the authors of the October seventh program,
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Speaker 1: is a thousand times better than the fascist, settler colonial
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Speaker 1: apartheid state. In Aprilly told Podsave America the Republican Party
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Speaker 1: was the biggest terrorist internationally. At a debate at Yale
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Speaker 1: University later that month, he crowed that the American Empire
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Speaker 1: was in the process of dying. In July, he praised
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Speaker 1: the late Chinese Tyrant mal Ze Dung and then of
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Speaker 1: course he said America deserved nine to eleven. Now, I
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Speaker 1: did see a journalist Dave Weigel call that a joke
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Speaker 1: yesterday on X It wasn't a joke.
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Speaker 2: You can watch the tape.
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Speaker 3: He also, I mean dresses up like Mao and said
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Speaker 3: that Mao is one of the great leaders of the world,
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Speaker 3: a man who changed this entire universe. I mean, in
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Speaker 3: my worldview, I don't see that praising Mao is at
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Speaker 3: all different than praising Hitler, and you're not allowed to
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Speaker 3: do one pretty explicitly, and the other one is like
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Speaker 3: going to be a guy that every single Democratic presidential
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Speaker 3: candidate is going to want to get on this guy's
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Speaker 3: live stream. Where Democrats going and the fact that Republicans
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Speaker 3: are been kind of slow to stop this spread maybe.
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Speaker 4: Because we think it might be strategically.
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Speaker 3: Better for us to have these candidates.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not sure.
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Speaker 2: I don't know either.
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Speaker 1: This is a swing state that has been represented by
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Speaker 1: Democratic senators for a long time.
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Speaker 2: Rogers is a good candidate.
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Speaker 1: He's like a generic Republican national security guy. My understanding
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Speaker 1: is that since he lost narrowly to Slotkin, who was
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Speaker 1: a very good candidate on the Democratic side. He has
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Speaker 1: been in the state on the ground, working hard.
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Speaker 2: There are some.
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Speaker 1: Say his fundraisers numbers need to be better. I think
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Speaker 1: Republican enthusiasm is an issue for him, but I do
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Speaker 1: think LSI ED may make Republicans more enthusiastic to get
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Speaker 1: out from Mike Rogers, but this is a It's going
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Speaker 1: to be a real test his statement. By the way, Rogers,
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Speaker 1: he says Abdel isn't just another liberal, He's an extremist.
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Speaker 1: He wants to empty prisons and put murderers and sex
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Speaker 1: ofphoners back on our street. She pledge to support to
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Speaker 1: the Muslim Brotherhood and campaigns with people who refuse to
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Speaker 1: condemn terrorism.
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Speaker 2: That's going to be the argument, right.
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Speaker 3: The other thing that I don't get is how the
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Speaker 3: Democratic Party is just rolling over for this. In the
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Speaker 3: DSA platform, they say both parties are funded by the
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Speaker 3: same criminal class of billionaires and war profiteers. Like they're
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Speaker 3: letting these people run under their party line with stuff
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Speaker 3: like that in their actual platform. How is that okay?
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Speaker 3: And Piker, for his part, talked about pushing out Democrats
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Speaker 3: who won't agree with him, who don't like that DSA perspective.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I wrote this in a column of the
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Speaker 3: New York Post recently. But someone has to be first
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Speaker 3: up against the wall when the revolution comes, and it's
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Speaker 3: going to be the same Democrats who are refusing now
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Speaker 3: to fight back. I think them sitting back and hoping
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Speaker 3: that the coolness of this DSA A moment runs off
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Speaker 3: on them is very dangerous.
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Speaker 1: Well, and to that point, like power, the power broker
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Speaker 1: is Hassan Piker. Now the you know the quick political report,
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Speaker 1: their headline today is their post primary headline is the
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Speaker 1: electability argument falls flat.
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Speaker 2: King making ain't when it used to be.
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Speaker 1: Because Hassan Piker is doing the king making for them,
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Speaker 1: and Schumer got worked here two hours ago. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: if indeed Hassan Piker is the king maker, we need
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Speaker 1: to be talking about the things that he believes. And
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Speaker 1: just to give you a little flavor of how Hassan
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Speaker 1: Piker sounds in victory, let's listen to him after this
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Speaker 1: narrow victory by abdelah Sayad.
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Speaker 5: Like everyone being like Abdullah's a ton of work to
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Speaker 5: do mending bridges. Here's the take nuke for you. Okay,
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Speaker 5: you are all unbelievably islamophobic pieces. Okay, you literally called
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Speaker 5: the dude a pair is for months on end, and
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Speaker 5: like call them a sexist, misogynist, terrorist, bad candidate doesn't
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Speaker 5: fake doctor when he has like two degrees. And now
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Speaker 5: you're gonna sit there and be like, well, you know,
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Speaker 5: you've really got to come to me now, Like what
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Speaker 5: are you talking about?
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Speaker 2: Do you want to win or not?
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Speaker 4: Lock the in?
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Speaker 5: Okay, lock the first.
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Speaker 1: Of all, and influencers with up talk should not be
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Speaker 1: allowed to be king makers. But that aside, you know,
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Speaker 1: this is the welcoming message in a narrow victory for
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Speaker 1: his candidate.
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Speaker 2: Look, if you win by twelve points, you can do
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Speaker 2: that and say everything.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, these huge numbers of black voters are Islamic pos
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Speaker 1: or islamophobic pos.
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Speaker 2: But this is a time when you actually do have
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Speaker 2: to bring people together.
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Speaker 4: What happens after primaries.
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Speaker 3: These people have never won elections before. So yeah, you know, again,
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Speaker 3: if it's not if the Democrats don't figure out a
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Speaker 3: way to get these people out of their party, the
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Speaker 3: Democrats are not going to have a party left. This
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Speaker 3: is going to subsume the party they're all so afraid.
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Speaker 3: I mean, with the exception of like Fetterman. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I can think of very few Democrats who have said
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Speaker 3: anything about this, because they're so afraid to lose their
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Speaker 3: own elections. They're so afraid to seem uncool in front
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Speaker 3: of the young kids. It's a bad situation over there,
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Speaker 3: and Republicans have to figure out how way to capitalize
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Speaker 3: on that.
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Speaker 1: Agree And actually, I think one of the things that
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Speaker 1: Republicans could do using Trump as a model is to
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Speaker 1: actually talk to some of these black constituencies energetically in
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Speaker 1: ways that they have not in the past. Rogers could
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Speaker 1: make some attempts to do that. There are people out
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Speaker 1: there who would peel off. Also, there are a lot
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Speaker 1: of people, perhaps Jewish voters, perhaps Black voters, who might
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Speaker 1: stay at home. But to the extent the establishment stepped
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Speaker 1: in here, Whitmer was a late endorser of Haley Stevens.
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Speaker 1: Jim Cliburne jumped in a little earlier.
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Speaker 2: I think than Whitmer.
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Speaker 1: And then, but notably, people who endorsed Alissa Slotkin did
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Speaker 1: not endorse. And notably, people who did endorse four else
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Speaker 1: I had were on the ground. Those who endorsed for
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Speaker 1: Haley Stevens did not. They were not super visible.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're really not understanding the threat. It has
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Speaker 3: to be all hands on deck, and it has to
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Speaker 3: be out loud. It can't be whispered, you know, it
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Speaker 3: can't be in the dms of people. Yeah, I'm really
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Speaker 3: worried about the left rising up in my party.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you do so gay about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we've had this conversation before because it
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Speaker 1: is somewhat analogous to the Tea Party and Trump right. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: establishment is not reading how angry its base is that
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Speaker 1: they want something different.
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Speaker 2: They haven't you know.
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Speaker 1: Put a foot down in the past on the campus
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Speaker 1: and camp and encampments. So it's all coming into the
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Speaker 1: party and being institutionalized in the party because they haven't quit,
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Speaker 1: they haven't stopped these people sooner and then it gets
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Speaker 1: here and they're like, oh, well, but here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: As I always say, Trump.
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Speaker 1: Populism, famous celebrity candidate much closer to a center right
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Speaker 1: nation than a l sayet.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Trump is even you know, center center. I don't
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Speaker 3: even know center right. Sometimes occasionally he crosses over. Would
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Speaker 3: do we have an ad from the nr SC to play? Oh?
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Speaker 2: Yes, their first as name.
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Speaker 6: I'm on Mohammed l SA, yet the most radical Senate
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Speaker 6: candidate in America. L Sayet pledged support for the leader
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Speaker 6: of the Muslim Brotherhood, a designated foreign terrorist group. He
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Speaker 6: wants to hike taxes on Michigan waitresses, delivery drivers, and seniors.
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Speaker 6: On social security, he joined a sex offender and a
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Speaker 6: murderer to demand the mass release of dangerous prisoners, and
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Speaker 6: when his ally claimed America deserved nine eleven am.
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Speaker 1: L.
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Speaker 2: Sayed refused to disavow.
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Speaker 4: I'm not here to disavow.
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Speaker 6: Too radical, too dangerous, wrong for Michigan.
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Speaker 3: It's a good d I mean it hits the relevant points.
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Speaker 3: I think the financial points need to be hit again
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Speaker 3: and again.
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Speaker 4: He wants to raise taxes. All the free stuff plans
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Speaker 4: need to be paid for.
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Speaker 3: And that's, you know, one of the things that people
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Speaker 3: need to come back to basics and explain. As we've
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Speaker 3: discussed economics, economics one O one, this is how things work.
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Speaker 4: This is why you can't have free stuff.
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Speaker 1: I want to note also in other primary news in Michigan,
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Speaker 1: the Lancing based seventh district which was this is Slatkin's
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Speaker 1: old district. I think she late endorsed a former Navy
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Speaker 1: seal Matt Masdam, but he was bested by William Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: a progressive activist and co founder of the Sunrise Movement.
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Speaker 1: And look, this is the kind of thing where if
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Speaker 1: you get a little out over your skis and you
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Speaker 1: nominate somebody very liberal in a purplish district, I don't
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Speaker 1: know if it'll work out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The other thing is that talking about that Red Green Alliance,
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Speaker 3: we could see other countries and how that's gone. Recently,
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Speaker 3: there was a debate at Oxford Union. Laurence Fox, who's
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Speaker 3: fantastic if we don't follow him on X follow him,
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Speaker 3: did a really great job representing the side that says
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Speaker 3: that Islam the West should be suspicious of Islam and
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Speaker 3: I don't love the way that's worded, but he did
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Speaker 3: a fantastic job anyway.
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Speaker 4: Tommy Robinson, who.
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Speaker 3: Is an activist in the UK and really an interesting
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Speaker 3: guy also really just pro Britain if you want to
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Speaker 3: talk about what he is, had a student at Oxford
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Speaker 3: Union said this to him as he was sitting there.
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Speaker 7: Stephen Yaxley Lennin, known to his hooligans as Tommy Robinson. Stephen,
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Speaker 7: there is a crowd outside writing against you tonight and
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Speaker 7: without the protection and generosity of a Muslim Palestinian president
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Speaker 7: and then mostly South Asian executive committee, you would be
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Speaker 7: quite literally cooked.
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Speaker 4: She's so proud of herself.
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Speaker 3: And the thing is that Western values say that you
17:17
Speaker 3: can say whatever you want and not be quite literally cooped.
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Speaker 3: And that's, you know, one of the things that left
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Speaker 3: does not support that freedom to be able to say
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Speaker 3: whatever you want.
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Speaker 4: Neither do the Muslim influx.
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Speaker 3: The Islam is not about freedom of speech or freedom
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Speaker 3: of anything really, and that combination is it's dangerous.
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Speaker 4: It's dangerous for us all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is part of why the establishment is
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Speaker 1: afraid to take these folks on. It's not just political concerns.
17:50
Speaker 1: It's partly that they're scared of them. There was that
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Speaker 1: Acuio story months ago that was like, yeah, they kind
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Speaker 1: of want our blood to pour in the streets and
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Speaker 1: they say it a lot, so we are nervous.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm not into that.
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Speaker 1: So the capacity for violence that they show, and the
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Speaker 1: very aggressive tactics.
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Speaker 2: And the.
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Speaker 1: What do they call it direct protest or something, I
18:12
Speaker 1: can't remember what they call it. All these things can
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Speaker 1: scare people, can intimidate people, are meant to do so.
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Speaker 1: They honed these tactics on the college campuses and they
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Speaker 1: will bring them into regular politics and are doing so.
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Speaker 1: By the way, wasn't an.
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Speaker 2: Armed person arrested outside mar A Lago yet again yesterday?
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Speaker 2: Oh that happened?
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Speaker 3: Wow?
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Speaker 4: No, I have not seen.
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Speaker 1: We set the clock to zero for days day we've
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Speaker 1: gone without an assassination.
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Speaker 3: You know, I am trying to still stay offline again.
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Speaker 3: My trip ends tomorrow, so by the time you hear this,
18:43
Speaker 3: I'll be fully back online. But I have been checking
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Speaker 3: into X and I didn't see that. That's how it's
18:48
Speaker 3: a non entity.
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Speaker 2: It's like a non story.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, non story.
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Speaker 1: Somebody joked that we should make a deal that a
18:55
Speaker 1: president gets six more months of a term for every
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Speaker 1: assassination attempt and then it would stop.
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Speaker 2: I like that. So armed man.
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Speaker 1: Arrested at Trump's California golf course ahead of President's visit,
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Speaker 1: So I was wrong.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't at maral Lage.
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Speaker 1: He Secret Services investigating was the person who was caught
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Speaker 1: with ammunition and a public telephone number for the White
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Speaker 1: House while apparently taking pictures and videos of the federal
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Speaker 1: agent's security planning activities, post a threat to Donald Trump,
19:19
Speaker 1: a federal law enforcement source told CNN.
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Speaker 2: That's a part of the puzzle, guys.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit of that. The violence is
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Speaker 3: no good. We're going to take a short break and
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Speaker 3: come back with more on normally. We are back with
19:34
Speaker 3: more on normally and communism. You know, it feels like
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Speaker 3: it's coming and we don't like it at all over
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Speaker 3: here on Normally. The Democratic Party in California just endorsed
19:47
Speaker 3: the wealth tax. We've talked about it on the show before.
19:50
Speaker 3: The wealth tax is a tax proposed in California, a
19:53
Speaker 3: five percent tax on the wealth of people living in
19:58
Speaker 3: that state. Now, again, it's not income, it's literally on
20:03
Speaker 3: the wealth that they have, the homes that they own,
20:05
Speaker 3: the stocks that they own of their company.
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Speaker 4: And the thing was that for a little while, it
20:11
Speaker 4: was going to be a fringe thing.
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Speaker 3: It was like, oh, if this even makes the ballot,
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Speaker 3: and then if it does make the ballot, then nobody's
20:18
Speaker 3: going to vote for it. And if they do vote
20:20
Speaker 3: for it, then Gavin News I'm certainly going to veto it.
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Speaker 3: And now it turns out none of that's going to happen.
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Speaker 3: The party endorsing the tax is saying they want it.
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Speaker 3: And it's very telling that the headlines on this story
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Speaker 3: where doctors, teachers, nurses, and firefighters voted no.
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Speaker 4: And you know, basically the wealthier of.
20:42
Speaker 3: The Democratic Party voted yes on it. And it's crazy
20:46
Speaker 3: that that's where we are again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, this is why the rich people started running
20:54
Speaker 1: away from California.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that was just the latest wave.
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Speaker 1: But the was chiding those people for having left, saying, oh,
21:03
Speaker 1: this is so silly, it's not even going to be
21:04
Speaker 1: on the ballot, as you say. It turns out that
21:07
Speaker 1: when people say, if you have things, we're going to
21:10
Speaker 1: take those things, you should take them seriously.
21:12
Speaker 2: And maybe they mean they can't take things. Yeah, and
21:16
Speaker 2: they did so, and I think they were smart to
21:17
Speaker 2: do so.
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Speaker 1: And if Governor Newsom wants to make a play in
21:21
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight and an increasingly socialist party, is he
21:24
Speaker 1: going to veto something like this.
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Speaker 3: No, he certainly is not. And that's the thing, and
21:30
Speaker 3: I don't even know. The thing is that we don't
21:32
Speaker 3: know what any of these people believe anymore. They just
21:34
Speaker 3: are all catering to this leftist fringe. And it's worrisome.
21:38
Speaker 3: Like we talked about in the first segment, that they're
21:40
Speaker 3: just rolling over for it, and Gavin Newsom's one hundred
21:43
Speaker 3: percent rolling over for it, that he's not going to
21:45
Speaker 3: take a stand, just not going to happen at all.
21:49
Speaker 4: But it is interesting that a lot of.
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Speaker 3: The wealthy people who have left they used to be Democrats.
21:55
Speaker 3: Some of them have been kind of open about their
21:57
Speaker 3: move right word, which is like about time, guys. You know,
22:01
Speaker 3: just because it's happening to you now, it doesn't mean
22:04
Speaker 3: that it was a good thing.
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Speaker 2: Ever.
22:07
Speaker 3: Also, there was a moment where Elon Musk recently lost
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Speaker 3: a bunch of money in stock and he was like, well,
22:13
Speaker 3: no longer trillionaire. And that's another reason why this wealth
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Speaker 3: tax thing makes no sense. You can't tach somebody on
22:19
Speaker 3: wealth that they.
22:19
Speaker 4: Don't actually have.
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Speaker 3: Yet he went back to being just the multi multi
22:24
Speaker 3: billionaire and you know, what are you taxing them on?
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Speaker 1: Well, And I just think there's this misunderstanding. There are
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Speaker 1: some who are smart enough to know, but I think
22:32
Speaker 1: there's largely ignorance on the left about where wealth comes from.
22:37
Speaker 4: Oh totally.
22:37
Speaker 1: They act as if Musk has just like held up
22:42
Speaker 1: a wagon train on the side of the road, and
22:44
Speaker 1: it's like, no, he he has worked and created things
22:48
Speaker 1: and then gotten money because people want to invest in
22:51
Speaker 1: those things. And if you're not creating those things, and
22:54
Speaker 1: you don't have people creating those things, and if you
22:56
Speaker 1: discourage everyone who does create them, you will have less
23:00
Speaker 1: of the money that you guys want to take and redistribute.
23:02
Speaker 1: I truly think many of them do not understand that.
23:06
Speaker 1: They're like, the magic money will just fall from the heavens, right,
23:09
Speaker 1: and that will solve all of our problems medicare for
23:12
Speaker 1: all as Adulasa ed wants, right, won't. It won't be
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Speaker 1: a question of, well, what happens if you chase off
23:20
Speaker 1: all your wealth? They don't think about that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
23:24
Speaker 3: The other thing is that on the right we're having
23:29
Speaker 3: kind of similar conversations, just on a different level. They're
23:32
Speaker 3: not talking confiscation, but there's this whole discourse right now
23:37
Speaker 3: about Matt Walsh posted grocery prices are insane, they're still rising.
23:41
Speaker 3: Addressing this problem should be the number one priority of
23:43
Speaker 3: every elected leader. And the stupid foreign wars and focus
23:46
Speaker 3: on this issue. It's one of the main reasons socialists
23:48
Speaker 3: are gaining power. That might be true. I don't think
23:51
Speaker 3: foreign wars have anything to do with it. I don't
23:53
Speaker 3: think lack of focus has anything to do with it.
23:55
Speaker 3: I think it is a difficult problem to solve. When
23:59
Speaker 3: problem is is that under the Biden administration they sent
24:02
Speaker 3: money to people, They sent out checks at a rapid
24:07
Speaker 3: clip during COVID, and that caused inflation. That inflation has
24:11
Speaker 3: been tough to bring down. It's gone down significantly. Grocery
24:14
Speaker 3: prices are still insane. But what focused can we have
24:18
Speaker 3: on fixing this? So then Andrew Colvet from TPUSA, He said,
24:24
Speaker 3: one of our TPUs college students gave me his take
24:27
Speaker 3: on affordability. Quote, A burrito shouldn't cost twenty dollars. Then
24:32
Speaker 3: Joel Berry, who's just one of my favorite people. He's
24:35
Speaker 3: a producer for Jeremy Boring. He said, last night, my
24:38
Speaker 3: wife made homemade burritos for our family of eight, and
24:40
Speaker 3: it costs less than twenty dollars total for everyone. I'm
24:43
Speaker 3: beginning to think the affordability crisis is really an I
24:46
Speaker 3: don't know how to cook crisis. The thing is, he's right,
24:49
Speaker 3: he's right, and you're not allowed to say it because
24:52
Speaker 3: we're supposed to be sympathetic. And I am extremely sympathetic
24:55
Speaker 3: I have kids who are heading into the direction of
24:58
Speaker 3: being on their own, and it.
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Speaker 4: Is tough out there. It's absolutely tough.
25:02
Speaker 3: And you can have sympathy while still being like, you
25:06
Speaker 3: shouldn't be door dashing yourself a twenty dollar burrito. It
25:08
Speaker 3: is probably gonna be like forty dollars by time all
25:10
Speaker 3: the fees and taxes and tips kick in. And yet
25:14
Speaker 3: we're pretending that there's no way around this twenty dollars
25:16
Speaker 3: burrito question. That's the only thing we can do. It's
25:19
Speaker 3: that's supposed to cost twenty dollars. That's true, maybe, but
25:23
Speaker 3: it does, and what are we.
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Speaker 2: Going to do about that?
25:25
Speaker 1: Well, and as you point out, it's a little more
25:27
Speaker 1: complex than just like burritos are twenty dollars, it's okay,
25:29
Speaker 1: well you are you having it delivered. Part of it
25:32
Speaker 1: is tariffs that affect various ingredients that go into a burrito.
25:35
Speaker 1: Part of it is Chipotle or whomever's operating costs are
25:39
Speaker 1: going up. Part of it might be your states and
25:43
Speaker 1: federally mandated benefits that they have to give to workers
25:46
Speaker 1: that rise, you know, that contribute to the cost of
25:48
Speaker 1: this burritos. There's a lot going into this, But I
25:51
Speaker 1: do think there's a middle ground where you have to
25:54
Speaker 1: acknowledge people's frustration and struggles. And I openly seed and
26:01
Speaker 1: feel bad for the fact that this economy is not
26:04
Speaker 1: as good as when and not as like entry level
26:06
Speaker 1: job ready as when I left college. For instance, I
26:09
Speaker 1: left college and got a daily newspaper job that basically
26:12
Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore.
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Speaker 4: Okay, height, well one year did you graduate college?
26:15
Speaker 2: Two thousand and two?
26:16
Speaker 3: Okay, so I feel like we graduated at such a
26:19
Speaker 3: hot market.
26:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that conceded, right, I concede that the dream
26:25
Speaker 1: of owning a home seems much feels much further off
26:29
Speaker 1: for people than it used to. All of these things
26:31
Speaker 1: can be, can be, I can be sympathetic with. And also,
26:36
Speaker 1: I'm just going to contrast. When I left college, I
26:39
Speaker 1: went to a low cost of living place where I
26:42
Speaker 1: lived with a roommate in rural North Carolina and made
26:45
Speaker 1: twenty one thousand dollars a year, which is now, adjusting
26:49
Speaker 1: for inflation, about forty k Okay.
26:52
Speaker 2: I read a New.
26:53
Speaker 1: York Times piece the other day called gen z has
26:55
Speaker 1: fallen out of love with work, And I don't blame them.
26:57
Speaker 1: And it's a millennial who's saying, like, you know, the
27:00
Speaker 1: thing where they want work life balance is admirable, and
27:02
Speaker 1: they want flexibility and all this stuff. But we get
27:05
Speaker 1: to the expectations part, and he says in a recent
27:09
Speaker 1: pole gen Z ers, on average said that in order
27:11
Speaker 1: to feel financially successful, they would need to earn nearly
27:14
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand a year, or roughly what the top
27:16
Speaker 1: two percent of Americans make. Most of the students I
27:20
Speaker 1: spoke to, so these are college students, told me they
27:23
Speaker 1: would need two hundred to three hundred k a year
27:25
Speaker 1: just to feel stable, to be rich or afford kids.
27:28
Speaker 1: Many said they would need millions in the bank. And
27:31
Speaker 1: I can be sympathetic, but someone also needs to say
27:35
Speaker 1: you're not worth two hundred k when you come out
27:38
Speaker 1: of college.
27:38
Speaker 4: Sure, sure not, and torture k even after a few
27:41
Speaker 4: years after college. It is no anomical sum, Like what
27:45
Speaker 4: are you talking about?
27:46
Speaker 2: It's actually wild, It's it is you know.
27:50
Speaker 3: We blame social media for a lot, but I really
27:52
Speaker 3: do think that they're seeing people on social media live
27:55
Speaker 3: a very glamorous life, and they're thinking that's going to
27:58
Speaker 3: be my life. And and the thing is that most
28:01
Speaker 3: people are not on yachts and they're not living some
28:05
Speaker 3: sort of dream life that you see online.
28:08
Speaker 4: They're also not ordering food every day.
28:11
Speaker 3: I have to tell you, I feel very comfortable in
28:14
Speaker 3: our financial situation, and I sometimes get to the end of.
28:17
Speaker 4: An Uber Eats order and I'm like, how much does
28:19
Speaker 4: this Forget it? I'm like literally be like, nope, I'm
28:22
Speaker 4: not doing this. This is crazy.
28:24
Speaker 3: This is a crazy number, and I'm not doing it.
28:27
Speaker 3: I'm going to just go figure out dinner for my
28:29
Speaker 3: Sorry everybody, I know. I said we were ordering in,
28:32
Speaker 3: but we're no longer doing that. So for a young
28:35
Speaker 3: person to be like I deserve to be ordering or
28:39
Speaker 3: I deserve to be eating out, that's just not how
28:42
Speaker 3: life works.
28:43
Speaker 1: Or if you come out of college and you're like,
28:45
Speaker 1: I need a job that's my heart song that feeds me.
28:49
Speaker 1: I'm going to live in a high cost of living
28:51
Speaker 1: city that I choose to live in, in a nice
28:52
Speaker 1: place with no roommates, and I want flexibility and work
28:55
Speaker 1: life balance, And it's like, okay, well you can toggle
28:58
Speaker 1: some of those switches, but you can't have all of.
29:00
Speaker 2: That right out of college.
29:01
Speaker 1: And I do think that's a discussion that needs to
29:04
Speaker 1: be had in a sensitive way because would any of
29:08
Speaker 1: the students he spoke to take a forty k year
29:11
Speaker 1: job in a rural place and try to work their
29:13
Speaker 1: way up, right, that's the question. You have to start
29:17
Speaker 1: there sometimes, and that doesn't come with uber eats every night.
29:20
Speaker 2: It came with Sonic drive through once a day. For me. Yeah,
29:25
Speaker 2: that's how I was living. But yeah, I there's a part.
29:30
Speaker 1: Where you, as a politician, especially, you have to be
29:32
Speaker 1: having a conversation in a sensitive way.
29:34
Speaker 3: Few people are enough to do it anymore, and it's
29:38
Speaker 3: scary that it's like it's just considered something you're not
29:42
Speaker 3: allowed to say. Mark Deeson had a comment today where
29:45
Speaker 3: he said crime a River, the burrito's in the college
29:47
Speaker 3: cafeteria included in your meal plan, and Jamie Vince Wade
29:52
Speaker 3: in saying, I'm surprised to hear Mark say this. If
29:54
Speaker 3: you ever met him in person, it's quite obvious the
29:56
Speaker 3: man has never missed a burrito.
29:58
Speaker 4: What are you doing, dude, Like, I you.
30:01
Speaker 2: Know that's not true if you meet Mark Thesent in person.
30:04
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just it's a bizarre. But it's like
30:09
Speaker 3: the right is becoming kind of a leftist light and
30:15
Speaker 3: it's scary to watch. I don't understand where we're going
30:19
Speaker 3: with this and how the responsible party, the party that's
30:23
Speaker 3: supposed to be telling the truth to people about how
30:25
Speaker 3: life works, is saying stuff like this.
30:28
Speaker 1: And also shout out to the gen z ers who
30:31
Speaker 1: are working extremely hard and don't have these astronomical, ridiculous expectations.
30:36
Speaker 1: I know you guys are under pressure as well. I mean,
30:38
Speaker 1: I'm feeding four kids, like I wait till sales tax weekend,
30:42
Speaker 1: sales tax free weekend to do my back to school.
30:44
Speaker 2: That's the right, that's the life we live here.
30:47
Speaker 4: That's absolutely right.
30:48
Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and be right
30:50
Speaker 3: back with one more segment of Normally. We are back
30:57
Speaker 3: on Normally, where the news that did trait during my
31:01
Speaker 3: vacation is Clay Travis offering ten million dollars for a
31:05
Speaker 3: head to head basketball game between the defendant defending WNBA
31:10
Speaker 3: champion Las Vegas Aces and a boys high school.
31:13
Speaker 4: State title team of his choice.
31:15
Speaker 3: If the Aces beat his team, he gives them ten
31:18
Speaker 3: million dollars. They haven't responded to this offer at all,
31:22
Speaker 3: and this stems from the fact that Sophie Cunningham said
31:25
Speaker 3: that biological boys shouldn't play in girls' sports, and she
31:27
Speaker 3: got all this pushback and all this negativity from OTHERWNBA
31:32
Speaker 3: players and from the media saying that of course trans
31:36
Speaker 3: women are women and they can play in the WNBA,
31:39
Speaker 3: and Klay Travis's point is women's sports are different than
31:43
Speaker 3: men's sports. They are not the same, and the fact
31:46
Speaker 3: is that their bodies are different. And it's the reason
31:49
Speaker 3: that we even have women's sports in the first place.
31:52
Speaker 3: And that's why he's so confident he's willing to put
31:54
Speaker 3: up ten million dollars to do this. At the same time,
31:57
Speaker 3: there is a French trans basketball player who wants to
32:02
Speaker 3: go play at the WNBA. It is a biological male
32:05
Speaker 3: who is now a female and named Julie Tetart said
32:10
Speaker 3: wouldn't turn down and offer to play in the w
32:13
Speaker 3: NBA A mid debates on the participation of trans athletes
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Speaker 3: and women's sports. This person came out as Trends in
32:19
Speaker 3: October twenty twenty one and plays in Monaco.
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Speaker 4: If you take a look at this picture, you know it's.
32:28
Speaker 1: Not under you'll understand why the other players are getting
32:32
Speaker 1: their butts kicked.
32:33
Speaker 3: Yes, right, six foot three center, let's just say that.
32:40
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think it's silk.
32:42
Speaker 4: Hunningham's comments are obvious.
32:44
Speaker 3: She said she wants to protect young girls in sport
32:46
Speaker 3: who shouldn't have to go against biological men. That is
32:49
Speaker 3: like the most basic idea that almost all Americans agree
32:54
Speaker 3: with the fact that it remains in twenty twenty six,
32:56
Speaker 3: something controversial to say is bananas.
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Speaker 1: Our friend Kate Rosenfield wrote for The Free Press, noting
33:03
Speaker 1: that Sophy Cunningham hasn't gotten canceled for this because there
33:07
Speaker 1: has been a sea change, and the WNBA is an
33:12
Speaker 1: organization that is living in twenty twenty and wishes to
33:15
Speaker 1: live there forever. They got a lot of self righteous
33:18
Speaker 1: virtue signaling and power. These folks on the signaling left
33:22
Speaker 1: during twenty twenty to twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: And they like it and they would like to keep it.
33:27
Speaker 1: And so wearing the trans Kids Belong shirt as one
33:31
Speaker 1: of the coaches did versus Sophie Cunningham, is the way
33:33
Speaker 1: that she maintains that moral superiority, despite the fact that
33:37
Speaker 1: when she was a player, she never had to play
33:40
Speaker 1: against men as she was being developed as a player, right,
33:44
Speaker 1: that wasn't her cross to bear. It's for the children
33:47
Speaker 1: coming up now, and she's willing. By the way, there's
33:50
Speaker 1: a thing where like, oh, as a coach, would you
33:52
Speaker 1: like some men to play on your women's basketball team.
33:54
Speaker 1: I'm sure that would be nice for you. So it
33:57
Speaker 1: might be a competitive advantage thing going on here.
33:58
Speaker 2: But I I.
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Speaker 1: Think the left, the twenty twenty left, embodied by a
34:04
Speaker 1: place like the WNBA, is very upset to find that
34:09
Speaker 1: the other side of the argument can talk now that
34:12
Speaker 1: they didn't want it is a new development on this thing.
34:17
Speaker 1: In particular, even though eighty percent of Americans were with
34:20
Speaker 1: Zophe Cunningham right from the beginning, it's.
34:22
Speaker 3: Like, I think the number even gets higher, like when
34:25
Speaker 3: you give specific examples of how it would work. Yes,
34:29
Speaker 3: so it is an overwhelmingly popular issue to not have
34:32
Speaker 3: biological boys in girls sports.
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Speaker 2: And I just think this league seems intent on making
34:38
Speaker 2: itself unwatchable and unrootable for And by the way, Sophie
34:46
Speaker 2: Cunningham didn't bring this up. The ESPN writer was like, Hey,
34:49
Speaker 2: they're calling you Maga Barbie out there.
34:51
Speaker 1: When do you think of that? And Sophie Cunningham said,
34:55
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not really political. I talk about things
34:58
Speaker 1: that matter to me in my league, things I care
35:00
Speaker 1: about one of them being women's sports right.
35:03
Speaker 2: Right.
35:04
Speaker 3: It's funny, you know when I hear I'm non political,
35:07
Speaker 3: now I just they're on the right.
35:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Well, and that's that's the witch hunt,
35:13
Speaker 2: right they've been doing this spring.
35:15
Speaker 3: Let us see that you're not allowed to say that, right,
35:18
Speaker 3: So if.
35:18
Speaker 1: You won't do the rituals of the work left, then
35:21
Speaker 1: you are discounted and you are right wing. And this
35:23
Speaker 1: is how they push all these people towards us. And
35:26
Speaker 1: if people like LSA Ed want to live in twenty
35:28
Speaker 1: twenty during a twenty twenty six cycle, perhaps it will
35:31
Speaker 1: redound to the benefit of someone like my Rogers.
35:33
Speaker 4: That's right.
35:34
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