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Episode 6: Carson Bolden · Pushin' the Cushion

• Slim Pushins: What's up everybody? Welcome to, what is this, episode seven of pushing the cushion. We've gone a couple of weeks without a guest. People don't want to be on the show. found, luckily we found a Shmo. As always, my cohost, guy that spends more time in the shower than anybody else, Corby Sherb. Jim Gardner: You Corby Scherb: Hey everyone, how are y'all? Slim Pushins: and the guy on the dials, the guy with the brains behind the worst podcast on the planet, Hollywood Jim Gardner. Carson bolden: and Jim Gardner: podcast nobody asked for. Corby Scherb: But our guest this week, super cool, it's a really hot young kid that honestly staked his name real soon. He was super respectful always. ⁓ The B2 Carson Bolden. Slim Pushins: 100%. Carson bolden: So I appreciate it. Yeah, no problem. Appreciate y'all having me. Slim Pushins: Thanks for joining us. Thanks for sinking down to our level. Corby Scherb: Pretty sure your voice has gotten way deeper since I met you. Carson bolden: ⁓ Well, you met me in the middle of 2024, so I'd really hope so. Corby Scherb: But yeah, man, you, your dad raised, right? Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah, he raised limiteds. I think he won the Devils Bowl championship in 2018 or 17, something like that. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Great family, man. You come from a good, good family. Slim Pushins: Why ⁓ sprint cars? Why didn't you follow in his footsteps, banging doors, slinging mud? Carson bolden: When we got to the point where I was out of a go-kart and I was kind of in the micro, he asked me, would you want to go late model or micro? And I don't know what made me pick micro, but I picked micro and now I'm in a sprint car. So, I mean, just kind of ever since I picked to go around a micro, it's just been like wing cars since then. Corby Scherb: Did you start young? Slim Pushins: out Carson bolden: I started racing go-karts when I was five actually and I got interviewed Friday night and it was cool because we were at Big O and he asked me when and where my first race was. My first race was at Big O in the infield track before they even made the go-kart trail. Corby Scherb: That's cool. That's cool. Slim Pushins: How did you have a good time ⁓ Friday night? Carson bolden: Running the 410 is a different animal, it's some of the most fun you can have. It's like just the adrenaline rush is insane. I love it. Slim Pushins: Yeah, we talked a little bit about Big O. I think all three of us watched it. was a, there was, there was a good field, fast field. Carson bolden: Yep. Corby Scherb: Yeah, Power Eye, no joke. I know we didn't really touch on Power Eye when we talked about ASES and ⁓ World of Outlaws stuff, but there's a ton of series out there that travel around that have, I mean... Tons and tons of talent that just whether they don't have the funding to make it to the world of outlaws yet They're they're young like Carson just trying to get some track time Because that's the biggest thing, you know, we talked to writer a little bit about it know, there's such a massive difference between a 305 and a 360 and then a 305 to a 410 is it's not even comparable like it's two totally different cars Carson bolden: Now I got in the 305 Saturday after running the 410 on Friday and I was like, this thing ain't running. Which I mean, it really wasn't running, I mean, it's a huge jump. Corby Scherb: Yeah And I don't think there's anything that can really prepare you for that. I know like midgets are one-off You know, you you've ran real good in a midget at the chili bowl ⁓ Midgets kind of compared to what a micro does in in a sense, but there's you know The 305 chassis are the exact same as the 410s and it is way different not even not even comparable on setup Slim Pushins: We're off. Speaking of chili bowl. Corby Scherb: That's when we pulled Jim Gardner into it. Slim Pushins: Was this last year, was that your first chili bowl? Carson bolden: is my second chillable. Slim Pushins: You went, who'd you drive for this last year? Carson bolden: Ledger Motorsports out of Nebraska. They filled Ty Ledger and Cody Ledger. They like run Nebraska, up in Nebraska all year. 305s mostly. Slim Pushins: How'd that come about? Carson bolden: so I've seen a post on, I was, looking for a midget ride and Ramy wasn't going to field the car that I drove the previous year. So I was really looking for one and I texted Tracy ledger. ⁓ actually I texted Caleb Gaines. He was a crew chief on that car. I asked him about it. He gave me Tracy's number. ⁓ they knew who I was from Nebraska. ⁓ so they kinda, they were okay with me driving it and it was like kind of a rental ride deal and it. It turned out to be a good deal because every crew member family of the Leisure family really, they're amazing. They're amazing to me. They hospitalized us great. Slim Pushins: Yeah. You did. You had a pretty good showing until you got caught up in something. Did you get into somebody? Carson bolden: Santino Ferrucci broke going on the front straight away and I clipped his right rear and then is a... Yeah. Jim Gardner: set the altitude record for the week. Corby Scherb: It was an eye-racing moment for sure. Carson bolden: Yeah, it was Iris in a moment. That explains it very good. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Was that, you've had a couple of incidents and I know in 305s, did you, you had a pretty good wreck. Where was that? Was that in Florida? Carson bolden: I crashed a 360, my first flip was 360 at Salina High Banks. And at ASCS race. That was huge, that was big. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Those wake you up, make you think. Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah, and especially that being my first one, was going into coming out of two, two, and it was hammered down. just did track rework. Slim Pushins: You Corby Scherb: That's the stuff that wakes you up and makes you really think if ⁓ I want to do this for sure or not. Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Corby Scherb: I'll go ahead and just bring this up, you know, I don't know if many people know Carson Carson's a little bitty guy So, you know, apparently we get mocked because it's a little bit easier for us to fit inside sprint cars ⁓ but ⁓ Yeah, man big crashes like that. It's tough and it The same you know, you you were running really good at the chili bowl whenever that happened ⁓ What's that stuff do to you, you know mentally? Carson bolden: Mm-hmm. It really like the one that like mentally was the most mentally tough for me. It's got to be the one at Eagle because we went up to Eagle a week before the Nationals and we're supposed to run Houston's the next day. And I got crashed second lap of the feature and Brewer in was junk. Fronting was junk of both wings, all the radius rods, arms, just like everything but the chassis and the motor. I mean, we replaced Corby Scherb: Yeah. Carson bolden: all of it that night, got it fired off that night and thought we had an a motor problem, because it wasn't getting an oil pressure, but it was just a gauge. and we went, that one was the most mentally tough because just how much work was involved just to be able to race the next day at Houston's and knowing that as soon as I got out of the car, we went back to the pits and went right to work. Corby Scherb: Right. It's tough, man. It's a grind. don't care if you're, you know, 50 years old still doing this or you're a kid still in high school taking, you know, like Kerbo brought up, you know, it's still in driver's ed. ⁓ This stuff is mental on a big level that a lot of times can be, you know, help physically. You play a lot of sports too. You do that through all through the winter and stuff. ⁓ You've always seemed to be super physical, ⁓ even as a driver. And I think that's the only way that you can mentally stay ahead of certain things. Carson bolden: Yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: What all sports do you play in high school? Carson bolden: basketball on track. Slim Pushins: Which is your favorite? Carson bolden: Definitely basketball, I hate track. I only do it to get out of school. Corby Scherb: Jimmy might be the only person who enjoyed running. Carson bolden: That's... No, no, there's no way. Jim Gardner: No, no, it's like Kenny Powers would say, you know, I play real sports. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising. Slim Pushins: So no, you never ventured into baseball. Carson bolden: I played baseball up until my seventh grade year of middle school when I started school sports. And I played football my seventh grade year and after that year I never stepped foot on a football field again. Slim Pushins: What happened? Carson bolden: I was like four foot three. That's what happened. Slim Pushins: So you just figured you'd be smarter than to stick around and football? Carson bolden: most. I grew my eighth grade year and they wanted me to play but I mean that's kind when racing was getting serious anyways and it's kind of right that August, September, October area so it's kind of like when racing season's the biggest. Corby Scherb: If you could. Jim Gardner: It's almost May, you're not playing school ball anymore. This ⁓ is some sort of select basketball league you're still in. Carson bolden: No, no. Yeah, well, last year, I think was probably the last year I've I did know that select basketball or a you just because last year I missed a bunch of games and to pay money to go play and I'm only playing so many games because I'm racing all every weekend, which is when the tournaments and stuff are it's just it's not worth it. So we have a spring league at our school, but we play every Tuesday, but Jim Gardner: Right. Carson bolden: It started three weeks ago and we've had no games so far because everybody's still on track. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Is that what you want to do? You want to go to college and play basketball? Slim Pushins: So. Yeah Carson bolden: then I don't know. I don't know. My dad's put the thought in my mind on going to college. I had my mind set that I wasn't going to, but he's kind of put the idea in my mind and kind of like trying to tuck me into it, but not so much tucking me into it. Just, I want to be a race car driver on a national tour when I grow up. Just, that's just what I want to do. So I'm just kind of like, Yeah, I got the rest of my life to go race, but if I go to play college or basketball, I'm not going to able to race that much. It's kind of like, I don't know, because that's four years of not racing if I don't, not racing as much other than just the summer. So I don't know. Corby Scherb: It's tough. It's what you want to do. It's where you feel that you're at whenever you get to that age, you your senior year, you should know for sure if you're going to throw everything away and just ⁓ work in the field like I do because I thought that I was going to be the best racer there ever was. It turns out I was really good at getting hurt and I was better. Yeah, I just want to bring that up, you know, as a it's a tough battle that you got to have to be a kid as long as you can. ⁓ Slim Pushins: You Corby Scherb: racing is the coolest thing that we get to do and how long a race would be there for you, you know, it's the same, it's same concept. Carson bolden: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: He's got so much more talent than you have, Corby. Corby Scherb: I ⁓ my God, anything. Jimmy went to college. Jimmy was a quarterback. Carson bolden: You Jim Gardner: Yep. Yep. I played college football for, for a year. ⁓ ended up getting knocked unconscious every time somebody missed a block. And my dad was like, Hey, you want to go race cars again? I was like, all right, sure. I mean, I didn't know, you know, couldn't tell you what my name was most Wednesdays, ⁓ after, after defensive practice on Tuesday. So, ⁓ it was fun. Carson bolden: quarterback. Jim Gardner: ⁓ you know, I took a break from racing to play sports in high school and I'm glad I did it. ⁓ there's plenty of time to get back into it post, but, ⁓ I also am just, ⁓ you know, local stroker, you know, you've, you've got the talent and ⁓ the, aspirations to go do really big, cool things too. ⁓ you know, we, we hope you and rider Lapland are throwing big three story slide jobs at each other. Well, Carson bolden: Appreciate that. Jim Gardner: for the next 25 years. ⁓ And we get to, well, we all get gray hair and fat. Yeah, right. And we'll still talk about it in front of our, both of our listeners. Carson bolden: Hope so too. Slim Pushins: while we still have tens of listeners. Carson bolden: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Yeah, how we used to know those guys. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson bolden: ⁓ god, here- Corby Scherb: No, it's cool, know, ⁓ Carson was just a young kid at the racetrack. And I think the first time that I actually like spoke to you, we were, ⁓ we were at Ardmore and, ⁓ I was, I was messing with Ben's, ⁓ in turn three about how tight we had to go with the race cars that night. And I ended up getting ballparked and then like the, and then the next week at Abilene, I think that you were like, dude, like this dude's like mental because we rebuilt a car and we were back Abilene the next weekend for, for another race, you know, and. Carson bolden: Yep, yep. Corby Scherb: That's the stuff, whether it's sports or racing, it's just like, you know, that's why I brought up the crashes. It's how much you're willing to just block out mentally to get back in and say that, I mean, things happen, whether it was, you know, your fault at the Chili Bowl, you know, or it was my fault in a situation. It's can you regroup and sit back down and do it all over again? Carson bolden: Mm-hmm. You speaking to that night at Ardmore, actually during the feature, I think I started like fourth and you started fifth and like going down the back straight away. I was slow. It was like my third race. I didn't know what I was doing and I was just running the top. I was in the way and I think coming off a two, one lap, like you were coming up and we barely touched each other and I was like, dude, I'm like, I was in the way. Like, I don't know what. Corby Scherb: It was. That's why that's why you threw sliders at me at Waco right was because of that moment Carson bolden: Yeah, I remember that. Well no, I threw Sliders into your wake-up because I really wanted my first win because I hadn't won in over a year. Corby Scherb: You were fast that night. just, we both, we did it to ourselves and let John in the fight. It would have been a lot simpler if it was just me and you. Slim Pushins: You two were screwing off and let Rick, it's just screamed by you. That's I've said it before on the podcast. That's one of the best races that I've seen maybe ever to the three of y'all just battling. Corby Scherb: It was good and it was, you know, like I'll call Carson out on his, you know, just his innocence and being young. ⁓ I watched us running down lappers and I knew that they were going to continue to slide high and then they kept just like chopping back off the racetrack. And I knew that if I just got so lucky, one of these lappers we'd catch, would be going on the back straight away. And whenever you went low, I could roll around you guys. And I took the lead and I'm like Cadillac easy. Carson bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: No problem, because I knew that I had gapped you at least like three car lengths and it's just, it's really hard to make that time back up. And then the caution came out and I'm like... Carson bolden: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I came out with five to go and you had got me. You put probably about a straightaway on me and ⁓ no on the restart, like I was the I was on the top both ends. I was on the top one and two. You were on the bottom one and two. So that's where I built my momentum on the top on the restart. I didn't know that was the first time I'd ever thrown a slider in a sprint car. So that you were like my test dummy on like going into three. Here goes nothing like I didn't I didn't know what I was doing. Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: You have no idea how many people can tell that exact same story of Cory being a test dummy. Most of them are tractor tires, but there's a couple of drivers here and there. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Now it was cool. It was a good race and it was a like I said, ⁓ I think from that weekend alone I probably saw the biggest growth in you because that was the first one that like hurt You know and like you said you hadn't won in a year anyways I'm sure there was others that had been leading up to that that hurt but that one really hurts you you had to leave the beginning and then you had a shot and then like you said first slider you just didn't know how to Do it and you didn't you gave me way too much room to turn back underneath you and it's just it's a process that we go through that it sucks whenever you don't clear that slider ⁓ but it hurts a lot more whenever you clear it too big and they drive right back by you like you were an idiot and why'd you do that? So that's the beauty of racing and ⁓ it's the same it doesn't matter even if you're on the basketball court you have just dumb moments that you have to learn and grow from ⁓ you know Carson bolden: Yeah. Yep. Yep. ⁓ plenty. Corby Scherb: That's so how old are you now? 15 15 and like I said, I can sit here and I've seen the growth in you as a racer. You got a shot man. You got you got a good good head on your shoulders. You come from a great family, a family that's done it before. And so of course, that's everyone's big dream to be like Jim Gardner when we grow up. Carson bolden: 15. Jim Gardner: and that's committed. I was gonna give his folks compliment. They are all in. Your dad, man, your dad just works his ass off on it. And your mom, man, you might as well strap your mom to the tail tank, man. She is on for the ride with every corner and every pass. She's just a. Slim Pushins: That's what? Corby Scherb: No, they are. Carson bolden: You Yeah. Slim Pushins: I need to video her some night. You need to see the emotion and anxiety and stress. Jim Gardner: We need a GoPro on a hat that clips back and points down to her face and just picture and picture it next to the race on broadcast. Slim Pushins: that your mother has. Carson bolden: You won't be able to see much. guarantee you she's just jumping up and down doing all kinds of crap. Pacing back and forth. Jim Gardner: It's shaking. Slim Pushins: It's crazy. It's crazy. But I have so much respect for it because ⁓ not only the opportunities that they give you, ⁓ the respect that they have. Jim is famous for saying that if you're gonna play an adult sport, then you get treated like an adult. And I know that it's hard. uh, for parents of a, of a 14, 13, 14, 15 year old, um, to relinquish that, that thought process that you're out there with, like you said, you know, in Waco that y'all were, y'all were throwing sliders and, and, and Arden, you're, you're going to make mistakes that, um, that they'll see that, you know, that you learned from. Jim Gardner: Yeah. And you're racing against grown ass men, uh, you know, who, who are, are good, know, if, if, if you junk them, you know, they don't really care that you're 15 years old, uh, and vice versa, you know? So I, uh, I do say that, you know, he's, I, in my fiery days, uh, might've crashed with a kid in, Indiana and I grabbed a handful of his Carson bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: helmet and chewed his ass before I realized he was probably only 15 years old. And, ⁓ you know, his mom came up to me with an attitude, rightfully so. ⁓ and I was like, look, you signed him up to race with adults. I'm gonna treat him like an adult. He's a moron. And, ⁓ you know, he can't do that. And I did the same thing to a couple of kids down here after I moved. ⁓ and yeah, well, you know, ⁓ but you've, ⁓ Carson bolden: Thank Slim Pushins: Carson's mom would have kicked your ass. Jim Gardner: you know, since you've been on the sprint car scene, you've, you know, showed everybody a lot of respect in class and we've never like had that issue, ⁓ you know, but, you know, Corby Scherb: It's all the times that me and Carson were iracing under the table. Jim Gardner: Probably yeah save that for iRacing stuff, but now it's You've been super clean and fast as hell Really hitting the ground running in that car. So It's been it's been cool to see and I know you wore Curvo and Corbjout when they had to drive to San Antonio and Houston ⁓ to Try to keep up for points a couple years ago Carson bolden: Yeah. ⁓ it happens plenty on iRacing. Yeah, appreciate it. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. Slim Pushins: Gah! Carson bolden: We were going everywhere, we were all in. Corby Scherb: But was cool, know, and... Yeah, it was... Slim Pushins: That was a good, that was a good stretch of, of four or five months. like the, the biggest of, competitiveness between, ⁓ our team and your team. ⁓ but there could not have been more respect between the two teams. And just traveling. mean, we. Corby Scherb: It was cool. ⁓ man. Slim Pushins: We knew that we were battling back and forth for Texas points and we went to some places that I haven't probably haven't been since. ⁓ Where are we? Cotton Bowl. ⁓ Y'all went up to Amarillo one weekend. ⁓ 105. Carson bolden: Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Slim Pushins: We all experienced the. Corby Scherb: It's funny. Honestly, I truly never thought that I would get old I figured I'd just die when I was young and then all of a sudden I was the old guy chasing the little kid down the road and on the racetrack it was a it was a it was weird I just never really thought that I'd have moments like that and Carson bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: It was such like a change of pace of like trying to help you and then, you know, like we can't take anything away from Benza. He's been a huge, huge help to you and your psyche and just you and your dad. I know, yeah, I've watched your dad and him get into it about setup and stuff. Carson bolden: Yep. Corby Scherb: He knows what he's doing and he knows you very well as a racer. And I think that that's just the same like Ryder and his dad and then Darren. And then it was me and Jimmy and Wesley and Kerbo. ⁓ They knew when to tell me just to shut up and get in the car. ⁓ There's plenty of times as a racer we just have to do that. Carson bolden: Mm-hmm. No. No, like John has been with me. I think the first time he came and helped me was probably 2021. End ⁓ of 2021, I think. ⁓ So funny story. We raced a micro at Creek County. I think in 2020, it was my first year. We had no clue what we were doing. Not an idea. ⁓ We just bought a D1 and had a Honda in it. Nobody had heard of Hondas and Micros at that point. And we didn't have a specific gear we needed. I don't know what gear it was. So we go and ask the Crouch team because they have like seven of the same exact cars lined up. And John, he was working for them at that point, just so happened to be the one that my mom asked about a gear for a Honda. And I think his response was, who in the world runs a Honda? Nobody's going to have a Honda gear. And he was just like rude to her. Slim Pushins: Hahaha Carson bolden: And so the first night he came and helped us, my mom looked at him and was like, this is the guy that's helping us, right? And my dad was like, yeah, yeah, it is. They say he's really smart. And my mom's like, no, no, get him out of my pit now. was like, ⁓ no, ⁓ I think he ended up helping us for rest of that year. most of 22, some, how about half of 2023. And then probably the beginning of 2024. And then we went off with Canada for the rest of that year. And then that deal ended. ever since then he came back to us for the first race, which was the Eagle Nationals. And that turned out pretty good, I'd say. And then, yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah, how'd that go? Corby Scherb: For sure. Yeah, pretty pretty big one to put in the back pocket. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson bolden: Yeah, so the first two races he came back was Eagle and the Summit Showdown. So it was kind of like off to a really hot start when we're back with John because we won both of those. No, but yeah, he's been with us for a long time and he's been a tremendous help just with us learning things and, you know, for the weekends that he's not there, we kind of have an idea on what to do now. But no, it's been a... Corby Scherb: And think your dad's done a good job too, the majority of the time at the racetrack. Your hands are dirty. He makes you go to work too. He can't just sit there and drive. Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's his mindset. If I don't work on it, I don't race it. Corby Scherb: Yeah, I like that. Slim Pushins: So I'm curious, do you look for your dad to give you signs as much as your dad gives you signs? Jim Gardner: Good. Carson bolden: No, he just like normally. So this weekend, for example, at Big O, I had no idea where he's standing. I don't have a clue. ⁓ So he's giving me some kind of signals for the first two times I roll by. And it was like a we just came back from a red flag. So they were still pushing everybody off. I look from the first two times, can't find him. And then the third time I find him, he's sitting there just scrolling on his phone. So I'm like, I'm like, I don't I don't. Like, I didn't see you any of the times the first two times, so I'm like, I don't know what. Yeah. Slim Pushins: I guarantee you he had my race pass up and he was looking at race lap times or the lineup. ⁓ Carson bolden: Yeah. Yeah. Jim Gardner: on Facebook marketplace seeing if he could sell it. Carson bolden: Yeah, he was on his phone doing something. I don't know what it was. And I think the lap after that we ended up going green and like I'm clueless like am I doing good or like what I need to do. But no, no, like he he normally gives me signs and after the first two times he gives me the same sign. I roll by him. He's just like. So I'm like, yeah, for sure. OK. Corby Scherb: Yeah, right. Slim Pushins: Ha I think I see him giving you that sign probably more times than not. And I don't know what that means. I don't know if that means that you've reached the point in sprint car racing that you're already, you already see things and you're already doing things and he's just agreeing with you or what. Carson bolden: Yeah. I think I okay, like, I've never we've never really talked about it. We probably definitely should. Because all the time it's just like. And then it's done and that's it. So I'm like, here's my head. I'm okay. All right. I think at one point last last year, the week I came back from Knoxville, we had a red flag. Slim Pushins: Here. Carson bolden: Kerbo, I ended up stopping on the backstretch right next to Kerbo. I don't remember what he said. I can't remember what you said. I just remember I stopped right next to you. I'm, Kennedy, Kennedy. Stopped on the backstretch. And I think my dad told you to tell me something and you told me and I'm like, what? And so my dad comes over there and tells me and then I'm trying to, just like you told. Jim Gardner: I'm sure it was riveting. Slim Pushins: Wait, where... where were we? Jim Gardner: Sure, it's very informative. Slim Pushins: Did I tell you to keep digging? Corby Scherb: Jesus. Carson bolden: Good. Corby, yeah. No, I don't know what I don't know what it was. But and then after that, you told me, yeah, I can't remember what you told me. It was something. And I was like, OK, like I don't know what it was. But. Corby Scherb: Such a terrible mistake. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Slim Pushins: I don't remember what I was trying to tell you and I don't remember what you responded back with, but I do remember thinking that you could literally not care any less about what it was that I was trying to tell you. Corby Scherb: because I'm sure it was pointless. Slim Pushins: Well, I'm not going to tell him. If I'm telling him something, it's because somebody told me to tell him. If it's any sort of strategy or anything like that, otherwise I'll just, you know, tell me it looks good in his fire suit under red or something like that, you know. Carson bolden: Yeah, well, and in that situation, like, I would be like, fun about it, like, what are you talking about? But I was leading. it's kind of, ⁓ I remember that exact night, Jaren's second. ⁓ But yeah, I was leading and we had like seven to go and I'm like stressing over here. Yeah, I remember that night. Slim Pushins: Let's. Corby Scherb: Yeah, we talk about it a lot, know, Kennedy else tough man, Kennedy was super tough to get a win at. There's a lot of fast guys that like to show up late in races. Carson bolden: Yeah, that's like my I remember one part of what my dad was telling me was like, dude, you got it like you got it one pretty much like nobody has anything for you. Just put it straight away straight away on second. So I'm like, great. Just keep doing what I'm doing and go on a. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I go on a a restart. Marcus Thomas just actually bombs me. So I'm like, well, I guess I guess I don't have a straight away anymore. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Keep digging. Jim Gardner: It's a kiss of death. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yeah, that place is tough man. ⁓ A lot of fast guys, lot of the older guys like Marcus, Chad, John, Jed, those guys know when they can attack and when they're supposed to sit still. ⁓ I think Kennedyl is one of the best tracks that you can get yourself in more trouble than you can actually benefit yourself. ⁓ But what's your big plans this year? What are you going for? Slim Pushins: So. Carson bolden: OCRS pays really good. ⁓ I really wish we could, you know, try to move up and go run some 360 or 410 stuff, but we just don't have the motor or the funds for any of that. So right now we just gotta go with what we have and the OCRS deal pays really good. I think it's $25,000 to win points. So we'll go chase that. Jim Gardner: What, ⁓ they just canceled their race at Lawton, but Lawton still racing, ⁓ but it's not a no CRS show. Carson bolden: So I, I seen, I, were at the dyno this morning and I see a post and it's says revised schedule for 2026. And I go to look at it and this weekend's race is not on there. So I just seen a bunch of people like reposting it saying, is this how they're going to tell us that Lawton's not racing and just like a bunch of, so they didn't actually come out and say Lawton's not racing. They just removed it from the schedule, but Lawton hasn't, and it's still on the race pass schedule. And Lawton hasn't said anything about not racing us and OCRS hasn't posted anything about not racing this weekend. They just took it off the schedule. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I saw lot and has a post that it's, it's not an OCRS show and it's a revised format and they're still running the it's a track points race and stuff. didn't know. I don't know the context of it. haven't really kept up with that whole scene up there. So Carson bolden: Oh really? I did not see that. Yeah. Corby Scherb: Looks like Waco and RPM this weekend. Jim Gardner: Double-definite. ⁓ you're probably you're probably too young to run TMS Yeah, that sucks Carson bolden: Yep, yep, gotta be 16. Unfortunate. Slim Pushins: I thought, I thought there was a stipulation or something that you had to get clearance from them or somebody to vouch for you or something. Jim Gardner: I didn't even think about that. Corby Scherb: No. Carson bolden: I think that So actually, ⁓ when you're 16, you have to be ⁓ approved to go run it. When you're 18, you can run it. But from 16 to 18, you have to be approved to run it. Jim Gardner: Okay. Is that the same way with the outlaws? Slim Pushins: Okay. Carson bolden: That's what the outlaws, I don't know what high limit is, but that's what the outlaws. Jim Gardner: They're, they probably run the same procedure because you ran TMS at, in the fall with Power Eye, right? So this is a, this is a series issue, not a track issue. But like, think like Eldora, you're not allowed to run anything until you're 16 or. Yeah. Right. But, ⁓ yeah. So I, it's probably for the best, ⁓ you know, for every one Carson Bolden out there, there's 115 year olds that have no business running. Carson bolden: Power I, correct, Yep, yep. No, Eldora and Knoxville. Eldora and Knoxville. Those are the two tracks. Jim Gardner: a high limit show. ⁓ we'll, we'll cut it. It's just like the chili bowl deal, you know, where you had to be approved for that, but, ⁓ same thing. There's, there's a hundred micro kids out there who have the money, ⁓ but don't need to be running chili bowl until they're 16. So, ⁓ anyway, that sucks, but go. So are you going to go to Waco and RPM as of now? Yeah. Carson bolden: Yep. Anywhere we can race. Yeah, as of now just anywhere around here. Well, we like to race All the time so just anywhere Jim Gardner: That's good. Slim Pushins: So y'all haven't decided, or are you going to try to do Friday and Saturday? Are you going to do double header this weekend? Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah. If... Corby Scherb: Tell dad to open up the wallet. Jim Gardner: Do they? Now that you got your driver's permit, are you on holler duty yet? Carson bolden: No, I'm not on, no not yet. It's coming soon. It's coming. It's coming. Jim Gardner: Wow, man. I think more like one of the first times I drove when I was 15, we were leaving a go-kart track and my dad like had a huge massive migraine or something. He was a cop. So his schedule was all over the place. And I think he was just shutting down on the highway and he was like, Hey, you got to drive this thing. I was like, you're supposed to be awake when I drive. goes, I don't care. Okay. Carson bolden: Yeah. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Just learn how to drive the trailer, learn how to back the trailer so Corby doesn't make fun of you. Corby Scherb: Yeah, Kerbo, you can't call yourself a truck driver and then not be able to back up a trailer. Jim Gardner: I man I just- I got to tell you, I just backed my trailer up to Lucas Scherb's place and it was, it was tight. And I was like, God, he was watching me and I, know, you don't want to embarrass yourself, especially in front of Lucas. ⁓ it, yeah. Cause Lucas hopped out and he's like, Hey, you want me to back it out? I was like, no, I don't. Corby Scherb: It's pretty sketchy. You Carson bolden: Yeah. Slim Pushins: in front of Lucas of all people. Corby Scherb: No, you can't, it's not the embarrassment of Lucas, if you drove through his grass... ⁓ yeah, cause if you drove it through his grass, I promise you he would have lost everything. Jim Gardner: I know. He probably would have cut me some slack. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Well, he might not have said anything to you, I can promise he'd be talking about you behind your back. Corby Scherb: I promise you that Lucas got on the ground and apologized to his grass whenever you backed out of there. Jim Gardner: I stayed off the grass, I was like, man, I think we should just push all this stuff out here. Carson bolden: Ha ha! Slim Pushins: That must be just a Lucas respect thing because last time you parked at my house, you parked in the middle of my front yard. Carson bolden: Yeah. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Lucas is ridiculous about his grass, so I'm sure he was standing out there just gnawing at his fingernails waiting. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Pretty much. Slim Pushins: So good that you're racing around here this weekend, because Jim's been sweating you racing OCRS and not getting the power ranking data that you need. Carson bolden: Yeah, ⁓ this year definitely not been the start that I would ⁓ hope for. Just ⁓ got that motor. No, no, no, definitely not. No, it just. ⁓ Jim Gardner: Well. Corby Scherb: Can we blame John yet? Not yet, alright, not yet. Jim Gardner: Well, the... The slim push ins 305 DFW 305 power ranking super mega bowl power rankings championship does not have a $25,000 point fund so. Carson bolden: That's very unfortunate, was looking forward to that. ⁓ Slim Pushins: We're looking for sponsors to sponsor a decal, ⁓ one decal. It's just a Slim Pushins Power Ranking winner 2026 decal. Jim Gardner: You heard it. Carson bolden: Yeah Jim Gardner: Yeah, yeah, so, you know ⁓ you do what you got to do, ⁓ you know, but Slim Pushins: pushing the cushion will be just fine. As long as... Right. Carson bolden: I'm not. Corby Scherb: We have him on the show right now, automatically gaining viewers. Carson has a huge social media following. Slim Pushins: He could have. Carson bolden: I should, did y'all post about it? Slim Pushins: About, no, no about you being on it? No, not yet. Carson bolden: No, about it being live? Okay. I was just saying I can share it real quick and then I'd get plenty of viewers, plenty of them. Jim Gardner: Now, I've got... Slim Pushins: No, we're not... we're not live. Jim Gardner: Well, we're not live. ⁓ Probably. Yeah. Carson bolden: Okay. Okay. Slim Pushins: We're trying to protect you from our friends is what a lot of the reason we just never know. I don't know if you caught our live yesterday or rewatched it, but there were a bunch of comments and it was a whole bunch of trash talk. But there was some good that came out of it. ⁓ Stasa and Jeb are starting a petition to make Jim drop their two worst races of the year. Carson bolden: You Yeah. Slim Pushins: from the inaugural Memorial Slim Push-Ins 305. Jim Gardner: Megaball Super Belt. Carson bolden: Hey, I'd gladly sign that petition. I'd gladly sign that petition. I've had a horrendous start to this year. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Jim Gardner: I can't, I can't drop one race. I'll have zero races. So. Carson bolden: ⁓ Slim Pushins: Yeah, we've gotten a lot of comments about the power rankings. A lot of threats, lot of threats, death threats. Jim Gardner: Ugh. Talk about the. Carson bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah, man, it's tough and we talked about it a bit yesterday, you know, ⁓ I don't care if you're drawing if ⁓ It's qualifying It's so important where you start in your heat race. It's so important to have such a good first lap your heat race I don't care if they do an electronic redraw at Kennedale or however you do it ⁓ It's it's it's really rare around here that you can start deeper than eighth and really do something Because it's like you're saying, you know you you get you get caught up in the back and next thing you know Like yeah, we're running in 12th, but it's with Claude Estes and Colby Estes, you know No chumps that you're just gonna drive around Carson bolden: Yeah, exactly. Jim Gardner: I think that's one of the reasons I wanted to do the power rankings is that we want to make sure that if you do go 19th to ninth, that it's noteworthy, right? Because it's such a war back there. ⁓ it really throughout the whole field, you know, it's why we make sure we bring up the hard chargers and the guys who go up, move up some spots because, ⁓ there's a lot going on and it's tough. It is tough top to bottom around here. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Well, and we we talked about it too, you know, I call it quicksand, ⁓ know, carcin could probably vouch for this, you know, you get caught up with a couple of those guys and then next thing, you know, two laps later you're running their pace and then all of a sudden you feel in your head like you got to do something drastic to like Gain the pace of the leaders and you go and do that that was stupid that didn't work So you just get back in line with them and then two laps later. You're like, what am I doing? Like I'm faster than these guys You know, and ⁓ it's just it that Carson bolden: Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Corby Scherb: The slow guys that off the pace, know, they're four tenths off the pace, you know, it's not like we're racing with guys that are seconds off the pace in a feature there. Carson bolden: Yeah, last year, middle of last year, me and my dad kind of had a talk. Like, am I given 100 % like every last minute of being on track or am I just like, is there times where I'm just like, like settling and just riding? And there was a race last year, I ran third risk, we probably should have won. Jeb and Chad finished first and second. ⁓ I was, I was like, Corby Scherb: Yeah. Carson bolden: I felt like I was writing and I felt like he was right. Like I just get like settled in and I'm not pushing myself to go past these guys. And it's, it's hard not to also just like you have a, I think it was 25 laps that night. Like I think I got to a point where we were like all running the top and it's just kind of like a, like a habit or not a habit, but yeah, yeah. Like follow the leader, but Slim Pushins: I'm follow the leader. Carson bolden: Kind of like you get settled and you're like, like I said, like you're just not pushing yourself anymore. And we had that talk and like, kind of agreed with him. Like there was like that, that race, especially like I just, I wasn't giving it a hundred percent every time I was on a race track. Corby Scherb: And it's tough and like you say you're following someone like Chad and Jeb, you know that they're ripping or in your head they're going as fast as they could possibly go and it takes a different mental aspect for you to say I'm still faster than them. I can do something different to get by them, you know, and Carson bolden: ⁓ huh. Yeah. Corby Scherb: There's times that we as racers even you as being really young you have to try something different something unique that maybe would work like maybe I just pull off the cushion coming off turn two and It's either gonna work, but then it's the same concept. What if it doesn't work and then I get freight train by three other cars You know, it's Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah. Nope. And you were talking about earlier about the heat race starting position. I wanted to bring that up. Like this year at Kennedale, I've raced there three times and I think I drew a 90 the first night, 86 the second night. And I don't remember. I think my mom drew me like a 78 last weekend. So it's just been absolutely like horrible starts to the night every night. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Carson bolden: And it's just like, and it's hammered down, like, and there's nothing Canada can necessarily do about it. I mean, we're all, early in the night, like, ⁓ and Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: It's been better this year than years past. It's been at least a little racy ⁓ for the heat races, but still it's tough sledding. It's an uphill battle. Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And yeah, especially with this motor that we've been running not running to its full potential to start the year. ⁓ We've had some issues fueling gear or just anything we can really think of. ⁓ especially with it not. Go ahead. Jim Gardner: I told Corby all the time, this game is called motor sports for a reason. It's not called chassis sports or shock sports or tire sports. Your motor better bang to its potential or what, you know, you're in a rough spot. Carson bolden: Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: With the competition in the Metroplex, you just can't afford to have any hiccups. That's just the fact. It's a fact of the matter. Everything's got to hit on all cylinders because there's eight or 10 of you that are as fast, you know, the fastest in the field. And if there's any sort of a hiccup or any sort of a miss, ⁓ it shows, ⁓ especially at Kennedale. Carson bolden: Yeah, the Metroplex area has, realistically, some of the hardest competition in the country just for 305s. feel ⁓ like just around here and ⁓ Nebraska is probably the hardest competition for 305s. Like when us Texans go up and race Nebraska for Eagle, ⁓ you know, normally we have three or four of them in the top 10 on the final night. It's just, it's not, it's not just easy competition down here just because we're not an Eagle. or in Nebraska where it started, it's kind of like we have the exact same ⁓ kind of drivers and ⁓ the same talent level down here as they do up there. Corby Scherb: Yeah, and I think that there's enough of correction around here not just stupidity Everyone around here tries to race as clean as possible and a lot of our tracks are not super easy to pass on I know RPM gets a lot of praise RPMs kind of kind of a little bit easier to throw a slider at Kennedy you got to be I mean really on point and then like I said we talked about Waco Waco's tough to the for your slider to stick Waco's really easy to throw the slider. It's different to make it stick because it's real typically really good on entry ⁓ And it's the same. mean Ardmore you've wanted Ardmore before Ardmore's no joke, man There's some of those Oklahoma guys that never come to Texas that are wicked fast Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah, definitely. ⁓ Yeah, Ardmore was my first win. It came from third. ⁓ Yeah, that was, I've struggled at Ardmore so much. So just to be able to win at a track that I've struggled at so much was, that was special, especially for it to be my first one. Corby Scherb: Yeah, Ardmore, don't we definitely haven't given Ardmore enough credit. Ardmore is a super cool racetrack. ⁓ yeah. Carson bolden: Yeah, especially when it gets slick and you know, there's two lanes around right around the tires are up on the banking up top. It's it's really cool to to go up there and like actually race like race against somebody instead of just like like when I won, I will say like it was pretty hammered down, like not much passing. But you know, it's still like still good racing too. like ⁓ I had to throw a slider on Chad for the lead and probably might not have been Corby Scherb: Yeah. Carson bolden: cleanest slider because it was very narrow but ⁓ no that face is face is super cool even when it's not fully slick or even when it doesn't meet its potential it's still fun and it puts on good racing. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yeah, turn three is the scariest turn in the history of racing. Whenever it gets all the way to the top, it's gnarly. I nothing. It's just... Jim Gardner: about. Carson bolden: Definitely. Yeah, 100 % because the wall ends and then you like it's you just see like a downhill slide going into three. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Jim Gardner: Talk about your relationship with Chad. Chad Wilson drove your car at Abilene a couple of weeks ago. ⁓ just talk about how that dynamic and how that comes apart. Carson bolden: Well, when we started kind of parking, when we were parked next to each me and Corby parked next to each other every weekend, I know he was close with Chad, him and my dad. Slim Pushins: Depends on the weekend. Carson bolden: Yeah, Chad and my dad, ⁓ they became friends. over time, like last year, Corby wasn't racing much. We of parked in the same area. We got closer to Chad with Chad. And last year, we had to send our motor off ⁓ to get refreshing. And we sent our chassis off to get fixed because it was bent. We had two more races at the end of the year we wanted to run. One was literally five minutes from my house. So I drove Chad's car. The last two races last year at Greenville in Rocket. I ended up going seventh to second in both races. Both races. What was that? But this year we still have motor problems and Jim Gardner: No, go ahead, I'm sorry. Carson bolden: Mom wanted me to go to prom. Much rather be at the race check, but. Jim Gardner: That's a good thing. Slim Pushins: We all wanted you to go to prom. Jim Gardner: Yeah, that's all right. It might be, but you still just gotta go. Carson bolden: So overrated, so overrated. I had fun. I had. Slim Pushins: It's a rite of passage. Carson bolden: I had fun, it's just like, our prom's only two hours. I know my parents talked about it, theirs being four or five hours, but ⁓ ours only two hours. And literally we got there at 8.20 and left at 9.30. So it's kind of like, I didn't even stay for the full two hours, got there late after eating. ⁓ Just like, we were there for an hour and 10 minutes. It wasn't nothing really special. Corby Scherb: It's cool dude, you'll remember it one day. Promise. I made Ryder go too. I made Ryder make sure that he went to prom. Slim Pushins: Alright. Carson bolden: Yeah Slim Pushins: You know, Jim, you and Corby don't know this, but that the week that he went to prom, I texted him. said, Hey, are you going to go to prom? And he responded back. I hope not. Jim Gardner: Hahaha! Slim Pushins: because he wanted some RPM, RPM ended up getting rained out. Carson bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Is it, is the big OCRS race? thought. Carson bolden: Yeah. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Yep. Yeah, it was the Arrowhead stuff, wasn't it? Slim Pushins: ⁓ yeah. Carson bolden: It was... Slim Pushins: It was RPM. was the week, it wasn't at the night that Chad drove your car in Abilene, right? Carson bolden: Yeah, it wasn't RPM because we had plans to go... ⁓ it was Arrowhead, but it wasn't the big race. It wasn't the big race. It was, it was because they canceled the races and moved it to a different place. Corby Scherb: as ariah okay okay you're right Yep. Jim Gardner: It was supposed to be at Thunderbird. Yeah, yeah. Carson bolden: Yeah, Thunderbird, there you go, there you go. They moved it to Arrowhead and Arrowhead ended up raining out. And then RPM rained out, which I was going to race through, it was at RPM. But... ⁓ Corby Scherb: ⁓ There we go. Slim Pushins: Well, we're glad that you went to prom. I don't know how glad you are that Wilson didn't Wilson it up a second place finish that night. Carson bolden: Yeah, so I had it won necessarily. From this is all news from my dad when I called him after prom and he was on his way home and he was probably more mad than I'll just say I'm glad I wasn't driving and I did that. I'll just Chad was like beating Rickett's bumper off and got under him and just murdered a tire. Slim Pushins: You Jim Gardner: ⁓ You'll have that in big time racing. Slim Pushins: That's all. Carson bolden: said he said he did it 360 wheeling through the infield like they I think he ended up restarting fifth or something and finished third but no that actually cost me to do like a bunch of work because so it barely it barely barely snatched the front end so we put another front end in there turns out the front end that we put in there was like Slim Pushins: Ha ha! Carson bolden: Like instead of like the ends of the, where the kingpins go instead of being like this, they were like this. So it was like all messed up axle. So soon as we got done racing, at Kennedale, I had to take that axle out, build another axle, take that axle apart. I had to build the axle that he bent. And then I put that one in the car and then I had to take the one that I just took out of the car and build it on another axle. So it just like, my entire Monday was occupied with just axles, axles, axles. Jim Gardner: That sounds like a typical Monday at Sherb Racing in 2024. Corby Scherb: If you ever need help with a front axle ⁓ build buddy, you just call me, because I am a professional at rebuilding front axles. Carson bolden: Thanks to Chad. Jim Gardner: It's just another day that ends in Y for Corby. Carson bolden: Okay. Corby Scherb: The amount of infield tractor tires I've mowed down is unbearable. Slim Pushins: Carson, you have no idea. the time you came around, he had learned the absolute hard... When they say you learn from the school of hard knocks, that whole saying came about because Corby kept just mowing down tractor tires. Carson bolden: I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. Corby Scherb: But back to the Chad thing, know, man, I've known Chad, honestly, I've pretty much known him my whole life. And me and Chad have had our moments on the racetrack ⁓ from both of us. Chad is a really good dude and Chad wants to see the sport grow. I think that Chad's always tried to give back to all of us. Chad is, you know, truly one of the few people in the pit area that not only will give you his tape measure to measure his car, he'll come over and put the same setup on your car and help you do it. Carson bolden: Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Corby Scherb: You know, he's a super good guy and the biggest thing that I have or the most respect that I have for Chad is Chad races me on the racetrack. I think he's been nice to me like twice, but he races me like I'm anyone else on the racetrack, you know. ⁓ That dude is an absolute ripper, always has been and always will be. Carson bolden: Yeah. Yeah. Well, whenever I first started racing sprint cars, like we heard all these like stories like, don't go near Chad Wilson on the racetrack. And then like my dad, my dad talked to him, talked to him earlier and he was like, dude, what happened to the Chad Wilson that we heard about before we started racing? Like I have never seen that Chad Wilson, like don't go near him at the bike when you're on the racetrack. He's like, yeah, he'll race you. Like I've never seen. Jim Gardner: you Corby Scherb: you He was pretty gnarly there for a while. But it was the same, him and Marcus and George White. There was a lot of them right then that I mean absolutely just junk you. Get out of the race car and be like, I'm sorry about that. And then walk off and be like, what do mean you're sorry about that? Carson bolden: Yeah, and. ⁓ huh. Yeah. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I think I think we had a run-in with him with one of the Sherb cars During hot laps. I think he slid a slow car and it caught up Logan. Is that the whole Boyd fiasco? Maybe no that was Carson bolden: ⁓ Corby Scherb: Logan. No, the boy the void when Logan went off the turn two that was mine and Logan's fault that wasn't Chad wasn't involved in that one Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah. So it's all blurred in the one big beating, but he, he like slid a guy who was five seconds off the pace and got into somebody, one of our cars and tore us up and he, know, him and his brother and everybody, they came down with parts and stuff. And I remember just turn around and be like, Hey, we don't need your help. You've done enough. And, know, I've shoved him away. Slim Pushins: You Jim Gardner: And then, you know, then I think we talked about it and it's, one of those things. Some of the best relationships I have are guys that I've, you know, been in their face a time or two. then, and then when cooler heads prevail, you can kind of see, see everybody's perspective and gain a little bit of respect of where everybody's coming from. But, ⁓ there was a time, you know, right around when I first moved here, when, when Sherbs were just. Slim Pushins: Shun. Jim Gardner: fighting for our lives back there in 13th and Chad was out front, you know, just kicking our ass every week that the 20 car was the gold standard of town that we all were kind of jaded about and kind of like, we, we have to beat, this to beat the 20 car, you know, and iron sharpens iron. we needed, we needed that rabbit to chase. We really needed Chad's. Carson bolden: You Yeah. Jim Gardner: ⁓ you know, his stuff always looks good and pristine and he's got a nice team with matching shirts and, and, and he, he made us all better because we wanted to get there so badly, you know? Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah. Corby Scherb: He's a clean freak, he's absolutely ridiculous about it. Carson bolden: You talk about ⁓ the best relationships with people that you've ⁓ got in their face, but we've seen that chat one time. take that back. ⁓ At Big O, ⁓ we were in the same heat race. I think somebody went off the top of turn two, first lap, had to get towed off. Next restart. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: ⁓ yeah. Corby Scherb: I was there. Carson bolden: I make the exact same mistake, go off the top of turn two, hit the wall, knocked the ladder out of it. And so the bad part about it is I hit the wall, I pulled back out on the track, and then it just shut down on the top of two. Because I was on the wall still. ⁓ so it looked like I just pulled up and stopped right there. So guess Chad was mad because he got a really good start that time, and he thought that I just stopped because I got a terrible start so he was all up in my dad's face. Corby Scherb: Well, I remember though, he got a really good start and then on the next restart, he went for the same move and I can't remember who was outside of it, but they predicted it and then Chad got into him and then tore up a Jacob slider in his car. Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah. So like it was like a he got a good start and I ruined it and then yeah, just and then he was off of my dad's face and ⁓ yeah, it was a big ordeal and finally they ended up apologizing to each other and ⁓ Jim Gardner: Yeah, it it cooler cooler heads prevail and you know Corby Scherb: No, I love that guy. Well, and that's the definition. Chad races you. Chad, I think, has raced everyone. In Chad's mind, you're as good as what Chad is. And Chad forgets that he's probably a lot better than you that night, and you just happen to get lucky and be there. ⁓ But that's always been a cool thing that I've... Chad has never junked me. Chad has always raced me very aggressive. and probably giving me too much leniency and sometimes but I mean I absolutely love that guy look up to him as an uncle and like Jimmy said it took people like that to push everyone else even you know look at Kyle Jones chase Chad for a long time and Chad and Kevin Ramey are still to this day can get into any car just like yours Carson and absolutely rip Carson bolden: Uh-huh. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Jim Gardner: Yeah. It, like I said, iron sharpens iron and, you know, y'all's, 2024 battle was, you know, was a little bit of that. You know, you guys drove halfway across Texas to go race, to try to beat each other and then look what happens, you know, everything kind of works out. Carson bolden: Mhm. Corby Scherb: I remember the first time that I saw Carson on the racetrack. ⁓ And I think that you might have raced a couple of them before then. But I remember we were at Waco and it was a 15 lap feature. It was a small field that night. ⁓ I was trying to run down Claude and I lapped you. And I was like super, super respectful. Like I kind of chopped you off going into turn three and you knew I was a lapper. gave me all the room in the world. And I swear it was like two weeks later you were throwing a slider with me. You know? Jim Gardner: That's a topic for another day. Carson bolden: Yeah, no, like I really needed like the the Waco just to build my confidence that was like that wasn't my biggest day like Like the heat race that night it was like slick and then it was like rough moisture and then there was like moisture and then three and four was just absolutely hammered out and I think that night like I Did I just like kind of sent it in the heat race and I ended up going like four to one and so I'm like, okay good Yeah, like we're good. Like I got confidence now and then like Corby Scherb: Right. Mm-hmm. Carson bolden: I'm leading the future and yeah, like just from then it's kind of like I built confidence and I had confidence in my car and myself and where I was at on the racetrack, just all of that. Yeah. Corby Scherb: Just knowing you deserve to be there, you know? ⁓ That's the biggest thing, I think. I don't care if it's just like me, I try to physically prepare myself mentally. A lot of times you still have to be proven it on the racetrack that not only did you lead the race, that even whenever I got by you, like you ran my pace and then you got to throw sliders, it takes those small glimpses. And if you're young and you're hungry like you are, that's all that it takes to say that I can do this. Carson bolden: Mm-hmm. Yeah, and like ever since that night that I'm kind of running up front, like it's kind of just been from there just like learning how to be better when I'm in those situations. Like what could I have done better to try and beat you or beat Ricketts? Like it's just from there, it's just learning. Corby Scherb: Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and then we still got guys like Kevin Ramey and Chad Wilson we got to deal with or when Kyle Jones to show up and Jeb and Claude and I mean the list can just continue to go on and on DJ ⁓ all these guys that Colby Stubblefield that win There's just Carson bolden: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Colby Stubblefield, the current DFW 305 Slim Pushins Power Ranking Super Mega Bowl Championship leader. Slim Pushins: Super Mega Bowl Championship. Corby Scherb: There's so many guys around here that can do it on any given night. And I think that, like you say, when people go to Nebraska from Texas, ⁓ it's a big thing. The same like me and you going to 105 and you were wicked fast the night that I struggled. ⁓ You ⁓ were right there. And that was just, it was one of those moments I think the same as Waco. You could have done something a little bit different. Jim Gardner: You Carson bolden: ⁓ huh. Corby Scherb: You know and it's it's hard to be a young racer and still new in the big cars to know what you did wrong And then you can show up like me a couple weeks later and like I told you you watch it's gonna be draw redraw tonight and sure enough I draw 12 and know it's gonna suck Carson bolden: I think I just got a charlie horse. ⁓ You're drinking Gingeraid! That's too much! Slim Pushins: FF- Corby Scherb: You better start drinking some water. Put the Gatorades down. The Gatorades down, drink some water. Jim Gardner: Get a banana. Slim Pushins: That's that's the, that's the push in the cushion curse. Jim Gardner: You Carson bolden: ⁓ She's not here, they're eating! ⁓ Corby Scherb: I'm texting your mom right now to bring you some salt. ⁓ God, here we go. We to call 911 on the podcast. Slim Pushins: Kyle Jones was blaming pushing the cushion for him flipping this last weekend. Carson bolden: ⁓ Jim Gardner: Yeah, a thousand miles away from the lead Carson bolden: My luck can't get any worse this year. My luck cannot get any worse this year. This might actually be the opposite for me. I don't know. Corby Scherb: hahahaha Jim Gardner: Eat a banana, son. Corby Scherb: I told him this week, I said, man, you just need like a boost of confidence right now. Like you need to know you still deserve to be here and go out there and be able to continue to chase. Dude. Carson bolden: ⁓ It's not off to a good start though on being the opposite. We're not even done with it. already... Corby Scherb: We'll look at you right now. Well, maybe this is the only pain that comes out of this Just got you a good charlie horse Slim Pushins: This is your sign. Carson bolden: This is taking over for the the curves instead of on the right stick. I don't know. I did skip workouts today. Corby Scherb: Yeah, apparently you need to do some more calf raises this week. See? Slim Pushins: Corby's already mad at you for skipping a workout today. Corby Scherb: Dude, go get some salt right now. Go take a lick of salt. Carson bolden: Dude! Hold on, it'll be alright. Maybe not. Corby Scherb: Stand up. This is gonna be the greatest podcast of all time. Slim Pushins: This is fun. Jim Gardner: Corby's gonna start talking about macros and... Carson bolden: So It's not helping for me. Slim Pushins: This is, this is, we're gonna get more views. Corby Scherb: You need some salt or a banana or... I mean at this point chocolate would probably even help. Carson bolden: you Jim Gardner: Is it your gas leg or your brake leg? Carson bolden: That's my throttle leg! Corby Scherb: Rollin' off too much. Slim Pushins: My throttle leg. Jim Gardner: That's not good. Carson bolden: Okay, ow, ow! It was getting better. Slim Pushins: For those of you that aren't watching, for those of you not watching, he's dancing and prancing around his room trying to work out this Charlie horse. Corby Scherb: You gotta move, can't just sit there, you gotta stretch. Where's it at, quad? Hamstring? Carson bolden: ⁓ Right here. So my hamstring. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, hamstring. Slim Pushins: Jim, right at the hour mark. Go ahead and mark that. We know where this is going. Jim Gardner: Mark that. Carson bolden: down. Corby Scherb: Bend over, stand up and bend over, bend straight down. Bend straight down at your hips. Pull it back up. Easy, don't stretch it all the way, but good nut. What are you gonna do if you get that in a sprint car? Now what? Carson bolden: ⁓ ⁓ ⁓ I don't know No! Slim Pushins: This is the best ever. You can't write this stuff. Corby Scherb: Your mom's probably gonna yell at me. I probably did it wrong. Carson bolden: ⁓ that hurt. I felt it coming too. I thought it was just gonna be a little cramp, but then it just kept getting progressively worse. Corby Scherb: This is it, this is how it ends, right here. Jim Gardner: Ugh. Slim Pushins: Well, thanks for joining us. Jim Gardner: Well, like John Daly said, you can't pull fat. So I haven't had that issue in a while. Carson bolden: ⁓ Slim Pushins: Yeah, maybe you a diet coke and a cigarette. Carson bolden: Oh, I don't know where that came from Um, I think it's cut. Slim Pushins: You know who doesn't get cramps? Guys like me that don't work out. Carson bolden: Who's that? Slim Pushins: Look how well it's turned out for me. Jim Gardner: and worry about their macros. Carson bolden: Bye. Yeah. ⁓ think it's going away. Corby Scherb: Carson does it what's Carson? Carson? Have we have we like broaden the diet yet? Still playing hamburgers. Carson bolden: ⁓ no, no, no, it's still the same picky eater you knew in 2024. Corby Scherb: Okay, all right, all right, making sure, making sure. Carson can't count macros because there's no way he could eat enough of that food to make it. Jim Gardner: Okay. This is not a dietary podcast. Let's get back to racing. Yeah. Slim Pushins: No, but it is public interest. So what is it, just chicken fingers and dry hamburger? Corby Scherb: Yeah. Carson bolden: When I go to a Mexican restaurant, get chicken strips and french fries. That should tell you everything you know. Slim Pushins: You ever met Wout? You two need to hang out. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson bolden: ⁓ I love, wow, me and hung out a bunch of chewed they chewed out in Chili Bowl. Jim Gardner: you Slim Pushins: Was that before he got shunned at shootout? Carson bolden: Um, well I talked to him after all of that happened and he was kind of like the, yeah, and he was kind of like the, uh, I don't care. I was like, Oh, okay. All right. I like, he's, he's, he's cool. Corby Scherb: The whoops-a-daisy. Slim Pushins: He's a good dude. love, we love Wout. He, we promised, I promised to take him to the casino and then Jim promised him that we take him to an NHRA event. Jim Gardner: That's right, we're Ennis in October. Corby Scherb: Are you good Carson? You're back in the game? Jim Gardner: Nitro. Carson bolden: Yeah, I think so. I think so. I think we're, ⁓ think we're past that. Slim Pushins: There was touch and go there for a minute. Carson bolden: Yeah, no joke. Jim Gardner: Carson, so you're going to run OCRS is the plan. you running? Your face is plastered over all the race saver speed week ⁓ marketing. Are you running that? Slim Pushins: So. Carson bolden: Yes, I will be I Don't know what well so we speaking about the dyno this morning. We went and dynoed we put a we got an Allard motor That was kind of most the parts just given to us So we could go run it but we went and dynoed this morning at Allard So we and it's in our triple X car. We took the 410 out Since we're gonna have to send it back here soon up to Montana We took it out, went and dynoed it, so it made really good power. So I don't know what we're going to do yet. We're probably going to run that this weekend and see if we, because we need to get, we need to get things figured out for the 5,000 win at Canada, which is next weekend. So just. Jim Gardner: Mr. Lee get you tuned up down there at Allards. Carson bolden: Yeah, yeah, he did. It was early this morning, so I ended up going to school. Slim Pushins: Early normal people early or early for you? Carson bolden: uh like got up at 7 30 loaded it and Jim Gardner: ⁓ no. How are you still awake? Corby Scherb: Carson Early. Carson bolden: Hey, I get up at 5.30 every morning to go to school. I've progressed my 7.45. Slim Pushins: What time did school start? when you get up and run a mile and then head to school or what? Carson bolden: I get up and hit a workout every single morning. Corby Scherb: See that Kerbo? It's mental. It's mental. Slim Pushins: Yeah. What I do is mental. It's just not working out Carson bolden: ⁓ Slim Pushins: ⁓ I'm looking at my notes here. We talked about some veterans and racing with veterans. Do you have any stories about, I know one, ⁓ that I'll bring up if, if you don't bring it up. Do you have any stories about veterans, ⁓ teaching you lessons or, you know, learning the hard way on the track? Carson bolden: ⁓ At Abilene, I made a mistake. Well, I guess I kind of didn't make a mistake, but me and Ramy were running one, two, and I was like tracking them down. Like we were rolling and I ended up passing, throwing a slider on him and it was good Abilene track, like slick and moisture at the top in one and two. And then I just really slick and technical in three and four. And I ended up throwing a slider on him one and two and the caution came out coming down the back straight away. And I knew I shouldn't have done it, but I went and ran the exact line I was doing in three and four right after that. So he just knew exactly what I was doing. So after that restart, it's just like, there's nothing I could do after that. Like I'm, running like on the very bottom, like on exit, just catching like a little rut and going forward. But, ⁓ I should not have, ⁓ we're not in there run it after caution came out. Corby Scherb: Don't show your cards until you have to. Carson bolden: Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what his words were. And he ended up winning that 9 hour and second. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: So the, the, the instance that I was talking about, ⁓ think you were in Volusia racing with the big dogs. And where were you when you got into, ⁓ under caution, you and you and Sam Haferteam? Carson bolden: I've never been to Volusia. Oh, that was down in, that was in Texas. Oh, South Texas, no, not that. was a 37, 37 Speedway. Corby Scherb: 37. Slim Pushins: And y'all, was under, it was under caution and he, you did something that he didn't Y'all were under caution and he did something that ⁓ you didn't like and y'all ended up talking to him after the race. Carson bolden: I-37 Jim Gardner: Wrong side of the golf, Kerbo. Carson bolden: Yeah, under caution, we just had a late race restart. I was 360 and he was running against 410. So I'm like, try to get every inch I can. I was running about fourth, probably. He was right behind me on a restart. We ran a lap and then he got by me and wanted to, and the caution came out coming out of two. So like, I just pulled like right beside him because I'm not going to give up that spot. I know it's mine because he did not, he passed me for literally probably half a corner. And then going literally. I just sit in there like I'm way, I'm not close to him rubbing up against him and I'm like probably a car linked away from him and he just really just turns down the racetrack, chops my friend in and actually ended up bending that axle. And now I went to talk to him and it was not his fault. I should have been behind him and yeah, just argued with me. I'm just trying to. figure out why you're, like you're a veteran, you're a great race car driver, you're gonna get back by me in the restart. I was making mistakes in one and two and I did not know how to fix them. Not even gonna lie to you. And he's in a 410, I'm in a 360, he's most likely gonna get right back by me in the restart. And you're a veteran race car driver and I'm learning from you, why are we doing that kind of stuff? he just denied it and it was my fault and I shouldn't have been beside him. So it kinda, and then my dad went and talked to him and. made me stay at the trailer, so I don't know how that went, that, it went. I'll just go with that. He ended up coming back. Yeah, he actually told me one thing. He told me, as soon as he walked up and started talking to Sam, every single one of his crew members walked in the trailer and kind of started doing stuff in the trailer when that happened. But no, that's all I know from when he went to talk to him. Slim Pushins: Ha ha. Ha Well, so evidently he didn't like you fighting for the spot under caution. Carson bolden: I guess not. I guess not. That's what we're going to go with. Slim Pushins: Is that a thing, Cormie? Corby Scherb: ⁓ Not with me ⁓ Not really No, I mean if you think that it's your spot you can sit next to me I'm not gonna do anything stupid but ⁓ I mean Carson knows it too like I don't really like to play the mess around game on starts and stuff like that like I'll check your speed but No Especially in a situation like that. I am one of the drivers that knows where I'm supposed to be I'm not gonna be stupid and try to gain a spot Slim Pushins: Jim's his head. Corby Scherb: of technicality. They're gonna read you the lineup anyway, so just sit there be still Slim Pushins: Jim. Jim Gardner: I'm in both ways. Ghost bit. Yeah, so like. Slim Pushins: I mean, is it like an unspoken thing? Like not swinging at the first pitch after a home run was hit or what? Jim Gardner: No, I, I'm trying to, I don't like to be like a, you know, a pain for the scores. Like go up in the store scoring tower and watch one heat race and you won't bitch about scoring and for the rest of your life. Right? Like scoring a race is the worst thing possible. And so don't need to make their jobs harder on anybody. ⁓ you know, but Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: You know, guys like Sam who are racing for a living, you know, and we've talked about on here, you know, for an hour about how tough the fields are and how, you know, ⁓ how deep everything is and to, you know, need to pass a guy for the second time. ⁓ there I'm back. Slim Pushins: Did we lose him? Carson bolden: He's frozen. Oh. Oh. Corby Scherb: He just looked... There he is. Slim Pushins: Alright. Jim Gardner: Sorry. Yeah. ⁓ you know, if the fields are really tough and tight and it's hard to pass and you know, you're running third and feel like you got a shot to win. You don't want to have to make that pass for third again. You know, it's worth a shot. ⁓ I used to tell Corby all the time, like, what's the penalty for jumping a restart? And he could never tell me, you know, if there's no penalty for jumping a restart, why don't we do it more? Slim Pushins: A warning. Corby Scherb: No, there's... No. Yeah. Jim Gardner: You know, ⁓ and, and try to get it on, ⁓ you know, and gain advantage. The sport is tough. You need to scrap and claw for everything you can get, you know, and I don't want people to be passive and just be like, ⁓ yeah, maybe he deserves a spot, you know, because scoring a race is not a perfect science. I can promise you that even with transponders, it is, ⁓ it's tough. So. I'm probably more passive as a driver than I am as a crew guy. Like if I'm working on the 32 car and you're not battling under caution for a spot, I'm probably mumbling obscenities. But if it's my car and I'm just out there having fun, you know, in 13th place fighting for my life, I'm probably just going to be like, know, whatever. I don't care. I just don't want to crash. Corby Scherb: It's cool, man. I feel like I know Carson shows up He's one of the drivers around here locally that shows up. ⁓ That's your plan. That's your intentions to win that race That's why you showed up, you know There's times like you're you're saying that you had that conversation with your dad then I only had a third-place car and that was the best that I could do And then there's times that I've been in a car and like you were there for it You know like 105 like I knew that I was the best car on the racetrack for sure and that's that's what I Carson bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: That's why I unloaded every time I ever did because I wanted that feeling. I wanted to know that there was no one who had anything for me. Though more often than not, a lot of people had a lot more than what I had that night. Carson bolden: Yeah, you tell me about the night you won at 105 I uh, I don't know what happened in the heat race. I got caught up in some crap. I don't know but uh, I um, I was talking to you after the races and I was like I think I was up to like third I won like 15th to third and then The lap car got me and I kind of got hung in the fence I was a Corby Scherb: Yep. Yep. Carson bolden: I was talking to you about it and I was like, dude, I was coming, was fast. And I might not have had something for you. I might've had, I know I had something for second place, but it's just, yeah. 105 is, it was racy that night too. So that's what I'm like. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: It's a cool place. Corby Scherb: I think that it would have been a really good race between me, you, and Christopher Townsend. Christopher didn't get caught up with the lapper. ⁓ I think that ⁓ we were definitely the fastest guys there. ⁓ But just like you, there was a lapper incident that happened in front of you. had nowhere to go. And that's the beauty and glory of sprint car racing is just how fast everything turns back the other way. Carson bolden: Yeah, that's not the time before that where I was about to win the thing. It's just another deal where I, ⁓ we have a lapper running a line for the 15 laps that I'm gaining on him before. And then the one lap I'm on his back bumper going in and wanted to, as we just took the white flag, I, ⁓ I go to go where he's not. And he just so happens to go where I am and where I went. ⁓ the time. that I'd go to pass him and I got blown by on the outside right in second. I'd led 24 of 25 laps. Yeah, that one was tough. Corby Scherb: That's hurt. Yeah. Slim Pushins: I got a couple more questions before we wrap this up. We know it's a school night. we got to get your, you got to get your sleep before your mile run and workout at five 30 in the morning. What about, ⁓ do you have any superstitions? Carson bolden: Yes, actually I have a lot. ⁓ but on the way to every race around the DFW area, specifically, we stop at the QT and Terrell. We get a white Gatorade and a purple Gatorade for me, those two exact ones. And I'll get, and I'll get probably three big Gatorades, a white one, a purple one and a blue one or a red one. Jim Gardner: God, Corby's rubbed off on you. Carson bolden: Blue or red is kind of switched. And then I have. Corby Scherb: I used to bring him an electrolyte drink every race. Yep. Carson bolden: to me. No, it was a Berry Blast purple, light purple. They don't they don't make those no more. And then my hat superstition. This hat I've had for two years is a Kyle Larson hat. It was originally black. ⁓ And I have a Logan shoe heart hat that I got the beginning of this year and I was going to try something new and it has not worked. So we're back to the original Kyle. We're back to the Kyle Larson hat for the rest of the year. Corby Scherb: Yes, sir. Yep. I know. Slim Pushins: Back to our call, Archie Matt. Carson bolden: ⁓ but no, like if I go, I used to do this a lot. I've kind of backed off of it since I don't win very much, but if I used to win, ⁓ win a micro race, I wear the exact same outfit to the next race. ⁓ I know I had a shirt that I wore all the time because I kept having very good finish with it. It was an SBS shirt. It just said Corby Scherb: 100%. Carson bolden: Tiny SBS and it said Rippin' and Gripin' on the back and I have no clue where that shirt sat now. that little ⁓ time of my shirt glory was over. Slim Pushins: Your mother's probably got it in a box. She's gonna make a quilt out of it, out of her baby boy's, baby boy's shirts. Carson bolden: No, but yeah, I have the Gatorade and the hat that I do ⁓ every pretty much every weekend But no, think I've worn those shoe hard hat every every race I think this weekend or the weekend after that we're gonna switch over to the the big Kyle Larson hat See how it goes Yeah, all faithful Slim Pushins: changed it up to the tried and true Kyle Larson hat. Corby Scherb: old trustee. ⁓ yeah. Slim Pushins: All right, well the last question I've got. Do you believe that we landed on the moon? Corby Scherb: He's still in school. You can't ask him this question. Carson bolden: Batchlist. Slim Pushins: Sure I can. Jim Gardner: He doesn't have time to sit and watch TikTok reels of conspiracy theories all day. He's in class learning real stuff. Slim Pushins: Yeah he does. He's at the dyno. Carson bolden: Actually, they take our phones during school now, that sucks. ⁓ Do we land on the moon? ⁓ No. Jim Gardner: Thank Slim Pushins: Do you think that we landed on the moon when they say that we landed on the moon? Carson bolden: What do you think they did before that? Slim Pushins: No, after... That's right, that's a good point. Jim Gardner: did, we land on the moon on July 20th, 1969. Carson bolden: What? No! Jim Gardner: Apollo 11. Carson bolden: Now Neil Armstrong did not step foot on the moon. Corby Scherb: Bingo. Jim Gardner: That's disappointing. Slim Pushins: Jim, Jim with every guest that we have on. Corby Scherb: That's disappointing. Carson bolden: Okay, okay, listen, listen, hold on. with all the technology today, how in the world are we not able to come up with some kind of way? We just went around the moon with Artem's two or something like that. No, I think we went around the moon this time just because of all the technology and stuff that we have. And I feel like we should be able to land on the moon because there's no way you just lose some kind of. Slim Pushins: Well, they say that we went around the moon. Corby. Carson bolden: information to be able to land on the moon and it's been it's been it's been how long 55 years or something like that i don't Corby Scherb: I'll- I'll- I'll- Slim Pushins: Jim? Corby Scherb: I'll prove it to you that we didn't even go up there. Here we go. There's 14,000 satellites in space right now. Not one of them caught a single picture of that dude flying by or coming back. Not one. We can pick up live Google images of you sitting in your house right now. We didn't catch that. No, what is his name? James Gardner. lives in Denison, Texas. Slim Pushins: What about Jim sitting in his garage? Jim Gardner: That's right. Saying it of my own free will. Corby Scherb: No way. Jim Gardner: July 20th, 1969, Neil Armstrong walked on the moon. Empathically. Carson bolden: No, no, no, that did not happen. That did not happen. Slim Pushins: Well. Corby Scherb: Like Jeb, Jeb shattered everything whenever he said when he talked about the stitching on their clothing back then Slim Pushins: Jim, with every guest that we have on. Carson bolden: What what what have everybody else what has everybody else said when you've asked him? Corby Scherb: No one has believed it yet. Jim is the only one. Slim Pushins: ⁓ everybody believes, everybody that we've asked the question does not believe that we landed on the moon. Jim Gardner: Everybody else is stupid. Carson bolden: And they're all right. I'm sorry, Jim. Corby Scherb: Will you still set up my car for me, Jim? I love you. Jim Gardner: that is just frustrating as hell. Youth of America. I'm telling you, the astronauts of the Apollo missions were bigger badasses than the best sprint car drivers in the history of the sport. Carson bolden: There's no way that with all the technology we have. Slim Pushins: Nobody's questioning that. Corby Scherb: You can't, here we go, this dude's got a Kyle Larson hat right there and you're telling me he's better than Kyle Larson? You better cut it out. Jim Gardner: I'm telling you he's a bigger badass than he is. He's strapped definitely better than him. Carson bolden: and this guy. Corby Scherb: See, David Grebel. Slim Pushins: That's a cool hat. Carson bolden: ⁓ I like that hat. What else do I got? Hold on. I need to see this. need to see this. Look it. I have my hat collection of my retired hats. Retired. My favorite retired hat of all time. Right here. Jim Gardner: ⁓ boy. Slim Pushins: Jeez, we're retired? Corby Scherb: We might have to unretire a couple of those right now. Jim Gardner: That's Kerbo show him your You might you might be second to ⁓ Slim Pushins: Should I have got boxes? Carson bolden: Right here. Corby Scherb: I like that one. Like that one. Slim Pushins: I bet I have 500 hats. That's cool, Ayti. You ain't gonna get lost in the woods. Carson bolden: that I wore that hat. I got that hat when I was seven years old. Slim Pushins: That was what, three or four years ago? Carson bolden: I double... ⁓ Yeah, close to it. I was in 2017. Got it at the Devils Bowl ⁓ board of outlaw race from Jason Johnson. Corby Scherb: Old Devil's Bowl. That was your dad's place. Carson bolden: It was. Jim Gardner: Did you just say 2017? You're so, God. Jeez. Slim Pushins: Okay, 2017 was my 20 year high school reunion. Carson bolden: This one too. have a quarry day. I got Ruko. Jim Gardner: We need some Carson Bolden hats. You got any of those? Carson bolden: I got one sitting right here for you. Yeah, here you go. I only made like seven of these, but... Slim Pushins: Let's see it. Corby Scherb: I those. I got a bold and shirt. Jim Gardner: Nice. Carson bolden: That's the last one I have. I don't ever see y'all wearing them, why not? Slim Pushins: I got a bold shirt. Jim Gardner: That's not true at all. I was wearing mine at Chili Bowl. Yeah, that's right. Slim Pushins: You Carson bolden: No, not at you. I said them too. I seen you. You were wearing it at the World Outlaw Race. Corby Scherb: There's a difference. There's a big difference. We don't have enough time in this podcast to talk about this There's a big difference and the way that I was raised Jimmy says that in car racing you can't wear your own stuff. Well how I was raised on motorcycles you only wear your own stuff So if I can't support myself, then I'm not going to support anyone else Carson bolden: I was raised. Jim Gardner: support your Carson bolden: I was raised, don't wear your, you can't wear your own stuff also. Jim Gardner: Thank you. Corby Scherb: you're only supposed to wear your own stuff. Slim Pushins: Jim only allows me to wear Pushin' the Cushion podcast stuff. I do not own any Slim Pushin' swag. I don't even know if we've sold any Slim Pushin' swag. Carson bolden: What about you Kerbo? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson bolden: Hold on, two seconds, two seconds. Jim Gardner: ⁓ Somebody bought a Chad Wilson one the other day. Carson bolden: Hold on, two seconds. Slim Pushins: Really? Carson bolden: I gotta find this. Jim Gardner: Yeah, a Chad Wilson X Slim Pushins ⁓ crossover. Corby Scherb: We still have that white one Carson Slim Pushins: There it is. There it is. That's the logo we're going to get sued for. Corby Scherb: Yep, there it is. Slim Pushins: There it is. Carson bolden: I'll go find it real quick to show you that I am a supporter of some questions. Jim Gardner: Ugh. Slim Pushins: Jim, when Jim was coming up with that artwork, he sent us about five different renditions of Slim on that shirt. And every time he sent one, Slim got fatter and the four-wheeler got smaller. Carson bolden: Nice job. that. Slim Pushins: I'm not sure where that would fit in in the scale of one to like five It was subliminal message I Told y'all Jim can be an asshole mostly at the track, but not exclusively at the track Jim Gardner: you Yeah. Carson bolden: Mmm. Slim Pushins: Jim, have we sold any Push in the Cushion t-shirts on stompandsteer.com? Jim Gardner: No, not a one. Are they on there? Slim Pushins: Korm, if you're talking, your mic's off. Jim Gardner: They might not be on there yet. I've been busy. Slim Pushins: Corby's got his mic flipped up and nobody can hear him. He's on the phone. Corby Scherb: No, Brooklyn just called me for the second time. This is an hour and a half now. Brooklyn just called me for the second time and now she's mad because we're on the podcast with Carson and she's not here. Jim Gardner: Yeah, it's time to go. It's a school night. Yeah, we gotta go. Yeah, see. Carson bolden: I'm getting on iRacing right after this, it's the whatever. Slim Pushins: Well. Corby Scherb: See? I'll tell her that. Slim Pushins: ⁓ it's, it's 8 30. It's time to start winding it down for the night, Carson bolden: I'm gonna go ahead and fire it up right now. Corby Scherb: I might jump on there with you later. Jim Gardner: Alright. Slim Pushins: OK, we're completely off the rails. Jim, you're next. Jim, you going to irace with him? Carson bolden: Come on, I'm waiting on you. Corby Scherb: I know, it's been a minute. Jim Gardner: Now I don't have the internet ⁓ capabilities to run it. Carson bolden: Why not? Corby Scherb: We have me and Carson have thrown some absolute bombs from like across the racetrack at each other. Carson bolden: ⁓ 360- ⁓ Breckton! ⁓ I gotta go ahead and register for it. I'm going with Corby Scherb: See? See? Slim Pushins: Brexit's probably live, doesn't he? Doesn't he like ⁓ TikTok live? Jim Gardner: Yeah. Carson bolden: Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does do it sometimes. He has a 360 at I-55 right now. Corby Scherb: I need to get in one with Brecht and mess with him. Slim Pushins: All right, Jim's about to... Jim's about to blow a gasket. We got to get out of here. Carson bolden: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Alright Carson, thanks dude for coming on man, super informational like I said. Yeah man, you're super young kid and you got a lot of talent, you got somewhere to go man, just keep chasing. Jim Gardner: Good luck this weekend, man. Carson bolden: Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Slim Pushins: Do we? We wish you all the luck. We love watching you race, watching you grow up. You're like all of our little brothers, man. You're a good dude. And a lot faster, so much faster than Corby. Carson bolden: I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, I appreciate it. hope this uh... Corby Scherb: way faster than me. Carson bolden: I hope this question to catch and curse does not apply for me because it can't get much worse. Corby Scherb: No man, you're good, you got a win in your future, you got one coming. Slim Pushins: Well. Jim Gardner: Yeah, we're gonna feel your dad's wrath in two weeks, probably. Slim Pushins: ⁓ I'll take his dad. I don't want to take his mom. Carson bolden: That gives me a yeah Jim Gardner: I see your dad walking through the pits. I'm gonna... Slim Pushins: Alright brother, thanks for joining us man. Good luck. See y'all later. Carson bolden: Yeah, you need to... Alright. I appreciate y'all having me on. Appreciate it. Appreciate y'all. Thank you. See ya. Jim Gardner: Good luck this weekend, Thanks.