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E7: Okay, but who helped build the world’s bird soundtrack? The inside scoop on Merlin! · Okay, But... Birds

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  So
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  we
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  were
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  the
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  guy
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  who
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  had
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  been
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  a
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  British
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  spy,
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  and
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  of
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  course,
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  bird
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  watching
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  was
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  his
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  cover.
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  So
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  we.
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  Oh,
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  really?
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  Oh,
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  yeah.
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  That's
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  so
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  interesting.
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  A
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  bird
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  watching
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  spy.
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  Well,
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  you
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  know,
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  you
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  go
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  out
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  at
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  night
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  with
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  binoculars,
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  you
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  know,
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  recording
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  equipment.
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  It's
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  official.
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  I've
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  reached
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  the
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  back
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  in
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  my
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  day
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  phase
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  of
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  my
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  life.
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  If
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  I
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  wanted
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  to
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  identify
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  a
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  bird
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  younger
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  by
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  sound,
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  I
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  couldn't
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  pull
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  out
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  my
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  phone.
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  I
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  had
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  to
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  pull
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  out
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  a
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  stack
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  of
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  CDs.
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  I
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  started
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  working
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  as
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  a
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  naturalist
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  right
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  out
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  of
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  high
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  school,
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  first
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  at
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  McGregor
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  Point
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  Provincial
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  park
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  and
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  then
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  at
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  Rondo
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  in
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  southern
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  Ontario,
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  where
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  I
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  grew
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  up.
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  I
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  knew
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  a
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  lot
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  about
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  the
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  natural
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  world.
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  Amphibians
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  were
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  easy
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  spring
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  flowers.
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  Check
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  that
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  tree.
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  Definitely
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  a
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  red
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  maple.
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  But
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  bird
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  sounds
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  always
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  presented
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  a
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  challenge
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  for
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  me.
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  And
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  for
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  a
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  long
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  time
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  they
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  were
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  my
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  kryptonite.
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  And
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  I
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  wanted
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  to
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  be
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  great
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  at
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  that
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  job.
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  But
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  to
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  do
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  that,
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  I
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  had
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  to
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  study
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  hard.
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  If
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  you've
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  ever
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  tried
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  to
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  learn
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  bird
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  sounds,
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  you
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  know
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  the
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  pain.
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  Birds
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  don't
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  just
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  sound
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  different
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  between
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  species,
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  they
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  sound
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  different
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  between
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  individuals.
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  A
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  robin
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  in
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  one
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  forest
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  might
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  have
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  a
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  totally
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  different
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  vibe
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  than
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  a
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  robin
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  down
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  the
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  road.
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  One
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  might
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  be
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  singing,
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  one
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  might
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  only
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  be
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  calling.
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  So
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  my
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  strategy
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  was
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  very
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  old
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  school.
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  Petersen's
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  Field
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  Guide
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  to
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  Birdsong,
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  a
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  literal
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  box
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  set
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  of
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  CDs.
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  I'd
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  sit
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  there
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  for
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  hours
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  playing
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  tracks
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  on
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  repeat
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  and
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  then
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  head
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  into
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  the
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  woods,
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  hoping
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  that
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  the
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  voices
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  on
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  the
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  discs
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  matched
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  the
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  voices
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  in
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  the
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  trees.
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  Slowly,
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  very
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  slowly,
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  things
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  started
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  to
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  click.
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  And
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  now
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  fast
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  forward
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  to
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  today.
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  Okay,
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  but
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  who
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  helped
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  build
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  the
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  world's
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  bird
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  soundtrack?
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  If
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  know
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  what's
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  singing,
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  you
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  open
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  Merlin,
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  you
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  hold
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  up
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  your
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  phone
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  and
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  in
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  seconds
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  it
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  tells
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  you,
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  oh,
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  yeah,
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  that's
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  a
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  western
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  tanager.
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  It
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  honestly
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  feels
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  like
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  magic,
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  but
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  behind
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  that
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  magic
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  is
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  sweat.
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  Microphones
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  travel,
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  mosquito
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  bites,
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  patience
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  notherbus.
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  And
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  one
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  incredibly
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  dedicated
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  pioneer.
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  Because
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  behind
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  the
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  convenience
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  of
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  modern
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  birding,
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  the
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  apps,
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  the
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  archives,
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  the
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  field
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  guides,
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  and
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  that
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  pinch
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  me
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  moment
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  when
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  a
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  bird
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  you've
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  never
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  seen
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  suddenly
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  has
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  a
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  name.
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  There's
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  a
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  deep,
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  global,
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  decades
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  long
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  effort
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  to
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  actually
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  record
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  those
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  voices.
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  And
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  people
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  who
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  helped
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  build
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  that
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  foundation
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  is
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  Linda
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  McCauley.
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  Linda
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  is
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  one
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  of
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  those
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  rare
• 2:31
  figures
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  whose
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  life
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  work
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  is
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  so
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  woven
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  into
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  the
• 2:34
  fabric
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  of
• 2:35
  modern
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  ornithology
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  that
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  you
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  almost
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  can't
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  imagine
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  the
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  field
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  without
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  her.
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  She's
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  recorded
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  birds
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  all
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  over
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  the
• 2:40
  planet,
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  traveling
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  to
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  over
• 2:42
  50
• 2:42
  countries,
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  often
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  in
• 2:43
  places
• 2:43
  where
• 2:44
  no
• 2:44
  high
• 2:44
  quality
• 2:45
  bird
• 2:45
  recordings
• 2:45
  had
• 2:46
  ever
• 2:46
  been
• 2:46
  made.
• 2:47
  She's
• 2:47
  contributed
• 2:48
  over
• 2:48
  6,000
• 2:49
  recordings
• 2:49
  to
• 2:49
  science,
• 2:50
  representing
• 2:50
  more
• 2:51
  than
• 2:51
  2,700
• 2:52
  species
• 2:52
  of
• 2:52
  bird.
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  And
• 2:53
  over
• 2:53
  650
• 2:54
  of
• 2:55
  those
• 2:55
  were
• 2:55
  the
• 2:55
  very
• 2:55
  first
• 2:56
  recordings
• 2:56
  ever
• 2:57
  archived
• 2:57
  for
• 2:57
  that
• 2:57
  species.
• 2:58
  Her
• 2:58
  work
• 2:59
  is
• 2:59
  preserved
• 2:59
  in
• 2:59
  the
• 2:59
  McAuley
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  Library
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  at
• 3:00
  the
• 3:01
  Cornell
• 3:01
  Lab
• 3:01
  of
• 3:01
  Ornithology.
• 3:02
  The
• 3:03
  library
• 3:03
  is
• 3:03
  the
• 3:03
  world's
• 3:04
  largest
• 3:04
  archive
• 3:05
  of
• 3:05
  animal
• 3:05
  media,
• 3:06
  period.
• 3:07
  I
• 3:07
  mean,
• 3:07
  over
• 3:07
  71
• 3:08
  million
• 3:08
  photographs,
• 3:09
  over
• 3:09
  2.6
• 3:10
  million
• 3:10
  audio
• 3:11
  recordings,
• 3:12
  hundreds
• 3:12
  of
• 3:12
  thousands
• 3:13
  of
• 3:13
  videos,
• 3:14
  some
• 3:14
  form
• 3:14
  of
• 3:14
  recording
• 3:15
  from
• 3:15
  about
• 3:15
  96%
• 3:16
  of
• 3:16
  the
• 3:17
  world's
• 3:17
  bird
• 3:17
  species.
• 3:18
  If
• 3:18
  you
• 3:19
  can
• 3:19
  name
• 3:19
  a
• 3:19
  bird,
• 3:19
  there's
• 3:20
  a
• 3:20
  good
• 3:20
  chance
• 3:20
  the
• 3:20
  McAuley
• 3:21
  Library
• 3:21
  has
• 3:21
  its
• 3:21
  voice
• 3:22
  or
• 3:22
  its
• 3:22
  photo,
• 3:23
  maybe
• 3:23
  even
• 3:24
  both,
• 3:24
  maybe
• 3:24
  a
• 3:25
  video
• 3:25
  too.
• 3:25
  And
• 3:26
  Linda
• 3:26
  helped
• 3:27
  make
• 3:27
  that
• 3:27
  possible.
• 3:28
  Her
• 3:28
  recordings
• 3:29
  have
• 3:29
  been
• 3:29
  used
• 3:29
  by
• 3:29
  conservationists,
• 3:31
  museums,
• 3:31
  researchers,
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  and
• 3:32
  even
• 3:32
  to
• 3:32
  help
• 3:33
  identify
• 3:33
  new
• 3:33
  species.
• 3:34
  She's
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  chair
• 3:35
  of
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  administrative
• 3:36
  board
• 3:36
  of
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  Cornell
• 3:37
  Lab
• 3:37
  of
• 3:37
  Ornithology.
• 3:38
  She's
• 3:38
  the
• 3:38
  vice
• 3:38
  chairman
• 3:39
  of
• 3:39
  the
• 3:39
  board
• 3:39
  of
• 3:39
  trustees
• 3:40
  of
• 3:40
  the
• 3:40
  American
• 3:40
  Museum
• 3:41
  of
• 3:41
  Natural
• 3:41
  History.
• 3:42
  And
• 3:43
  she
• 3:43
  holds
• 3:43
  numerous
• 3:43
  other
• 3:44
  roles
• 3:44
  and
• 3:44
  accolades.
• 3:45
  Much
• 3:45
  too
• 3:45
  long
• 3:45
  for
• 3:45
  us
• 3:46
  to
• 3:46
  list
• 3:46
  in
• 3:46
  a
• 3:46
  30
• 3:46
  minute
• 3:47
  episode,
• 3:47
  and
• 3:48
  yet
• 3:48
  she
• 3:48
  still
• 3:49
  carries
• 3:49
  the
• 3:49
  humility
• 3:49
  and
• 3:50
  joy
• 3:50
  of
• 3:50
  someone
• 3:50
  who
• 3:50
  just
• 3:51
  genuinely
• 3:51
  loves
• 3:52
  birds.
• 3:53
  How
• 3:53
  exactly
• 3:54
  did
• 3:54
  Linda
• 3:54
  find
• 3:54
  her
• 3:54
  way
• 3:55
  to
• 3:55
  recording
• 3:55
  birds?
• 3:56
  And
• 3:56
  what
• 3:56
  does
• 3:56
  it
• 3:56
  mean
• 3:57
  to
• 3:57
  build
• 3:57
  a
• 3:57
  permanent
• 3:57
  archive
• 3:58
  of
• 3:58
  the
• 3:58
  natural
• 3:58
  world
• 3:59
  today?
• 3:59
  We'll
• 4:00
  chat
• 4:00
  with
• 4:00
  Linda
• 4:00
  to
• 4:01
  find
• 4:01
  out.
• 4:01
  Stay
• 4:02
  tuned.
• 4:08
  Thanks
• 4:08
  for
• 4:08
  joining
• 4:08
  us,
• 4:09
  Linda.
• 4:09
  Thank
• 4:09
  you
• 4:10
  for
• 4:10
  having
• 4:10
  me.
• 4:10
  Of
• 4:11
  course.
• 4:11
  You
• 4:11
  know,
• 4:11
  I
• 4:12
  think
• 4:12
  when
• 4:12
  people
• 4:12
  think
• 4:12
  about
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  Macaulay
• 4:14
  Library,
• 4:15
  they
• 4:15
  think
• 4:15
  about
• 4:15
  Merlin,
• 4:16
  which
• 4:16
  we
• 4:16
  can
• 4:16
  talk
• 4:16
  about
• 4:17
  at
• 4:17
  some
• 4:17
  point.
• 4:17
  But
• 4:17
  what
• 4:17
  I
• 4:18
  really
• 4:18
  wanted
• 4:18
  to
• 4:18
  start
• 4:18
  with
• 4:19
  was
• 4:19
  just
• 4:19
  learning
• 4:20
  more
• 4:20
  about
• 4:20
  why
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  started
• 4:21
  recording.
• 4:21
  You
• 4:22
  know,
• 4:22
  at
• 4:22
  this
• 4:22
  point
• 4:22
  You've
• 4:23
  contributed
• 4:23
  over
• 4:23
  6,000
• 4:24
  individual
• 4:25
  recordings
• 4:25
  to
• 4:25
  the
• 4:26
  library
• 4:26
  from
• 4:27
  all
• 4:27
  of
• 4:27
  these
• 4:27
  different
• 4:27
  bird
• 4:28
  species.
• 4:28
  And
• 4:29
  it
• 4:29
  would
• 4:29
  be
• 4:29
  really
• 4:29
  great
• 4:29
  to
• 4:30
  hear
• 4:30
  a
• 4:30
  little
• 4:30
  bit
• 4:30
  about
• 4:31
  when
• 4:31
  this
• 4:31
  started
• 4:31
  and
• 4:32
  why
• 4:32
  you're
• 4:32
  so
• 4:32
  interested
• 4:33
  in
• 4:33
  it.
• 4:33
  I
• 4:34
  started
• 4:34
  bird
• 4:34
  watching
• 4:35
  in
• 4:36
  college
• 4:37
  with
• 4:37
  my
• 4:37
  husband
• 4:38
  and
• 4:38
  didn't
• 4:39
  know
• 4:39
  anything
• 4:40
  about
• 4:40
  sound.
• 4:41
  The
• 4:41
  Lab
• 4:41
  of
• 4:42
  Ornithology
• 4:43
  was
• 4:44
  running
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  trip
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  Kenya
• 4:47
  and
• 4:47
  Greg
• 4:48
  Budney,
• 4:48
  who
• 4:48
  was
• 4:48
  the
• 4:49
  curator,
• 4:50
  he
• 4:50
  didn't
• 4:50
  have
• 4:50
  enough
• 4:51
  batteries.
• 4:52
  So
• 4:52
  my
• 4:52
  job
• 4:53
  became
• 4:54
  trading
• 4:54
  things
• 4:55
  to
• 4:55
  get
• 4:56
  him
• 4:56
  enough
• 4:56
  batteries.
• 4:57
  That
• 4:57
  was
• 4:58
  my
• 4:58
  introduction
• 4:59
  to
• 4:59
  sound
• 5:00
  recording.
• 5:01
  So
• 5:01
  then
• 5:01
  he
• 5:01
  said
• 5:02
  I
• 5:02
  had
• 5:02
  to
• 5:02
  go
• 5:02
  to
• 5:03
  Peru
• 5:03
  with
• 5:04
  Ted
• 5:04
  Parker.
• 5:05
  Ted
• 5:05
  Parker
• 5:06
  was
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  legendary
• 5:06
  bird
• 5:07
  sound
• 5:07
  recordist
• 5:07
  and
• 5:08
  Neotropical
• 5:08
  ornithologist
• 5:09
  who
• 5:09
  helped
• 5:09
  build
• 5:10
  Cornell's
• 5:10
  Library
• 5:10
  of
• 5:11
  Natural
• 5:11
  Sounds,
• 5:11
  now
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  Macaulay
• 5:12
  Libra.
• 5:13
  He
• 5:13
  tragically
• 5:14
  passed
• 5:14
  away
• 5:14
  in
• 5:14
  a
• 5:14
  plane
• 5:15
  crash
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  1993.
• 5:17
  And
• 5:17
  we
• 5:17
  took
• 5:17
  Ted's
• 5:18
  tour
• 5:19
  and
• 5:19
  Ted
• 5:19
  informed
• 5:20
  my
• 5:20
  husband
• 5:20
  and
• 5:21
  I
• 5:21
  we
• 5:22
  were
• 5:22
  not
• 5:23
  tour
• 5:23
  material
• 5:25
  and
• 5:25
  that
• 5:25
  I
• 5:25
  should
• 5:26
  go
• 5:26
  Buy
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  tape
• 5:27
  recorder
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  start
• 5:29
  doing
• 5:29
  this
• 5:30
  work.
• 5:31
  And
• 5:31
  so
• 5:32
  I
• 5:32
  did.
• 5:33
  And
• 5:34
  it
• 5:34
  was
• 5:34
  funny
• 5:34
  because
• 5:35
  I
• 5:35
  said,
• 5:35
  well,
• 5:35
  I
• 5:36
  can't
• 5:36
  do
• 5:36
  this.
• 5:36
  I
• 5:37
  don't
• 5:37
  know
• 5:37
  anything
• 5:37
  about
• 5:38
  sound.
• 5:40
  But
• 5:40
  he
• 5:40
  said,
• 5:40
  if
• 5:41
  you
• 5:41
  hear
• 5:41
  the
• 5:42
  birds
• 5:43
  100
• 5:43
  times,
• 5:44
  you'll
• 5:45
  know
• 5:45
  it
• 5:45
  and
• 5:45
  you'll
• 5:45
  remember
• 5:46
  it.
• 5:46
  And
• 5:47
  what's
• 5:47
  funny
• 5:47
  is,
• 5:48
  when
• 5:48
  we're
• 5:48
  training
• 5:49
  Merlin
• 5:49
  for
• 5:50
  sound
• 5:50
  ID,
• 5:51
  we
• 5:51
  need
• 5:51
  between
• 5:52
  100
• 5:53
  and
• 5:53
  150
• 5:54
  recordings.
• 5:55
  So
• 5:55
  it's
• 5:55
  kind
• 5:56
  of
• 5:56
  interesting
• 5:56
  because
• 5:57
  it's
• 5:57
  sort
• 5:57
  of
• 5:57
  the
• 5:58
  same
• 5:58
  number.
• 5:59
  The
• 6:00
  first
• 6:00
  trip
• 6:00
  I
• 6:01
  took
• 6:01
  was
• 6:01
  to
• 6:01
  Senegal,
• 6:03
  and
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  came
• 6:04
  back
• 6:04
  with
• 6:04
  a
• 6:05
  recording
• 6:05
  of
• 6:06
  Egyptian
• 6:07
  plovers
• 6:08
  doing
• 6:08
  this
• 6:08
  mating,
• 6:09
  which
• 6:10
  was
• 6:10
  fabulous.
• 6:11
  And
• 6:11
  they
• 6:11
  were
• 6:12
  really
• 6:12
  excited
• 6:12
  because
• 6:13
  it
• 6:13
  was
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  rare
• 6:14
  bird.
• 6:15
  We
• 6:15
  had
• 6:15
  no
• 6:15
  recordings
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  it.
• 6:17
  And
• 6:18
  that
• 6:18
  was
• 6:18
  sort
• 6:19
  of
• 6:19
  the
• 6:19
  beginning
• 6:20
  of.
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  can
• 6:22
  really
• 6:22
  make
• 6:22
  a
• 6:22
  contribution
• 6:23
  here
• 6:24
  if
• 6:24
  I
• 6:25
  go
• 6:25
  out
• 6:25
  and
• 6:25
  you
• 6:26
  record
• 6:26
  one
• 6:27
  bird
• 6:27
  at
• 6:27
  a
• 6:28
  time
• 6:29
  and
• 6:29
  every
• 6:29
  place
• 6:30
  you
• 6:30
  go,
• 6:31
  because
• 6:31
  you
• 6:32
  need
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  geographic
• 6:33
  variation
• 6:34
  and
• 6:34
  the
• 6:34
  song
• 6:35
  variation.
• 6:36
  Let's
• 6:37
  listen
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  Linda's
• 6:37
  first
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  its
• 6:38
  kind
• 6:38
  recording
• 6:39
  of
• 6:39
  Egyptian
• 6:39
  plovers
• 6:40
  from
• 6:40
  Senegal
• 6:40
  from
• 6:40
  October
• 6:41
  1989.
• 6:43
  Now
• 6:44
  we've
• 6:44
  got
• 6:44
  two
• 6:44
  of
• 6:44
  them
• 6:45
  on
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  mud
• 6:45
  bank,
• 6:46
  one
• 6:46
  of
• 6:46
  which
• 6:47
  is
• 6:47
  making
• 6:47
  this
• 6:48
  single
• 6:48
  beeping
• 6:49
  noise.
• 6:51
  A
• 6:51
  beep.
• 6:52
  That's
• 6:52
  it.
• 6:58
  People
• 6:59
  might
• 6:59
  not
• 6:59
  think
• 6:59
  a
• 6:59
  single
• 7:00
  recording
• 7:00
  is
• 7:00
  really
• 7:01
  valuable,
• 7:02
  but
• 7:02
  you
• 7:03
  need
• 7:03
  that
• 7:03
  variation,
• 7:04
  especially
• 7:05
  as
• 7:05
  you're
• 7:05
  saying,
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  know,
• 7:05
  the
• 7:06
  Macaulay
• 7:06
  Library
• 7:07
  is
• 7:07
  used
• 7:07
  now
• 7:08
  to
• 7:08
  train
• 7:08
  Merlin,
• 7:09
  which
• 7:09
  is
• 7:09
  this
• 7:09
  amazing
• 7:10
  resource
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  has
• 7:11
  millions
• 7:12
  and
• 7:12
  millions
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  users
• 7:13
  at
• 7:13
  this
• 7:13
  point.
• 7:13
  But
• 7:14
  if
• 7:14
  you
• 7:14
  don't
• 7:14
  have
• 7:14
  that
• 7:14
  geographic
• 7:15
  variation,
• 7:16
  Merlin
• 7:16
  wouldn't
• 7:16
  work
• 7:17
  properly
• 7:17
  in
• 7:17
  various
• 7:18
  places.
• 7:18
  And
• 7:19
  similarly,
• 7:19
  you
• 7:19
  can't
• 7:20
  learn
• 7:21
  that
• 7:21
  much
• 7:21
  about
• 7:22
  birds
• 7:22
  and
• 7:22
  their
• 7:22
  variation
• 7:23
  without
• 7:23
  taking
• 7:24
  recordings
• 7:24
  from
• 7:24
  multiple
• 7:25
  places.
• 7:25
  That's
• 7:25
  so
• 7:25
  cool
• 7:26
  about
• 7:26
  the
• 7:26
  plover
• 7:27
  display.
• 7:27
  Do
• 7:27
  you
• 7:27
  remember
• 7:27
  it?
• 7:28
  Can
• 7:28
  you
• 7:28
  describe
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  moment
• 7:29
  when
• 7:29
  you
• 7:29
  were
• 7:30
  recording
• 7:30
  it?
• 7:31
  How
• 7:31
  did
• 7:31
  that
• 7:31
  feel?
• 7:32
  Did
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  know
• 7:32
  in
• 7:32
  the
• 7:32
  moment
• 7:33
  that
• 7:33
  this
• 7:33
  was
• 7:33
  special?
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  didn't
• 7:35
  know
• 7:35
  that
• 7:35
  it
• 7:35
  was
• 7:36
  such
• 7:36
  a
• 7:36
  rare
• 7:37
  bird
• 7:37
  and
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  recording
• 7:38
  was
• 7:38
  special,
• 7:39
  but
• 7:39
  watching
• 7:39
  it
• 7:40
  was
• 7:40
  special
• 7:40
  because
• 7:41
  I
• 7:41
  can
• 7:41
  literally
• 7:42
  remember
• 7:43
  sitting
• 7:44
  and
• 7:44
  there
• 7:44
  was
• 7:44
  a
• 7:44
  stream
• 7:45
  in
• 7:45
  front
• 7:45
  of
• 7:45
  us
• 7:46
  and
• 7:46
  an
• 7:46
  open
• 7:46
  area
• 7:47
  behind,
• 7:48
  and
• 7:48
  they
• 7:49
  were
• 7:49
  doing
• 7:49
  this
• 7:50
  display
• 7:50
  over
• 7:50
  the
• 7:51
  stream.
• 7:51
  It
• 7:52
  was
• 7:52
  really
• 7:52
  cool.
• 7:52
  Oh,
• 7:53
  cool.
• 7:53
  They
• 7:53
  just
• 7:54
  kept
• 7:54
  interacting
• 7:55
  as
• 7:55
  they.
• 7:56
  As
• 7:56
  they
• 7:56
  moved
• 7:57
  through
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  air.
• 7:57
  They
• 7:57
  were
• 7:58
  fairly
• 7:58
  low
• 8:00
  and
• 8:00
  they
• 8:01
  were
• 8:01
  kind
• 8:01
  enough
• 8:02
  to
• 8:02
  land,
• 8:03
  so
• 8:03
  we
• 8:03
  got
• 8:03
  really
• 8:03
  good
• 8:04
  views
• 8:04
  as
• 8:04
  well.
• 8:05
  Perfect.
• 8:07
  That
• 8:07
  was
• 8:07
  kind
• 8:07
  of
• 8:07
  a
• 8:08
  moment
• 8:08
  where
• 8:08
  you
• 8:08
  realized,
• 8:09
  oh,
• 8:09
  individual
• 8:10
  recordings
• 8:10
  matter.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:11
  these
• 8:11
  contributions
• 8:12
  that
• 8:12
  I'm
• 8:12
  making
• 8:12
  can
• 8:12
  matter
• 8:13
  for
• 8:14
  science
• 8:14
  and
• 8:14
  for
• 8:14
  understanding
• 8:15
  of
• 8:15
  birds.
• 8:15
  Is
• 8:16
  that
• 8:16
  one
• 8:16
  of
• 8:16
  your
• 8:17
  favorite
• 8:17
  stories
• 8:17
  from
• 8:18
  the
• 8:18
  field?
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  mean,
• 8:18
  given
• 8:18
  that
• 8:19
  you've
• 8:19
  now
• 8:19
  been
• 8:19
  to
• 8:21
  so
• 8:21
  many
• 8:21
  different
• 8:21
  countries
• 8:22
  recording
• 8:22
  so
• 8:22
  many
• 8:23
  birds,
• 8:23
  like,
• 8:23
  do
• 8:23
  you
• 8:23
  Have
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  standout
• 8:25
  experience
• 8:25
  or
• 8:25
  is
• 8:26
  there
• 8:26
  just.
• 8:26
  Oh,
• 8:26
  I
• 8:26
  have
• 8:26
  a
• 8:26
  favorite.
• 8:27
  A
• 8:27
  laundry
• 8:27
  list.
• 8:29
  In
• 8:29
  Cote
• 8:30
  d',
• 8:30
  Ivoire,
• 8:30
  Ivory
• 8:31
  Coast.
• 8:32
  We
• 8:32
  were
• 8:32
  having
• 8:33
  a
• 8:33
  fantastic
• 8:34
  expedition
• 8:35
  and
• 8:35
  we
• 8:36
  were
• 8:36
  going.
• 8:37
  We
• 8:37
  were
• 8:38
  moving
• 8:38
  west
• 8:38
  and
• 8:39
  we
• 8:39
  went
• 8:39
  to
• 8:40
  this
• 8:40
  mountainous
• 8:41
  area
• 8:41
  and
• 8:42
  our
• 8:42
  stop
• 8:42
  after
• 8:43
  that
• 8:43
  was
• 8:43
  supposed
• 8:44
  to
• 8:44
  be
• 8:44
  Thai
• 8:44
  forest.
• 8:45
  So
• 8:46
  we
• 8:46
  were
• 8:46
  a
• 8:47
  guy
• 8:47
  who
• 8:48
  had
• 8:48
  been
• 8:48
  a
• 8:48
  British
• 8:49
  spy,
• 8:50
  and
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  course,
• 8:51
  bird
• 8:51
  watching
• 8:52
  was
• 8:52
  his
• 8:52
  cover.
• 8:54
  So
• 8:54
  we.
• 8:54
  Oh,
• 8:55
  really?
• 8:55
  Oh,
• 8:55
  yeah.
• 8:57
  That's
• 8:58
  so
• 8:58
  interesting.
• 8:59
  A
• 8:59
  bird
• 8:59
  watching
• 8:59
  spy.
• 9:00
  Well,
• 9:00
  you
• 9:00
  know,
• 9:01
  you
• 9:01
  go
• 9:01
  out
• 9:01
  at
• 9:02
  night
• 9:02
  with
• 9:02
  binoculars,
• 9:04
  you
• 9:04
  know,
• 9:04
  recording
• 9:05
  equipment.
• 9:06
  We
• 9:06
  get
• 9:06
  to
• 9:06
  the
• 9:07
  hotel
• 9:07
  where
• 9:07
  we
• 9:08
  have
• 9:08
  a
• 9:08
  reservation,
• 9:10
  and
• 9:10
  as
• 9:10
  we're
• 9:10
  pulling
• 9:11
  in,
• 9:11
  we're
• 9:12
  seeing
• 9:12
  machine
• 9:12
  guns
• 9:13
  in
• 9:13
  the
• 9:14
  bushes.
• 9:15
  And
• 9:15
  so
• 9:16
  this
• 9:16
  friend
• 9:16
  of
• 9:17
  ours
• 9:17
  said,
• 9:18
  when
• 9:18
  we
• 9:18
  get
• 9:18
  there
• 9:19
  to
• 9:19
  the
• 9:19
  front
• 9:20
  door,
• 9:20
  leave
• 9:21
  everything
• 9:21
  in
• 9:21
  the
• 9:21
  car
• 9:22
  and
• 9:22
  act
• 9:23
  like
• 9:23
  everything
• 9:23
  is
• 9:24
  normal.
• 9:25
  We
• 9:25
  go
• 9:26
  to
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  reception
• 9:27
  desk
• 9:27
  like
• 9:27
  everything's
• 9:28
  normal.
• 9:29
  And
• 9:29
  they
• 9:29
  say,
• 9:29
  well,
• 9:30
  we
• 9:30
  have
• 9:30
  some
• 9:30
  guests
• 9:31
  staying
• 9:31
  here,
• 9:32
  but
• 9:32
  they
• 9:32
  are
• 9:33
  leaving
• 9:34
  this
• 9:34
  afternoon.
• 9:35
  So
• 9:35
  we
• 9:35
  suggest
• 9:36
  you
• 9:36
  go
• 9:36
  through
• 9:36
  and
• 9:37
  have
• 9:37
  lunch.
• 9:37
  And
• 9:38
  they
• 9:38
  go
• 9:38
  out
• 9:38
  bird
• 9:39
  watching
• 9:40
  and
• 9:40
  come
• 9:40
  back
• 9:40
  late.
• 9:41
  Okay.
• 9:42
  So
• 9:42
  we
• 9:43
  walk,
• 9:43
  come
• 9:43
  back
• 9:43
  late.
• 9:44
  Okay,
• 9:44
  come
• 9:44
  back
• 9:45
  late.
• 9:45
  Right.
• 9:46
  So
• 9:46
  we
• 9:46
  go
• 9:46
  into
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  restaurant
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  there
• 9:48
  is
• 9:49
  this
• 9:49
  enormous
• 9:50
  table
• 9:50
  with
• 9:50
  every
• 9:51
  kind
• 9:51
  of
• 9:51
  weapon
• 9:51
  you
• 9:52
  can
• 9:52
  think
• 9:52
  of.
• 9:53
  Charles
• 9:54
  Taylor
• 9:55
  is
• 9:55
  sitting
• 9:56
  there
• 9:56
  in
• 9:56
  a
• 9:57
  three
• 9:57
  piece
• 9:57
  suit.
• 9:58
  Charles
• 9:59
  Taylor
• 9:59
  was
• 9:59
  a
• 9:59
  Liberian
• 10:00
  rebel
• 10:00
  leader
• 10:01
  and
• 10:01
  later
• 10:01
  President
• 10:01
  whose
• 10:02
  1989
• 10:03
  uprising
• 10:03
  helped
• 10:03
  ignite
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  Liberian
• 10:04
  civil
• 10:05
  war.
• 10:05
  His
• 10:06
  women
• 10:06
  are
• 10:06
  bringing
• 10:07
  food
• 10:07
  in
• 10:07
  for
• 10:08
  him.
• 10:09
  And
• 10:09
  we
• 10:09
  sit
• 10:09
  down
• 10:10
  in
• 10:10
  order,
• 10:11
  okay.
• 10:12
  But
• 10:12
  then
• 10:12
  two
• 10:13
  guys
• 10:13
  show
• 10:13
  up
• 10:15
  and
• 10:15
  they
• 10:15
  sit
• 10:16
  down
• 10:16
  at
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  table
• 10:17
  and
• 10:17
  they
• 10:17
  have
• 10:18
  an
• 10:18
  aluminum
• 10:19
  briefcase
• 10:20
  with
• 10:20
  them.
• 10:21
  They
• 10:21
  order
• 10:21
  a
• 10:22
  cup
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  coffee
• 10:23
  and
• 10:24
  they
• 10:24
  leave
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  they
• 10:25
  leave
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  briefcase.
• 10:26
  And
• 10:26
  they
• 10:27
  were
• 10:27
  Americans
• 10:28
  and
• 10:28
  they
• 10:28
  had
• 10:28
  to
• 10:29
  be
• 10:29
  CIA.
• 10:30
  So
• 10:30
  we
• 10:31
  realized
• 10:32
  that
• 10:33
  Charles
• 10:34
  Taylor,
• 10:35
  there
• 10:35
  were
• 10:35
  rumors
• 10:36
  that
• 10:36
  he
• 10:36
  was
• 10:36
  going
• 10:37
  to
• 10:37
  invade
• 10:37
  Liberia
• 10:38
  and
• 10:39
  Cote
• 10:39
  d'
• 10:39
  Ivoire
• 10:40
  was
• 10:40
  supporting
• 10:40
  him.
• 10:41
  So
• 10:41
  we
• 10:41
  figured
• 10:42
  his
• 10:42
  army
• 10:43
  had
• 10:43
  to
• 10:43
  have
• 10:43
  been
• 10:43
  in
• 10:43
  Thai
• 10:44
  Forest,
• 10:44
  which
• 10:45
  was
• 10:45
  our
• 10:45
  next
• 10:46
  stop.
• 10:47
  So
• 10:48
  we
• 10:48
  did
• 10:48
  not
• 10:48
  go
• 10:49
  there.
• 10:49
  He
• 10:50
  did
• 10:50
  two
• 10:50
  weeks
• 10:51
  later
• 10:51
  invade
• 10:52
  and
• 10:52
  take
• 10:52
  over
• 10:53
  Liberia.
• 10:54
  And
• 10:55
  I
• 10:55
  think
• 10:55
  he's
• 10:55
  in
• 10:56
  jail
• 10:56
  now
• 10:56
  having
• 10:57
  been,
• 10:58
  you
• 10:59
  know,
• 11:00
  tried
• 11:01
  in
• 11:01
  a
• 11:01
  court
• 11:01
  at
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  Hague.
• 11:03
  But
• 11:03
  things
• 11:04
  like
• 11:05
  being
• 11:06
  in
• 11:06
  Borneo
• 11:07
  on
• 11:07
  Mount
• 11:07
  Kinabalu
• 11:09
  and,
• 11:09
  you
• 11:09
  know,
• 11:09
  in
• 11:09
  those
• 11:10
  days
• 11:10
  you
• 11:10
  have
• 11:10
  your
• 11:11
  field
• 11:11
  guide
• 11:12
  and
• 11:12
  you've
• 11:13
  studied
• 11:13
  all
• 11:13
  the
• 11:14
  birds.
• 11:15
  And
• 11:15
  one
• 11:15
  of
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  target
• 11:16
  birds
• 11:16
  there
• 11:17
  is
• 11:17
  Whitehead's
• 11:18
  Trogon.
• 11:19
  And
• 11:20
  every
• 11:20
  book
• 11:21
  says
• 11:21
  voice
• 11:22
  unknown.
• 11:23
  So
• 11:24
  we
• 11:24
  were
• 11:25
  climbing
• 11:25
  up
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  mountain
• 11:26
  and
• 11:27
  Dennis
• 11:27
  Young,
• 11:28
  who
• 11:29
  was
• 11:30
  very
• 11:30
  supportive
• 11:32
  of
• 11:32
  trying
• 11:32
  to
• 11:33
  get
• 11:34
  every
• 11:34
  recording
• 11:35
  we
• 11:35
  could,
• 11:37
  he
• 11:37
  said,
• 11:37
  you
• 11:37
  know,
• 11:37
  that
• 11:38
  something's
• 11:38
  calling.
• 11:39
  I
• 11:39
  don't
• 11:39
  know
• 11:39
  what
• 11:40
  that
• 11:40
  is.
• 11:41
  So
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  recorded
• 11:42
  it,
• 11:42
  I
• 11:43
  played
• 11:43
  it
• 11:43
  back.
• 11:44
  A
• 11:44
  Whitehead
• 11:45
  shogun
• 11:45
  came
• 11:46
  Straight
• 11:46
  in
• 11:47
  and
• 11:48
  sat
• 11:48
  there.
• 11:48
  Oh,
• 11:49
  wow.
• 11:49
  And
• 11:49
  did
• 11:50
  not
• 11:51
  sing,
• 11:54
  but
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  knew
• 11:54
  it
• 11:54
  was
• 11:55
  his
• 11:55
  call.
• 11:55
  I
• 11:56
  had
• 11:56
  so
• 11:56
  much
• 11:56
  experience.
• 11:57
  You
• 11:57
  could
• 11:57
  tell
• 11:57
  by
• 11:58
  the
• 11:58
  way
• 11:58
  he
• 11:58
  came
• 11:58
  in.
• 11:59
  It's
• 11:59
  like,
• 11:59
  who's
• 12:00
  in
• 12:00
  my
• 12:00
  territory?
• 12:02
  It
• 12:02
  took
• 12:02
  us
• 12:02
  about
• 12:03
  three
• 12:03
  and
• 12:03
  a
• 12:03
  half
• 12:04
  hours
• 12:05
  traipsing
• 12:06
  off
• 12:06
  the
• 12:06
  trails
• 12:07
  through
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  forest,
• 12:08
  but
• 12:08
  we
• 12:08
  finally
• 12:09
  got
• 12:09
  a
• 12:09
  male
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  sit
• 12:10
  up
• 12:11
  and
• 12:11
  give
• 12:11
  us
• 12:11
  a
• 12:12
  beautiful
• 12:12
  song.
• 12:13
  And
• 12:13
  it
• 12:13
  was
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  first
• 12:14
  in
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  world,
• 12:15
  and
• 12:16
  that
• 12:16
  was
• 12:16
  exciting.
• 12:24
  Vocalizations
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  Whitehead's
• 12:25
  trogon.
• 12:26
  These
• 12:26
  were
• 12:27
  proven
• 12:27
  up.
• 12:28
  This
• 12:29
  bird
• 12:30
  is
• 12:30
  calling
• 12:30
  in
• 12:30
  response
• 12:31
  to
• 12:31
  the
• 12:32
  bird
• 12:32
  that
• 12:32
  we
• 12:33
  taped
• 12:33
  earlier.
• 12:33
  It
• 12:34
  was
• 12:34
  well
• 12:34
  seen
• 12:34
  in
• 12:36
  still
• 12:36
  calling.
• 12:37
  This
• 12:38
  bird
• 12:38
  has
• 12:38
  never
• 12:38
  been
• 12:39
  taped
• 12:39
  before.
• 12:40
  No
• 12:40
  one
• 12:40
  knew
• 12:40
  its
• 12:40
  song.
• 12:42
  So
• 12:42
  these
• 12:42
  are
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  first
• 12:43
  recordings.
• 12:43
  We
• 12:44
  have
• 12:44
  two
• 12:44
  different
• 12:44
  individuals,
• 12:45
  and
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  bird
• 12:46
  was
• 12:46
  definitely
• 12:47
  responsive
• 12:47
  to
• 12:48
  tape,
• 12:49
  as
• 12:49
  you
• 12:49
  can
• 12:50
  hear.
• 12:51
  Good
• 12:51
  one.
• 12:52
  Yeah.
• 12:52
  That's
• 12:52
  amazing.
• 12:53
  To
• 12:53
  be
• 12:53
  the
• 12:53
  first
• 12:53
  in
• 12:53
  the
• 12:54
  world
• 12:54
  to
• 12:54
  capture
• 12:54
  and
• 12:55
  record
• 12:56
  anything
• 12:56
  really
• 12:57
  is
• 12:57
  fascinating.
• 12:58
  But
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  know
• 12:58
  what
• 12:58
  you
• 12:58
  mean
• 12:58
  about,
• 12:59
  like,
• 12:59
  when
• 12:59
  you
• 12:59
  play
• 12:59
  the
• 12:59
  right
• 13:00
  bird
• 13:00
  song,
• 13:00
  if
• 13:01
  you're
• 13:01
  trying
• 13:01
  to,
• 13:01
  you
• 13:01
  know,
• 13:02
  for
• 13:02
  me,
• 13:02
  if
• 13:02
  I'm
• 13:02
  trying
• 13:02
  to
• 13:02
  attract
• 13:03
  a
• 13:03
  bird
• 13:03
  into
• 13:03
  a
• 13:03
  mist
• 13:04
  net,
• 13:04
  you
• 13:04
  know,
• 13:04
  when
• 13:04
  you
• 13:04
  nail
• 13:05
  it
• 13:05
  and
• 13:05
  you
• 13:05
  play
• 13:05
  that
• 13:06
  song
• 13:06
  in
• 13:06
  the
• 13:06
  territory,
• 13:07
  mail
• 13:07
  immediately
• 13:08
  arrives.
• 13:09
  You're
• 13:09
  like,
• 13:09
  yes,
• 13:10
  I
• 13:10
  got
• 13:10
  you.
• 13:11
  Oh,
• 13:11
  what
• 13:11
  an
• 13:11
  amazing
• 13:12
  story.
• 13:12
  The
• 13:12
  Macaulay
• 13:13
  Library
• 13:13
  has
• 13:13
  grown
• 13:14
  to
• 13:14
  basically
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  world's
• 13:15
  largest
• 13:16
  archive
• 13:16
  of
• 13:16
  animal
• 13:17
  media.
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  think
• 13:18
  it's
• 13:18
  over
• 13:18
  70
• 13:19
  million
• 13:19
  photographs,
• 13:20
  over
• 13:20
  two
• 13:20
  and
• 13:20
  a
• 13:21
  half
• 13:21
  million
• 13:21
  audio
• 13:21
  recordings,
• 13:22
  300,000
• 13:23
  videos,
• 13:24
  and
• 13:24
  capturing
• 13:24
  96%
• 13:26
  of
• 13:26
  all
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  world's
• 13:27
  birds,
• 13:27
  as
• 13:27
  far
• 13:27
  as
• 13:27
  we
• 13:28
  know
• 13:28
  how
• 13:28
  many
• 13:28
  birds
• 13:29
  there
• 13:29
  are,
• 13:29
  which
• 13:29
  is
• 13:29
  a
• 13:30
  topic
• 13:30
  of
• 13:30
  another
• 13:30
  episode.
• 13:31
  When
• 13:32
  did
• 13:32
  you
• 13:33
  know
• 13:33
  you
• 13:33
  wanted
• 13:33
  to
• 13:33
  be
• 13:34
  really
• 13:34
  involved
• 13:34
  with
• 13:34
  the
• 13:35
  library?
• 13:35
  Specifically?
• 13:36
  The
• 13:36
  lab
• 13:36
  of
• 13:36
  O
• 13:37
  has
• 13:37
  been
• 13:37
  around
• 13:37
  for
• 13:38
  quite
• 13:38
  a
• 13:38
  while,
• 13:39
  but
• 13:39
  how
• 13:39
  did
• 13:39
  you
• 13:40
  come
• 13:40
  to
• 13:40
  understand
• 13:41
  how
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  wanted
• 13:41
  to
• 13:41
  be
• 13:41
  involved
• 13:42
  with
• 13:42
  that?
• 13:43
  When
• 13:43
  I
• 13:43
  was
• 13:43
  recording,
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  would
• 13:45
  go
• 13:45
  up
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  lab
• 13:46
  three
• 13:46
  or
• 13:46
  four
• 13:47
  times
• 13:47
  a
• 13:47
  year,
• 13:48
  and
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  would
• 13:49
  copy
• 13:49
  all
• 13:50
  of
• 13:50
  my
• 13:50
  material
• 13:51
  into
• 13:51
  the
• 13:52
  library.
• 13:53
  And
• 13:53
  after
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  few
• 13:54
  years,
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  executive
• 13:56
  director
• 13:56
  of
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  lab
• 13:57
  at
• 13:57
  that
• 13:58
  time
• 13:58
  asked
• 13:58
  me
• 13:59
  if
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  would
• 13:59
  be
• 13:59
  on
• 13:59
  the
• 14:00
  board.
• 14:01
  And
• 14:01
  I've
• 14:01
  been
• 14:01
  on
• 14:01
  the
• 14:02
  board
• 14:02
  ever
• 14:02
  since.
• 14:03
  It's
• 14:04
  just
• 14:04
  been
• 14:04
  phenomenal
• 14:06
  to
• 14:06
  live
• 14:06
  through
• 14:07
  and
• 14:07
  see
• 14:07
  the
• 14:08
  transformation
• 14:09
  of
• 14:10
  the
• 14:10
  lab
• 14:11
  across
• 14:12
  all
• 14:12
  areas
• 14:13
  that
• 14:13
  we
• 14:13
  work
• 14:13
  in.
• 14:15
  And
• 14:18
  it's
• 14:18
  been
• 14:18
  a
• 14:19
  great
• 14:19
  investment,
• 14:20
  not
• 14:20
  only
• 14:20
  of
• 14:21
  time
• 14:21
  and
• 14:21
  money,
• 14:22
  but
• 14:22
  to
• 14:23
  be
• 14:23
  part
• 14:23
  of
• 14:23
  this
• 14:24
  story.
• 14:25
  And
• 14:25
  the
• 14:26
  other
• 14:26
  thing
• 14:26
  about
• 14:26
  the
• 14:27
  lab
• 14:27
  is
• 14:27
  it's
• 14:28
  always
• 14:28
  been
• 14:29
  free
• 14:30
  for
• 14:30
  anyone,
• 14:31
  anywhere
• 14:31
  in
• 14:31
  the
• 14:32
  world
• 14:32
  to
• 14:32
  use.
• 14:33
  I
• 14:33
  think
• 14:33
  that's
• 14:33
  the
• 14:33
  amazing
• 14:34
  thing
• 14:34
  about
• 14:34
  Merlin.
• 14:35
  You
• 14:35
  know,
• 14:35
  when
• 14:35
  you
• 14:35
  bring
• 14:35
  it
• 14:36
  up
• 14:36
  and
• 14:36
  you.
• 14:36
  You
• 14:37
  talk
• 14:37
  about
• 14:37
  what
• 14:37
  it
• 14:37
  is,
• 14:38
  people
• 14:39
  wonder,
• 14:39
  oh,
• 14:39
  how
• 14:39
  much
• 14:40
  do
• 14:40
  I
• 14:40
  have
• 14:40
  to
• 14:40
  pay
• 14:40
  for
• 14:40
  that?
• 14:41
  And
• 14:41
  that
• 14:41
  you
• 14:41
  can
• 14:41
  just
• 14:41
  download
• 14:42
  this
• 14:42
  and
• 14:42
  use
• 14:43
  it
• 14:43
  wherever
• 14:43
  you
• 14:43
  are
• 14:44
  and
• 14:44
  learn
• 14:44
  more
• 14:44
  about
• 14:45
  birds
• 14:45
  in
• 14:45
  this
• 14:46
  really
• 14:46
  amazing
• 14:46
  way
• 14:46
  is,
• 14:47
  is
• 14:47
  kind
• 14:47
  of
• 14:47
  mind
• 14:47
  blowing.
• 14:48
  And
• 14:48
  I
• 14:48
  mean,
• 14:48
  your,
• 14:48
  your
• 14:48
  time
• 14:49
  with
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  lab
• 14:49
  has
• 14:49
  been
• 14:50
  longer
• 14:50
  than
• 14:50
  mine
• 14:50
  was.
• 14:50
  You
• 14:51
  know,
• 14:51
  I
• 14:51
  started
• 14:52
  there
• 14:52
  in
• 14:52
  2012
• 14:53
  and
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  was
• 14:54
  there
• 14:54
  for
• 14:54
  four
• 14:54
  years.
• 14:55
  And
• 14:56
  even
• 14:56
  since
• 14:56
  then,
• 14:56
  you
• 14:56
  know,
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  growth
• 14:57
  has
• 14:57
  kind
• 14:57
  of,
• 14:58
  kind
• 14:58
  of
• 14:58
  mind
• 14:59
  boggling.
• 14:59
  Like
• 14:59
  with
• 14:59
  Merlin,
• 15:00
  it
• 15:00
  was
• 15:01
  really
• 15:01
  launched
• 15:01
  in
• 15:01
  2014.
• 15:02
  Right.
• 15:03
  And
• 15:03
  now
• 15:04
  we're
• 15:05
  only,
• 15:05
  you
• 15:05
  know,
• 15:06
  a
• 15:06
  little
• 15:07
  over
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  decade
• 15:07
  past
• 15:08
  that.
• 15:08
  And
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  number
• 15:08
  of
• 15:09
  users
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  the
• 15:09
  breadth
• 15:10
  is
• 15:10
  pretty.
• 15:11
  I
• 15:11
  can
• 15:11
  only
• 15:12
  imagine
• 15:12
  it's
• 15:12
  just
• 15:12
  like
• 15:13
  mind
• 15:13
  boggling
• 15:13
  to
• 15:13
  be
• 15:13
  part
• 15:14
  of
• 15:14
  that
• 15:14
  and
• 15:14
  to
• 15:14
  witness
• 15:15
  it.
• 15:15
  Well,
• 15:15
  you
• 15:16
  know,
• 15:16
  I
• 15:16
  think
• 15:16
  that
• 15:17
  we've
• 15:17
  accomplished
• 15:18
  things
• 15:18
  that
• 15:19
  we
• 15:20
  never
• 15:20
  would
• 15:20
  have
• 15:20
  thought
• 15:21
  would
• 15:21
  be
• 15:21
  possible.
• 15:22
  And
• 15:23
  with
• 15:23
  Merlin,
• 15:24
  we
• 15:24
  made
• 15:24
  a
• 15:25
  critical
• 15:25
  decision
• 15:26
  to
• 15:27
  give
• 15:27
  it
• 15:27
  away
• 15:27
  for
• 15:28
  free.
• 15:29
  And
• 15:30
  what
• 15:30
  we
• 15:30
  get
• 15:31
  is
• 15:31
  your
• 15:31
  email
• 15:32
  address.
• 15:33
  And
• 15:33
  then
• 15:33
  we
• 15:34
  hope
• 15:34
  that
• 15:34
  you'll
• 15:35
  get
• 15:35
  involved
• 15:36
  with
• 15:36
  some
• 15:36
  of
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  other
• 15:36
  things
• 15:37
  that
• 15:37
  we
• 15:37
  do.
• 15:38
  And,
• 15:39
  you
• 15:39
  know,
• 15:39
  it's
• 15:39
  Merlin
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  magician,
• 15:41
  because
• 15:42
  everyone
• 15:42
  can
• 15:42
  remember
• 15:43
  that,
• 15:43
  because
• 15:44
  not
• 15:44
  everybody
• 15:45
  knows
• 15:45
  Merlin
• 15:46
  is
• 15:46
  a
• 15:46
  bird.
• 15:48
  I
• 15:49
  love
• 15:49
  it
• 15:49
  when
• 15:49
  they
• 15:49
  figure
• 15:49
  out
• 15:49
  that
• 15:50
  Merlin
• 15:50
  is
• 15:50
  a
• 15:50
  bird,
• 15:51
  though.
• 15:51
  I
• 15:51
  think
• 15:52
  for
• 15:52
  new
• 15:52
  folks
• 15:53
  to
• 15:53
  birding,
• 15:53
  they're,
• 15:54
  they,
• 15:54
  I
• 15:54
  think
• 15:54
  they,
• 15:55
  they
• 15:55
  understand
• 15:55
  the
• 15:56
  Merlin
• 15:56
  is
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  wizard
• 15:57
  piece.
• 15:57
  And
• 15:57
  then
• 15:57
  they're
• 15:57
  like,
• 15:58
  oh,
• 15:58
  but
• 15:58
  wait,
• 15:58
  it's
• 15:58
  this
• 15:59
  cool
• 15:59
  falcon.
• 16:00
  Yeah.
• 16:01
  So
• 16:02
  we
• 16:02
  started
• 16:03
  small.
• 16:04
  I
• 16:04
  think
• 16:04
  when
• 16:05
  we
• 16:05
  first
• 16:05
  put
• 16:05
  it
• 16:05
  out,
• 16:06
  we
• 16:06
  maybe
• 16:07
  had
• 16:07
  250
• 16:08
  North
• 16:08
  American
• 16:09
  birds
• 16:09
  on
• 16:09
  it.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:11
  we
• 16:11
  had
• 16:12
  our
• 16:12
  five
• 16:12
  questions,
• 16:15
  and
• 16:15
  every
• 16:16
  month
• 16:16
  we
• 16:17
  added
• 16:17
  more
• 16:18
  and
• 16:18
  more
• 16:18
  and
• 16:19
  more.
• 16:20
  So
• 16:20
  now
• 16:20
  we
• 16:20
  cover
• 16:20
  the
• 16:21
  whole
• 16:21
  world.
• 16:22
  And
• 16:22
  with
• 16:22
  sound,
• 16:23
  we're
• 16:23
  doing
• 16:23
  the
• 16:23
  same
• 16:24
  thing.
• 16:24
  We
• 16:25
  started
• 16:25
  with
• 16:25
  some
• 16:26
  in
• 16:26
  the
• 16:26
  U.S.
• 16:27
  now
• 16:27
  we
• 16:27
  have
• 16:27
  most
• 16:28
  of
• 16:28
  the
• 16:28
  U.S.
• 16:29
  we
• 16:29
  have
• 16:30
  fair
• 16:30
  amount
• 16:30
  in
• 16:32
  Europe.
• 16:33
  We're
• 16:33
  running
• 16:33
  sound
• 16:34
  recording
• 16:34
  workshops
• 16:35
  in
• 16:35
  other
• 16:36
  countries
• 16:36
  because
• 16:37
  people
• 16:37
  really
• 16:38
  want
• 16:38
  the
• 16:39
  feature
• 16:40
  and
• 16:40
  people
• 16:40
  on
• 16:41
  the
• 16:41
  ground
• 16:41
  in
• 16:41
  those
• 16:42
  countries,
• 16:42
  our
• 16:43
  partners
• 16:44
  are
• 16:44
  really
• 16:44
  going
• 16:44
  to
• 16:45
  go
• 16:45
  out
• 16:45
  and
• 16:45
  get
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  material
• 16:46
  that
• 16:47
  we
• 16:47
  need.
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  don't
• 16:48
  know.
• 16:48
  Amy
• 16:48
  Poehler
• 16:49
  has
• 16:49
  one
• 16:49
  of
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  most
• 16:50
  popular
• 16:50
  podcasts
• 16:51
  right
• 16:51
  now,
• 16:51
  an
• 16:51
  SNL
• 16:52
  comedian,
• 16:53
  and
• 16:54
  she
• 16:54
  was
• 16:54
  interviewing
• 16:55
  Ariana
• 16:55
  Grande,
• 16:56
  who
• 16:56
  uses
• 16:57
  Merlin,
• 16:58
  and
• 16:58
  was
• 16:58
  talking
• 16:58
  about
• 16:59
  how
• 16:59
  amazing
• 17:00
  Merlin
• 17:00
  is.
• 17:00
  Yeah.
• 17:01
  So
• 17:01
  to
• 17:01
  see,
• 17:01
  like,
• 17:02
  it's
• 17:02
  gone
• 17:02
  all
• 17:02
  the
• 17:03
  way,
• 17:03
  you
• 17:03
  know,
• 17:03
  all
• 17:04
  over
• 17:04
  the
• 17:04
  world
• 17:04
  and
• 17:04
  is
• 17:04
  being
• 17:05
  used
• 17:05
  by
• 17:05
  people
• 17:05
  you
• 17:05
  wouldn't
• 17:06
  expect,
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  think
• 17:06
  is
• 17:06
  just
• 17:06
  really
• 17:07
  fascinating.
• 17:07
  But
• 17:08
  it's
• 17:08
  funny,
• 17:08
  too.
• 17:08
  There's
• 17:09
  all
• 17:09
  these,
• 17:09
  these
• 17:10
  TikTok
• 17:10
  or
• 17:10
  Instagram
• 17:11
  reels
• 17:12
  about
• 17:12
  like,
• 17:13
  oh,
• 17:13
  I'm
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  millennial.
• 17:13
  And
• 17:14
  all
• 17:14
  of
• 17:14
  a
• 17:14
  sudden
• 17:14
  I
• 17:14
  know
• 17:14
  that's
• 17:15
  a
• 17:15
  yellow
• 17:15
  rumped
• 17:15
  warbler.
• 17:16
  You
• 17:16
  know,
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  think
• 17:17
  there's
• 17:17
  this,
• 17:18
  this
• 17:18
  group
• 17:18
  of
• 17:18
  people
• 17:19
  kind
• 17:19
  of
• 17:19
  really
• 17:19
  cluing
• 17:20
  in
• 17:20
  on
• 17:21
  birds.
• 17:21
  Anyways,
• 17:22
  what
• 17:22
  are
• 17:22
  you
• 17:22
  most
• 17:23
  excited
• 17:23
  about
• 17:23
  in
• 17:23
  terms
• 17:23
  of
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  new
• 17:24
  features
• 17:25
  and
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  new
• 17:25
  ways
• 17:26
  that
• 17:26
  Merlin
• 17:26
  might
• 17:26
  grow?
• 17:27
  What
• 17:27
  do
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  think
• 17:28
  is
• 17:28
  most
• 17:28
  exciting?
• 17:29
  Well,
• 17:29
  I
• 17:29
  think
• 17:30
  that
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  more
• 17:31
  sort
• 17:31
  of
• 17:32
  social
• 17:33
  connections
• 17:34
  that
• 17:34
  we
• 17:34
  can
• 17:34
  make
• 17:35
  where
• 17:35
  you
• 17:36
  could
• 17:36
  have
• 17:36
  your
• 17:36
  own
• 17:37
  group
• 17:37
  of
• 17:37
  friends
• 17:38
  and
• 17:38
  share
• 17:39
  your
• 17:39
  Merlin
• 17:40
  sightings,
• 17:42
  you
• 17:42
  could.
• 17:44
  Well,
• 17:44
  there'll
• 17:44
  be
• 17:45
  more
• 17:45
  on
• 17:45
  the
• 17:45
  app,
• 17:45
  just
• 17:46
  that
• 17:46
  you
• 17:46
  can
• 17:46
  learn
• 17:46
  about
• 17:47
  any
• 17:47
  bird
• 17:47
  that
• 17:47
  comes
• 17:48
  up.
• 17:48
  They'll
• 17:49
  keep
• 17:49
  adding
• 17:50
  things
• 17:50
  that
• 17:50
  will
• 17:51
  connect
• 17:52
  people
• 17:52
  together,
• 17:54
  not
• 17:54
  just
• 17:55
  you
• 17:55
  learning
• 17:55
  about
• 17:56
  that
• 17:56
  bird.
• 17:57
  You
• 17:57
  know,
• 17:57
  you've
• 17:58
  recorded
• 17:58
  the
• 17:58
  same
• 17:59
  bird
• 17:59
  in
• 17:59
  different
• 17:59
  places
• 18:00
  across
• 18:00
  a
• 18:00
  country
• 18:01
  or
• 18:01
  across
• 18:01
  a
• 18:01
  region.
• 18:02
  How
• 18:02
  has
• 18:03
  that
• 18:03
  like,
• 18:03
  informed
• 18:03
  how
• 18:03
  you
• 18:04
  think
• 18:04
  about
• 18:04
  evolution
• 18:05
  or
• 18:06
  population
• 18:06
  variation
• 18:07
  or
• 18:07
  any
• 18:07
  of
• 18:08
  that?
• 18:08
  So
• 18:09
  an
• 18:09
  example
• 18:10
  is
• 18:10
  Mike
• 18:10
  Webster
• 18:11
  at
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  lab,
• 18:12
  works
• 18:12
  on
• 18:12
  redback
• 18:13
  fairy
• 18:13
  wrens
• 18:15
  and
• 18:15
  Australia.
• 18:16
  And
• 18:17
  when
• 18:17
  you
• 18:17
  look
• 18:18
  at
• 18:18
  the
• 18:18
  geographic
• 18:19
  variation,
• 18:20
  the
• 18:20
  northern
• 18:21
  population,
• 18:22
  the
• 18:23
  males
• 18:23
  have
• 18:23
  bright
• 18:24
  red
• 18:25
  backs.
• 18:25
  It's
• 18:25
  a
• 18:26
  black
• 18:26
  bird
• 18:26
  with
• 18:26
  a
• 18:27
  fabulous
• 18:28
  red
• 18:28
  back
• 18:29
  and
• 18:29
  it
• 18:29
  has
• 18:30
  a
• 18:30
  dialect,
• 18:31
  a
• 18:31
  song.
• 18:32
  On
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  east
• 18:33
  coast,
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  males
• 18:35
  have
• 18:35
  orange
• 18:36
  backs
• 18:37
  and
• 18:37
  their
• 18:37
  song
• 18:38
  is
• 18:38
  different.
• 18:39
  And
• 18:39
  then
• 18:40
  there's
• 18:40
  a
• 18:40
  hybrid
• 18:41
  zone.
• 18:42
  And
• 18:42
  so
• 18:42
  he's
• 18:43
  been
• 18:43
  doing
• 18:43
  these
• 18:43
  experiments
• 18:44
  and
• 18:44
  what
• 18:44
  he's
• 18:45
  found
• 18:46
  is
• 18:47
  the
• 18:49
  sound
• 18:50
  is
• 18:50
  more
• 18:51
  important.
• 18:52
  They
• 18:53
  really
• 18:53
  like
• 18:53
  the
• 18:54
  red
• 18:54
  back,
• 18:55
  but
• 18:55
  sound
• 18:55
  is
• 18:56
  what
• 18:56
  they
• 18:56
  use
• 18:57
  to
• 18:57
  decide
• 18:57
  who
• 18:57
  they're
• 18:58
  going
• 18:58
  to
• 18:58
  mate
• 18:58
  with.
• 18:59
  Here's
• 18:59
  a
• 18:59
  recording
• 18:59
  of
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  eastern
• 19:00
  subspecies,
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  one
• 19:01
  with
• 19:01
  an
• 19:01
  orange
• 19:02
  back.
• 19:02
  Their
• 19:03
  song
• 19:03
  almost
• 19:03
  always
• 19:04
  has
• 19:04
  a
• 19:04
  few
• 19:04
  intro
• 19:04
  notes
• 19:05
  at
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  beginning
• 19:05
  compared
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  the
• 19:06
  western
• 19:06
  subspecies
• 19:07
  which
• 19:07
  has
• 19:07
  a
• 19:07
  red
• 19:07
  back.
• 19:08
  Listen
• 19:08
  for
• 19:08
  the
• 19:09
  dat,
• 19:09
  dat,
• 19:09
  dat
• 19:09
  at
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  beginning
• 19:10
  of
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  song.
• 19:16
  There
• 19:17
  are
• 19:17
  other
• 19:17
  ways
• 19:18
  that
• 19:20
  our
• 19:20
  archive
• 19:21
  can
• 19:21
  be
• 19:21
  used
• 19:22
  and
• 19:22
  not
• 19:22
  just
• 19:23
  sound.
• 19:24
  So
• 19:24
  for
• 19:24
  example,
• 19:25
  we
• 19:26
  had
• 19:26
  a
• 19:26
  student
• 19:27
  that
• 19:27
  was
• 19:27
  studying
• 19:28
  how
• 19:28
  a
• 19:29
  hummingbird
• 19:30
  molts
• 19:31
  and
• 19:31
  we
• 19:31
  have
• 19:32
  so
• 19:32
  many
• 19:32
  photos
• 19:33
  of
• 19:33
  that
• 19:33
  species
• 19:34
  that
• 19:34
  he
• 19:34
  picked
• 19:35
  up,
• 19:35
  he
• 19:36
  could
• 19:36
  show
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  whole
• 19:36
  molt
• 19:37
  literally
• 19:38
  feather
• 19:38
  by
• 19:39
  feather.
• 19:39
  That's
• 19:39
  incredible.
• 19:44
  You
• 19:44
  know,
• 19:44
  there
• 19:44
  are
• 19:44
  some
• 19:45
  birds
• 19:45
  that
• 19:45
  we've
• 19:45
  talked
• 19:46
  kind
• 19:46
  of
• 19:46
  about
• 19:46
  dialects
• 19:47
  or
• 19:47
  at
• 19:47
  least
• 19:47
  that
• 19:47
  there's
• 19:47
  this
• 19:48
  geographic
• 19:48
  variation.
• 19:49
  Have
• 19:50
  you
• 19:50
  recorded
• 19:50
  any
• 19:51
  birds
• 19:51
  that
• 19:51
  mimic
• 19:52
  other
• 19:52
  birds
• 19:52
  that
• 19:52
  were
• 19:53
  particularly
• 19:53
  exciting
• 19:53
  for
• 19:54
  you
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  record?
• 19:55
  Okay.
• 19:55
  It's
• 19:56
  really
• 19:56
  hard
• 19:57
  to
• 19:57
  be
• 19:57
  the
• 19:58
  superb
• 19:59
  wirebird
• 20:00
  in
• 20:01
  Australia.
• 20:02
  Nothing
• 20:03
  is
• 20:03
  a
• 20:03
  better
• 20:04
  mimic.
• 20:04
  Okay.
• 20:06
  I've
• 20:07
  had
• 20:07
  males
• 20:07
  sit
• 20:07
  right
• 20:08
  in
• 20:08
  front
• 20:08
  of
• 20:08
  me
• 20:09
  and
• 20:09
  just
• 20:09
  go
• 20:10
  through
• 20:11
  20,
• 20:11
  30
• 20:12
  different
• 20:12
  other
• 20:13
  species
• 20:14
  calls.
• 20:16
  And
• 20:16
  of
• 20:16
  course,
• 20:16
  really
• 20:17
  they're
• 20:17
  famous
• 20:18
  for
• 20:18
  doing
• 20:18
  things
• 20:19
  like
• 20:21
  a
• 20:22
  chainsaw,
• 20:23
  our
• 20:23
  car
• 20:24
  backfiring,
• 20:26
  our
• 20:26
  baby
• 20:27
  crying,
• 20:28
  which
• 20:28
  is
• 20:28
  pretty
• 20:29
  amazing.
• 20:30
  Did
• 20:30
  you
• 20:30
  get
• 20:30
  to
• 20:30
  witness
• 20:31
  any
• 20:31
  of
• 20:31
  those
• 20:31
  kind
• 20:31
  of
• 20:32
  non
• 20:32
  bird
• 20:32
  mimic
• 20:33
  calls
• 20:33
  when
• 20:33
  you
• 20:33
  were
• 20:34
  recording
• 20:34
  lyrebirds?
• 20:35
  No,
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  have
• 20:37
  a
• 20:37
  nice
• 20:37
  clean
• 20:37
  all
• 20:38
  bird
• 20:38
  one.
• 20:39
  A
• 20:39
  few
• 20:39
  of
• 20:40
  them
• 20:40
  actually.
• 21:03
  It's
• 21:03
  vocalizations
• 21:04
  of
• 21:04
  superb
• 21:04
  lyrebird
• 21:05
  who
• 21:05
  is
• 21:05
  still
• 21:05
  calling.
• 21:06
  Shrike
• 21:07
  thrush,
• 21:08
  Golden
• 21:09
  Whistler,
• 21:10
  Kookaburra,
• 21:13
  White-Browed
• 21:13
  Scrubwren,
• 21:15
  Gray
• 21:15
  Butcherbird,
• 21:18
  Crimson
• 21:19
  Rosella.
• 21:21
  There's
• 21:22
  probably
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  couple
• 21:22
  in
• 21:22
  there
• 21:23
  that
• 21:23
  I
• 21:23
  didn't
• 21:23
  quite
• 21:23
  pick
• 21:23
  up
• 21:24
  on
• 21:24
  too.
• 21:25
  Wow,
• 21:25
  that's
• 21:26
  good.
• 21:26
  That's
• 21:26
  enough,
• 21:26
  thank
• 21:27
  you.
• 21:29
  Still
• 21:30
  singing.
• 21:31
  The
• 21:31
  bird
• 21:31
  moves
• 21:32
  its
• 21:32
  neck
• 21:32
  and
• 21:33
  it
• 21:33
  positions
• 21:33
  its
• 21:34
  mouth
• 21:35
  differently
• 21:35
  for
• 21:35
  each
• 21:35
  of
• 21:36
  these
• 21:36
  different
• 21:36
  calls.
• 21:37
  Tends
• 21:37
  to
• 21:37
  open
• 21:38
  its
• 21:38
  mouth
• 21:39
  very
• 21:39
  widely
• 21:40
  to
• 21:41
  do
• 21:41
  some
• 21:41
  of
• 21:41
  these
• 21:41
  calls.
• 21:44
  And
• 21:45
  just
• 21:45
  an
• 21:45
  absolutely
• 21:46
  fantastic
• 21:47
  bird.
• 21:48
  Perfect.
• 21:48
  There
• 21:49
  you
• 21:49
  go.
• 21:49
  You
• 21:49
  know,
• 21:49
  you
• 21:50
  weren't
• 21:50
  near
• 21:50
  any
• 21:50
  kind
• 21:50
  of
• 21:51
  construction
• 21:51
  zone
• 21:51
  or
• 21:52
  deforestation,
• 21:52
  which
• 21:53
  is
• 21:53
  probably
• 21:53
  a
• 21:53
  nicer
• 21:54
  place
• 21:54
  to
• 21:54
  be
• 21:54
  recording.
• 21:55
  No,
• 21:55
  but
• 21:55
  you
• 21:56
  know
• 21:56
  what,
• 21:56
  they're
• 21:56
  hard
• 21:57
  to
• 21:57
  see
• 21:57
  in
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  forest
• 21:58
  and
• 21:59
  we
• 21:59
  were
• 21:59
  in
• 21:59
  a
• 22:00
  park
• 22:01
  and
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  had
• 22:02
  one
• 22:02
  right
• 22:02
  on
• 22:02
  the
• 22:03
  side
• 22:03
  of
• 22:03
  a
• 22:03
  path
• 22:04
  where
• 22:05
  all
• 22:05
  these
• 22:05
  people
• 22:06
  were
• 22:06
  walking
• 22:06
  by
• 22:07
  and
• 22:07
  he's
• 22:08
  displaying
• 22:08
  and
• 22:09
  calling
• 22:09
  and
• 22:10
  ignoring
• 22:11
  everyone.
• 22:12
  So
• 22:12
  of
• 22:13
  all
• 22:13
  the
• 22:13
  species
• 22:13
  that
• 22:13
  you've
• 22:14
  recorded,
• 22:14
  which
• 22:15
  one
• 22:15
  has
• 22:15
  made
• 22:16
  you
• 22:16
  wait
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  longest
• 22:17
  for
• 22:17
  a
• 22:17
  single
• 22:17
  recording?
• 22:19
  Some
• 22:19
  of
• 22:19
  them
• 22:20
  really
• 22:20
  make
• 22:21
  you
• 22:21
  wait
• 22:21
  a
• 22:21
  long
• 22:22
  time.
• 22:23
  Some
• 22:23
  of
• 22:23
  them
• 22:23
  you
• 22:23
  give
• 22:24
  up
• 22:25
  and
• 22:25
  some
• 22:26
  of
• 22:26
  them
• 22:26
  you
• 22:26
  get
• 22:26
  really
• 22:27
  lucky.
• 22:28
  Sometimes
• 22:29
  you
• 22:29
  get
• 22:29
  a
• 22:29
  recording
• 22:30
  that's
• 22:30
  not
• 22:30
  great
• 22:31
  so
• 22:31
  you
• 22:31
  hope
• 22:31
  the
• 22:32
  next
• 22:32
  one
• 22:32
  will
• 22:33
  be
• 22:33
  better
• 22:34
  and
• 22:34
  so
• 22:34
  you
• 22:35
  just
• 22:35
  keep
• 22:35
  trying
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  upgrade.
• 22:37
  But
• 22:38
  I
• 22:39
  can't
• 22:39
  think
• 22:39
  of
• 22:40
  like
• 22:40
  just
• 22:40
  one
• 22:40
  example.
• 22:42
  When
• 22:42
  you
• 22:42
  go
• 22:42
  out
• 22:43
  and
• 22:43
  record,
• 22:43
  what's
• 22:43
  the
• 22:44
  strangest
• 22:44
  thing
• 22:44
  you've
• 22:44
  had
• 22:45
  to
• 22:45
  do
• 22:45
  to
• 22:45
  get
• 22:45
  a
• 22:45
  clean
• 22:46
  field
• 22:46
  recording?
• 22:47
  Did
• 22:47
  you
• 22:47
  have
• 22:47
  to
• 22:47
  hide
• 22:47
  in
• 22:48
  a
• 22:48
  weird
• 22:48
  place
• 22:48
  or
• 22:49
  were
• 22:49
  you
• 22:49
  getting
• 22:50
  bit
• 22:50
  by
• 22:51
  a
• 22:51
  lot
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  insects
• 22:52
  or
• 22:52
  are
• 22:52
  there
• 22:52
  any
• 22:52
  memorable
• 22:53
  experiences
• 22:53
  there?
• 22:54
  Chiggers
• 22:55
  are
• 22:55
  not
• 22:55
  good.
• 22:58
  Leeches
• 22:59
  in
• 22:59
  Asia
• 23:00
  are
• 23:00
  really
• 23:00
  unfortunate.
• 23:02
  Oh,
• 23:03
  yes.
• 23:03
  I
• 23:03
  have
• 23:04
  climbed
• 23:04
  a
• 23:04
  rock
• 23:05
  face
• 23:05
  to
• 23:05
  sit
• 23:06
  and
• 23:06
  record
• 23:06
  cormorants
• 23:07
  in
• 23:08
  the
• 23:08
  Galapagos.
• 23:09
  That
• 23:09
  was
• 23:09
  challenging.
• 23:12
  Oh,
• 23:12
  that's
• 23:12
  awesome.
• 23:13
  I've
• 23:13
  laid
• 23:14
  flat
• 23:14
  in
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  mud.
• 23:15
  Yeah,
• 23:15
  you
• 23:15
  just
• 23:16
  have
• 23:16
  to
• 23:17
  do
• 23:17
  what
• 23:18
  your
• 23:18
  opportunity
• 23:19
  is
• 23:20
  when
• 23:20
  you're
• 23:21
  in
• 23:21
  the
• 23:21
  field.
• 23:22
  Yeah.
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  had
• 23:22
  many,
• 23:22
  many
• 23:23
  blue
• 23:23
  footed
• 23:23
  boobies
• 23:24
  kind
• 23:24
  of
• 23:24
  vomit
• 23:25
  almost
• 23:25
  directly
• 23:25
  into
• 23:25
  my
• 23:26
  mouth
• 23:26
  when
• 23:26
  I
• 23:26
  was
• 23:26
  doing
• 23:26
  fieldwork
• 23:27
  because
• 23:28
  I
• 23:28
  needed
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  samples.
• 23:29
  And
• 23:30
  it
• 23:30
  can
• 23:30
  get
• 23:30
  kind
• 23:31
  of
• 23:31
  gross
• 23:31
  for
• 23:31
  people
• 23:32
  listening
• 23:32
  too.
• 23:32
  I
• 23:32
  don't
• 23:33
  know
• 23:33
  if
• 23:33
  everyone
• 23:33
  knows
• 23:34
  that
• 23:34
  in.
• 23:34
  Why
• 23:35
  are
• 23:35
  the
• 23:35
  leeches
• 23:35
  so
• 23:35
  bad?
• 23:36
  Tell
• 23:36
  us
• 23:36
  a
• 23:36
  little
• 23:36
  bit
• 23:36
  about
• 23:37
  that.
• 23:37
  They're
• 23:37
  different
• 23:37
  than
• 23:37
  our
• 23:38
  North
• 23:38
  American
• 23:38
  leeches,
• 23:39
  right?
• 23:39
  Oh,
• 23:39
  yeah.
• 23:40
  No,
• 23:41
  it
• 23:41
  doesn't
• 23:42
  matter
• 23:42
  what
• 23:42
  you
• 23:42
  do.
• 23:43
  I
• 23:43
  think
• 23:44
  they
• 23:44
  just
• 23:44
  fall
• 23:44
  out
• 23:44
  of
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  sky
• 23:46
  and
• 23:46
  you
• 23:47
  don't
• 23:47
  feel
• 23:47
  them
• 23:48
  attach
• 23:49
  themselves
• 23:49
  to
• 23:49
  you.
• 23:50
  You
• 23:50
  just
• 23:50
  see
• 23:50
  the
• 23:50
  blood,
• 23:51
  you
• 23:52
  know,
• 23:52
  coming
• 23:53
  down
• 23:53
  your
• 23:53
  arm,
• 23:55
  you
• 23:56
  always
• 23:56
  carry
• 23:57
  a
• 23:57
  small
• 23:57
  jackknife,
• 23:58
  so
• 23:59
  you
• 23:59
  can
• 23:59
  just
• 23:59
  scrape
• 24:00
  them
• 24:00
  off.
• 24:01
  We
• 24:02
  have
• 24:02
  a
• 24:02
  segment
• 24:02
  on
• 24:02
  our
• 24:02
  show
• 24:03
  called
• 24:03
  that's
• 24:03
  BS
• 24:04
  or
• 24:04
  that's
• 24:04
  Bird
• 24:04
  Stuff
• 24:05
  where
• 24:05
  we
• 24:05
  give
• 24:05
  our
• 24:05
  guests
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  chance
• 24:06
  to
• 24:06
  debunk
• 24:07
  a
• 24:07
  myth
• 24:07
  that
• 24:07
  ruffles
• 24:08
  their
• 24:08
  feathers.
• 24:09
  So,
• 24:09
  Linda,
• 24:09
  what
• 24:09
  do
• 24:10
  you
• 24:10
  want
• 24:10
  to.
• 24:10
  Call
• 24:10
  BS
• 24:11
  on
• 24:12
  Everybody
• 24:13
  talks
• 24:13
  about
• 24:14
  seagulls
• 24:16
  and.
• 24:17
  Okay,
• 24:19
  there
• 24:19
  is
• 24:19
  not
• 24:20
  one
• 24:20
  gull
• 24:21
  that
• 24:22
  has
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  name
• 24:23
  seagull.
• 24:24
  You
• 24:24
  see
• 24:24
  them
• 24:24
  on
• 24:24
  the
• 24:25
  shore,
• 24:25
  but
• 24:25
  they're
• 24:26
  not
• 24:26
  seagulls.
• 24:27
  That's
• 24:27
  an
• 24:28
  Excellent.
• 24:28
  That's
• 24:28
  B.S.
• 24:31
  i
• 24:31
  appreciate
• 24:32
  that
• 24:32
  so
• 24:32
  much.
• 24:33
  This
• 24:33
  has
• 24:34
  been
• 24:34
  really
• 24:34
  great.
• 24:34
  I've
• 24:34
  really
• 24:35
  enjoyed
• 24:35
  getting
• 24:35
  to
• 24:36
  chat
• 24:36
  with
• 24:36
  you.
• 24:36
  Thanks
• 24:37
  for
• 24:37
  taking
• 24:37
  the
• 24:37
  time.
• 24:38
  Well,
• 24:38
  thank
• 24:39
  you
• 24:39
  so
• 24:39
  much
• 24:39
  for
• 24:39
  having
• 24:40
  me.
• 24:40
  I
• 24:40
  love
• 24:41
  talking
• 24:41
  about
• 24:41
  birds,
• 24:42
  and
• 24:43
  I
• 24:43
  can't
• 24:43
  wait
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  watch
• 24:44
  your
• 24:44
  podcast.
• 24:48
  Okay,
• 24:49
  so
• 24:49
  birds
• 24:49
  are
• 24:50
  dinosaurs,
• 24:50
  and
• 24:50
  around
• 24:50
  here
• 24:51
  we
• 24:51
  like
• 24:51
  our
• 24:51
  snacks.
• 24:52
  So
• 24:52
  we
• 24:52
  end
• 24:52
  each
• 24:52
  episode
• 24:53
  with
• 24:53
  a
• 24:53
  dinosaur
• 24:53
  nugget.
• 24:54
  Today's
• 24:54
  dinosaur
• 24:55
  nugget
• 24:55
  is
• 24:55
  that
• 24:55
  behind
• 24:56
  the
• 24:56
  slick
• 24:56
  app
• 24:56
  on
• 24:56
  your
• 24:57
  phone
• 24:57
  that
• 24:57
  identifies
• 24:57
  what
• 24:58
  birds
• 24:58
  are
• 24:58
  singing
• 24:58
  or
• 24:59
  calling.
• 24:59
  Around
• 24:59
  you
• 24:59
  are
• 25:00
  hundreds
• 25:00
  to
• 25:00
  thousands
• 25:01
  of
• 25:01
  recordings
• 25:01
  that
• 25:01
  are
• 25:02
  training
• 25:02
  the
• 25:02
  algorithm.
• 25:03
  And
• 25:03
  behind
• 25:03
  each
• 25:04
  of
• 25:04
  those
• 25:04
  recordings
• 25:04
  is
• 25:04
  a
• 25:05
  person,
• 25:05
  maybe
• 25:06
  covered
• 25:06
  in
• 25:06
  mud
• 25:06
  or
• 25:07
  in
• 25:07
  leeches
• 25:07
  or
• 25:08
  both,
• 25:08
  collecting
• 25:09
  and
• 25:09
  archiving
• 25:09
  the
• 25:10
  sounds
• 25:10
  of
• 25:10
  the
• 25:10
  natural
• 25:10
  world,
• 25:11
  along
• 25:11
  with
• 25:11
  some
• 25:11
  pretty
• 25:12
  wild
• 25:12
  stories.
• 25:13
  That's
• 25:14
  a
• 25:14
  wrap
• 25:14
  on
• 25:14
  this
• 25:14
  week's
• 25:15
  episode.
• 25:15
  Okay,
• 25:15
  but
• 25:16
  who
• 25:16
  helped
• 25:16
  build
• 25:16
  the
• 25:16
  world's
• 25:17
  bird
• 25:17
  soundtrack?
• 25:18
  If
• 25:18
  you
• 25:18
  liked
• 25:19
  this
• 25:19
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• 25:19
  leave
• 25:20
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• 25:20
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• 25:20
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• 25:20
  and
• 25:21
  subscribe.
• 25:21
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• 25:22
  catch
• 25:22
  you
• 25:22
  next
• 25:22
  time.
• 25:23
  Byeee.
• 25:27
  Okay,
• 25:27
  But...
• 25:28
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• 25:29
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• 25:29
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• 25:30
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