Latest / Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar / 7/22/26: Trump To Bomb Pickaxe Mt, Lebanon Civil War, GOP Screwed In Midterms
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- 1:01Speaker 3: end of the show, which is an old kind of
- 1:02Speaker 3: radio trick to keep people listening. That'll be Emily's review
- 1:05Speaker 3: of her first Fish show. That's what everybody wants to hear.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Any any top line thoughts, let's talk. We'll can talk
- 1:11Speaker 3: about at the end of the program.
- 1:12Speaker 4: Vibes word chill es three words.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Vibes were definitely chill.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Seeing Ryan at a Fish show is seeing Ryan at
- 1:19Speaker 4: his absolute peak, my happy place, no truly, truly. And
- 1:24Speaker 4: Ryan brought his kids, which was super fun too.
- 1:25Speaker 3: The kids were they were not so keen on it.
- 1:28Speaker 4: But they got you know, slushies or whatever else.
- 1:31Speaker 3: It was an education, it was, It was.
- 1:33Speaker 4: But lots to get to on the show today. Ryan
- 1:35Speaker 4: breaking news on the Iran front. Also Trump striking a
- 1:39Speaker 4: brand new deal with Saudi Arabia on It's about nuclear
- 1:44Speaker 4: proliferation in the Middle East, so obviously relevant to ongoing
- 1:47Speaker 4: negotiations in Iran and strikes continuing as well, so Mussha
- 1:52Speaker 4: breakdown on that front. Just in the last few.
- 1:54Speaker 3: Hours, Hexith was on Capitol Hill, Trump was in the
- 1:57Speaker 3: Oval Office. So we've got a lot of sound work
- 2:00Speaker 3: our way through.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Yes, thikes Ith begging for money on Capitol Hill, and
- 2:03Speaker 4: I promise you he's going to get it. Well, he will,
- 2:06Speaker 4: He's going to get it. Might be a little bit of.
- 2:07Speaker 3: A fight, then we'll pay up.
- 2:09Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, huge, huge developments in Lebanon that we are
- 2:14Speaker 4: going to go through. Ryan Dropsite's been doing a lot
- 2:16Speaker 4: of work on this.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody's ever tried a civil war in Lebanon, So
- 2:19Speaker 3: Trump's like, let's let's do that. Meanwhile, meanwhile, Yemen is
- 2:23Speaker 3: threatening to close down and has in fact for Saudi
- 2:27Speaker 3: ships shut down bob elmandeb Straight, which has been running
- 2:30Speaker 3: a couple of million barrels per day of oil. So
- 2:33Speaker 3: if you liked four dollar gallon gas, you're going to
- 2:38Speaker 3: love what's coming next.
- 2:40Speaker 4: Just you wait, it's only only getting better. Midterm elections.
- 2:44Speaker 4: We have some results to get to in Arizona. But
- 2:47Speaker 4: also new polling showing exactly how bad the situation is
- 2:50Speaker 4: for Republicans. New polling putting the House in the Senate.
- 2:54Speaker 4: We won't this is another radio trick ry and we
- 2:56Speaker 4: won't tell you who the polling is from, but trust
- 2:59Speaker 4: us significant that the polling is showing Democrats now face
- 3:04Speaker 4: toss ups, face a toss up in the Senate and
- 3:06Speaker 4: leading for control of the House. So we'll go through
- 3:10Speaker 4: those numbers with everyone new tariffs on Canada. This is
- 3:16Speaker 4: a pretty significant economic development. Lots of foreign policy and
- 3:19Speaker 4: politics in the show, but a pretty significant economic development
- 3:22Speaker 4: to go through. John Stewart and his thoughts on the DSA.
- 3:26Speaker 3: That'll be fun.
- 3:27Speaker 4: You don't want to hear this. John Stuart's thoughts of
- 3:29Speaker 4: the DSA. Also Republicans saying the quote Bolshevik takeover of
- 3:32Speaker 4: the Democratic Party is in full swing. We might debate
- 3:36Speaker 4: who the Bolsheviks are in this scenario. And Ryan, who's
- 3:40Speaker 4: our guest.
- 3:41Speaker 3: We had Kyle Blomquest who's running in the Upper Peninsula
- 3:44Speaker 3: of Michigan against Jack Bergman and Republican if he wins
- 3:49Speaker 3: the Democratic primary, and we'll talk to him also about
- 3:51Speaker 3: the Abdulla l side and Haley Stevens race. And also
- 3:55Speaker 3: he's another candidate who's really being propelled by his opposition
- 3:58Speaker 3: to data centers.
- 4:00Speaker 4: Yeah, massive, you know one thing that is the new
- 4:02Speaker 4: data centers just it's not in the show, but it
- 4:04Speaker 4: occurs to me. There's the data centers, and there's the
- 4:06Speaker 4: flot cameras, And I feel like flock cameras are starting
- 4:09Speaker 4: to be slotted into that same role as the data
- 4:13Speaker 4: centers and being this like sneaky, under the surface issue
- 4:17Speaker 4: that unites people who are maybe on the left and
- 4:20Speaker 4: on the right, are just normal and hate what this
- 4:22Speaker 4: stuff stands for, and it's starting to have political ramifications.
- 4:26Speaker 4: So a quick thought, not in the show, but much
- 4:29Speaker 4: to discuss with.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Everyone likes their own flock camera, they just don't like
- 4:32Speaker 3: the other. Yes, blot cameras.
- 4:35Speaker 4: That's yeah, flot cameras everywhere at the Fish concert. I'm
- 4:40Speaker 4: sure personal flot cameras in your pocket. All right, let's
- 4:44Speaker 4: get to the show. Let's start now with this Wall
- 4:45Speaker 4: Street Journal story is an exclusive to the Journal. They
- 4:49Speaker 4: are saying Trump has approved a landmark nuclear deal with
- 4:52Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia in big win for the Kingdom. Reading a
- 4:56Speaker 4: bit from the piece, they say President Trump has formally
- 4:58Speaker 4: approved a landmark Saudi Arabia that will provide the country
- 5:02Speaker 4: with a civilian nuclear program and potentially open the door
- 5:05Speaker 4: to uranium enrichment in the Kingdom's territory. According to administration officials,
- 5:10Speaker 4: this piece popped at six A. M. Ryan quick reaction
- 5:14Speaker 4: to this development.
- 5:16Speaker 3: Well, see, this is a theocracy that is responsible, and
- 5:21Speaker 3: so we're going to provide them with nuclear weapons. They
- 5:25Speaker 3: haven't dismembered a Washington Post journalist for at least several
- 5:29Speaker 3: years at this point. They haven't launched a reckless war book. Actually,
- 5:34Speaker 3: they've brought launched several reckless wars fairly recently, So never
- 5:37Speaker 3: mind they haven't. They're led by an impulsive, authoritarian dictator
- 5:43Speaker 3: who actually has very few checks on him.
- 5:46Speaker 4: Who happened institutionally it happens to be very good friends
- 5:48Speaker 4: with the president's son in law.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Yes, the friendship between Muhammed bin Salmon and Jared Kushner
- 5:55Speaker 3: and Trump was forged with billions of dollars of bribes,
- 5:58Speaker 3: and so that may it the kind that is able
- 6:03Speaker 3: to be kind of endowed with a nuclear proliferation agreement
- 6:07Speaker 3: in which we proliferate nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia, which,
- 6:12Speaker 3: by the way, credibly involved in the attack on nine
- 6:16Speaker 3: to eleven.
- 6:17Speaker 4: Yeah, now they say the new Deal, Fine, it gets
- 6:20Speaker 4: better because this is going to last for thirty years.
- 6:22Speaker 4: According to the Wall Street Journal, the new Deal, which
- 6:23Speaker 4: would last thirty years, is estimated to be worth tens
- 6:25Speaker 4: of billions of dollars. It is designed to give American
- 6:28Speaker 4: companies a central role in developing Saudi Arabia's nuclear infrastructure
- 6:32Speaker 4: while shutting out other foreign competitors. The journal says a
- 6:36Speaker 4: key provision of the new accord would have American companies
- 6:38Speaker 4: built a uranium enrichment facility in Saudi Arabia if a
- 6:41Speaker 4: joint US Saudi study determines such a step would be warranted.
- 6:45Speaker 4: So very trumpion Kushionarian, if that's a word, to bring
- 6:50Speaker 4: in the American companies and make the deal worth tens
- 6:53Speaker 4: of billions of dollars for apparently at least thirty years
- 6:57Speaker 4: in Saudi Arabia.
- 6:58Speaker 3: I just so happy for everybody involved. Meanwhile, Trump is
- 7:02Speaker 3: moving forward with his attacks on Iran. Overnight, there were
- 7:08Speaker 3: continue to continue to American air strikes across Iran, and
- 7:11Speaker 3: he's claiming that he's going to attack pick Axe Mountain.
- 7:16Speaker 3: If you're confused about where this Pickaxe Mountain is coming from,
- 7:18Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's part of the Natanz nuclear complex.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Why is he calling it pick Axe? Well, because you're
- 7:26Speaker 3: not an idiot and you heard it. You were like
- 7:27Speaker 3: wait a minute, in the Tans, didn't we obliterate that
- 7:31Speaker 3: in the Twelve Day War last year? Yeah, we were
- 7:35Speaker 3: told we obliterated it. So if we're going to attack
- 7:38Speaker 3: it again, we have to rename it so that people
- 7:41Speaker 3: don't realize we're attacking the same thing. So there's another
- 7:46Speaker 3: hole in the mountain like a mile away or half
- 7:48Speaker 3: a mile away from what we previously bombed that.
- 7:50Speaker 4: We call it Pickaxe Mountain.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Pick Axe Mountain. That's what this Trump says he's going
- 7:54Speaker 3: to get now in all a one, do you believe
- 7:56Speaker 3: that Iran has moved nuclear centrifuges into Ax Mountain?
- 8:00Speaker 4: And when you say we're not done yet, what is
- 8:03Speaker 4: left to finish?
- 8:03Speaker 5: Well, I think that they they may have. We don't
- 8:07Speaker 5: have it on record. All we do is read the
- 8:10Speaker 5: fake news. You know, we see the news is so
- 8:12Speaker 5: wrong so many times. So you know, maybe this one
- 8:16Speaker 5: they have right, but it's okay. It doesn't mean anything
- 8:19Speaker 5: unless they have the material. You're talking about, the centrifuges.
- 8:22Speaker 5: It doesn't mean anything unless they have the material. They
- 8:24Speaker 5: don't have. We follow the material. That's where the action is,
- 8:27Speaker 5: and we'll be hitting that area very probably pretty soon,
- 8:32Speaker 5: and there's not a thing they can do about it.
- 8:34Speaker 5: You know, normally I wouldn't say that. If I thought
- 8:37Speaker 5: they could do something about it, I would never say that.
- 8:39Speaker 5: But we'll be hitting that area pretty soon, and very heavily.
- 8:45Speaker 3: So there's Trump saying that, Okay, maybe they did move
- 8:47Speaker 3: the centrifuges, but what good is the centrifuge if you
- 8:50Speaker 3: don't have highly enriched uranium to spin in it. He
- 8:53Speaker 3: makes a very good point. So the Israeli intelligence, which
- 8:57Speaker 3: is pointing towards Pickaxe Mountain, comes out. They're like, oh, update,
- 9:01Speaker 3: by the way, we forgot to tell you that also
- 9:04Speaker 3: we can put up a two here. Is really intelligence
- 9:07Speaker 3: concludes that, yes, they also moved there and reached stockpile
- 9:13Speaker 3: there too. That's according to Israeli intelligence. I think this
- 9:16Speaker 3: sounds totally on the up and up, and you could
- 9:18Speaker 3: take this to the bank, right, Yeah.
- 9:20Speaker 4: I mean, it seemed like that is really intelligence. It's
- 9:24Speaker 4: always interesting to go back and anatomize how something goes
- 9:27Speaker 4: through the media, like the life story piece of intelligence,
- 9:31Speaker 4: as it makes its way through the media, and it
- 9:32Speaker 4: does seem like that really was the genesis of Now
- 9:35Speaker 4: everybody talking about Pickax Mountain, including of course, the President
- 9:38Speaker 4: of the United States also worth bringing back in the
- 9:41Speaker 4: Saudi nuclear deal we were just talking about further in
- 9:44Speaker 4: the Journal article, you have a quote here from the
- 9:47Speaker 4: executive director of the Non Proliferation Policy Education Center who says,
- 9:50Speaker 4: whither goes Saudi Arabia, so goes the UAE Turkey in Egypt.
- 9:53Speaker 4: The idea that this will have a happy ending is delusional.
- 9:57Speaker 4: And so just to bring it all together with nuclear proliferation,
- 10:02Speaker 4: this is the Trump administration now going after Pickax Mountain
- 10:06Speaker 4: while cutting deals with the Saudis on nuclear proliferation.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Yeah, and when it comes to things that Trump has
- 10:12Speaker 3: consistently believed in for many decades, tariffs are one of them,
- 10:17Speaker 3: thinking that Japan is ripping us off as another. They
- 10:20Speaker 3: just flipped that to China, like the nineties. Being against
- 10:24Speaker 3: nuclear proliferation is one of them. Like if you go
- 10:26Speaker 3: back to there's interviews from the eighties. He's been concerned
- 10:29Speaker 3: about nuclear power, yes, nucar weapons and their proliferation for decades.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Clearly he has a higher value in life, and that
- 10:37Speaker 3: is corruption, and so he's willing like he doesn't think
- 10:41Speaker 3: about it. There are very few things he actually believes
- 10:44Speaker 3: in and nuclear proliferation being one of them. But he
- 10:48Speaker 3: doesn't believe in it so much that he's not going
- 10:51Speaker 3: to just discard it for a couple billion dollars.
- 10:54Speaker 4: He's not even conditioning this on normalized relationships between or
- 10:59Speaker 4: normalized relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel. According to the Journal, that.
- 11:02Speaker 3: Used to be one of the hold ups there. Yeah,
- 11:05Speaker 3: it was. He's recognizing that Israel's just not going to
- 11:07Speaker 3: do it.
- 11:08Speaker 4: He also said on Truth Social this is our next element.
- 11:11Speaker 4: We can pop up on the screen. Enough is enough,
- 11:13Speaker 4: No more talks because they just lie. It's time to
- 11:16Speaker 4: all caps finish the job. So what that is going
- 11:21Speaker 4: to look like still a bit unclear. If we move
- 11:24Speaker 4: on to A three B. What you're seeing here, according
- 11:28Speaker 4: to drop site analysis, is basically US striking Auran for
- 11:33Speaker 4: the eleventh straight night overnight, as air defenses were activated
- 11:36Speaker 4: over at Tehran. Explosions were reported across Iran overnight and
- 11:40Speaker 4: eleventh consecutive night of US attacks, with air defenses activating
- 11:43Speaker 4: over Tehran for the first time in the current round
- 11:46Speaker 4: of escalation. That's according to Al Jazeera. In Tehran, the
- 11:50Speaker 4: strikes hit a military base inta breeze. That's in the
- 11:53Speaker 4: northwest of Iran for a second straight day, and then
- 11:56Speaker 4: explosions were reported in three different cities and one overlooking
- 12:00Speaker 4: the Strait of Hormuz. USCOM said it targeted Iran's maritime capabilities,
- 12:05Speaker 4: strone facilities and aircraft hangars, describing the campaign as an
- 12:08Speaker 4: effort to degrade Tran's ability to threaten shipping through the
- 12:12Speaker 4: Strait of Hormuz. And then the IRGC vowed to keep
- 12:14Speaker 4: operating to punish quote the aggressor and Iran's rhetoric escalating
- 12:20Speaker 4: significantly Ryan in recent days as well, if that's even
- 12:22Speaker 4: possible for escalation at this point, but clearly there's always.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Room, yes, And so if you remember, was it last
- 12:30Speaker 3: week we discussed the US strike on a dormitory housing
- 12:36Speaker 3: conscripts in Iran. Iran vowed to retaliate for that because,
- 12:42Speaker 3: like we were saying at the time, okay, you're in
- 12:44Speaker 3: the military, it's plausibly that's a military target, but there's
- 12:49Speaker 3: something unspoken that just like killing people in their sleep
- 12:54Speaker 3: is just it's not gentlemanly, maybe we could say. And
- 12:58Speaker 3: so Iran vowed a time, okay, we're going to respect
- 13:00Speaker 3: and so they had been run up until now had
- 13:03Speaker 3: mostly been targeting military infrastructure, the early warning satellite systems,
- 13:07Speaker 3: all of our multi billion dollar pieces of what are
- 13:09Speaker 3: now smoldering junk that we had lying around the Gulf.
- 13:13Speaker 3: They now appear to have moved to targeting actual service
- 13:18Speaker 3: members and so we can actually put up roll a
- 13:21Speaker 3: three C. This is This is a footage that was
- 13:25Speaker 3: posted from a base in Jordan by a service member.
- 13:28Speaker 3: You can hear the warnings, you know, coming from the
- 13:33Speaker 3: sirens and everybody just kind of scrambling to get to
- 13:39Speaker 3: the safest place that they can before the ballistic missiles hit,
- 13:43Speaker 3: which you have. You now have you know, much less
- 13:46Speaker 3: time to do this because they have hit so many
- 13:51Speaker 3: of the early warning radar sites and so the missiles
- 13:55Speaker 3: are getting much closer. In some cases you're seeing video
- 13:58Speaker 3: of strikes impacting without even hearing the sirens. Or in
- 14:05Speaker 3: Kuwait you might hear the siren for you know, eight
- 14:08Speaker 3: seconds and then building it and a building has hit nearby,
- 14:13Speaker 3: or Bahrain you might You're unlikely to get even eight seconds.
- 14:18Speaker 3: We can add in post this is something I put
- 14:20Speaker 3: up on Twitter last night. Of sorts sent to me
- 14:23Speaker 3: two photos of the results of the attack on tower
- 14:28Speaker 3: twenty two, which is a base in Jordan, and there
- 14:31Speaker 3: you can see that the dorms were just completely annihilated.
- 14:35Speaker 3: I was told that there were no fatalities, but a
- 14:38Speaker 3: significant number of traumatic brain injuries as a result of
- 14:41Speaker 3: this attack. And they've they've evacuated this quite you know, influential,
- 14:46Speaker 3: you know, and at one time powerful base as a
- 14:49Speaker 3: result of them being unable to fend off drone and
- 14:53Speaker 3: ballistic missile attacks. It's also told that that they are
- 14:58Speaker 3: shifting from the shot head to thirty six is down
- 15:00Speaker 3: only to thirty one. Basically the point being that they're
- 15:03Speaker 3: sending smaller drones which are harder as you can imagine,
- 15:09Speaker 3: to shoot out of the sky, so that the bigger
- 15:11Speaker 3: ones obviously pack a bigger punch and have a longer range,
- 15:14Speaker 3: but the smaller ones are you know, much more able
- 15:18Speaker 3: to kind of weave their way through American air defenses.
- 15:25Speaker 3: President Trump has found the guy responsible for all of this.
- 15:30Speaker 3: It's the Jordanian air defense operators. He did he figured
- 15:34Speaker 3: this out. So demerits to that guy. So let's go
- 15:38Speaker 3: to A four.
- 15:39Speaker 5: They did slip something through in Jordan, and if we
- 15:43Speaker 5: had other operators, you know, would have not happened, unfortunately,
- 15:49Speaker 5: But we because we have the best equipment in the world.
- 15:52Speaker 5: You know, we've stopped almost everything. But when you let
- 15:55Speaker 5: other people do your job. With the United States, who
- 15:58Speaker 5: let other people do the job, and sometimes it doesn't
- 16:00Speaker 5: work out.
- 16:00Speaker 3: So well, oh yeah, Trump never fails. He can only
- 16:06Speaker 3: be failed.
- 16:07Speaker 4: He said they slipped something through in Jordan. Three American
- 16:13Speaker 4: soldiers died in Georgian hundred wounded, Isabella Gonzalez Tyler Fienn
- 16:19Speaker 4: and on how romper sought in addition to another death
- 16:21Speaker 4: that occurred. I think it was in rock over the weekend.
- 16:24Speaker 4: That's what Slipping something through in Jordan is right.
- 16:28Speaker 3: And that's right. And so that's three people who would
- 16:33Speaker 3: be alive if Trump had just stuck with the MoU Yeah.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Plus the fourth in Iraq who was apparently nearby when
- 16:41Speaker 3: they were trying to detonate an unexploded drone and was
- 16:45Speaker 3: killed in the explosion. Plus then we're talking about ast
- 16:49Speaker 3: at least one hundred casualties. Some of them probably be
- 16:52Speaker 3: suffering with it from the results of it for the
- 16:55Speaker 3: rest of the rest of their lives. There's a lot
- 16:57Speaker 3: of complaints that the medical attention they're getting is extremely
- 17:01Speaker 3: substandard even when they get flown to Germany, which at
- 17:05Speaker 3: Tammy Baldwin was bringing this up in Senate yesterday. It's
- 17:08Speaker 3: like we've been doing this for twenty five thirty years, Like,
- 17:10Speaker 3: how do you not have better medical care for people
- 17:14Speaker 3: who were paying the price here for this absolute folly. Meanwhile,
- 17:22Speaker 3: Besileel Smotridge thinks this is in fact actually the best
- 17:26Speaker 3: of all worlds. Let's put up a five rather startling
- 17:30Speaker 3: remark from Smotrich, reported by Amed Siegel, who's very close
- 17:33Speaker 3: to Benjamin net Yahoo Finance Minister Smotridge after the lengthy
- 17:38Speaker 3: security discussion last night. He says, quote, the State of
- 17:41Speaker 3: Israel has no interest in joining the contained confrontation between
- 17:45Speaker 3: Iran and the United States. The current situation is the
- 17:49Speaker 3: best one for US. Rather crass, I think, after four
- 17:54Speaker 3: American service members are killed and Iran continues to oblit
- 18:00Speaker 3: rate our all of the military infrastructure that we've built
- 18:05Speaker 3: up in the in the Gulf to protect Israel, by
- 18:08Speaker 3: the way, like we built we built it to protect Israel.
- 18:12Speaker 3: But as we said at the top of the program,
- 18:14Speaker 3: the American warplanes continue to strike a run. So that's
- 18:18Speaker 3: what that's what Smotrich means like he's he's completely content
- 18:22Speaker 3: with that, and Israel can use its time to continue
- 18:26Speaker 3: to destroy villages in Lebanon and continue to launch daily
- 18:32Speaker 3: attacks in Gaza despite having agreed to a ceasefire, and
- 18:36Speaker 3: continue to try to push their imaginary yellow line deeper
- 18:39Speaker 3: and deeper into Gaza. And luckily for Smotrich, according to
- 18:44Speaker 3: Fox News or this Fox News guest, you know, he
- 18:47Speaker 3: might get the best of all worlds for another twenty
- 18:49Speaker 3: years or so. Let's roll a six. How much longer
- 18:53Speaker 3: do you expect this to go on? And do you
- 18:54Speaker 3: think munition should be a limitation at this point? What
- 18:57Speaker 3: do you hear?
- 19:00Speaker 5: No, I don't think.
- 19:01Speaker 6: You know, the Pentagon has done a great job of
- 19:04Speaker 6: restocking the munitions. I don't think that's an issue at all,
- 19:08Speaker 6: But I can I do expect that we're going to
- 19:10Speaker 6: be there a long time. You know, Operation Northern Southern
- 19:13Speaker 6: Watch went on for almost twenty years. I think so,
- 19:16Speaker 6: I think this is going to be something similar. We're
- 19:17Speaker 6: going to have to stay there. Those guys aren't going
- 19:20Speaker 6: to change their behavior. We have to adapt, and I think,
- 19:24Speaker 6: you know, we're going to have to get the gold
- 19:25Speaker 6: States and those who rely on the oil coming from
- 19:28Speaker 6: the Gold States to help pay for this.
- 19:30Speaker 3: Curious for a take on this, because I thought that
- 19:31Speaker 3: was an extra revealing remark. He's talking about Operation Northern
- 19:35Speaker 3: Watch there, which is a reference to how in the
- 19:39Speaker 3: nineteen nineties the US had a no fly zone over
- 19:44Speaker 3: Iraq and would just bomb it like once or twice
- 19:47Speaker 3: a week and sanctioned it to death. In the seventies
- 19:52Speaker 3: and eighties, Iraq was the wealthiest country in the Middle East.
- 19:57Speaker 3: It was very it was very powerful, and then in
- 20:01Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one there was what seemed to be a
- 20:04Speaker 3: deliberate miscommunication between the US and Iraq and which we
- 20:07Speaker 3: greenlit them going into Kuwait. We then launched the First
- 20:12Speaker 3: Gulf War, and after that we Israel considered Iraq to be,
- 20:19Speaker 3: you know, its greatest kind of jew strategic threat in
- 20:22Speaker 3: the region. Tsaddami same it was very sympathetic to the
- 20:25Speaker 3: Palestinian cause, and so we spend the nineties just bombing
- 20:31Speaker 3: the hell out of Iraq and sanctioning them, and then
- 20:35Speaker 3: once it was sufficiently weakened in two thousand and three,
- 20:37Speaker 3: we went in and we topple it. And so what
- 20:40Speaker 3: he's suggesting there is that that should be the roadmap
- 20:43Speaker 3: for Iran that we just spend ten years just like
- 20:46Speaker 3: bombing it once or twice a week, and then maybe
- 20:49Speaker 3: twenty thirty five we can send some troops in there
- 20:52Speaker 3: and just push over what's left of it.
- 20:54Speaker 4: Well, and as always, it's worth popping the general's name
- 20:58Speaker 4: anytime you see a talking head on Fox News that's
- 21:00Speaker 4: very excited Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. Honestly, that seems to
- 21:05Speaker 4: be analyzing a war as a never ending one that
- 21:08Speaker 4: might involve years of conflict.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Who does he worked for, let's hear it.
- 21:12Speaker 4: Oh, he's a founder of his own AI company that
- 21:17Speaker 4: happens to have contracts with the Pentagon, and it's a
- 21:21Speaker 4: data center. It's a micro data center company. It's called Semper.
- 21:24Speaker 4: Actually just did a whole write up of his company
- 21:27Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty one. He's also a senior fellow
- 21:29Speaker 4: at the Hudson Institute, which of course gets a significant
- 21:31Speaker 4: amount of money from defense contractors. So no surprise to
- 21:35Speaker 4: hear Spalding thinking this just might take a long.
- 21:38Speaker 3: Time, just pulled himself up by his bootstraps. Yes, well,
- 21:44Speaker 3: see hard work rewarded now.
- 21:46Speaker 4: Secretary of HEGSA, speaking of money from or four the
- 21:49Speaker 4: Department of War Secretary Hegseth was on Capitol Hill yesterday
- 21:53Speaker 4: asking for what was it run? Like seventy billion more dollars?
- 21:56Speaker 3: He said the sixty seven billion I think he wants, right, Yeah,
- 21:59Speaker 3: and he said the war que amount for a organization
- 22:02Speaker 3: that doesn't know how to count its money every year.
- 22:04Speaker 4: Well, the price tag for the Iran war, according to
- 22:07Speaker 4: testimony from Dan Cain and Pete Hegseth yesterday, is now
- 22:10Speaker 4: up to thirty seven and a half billion. Actually, how
- 22:12Speaker 4: do they know that'stified?
- 22:13Speaker 3: They can't. They don't know how to do an audit.
- 22:15Speaker 3: How do they even know they're out of money?
- 22:17Speaker 4: Thirty seven and a half?
- 22:18Speaker 3: Like, we're out of money? Like, how do you know
- 22:19Speaker 3: you're out of money?
- 22:20Speaker 4: Not thirty seven?
- 22:21Speaker 3: Again, there's money somewhere.
- 22:22Speaker 4: I check out of the couch. Well, anyway, he was
- 22:25Speaker 4: confronted by Senator John Ossoff. Let's take a look here
- 22:29Speaker 4: a day seven.
- 22:29Speaker 7: You stated on March eighth, day nine of the war,
- 22:32Speaker 7: on sixty minutes, you assured the American people of Iranian surrender.
- 22:36Speaker 7: Does that remain your prediction?
- 22:40Speaker 2: Ultimately, Iran will never have a nuclear weapon to threatn
- 22:43Speaker 2: in the United States of America.
- 22:44Speaker 4: That has been the objective and it remains so.
- 22:47Speaker 7: So just to review, you will not answer whether your
- 22:50Speaker 7: statement made on the fourteenth day of the war that
- 22:53Speaker 7: Iran's military had been quote destroyed and made combat ineffective
- 22:57Speaker 7: was a truthful statement to the American people. As you
- 23:00Speaker 7: sit here and ask for tens of billions more.
- 23:02Speaker 6: The senator's time has been a historic and effective military
- 23:06Speaker 6: campaign against the largest state sponsor of terrorists.
- 23:08Speaker 3: And answer the question.
- 23:09Speaker 4: I meanwhile, Splet's screen here on Capitol Hill, Mike Johnson,
- 23:14Speaker 4: Speaker Mike Johnson, who's looking at potentially becoming minority leader.
- 23:17Speaker 4: Mike Johnson is a little bit more concerned about the
- 23:22Speaker 4: timeline of the war. Let's take a leston.
- 23:24Speaker 8: The administration is working very hard, the Commander Chief and
- 23:27Speaker 8: the whole Department of War working very hard to bring
- 23:30Speaker 8: this to a resolution. There's a lot of discussions about
- 23:33Speaker 8: how that will be done. We're all closely watching those developments.
- 23:37Speaker 8: Of course, I don't think an aumth is in order
- 23:40Speaker 8: right now. I think we need to bring this to
- 23:42Speaker 8: a resolution. Look, I think it's important for all of
- 23:45Speaker 8: our international partners, is my personal view, to have a
- 23:49Speaker 8: role in this I mean, we've got all of our
- 23:51Speaker 8: alleg nations through NATO, We've got the Arab countries over there,
- 23:54Speaker 8: the Gulf states that are in closest proximity to Iran.
- 23:57Speaker 8: Iran is now fired on all of its neighbors, and
- 24:00Speaker 8: they're turning everybody in the world into an enemy. And
- 24:03Speaker 8: I think this is an important moment of history for
- 24:06Speaker 8: all of the world community to decide how they want
- 24:08Speaker 8: to handle this. It shouldn't just be America's obligation. My
- 24:12Speaker 8: view is that everybody needs to play a role, so
- 24:14Speaker 8: we'll see how that develops. I think we have to
- 24:16Speaker 8: allow the space to do that, and I know that
- 24:19Speaker 8: this administration is working around the clock to resolve that
- 24:21Speaker 8: in a way so they don't suffer any more true losses.
- 24:24Speaker 8: This is a great tragedy. It shouldn't happen, but it
- 24:27Speaker 8: is a very important, very important objective that I believe
- 24:31Speaker 8: we've achieved to ensure that the largest sponsor of state
- 24:34Speaker 8: of a terrorism does not have a nuclear weapon that
- 24:37Speaker 8: would be a disaster for everybody, and everybody around the
- 24:39Speaker 8: world understands that. Now we've got to wrap it up subtle.
- 24:42Speaker 4: But you probably caught at the end there him saying
- 24:44Speaker 4: we need to wrap it up. There's no need for
- 24:45Speaker 4: an AUMF specific to this Iran war. Got to resolve it,
- 24:50Speaker 4: because we just got to wrap it up, Brian. And
- 24:52Speaker 4: you know what, maybe I agree with that at this
- 24:53Speaker 4: point if we don't need to have an AOMF, because
- 24:57Speaker 4: you guys would rather just wrap it up by all means,
- 24:59Speaker 4: wrap it up.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Also, they've already voted, they passed a War Powers resolution
- 25:03Speaker 3: ending the war. Amazing Congress did that, great work. Yeah,
- 25:09Speaker 3: so yeah, wrap it up.
- 25:10Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well, Ryan, let's talk now about Lebanon.
- 25:16Speaker 4: Also crucial to this entire conversation about the negotiations in Iraq.
- 25:20Speaker 4: Trump was saying yesterday that he's it was going back
- 25:24Speaker 4: and forth and whether or not he's negotiating with Ron,
- 25:27Speaker 4: he would be willing to center our Secretary of Rubio
- 25:31Speaker 4: in the same kind of vein fluctuating on whether or
- 25:34Speaker 4: not they're willing to talk publicly, privately all of that.
- 25:37Speaker 4: So let's move over to Lebanon, because Donald Trump was
- 25:40Speaker 4: with the President of Lebanon yesterday in the White House.
- 25:42Speaker 3: Yeah, and so Treta parcy had flagged. And you can
- 25:45Speaker 3: put this element up on the screen, this wall Street
- 25:47Speaker 3: Journal article that floats the various ways that the US
- 25:52Speaker 3: is exploring the idea of basically sparking a civil war
- 25:57Speaker 3: inside of Lebanon. And I wanted to just read a
- 26:01Speaker 3: little bit from this Wall Street Journal article because I think,
- 26:05Speaker 3: just hearing how the mainstream media writes about it, you,
- 26:09Speaker 3: as a normal person, will be able to immediately spot
- 26:12Speaker 3: all of the problems with this proposal. So the journal
- 26:17Speaker 3: rights Israel has battered the Lebanes militia Hesbela over two
- 26:21Speaker 3: years of fighting. Many Lebanes are turning against the militant group,
- 26:24Speaker 3: and there's growing consensus in Beirut that Hesbela must finally
- 26:27Speaker 3: be forced to give up its weapons. But American Israeli
- 26:31Speaker 3: in Lebany's officials are finding there are no easy options
- 26:33Speaker 3: to disarm a US designated terrorist group that is embedded
- 26:37Speaker 3: in society and bound to its cause with religious zeal.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Complicating matters is Israel's invasion of Lebanon and its continuing
- 26:45Speaker 3: occupation of swaths of the country's south, creating a point
- 26:49Speaker 3: of tension with Beirut, just when the two countries leaders
- 26:52Speaker 3: are aligned on disarming Hesbela, and then they go on
- 26:57Speaker 3: to say that dilemma has opened the way for once
- 27:00Speaker 3: unthinkable ideas pushing ahead. US Israeli and Lebanese officials are
- 27:03Speaker 3: pushing ahead with a plan to train and vet elite
- 27:06Speaker 3: units of the Lebanese armed forces. The idea here they
- 27:09Speaker 3: will train these Lebanese armed forces and then Israel will
- 27:13Speaker 3: then kind of after training them, turn over the occupation
- 27:16Speaker 3: of southern Lebanon to them. But I just love this
- 27:19Speaker 3: delightful line in here. Complicating matters is Israel's invasion of Lebanon.
- 27:24Speaker 3: Small matter and a mere complexity does make it a
- 27:29Speaker 3: little extrac a wrinkle, we'll agree with that. The piece
- 27:33Speaker 3: then goes on to kind of try to disentangle this
- 27:36Speaker 3: complexity which comes primarily from well lots of different elements,
- 27:41Speaker 3: but the fact that Hesbela is a key element of
- 27:45Speaker 3: the Lebanese military. There are Hesbela sympathetic and Hesbola linked
- 27:52Speaker 3: people who make up significant swaths of the Lebanese armed forces.
- 27:58Speaker 3: And so anytime the Lebanese arm fource verses try to
- 28:01Speaker 3: move against Hesbela, Hesbela gets tipped off immediately because they
- 28:06Speaker 3: are in there because they are Lebanese. Complicating matters. Yeah,
- 28:12Speaker 3: So then they go on to say, well, maybe we
- 28:16Speaker 3: can get al Shara two. You know, like, they don't
- 28:23Speaker 3: even say they're gonna get Alshara, who's the you know,
- 28:25Speaker 3: Syrian president, to go to war against Hezbela. What the
- 28:28Speaker 3: journal is suggesting here is that they'll get al Shara
- 28:31Speaker 3: to cut off the supply lines between Iran and hesblah.
- 28:39Speaker 3: That would be a plausible thing that you could do,
- 28:41Speaker 3: and is a reason that Israel wanted to overthrow Aside
- 28:47Speaker 3: and replace him with al Shara. The problem is Israel
- 28:50Speaker 3: couldn't help itself, and as soon as al Shara took over, Israel,
- 28:55Speaker 3: through a series of air strikes, obliterated the entire national
- 29:01Speaker 3: security infrastructure available to al Shara, blew up every truck,
- 29:05Speaker 3: every tank, every plane, everything capable of firing a shell.
- 29:11Speaker 3: And so now Israel is saying, oh, hey, can you
- 29:13Speaker 3: go ahead and use your state apparatus to intercept the
- 29:19Speaker 3: smuggling that is going on between Iran and Hezwa and
- 29:22Speaker 3: Alshara is like, yeah, about our state apparatus, you may
- 29:29Speaker 3: recall or may not recall. You destroyed it all, Yeah,
- 29:34Speaker 3: so sorry, we can't. So then you could build them
- 29:39Speaker 3: back up, but that would create state capacity on the
- 29:44Speaker 3: part of Syria. Israel has said that their strategic assessment
- 29:49Speaker 3: is that state capacity itself is a threat to Israel.
- 29:54Speaker 3: They don't care if a country is threatening them, if
- 29:58Speaker 3: they have the capacity to threaten them, they consider that
- 30:02Speaker 3: a geostrategic vulnerability. So they want to degrade every state
- 30:06Speaker 3: near them to the point where they don't even have
- 30:09Speaker 3: the capacity to think about challenging Israel. So they want
- 30:13Speaker 3: Syria to have the state capacity to intercept the smuggling roots.
- 30:19Speaker 3: But they don't want Syria to have any state capacity
- 30:21Speaker 3: because then that could be used to challenge Israel's occupation
- 30:27Speaker 3: of the Goal On Heights and increasing occupation further north
- 30:30Speaker 3: towards Damascus. So the entire idea here is completely convoluted.
- 30:39Speaker 3: Unless all they want is just a giant civil war
- 30:42Speaker 3: to go on for decades, then maybe they could get
- 30:44Speaker 3: that if you send it enough weapons and train enough
- 30:48Speaker 3: quote unquote Lebanese special forces or elite units.
- 30:52Speaker 4: It put the Lebanese president in a rather interesting position
- 30:54Speaker 4: yesterday as he was meeting President Trump at the White House.
- 30:57Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to a flavor of their conversation
- 30:59Speaker 4: in front reporters.
- 31:00Speaker 5: Be too, mister President, it's an honor having you. Thank
- 31:03Speaker 5: you very much. Other Oh, thank you, thank you. I'll
- 31:06Speaker 5: be looking forward this visit forty long time.
- 31:08Speaker 3: Thank you. Meeting such a great president like yourself.
- 31:11Speaker 5: That's a very nice thing. So he knows how to
- 31:13Speaker 5: get to me. Now we have anything, would you like
- 31:18Speaker 5: to say?
- 31:19Speaker 4: Well, the meeting finished, and the Donald Trump posted untrue
- 31:22Speaker 4: social that after it, he says, I am hereby directing
- 31:26Speaker 4: my administration to allow all US airline carriers to fly
- 31:30Speaker 4: directly to Lebanon so that Americans can easily visit this
- 31:34Speaker 4: beautiful land. Hopefully other countries will do the same. Enjoy
- 31:38Speaker 4: President Donald J. Trump. Now, Ryan, I'd love to go
- 31:41Speaker 4: to Lebanon.
- 31:42Speaker 3: I'm not sure now's the time, a little weekend.
- 31:45Speaker 4: Especially in the context you've just laid out about the
- 31:48Speaker 4: ambitions for potentially a civil war.
- 31:51Speaker 3: We got friends there. Well, we'll make sure you're taking
- 31:53Speaker 3: care of there. It'll be fine. At first, I read
- 31:56Speaker 3: that as all airlines will go directly to land.
- 31:59Speaker 4: Every single are not going to Detroit anymore.
- 32:02Speaker 3: No, everyone's going to everyone's going to Lebanon. There haven't
- 32:05Speaker 3: been direct flights from the US to Bay route since
- 32:07Speaker 3: I think nineteen eighty five. When there was a h
- 32:11Speaker 3: haswell linked. I think it was heslolinked. I don't know
- 32:14Speaker 3: enough about it to confirm that. But hijacking, I think
- 32:17Speaker 3: a plane that was flying from like Rome to Athens
- 32:20Speaker 3: or something got hijacked and FLOWNDA FLOWNDA Bay route and
- 32:22Speaker 3: Reagan was like okay, Reagan had already taken all the
- 32:25Speaker 3: Marines out, and I was like, okay, no more, no
- 32:28Speaker 3: more flights either. But yeah, so Trump and Owner, you know,
- 32:34Speaker 3: clearly making making making it forming a bond.
- 32:39Speaker 4: What that's gonna What that does politically to Lebanon is
- 32:42Speaker 4: an interesting question. Yeah, look to the competing factions for
- 32:45Speaker 4: power in Lebanon.
- 32:47Speaker 3: Yeah. Meanwhile, the agreement that Trump has with the with
- 32:52Speaker 3: the Houthis interestingly remains in place. The Houthis over the
- 32:55Speaker 3: last couple of days announced we'll announced that they actually
- 32:59Speaker 3: could start with it. You put up B six that
- 33:03Speaker 3: they they announced that any ships docking in Saudi Saudi
- 33:09Speaker 3: ports or any Saudi flagged ships are now banned from
- 33:13Speaker 3: going through the Babel Mendeb Straight, which is the way
- 33:16Speaker 3: that oil has been basically flowing. You know, it would
- 33:19Speaker 3: go across a pipeline to a Saudi port and then
- 33:23Speaker 3: through the Red Sea south over to Asia. What it
- 33:26Speaker 3: has to do now is go up through the Mediterranean.
- 33:29Speaker 3: If if it if it gets struggled. All if you
- 33:32Speaker 3: want to have some fun, you can pause that video
- 33:35Speaker 3: and read the actual like healthy statements. They're also over
- 33:37Speaker 3: the top, kind of kind of crazy. Uh, the the
- 33:44Speaker 3: A B five some Saudi tankers. You can put this
- 33:48Speaker 3: up are all you know. I've already made U turns
- 33:51Speaker 3: immediately after this this warning because they have seen that
- 33:55Speaker 3: the the yemen forces there have the ability to those
- 34:00Speaker 3: strikes out. But interestingly, the US and Yemen still have
- 34:04Speaker 3: a ceasefire in place because it's a bilateral ceasefire, doesn't
- 34:08Speaker 3: involve anybody else. It's just between us and them. And
- 34:11Speaker 3: Trump observed that that it's still in place, but threatened
- 34:16Speaker 3: that if it, if it falls apart, he'll quote unquote
- 34:19Speaker 3: take care of it. Let's listen to Trump in the
- 34:21Speaker 3: Oval office. This is before the level of.
- 34:24Speaker 5: Concern of a blockade of the Red Sea by the
- 34:28Speaker 5: hoothy rebels opening up another front.
- 34:31Speaker 4: In the war.
- 34:31Speaker 5: What happens so far, it hasn't happened, might happen, but
- 34:35Speaker 5: we take care of things. If something like that happens,
- 34:37Speaker 5: we take care of it. You know, we've done that
- 34:40Speaker 5: with the Hooties before, and we haven't heard from them
- 34:43Speaker 5: in a while since we did what we did. Originally,
- 34:46Speaker 5: it was about forty five days of very powerful action
- 34:50Speaker 5: we took against the Hooties, and we've had no problem
- 34:54Speaker 5: with the Hooties. They've had no problem with us for
- 34:57Speaker 5: a long period of time, including during this conflict. I
- 35:01Speaker 5: think that if there is something like that, we'll just
- 35:04Speaker 5: have to take care of business.
- 35:05Speaker 3: Also, that Oval Office, by the way, I just can't
- 35:08Speaker 3: get over it.
- 35:09Speaker 4: I know, it's really it's something. Have you seen the
- 35:11Speaker 4: outside of the White House? My restaurant Chic just cursive.
- 35:18Speaker 4: It's like a resort. It's like a golf resort. It's
- 35:19Speaker 4: like one of his golf resorts. I don't know why
- 35:21Speaker 4: we're on this tangent right now, but it's truly like
- 35:24Speaker 4: the Oval Office in Gold cursive outside. So you know,
- 35:27Speaker 4: when you're on a big resort campus, right that you
- 35:30Speaker 4: have entered the wreck room, you have entered the restaurant.
- 35:36Speaker 4: That's what it looks like. It's egregious. And then if
- 35:40Speaker 4: you if you want a little laugh, you just turn
- 35:43Speaker 4: over and you see on the wall the Autopen under.
- 35:46Speaker 3: Joe Biden's name, the actual autopen.
- 35:49Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he is a picture of the Autopen instead
- 35:52Speaker 4: of Joe Biden's portrait is all the other presidential portraits
- 35:55Speaker 4: and Biden it's a picture of an autopen. It's actually real,
- 36:00Speaker 4: actually really can confirm. I have seen it with my
- 36:02Speaker 4: own eyes.
- 36:03Speaker 3: Amazing.
- 36:04Speaker 4: Yeah, it's something, but truly. The region in chaos right now.
- 36:09Speaker 4: But don't you worry. Donald Trump is.
- 36:11Speaker 3: At the helm. Yeah, and so this is good. Yeah,
- 36:14Speaker 3: if Saudi Arabia is crimped from exporting it's several million
- 36:18Speaker 3: barrels per day through the Red Sea. The ability of
- 36:23Speaker 3: the US, like we're still drawing down our strategical petroleum reserve,
- 36:27Speaker 3: Like yep, the latest we heard from our government expert.
- 36:32Speaker 3: It's like, you know what, maybe we can go a
- 36:34Speaker 3: little bit lower on the petroleum reserve then we thought
- 36:38Speaker 3: we could before. So we can. And as somebody pointed
- 36:41Speaker 3: out on Twitter, like we're the US is just basically
- 36:44Speaker 3: driving with the light on at this point, the gas
- 36:48Speaker 3: light is on, and we're like this is fine, next
- 36:50Speaker 3: exit twenty two miles. Yeah, we can make this.
- 36:52Speaker 4: We do that with basically all of our policy right now,
- 36:55Speaker 4: there's the gas, there's the debt. We're just we can
- 36:58Speaker 4: keep making it a futures down to your point, basically
- 37:01Speaker 4: across the board except for oil this morning, as we record,
- 37:05Speaker 4: and that probably explains what we're about to discuss in
- 37:07Speaker 4: terms of the midterm election pulling. Well, amidst this conversation
- 37:13Speaker 4: at the White House with the head of Lennon yesterday. Yesterday,
- 37:16Speaker 4: Donald Trump got a question about the midterms.
- 37:19Speaker 7: Here's what he said, Well, you believe that Iran is
- 37:22Speaker 7: trying to impact the midterm elections by threatening the street
- 37:25Speaker 7: of four hours.
- 37:26Speaker 5: They won't have any impact on me.
- 37:28Speaker 3: I'm just going to do the right thing.
- 37:29Speaker 5: I don't view it as having an election in a
- 37:32Speaker 5: period of time, and everyone says, oh, I'm doing something
- 37:35Speaker 5: before now the election. I can't think about that having
- 37:40Speaker 5: to do with this. I think people are very impressed.
- 37:43Speaker 5: I mean, we took over Venezuela. We now have a
- 37:46Speaker 5: great relationship with Venezuela. We went to war with Venezuela
- 37:50Speaker 5: and the war ended in one day.
- 37:53Speaker 4: What he said there was it won't affect me, which
- 37:56Speaker 4: is exactly what is getting so deep unto the skin
- 38:00Speaker 4: of Republican operatives around the country and certainly here in Washington,
- 38:03Speaker 4: d C. Yesterday Fox News ruled out updated power rankings
- 38:08Speaker 4: for the House and the Senate that spelled disaster for Republicans.
- 38:14Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and roll first here the Senate power rankings.
- 38:18Speaker 4: Take a listen to Bill Maligion.
- 38:20Speaker 9: Beginning with the Senate forecast, Fox News is projecting that
- 38:24Speaker 9: control of the Senate is essentially just a toss up
- 38:26Speaker 9: right now, with the balance of power likely coming down
- 38:29Speaker 9: to Senate seats in four states that are all considered
- 38:32Speaker 9: coin flips right now. Those four states are colored in yellow.
- 38:36Speaker 9: Fox News projects that Alaska, Iowa, Ohio, and Maine all
- 38:40Speaker 9: have Senate races that are all toss ups. These are
- 38:43Speaker 9: the matchups that will likely end up determining control of
- 38:46Speaker 9: the Senate now.
- 38:47Speaker 3: Republicans are lying a handful.
- 38:48Speaker 9: Of potential Senate pickups in Georgia, New Hampshire, and Michigan,
- 38:52Speaker 9: all of which Fox News Power rankings project as leaning Democrat,
- 38:56Speaker 9: while Democrats think they can flip Texas, which obviously lean Republican.
- 39:01Speaker 4: So a couple of takeaways here not at all surprising
- 39:03Speaker 4: if you've been following the developments, But they have Michigan
- 39:06Speaker 4: leaning dem They have North Carolina leaning DEM. I think
- 39:09Speaker 4: that's abundantly clear from the polling that North Carolina, as
- 39:12Speaker 4: of right now, at least unless there's some black swan event,
- 39:15Speaker 4: will likely be on election day leaning DEM. Ohio listed
- 39:20Speaker 4: as a toss up, Alaska listed as a toss up.
- 39:22Speaker 4: Ohio particularly interesting, very big struggle for Republicans. They didn't
- 39:27Speaker 4: expect to have such a significant struggle in Ohio at
- 39:30Speaker 4: this point. But that's exactly what happens coming back. Yeah, absolutely,
- 39:35Speaker 4: it's exactly what happens when you get into an unpopular
- 39:37Speaker 4: Warshared Brown is up in the real Clear Politics average
- 39:39Speaker 4: byzero point six at this point. Polling's been kind of
- 39:42Speaker 4: clustered together in either direction. But that's just a disaster
- 39:46Speaker 4: for Republicans at this point.
- 39:49Speaker 3: And I noticed, and you probably did too, since you
- 39:51Speaker 3: guys watched this show, that they didn't put Nebraska on
- 39:53Speaker 3: that list. Yeah, if you look closely at it, they
- 39:55Speaker 3: have it as a likely so pretty dark red YEP Republican.
- 40:00Speaker 3: I would rate Nebraska as now it's not a Democrat,
- 40:03Speaker 3: it's an independent who's running Dan Osborne. I'd rate Nebraska
- 40:06Speaker 3: as more likely to flip than Texas.
- 40:09Speaker 4: I agree with that he's running in about thirty percent
- 40:12Speaker 4: according to real Clare Politics right now.
- 40:13Speaker 3: But that can thirty percent likelihood?
- 40:18Speaker 4: You mean thirty percent in the let's doo we have here.
- 40:22Speaker 4: Looks like this is actually polymarket, So he's real good
- 40:24Speaker 4: politics integrates poly market now. Yeah, so they have him
- 40:26Speaker 4: at a thirty percent on in polymar.
- 40:29Speaker 3: Thirty that's higher than I would give tal Rico. Agree completely,
- 40:32Speaker 3: What do they give to Talerrico. It's a good question,
- 40:34Speaker 3: not that we should be promoting this guard.
- 40:36Speaker 9: Yeah, I know.
- 40:36Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be the poll and
- 40:37Speaker 4: I pulled it up and it was polymarket. It looks
- 40:40Speaker 4: like tall Ico is at forty four. Time to get
- 40:44Speaker 4: in on this one.
- 40:45Speaker 3: But yeah, so maybe a real Cleare politics is selling
- 40:48Speaker 3: out to the the polymarket to poly market here. I'm
- 40:51Speaker 3: sure they're not doing that for free. That's annoying. But
- 40:53Speaker 3: in any event, if this war continues, I think that
- 40:59Speaker 3: it gives taler Go a better chance, but also gives
- 41:03Speaker 3: Dan Osbourne and Nebraska a better chance because O and
- 41:07Speaker 3: iowas he is just getting wrecked. Turrek could plausibly win and.
- 41:12Speaker 4: He's up in the latest Fox newspol they had him plus.
- 41:15Speaker 3: Four, Iowa has been hit harder by Trump than basically
- 41:19Speaker 3: any other state. The tariffs, the cattle stuff, the soybean stuff,
- 41:26Speaker 3: like he's just killing them all over the place.
- 41:29Speaker 4: Which in the first term, you would see a lot
- 41:32Speaker 4: of sites, you'd see a lot of patients, or you'd
- 41:36Speaker 4: hear a lot of patients, particularly from Trump friendly farmers
- 41:40Speaker 4: in Trump's first administration, because they understood there needed to
- 41:43Speaker 4: be I think everybody understands there needs to be some
- 41:45Speaker 4: type of regriggering. But no question that in the second administration,
- 41:49Speaker 4: as Trump has been much more ad hoc, that patients
- 41:52Speaker 4: has likely worn't thinner in many communities around Iowa. So
- 41:56Speaker 4: on the House side, Yeah, and Maine, could I mean,
- 42:01Speaker 4: what do you think of of Maine right now? Because
- 42:03Speaker 4: Troy Jackson was up in a recent poll over Susan Collins.
- 42:06Speaker 3: Yeah, Troy Jackson doesn't have the same riz obviously as
- 42:10Speaker 3: as Platner, but to say the least. But but he's,
- 42:17Speaker 3: you know, a very credible progressive, populist, working class guy
- 42:23Speaker 3: with a lot of people and mane don't know who
- 42:26Speaker 3: he is.
- 42:27Speaker 4: But that's and so that that'll give that could be
- 42:30Speaker 4: a good thing for Democrats.
- 42:31Speaker 3: Could go both ways. Susan Collins is going to spend
- 42:34Speaker 3: you know, one hundred million dollars defining him as God
- 42:37Speaker 3: only knows what, who knows what they'll try to unearth
- 42:40Speaker 3: about him, But he's he's a very very serious candidate.
- 42:45Speaker 3: I think he's probably more likely to win than than not.
- 42:51Speaker 3: And it doesn't help Susan Collins for Trump to continue
- 42:54Speaker 3: this this war for another deep into the fall.
- 42:58Speaker 4: As a brutal one ahead. Let's take a look at
- 43:02Speaker 4: the House now. This is Fox News is House power
- 43:05Speaker 4: rankings now projecting that Democrats will take the House. And
- 43:07Speaker 4: by the way, before we leave the Senate just occurs
- 43:09Speaker 4: to me about a year ago here in Washington, talk
- 43:12Speaker 4: in geop circles was basically, we got the Senate. Don't
- 43:16Speaker 4: worry about this. Yeah, the House, we might we might
- 43:18Speaker 4: lose a little bit in the House, we might have
- 43:21Speaker 4: a slim minority. There might be a little bit of
- 43:24Speaker 4: a margin, a small margin between us and the Democrats.
- 43:26Speaker 4: We might go back into the minority, but the Senate
- 43:28Speaker 4: will almost certainly be Okay. That's what you were getting
- 43:31Speaker 4: from the kind of stages of Republican politics here in
- 43:35Speaker 4: Washington a year ago. Now, not only is that a
- 43:38Speaker 4: toss up, but of course the House is looking worse
- 43:40Speaker 4: and worse for Republicans. Let's rule new Fox News polling
- 43:43Speaker 4: again or new Fox News projections C three.
- 43:46Speaker 9: As for the House, Fox News projects that Democrats have
- 43:50Speaker 9: the lead to flip control of the House back to blue,
- 43:52Speaker 9: and they're in better shape than Republicans there. Right now,
- 43:55Speaker 9: there are sixteen House seats projected as toss ups that
- 43:58Speaker 9: will end up designing control, So Republican redistricting wins could
- 44:02Speaker 9: end up blunting some of the losses that the GOP
- 44:05Speaker 9: was potentially facing. The Fox News power rankings also show
- 44:08Speaker 9: as of right now, voters preferred Democrats on the generic
- 44:12Speaker 9: ballot against Republicans by about four percent. That's a flip
- 44:17Speaker 9: from twenty twenty four when Republicans led that by one percent.
- 44:21Speaker 9: So you're looking at about a five point swing towards
- 44:23Speaker 9: Democrats since the twenty twenty four race.
- 44:26Speaker 4: No, that's interesting, Ryan, because actually Democrats probably should have
- 44:31Speaker 4: an even bigger lead in these House races. And Harry
- 44:33Speaker 4: and ten on CNN recently was showing differences in how
- 44:36Speaker 4: Democrats are running now in the generic congressional ballot versus
- 44:39Speaker 4: two thousand and six and twenty eighteen, both blue Wave
- 44:42Speaker 4: twenty eighteen basically blue Synomi years. And they actually don't
- 44:46Speaker 4: have as big of a lead in the generic congressional
- 44:49Speaker 4: ballot right now as they did at the same points
- 44:51Speaker 4: in time twenty six and twenty eighteen. So those numbers,
- 44:55Speaker 4: I mean, sixteen toss up races Dems right now with
- 44:57Speaker 4: I think it was a three margin plus three margins
- 45:00Speaker 4: in the Fox News power rankings. If they pick up
- 45:02Speaker 4: all sixteen toss ups all ten toss ups, that's getting
- 45:06Speaker 4: in the healthier direction, but it's still going to be
- 45:08Speaker 4: a pretty slim majority for them. It's either way, we're
- 45:12Speaker 4: looking at probably more deadlock.
- 45:15Speaker 3: Yeah, in my sense, I guess this is not a
- 45:17Speaker 3: novel thought. Is that just the increasing polarization of the
- 45:21Speaker 3: country as more people just identify as either a Democrat
- 45:25Speaker 3: or a Republican or they call themselves an independent, but
- 45:28Speaker 3: they always vote Democrat or Republican.
- 45:31Speaker 4: YEP.
- 45:31Speaker 3: As that phenomenon, it continues to kind of calcify or coagulate,
- 45:38Speaker 3: you're just going to have there's less room for a wave,
- 45:42Speaker 3: Like it's a wave instead of washing up on sand,
- 45:45Speaker 3: it's washing up on granite.
- 45:47Speaker 4: To your point. In January, Gallup found a record number
- 45:50Speaker 4: of people in the United States identifying as political of
- 45:53Speaker 4: political independence. That's up to forty five percent, and it's
- 45:56Speaker 4: been a very steep industry.
- 45:57Speaker 3: They say that, but they're less independent in their behavior.
- 46:02Speaker 4: They are people who are ideological but not necessarily partisan.
- 46:06Speaker 4: They just tend to swing one direction or the other.
- 46:09Speaker 4: But that's towards populist candidates in a lot of cases.
- 46:12Speaker 4: I think that's probably where you see the increase growing up,
- 46:14Speaker 4: especially going up, especially with Trump and Bernie Sanders. It's
- 46:16Speaker 4: somebody who's a standards or Trump voter might think of
- 46:18Speaker 4: themselves as independent, but find themselves reliably voting in one
- 46:23Speaker 4: direction over the other.
- 46:24Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so no matter what happens, you're
- 46:27Speaker 3: going to have just less of a movement. Plus with
- 46:30Speaker 3: the redistricting, you really take off the board a lot
- 46:35Speaker 3: of races that might otherwise be in play.
- 46:38Speaker 4: Well what the redistricting. Republicans have had so much swagger
- 46:41Speaker 4: in the last couple of months about how they're going
- 46:43Speaker 4: to be just fine in the House of Representatives, and
- 46:45Speaker 4: again here you have Fox News projections putting them.
- 46:48Speaker 3: Like they think they might hold it at this point.
- 46:50Speaker 3: That's what They're pretty confident.
- 46:51Speaker 4: They had a new found pep in their step after
- 46:55Speaker 4: the redistricting on the Supreme Court decision.
- 46:58Speaker 3: But it's I mean, they have Democrats of no money.
- 47:01Speaker 4: Yeah, they're being outspent for sure. Which there's just a
- 47:04Speaker 4: report and playbook this morning about Democrats frustrated over their
- 47:07Speaker 4: spending disadvantage.
- 47:09Speaker 3: Trump like the entire D triple cy has like, you know,
- 47:12Speaker 3: five dollars and Haley Stevens has like seventy million dollars
- 47:16Speaker 3: being spent for her and she's gonna probably going to
- 47:18Speaker 3: lose the trip.
- 47:19Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, yes, Trump ran the table in Arizona last night.
- 47:24Speaker 4: He got Ai Biggs his endorsement, also got Karen Taylor Robson,
- 47:30Speaker 4: and it's looking like some interesting races for the fall
- 47:33Speaker 4: down there. What else happened in Arizona last night? Any
- 47:36Speaker 4: interesting DSA stuff populist the stuff.
- 47:39Speaker 3: Yes, the first first district what's his name, Amy Shah
- 47:46Speaker 3: was had like two or three million dollars spent against
- 47:51Speaker 3: him basically by a pack front groups and the D
- 47:56Speaker 3: Triple C supported his opponent, and so it's kind of
- 47:59Speaker 3: like an a D Triple C alliance and and Shah won,
- 48:04Speaker 3: and so he'll go he'll go to the general.
- 48:07Speaker 9: Uh.
- 48:08Speaker 3: Then you had in the fourth district, Kai k Newkirk,
- 48:11Speaker 3: who we had on the program, spent almost no money
- 48:16Speaker 3: and ran against Greg Stanton at a top kind of
- 48:19Speaker 3: pro business new Democrat and ended up with I think
- 48:22Speaker 3: thirty thirty plus thirty five percent or so, but so
- 48:25Speaker 3: not not terribly close, but he got a much bigger
- 48:29Speaker 3: chunk than an incumbent would like to see from somebody
- 48:33Speaker 3: who spent like a honor grand or something.
- 48:35Speaker 2: Wow.
- 48:36Speaker 3: Yeah, and nobody voted like the the like if you
- 48:40Speaker 3: look at the actual turnout, yeah, here, So in the
- 48:45Speaker 3: first district you've got Ami Shah won the vote with
- 48:53Speaker 3: twenty six thousand votes and beat the D tripleC candidate.
- 48:56Speaker 3: So like total of sixty thousand people voting, Arizona doesn't
- 49:02Speaker 3: have the most robust kind of democratic primary participation.
- 49:06Speaker 4: You could say, yes, all right. And finally, I just
- 49:10Speaker 4: wanted to note since we mentioned those gap numbers, record high.
- 49:13Speaker 3: Two thousand voted in the fourth district.
- 49:15Speaker 4: Jeez, wow, that record high of people identifying as independence.
- 49:20Speaker 4: Just an interesting note on that. If you go back
- 49:22Speaker 4: and you look at Gallops data that starts to spike
- 49:24Speaker 4: at a very particular time, and it's two thousand and eight,
- 49:28Speaker 4: so it tells you about the direction of politics have
- 49:30Speaker 4: gone since