Latest / INSPIRE STORY / #0148 _STORY INSPIRE: Decisions that transforman, Ehsan Ahmad
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- 0:04Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Hey, fella.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Hey. What's going on, brother?
- 0:14Speaker 2: Good to be back, Joe.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Good to see you, as always. Yeah.
- 0:18Speaker 2: This time I have something to actually promote.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Well, you're always promoting. I mean, any kind of appearance
- 0:24is sort of a promotion.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Right.
- 0:26Speaker 1: You're promoting the audience gets to see you. Right.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Right. Right.
- 0:31Speaker 3: It was so funny because it got me thinking. So
- 0:33I started watching Patrice's Opie and Anthony appearances because there's
- 0:37a list of.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Them on Spotify. And what was so funny to me
- 0:41was like.
- 0:43Speaker 3: That, you know, how they have these like these group
- 0:45of like mentally disabled people that they kind of fuck with.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Obi and Anthony?
- 0:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 0:49Speaker 1: It was rough.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Like a carousel. It's like kind of mean.
- 0:52Speaker 1: It's kind of horrible. Yeah.
- 0:53Speaker 2: It's kind of like, ooh, I'm kind of glad we're
- 0:55past that. But what made me laugh is every single
- 0:59one of them at the end of the thing was like,
- 1:00and here's my website. I had a website. And I
- 1:04was like, damn, I've been on the Joe Rogan Experience
- 1:06twice and I don't even have a website.
- 1:08Speaker 1: You didn't have a website?
- 1:09Speaker 2: I didn't have a website. This is the first time
- 1:11I had a website. Wow.
- 1:12Speaker 1: What did you do? Did you make it yourself? No.
- 1:15Speaker 3: I realized like, oh, I got to pay people to
- 1:17do stuff like that. That's out of my wheelhouse of
- 1:19like things I can do. Ironically, I'm terrible with technology
- 1:22for a guy who looks like me.
- 1:24Speaker 1: There's some things you could do like Squarespace has a
- 1:28great setup. It's pretty easy to do.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's just pure.
- 1:32Speaker 3: It's like pure laziness on my end for sure and
- 1:35a little bit like I spend so much time on
- 1:38my brain space and this is dedicated to my jokes.
- 1:40I kind of shut out everything else.
- 1:43Speaker 1: It's a fun time to be alive. One of the
- 1:45things that's really exciting about The Mothership is for someone
- 1:49like me who's been doing comedy for so long, it's
- 1:51really exciting to watch people's careers launch. See guys like
- 1:56Cam Patterson go from getting a spot on Kill Tony
- 2:00to being a regular on Kill Tony to being on
- 2:02fucking Saturday Night Live.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Boom. It's crazy.
- 2:05Speaker 3: Some of them, like Christina Mariani now just sells out
- 2:08rooms at the comedy store all the time.
- 2:10Speaker 1: She's killing it.
- 2:11Speaker 2: And then you have Peyton Ruddy and Dylan Carlino.
- 2:13Speaker 3: These are just guys who were just at the club
- 2:15and just made a way social media-wise.
- 2:18Speaker 1: And you get to see people get just tighter and better,
- 2:21like McCusker's new set, like what he did last night.
- 2:25Really fucking good, man. Super solid. Really fun. It's just like,
- 2:30we got a good thing, man. It's a good thing.
- 2:33Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a fun place to be around. Everyone
- 2:35just working jokes. That's what it is, really.
- 2:39Speaker 2: It's so funny.
- 2:40Speaker 3: There is such this narrative outside of the ship about
- 2:43what Austin comedy is.
- 2:44Speaker 2: And it's really just a bunch of people just doing jokes.
- 2:47Speaker 1: The narrative is only with jealous people. It's not based
- 2:50on any reality. It's not based on people go there
- 2:52and hang out.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Well, it's always these people who love to talk about Austin,
- 2:56but they don't talk to anyone in Austin.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:58Speaker 2: It's like there's a bunch of comics willing to hang
- 2:59out and talk to you.
- 3:00Speaker 1: I think I've told you this before, but I have
- 3:02a friend of mine who's, you know, somewhat of a philosopher,
- 3:04an online friend. I don't even know what he looks like.
- 3:06We've been going back and forth for years. But he
- 3:08warned me about this a long time ago. He said,
- 3:11you've created a walled garden. And he goes, and you've
- 3:14got all these friends and you're all supporting each other
- 3:16and you're all having fun. But there's a lot of
- 3:18people that feel on the outside and they feel like
- 3:20left out of it. And so they're like, fuck those people.
- 3:23That party sucks. You know, it's kind of along those lines. And,
- 3:27you know, if you could find some connections to other
- 3:30negative things, you know, like me and Tony, we have
- 3:33this connection to Trump and so does Shane. And, you know,
- 3:36there's there's all sorts of that. Oh, fucking you got
- 3:38to be a right winger to be. And then the
- 3:40narrative comes up. Oh, you got to tell jokes about
- 3:43fucking trans people. You have to like it.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:46Speaker 1: You can't be a liberal. You can't be this. You
- 3:48can't be like.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Well, that the whole the whole like you have to
- 3:52be a right winger.
- 3:52Speaker 3: That's like to me, that's like massive projection because there
- 3:54are these spaces where like if you're a right winger
- 3:58in comedy, like there's like leftist spaces that you just
- 4:00can't be in.
- 4:01Speaker 1: For sure. You'll get pushed out.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Right.
- 4:03Speaker 1: You'll get you'll get treated badly. More importantly, whereas at
- 4:07the mothership, like that fucking green room, like 80 percent
- 4:10of the time, it's mostly gay. like progressive people.
- 4:14Speaker 3: Yeah oh and then left-wing people a lot of people
- 4:16most of the people who work there are mostly left-wing
- 4:18yeah yeah it's a place where it's a place where
- 4:20but because right-wing people i guess are allowed to be
- 4:23here or like also allowed to be here it's it's
- 4:25all of a sudden this right wing nazi haven well.
- 4:28Speaker 1: It's also it's like what does that even mean right
- 4:30like what is right wing like because you don't think
- 4:34that that candidate and what they were doing by like
- 4:38storming the fucking gates with illegal immigrants. You don't think
- 4:40that was a good idea? You don't think, like, rampant spending,
- 4:43completely unchecked with no documentation, like what's going on in California?
- 4:47You don't think that's a bad thing?
- 4:49Speaker 2: What Tim Walz is doing.
- 4:53Speaker 1: There's so much of it, man. But then it's also like, yeah,
- 4:56what ICE is doing, like, fucking shooting that lady seems
- 4:59kind of crazy. You know, like, grabbing people that happen
- 5:02to be American citizens and fucking dragging them out onto
- 5:04the snow and asking them for their papers. That seems...
- 5:07Kind of fucking crazy too.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems insane.
- 5:09Speaker 1: But it's also like they have a crazy job. Like
- 5:13imagine you're an ICE agent. Just imagine what happened. Okay.
- 5:18So we tried– we used our sponsor Perplexity the other
- 5:22day and tried to figure out through AI what the
- 5:26exact number is. But when you deep dive, you realize
- 5:28they don't know the number. They really have like an
- 5:31estimate of interactions with illegal immigrants. And it's somewhere around
- 5:3511 million. for four years, which is fucking wild. That's
- 5:4110 Austins.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Okay.
- 5:45Speaker 1: At least of illegal immigrants were allowed to get in
- 5:49this country, aided to get in this country, and then
- 5:51moved to states. They moved them. They flew them out
- 5:55to certain swing states. This is all Mike Benz has
- 5:58documented all this stuff.
- 6:00Speaker 2: There's all.
- 6:01Speaker 1: You can see they gave him EBT cards. So imagine...
- 6:05You can imagine two things. One, imagine you're one of
- 6:07those people. You're like, dude, they're asking me to come.
- 6:09Speaker 2: This is awesome.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Now I'm in America. I'm going to get a good job.
- 6:11I'm going to be able to support my family. And
- 6:13then all of a sudden you have these fucking dudes
- 6:14in bulletproof vests looking for you on the streets.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 6:19Speaker 1: I thought you said it was okay. I thought the
- 6:21Red Cross gave me a map.
- 6:24Speaker 2: You gave me a.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Fucking cell phone and now you're hunting me.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Right. Now you're just like caught in the crossfire.
- 6:29Speaker 1: But now imagine the ICE agents.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Okay.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Okay. This is your job. Your job is to go
- 6:34out and find these people. And one of the things
- 6:36you don't get about this, it's like because there was
- 6:39like a recent clip of mine that got like highlighted
- 6:42where I was criticizing ICE. One of the things that
- 6:45you don't think about when you're into this is just
- 6:50like regular police interactions. The ones that you see online
- 6:55are the horrible ones. So you think all cops are horrible.
- 7:00What you miss is the millions of interactions that people
- 7:03have with cops. Like, how you doing today, sir?
- 7:05Speaker 2: Good, sir.
- 7:06Speaker 1: How you doing? Can I see your paperwork? Sure. Here
- 7:08it is. You in a hurry? I fucked up. I'm
- 7:12late for work. All right, man. Just slow down. go
- 7:16like all right thanks brother everything's nice that happens too
- 7:20like there's nice interactions with cops there's people that save
- 7:23people from bad guys it happens all the time there's
- 7:26people that are thankful that they called the police and
- 7:28they stopped the burglar who was breaking into their fucking
- 7:31mom's house or whatever it is right there's so many
- 7:34more of those but you're not seeing those videos and
- 7:36so with the ice thing what you're only seeing and
- 7:39you're only hearing about American citizens that have been arrested,
- 7:43the lady that got shot. You're hearing about all these negative.
- 7:46What you're not hearing about is the number of violent
- 7:50criminals that they've caught. And it's a lot. It's in
- 7:53the thousands. It's not like thousands of American citizens have
- 7:58been shipped out to other countries. That's no, it's like
- 8:02net positive. If you look at it that way, like
- 8:06the see if you can find out how many, because
- 8:09I know There's probably going to be a bunch of
- 8:11various sources that are not totally accurate. But find out, like,
- 8:15what are the number of violent criminals they've caught since
- 8:18they started doing this?
- 8:20Speaker 3: Well, also the– there is a question on– this is
- 8:24how– because I know this is how they recruit some
- 8:27ice agents. It's just like there are ads on local
- 8:29TV just offering like a signing bonus. During the UFC,
- 8:33there's an ice ad. Yeah, and it's like these are
- 8:35just like also regular people. How much training are they
- 8:38really getting?
- 8:39Speaker 2: Right.
- 8:39Speaker 3: Because when you watch the shooting video, you're like, why
- 8:41is the guy shooting also recording with his phone? Like
- 8:45there's no way that's like anything you're trained to do.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Maybe for his own safety. Like, just to make sure
- 8:50that you could see this lady's unhinged. Is he not
- 8:53wearing a body camera? He's not a cop, right? Yeah.
- 8:55Because I bet he's not wearing a body camera.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:57Speaker 1: So I bet that's why. Mm-hmm. I bet that's why
- 9:00he filmed it. And also, that same guy, it turns out,
- 9:02was dragged by a car just recently. So, like, he
- 9:07almost lost his life. Or someone did try to run
- 9:10him over. He's hanging onto a car for dear life.
- 9:12I think he got dragged. 300 feet.
- 9:14Speaker 2: He got dragged 300 feet.
- 9:15Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 9:15Speaker 1: 300 feet, that's a long way to get dragged. Yeah. Right?
- 9:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:20Speaker 1: 100%. That's a full football field. There's a full possibility
- 9:23that you may die. There's no single public record number
- 9:26of violent criminals captured by ICE raids just over the
- 9:28last few months, and available data suggests those cases are
- 9:31a relatively small share of recent ICE arrests and detentions.
- 9:35One analysis, ICE internal data, said that only 5% to
- 9:388% of the people booked into ICE detention in late
- 9:412025 and early fiscal year 2026. had violent or serious
- 9:44property crime convictions. But even if it's 8%, they've gotten
- 9:48rid of a half a million people already, and then 1.6
- 9:52million voluntarily deported. So in a half a million people,
- 9:568% is a lot. That's a lot of violence. criminals.
- 10:01So this is weirdly phrased. As of January 22, I
- 10:04would say 8% is a lot. Like if you have
- 10:06cancer in 8% of your body, I would say you're fucked.
- 10:09You know what I'm saying? Like if you're saying, oh,
- 10:11it's only been 8% that are violent criminals. That's a
- 10:14lot of people.
- 10:15Speaker 3: But now the question is, are these 8%... And then
- 10:20the nonviolent people sent to the same place.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good question.
- 10:24Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 10:25Speaker 3: Because, like, you do want the violent criminals out, but
- 10:27then I don't want the nonviolent criminals to be sent
- 10:30or nonviolent people who are here to be sent to
- 10:33a prison.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Exactly. It says ICE no longer voluntarily publishes detailed case-level
- 10:40arrest breakdowns by offense type and independent project's So imagine
- 10:44if you're a dude from Mexico that just walked up
- 10:47here because you wanted a better job and then they
- 10:49shove you in a prison.
- 10:50Speaker 2: And now, yeah, in some prison in El Salvador.
- 10:52Speaker 1: And you never did anything bad your whole life. And
- 10:54now you're in some– well, the El Salvador thing, are
- 10:56they still doing that?
- 10:57Speaker 2: I don't– that I don't know.
- 10:59Speaker 1: That was a bad– that's bad optics.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there's a lot of– optics with ICE
- 11:06has been terrible.
- 11:07Speaker 1: It says recent enforcement has involved thousands of arrests nationwide.
- 11:11but available analysis consistently indicate that only a small minority
- 11:15of those... Is that in italics?
- 11:17Speaker 4: No.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Is it not? Is it? Maybe. Weird, right? Yeah. It
- 11:21looks a little funky.
- 11:23Speaker 2: No.
- 11:23Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's just that's perplexity showing its bias.
- 11:29Small minority of those, that's a tone, of those in
- 11:32ICE detention arrested by ICE in late 2025 and early
- 11:352026 have violent criminal convictions. Most have no convictions... But
- 11:40when they say small minority, they indicated previously that that's 8%.
- 11:44That still means a lot of human beings.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 11:48Speaker 1: That's a lot of violent human beings. Like if you
- 11:52could sign a piece of paper that said that we're
- 11:57going to allow a bunch of people into this country,
- 11:59most of them have no violent convictions, but about 8%
- 12:02of them are monsters, evil, sociopathic murderers, drug dealers. Eight
- 12:08percent is a giant ass fucking number.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Right.
- 12:12Speaker 1: That's a giant ass number.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Right.
- 12:14Speaker 1: The real problem is that they have to do this.
- 12:16This is a real problem because the Democrats did what
- 12:19they did. They did a crazy thing. They opened the
- 12:22border up and told people the border was open and
- 12:26then let people– and then when people tried to stop
- 12:29them from doing it, they used court orders. Like what
- 12:32was that thing they did down in Texas at the border?
- 12:34Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, because Abbott tried to put up something, some
- 12:37like wall or something like that.
- 12:38Speaker 1: They said you can't stop this. Yeah. Which is, wait
- 12:42a minute, we can't stop people from breaking the law?
- 12:45What are you saying? There's a method to stop this
- 12:47and you don't want it stopped? Because the dirty secret
- 12:51is the census doesn't count citizens. It counts everybody. It
- 12:56even counts illegals. So if you live in a community
- 12:59that's half illegal aliens, you get way more congressional seats
- 13:03from that district than if you are in a community
- 13:07where all those people don't count. They said that I
- 13:09think they said that California, if the census did– see
- 13:13if we can find out what the number is. But
- 13:15if the census did not count illegal immigrants in California,
- 13:18I think they would lose a shocking number of seats.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Right.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Damn. Which is kind of crazy.
- 13:24Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 13:25Speaker 1: You're rigging politics by moving humans into place.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Well, you got to do something. It's a very– something
- 13:34that no one really talks about a lot is like
- 13:35the Democrats– Every single minority group shifted right in 2024.
- 13:41Speaker 2: Right. Every single one.
- 13:43Speaker 3: And no one really is like actually trying to figure
- 13:46out why that's happening. They're like, well, if we just
- 13:48import more people, we can overcome that deficit.
- 13:51Speaker 1: But they could.
- 13:52Speaker 2: They could.
- 13:53Speaker 1: If it was successful, they could overwhelm the political process.
- 13:56They could make it just like it's California forever where
- 13:59you get half the people are like massively disgruntled and
- 14:02so confused about the politics. But they're stuck there. And
- 14:05that would be the whole country. It would essentially be
- 14:07that kind of a thing. And then they do what
- 14:09they do in England and what they do in Canada,
- 14:11which is they slowly start clamping down on your rights. Right.
- 14:14And England starts arresting people for social media posts.
- 14:17Speaker 3: Well, you know, hopefully that the free speech stuff is
- 14:22so ingrained in who we are as a people. Because England,
- 14:25like at the end of the day, it's not like
- 14:27that country was built on that principle.
- 14:29Speaker 1: This says that they would only lose two House seats.
- 14:33It says California would lose– I called it Canada. It
- 14:37was like Freudian. Would lose an order of one to
- 14:40two house seats if people in the state without legal
- 14:44status were not counted in the census used for appointment
- 14:47based on recent expert simulations.
- 14:51Speaker 2: All right.
- 14:52Speaker 1: What's this? Here's the thing.
- 14:54Speaker 5: What?
- 14:55Speaker 1: How many illegals are in California? Let's find that out.
- 14:59Like what is the estimated number? Put that in there, Jamie.
- 15:01What's the estimated number of illegals in California? I don't
- 15:05know where I'd be without this kind of shit.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:07Speaker 1: I'm so hooked on using like perplexity for any question
- 15:10I have all throughout the day. It's like my smart friend.
- 15:13Speaker 2: It's like better Wikipedia because it can really like– you
- 15:16can use it as like.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Way better than Wikipedia because it scans the entire internet.
- 15:20And sometimes it does– catch some bullshit articles in there
- 15:23and says, it might be this. And you're like, wait
- 15:25a minute, what, let me go to that article. That
- 15:27might be bullshit. Cause it's only pulling from the internet, right?
- 15:30Speaker 2: Undocumented 2.8 million in 2007. That's what, yeah, that, that,
- 15:34that would be around two seats, right? Cause there's like
- 15:3730 million in California.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:40Speaker 1: That makes a difference. And then you do the same
- 15:42thing in Seattle. You do the same thing in wherever,
- 15:46you know, places you have massive numbers of undocumented people. Cal, um, uh,
- 15:51Ohio is a big one. This is one of the
- 15:53reasons why they had this thing where– like why are
- 15:56there so many Haitians in Ohio? What do you think?
- 15:59I think they just decided that Ohio is a spot
- 16:01and they all had a group WhatsApp chat. No, probably
- 16:05somebody is moving them there because it's a swing state.
- 16:07Speaker 2: It was funny when– the Somalian thing when Waltz was
- 16:11like this is– white supremacy.
- 16:13Speaker 1: It was crazy.
- 16:14Speaker 2: But it's like, hey, but then who's the most supreme
- 16:17white man in the state? Governor? You, bitch.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Like, that's a crazy Freudian slip.
- 16:24Speaker 1: But it's also like, what a crazy attempt at misdirection.
- 16:28White men commit most of the crimes.
- 16:29Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part, I think I told you, that's part
- 16:31of the reason why I think, like, minority groups are
- 16:33shifting away because it's like, one, I don't think that's something,
- 16:36the whole victimhood mentality, that's not something that minority groups
- 16:39really experience.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Or like, Especially not minority groups that are immigrants that
- 16:45are in the middle of the hustle.
- 16:47Speaker 2: Right.
- 16:48Speaker 1: We got to go to work.
- 16:48Speaker 3: We got to overcome. That's the whole point. Regardless of
- 16:51the hand you're dealt, you got to just play it
- 16:52and overcome. And so that victimhood mentality really kind of
- 16:55pushes people away from the left, I think, in that manner.
- 17:00Speaker 2: And then like, you know, when Biden was like, you know,
- 17:04if you. don't vote for me, you're not black. That's
- 17:09kind of how they view the minority vote. It's a
- 17:11hostage vote. It's like, vote for us or else. No
- 17:14one likes that energy coming towards them. And to lash
- 17:17out and go in a different direction.
- 17:18Speaker 1: Such a wild thing to say.
- 17:20Speaker 2: I mean, unbelievably funny. Unbelievably funny. Man.
- 17:27Speaker 1: I can't believe he fucking said it. And he said
- 17:31it with that fucking crazy pulled back face. And it's like,
- 17:35this is madness. Whatever they did to him to make
- 17:38him try to look younger. Yeah. It just doesn't work, kids.
- 17:42Speaker 2: No.
- 17:42Speaker 1: It doesn't work.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Oh, my God. All that.
- 17:44Speaker 1: We know what you used to look like. You're on
- 17:47TV all the time. And all of a sudden, you
- 17:49have a completely different face. Like, your face is different. Like,
- 17:53all your- Everything's pulled back and it doesn't look like
- 17:55anybody normal that's 80 years old.
- 17:57Speaker 3: No, all plastic surgery ages, you look like an alien
- 18:00when you're old. There's just no way around it. I
- 18:03don't know who lip fillers are for because I don't
- 18:05know any guy who's like, yeah, I like that look.
- 18:08Like that much, but it's crazy how they age.
- 18:11Speaker 1: The facial fillers are crazy too because sometimes those things
- 18:14become a problem and then you got to get them removed.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Well, now they're doing that buckle fat thing where they
- 18:19look like ghouls.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Why would they do that? Why would they take fat
- 18:23out of their face? Fat in your face is what
- 18:25makes you look youthful. What are those ladies going to
- 18:28look like when they hit their 60s? They're going to
- 18:30look like ghosts.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Maybe. Because their face will be all sunken in.
- 18:34Speaker 1: By the time they're 60, I think medicine is going
- 18:37to be at a level where they're going to be
- 18:39able to reverse aging. They're pretty close to being able
- 18:42to do that. They've already done some stuff with mice
- 18:44and they've done some stuff where they're understanding like what
- 18:48genes are causing you to have these problems, what things
- 18:52can be done to mitigate it. And they're treating aging
- 18:56not like an inevitable aspect of life but as like
- 18:59a disease that you get over time.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Right.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Instead of like accepting the fact that your body is
- 19:03going to age at a very specific rate and then
- 19:06when you're 60, it's going to suck. When you're 70,
- 19:07it will suck worse. Instead, it's like what's causing that?
- 19:10Let's reverse what's causing it. And essentially, if you can
- 19:15do that. And I think they can. If they can't
- 19:19do it now, they're going to be able to do it.
- 19:21Speaker 4: Whoa.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Jesus. What happened? Okay, but this is like day one.
- 19:25This lady just had surgery.
- 19:26Speaker 5: I just popped up on my feet a few times.
- 19:28Speaker 1: She's 69, almost 70. Holy shit. That lady does not
- 19:35look even close to 69 or 70. Is that true, though?
- 19:38Speaker 2: Kind of uncanny.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Is that true? Is that Dr. Crazy? He's making it up.
- 19:43Speaker 2: She's like, I'm fucking 40, asshole! It just feels like
- 19:46one of those human dolls.
- 19:48Speaker 1: What did she look like before?
- 19:50Speaker 5: There you go.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Whoa, that's the same lady? Bro, that's crazy. You could
- 19:56pick her up at a bar, and then you're like,
- 19:57why do you smell old?
- 19:59Speaker 2: God, that's crazy.
- 20:01Speaker 1: You get that old people smell?
- 20:02Speaker 2: The mothball smell?
- 20:04Speaker 1: Just spray perfume all over their body. I remember there
- 20:08was this episode of... that show autopsy. Did you ever
- 20:11see that show? There's this guy, Michael Badden, and he's
- 20:15a famous forensic scientist that like examines cases and says,
- 20:20this is actually a murder. And he catches people. And
- 20:23one of them was this guy who was really crazy
- 20:26and his wife died. I don't know if it was
- 20:29his wife or a lady he knew died. I forget
- 20:33the circumstances, but he kept the corpse in his house
- 20:37and had fashioned the some kind of an artificial vagina
- 20:41that he attached to the corpse and then had cases
- 20:46of perfume. And so apparently the bot, he just kept
- 20:50fucking it.
- 20:51Speaker 2: Is this like an older guy, an older story?
- 20:52Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 20:53Speaker 3: It's like some Cuban doctor and it was like some
- 20:54girl he fell in love with.
- 20:55Speaker 2: And then she died.
- 20:56Speaker 4: Yes.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 20:57Speaker 2: Right.
- 20:57Speaker 1: But it wasn't his wife, right?
- 20:59Speaker 2: No, it was like, it was like in a plaster
- 21:01case thing. And it was a, yeah.
- 21:03Speaker 1: And then it had a mask on it. So it
- 21:06was like a corpse that was like years old with
- 21:09a mask on it and an artificial vagina and cases
- 21:13and cases of perfume. So this guy's just fucking covering
- 21:18this thing, perfuming, getting his fuck on.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to find the picture of it.
- 21:24Speaker 1: He even inserted a paper tube into her decrepit corpse
- 21:27to serve as a vagina for making love. Yeah, that's
- 21:29what I'm talking about. That's the fake vagina. I think
- 21:32it was, yeah, it was like something he made. Like
- 21:35he made something. He made a thing to fuck.
- 21:38Speaker 2: People go through lengths to get their rocks off. That's crazy.
- 21:41That's like ingenuity. That's like, man, if you had that
- 21:44energy towards anything positive.
- 21:45Speaker 1: You could get to Mars.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Yeah, you could figure stuff out.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Find us a photo of the corpse.
- 21:50Speaker 2: There we go.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Oh, no, that's Carl Tanzler. That's a different guy.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Oh, it's a different one?
- 21:55Speaker 2: But he did the same thing.
- 21:57Speaker 1: Oh, God.
- 21:58Speaker 2: Yeah. Key West.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Same thing secretly took her body or use French plaster,
- 22:04preserve her skin rigged wires and hangers to support her skeleton.
- 22:09And then pumped a continuous stream of perfume to mass,
- 22:12the stench of the scent of decay, disturbing arrangement continued
- 22:17for seven years. Till it's finally discovered by her sister. Oh, God.
- 22:23Speaker 2: What a horror story that is. Oh, God.
- 22:25Speaker 1: You find your sister's body and there's a continual stream
- 22:30of perfume to keep people from knowing there's a rotted
- 22:32body up there.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 22:34Speaker 1: He did it for years. God, men are fucked.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, any sort of, like, weird predator
- 22:40will end up in that situation where they can do
- 22:43their thing, right? So, like, if you, like, fuck dead bodies,
- 22:45you're gonna be in a corpse. Like, same thing, like, there's, like,
- 22:49female pedophiles.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Just become middle school teachers.
- 22:51Speaker 5: Those in the 30s.
- 22:52Speaker 2: That's what they do.
- 22:53Speaker 1: Jeez. Carl Tanzler. Oh, God. And that's Dr. Michael Badden,
- 22:58the HBO show. That show was awesome, man.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Oh, and he did Epstein's Autopsy.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. He's one of the ones that said
- 23:06that the... wounds were consistent with ligature strangulation, not with hanging.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this last time.
- 23:14Speaker 3: So I recorded my special on the 25th of October,
- 23:17and I have a bunch of Epstein jokes in there,
- 23:19and in the meantime, they said they released the files,
- 23:22and I was like, oh no, but they still haven't
- 23:24released them, and I was like, oh thank god, the
- 23:25jokes still work.
- 23:27Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, thank god.
- 23:30Speaker 3: Because I have like, at least two separate times where
- 23:33I bring them up, because it was even bigger back then.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Well, it's going to go on for a long time,
- 23:37I suspect. I mean, they said they released them, but
- 23:39what did they release?
- 23:40Speaker 2: No, they're still not all out yet.
- 23:41Speaker 1: What did they release? Yeah, yeah. Like, it's weird. The
- 23:44whole thing's weird.
- 23:46Speaker 3: It reminds me of that Onion article where they're like, oh,
- 23:49CIA realizes they've been using a black highlighter this entire time.
- 23:54Speaker 2: It's like that. It's like, oh, okay, you just blacked
- 23:57out pages.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Redacted the shit out of everything.
- 23:59Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:59Speaker 1: It's like, what did they release? Did they release something recently?
- 24:03Speaker 2: No, they haven't released anything in a minute. They had
- 24:05that initial release where everything was blacked out, and it
- 24:07was that picture of Winnie the Pooh, which was hilarious.
- 24:09Speaker 1: But isn't there talk about some new releases that are
- 24:12happening soon? Have they?
- 24:13Speaker 2: It feels like everything's been drowned out by everything else
- 24:15been going on.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:16Speaker 2: With, like, the Somalians and the ice shooting. It feels
- 24:19like that's completely drowned out. Anything about it.
- 24:22Speaker 1: I think some of that's on purpose.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Oh, 100%. Yeah.
- 24:26Speaker 5: 27 minutes to go. Update story. A federal judge blocked
- 24:29the effort to force the release of more files.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Oh. Okay. The federal judge– we said it a little
- 24:41bit wrong. It's the federal judge blocked the lawmaker's effort
- 24:44to force the DOJ to release the Epstein file. So
- 24:47they're trying to force the DOJ.
- 24:50Speaker 5: They already were forced to. They've missed deadlines.
- 24:53Speaker 1: And a federal judge blocked them from forcing them to
- 24:56release it. So a federal judge said, no, you can't
- 24:59force them to release it, even though you campaigned on it.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:05Speaker 1: He ran on it. Even though you stood outside of
- 25:07that courthouse with a bunch of binders. We've got it.
- 25:12Speaker 5: He ruled that he lacks jurisdiction to appoint an outside
- 25:15expert to ensure his own.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Okay, that's a little different. So the federal judge Wednesday
- 25:19ruled that he lacks jurisdiction to appoint an outside expert
- 25:22to ensure the Justice Department complies with a law that
- 25:24makes all files confidential. Pertaining to the prosecution of Jeffrey
- 25:27Epstein available for public view. Okay, that's different.
- 25:29Speaker 3: Yeah, but still, the law chess that they play to
- 25:32make sure it still can't come out is pretty crazy impressive.
- 25:36Speaker 2: I don't have the jurisdiction.
- 25:37Speaker 1: But if you're a federal judge, you can't step outside
- 25:41of your boundaries.
- 25:44Speaker 2: Don't they kind of just do that sometimes, though?
- 25:46Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not supposed to. Just because some of
- 25:49them are unethical or some of them— Right, that's fair. Yeah,
- 25:52I don't understand all this, so I'm going to be
- 25:54charitable about it.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:56Speaker 1: I'm going to be charitable about it. But I just
- 25:58don't understand how anybody can go to jail for sex
- 26:00trafficking when you don't have anybody they sex traffic to. Right. Like,
- 26:05that don't make any sense. Like, if I was Ghislaine's lawyer,
- 26:08I'd be like, to who? To who? Like, how did
- 26:11he not do that? Like, you want to tell me
- 26:13there's some sort of a compromise trial. How do you
- 26:15not have a lawyer that goes– Who did she sex
- 26:19traffic to? Right.
- 26:20Speaker 3: That's clearly– there's some sort of backdoor deal that was like, hey,
- 26:23spend this time in jail and we won't kill you.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Of course.
- 26:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Or also she's working with them. Right. How do you
- 26:31have– I mean in any way, shape or form, how
- 26:34do you have a person convicted of a crime when
- 26:36there's– like especially that kind of a crime where there's
- 26:40a person– That hires you or gives you money or
- 26:44that you use to get influence from and then you
- 26:47sex traffic to them. So there's another person involved and
- 26:51that other person is completely eliminated from the trial because what?
- 26:55Because they're billionaires? Because they're heads of state? Because they're
- 26:58prominent scientists? How is that okay? That doesn't even make
- 27:03sense that you could get through a whole trial like that.
- 27:06Speaker 3: I was saying this earlier. I think this is just
- 27:10a function of government. These intense blackmail sex rings that
- 27:14everyone just kind of gets away with it.
- 27:17Speaker 1: It just happens over and over again. Look at it
- 27:20this way. Imagine if you were selling hash.
- 27:24Speaker 2: Right.
- 27:25Speaker 1: And you had like pounds and pounds of hash at
- 27:27your house and you've been selling hash and you got
- 27:30caught selling hash. They charge you with distribution and you're like, okay,
- 27:36but distributed to who? Cause you're only selling to like rich,
- 27:39famous people. You're only selling them to like heads of
- 27:42JP Morgan. You're selling all your hash to those guys.
- 27:45And they're like, well, who did he sell the hash to? Nobody.
- 27:48Somebody bought $ 100 million worth of hash. And there's nobody?
- 27:53You have no purse? That doesn't make any sense. There's
- 27:55no crime. So he didn't really sell it. You could
- 27:58say he possesses it, but maybe intent to distribute. But
- 28:02if you want to get him for actual distribution and
- 28:04selling of hash, he's got to sell it to somebody.
- 28:08At least an undercover agent. Right.
- 28:11Speaker 3: But in this situation, it's like, did we ever really
- 28:13think anyone was really going to go to jail for this?
- 28:15Speaker 1: I feel like with continual constant pressure, it has to
- 28:21slowly leak out.
- 28:22Speaker 3: Man, I wish I was that optimistic about it. They've
- 28:28done a good job of keeping the names out of
- 28:31the press, even after they said they would leak them.
- 28:33Speaker 1: It says here, FBI and DOJ records from 2019 reference
- 28:37about 10 individuals described as an alleged Epstein murder. co-conspirators,
- 28:41including Maxwell and French modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, who died
- 28:46in French custody in 2022.
- 28:48Speaker 2: That's a way to get out of it, too. Be like, oh,
- 28:50he sold she sold it to a dead guy.
- 28:52Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's also this is not saying that sold
- 28:55it to them. They're co-conspirators. So they were probably involved
- 29:00in facilitating. They're probably involved in acquiring these girls, making
- 29:04connections because that guy owned a modeling agency. So he's
- 29:07or he's a modeling agent.
- 29:09Speaker 2: Right. Right.
- 29:09Speaker 4: Right.
- 29:09Speaker 1: So that guy's getting him girls. So he's a co-conspirator.
- 29:12It's not saying that he was John. You know, he
- 29:15was a John that was getting the girls. He was
- 29:18a co-conspirator. So there's at least 10 individuals who are
- 29:21also– which makes sense. If you have this giant blackmail ring,
- 29:24it's not going to be like one guy.
- 29:25Speaker 2: Right.
- 29:25Speaker 3: I also find it funny the whole– that Mark Epstein guy,
- 29:31his just brother came out of nowhere for.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Like a little bit.
- 29:34Speaker 2: For a little bit.
- 29:35Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's like, fuck this.
- 29:36Speaker 2: It's like, wait, first of all, what do you mean
- 29:37a brother that just knows everything that happened?
- 29:40Speaker 3: Because he came out and said that wasn't like the
- 29:42email that was like, oh, Clinton, Trump's son sucked Clinton's dick.
- 29:46Speaker 2: Yeah. He was like, no, Bubba wasn't Clinton. But you
- 29:48didn't say he didn't suck someone's dick. You just said.
- 29:53Speaker 1: Trump sucked some guy in the above his dick. Some
- 29:55truck driver.
- 29:56Speaker 2: What were you just showing us?
- 29:58Speaker 5: That a few of those people were protected by the
- 30:012008 non-prosecution agreement.
- 30:06Speaker 1: That's a little slap on the wrist, protected a bunch
- 30:09of people. And so they continue to be protected? Is
- 30:11that the idea?
- 30:12Speaker 5: That's where no, I don't know if anybody knows.
- 30:15Speaker 2: Nothing's better in law than a technicality, huh?
- 30:17Speaker 1: That's a slippery one. So what did Epstein's brother wind
- 30:21up saying?
- 30:22Speaker 3: He said it wasn't Bubba, which implied that he knew
- 30:26exactly what was going on on the island the whole
- 30:27time and was just out and about.
- 30:28Speaker 1: But he's still saying that Trump sucked someone's dick?
- 30:31Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 30:33Speaker 2: And then he just straight up disappeared. Where the fuck
- 30:38did he go? We just learned about him.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Man, I believe a lot of things. I do not
- 30:43believe Trump sucks someone's dick. Because he doesn't do drugs.
- 30:46Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 30:47Speaker 1: When Charlie Sheen was saying he sucks some guy's dick, like, okay.
- 30:50Charlie was doing so much crack. It was out of
- 30:52his fucking mind.
- 30:53Speaker 2: I feel like that level of power is a drug
- 30:55at that point.
- 30:57Speaker 1: I mean, maybe. I don't think so. I don't know.
- 31:00Speaker 2: It's a very fun world to believe that he did.
- 31:02Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to get a guy like
- 31:02Trump to suck a dick. It just doesn't seem... That's
- 31:05a guy who's fucked up on drugs. It's like when
- 31:07Diddy was doing it, they were all doing drugs. Right, right, right.
- 31:10It's a drug thing, right? Yeah. Unless you're a gay man,
- 31:14it's a drug thing to go around sucking dicks. So
- 31:16we're assuming that Trump's been hiding the gay the entire— not
- 31:19a chance in hell.
- 31:20Speaker 2: That would be the most impressive hide of all time.
- 31:23Speaker 1: Also, why would he do that?
- 31:24Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no reason.
- 31:25Speaker 1: If you're open and you're gay, side with the fucking Democrats. Like,
- 31:29that's the move. You would probably do all the exact
- 31:32same things when you get into office. It's all horseshit.
- 31:34Speaker 5: I'm trying to follow up a question that does not know.
- 31:37Speaker 2: Who's in charge of Epstein's estate.
- 31:38Speaker 1: It's thinking.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Look at it thinking. Your laptop's about to blow up.
- 31:45I would stop.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Fucking drones about to hit the building. The mothership's going
- 31:50to be on fire.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Tonight when we get there.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, man. It's so funny. It's like it's an
- 31:57attempted cover-up of corruption that would have been successful in
- 32:00the 70s.
- 32:01Speaker 2: Right.
- 32:01Speaker 1: If they had pulled this shit off in the 70s
- 32:03or the 80s, gone.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Well, it's the whole Franklin scandal.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Sure.
- 32:07Speaker 2: Yeah, they killed that reporter.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Yes.
- 32:11Speaker 2: They killed that reporter. There was definitely some.
- 32:14Speaker 3: Underage sexual thing going on there, and they were like, dead.
- 32:18Speaker 2: You and your son. That's what you get for fucking around.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
- 32:21Speaker 2: We'll kill both of you.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Well, you know, Tucker's talked about this and a few
- 32:25other people have talked about this. There's a bunch of
- 32:27secretly gay politicians.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 32:30Speaker 1: And then there's probably a bunch of secret pedophiles as well.
- 32:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, definitely.
- 32:35Speaker 1: For sure.
- 32:37Speaker 2: I pulled that once on Bottom of the Barrel, just
- 32:39secretly gay Republicans. That was my thing.
- 32:42Speaker 3: And then I was like, can you imagine how good
- 32:44that sex feels? Especially after you spent all day being like,
- 32:50it's bad, it's wrong.
- 32:51Speaker 2: And then that sex is extra hot. Yeah, because you're
- 32:55going against God and your party at one time.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Some twink with his converse on.
- 32:59Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 33:03Speaker 2: And then you go back and be like, family value. Like,
- 33:06that level of.
- 33:08Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of them that are putting
- 33:10on a show. A lot of them. They're putting on
- 33:12an act, and you're never going to get to know
- 33:14who they really are. And that's why when something comes out, it's, like, shocking.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Like, oh!
- 33:19Speaker 1: Right. They're all fucking weirdos. They're all weirdos. You have
- 33:23to be a weirdo to want to run the... Or
- 33:24you have to be, like, this amazing person. Like, it's
- 33:27two options. You have to be Gandhi or you have
- 33:29to be a weirdo. You know what I mean?
- 33:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:31Speaker 3: And speaker of pedophiles. We had a speaker of the
- 33:33house that was a pedophile for like eight years.
- 33:35Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A real one.
- 33:37Speaker 2: A real deal pedophile.
- 33:39Speaker 1: A real deal convicted pedophile.
- 33:41Speaker 2: What was his name again?
- 33:42Speaker 4: Hastert?
- 33:43Speaker 5: Hastert.
- 33:43Speaker 2: I think it might have been Hastert.
- 33:44Speaker 1: I think so.
- 33:45Speaker 2: I feel like we should look that up.
- 33:46Speaker 1: Let's look that up.
- 33:47Speaker 2: I don't want to be like, oh, Hastert was like
- 33:49a nice guy and we're calling him Red Bull. Speak
- 33:51of the house.
- 33:52Speaker 1: He was involved in a very big scandal of it, right?
- 33:55Speaker 2: Yeah, Dennis Hastert. Yeah. Yes. It was like some Sandusky shit.
- 33:59It was at a school that he was teaching at.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Exactly. Allegations that Senate– scroll up a little bit.
- 34:04Speaker 2: Sorry, Russell.
- 34:04Speaker 1: Senate candidate Roy Moore spent his 30s dating, propositioning, and
- 34:08sexually assaulting high school-aged girls. It was shocking but not
- 34:12without precedent. There have been plenty of congressmen who carried
- 34:15on sexual relationships with teenagers from Thomas Jefferson. That was
- 34:18back when people died when they were 18. Yeah. Strom Thurmond,
- 34:21perhaps more dastardly, Illinois Rep. Dennis Hastert served as Speaker
- 34:26of the House from 1999 to 2007.
- 34:28Speaker 3: And a little further down the line, and additionally agreed
- 34:30that Hastert sodomized a fourth-grade boy in a school bathroom
- 34:34and threatened him if he reported assault.
- 34:35Speaker 2: That's like Sandusky stuff. Jesus Christ.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Since the statute of limitation had expired on these crimes,
- 34:41Hastert was instead convicted of evading bank reporting requirements in
- 34:45order to Secretly pay off his victims.
- 34:48Speaker 2: That's so funny.
- 34:49Speaker 1: He served 15 months in prison. That's it. Holy shit.
- 34:53Speaker 2: That's so crazy to pay off your victims and not
- 34:55do it in cash. What? Yeah, that's a lot of money.
- 35:00That's fair.
- 35:00Speaker 1: I bet it was. I bet it was quite a
- 35:02bit of money. Holy shit, dude. Yeah. And so if
- 35:05there's one kid that got a fourth grade boy in
- 35:09a school bathroom, how many more did he do that to?
- 35:13How many just don't want the shame? Of it coming
- 35:16out publicly. How many guys are struggling with it right now?
- 35:18They're 35 years old. They don't want to tell that story. Right.
- 35:21That ruined their life because the Speaker of the House
- 35:24fucked them.
- 35:25Speaker 2: Crazy.
- 35:26Speaker 1: Crazy.
- 35:27Speaker 2: Crazy.
- 35:28Speaker 1: So he's not alone.
- 35:29Speaker 4: No.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Right?
- 35:31Speaker 2: No.
- 35:31Speaker 1: That's the Franklin scandal.
- 35:32Speaker 3: And there's no way that wasn't uncovered beforehand by people.
- 35:36Just the way the political machine works. But that's like
- 35:38sort of like. You get me for this. I'll get
- 35:40you for this. So you keep that under wraps. You
- 35:42just have that in your back pocket.
- 35:43Speaker 1: I think it's just part of that game that they play.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
- 35:47Speaker 1: It's like Game of Thrones.
- 35:48Speaker 2: For sure. It really is.
- 35:50Speaker 1: It really is like Game of Thrones.
- 35:53Speaker 2: It's just a whorehouse.
- 35:54Speaker 1: And also House of Cards, right? It sucks that Kevin
- 35:58Spacey got busted because that show ruled.
- 36:00Speaker 2: I know, right?
- 36:02Speaker 3: But, you know, it's so funny because thinking back on it,
- 36:05like if you looked at movies, my genuine take before
- 36:08he got busted for this is he plays the greatest villains.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Yes.
- 36:11Speaker 2: He's like the greatest villain actor of all time.
- 36:13Speaker 1: He's the greatest creep.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 36:15Speaker 1: He's like a brilliant creep, like with darkness behind his eyes. Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 36:21Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 36:21Speaker 1: And then can turn it on the charm, that southern charm.
- 36:24How about when he did that fucking weird video in
- 36:28front of the fireplace?
- 36:30Speaker 2: Oh, dude.
- 36:31Speaker 1: Like, in character? Kill him with kindness.
- 36:35Speaker 3: Right after the witness to his case died? Like, another
- 36:38witness to his case died?
- 36:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:39Speaker 2: Like, what? People were dropping or, like, flies around space either. Bro. Crazy.
- 36:45Real deal villain shit.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Acting out the literal plot lines as the character. Being
- 36:53the character while he's tending the fire.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Goes to show you, he's still a genius artist.
- 36:59Speaker 1: Amazing.
- 36:59Speaker 2: Yeah, just like a wow. Amazing. And at any other time,
- 37:02he would have never gotten caught. That's just how the
- 37:05machine worked at the time. Yeah.
- 37:06Speaker 1: I mean, he's just one of those guys that got
- 37:09an immense amount of power and he was just a
- 37:11dick grabber. Like, dude, I'm a dick. And I bet
- 37:14a lot of guys are like, okay. That's the problem
- 37:16with wild pitches. You know, you fucking swing at every
- 37:20pitch and You're going to hit a few.
- 37:22Speaker 4: Right.
- 37:22Speaker 1: You know, but he's probably, you know, for all these
- 37:25guys that he grabbed dicks and said, you know, probably drunk,
- 37:28probably fucked up. How many guys like let him suck
- 37:31their dick? A lot, I bet. I bet it was
- 37:33an effective strategy.
- 37:35Speaker 5: Right.
- 37:35Speaker 2: Especially for famous in Hollywood.
- 37:36Speaker 1: He did it to gay guys. But he was like
- 37:39the one guy that the story broke was a young teenager, right?
- 37:44When he was like 14 or something like that.
- 37:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 37:46Speaker 1: And they were working together or something like that.
- 37:49Speaker 2: It was definitely a minor thing.
- 37:51Speaker 1: But it's also like, why is that teenager at a
- 37:53minor with a bunch of drunk gay guys? Like, hey,
- 37:56where's your dad? The fuck is going on? What are
- 38:00you doing there? But it's, you know, it's not excusing
- 38:04him for doing it. The thing about people in the
- 38:06gay community is they look very differently at teenage boy,
- 38:12gay teenage boy, men relationships than we do at like,
- 38:17teenage girl men relationships. They look at it very differently.
- 38:21Like Milo got in trouble for that is Milo on his,
- 38:25on my podcast was talking about this guy that molested him.
- 38:27He was like, trust me, I was the predator. Right.
- 38:30That's what he said. That's a crazy thing to say,
- 38:34but they look at it differently.
- 38:37Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 38:37Speaker 3: That's a, I remember someone was, uh, I was living
- 38:42in LA and we had this gay dude who was
- 38:45sleeping on the, uh, you know, we had a, uh,
- 38:49bed in the living room for guests to stay over.
- 38:51So he was, he like lived there for like two
- 38:53months and they were, we were watching call me by
- 38:55your name. And he, it's like a, it's like a,
- 38:59it's army hammer and maybe it's Chalamet.
- 39:00Speaker 2: I forgot. I was in and out. My roommates were
- 39:02watching it, but it's like a, about a gay story
- 39:05between an older man and a, a younger boy.
- 39:07Speaker 3: And, um, yeah, he, he would say, he said this red,
- 39:11like he was watching it like, Oh, this reads like
- 39:13a fan fiction of an older gay dude being in
- 39:16love with like a younger gay guy.
- 39:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a– I remember that. I remember him
- 39:22telling us that. I'm like, oh, okay. That's interesting.
- 39:24Speaker 1: I mean it kind of makes sense, right? Because we
- 39:26think very differently of like a high school football. player
- 39:30that winds up banging a really hot science teacher.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 39:34Speaker 1: You know, you're not mad.
- 39:35Speaker 2: No.
- 39:36Speaker 1: You're just like, this is crazy. That lady's crazy. She's 35.
- 39:39She's got two kids. She fucks a 17-year-old boy in
- 39:42the bathroom.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Yeah. I said that earlier. Female pedophiles become teachers. That
- 39:46is what they do. They find the way.
- 39:47Speaker 1: It's very, very, very different than... the scenario of like
- 39:51the football coach that's banging the cheerleader. That's crazy.
- 39:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 39:55Speaker 1: That makes you want to lynch him.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Yeah. That's way gross. It's weird, right? Yeah.
- 39:59Speaker 1: It is weird. Yeah.
- 40:00Speaker 2: It's like, yeah.
- 40:01Speaker 3: With every, every time there is that there's a South
- 40:04Park episode about it. Every time you hear that story about,
- 40:06you know, the, the, the older teacher fucking the young boy,
- 40:09every guy's kind of like, nice.
- 40:11Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know how the best joke about it
- 40:13was Zach Alphanakis. He said, do you hear the boy died? Yeah,
- 40:17his friends high-fived him to death.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Man, that live at the Purple Onion.
- 40:27Speaker 1: Oh, fantastic.
- 40:28Speaker 2: That was a fucking great special.
- 40:31Speaker 1: What is he doing these days?
- 40:32Speaker 2: I have no idea.
- 40:33Speaker 3: He was on that show for a while on FX Baskets.
- 40:36That was really good about the clown. Louie Anderson won
- 40:37the Emmy on it.
- 40:38Speaker 1: He owns a farm somewhere. He has, like, a farm.
- 40:41I think he's, like... He's very smart. Have you ever
- 40:45talked to him?
- 40:46Speaker 2: I've never met him. I've never. The only time I
- 40:49saw him live was at Brody's Memorial.
- 40:52Speaker 1: Yeah, he was real tight with Brody. He is one
- 40:55of the ways that I found out that Brody was
- 40:58off his meds. He contacted me. Do you remember that
- 41:01one time when Brody got real kind of like almost
- 41:05aggressive crazy and was like yelling at people in the
- 41:07audience sometimes? And it got weird. It wasn't like performance
- 41:10already anymore. It was like what's happening with Brody? And
- 41:14then he got back, and he, like, bounced it out.
- 41:17Brody had, like, a legit problem. Whatever it was, whatever
- 41:21his mental health issue was, like, he needed medication. Like,
- 41:25he was legit crazy. And Zach contacted me and said,
- 41:28it seems like Brody's off his meds, so just don't
- 41:30engage with him. Damn.
- 41:33Speaker 2: Damn.
- 41:34Speaker 1: So it's like you got to kind of figure out
- 41:36a way to corral him, get him back on his stuff.
- 41:40Speaker 2: But, man, when he was in that main room.
- 41:42Speaker 3: When he was in that main room and what was
- 41:44left of the crowd was rocking with him. It was
- 41:46just so much fun just watching him play drums.
- 41:48Speaker 1: He came into the improv one night. We were doing
- 41:52a later show. So it was like a 10 o'clock show.
- 41:54And he was on late. And the show was kind
- 41:56of Peter now. You know how it does. At the time,
- 41:59it was probably like about half full. And then, ladies
- 42:04and gentlemen, please welcome Brody Stevens. Brody takes his shirt
- 42:07off and starts swinging it around in the air like
- 42:10a flag. He goes through the crowd. Let's go! Energy!
- 42:17He just gets everybody fired up. He immediately breaks out
- 42:20the drumsticks, starts fucking drumming on the seat, and then
- 42:24starts telling jokes and just changed the whole tempo of
- 42:28the room. Everything lit up.
- 42:30Speaker 2: It was awesome.
- 42:31Speaker 1: It was like, that's what Brody can do. Yeah. With
- 42:33pure charisma and talent and just personality.
- 42:38Speaker 3: And anytime I see him, like, anytime I see a
- 42:40person in the audience like this, arms crossed, negative.
- 42:42Speaker 2: That's all I can think. That's all I can think.
- 42:45It's like, wow, you are giving me negative energy right now.
- 42:47Speaker 1: For no reason.
- 42:48Speaker 2: For no reason. You're at a show. Come and enjoy it.
- 42:52You know, especially when you see it, because I cold
- 42:54open a lot, you see it like, like, you see
- 42:56people be like, why are you.
- 42:58Why'd you come here, like, impress me? Like, you're already here.
- 43:01Enjoy the energy.
- 43:02Speaker 1: It takes a while sometimes for people to loosen up.
- 43:04You have the hardest job when we do those Joe
- 43:06Rogan and Friends shows and you cold open. I've only
- 43:09cold opened a few times over the last few years. Yeah.
- 43:12Or over the last 10 years.
- 43:14Speaker 2: It's hard.
- 43:15Speaker 1: You've got to hypnotize those people. You've got to slowly
- 43:17work your way into the rhythm of jokes.
- 43:19Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 43:20Speaker 3: You have to sort of like– I like it because
- 43:21it's energy matching. You have to find out where they are,
- 43:24catch on to them, and then bring them to the energy.
- 43:26Speaker 2: That you want.
- 43:26Speaker 1: You know who's really good at it?
- 43:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Hans Kim.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 43:29Speaker 1: Really good.
- 43:30Speaker 2: Well, it's just straight jokes. Uh-huh.
- 43:32Speaker 1: It's just straight jokes. And he's funny looking, you know,
- 43:36like he's got a big smile on his face. He's
- 43:39having fun. You kind of get into his groove real quick. And,
- 43:42you know, he did so many arenas with me and
- 43:44so many big places. And he was the perfect guy
- 43:47because he would just go, let me tell you something
- 43:49about myself. Right away, he would take control of the room.
- 43:54It was awesome.
- 43:55Speaker 2: Derek's great at bringing him into it. It's fun watching.
- 43:57It's fun watching the different people like their different cold
- 44:00open strategy.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Derek is just like getting everybody fired up. Excitement. And
- 44:04he's so lovable. You know, he's got, again, so much charisma.
- 44:07Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
- 44:08Speaker 3: But it's the cold opening for as long as I
- 44:12have done. And my career even pre this club, it's
- 44:15just it made me I feel like so much stronger
- 44:18because like almost like running with ankle weights on. And
- 44:20then now, like leading up to me releasing the too soon,
- 44:24I was like, oh, I was like all these spots
- 44:27I was getting at the end of the shows.
- 44:28Speaker 2: These were material.
- 44:29Speaker 3: This is all material that I tested at the beginning
- 44:31of Rogan and Friends, which especially at the beginning of
- 44:35the club, a lot of people were like, Wait, you're
- 44:38not Rogan talking.
- 44:39Speaker 2: To a friend. Like, they thought they were coming to
- 44:41a live podcast. You know, it took a while before
- 44:43the shows were like, oh, yeah, this is a stand-up show. Really? Yeah.
- 44:47Speaker 1: People thought it was going to be a podcast?
- 44:48Speaker 2: At the very beginning, there were some episodes where you
- 44:51had to, like, introduce the concept of this is going
- 44:53to be stand-up. That's crazy.
- 44:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 44:56Speaker 3: Now it's not like that. But, like, at the very beginning,
- 44:58it for sure was. But, like, it was, like, I felt...
- 45:01My material was, like, battle-tested.
- 45:04Speaker 1: Well, it certainly is. I mean, that's—the running with weights
- 45:07is a great analogy because I think that's exactly what
- 45:09it is.
- 45:10Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes the jokes so much stronger.
- 45:13Speaker 1: You know what else is really good for your act
- 45:14is hosting.
- 45:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:16Speaker 1: Because you go up so often. Like, one of the
- 45:18things that really helped a lot of guys at the
- 45:20store was hosting potluck because, you know, you have to—
- 45:25There's all this chaos. Someone just bombed. Something crazy just happened.
- 45:29Someone just did something completely fucking insane. You have a
- 45:32chance to make fun of it.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Reset the room.
- 45:34Speaker 1: Reset the room. And there's a comfort level that comes
- 45:37because you're essentially doing stand-up from 8 p.m. to 2 a.m. Yes.
- 45:42Speaker 3: Yeah, when I first started, when I lived in, first
- 45:45was a door guy in Hollywood. Derek was booking the
- 45:47Madhouse and I would come down and host the weekend shows.
- 45:50So every day I'd host from every weekend or two
- 45:53weekends a month, I would host from five to two
- 45:55in the morning because you'd host the open mic afterward.
- 45:57Speaker 2: And you just host the entire night. It's a full
- 45:59day's worth of hosting.
- 46:01Speaker 1: That's awesome.
- 46:01Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, it's because the opening spots suck, but
- 46:05like they make you better.
- 46:06Speaker 2: It's the ones that suck that make you better.
- 46:08Speaker 1: It's definitely– well, you realize where the sloppy parts of
- 46:11your bits are. Like you're saying them, you're like, ew. Right.
- 46:15It gets you. You're like, ew. Right. Whereas when the
- 46:18crowd's popping and they're laughing at everything, they want to laugh.
- 46:21You can get that through and actually get a laugh.
- 46:23But then when it's quiet and it's the beginning of
- 46:26the show, you realize, oh, this bit sucks. Right. I
- 46:29got to bring this bit to the garage.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to not put it up front.
- 46:34What was I thinking? Yeah.
- 46:36Speaker 1: I got to tighten this motherfucker up. But it's, you know,
- 46:39there's plenty of other spots. That's the beautiful thing. I mean,
- 46:42we're running four shows a night, every night. And so,
- 46:45and then.
- 46:45Speaker 2: And there's so much around the scene. There's so much.
- 46:48Speaker 3: I was telling someone in LA, it's like, oh, if
- 46:51I chose not to get up 10 spots in front
- 46:54of an audience member in a week, at the very least,
- 46:57then I chose that.
- 46:58Speaker 2: Because it's so easy to just go out and get spots.
- 46:59Speaker 1: There's so many spots.
- 47:00Speaker 2: With people and like.
- 47:01Speaker 3: Around in downtown alone, there's like 12 dedicated comedy rooms.
- 47:05Speaker 2: It's insane.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Did you see was it Rappaport that got kicked off
- 47:09of a show at Cap City? They canceled the show.
- 47:12Speaker 2: They canceled Rappaport.
- 47:13Speaker 1: And let me see what the post was, because they
- 47:15said something like there's another big club that will have
- 47:18you or something like that.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 47:20Speaker 1: Are they insinuating that we would have him and that
- 47:22he's racist and we would have him?
- 47:23Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 47:24Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 47:24Speaker 2: They just assume the mothership is full of racist people.
- 47:27Speaker 1: They don't.
- 47:28Speaker 2: Yeah, people do.
- 47:29Speaker 1: But the guy that owns that is the guy that
- 47:30owns helium.
- 47:31Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, not just that.
- 47:33Speaker 3: I think that's pervasive around comedy for sure.
- 47:35Speaker 1: It's nonsense. They're pretending they think that. There's no way
- 47:39they think that. If you just look at the lineup, there's.
- 47:41Speaker 2: No way they think that. Well, no one's looking at
- 47:42the lineup.
- 47:42Speaker 3: They're really like, oh, Joe and Tony support Trump, so
- 47:45this must be filled with racist people.
- 47:46Speaker 2: That's what it is.
- 47:47Speaker 1: What did they say? Can you pull up the– Yeah,
- 47:50it has to– I mean– I think they phrased it
- 47:53in an interesting way. So Austin for Palestine Coalition.
- 47:59Speaker 2: That's a rap-a-pore. It's pretty funny.
- 48:00Speaker 1: That's a rap-a-pore. That's actually pretty funny. He's done canceled.
- 48:04Thank you, Cap City. Comedy, and Helium Management for listening
- 48:07to Austin and canceling the racist provocateur Michael Rapaport show
- 48:12at your establishment. And so.
- 48:14Speaker 2: Hey, Michael Rapaport, there's a... Make sure... Yeah, yeah, that's the...
- 48:19The caption is like... There's another club insinuating that we
- 48:22would take him.
- 48:23Speaker 1: But what is this? This is just Austin comedy. That's
- 48:25just someone's account.
- 48:27Speaker 2: It's just someone's account, yeah. When I first moved here,
- 48:30that's how I figured out where all the open mics
- 48:31and shows were.
- 48:32Speaker 1: But they're not accusing us. It's pretty sure there's another
- 48:34club or large venue space that will welcome you that
- 48:39aren't run by helium. There's a lot of places that
- 48:43that's not necessarily they're saying to us. If you still
- 48:46want to make a stop in Austin, just let them know.
- 48:48Most of us here are friendly and won't use politics
- 48:51and hate to cancel silence performers. So that seems like
- 48:55they're kind of saying, like, hey, Michael, come do another spot.
- 49:00Do it somewhere else. I don't think they're accusing him
- 49:04of that.
- 49:05Speaker 2: Right.
- 49:05Speaker 1: That sounds more supportive of him coming here and saying
- 49:08most of us are friendly and won't use politics and
- 49:11hate to cancel silence performance. Right. So that's not helium
- 49:15saying that.
- 49:15Speaker 2: I guess he's outspokenly pro-Israel for this to happen.
- 49:20Speaker 1: I'm not paying attention to that, dude. Because I feel
- 49:22like a lot of it is needy.
- 49:25Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 49:25Speaker 1: There's a lot of trying to get attention too hard.
- 49:28Speaker 2: Right.
- 49:29Speaker 1: It's like... He's not a dumb guy. He's got some
- 49:34really good points. But the problem is if you try
- 49:36too hard and you're doing it all the time, then
- 49:38the good points miss me.
- 49:39Speaker 2: Right.
- 49:40Speaker 1: They miss me because you're already connected to all that
- 49:42other silly shit.
- 49:43Speaker 2: They're just lost in a sea of like, yeah.
- 49:47Speaker 1: Which is good and bad depending on whether or not
- 49:48you want to be taken seriously. Right. I don't want
- 49:50to be taken seriously. So like if I do UFO
- 49:53shows or Bigfoot shows, like good. Oh, he believes in dragons.
- 49:56Speaker 5: Good.
- 49:58Speaker 1: Good. Don't take me seriously.
- 50:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 50:00Speaker 4: But.
- 50:01Speaker 1: When you're talking about something like Israel and Palestine, I guess,
- 50:05because it said something citizens for Palestine.
- 50:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it had to have been. They're not canceling. The
- 50:10coalition for Palestine is not going out of their way.
- 50:12Speaker 1: I had no idea anybody was calling Michael Rappaport racist.
- 50:16Speaker 2: Oh, well, yeah. This is the first Michael Rappaport news
- 50:19I've heard in years, if I'm going to be honest.
- 50:20Speaker 1: I had no idea. There was an organized campaign to
- 50:24stop his shows?
- 50:25Speaker 2: There must be. If it's happening here, it's happening everywhere, right?
- 50:27Speaker 1: It has to be. Okay. Since early November, our coalition
- 50:33sent several emails. That's all it took. No, it says
- 50:37they were ignored. While employees had privately shared that they're uncomfortable. Oh,
- 50:41they privately shared that. With anti-Palestinian hate monger Rappaport being hosted,
- 50:46management seems unwilling to listen to their community. That's not
- 50:49necessarily their community. That's just some people in the community.
- 50:53Rappaport isn't just a fanatical Zionist with political views we
- 50:56disagree with. He's a racist. who cruelly mocks dead civilians
- 51:01and children. He mocks immigrants and supports ICE detentions of
- 51:05people whose viewpoints he dislikes. Additionally, he has a reputation
- 51:08for being generally disliked by people he's worked with, doxing
- 51:12his political opponents, and has been accused of working with
- 51:14Fox News to spread fake propaganda. Okay, this is like
- 51:17a lot.
- 51:17Speaker 2: Yeah, this is, yeah.
- 51:18Speaker 1: Who wrote this?
- 51:19Speaker 2: Austin for Palestine Coalition. So maybe it's just in Austin. Oh, yeah,
- 51:22that's it. Austin for, yeah. And then they got him
- 51:24out of Cap City. Yeah.
- 51:30Speaker 1: So what is it? Go back up to the top
- 51:31of that thing. What is the original? No, no, no, no, no.
- 51:35The original thing that I read. It said he's mocked.
- 51:41He's a racist who cruelly mocks dead civilians and children.
- 51:45Is that true? I don't think that's true.
- 51:47Speaker 2: We'd have to go through his. Yeah, that's the thing.
- 51:50Speaker 1: It's like when you say something like that.
- 51:51Speaker 2: Yeah. You just have to take that for face value
- 51:54that he does that if you want to believe that.
- 51:56Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that. I would imagine that
- 51:58if he did something like that, it would go viral, right?
- 52:00Speaker 2: Maybe not.
- 52:02Speaker 1: Mocking dead children?
- 52:03Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, yeah. Maybe not.
- 52:05Speaker 1: Probably. In this day and age?
- 52:07Speaker 2: Yeah. He's famous enough for sure.
- 52:09Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 52:10Speaker 2: Yeah, he was straight up mocking.
- 52:11Speaker 1: If you're mocking dead children. Look at the people that
- 52:13mock Charlie Kirk. The fucking hate came strong.
- 52:17Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. They all like lost their jobs.
- 52:19Speaker 1: They felt the heat.
- 52:20Speaker 2: Yeah, immediately.
- 52:21Speaker 1: Immediately. Yeah.
- 52:22Speaker 3: Yeah, it is– like the internet makes people very comfortable
- 52:26with putting their initial emotional reaction out for everyone to see.
- 52:29And it's like– there's something that Derek talks about. It's
- 52:32like we got to go back to the times when
- 52:33like people were like, oh, you can't post yourself with
- 52:36a red cup. Cause like a job might see that
- 52:39you won't get the job.
- 52:40Speaker 1: Like that used to be drinking.
- 52:41Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 52:41Speaker 2: That used to be like, and now people are like
- 52:44just full on sketches of like people dying and like, Oh,
- 52:48you see so many people die just constantly too. So
- 52:50it's like, everyone's just desensitized to everything.
- 52:52Speaker 1: There's a lot of desensitization. There's a lot of people
- 52:55that also live in these echo chambers and they think
- 52:57when they say things like, well, who was that one
- 53:00lady that was a, she was a CEO somewhere. She
- 53:02had a very high level position somewhere. And she posted
- 53:05on her Instagram story, I think. Something like that. She posted,
- 53:08rest in piss, Charlie Kirk.
- 53:10Speaker 2: Right.
- 53:10Speaker 1: Like.
- 53:12Speaker 2: Like you're a.
- 53:12Speaker 1: Regular person with a real job. You're talking about a
- 53:15guy who got murdered and you just wrote rest in
- 53:17piss on the internet because in their bubble, they were
- 53:20saying that kind of stuff. They thought it was a
- 53:22cool thing to say.
- 53:23Speaker 3: Yeah, your algorithm is so designed to just show you
- 53:28what things that agree with you. So everyone gets more
- 53:32and more like, oh, everyone believes this. Everyone– because everyone
- 53:35around or everyone I perceive to be around me believes
- 53:39that when really it's just– It's like half of it's fake.
- 53:42Most of it is just some Pakistani guy.
- 53:45Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, somewhere with like.
- 53:46Speaker 1: A million phones. Have you seen a new AI where
- 53:48you can– It's just constant. No, no, no. The new
- 53:50one where you can be any celebrity and it looks
- 53:54exactly like that celebrity. So all your movements, you could
- 53:57be like Mike from Stranger Things.
- 54:00Speaker 2: Damn.
- 54:01Speaker 1: And it's super accurate. Damn. Like crazy accurate.
- 54:04Speaker 3: We're getting to the point where like– surveillance videos won't
- 54:09be admissible in court. Like it's going to be, it's
- 54:11going to be up to there.
- 54:12Speaker 1: It'll, it'll all have to be on the blockchain. But
- 54:15even that, like, I don't understand the blockchain. Do you?
- 54:18Who knows? Manipulated.
- 54:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 54:20Speaker 1: See if you can find that video of, cause there
- 54:22was a one performer who did a series of different
- 54:26people from stranger things. He did like L from stranger
- 54:30things and Mike from, and it's fucking nuts. So the
- 54:33same person, just moving their hands around and talking, and
- 54:36they look exactly like the other person.
- 54:39Speaker 3: Right, so now you're seeing heavily manipulated content. Unless you
- 54:45go out of your way to look for another opinion,
- 54:49you're just going to become entrenched in your own opinion.
- 54:52That's sort of the problem with what's happening right now.
- 54:54Speaker 1: Or entrenched in the opinion that they want to promote.
- 54:57Speaker 2: Yes, they want to promote.
- 54:58Speaker 3: You're just sort of like, oh, you're just being fed
- 55:00this constant line of like, bullshit you gotta do some
- 55:02like algorithm cleanses that's what like fuck like you know
- 55:06like you go on juice cleanses you gotta do that
- 55:07with your algorithm well.
- 55:09Speaker 1: I think honestly what you gotta do is stay offline
- 55:11yeah you're gonna get got no matter what your your
- 55:14algorithm is eventually gonna catch you again it's like i'm
- 55:15gonna do a little heroin this time and the next
- 55:18thing you know you're a full-on heroin junkie right right
- 55:20for me it's like there's so many videos of people
- 55:23getting killed by alligators and lions that are fake and
- 55:26they just look a little off Like the lion jumps
- 55:30in the car and pulls them out. You're like, no.
- 55:32You're like, something's wrong with this.
- 55:34Speaker 2: The way people react. Right now the reactions of people
- 55:36in the background don't match.
- 55:38Speaker 1: Right.
- 55:38Speaker 3: Because it used to be you could see the fingers
- 55:40and the fingers would be all fucked up. But they
- 55:42got the fingers pretty down now. They're getting better at that.
- 55:44Speaker 2: Now it's like you got to look in the– if
- 55:45the people in the background aren't reacting, you're like, okay.
- 55:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 55:48Speaker 3: Like if I was– people in the background would react
- 55:51to a guy getting eaten by a lion.
- 55:52Speaker 1: I guess they could probably fix that though with a prompt. Well,
- 55:55that would be the next generation. And everybody in the
- 55:56background scatter.
- 55:57Speaker 2: That's the next generation.
- 55:57Speaker 1: I don't even think it's the next generation. I think
- 55:59it's just you got to just ask it to do
- 56:01a better version. Keep correcting it. Asking it to do better.
- 56:04Fix this. Fix that.
- 56:05Speaker 2: Have you ever done that with a video where you
- 56:07ask it to keep fixing things?
- 56:08Speaker 1: No.
- 56:08Speaker 3: It gets overloaded and it just gets worse and worse
- 56:10and worse. If you ask it to fix it, it's
- 56:13not good at making an edit on the video you
- 56:16already have.
- 56:17Speaker 1: Oh.
- 56:17Speaker 3: So you can be like, let's say it'll just generate
- 56:19another thing. And because it's making a video about a video,
- 56:21everything gets fucked up.
- 56:22Speaker 1: Look at this.
- 56:24Speaker 2: Holy shit.
- 56:27Speaker 1: This is crazy, dude.
- 56:29Speaker 2: That one looks kind of AI. That looks a little AI, too.
- 56:32Speaker 1: A little smooth in the face. So it's probably better for...
- 56:36Do it again? Run it again from the beginning?
- 56:38Speaker 2: The first couple ones might get you.
- 56:40Speaker 3: It's when one seems obviously really fake.
- 56:43Speaker 1: You know what the thing is, too? I think it's
- 56:45really good with young people. Like him, it looks fake
- 56:49for some reason. Yeah, when it got there.
- 56:50Speaker 2: He looks fake. But then you realize they all look
- 56:52fake after you see one that looks fake.
- 56:53Speaker 1: But not that fake. No. It's just if they did
- 56:56the lighting a little better, you know, it looks a
- 56:59little too bright.
- 57:00Speaker 3: But yeah, see, I wonder if our perception, because the
- 57:02first three look real. I wonder if our perception would
- 57:04change if they put the one of the guy that
- 57:06looks fake first.
- 57:08Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying?
- 57:09Speaker 1: I don't know because this one looks real. Like that
- 57:12looks like her. Like if you just had that one
- 57:15and had her saying a bunch of things, I would
- 57:16think it's her saying a bunch of things.
- 57:19Speaker 2: Well, that's fucking crazy. We're fucked.
- 57:21Speaker 1: We're fucked, man. Anybody who doesn't think we're fucked isn't
- 57:23paying attention. It's going to get super weird.
- 57:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 57:27Speaker 1: And how much of that are they going to use
- 57:29on us in the news, you know?
- 57:31Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 57:34Speaker 3: The news is already fucked. I was thinking about this
- 57:37the other day, how it's crazy that because our algorithms
- 57:40are so different, I think this is why everyone gets
- 57:42so charged over news things now, is news is the
- 57:44only thing we have in common anymore. There's not really
- 57:47a show that everyone's watching or a set of shows
- 57:51that everyone's watching. Your algorithm sends you things that you like,
- 57:54so you're completely disconnected.
- 57:56Speaker 2: Entertainment-wise to the people around you. And the only thing
- 57:59you really have in common is... What's going on in
- 58:03the world. Right. Because that's the only thing that's consistent.
- 58:05Speaker 1: And your opinions on it.
- 58:06Speaker 5: Yes.
- 58:06Speaker 1: What side are you on?
- 58:07Speaker 2: Yes.
- 58:08Speaker 1: Because everything becomes divided.
- 58:10Speaker 2: Yes. And you have to have a take on everything.
- 58:12Speaker 1: Yeah. Vaccines, food pyramid, Gaza.
- 58:14Speaker 2: Yeah. Everything has to have a take. Oh, yeah. Oh,
- 58:16we were cooked as a– like companies have to do it. Yeah.
- 58:19Speaker 3: I've been saying like we've been cooked as a country.
- 58:22I've known we've been cooked as a country ever since
- 58:23Ben and Jerry's had a take on Gaza. It's like
- 58:25there's no reason for this.
- 58:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 58:27Speaker 2: There's no reason for this. You're a company trying to
- 58:29sell stuff.
- 58:30Speaker 1: There's a lot of incentives for companies to like whatever.
- 58:34What is that ESG score? Is that what it is?
- 58:38What is the score that they give? So companies have
- 58:40DEI scores for favorable loans and for government money. It
- 58:46gets real weird when you start intertwining the– it gets
- 58:51real communist-y. ESG score evaluates a company's sustainability and ethical impact,
- 58:56measuring its performance in environmental, social, and governance areas such
- 59:00as carbon footprint, labor practices, and board diversity to help
- 59:05investors and stakeholders access long-term risk and potential. Excuse me.
- 59:10long-term risk and potential. Calculated by specialized agencies like MSCI
- 59:15and Sustainalytics, scores often from 0 to 100 or letter
- 59:22grades gauge how well a company manages risk in these
- 59:25non-financial areas, influencing reputation, access, To capital. This is what's important.
- 59:32And long-term financial performances. So climate change impact, resource use,
- 59:39waste pollution, energy efficiency, employee relations, diversity and inclusion, labor standards.
- 59:45So you're essentially forcing the company to act a certain way.
- 59:50You can't do it completely as a meritocracy. You have
- 59:53to have a representative board of people, which a lot
- 59:56of people agree with. None of those people are exceptional.
- 59:59None of the people are exceptional at their job that
- 1:00:02agree you should have specific categories of race or gender
- 1:00:05replace meritocracy.
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: No one really good, male or female, black, white, Asian, whatever,
- 1:00:11no one really good at their job wants that.
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: No, no, because that just gets in the way of
- 1:00:16the job. It gets in the way. It's like I
- 1:00:18have to worry about this social score.
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, fuck off.
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: That's kind of what we're like heading towards, right? Well,
- 1:00:24it's left now.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: With Trump in office. There was a guy who was
- 1:00:27a CEO of some company that was talking about the
- 1:00:29gigantic shift in dealing with the government that had occurred
- 1:00:32right after Trump took office. He was like it was instantaneous,
- 1:00:35like all the restrictions, regulations. And this is one of
- 1:00:39the problems with California in particular. It's incredibly overregulated. So
- 1:00:43it's really difficult to do anything. Which is one of
- 1:00:45the reasons why so few people have even begun attempting
- 1:00:48to rebuild their fucking house.
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: There's regulations everywhere for everything. It's just over-regulated.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: Well, didn't the government buy a lot of that land
- 1:00:55or are they trying to buy that land right now
- 1:00:56in the Palisades?
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: I don't think it's government. I think there was people
- 1:01:00that were interested in doing like low-income housing and then
- 1:01:06there was like whether they were going to carve out
- 1:01:08things without their speculators. And there's that famous video of
- 1:01:11Newsom standing in front of the rubble of a burning
- 1:01:13house going, There's been some discussions. He's doing that little dance.
- 1:01:17Remember that?
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: What a sociopath. What a freaky dude.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: He's running for president. There's no way he's not.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, good luck, dude.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: He's absolutely running for president.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: Good luck, dude. You think there's a lot of fucking
- 1:01:28fraud in Minnesota? Just wait till they start digging deep
- 1:01:31into the fraud in California. It's going to take an
- 1:01:34army of people to do. It's going to take a
- 1:01:37long time. But look, man, there's so much money missing.
- 1:01:42They spent $ 24 billion on the homeless and they can't
- 1:01:47account for it. Is it true that Gavin– let's find
- 1:01:51out this because I saw this whole article about this
- 1:01:54that said Gavin Newsom vetoed a bill that would do
- 1:01:57an audit of where the $ 24 billion to the homeless went.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: Well, if their goal was to create more homeless with
- 1:02:03that money, they did a great job. They did a
- 1:02:04great job. They did a fantastic job.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: The crazy thing is they're literally incentivized to have more
- 1:02:09homeless because the more homeless people they have, the more
- 1:02:11money they get.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: The money goes.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: Yep. which is what? And then you see the salaries
- 1:02:15of the people that are working on it. Coleon Noir,
- 1:02:18my friend that's a Second Amendment advocate who's a lawyer,
- 1:02:22he was the first guy to tell me about that
- 1:02:23because he's a lawyer and he was in San Francisco
- 1:02:25and he was like, why is there so many homeless
- 1:02:27people here? It's like, do they need more money? And
- 1:02:29his friend who was a lawyer goes.
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: This whole thing is a racket. The more homeless people
- 1:02:36you have, the more you have to fund the homeless
- 1:02:37initiative and then you have this entire ecosystem that's built
- 1:02:41around The homeless.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: Right. And it's just money is going to executives.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: Millions and millions of dollars. In California, $ 24 billion. Okay.
- 1:02:49David Spade was talking about it. This really happened. He
- 1:02:52blocked bills for an audit multiple times. Bipartisan bill AB2903
- 1:02:55unanimously passed 72 to 0 in the assembly, 40 to
- 1:02:580 in the senate. And would have forced annual public
- 1:03:07reports on where the money went. And Newsom vetoed it.
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: Is there no system in the state? Because it's like
- 1:03:12if the president vetoes at a federal level, I'm pretty
- 1:03:16sure if it goes back to the Senate or the House,
- 1:03:20they can do a two-thirds vote to pass it anyway.
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: I don't understand.
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: There is legislative ways to override a veto.
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: This veto?
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: Federally.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: I don't know about a state level. It says Gavin
- 1:03:31Newsom also vetoed similar bills. AB 2570 and AB 2093. Wow.
- 1:03:41That is crazy.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: Hey, that money's just gone.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: $ 20 billion plus in missing homeless money went. That is
- 1:03:50really wild, man, that you would veto that, that it
- 1:03:53passes unanimously. And you're like, nah, playa.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: That's fucking gangster, dude.
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: That's why you become a governor. It's probably a good
- 1:04:01move if you're a really shitty mayor of a place
- 1:04:05like San Francisco and you ruin it. But it'd be
- 1:04:06the governor. Yeah. Tighten up.
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: And stop the investigation.
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: Stop all the fucking loopholes.
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: You know, that's what I would call that good gameplay
- 1:04:14on Newsom's part.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: That is what you're doing.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: I like looking at politics from an outside perspective. That's
- 1:04:20some good gameplay right there. If it's a game, that's
- 1:04:22exactly what you should do.
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: Great moves.
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: It's a great move.
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: Yeah, and now you sort of can launch yourself as
- 1:04:27this anti-Trump guy and you're like– it's trying to get
- 1:04:31on this pod.
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: The problem with that dude is– The presidential run is coming.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: He lies so much he doesn't remember that he lied. Like,
- 1:04:39he gets busted on, like, we've never used the term
- 1:04:41Latinx because Latinos do not like that Latinx bullshit.
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: No.
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: You want to fucking alienate the Mexican-American community? Yeah. Start
- 1:04:51calling them Latinx. They're like, bitch, what the fuck are
- 1:04:54you saying?
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: Well, that's fundamentally.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: It's a gendered language.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fundamentally against their language.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: Yes. That's the whole point.
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: There are female and male things in their language.
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: It's a gendered language.
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Latinx crap. Crazy.
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: Stop.
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: The really crazy thing is, you know, we were talking
- 1:05:12last night with Jimmy Carr's friend.
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: What was his name? I forgot his name.
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: Sorry, sir. Fun guy. Interesting guy. But we got to
- 1:05:21talking about the different people that lived in America before
- 1:05:28Columbus got here and before Cortez got here and before.
- 1:05:31All these Spanish explorers turn the entire country into a
- 1:05:35Spanish-speaking Catholic country, which is really nuts, man. You want
- 1:05:39to talk about colonizing. Like those people in Mexico, oh,
- 1:05:44we respect their religion, their culture. That's the culture of
- 1:05:47their oppressors from just a few hundred years ago. They
- 1:05:51lost a hundred different native languages, man. They had so
- 1:05:55many languages in what is now Mexico, but wasn't even
- 1:05:59Mexico until 1820. Like whatever it was, whatever they called
- 1:06:03it in the different areas, they had like over 100
- 1:06:06different languages. Lost in the wind because the fucking conquistadors
- 1:06:10came through.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: Yeah. And outnumbered they were able to do that. Bro.
- 1:06:15This is crazy.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: Way outnumbered.
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: Crazy.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: Bro, they had 13 muskets. That's all they had. 600 dudes,
- 1:06:2213 muskets. They burned the boats and took over Mexico.
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: Crazy.
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: Crazy.
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: Crazy.
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: Just the gift of gab, too. Just able to convince
- 1:06:31Montezuma that they were God.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: Well, they showed up with metal. Yeah, that's a fair point.
- 1:06:35They're wearing armor and they're riding horses. They're like, this
- 1:06:37is crazy. These guys are riding horses?
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: And there's like a famous, what was it, La Malinche?
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: It was like a female native to the area who
- 1:06:47helped them take them down.
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: Oh, there's quite a few people that helped them. They
- 1:06:50were very clever what they did because there wasn't united
- 1:06:53tribes because the Aztecs were absolutely brutal. One of the
- 1:06:58Spanish chroniclers, some– I forget his name, something Diaz, but
- 1:07:08one of these Spanish chroniclers before the arrival of Cortez,
- 1:07:12he was there at the celebration of the completion of
- 1:07:17one of the temples. I think it was Tenochtitlan. And
- 1:07:20they killed somewhere between 20,000 as the low end and 80,000
- 1:07:25as the high end. 20,000 to 80,000 people sacrificed in
- 1:07:27a four-day ceremony.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: That's pretty gangster.
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: So these are the people that were there. So those
- 1:07:38are not loved people. Right, right. So it was really
- 1:07:41easy for them to get the other tribes and go, hey, guys,
- 1:07:44we got horses. We got 13 muskets. With your help.
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: We can take them down.
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: We can speak Spanish.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: Carnitas.
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: That's so wild.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: It is a fucking Mexican word, but it's a Spanish word.
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: It's like the language. They had names like North American,
- 1:08:02Native American names.
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: Like one guy was a cacao lightning god. That was
- 1:08:08his name. I did a whole bunch of research on
- 1:08:10these people because I just got fascinated because one of
- 1:08:13the things about the Aztecs is a lot of these
- 1:08:17like super complex temples, they didn't build them. They found them.
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. We talk about like– They.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: Called it the place where the gods were born.
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: These sort of like civilizations that like clearly probably existed before.
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: Because this is something that I think about is like, okay,
- 1:08:37so do you know.
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: The story of the Achaemenid Persian Empire like succession?
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: I don't know it in detail, but I'm aware of
- 1:08:46a lot of it.
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: So you have Cyrus. He has two kids, Cambyses and Bardia.
- 1:08:52He splits up the realm between the two. Cambyses goes
- 1:08:55off to conquer Egypt, but he's like, well, Bardiya is popular,
- 1:09:00so let me secretly kill him and then go off
- 1:09:02to Egypt. A Magi priest then impersonates Bardiya, takes over.
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: The Achaemenid Persian Empire. He is the ruler now.
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: Cambyses sort of dies on the way back mysteriously. And
- 1:09:18then a Achaemenid nobleman named Darius is like, hey, this
- 1:09:23is a Magi imposter.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: Kills Bardia. He's now ruling.
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: Darius leads the Achaemenid Persian Empire to be as big
- 1:09:31as it can be. And he's the father of Xerxes,
- 1:09:33the bad guy in 300.
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:09:37Speaker 3: But that is the only official narrative story we have
- 1:09:40that's from a primary source. And the only reason we
- 1:09:45have that is because Darius carved that story in himself
- 1:09:48into a rock relief. It's called the Behistun Relief. So
- 1:09:51that story is basically propaganda. But then 50 years later,
- 1:09:55it gets picked up by Herodotus and that becomes the
- 1:09:57story of the Ascension.
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: Right. There's no other primary source on what happened there.
- 1:10:01You just have to take Darius's word for it.
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah.
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: And that's in the fifth century. And the only reason
- 1:10:07we know that is because someone carved it into a rock.
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: Right?
- 1:10:11Speaker 3: Like we're not carving anything in the rocks now.
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: So if– yeah.
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: So if something– let's say like something happens to the
- 1:10:18internet tomorrow and it disappears and then our civilization just
- 1:10:20vanishes off the earth. A couple people survive and they
- 1:10:24build a whole new civilization.
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: There's all those lines. Is that writing or is that erosion?
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: I believe that's writing.
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: I haven't really– Go back to that primary– the original– okay.
- 1:10:34I think it's writing. It looks like cuneiform.
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: And it's the way it's, yeah. But that's the only
- 1:10:43reason we know something that happened from that time is.
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: Because this exists.
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: And we have no idea if it's true.
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: Yeah, we have no idea if it's true. But no
- 1:10:49one's even carving anything into stone for us.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Look at it.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: Yeah. There's no way.
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: How dope is that language?
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: Look how cool that looks. Look how cool that looks.
- 1:10:59That's how people used to write things.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: Down, man.
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: Right. Can AI, like, find... There's got to be some
- 1:11:06of these– like I know there's one from Easter Island
- 1:11:09that they can't decipher. Have you ever seen that one? No.
- 1:11:13Graham Hancock explained it. And what he said was essentially
- 1:11:17the island– it was a very small island. They got
- 1:11:18raided by slavers and they took everyone except for like
- 1:11:22100 people. And the people that they took and enslaved,
- 1:11:24they were the ones who knew how to read this
- 1:11:26language and then this language was lost forever.
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: There's one piece of like wood where– yeah, that's it.
- 1:11:33where it's written on, look how dope their language looks. Like,
- 1:11:37zoom in on like, how crazy is that, man? Like,
- 1:11:40what are they saying? And we don't know. Like, I
- 1:11:44wonder if they could throw that through AI and get
- 1:11:47sort of an understanding of what these symbols, but you'd
- 1:11:49have to have a base, like, that was the thing
- 1:11:51about the Rosetta Stone. The Rosetta Stone really helped people
- 1:11:54in Egypt because you're like, oh, this is how it's
- 1:11:56written in Greek. And this is, okay, now we know
- 1:11:59what it's said in multiple languages.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: Now we get an understanding of it. Yeah.
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: But so the overall point being, though, is like in
- 1:12:08our time, if the Internet disappears and we're gone, there's
- 1:12:12nothing from this time that's really being recorded.
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: It'll just be lost. Oh, yeah. All the hard drive
- 1:12:17stuff gone.
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: Yeah. Just be lost.
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: We'll have to relearn things.
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:12:20Speaker 3: But our time, the Americans, they'll just be some ancient
- 1:12:23thing that people might not know ever existed.
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: It says about the it's called the wrong. Rongorongo, a
- 1:12:32glyph-based script from Easter Island, remains undeciphered despite over a
- 1:12:37century of study. Imagine you're studying it for a century.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: You can't figure.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: Out the language.
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: People's whole lives have been dedicated to this.
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: No one knows exactly what it says, as all attempts
- 1:12:45to translate it fully have failed, with scholars debating if
- 1:12:48it's true writing or proto-writing used as a memory aid.
- 1:12:53A memory aid.
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: Yeah, lines alternate direction, often upside down. Oh, so that's
- 1:12:57so hard. Even the direction is.
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: Ever-changing. You're not writing right to left. You're just kind
- 1:13:03of going wherever you want with it.
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: What is the latest on the Voynich manuscripts? Has anybody
- 1:13:08thrown that through AI to try to see if it
- 1:13:10makes any sense? Do you know about that?
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: Yeah. Were they found on a guy? Was that one
- 1:13:14of them?
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: No, it's some weird book. And the question is whether
- 1:13:19or not this book is just complete gibberish and nonsense
- 1:13:22or whether it's some lost language. And it's really detailed, too.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: What was it found?
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: It's a good question. I don't remember. Published Nobby Cipher,
- 1:13:34is that what it's called? Published November 26, 2025 in
- 1:13:39Cryptologia by science journalist Michael Greshko introduced the Nobby Cipher,
- 1:13:46which uses 14th century Italian playing cards and dice to
- 1:13:50encode Latin or Italian text into glyphs mimicking dice. The
- 1:13:53Voynich manuscripts, Voynichese. This cipher replicates key statistical features like
- 1:14:00glyph frequencies, word lengths, grammar rules suggesting a similar medieval
- 1:14:06method could have generated the original 15th century text, although
- 1:14:09it does not decode it.
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: Have you seen it? See if you can find images
- 1:14:15of it.
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: It's freaky. Where was it found? That's what I'm curious about.
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: That's a really good question.
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: Let's find that out now.
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: The Voynich Ninja. There's like groups dedicated to this.
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: People are obsessed with it. I mean, they've been studying.
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: This is a fun thing to be obsessed with.
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: Just do me a favor and just go back to
- 1:14:29perplexity and say, how was it discovered? Yeah.
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: I'm curious.
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: Because I feel like someone had it and someone bought
- 1:14:40it from someone. I thought.
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: I could have been wrong. I thought it was found
- 1:14:44on a body. I could be wrong about that. I
- 1:14:47might be thinking of another thing.
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: It was rediscovered in 1912 by Polish-American rare books dealer
- 1:14:52Wilfrid Voynich. Okay. He named it himself. What a clever guy.
- 1:14:55I like that.
- 1:14:56Speaker 2: Fuck it. Something of mine survived.
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: It's mine, bitch.
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: They say you die. The second time you die is
- 1:15:00when someone says your name last, so we're just keeping
- 1:15:01him alive.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: He acquired it from the Jesuit college in Frascati, Italy,
- 1:15:09as a part of a batch of 30 manuscripts discreetly
- 1:15:11sold amidst the Jesuits' financial difficulties. How many of these
- 1:15:15motherfuckers in the Vatican are sitting on some shit that
- 1:15:18they don't have to sell?
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That would, like, change the world completely. Yeah.
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: Carbon dating places its creation around 1404 to 1438, likely
- 1:15:26in northern Italy. Emperor Rudolf II bought it in the
- 1:15:32late 1500s for 600 gold ducats, possibly from John Dee.
- 1:15:38It later passed to Jacobus. How about this guy's name?
- 1:15:41Jacobus Horsiki Depenex.
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: I taste in European stuff.
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: That feels like. Depenex. But you can't even. It looks
- 1:15:51like Hungarian. The problem is there's some names like Ioana Janjacek.
- 1:15:55If you saw the way it's written. written. There's no
- 1:15:57way you would pronounce it correctly.
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: Any of those Eastern European names, it's like how did
- 1:16:00you even get that?
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Stayed in Jesuit hands until 1912. He publicized the Undeciphered Codex,
- 1:16:06now at Yale's Beinecke Library, sparking global interest despite failed
- 1:16:13decoding attempts. Pull up some images of it so you
- 1:16:17can see what it looks like. It's real weird, man.
- 1:16:20It's real weird and it has detailed illustrations.
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: Of like plants and stuff.
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. Here's a little video. So you
- 1:16:28can see how cool it looks when they're opening up
- 1:16:30the book. Anything that you're getting that's a book that's
- 1:16:33from the fucking 1400s. 1200? When is it from?
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: 1500s? So 1400s.
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: Any book that you're getting from the 1400s is fucking
- 1:16:44wild as it is. Just imagine these fucking people living
- 1:16:48back then, writing this shit down with a feather.
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: Just touching it with her bare hands, huh?
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to. It's actually worse to do it
- 1:16:55with gloves.
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: Really?
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: Yeah, they found out that gloves, the rubber is more abrasive.
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: Than your finger?
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: The oils of your finger is actually more protective or
- 1:17:04something along those lines. Wow. Look how cool that looks, though. Yeah.
- 1:17:07And they don't know if that's a real language. That's
- 1:17:10what's nuts. You can't decode it.
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: This is a good YouTube rabbit hole.
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: It's a good one.
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: It's an interesting one because- People say it's a hoax,
- 1:17:19but the thing about it is if it's a hoax,
- 1:17:21it's like really well done and very complex and like
- 1:17:25incredible amount of time.
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: The fact that it's still tripping up people now, it's
- 1:17:29like this all time great hoax then.
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: Sort of. But think about how many languages we've lost.
- 1:17:34Like we just talked about a hundred languages were lost
- 1:17:36somewhere around that in what is now considered Mexico. Now,
- 1:17:40you know, think about the rest of the world. Like
- 1:17:42here's another instance. Um, mobs of indigenous people in Australia,
- 1:17:48the aborigines.
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: So they call themselves mobs and that, you know, instead
- 1:17:52of a tribe.
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: And, um, they have mobs that will live six, 10
- 1:17:57kilometers away that speak a completely different language and they're
- 1:18:01all over the place and they don't have these things
- 1:18:04written anywhere. So there's a bunch of their languages that
- 1:18:07are just spoken orally and just disappear and they will disappear.
- 1:18:11And we don't know how many languages there are. Like
- 1:18:14my friend Adam Greentree, he used to own a mining
- 1:18:16company in Australia and he employed a lot of Aborigines
- 1:18:20and he knows a lot about the culture. And he
- 1:18:22was like, dude, it's the craziest history because a lot
- 1:18:26of it is not written down and there's a lot
- 1:18:28of horrible tragedy and genocide attached to it. There's a
- 1:18:32cave that you can go to where they gave this
- 1:18:35mob of Aborigines poison food on purpose, like a whole
- 1:18:38crew of them. And so there's like just their bones
- 1:18:41are in this cave still to this day. He goes, dude,
- 1:18:43it's the darkest fucking thing you've ever seen in your life.
- 1:18:45You think about this family and their children, they're starving,
- 1:18:49and these people, these you know, white people in Australia
- 1:18:52were essentially prisoners that England shipped over there.
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: Just gave them poison.
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: And just, damn.
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: Damn. Damn. Damn.
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: Damn.
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: And they got, bro, they got some crazy rock art.
- 1:19:06You ever see the glyphs of alien-looking dudes and shit?
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: Yeah, there's people that look like they're on rocket ships
- 1:19:14and spacesuits.
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: What information, what stories, what is their version of the
- 1:19:18Bible that we missed?
- 1:19:20Speaker 3: Because they never wrote it down. Yeah, there's something to
- 1:19:22do with a large flood. That seems to be consistent.
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: To hope he had that.
- 1:19:26Speaker 3: Yeah, something to do with a large flood and something
- 1:19:28to do with some sort of either dragon or serpent
- 1:19:30type bad guy. Those are the two main consistent things
- 1:19:37across most cultures, some large flood event and some snake.
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's all.
- 1:19:44Speaker 3: And I wonder what the snake in the Bible really
- 1:19:46looked like because in the Adam and Eve story, anytime
- 1:19:48you see a picture painted of it, it's painted as
- 1:19:51a snake. But the snake's punishment was it lost its limbs.
- 1:19:55So this was a dragon.
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:19:59Speaker 3: Right, because the snake's punishment was it has to slither
- 1:20:02on the ground.
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: But is that the snake's punishment forever? Is that, like,
- 1:20:06why God did that to the snakes, period?
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: I think so. I think that's the whole— Right, but
- 1:20:11doesn't that.
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: Just explain what a snake looks like rather than describe
- 1:20:15a dragon? Like, why does it have limbs? God took
- 1:20:18away its limbs.
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: Mm. Okay, I see what you're saying. Maybe it's reversed.
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: It seems like it's reversed.
- 1:20:23Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I just really wanted to be a dragon.
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like, how come they don't get to
- 1:20:27have legs?
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: How come you don't get to have wings, bitch? You know?
- 1:20:33Because if you really think about it, like, there are
- 1:20:36so many different stories. This is why, like, you know,
- 1:20:39The View, like, that's that famous Joy Behar clip where
- 1:20:42she said, he believes in dragons.
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: Great clip.
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awesome.
- 1:20:45Speaker 2: Great clip.
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: It comes out of a conversation that I had with
- 1:20:47Forrest Gallant, who's a wildlife biologist, who's like, There's a
- 1:20:51lot of depictions of these flying serpents and large serpents
- 1:20:56with wings all over the world. It's weird.
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: It is really weird.
- 1:21:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a thing.
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: It's really weird. And we know some dinosaurs flew.
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: So there might have been some. Do you think there's
- 1:21:07some sort of cross?
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The Congo has had a legend
- 1:21:13of some sort of a large dinosaur-like creature forever. To
- 1:21:18the point where explorers have made their way into the
- 1:21:20Congo to try to find this thing that resembles– I
- 1:21:23think it resembles a brontosaurus.
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: That could fly?
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: No, no, no. That was in the jungle. So the
- 1:21:30question is, is it possible that a creature could live
- 1:21:35for an extended period of time and then maybe in
- 1:21:39the 1100s or 1,000 years ago or 2,000 years ago,
- 1:21:42they slaughtered them all and killed them off? Like maybe
- 1:21:45they have a long gestation period like an elephant.
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: Maybe.
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: Maybe it's possible they realized these things were a threat.
- 1:21:51They knew where they'd end up. There was a small
- 1:21:53population anywhere and they killed them off.
- 1:21:55Speaker 2: Maybe.
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: Maybe. It's not likely. There's no bones. There's no nothing.
- 1:22:01But there's no bones of most things. That's the thing.
- 1:22:04Most things that die do not leave a fossil. And
- 1:22:07then they find things that they thought were extinct. Not
- 1:22:11just extinct but extinct for millions and millions of years.
- 1:22:14One of them is the coelacanth. You know about the coelacanth? No.
- 1:22:17So the coelacanth is this crazy-looking dinosaur fish that is
- 1:22:23unchanged from, God, I want to say tens of millions
- 1:22:28of years. I don't know how old. But when you
- 1:22:30look at it, you're like, yo, look at that thing.
- 1:22:32And then they caught one once. They caught it. I
- 1:22:35don't know if it was a fishing net or a
- 1:22:37fishing boat, but they caught one. And then they realize, like, oh,
- 1:22:40my God, these things are still alive. Like, we thought
- 1:22:42this was a part of the fossil record.
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: Damn.
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: And then they realize that there's parts of the ocean
- 1:22:47that we just haven't explored and these things. And then
- 1:22:49they've caught a bunch of them since. And then other
- 1:22:52fishermen have caught them. But it's a very deep, deep
- 1:22:55sea creature that is really ancient. How old is the coelacanth? Like,
- 1:23:00how long has it been around for? Man. I hope
- 1:23:06I'm saying the word right.
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: That's so wild to not find one for years and
- 1:23:08then all of a sudden you just find a bunch.
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: Well, they found a few. Well, now that they know
- 1:23:12they exist, they're looking in that area.
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: They kind of know what to look for.
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: And then they're fishing in that area and they caught them.
- 1:23:16But can you show me an image of the coelacanth?
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: Oh, I think there's a YouTube channel that I think
- 1:23:22you'd really like called like– I think it's called– it
- 1:23:26just goes and looks through what the earth looked like
- 1:23:32in different eras.
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: So that's that freaky fish.
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I've seen this.
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: It's armored. It's got, like, these crazy scales on it.
- 1:23:38It just... It looks like a throwback. So, three... Hold up,
- 1:23:45go up. Relatives being the first left seas, 385... Okay. So,
- 1:23:52they're not our direct ancestors, but they're still relatives of
- 1:23:55beings that first left the seas. They left the sea
- 1:23:58385 million years ago and became four-legged terrestrial animals.
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: Damn, and this is, like, this is, like, a common link?
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: So... What they're saying is there's creatures that left– so
- 1:24:08something like that left the sea 385 million years ago
- 1:24:12and became four-legged terrestrial animals from which we sprung. And
- 1:24:16these relatives are still alive today. So how long has
- 1:24:19the coelacanth been around? So it says in 1938, floating
- 1:24:28off the South African coast in the Indian Ocean, fishermen
- 1:24:31from the urban caught an unknown creature. weighed 188 pounds,
- 1:24:35five feet in length, dark blue in color, and unabashedly
- 1:24:40chomped its jaws. This was not a fish, not just
- 1:24:44any fish, it had scales, fins, and limbs, or more precisely,
- 1:24:48rudiments thereof. Moreover, there were seven of them, two in
- 1:24:53the back, three on the belly, and another pair on
- 1:24:56the head. They had limbs on their head?
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: Whoa.
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: Damn. Should we know the local population occasionally caught these
- 1:25:01creatures that didn't even come up with a name for them, gombessa,
- 1:25:05which can be translated as bitter fish.
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: Love that. Just eat it first. Find out later.
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: The residents knew that it was nearly inedible. It was
- 1:25:12consumed due to the belief that its meat helped to
- 1:25:14cope with malaria symptoms. Yo. Although it was possible to
- 1:25:18make something like sandpaper from the extremely strong and bristly scales.
- 1:25:22So when did they think, when, look at what it
- 1:25:25looked like. That's crazy.
- 1:25:27Speaker 2: That's, that's wild.
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: That thing looks scary.
- 1:25:31Speaker 2: It looks like a monster.
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: With all those weird appendages.
- 1:25:34Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: Eventually made its way onto the shore.
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: Nuts, man. How long ago was that? Like, how long
- 1:25:42did they think that thing had been extinct for?
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: You'd have to look that up.
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: Yeah. Just put into perplexity the history of the coelacanth. Okay,
- 1:26:00here we go. How old is this motherfucker? 420 million years. Wow.
- 1:26:07Speaker 2: Rediscovered. Damn, bro.
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: That's wild.
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: They thought it had been extinct for 66 million years.
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: And it was just living.
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: Whoa.
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: Dude, to live that long, that's pretty crazy.
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: That's incredible. Yeah, that's... That's incredible. So, this thing... That
- 1:26:28was alive 400 million years ago is still alive today.
- 1:26:31They thought it was extinct for 68 million years. Is
- 1:26:34it possible that there's something else like that that's on land?
- 1:26:38Like less likely, I think. I think ocean is more likely.
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: Well, it's more undiscovered, right?
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: Not just that. It's also like more protective of environmental change, right?
- 1:26:48So it's probably less dependent on all that. Like especially
- 1:26:52if you're a sea predator. You're probably less dependent on
- 1:26:56all the plants growing and nuclear winter that's happening on
- 1:26:59the fucking surface. Right. Where everything dies off and the
- 1:27:01ice age comes and it's fucking meteor dust everywhere. Right.
- 1:27:05You can survive.
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: You can survive a lot of stuff like climate change.
- 1:27:07You're not worried about that really.
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: Probably you are, but it's probably something– more things would
- 1:27:13probably survive in the ocean I would imagine.
- 1:27:15Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes more sense.
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: Like how old are alligators and crocodiles?
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: Aren't they like, aren't like, isn't like, aren't like sharks
- 1:27:21older than trees or something?
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: Older than trees.
- 1:27:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: Older than trees.
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: It's such a mind fuck to think about.
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:27:27Speaker 2: Yeah. There's something could be older than trees.
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: Yeah. And they still are essentially in the same form.
- 1:27:33Mm hmm. Just fucking swimming, eating machines.
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: Apex predators forever.
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: You hear about that lady off Santa Cruz that got
- 1:27:39got the other day?
- 1:27:40Speaker 3: No, but have you read that book about the I
- 1:27:42read that book about the shark attacks in 1916?
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. New Jersey.
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: Yeah. Close to shore where it's like, oh, damn.
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: Like a river.
- 1:27:48Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:27:48Speaker 2: It went in a freshwater river.
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: But they also didn't think sharks were dangerous at that time.
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: Like that was– in that time, there were people like, oh, sharks,
- 1:27:58they're just like sea puppies.
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: They'll leave you alone. That was the thought.
- 1:28:01Speaker 3: Part of the reason why that stuck out to people
- 1:28:04were like, oh, sharks are like dangerous creatures.
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: Especially bull sharks because bull sharks are the ones that
- 1:28:09can swim all the way up to– like they made
- 1:28:12their way to Illinois.
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, and they're just as– they're more aggressive than
- 1:28:15the great whites, right?
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. They're hyper-aggressive. But they make their way all
- 1:28:19the way up freshwater rivers, all the way up into
- 1:28:22like cold environments. Fucking Illinois had bull sharks in fresh water.
- 1:28:27Speaker 2: Just a fresh water shark. It's just, how bad luck
- 1:28:31do you, how much of a bad luck do you
- 1:28:33have to be in a river and get attacked by
- 1:28:35a shark? It was your time to go.
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: You got your legs dangling out of an inner tube.
- 1:28:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: Just all of a sudden you feel this sharp pain
- 1:28:43and you see red in the water and you realize
- 1:28:44your legs gone.
- 1:28:45Speaker 3: Yeah it takes you a second to realize your leg
- 1:28:47is gone too because it's so sharp and so yeah.
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: Slices through and you don't expect it.
- 1:28:51Speaker 2: Geez yeah well we're not expecting a shark in the lake.
- 1:28:54Speaker 1: And you look down you see the white of your
- 1:28:56kneecap everything underneath it is just torn tissue and Fuck.
- 1:29:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:29:01Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:29:01Speaker 2: They didn't think it was dangerous at the time like that.
- 1:29:04Isn't that crazy? That's so wild.
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: It's so wild.
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: All the way up until 1960.
- 1:29:07Speaker 3: In fact, some people thought sharks were just something that
- 1:29:09sailors made up.
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: Whoa.
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:29:12Speaker 3: Just like, oh, this giant sea creature that'll eat you.
- 1:29:14They don't know what they're talking about.
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: Like, this is just a sea myth.
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: Well, it's also when you think about it, when people
- 1:29:19came to America, because there's no sharks in England. There's
- 1:29:22no sharks in Ireland. Right. They don't have a problem
- 1:29:24over there. So when they came to America, there was only, like,
- 1:29:29We're talking about this shark attack was in the early 1900s, right? Yes, 1916.
- 1:29:34So think about that. There's only like a couple hundred
- 1:29:36years of people even being here.
- 1:29:38Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: And that year was like a perfect storm of like
- 1:29:42the beach became like an acceptable thing to go lounge at.
- 1:29:46Speaker 2: Before that, it wasn't a thing.
- 1:29:49Speaker 5: Tried to twist it to say that it was trying
- 1:29:50to attack a dog not the person.
- 1:29:53Speaker 3: No It does lay out certain things like if you
- 1:29:59are swimming with a dog you're more likely to get
- 1:30:01attacked by a shark And it's like something like a
- 1:30:05full moon like the moon really regulates sharks emotions So
- 1:30:08like more shark attacks happen on full moons. Oh, there's
- 1:30:11certain things. Yeah, apparently having the dog. They never attack
- 1:30:14the dog. Oh But the dog attracts the– something about
- 1:30:18how they.
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: Swim attacks the shark.
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: Dogs don't get killed by sharks?
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: They will attack the person. Really?
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 1:30:25Speaker 4: Wow.
- 1:30:25Speaker 2: The book lays it out. There is something– there is
- 1:30:27like a.
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: Coordinate– like there are a bunch of different factors that
- 1:30:33sort of apply to that.
- 1:30:34Speaker 2: Whoa. Mm-hmm.
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything alive right now that is dinosaur-like.
- 1:30:42But I wonder how long they stuck around for. How
- 1:30:46long some of them stayed?
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: Just the last vegetables.
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: If crocodiles and alligators didn't exist, like let's just imagine
- 1:30:53crocodiles didn't exist, the big ones, the Nile crocodiles. Let's
- 1:30:56imagine no one thought there was a crocodile. It's nonsense.
- 1:30:59And then one day someone got a video of one
- 1:31:02in the Congo. You'd be like, no, dinosaurs are real.
- 1:31:06That's a dinosaur. That is a straight up dinosaur.
- 1:31:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a giant lizard. That is technically what's left.
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: This dude, Josh Bomar, he's a bow hunter and he
- 1:31:17just killed a world record crocodile. And I think it
- 1:31:19was in Tanzania. Actually, I think he might have did
- 1:31:22it like two years ago. This thing is so big.
- 1:31:27I think it's like 17 feet long and it's probably
- 1:31:32over 100 years old. He killed it with a bow.
- 1:31:35Look at the size of that thing.
- 1:31:36Speaker 2: Good God.
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: Now. Imagine if that thing didn't exist. If no one
- 1:31:41thought that that thing existed.
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: And then you saw that.
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: And then you saw that.
- 1:31:44Speaker 2: You'd be like, yeah, that's a monster that I saw.
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: Like, look at the size of that thing, man. Like,
- 1:31:50if nobody went to Tanzania ever. If it was just
- 1:31:53a place that no one went to. And then people
- 1:31:56went there and they saw that. They're like, oh, my God,
- 1:31:58dinosaurs are still alive.
- 1:31:59Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: Because that's a fucking dinosaur.
- 1:32:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: Period. Full stop.
- 1:32:03Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be absolutely afraid of that.
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: You can call it a crocodile, whatever. It's a species
- 1:32:07of dinosaurs that made it. It's still here. Like, when
- 1:32:11did crocodiles first evolve?
- 1:32:15Speaker 5: 83 to 95 million years ago, late Cretaceous.
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: Younger than the coelacanth.
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:32:19Speaker 5: Up to 250 million years ago.
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: Still younger than the coelacanth.
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: Well, it's probably the ancestor that came to shore and
- 1:32:25started eating shit. If everything came out of the ocean, allegedly.
- 1:32:31Speaker 3: Okay, there is something. There's something that I do. It's
- 1:32:34like a gratefulness thing that I do. This is like
- 1:32:37a big moment for me in my career. I just
- 1:32:38released a special. I'm walking away from it. I'm not
- 1:32:42working social media at the club anymore. I'm making steps out.
- 1:32:45This is a YouTube video that I watch. Every time something, like,
- 1:32:49sort of big happens to me, or, like, I'm on
- 1:32:51a crossroads, and it's, have you ever seen this Mr.
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: Rogers Emmy acceptance speech? Have you seen this?
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: No.
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: Okay. Can we pull that up, Jamie?
- 1:32:59Speaker 3: And it's, like, a three-minute video, but, like, genuinely, because
- 1:33:03I'm going to do it, too, I want you to
- 1:33:04do what he says.
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It's just a quick little thing.
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm, yeah, yeah.
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: Let's see it. Yeah.
- 1:33:28Speaker 6: For giving generation upon generation of children confidence in themselves,
- 1:33:34for being their friend, for telling them again and again
- 1:33:40and again that they are special and that they have worth.
- 1:33:44It is my honor on behalf of everyone here and
- 1:33:48on behalf of the millions of children whose mornings you
- 1:33:52have brightened with your kindness to present you with this
- 1:33:55Lifetime Achievement Award.
- 1:34:10Speaker 4: Oh, it's a beautiful night in this neighborhood. So many
- 1:34:17people have helped me to come to this night. Some
- 1:34:20of you are here, some are far away, some are
- 1:34:25even in heaven. All of us have special ones who
- 1:34:30have loved us into being. Would you just take, along
- 1:34:35with me, ten seconds to think of the people who
- 1:34:40have helped you become who you are, those who have
- 1:34:46cared about you and wanted what was best for you
- 1:34:50in life. 10 seconds of silence.
- 1:34:54Speaker 2: I'll watch the time.
- 1:35:10Speaker 4: Whomever you've been thinking about, how pleased they must be
- 1:35:15to know the difference you feel they've made. You know,
- 1:35:19they're the kind of people television does well to offer
- 1:35:24our world. Special thanks to my family and friends and
- 1:35:30to my coworkers in public broadcasting, family communications, and this
- 1:35:36academy for encouraging me allowing me all.
- 1:35:42Speaker 5: These years to be your neighbor. May God be with you.
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: Thank you very much. He seemed like the real deal.
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: I'm glad nothing ever came out about him.
- 1:35:55Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, right? He wasn't like a Jimmy Savile.
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: I'm happy he was the real deal. He really does
- 1:36:00seem like he is.
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: Who'd you think about?
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: Oh, do I want to say it publicly?
- 1:36:05Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have to. You know, family, personal people,
- 1:36:10you know.
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: But, you know, you and I in particular are very fortunate.
- 1:36:15We have a lot of people that help us be
- 1:36:17who we are.
- 1:36:17Speaker 4: Yes.
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: You know, and that is like the one thing that
- 1:36:21I think we really highlight at the club is that
- 1:36:25we really are all happy. We really are all lucky.
- 1:36:28And we really enjoy our time together.
- 1:36:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: Feet off of each other.
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: I'm so happy to like the way this I would
- 1:36:37say the scene is like incredibly, incredibly supportive of each
- 1:36:41other in a way that like it's nice, I guess,
- 1:36:43in this sort of new system that we live in, too,
- 1:36:45where like you can just make it on your own.
- 1:36:47You don't need like I'm not auditioning for a spot
- 1:36:50that like Fuzzy's auditioning for because we're both brown.
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like in the old days.
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:36:57Speaker 2: There's no reason for me to be like, damn, I
- 1:36:59hope he doesn't get this. Right. You know? It's a
- 1:37:02system of like, oh, dude, we can all just create
- 1:37:04and then help each other.
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: Like piggyback off each other. And it's such a refreshing
- 1:37:10experience to have.
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: It really is the rising tide lifts all boats. And
- 1:37:13that's how it should be.
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: And it happens everywhere, too, because obviously you're at the
- 1:37:17mothership and you see how hard the door guys there crush.
- 1:37:20But I'll go to Sunset. And Sunset has some fucking
- 1:37:24killers as door guys now, especially because like they came
- 1:37:27up in this experience where Sunset, you know, famously the
- 1:37:30ceilings are high and like the room can be cavernous,
- 1:37:33can feel cavernous when it's like tight. And so they
- 1:37:36come up in a harsher like mothership. The rooms are
- 1:37:39set up for comedy. Sunset, it never happened that way.
- 1:37:44The guy died before he could make it what he
- 1:37:46wanted to make it. And Redman came in and just
- 1:37:48sort of saved it so he can open at the
- 1:37:50very least. So it's like they come up in these
- 1:37:52harsh situations and like there's this one kid at Sunset.
- 1:37:55Speaker 2: His name is– well, kid is very funny to say.
- 1:37:57He's the grown man.
- 1:37:58Speaker 3: But Mumford Davis, he closes every single death squad, which
- 1:38:06is like 18 hours long. So he closes every single one,
- 1:38:10goes up in front of a tired beat audience. And
- 1:38:14now he's just an absolute monster.
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: Running with ankle weights on.
- 1:38:18Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:38:18Speaker 3: I mean, he's running with the biggest ankle weights on.
- 1:38:20To go at the end of that in that room.
- 1:38:21Speaker 2: They're tired. They've been there forever.
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: But you think about it. like that's how kinnison came
- 1:38:25up kinnison was the they that was the kinnison spot
- 1:38:29was the last spot at the or you know and
- 1:38:32right think about his style that's screaming yelling in your
- 1:38:35face that's designed to shock an audience back to life
- 1:38:39right just trying to keep going that's don barris that's
- 1:38:42brian holtzman Like, those guys that developed that act, they
- 1:38:46could just jolt you out of your complacency. It's kind
- 1:38:50of by necessity. Right.
- 1:38:52Speaker 2: How to just, like, keeping someone's attention.
- 1:38:55Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:38:56Speaker 3: Like, bringing it back is just so impressive. That's what
- 1:39:00I miss about the comedy stores. I left before I
- 1:39:02got passed, so I never got those, like, late-night OR spots.
- 1:39:06Those one-in-the-morning, six-people... Just survived. I mean, some of my
- 1:39:11best sets, favorite sets I've seen people have are in
- 1:39:13those spots. Damn, you really made this work.
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: Well, sometimes like reality shines through. Like they have a
- 1:39:20real moment on stage where the comedy is just like
- 1:39:24people like, oh, shit. Like I remember Laura Bites had
- 1:39:26a set one time and I even posted it. Me
- 1:39:29and Burt Kreischer sat in the back of the room
- 1:39:31and she crushed so hard. In front of, there was
- 1:39:33only like 25 people in the room.
- 1:39:34Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: And by the time she was off stage, there was
- 1:39:3650 people in the room because people were coming in
- 1:39:38from other places to come and watch her set.
- 1:39:40Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:39:40Speaker 2: When you hear that noise, you're like, okay, what's going
- 1:39:42on here?
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: She was just on fire. She was killing.
- 1:39:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:39:46Speaker 3: It's like those spots are nice because it's like, you know,
- 1:39:49your jokes, you have to work your jokes to get
- 1:39:51to a certain point where like my jokes are funny
- 1:39:53enough to showcase and work at the club.
- 1:39:55Speaker 2: And now that I'm at this level, I got the jokes. Now,
- 1:39:58can I be funny? Right.
- 1:40:00Speaker 3: You know, beyond like what my written, can I be
- 1:40:03just funny, me as a person?
- 1:40:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:40:05Speaker 3: You can kind of really hone that in those sort
- 1:40:08of late night tough rooms.
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to do those. Yeah.
- 1:40:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:40:12Speaker 3: And that's why, you know, the store at the end
- 1:40:14of the day, even through hard and like good times
- 1:40:16and tough times at the store, that's the reason why
- 1:40:18they always create monsters.
- 1:40:19Speaker 2: Yeah. The store creates monsters.
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: And Mitzi knew what she was doing. She had a
- 1:40:23method to her madness, and she tweaked it and got
- 1:40:27it to the perfect form. We essentially used a similar
- 1:40:29form here.
- 1:40:30Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like the method to make comedy happen.
- 1:40:34It's like just people in these tough spots over and
- 1:40:39over again.
- 1:40:40Speaker 2: Can you follow monsters?
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:40:42Speaker 3: Can you follow monsters? The best part about being at
- 1:40:45the ship is I've had to follow Theo and Shane
- 1:40:49and be like, damn. I just got to do this.
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:40:54Speaker 3: And then you have to follow, like, the emerging stars, too,
- 1:40:58because then they have a whole separate energy to them. Like,
- 1:41:00I remember following both Cam and James McCann after they
- 1:41:04both started, like, popping and being like, whoa. Just watching
- 1:41:07the energy around them shift.
- 1:41:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: Yeah. We lost McCann to Australia. I know.
- 1:41:12Speaker 2: He'll be back.
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: He's got to be back.
- 1:41:14Speaker 2: He'll be back.
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: I can't believe he had to go back.
- 1:41:17Speaker 2: So funny, though.
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: He's the best. He's one of my favorite guys out
- 1:41:21there because he's got such a unique– like it's his perspective.
- 1:41:25It's like you don't expect it. It's coming out of him.
- 1:41:28If you think the way he does, you get it.
- 1:41:30It's really smart, really funny.
- 1:41:32Speaker 2: High energy too.
- 1:41:34Speaker 3: Because usually the hyper-intelligent go low energy. It's very rare
- 1:41:42that a hyper-intelligent person who's intelligent on stage on purpose
- 1:41:45like he is goes high energy.
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:41:49Speaker 2: That's what makes him unique to me, too. Yeah.
- 1:41:52Speaker 3: It's because usually when comics are being smart on stage,
- 1:41:56and I'll do this, too, they go soft.
- 1:41:58Speaker 2: They go, look at me think. Mm-hmm.
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: McCann's like, I have the energy of I'm in a
- 1:42:04bar yelling at you, but it's about Kyrgyzstan.
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: Yeah, we're lucky, dude.
- 1:42:14Speaker 3: Yeah, the scene is thriving. Yeah, there's so many places
- 1:42:19to go. That's why I did mine at Black Rabbit.
- 1:42:21Just a small little black box room that's been like...
- 1:42:24I've had sets there and it's like 10 people and
- 1:42:27they're amazing.
- 1:42:28Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:42:29Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just there for comedy. A lot of them
- 1:42:31are like, they tend to be like these sort of
- 1:42:34just out of college kids. Who can't really afford to
- 1:42:36go to any of the clubs. They just have money
- 1:42:39for the first time. We're like, oh, we can go
- 1:42:40to this little spot. Like $ 10 tickets. Just get introduced
- 1:42:44to comedy. It's a bit of a younger audience there.
- 1:42:48Speaker 1: How many spots are just on our street?
- 1:42:50Speaker 2: On our street? Within our street.
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: Within close. You can count Cap City because it's one
- 1:42:56block over. Not Cap City, I'm sorry. Vulcan. No.
- 1:43:02Speaker 2: And Sunset.
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: Creek. Creek in the Cave.
- 1:43:03Speaker 2: Creek.
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: Creek in the Cave is one over.
- 1:43:05Speaker 3: In that area, you have Vulcan, Sunset, Creek, Velveeta, and
- 1:43:13then Bulls. These are bars that run comedy at least
- 1:43:16three to four times a week.
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: Bulls.
- 1:43:21Speaker 2: Oh, fuck.
- 1:43:21Speaker 3: I'm forgetting one of the places. I'm blanking on it now.
- 1:43:26Speaker 2: But Bulls, Black Rabbit.
- 1:43:29Speaker 3: If you want to count Roscoe's in East Austin, they're
- 1:43:31a little bit down the road, but they're still kind
- 1:43:32of in the downtown area.
- 1:43:34Speaker 2: So it's nine right there. Narbar, that's the one I
- 1:43:36was thinking about. That's ten.
- 1:43:37Speaker 3: Shakespeare's runs it a bunch, and Maggie Mae's runs it,
- 1:43:41I think, three times a week. So there's at least
- 1:43:4212 pretty much dedicated comedy rooms, and that's not including Mike's.
- 1:43:48Speaker 2: That's not including mics. Just in the area.
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: When you say mics, for people who don't know, you
- 1:43:51mean open mics.
- 1:43:52Speaker 2: Yeah, just open mics.
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: You're talking about booked clubs of professional comedians.
- 1:43:55Speaker 3: Yeah, these are shows with people. And some of them
- 1:43:58are rough bar shows, but they're shows and they're booked.
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:44:01Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can get on... There's so many ways
- 1:44:05to come up. Oh, you can walk.
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: You can walk.
- 1:44:08Speaker 2: I've had nights where I've had five sets and none
- 1:44:11of them were at the mothership.
- 1:44:13Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:44:13Speaker 2: You're just out and about. Yeah, it is.
- 1:44:17Speaker 3: it is so, and it's just different people getting up
- 1:44:20in different places. It's each, each of the, each different
- 1:44:23place has their own ecosystem of comics who, you know,
- 1:44:25cause you, you go, you go where it gives you,
- 1:44:28what gives you time.
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:44:29Speaker 2: That's where you always, that's the right way to go.
- 1:44:31No matter what. Yeah. Just whatever is feeding you go,
- 1:44:34that's where you go.
- 1:44:35Speaker 3: So there's different ecosystems in each places. And this is,
- 1:44:38it's really, it's really fun. And you just get to
- 1:44:40see people like, man, just figure it out. And it's
- 1:44:45fun to watch, and they'll figure it out on the
- 1:44:46podcast end. They'll figure it out on the comedy end,
- 1:44:50and it all sort of works together.
- 1:44:51Speaker 1: It's got to be extra dope for you, too, because
- 1:44:53you were an early settler.
- 1:44:56Speaker 3: Man, I feel like I got to the gold rush
- 1:44:58in 48. I feel like, because when I got here,
- 1:45:03there was only three.
- 1:45:04Speaker 2: It was me, Hans, Kim, and Derek, and Dylan. Dylan
- 1:45:08was eight years in.
- 1:45:08Speaker 3: But those were the only four of us that were, like,
- 1:45:11not famous headliners that weren't.
- 1:45:14Speaker 2: New comics basically.
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:45:16Speaker 2: So we got to just do so many shows cause
- 1:45:21there was no middle class. It was all, it was,
- 1:45:23it was like California. It was all upper class and
- 1:45:25all like lower class. It was very, that would now,
- 1:45:29now it's robust.
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: Now there's just a bunch of killers that are like
- 1:45:33just moving here all the time. There's this guy, Nick
- 1:45:35Murphy moved from Atlanta. What year did you move here?
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: Uh, 2021.
- 1:45:40Speaker 2: I moved here early. I got on a zoom.
- 1:45:42Speaker 3: I got in a, With Dylan Sullivan, I used to
- 1:45:45play this– I used to play– we used to play
- 1:45:48Game Nights in the pandemic online with our friends because
- 1:45:50we weren't allowed out, right? And so he pulled me
- 1:45:52aside one day on Discord and was like, you got
- 1:45:54to move here, and he made the pitch. And then
- 1:45:57I was like– I was pretty much there, and then
- 1:45:59Derek moved here, and he was like, you got to.
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: And this was just when we were doing shows at
- 1:46:02the Vulcan.
- 1:46:02Speaker 3: This is just shows at the Vulcan. This was just–
- 1:46:05but it was indoor shows, man. And so I moved here,
- 1:46:08and then I was like– because the way I looked
- 1:46:09at it was like, look, either I'm going to– Like
- 1:46:14LA is going to reopen and I'll be working at
- 1:46:15the comedy store again and we'll have at least gotten
- 1:46:17up in that time and gotten paid to go up
- 1:46:21because they paid for every spot here.
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:46:23Speaker 2: If you're booked. So it's like at least got paid.
- 1:46:26And so I was like– and then I'll go back
- 1:46:27to LA.
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: A little glitch. But– So when you came here, it
- 1:46:33was just like, look, I'll get some spots, I'll get paid,
- 1:46:35and if the comic store reopens, I'll go back.
- 1:46:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go back.
- 1:46:39Speaker 3: The club was still two years away from opening, but
- 1:46:42it's like, I'll stick it out to the club and
- 1:46:43see what happens.
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: We were just starting to talk about a club back then. Right.
- 1:46:47Speaker 3: Yeah, you would put it on the universe, and that
- 1:46:49was enough for me to be like, I think he's
- 1:46:50going to get that done. And so I took a chance,
- 1:46:53and it ended up working, and then I ended up
- 1:46:55being one of the first people passed.
- 1:46:57Speaker 2: Through there, which ended up being a huge success.
- 1:46:59Speaker 3: Huge blessing because now there's so many killers that it's
- 1:47:03like hard to get into the mothership. Yeah.
- 1:47:06Speaker 2: There's so many like people who have moved.
- 1:47:07Speaker 3: It's like it's I almost tell people like it's a
- 1:47:10major city in that way in the sense of like
- 1:47:12if you can get good where you are first and
- 1:47:15then move to Austin. That might be better now than
- 1:47:19a blind move to Austin.
- 1:47:20Speaker 1: Right, as an opener.
- 1:47:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: As a beginner.
- 1:47:23Speaker 2: As a beginner.
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard as a beginner.
- 1:47:25Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: It's like L.A. was for a while. Oh, L.A.
- 1:47:27Speaker 2: Is super tough. I imagine New York is super tough
- 1:47:30as well.
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: The store was really tough. If you wanted to go
- 1:47:32from open mic to actual spots, like, bro, you got
- 1:47:35to do spots somewhere else. Right. You really should be better.
- 1:47:38You're better off coming there with potential. Like, you've already
- 1:47:41gotten a few years under your belt.
- 1:47:42Speaker 2: Than, like, trying to figure it out.
- 1:47:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:47:44Speaker 2: Because the LA mics are especially brutal.
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: The thing is, man, if you guys didn't come, it
- 1:47:48wouldn't have worked. Like, that was the thing. It's like,
- 1:47:50the people that really are responsible for the movement, the
- 1:47:54crazy new scene here, are the ones who came before
- 1:47:58the club was open. Brian Simpson... Tom Segura, Segura was
- 1:48:02here early, man. I told him about it. He's like,
- 1:48:05I'm fucking moving. And then bam, I was like, whoa.
- 1:48:08And when Tom moved, I was like, that's a big deal.
- 1:48:10You know, because Tom was already doing arenas. Yeah.
- 1:48:14Speaker 3: It required a certain amount of people to buy in.
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:48:16Speaker 3: And and that I, you know, I'm very because of
- 1:48:19that I'm very pro Austin of because like man if
- 1:48:22you buy in look what can happen like yeah there's.
- 1:48:24Speaker 1: You shouldn't no one should not be pro Austin it's
- 1:48:27funny because Lewis and Tony were going back and forth
- 1:48:30and arguing like Lewis shits on the Austin scene right
- 1:48:33the This New York versus Austin thing is the stupidest
- 1:48:36fucking thing. It's like they should both be awesome.
- 1:48:39Speaker 2: Who cares? Yeah, it's unnecessary. It's unnecessary. Like in fight.
- 1:48:42Speaker 3: It's like catty girl fighting. It's like why we both
- 1:48:45clearly can exist in a space where we can also
- 1:48:48help each other. New York guys are always here. And
- 1:48:51we're I feel like we're always there.
- 1:48:52Speaker 1: But the point is what Tony and Lewis were going
- 1:48:55back and forth. And Lewis said, well, L.A. isn't even
- 1:49:00into consideration anymore. What's the best place for comedy in
- 1:49:03the country? And Tony goes, agreed. And why do you
- 1:49:07think that is? What do you think happened? Where did
- 1:49:11those people go? And Lewis is like, oh, shit.
- 1:49:17Speaker 2: But, you know, I will say this because I was
- 1:49:19just in L.A. I like where the L.A. scene is at.
- 1:49:21It's rebuilding stronger.
- 1:49:22Speaker 1: Of course it is.
- 1:49:23Speaker 2: It's the store.
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: It's L.A.
- 1:49:25Speaker 2: It's Hollywood.
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: It goes through dips. It's done it before. When I
- 1:49:28got there, it was at a low. When I came
- 1:49:30in 94... The OR was half empty. Main room was
- 1:49:33never full. Oh, and then there was no big talent there.
- 1:49:36It's always like that. It comes, it goes. New people
- 1:49:39come up. It's legendary. It's got a vibe to it.
- 1:49:41It creates comedy just by existing.
- 1:49:44Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's still– every time I'm there, I'm like, man,
- 1:49:47this is the fucking place.
- 1:49:48Speaker 1: It's the fucking place, man. That's been the place since 1970-something.
- 1:49:50I mean– That place is crazy.
- 1:49:54Speaker 2: Yeah. The building is alive in that place. That's crazy. Yeah,
- 1:49:57you feel it.
- 1:49:58Speaker 1: It's soaked with the memories of Kennison and Hicks and Pryor.
- 1:50:03Speaker 2: Here's what's crazy. You know the bucket seats in the back?
- 1:50:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:50:06Speaker 3: If you go during the day, they might have repainted
- 1:50:09the wall. So this is when I worked there. But
- 1:50:10when you go during the day, because I'd get there
- 1:50:12early and like right or whatever, and you can look
- 1:50:15where the bucket seats are. The outline of all the
- 1:50:18heads because of all the oil of the people leaning
- 1:50:21back was just there. So you were just there and
- 1:50:23it's just the energy of all these great comics just
- 1:50:26in the room with you.
- 1:50:28Speaker 2: Yeah. It was an interesting place to like be during
- 1:50:32the day because you could sort of feel it.
- 1:50:33Speaker 1: The store is a very special place. Very special place.
- 1:50:36You never get to take away from that. But the
- 1:50:38thing is it's like. It should be and it will
- 1:50:40be even better than it used to be, I'm sure.
- 1:50:43But the point is it's like denying that Austin is
- 1:50:45an amazing scene is just stupid.
- 1:50:47Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:50:48Speaker 1: It's just stupid. And also, don't you want another great scene?
- 1:50:52Do you want a limited amount of options for comedians?
- 1:50:55Don't you want more comics and more comedy?
- 1:50:58Speaker 2: Right, and more places for you to end up performing.
- 1:51:01Shut up.
- 1:51:01Speaker 3: Like now you can go to Austin and spend a
- 1:51:03couple weeks there and get a lot of time and
- 1:51:06learn how to talk to people here.
- 1:51:09Speaker 1: This world. So many bitches. And those bitches never get
- 1:51:12anything done. They just sit and bitch.
- 1:51:14Speaker 2: Nothing ever gets done. They never progress.
- 1:51:22Speaker 3: Yeah, man, just video essays. I watch all the video essays.
- 1:51:26Speaker 2: That's so funny.
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: Why would you watch those?
- 1:51:28Speaker 3: It's just so funny to me because they all start–
- 1:51:30the whole concept that Austin has ruined comedy is very
- 1:51:34funny to me because there's so many comics that are
- 1:51:37blowing up outside everywhere all the time.
- 1:51:40Speaker 1: It's just silly. It's like my friend said. It's a
- 1:51:42walled garden. That's what it is. It seems like the
- 1:51:45people are having too much fun. And if you're not
- 1:51:47there and if you don't have aspirations to be there,
- 1:51:49you feel bad about it. When I lived in Boston,
- 1:51:52the store was like Mecca. People would talk about it.
- 1:51:55I was like, yeah, I had to make the pilgrimage
- 1:51:56to the comedy store. It was one of the first
- 1:51:57things I did when I came to L.A.
- 1:51:59Speaker 2: Oh, no, it's a big deal.
- 1:52:00Speaker 3: The first time you go there, I remember looking at
- 1:52:02it and being just the feeling in my heart.
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: The first time I went there, I hadn't even moved
- 1:52:06there yet. I went there just to watch. I told
- 1:52:08them I was a comedian from New York. I'm like,
- 1:52:10can I go and watch a set? They're like, yeah, sure.
- 1:52:12They let me come in. I sat in the back
- 1:52:14and watched. It was like Bodax.
- 1:52:17Speaker 2: It was terrible.
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: It was really bad. Really? It was like a bunch
- 1:52:19of cruise ship acts, like a bunch of guys who
- 1:52:21had the same act from the 1970s. They had never–
- 1:52:24you know those dudes that like– you'll see them at
- 1:52:25the store occasionally now that have an act from the 80s? Well,
- 1:52:28these dudes, it was like a decade earlier. Yeah.
- 1:52:30Speaker 3: When I worked at La Jolla, there was one guy
- 1:52:32that they booked that they had like some deal with
- 1:52:35Mitzi that he got to perform once a year at
- 1:52:36the La Jolla. And man, you could just tell, man,
- 1:52:39it's been– you haven't changed this act since the 70s.
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: Yeah. They just never evolved at all. And they weren't
- 1:52:47getting spots when Kinison was around. The place was packed.
- 1:52:50And then Kinison left. And then he had a billboard.
- 1:52:53He put a billboard right in front of the comedy
- 1:52:55store of his new album that was coming out.
- 1:52:59Speaker 2: Why did he leave the store? Oh, I don't know.
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: He probably did something stupid.
- 1:53:02Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: I think he definitely fired off a gun. Because remember
- 1:53:05he shot the... The bullet hole is still there.
- 1:53:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:53:08Speaker 1: I heard they fixed the sign, though.
- 1:53:10Speaker 2: No, it's back.
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: They fixed the plastic.
- 1:53:12Speaker 2: Yeah, they might have. I think the plastic was falling apart,
- 1:53:15but they kept the bullet hole because the bullet hole
- 1:53:16is still there. Okay. Yeah, I went and looked. I
- 1:53:19made sure.
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: Pretty crazy.
- 1:53:20Speaker 2: The Kinnison bullet hole is like part of the thing there.
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: But the cracked glass was also part of the thing.
- 1:53:26Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think eventually it just fell apart. It's
- 1:53:28been like 40 years since that happened.
- 1:53:31Speaker 1: I mean, that might have been what got him banned.
- 1:53:33Not sure.
- 1:53:34Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: But then he was banned and then when I came,
- 1:53:37it was 94, so he was already dead. He was
- 1:53:39dead and Hicks was dead. So it was weird. Okay.
- 1:53:43Speaker 2: And so that's what the lull was from? They were
- 1:53:45just kind of missing that top level guy?
- 1:53:47Speaker 1: There was a lull. And guys would occasionally drop in
- 1:53:49to work out, but they didn't put their name on
- 1:53:51the marquee. No one ever knew they were going to
- 1:53:53be there. Like Chris Rock would come in and work out.
- 1:53:55Damon would come in and work out. But the big
- 1:53:57comics that were there, like Don Marrero would stop in.
- 1:53:59There was guys that would stop in. But then it
- 1:54:02was mostly us younger guys. Holtzman was a big part
- 1:54:05back then.
- 1:54:06Speaker 2: I can't imagine Holtzman as a young guy.
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: I mean, me and him, we're only a few years different.
- 1:54:11Speaker 2: It feels like he's just looked like that since he
- 1:54:13was a kid.
- 1:54:14Speaker 1: He was a throwback. He looked like he was from
- 1:54:15the 1950s. When I met him in 94. Yeah. Like,
- 1:54:19slick back, dark hair.
- 1:54:21Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:54:21Speaker 1: Always the best. Always a nice guy. Yeah.
- 1:54:23Speaker 2: Oh, my God. He's the sweetest guy in the world.
- 1:54:26Speaker 3: There's something about guys who are like that on stage
- 1:54:28are always super sweet off stage. Because they, like, truly
- 1:54:31get all the venom out. It's like William Montgomery. If
- 1:54:34you watch William Montgomery on stage, he's a raving lunatic.
- 1:54:37Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:54:38Speaker 1: Look at that picture. Oh, wow. Look at Holtzman to
- 1:54:41the right with a suit on.
- 1:54:42Speaker 2: Oh, my God. And a poly. Who's next to you?
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: Look at that. Freddie Soto.
- 1:54:46Speaker 2: That's Freddie Soto.
- 1:54:46Speaker 1: Damn. Boy, that was probably like 96. Whoa.
- 1:54:51Speaker 2: Crazy. Crazy. Yeah, Brian does look the exact same.
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: He looks the exact same. He had jet black hair.
- 1:55:00And he would, you know what it kind of looks like?
- 1:55:05That's his headshot.
- 1:55:06Speaker 3: There's this guy on Instagram where his whole, his whole
- 1:55:09thing is it just, he pretends to be a greaser.
- 1:55:11Speaker 2: Oh, really? Yeah, but, like, unironically. And that's kind of
- 1:55:15what he looks like. But it's really funny because all
- 1:55:18his comments are just like, yo, show us that hog. Like,
- 1:55:21that's become the— he does, like, greaser shit. And then all
- 1:55:25the comments are like, but how come— where' s the hog reveal?
- 1:55:28Speaker 1: Why his hog?
- 1:55:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it's become, like— That's funny.
- 1:55:31Speaker 3: He's so unironically trying to be a greaser that the
- 1:55:34comments came up with.
- 1:55:35Speaker 2: Their own sort of culture around him.
- 1:55:37Speaker 1: So it's comedy accidentally. Yeah.
- 1:55:40Speaker 3: Yeah, they're kind of mocking. They're all kind of making
- 1:55:41fun of him. But he's genuinely trying to portray this guy,
- 1:55:45this greaser guy. It's like Mike the Greaser or something
- 1:55:47like that.
- 1:55:48Speaker 2: It's so funny.
- 1:55:49Speaker 1: Well, Holtzman was just, I thought he was going to
- 1:55:51blow up, man. I really did. I was like, oh,
- 1:55:53this guy's going to be fucking huge. This guy's going
- 1:55:57to be gigantic. There was a few guys back then
- 1:55:59that I was like, that guy's going to be big.
- 1:56:01Did you ever see Mike Ricca?
- 1:56:04Speaker 4: No.
- 1:56:05Speaker 1: The early 90s, Mike Ricca was great, man. I don't
- 1:56:08know what happened. I don't know what happened with him.
- 1:56:10Speaker 3: I don't even know if he does comedy anymore. Yeah,
- 1:56:13it's so easy. People fall off all the time. Because
- 1:56:16it is brutal. The game is brutal.
- 1:56:19Speaker 1: It can be.
- 1:56:19Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: But you have to have something brutal outside of the
- 1:56:22game to keep you centered. You should do something else
- 1:56:26that's also difficult. For me, it's obviously working out. That's
- 1:56:29a big part of what keeps me sane. I think
- 1:56:31it's important for mental health. The people that are the
- 1:56:33most mentally unhealthy and unstable that I know all have
- 1:56:38no control of their body. None of them exercise. They
- 1:56:41don't eat well. They eat terrible food. They take medications
- 1:56:45and they're all fucked up in the head. And then
- 1:56:48little things can send them off a deep end. Once
- 1:56:50a person makes a mean tweet about them and a
- 1:56:52couple of people pile on, they want to jump off
- 1:56:54a building. Right. You know, there's a bunch of those
- 1:56:56people out there. And I think like with the pressures
- 1:56:58of this job, you have to for your own sanity.
- 1:57:02You have to find some sort of an outlet, find
- 1:57:04some sort of a thing.
- 1:57:06Speaker 2: Or like take a walk.
- 1:57:07Speaker 1: That too.
- 1:57:08Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: That'll help, but it should be something that's a little
- 1:57:11bit that you exert yourself.
- 1:57:13Speaker 3: Well, that's like– I was like that's a good place
- 1:57:15to start if you're one of these people that like
- 1:57:17don't– like just a simple walk can really get the
- 1:57:20ball rolling.
- 1:57:21Speaker 1: Don't jump right into CrossFit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing, couch
- 1:57:25to CrossFit.
- 1:57:25Speaker 3: Yeah, just be outside and like smell the air and
- 1:57:28be– or so because like does your phone send you
- 1:57:30the screen time updates?
- 1:57:32Speaker 1: What do you mean?
- 1:57:33Speaker 2: Like, so my phone will send me, like, a weekly, like,
- 1:57:35this is how much you spend on your phone. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:57:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:57:37Speaker 3: For me, it's like, damn, this is like a full-time
- 1:57:39job that I'm spending on my phone.
- 1:57:41Speaker 1: It's a lot.
- 1:57:42Speaker 3: It's disgusting. And I have to just remind myself, like, oh,
- 1:57:44the reason I feel bad is because.
- 1:57:46Speaker 2: I'm on this.
- 1:57:47Speaker 1: 100%.
- 1:57:48Speaker 3: I'm on this, and I'm consuming a fake reality that, like,
- 1:57:52I think one of the most dangerous things that the phone, like,
- 1:57:56the online existence does is it calls, like, People call
- 1:57:59their fans and stuff a community, and it's not really
- 1:58:02a community.
- 1:58:03Speaker 2: Your community has to be people you see in person.
- 1:58:05It can't be this online, possibly fake community. fan club, basically.
- 1:58:12Speaker 1: Well, it certainly can't be a large percentage of your
- 1:58:15interactions with people. That's nuts. But, I mean, there is
- 1:58:18some sort of a community that you kind of cultivate
- 1:58:21by interacting with people on social media. It's just at
- 1:58:24what price. Right. And then how much are you doom-scrolling?
- 1:58:28other than interacting with people and having, like, semi-positive experiences, communicating, like,
- 1:58:34sharing ideas, how much of it is just doom scrolling?
- 1:58:36Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: For me, it was a lot. And so I backed
- 1:58:39off it heavy. So I still spend a lot of
- 1:58:42time on YouTube, though. My distraction time is almost all YouTube.
- 1:58:47Speaker 3: No, I'm a doom scroller. Yeah, because you get caught.
- 1:58:50You see one thing, and you're like, it's so easy
- 1:58:52to just do that.
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: It is, but I don't want that because it makes
- 1:58:55me feel weird. But YouTube doesn't make me feel weird.
- 1:58:58So if I watch some really cool video on ancient
- 1:59:02history or something, I never feel bad at all. I'm like, oh,
- 1:59:05that was cool. I don't come out of it with
- 1:59:08any negative feeling. I just come out of it like, oh,
- 1:59:10that's interesting.
- 1:59:11Speaker 2: I learned something. YouTube is like the modern television now.
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: Oh, it's fucking phenomenal.
- 1:59:16Speaker 2: That's the one. Phenomenal.
- 1:59:18Speaker 3: There are people making high-quality things. Sometimes I'll get caught
- 1:59:22up in things that I don't even care about. I'm
- 1:59:26not a huge horror movie fan. I like movies, but
- 1:59:28I found this one page called Nightmare Movies, and he
- 1:59:30just explains his favorite horror movies, and he has a...
- 1:59:33great voice and I've watched like all of his videos
- 1:59:36zero interest in watching any of the movies I'm interested
- 1:59:38in watching him react to the movies really yeah yeah
- 1:59:41what's really dope.
- 1:59:42Speaker 1: On YouTube also is these little short horror movies that
- 1:59:46people make on their own like real super low budget
- 1:59:49but like really interesting ideas there's a ton of them
- 1:59:52man right some of them are fucking great they're really
- 1:59:55cool they're like eight minutes long they're two.
- 1:59:56Speaker 2: Minutes long and they can just get you yeah yeah.
- 1:59:59Speaker 1: There's so much entertainment. I like watching people make furniture
- 2:00:02for some reason. I really do. I love watching people
- 2:00:06make live-edge tables and shit.
- 2:00:08Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just like, oh, this tickles me.
- 2:00:12Speaker 1: I like watching people cook. I watch a lot of cooking.
- 2:00:15Speaker 3: Everyone's entertainment is so in their own lane that you
- 2:00:21can come across a video and be like, 8 million
- 2:00:22views and you've never even seen it. True virality is tough. Like,
- 2:00:27in the future, are there going to be even, like,
- 2:00:29A-list celebrities like that?
- 2:00:32Speaker 2: You know? Or, like, it's going to be... There's going
- 2:00:34to be less and less, like, A... Like, what would
- 2:00:36you describe as, like, an A-list celebrity, right? Sure, right.
- 2:00:38Because everyone has their own sort of lane.
- 2:00:40Speaker 1: Well, there's more celebrities now than there ever have been before.
- 2:00:43For sure. There's more... Let's just say famous people.
- 2:00:46Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:00:46Speaker 1: There's more people that are known... Than ever before because
- 2:00:49of social media. Yes. Like, think about all the streamers
- 2:00:51and YouTubers and podcasters.
- 2:00:53Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Austin has a huge streaming scene.
- 2:00:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:00:55Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane.
- 2:00:56Speaker 1: So there's that. So that muddies the water. Because, like,
- 2:00:59you go back to, like, let's go back to, like,
- 2:01:011960 when Paul Newman was a superstar making movies. Right.
- 2:01:05How many fucking Paul Newmans were there?
- 2:01:07Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:01:07Speaker 1: Yeah. Was it 10? Yeah. On Earth? Right. Like, if
- 2:01:10you wanted to make a big movie, you got Marlon Brando,
- 2:01:12Paul Newman. You know, you have a few people. Mm-hmm.
- 2:01:15Speaker 2: Like a star on Sidney Sweeney's like level now. Right.
- 2:01:19Speaker 3: Back then, that would be a name to sell movies. Now,
- 2:01:23like there's movies that she's in that people don't watch.
- 2:01:25Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:01:25Speaker 3: And that's like what like an A-list celebrity is now.
- 2:01:28It's like there's so much stuff you're competing with.
- 2:01:31Speaker 1: There's so much content. Just period. I'm always watching a
- 2:01:35new show. There's always a new show, and they're fucking great.
- 2:01:39There's so many great shows.
- 2:01:41Speaker 3: Yeah, or not even just random Instagram accounts. Dude, I
- 2:01:43watch this guy's Sandwiches of History. All he does is
- 2:01:47he finds a sandwich book from, like, some of them from, like,
- 2:01:50the early 1900s and just makes a sandwich in them.
- 2:01:53Speaker 1: Is any of them good?
- 2:01:54Speaker 2: Some of them are amazing, and some of them suck ass.
- 2:01:56Some of them are, like, Depression era, you know what
- 2:01:59I mean? It's like bread and sawdust or whatever, you know?
- 2:02:01Speaker 1: Like.
- 2:02:03Speaker 3: But some of them are like, damn, that's like a
- 2:02:05good sandwich. And I just watch this guy eat sandwiches
- 2:02:07and be like, this is a great use of my time.
- 2:02:10Speaker 5: Making an orange peel sandwich from 1921 here.
- 2:02:12Speaker 2: 1921.
- 2:02:13Speaker 1: So you take orange peels, you mix it up with mayonnaise,
- 2:02:17and you spread it on bread. Let's see his face.
- 2:02:21Speaker 2: He always goes, I'll give this sandwich a go. He
- 2:02:25has like a catchphrase. I'm all about it.
- 2:02:28Speaker 1: Hmm. Okay.
- 2:02:30Speaker 2: It doesn't look like he likes it.
- 2:02:32Speaker 1: It's a terrible idea.
- 2:02:33Speaker 2: That's a terrible idea.
- 2:02:35Speaker 1: Orange peel sandwich the fuck out of here.
- 2:02:36Speaker 2: Well, that's what people ate.
- 2:02:37Speaker 1: Yeah, you're starving. You're starving, you eat an orange peel sandwich.
- 2:02:40Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:02:41Speaker 1: The sandwich was made by a guy who was in
- 2:02:43a hurry, right? Wasn't that the idea? He just threw
- 2:02:45some fucking meat in some bread to eat it all together?
- 2:02:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And then the people were like, wow.
- 2:02:49Speaker 1: Wasn't his name sandwich or something?
- 2:02:51Speaker 2: He was like the Earl of Sandwich. I think it
- 2:02:52was a sandwich with a place. Something like that?
- 2:02:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:02:56Speaker 2: As I'm saying that.
- 2:02:57Speaker 1: Is that real, though?
- 2:02:58Speaker 5: Is that just like goofy?
- 2:02:59Speaker 1: We definitely searched this before.
- 2:03:01Speaker 2: Isn't there an Earl of Sandwich?
- 2:03:03Speaker 5: No, there 100% is, but it's also like a store,
- 2:03:05and I'm just like, is that even maybe just like
- 2:03:08a silly myth?
- 2:03:09Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, if the sandwich didn't originate with
- 2:03:12the Earl of Sandwich, what a mighty coincidence that is.
- 2:03:16Speaker 2: What a real deal crazy coincidence.
- 2:03:17Speaker 1: If there is an Earl of Sandwich, what is the
- 2:03:20origins of the term sandwich?
- 2:03:22Speaker 5: I'm stuck looking at the Earl of Sandwich.
- 2:03:24Speaker 2: Okay, so the Earl of Sandwich exists.
- 2:03:26Speaker 1: But just put into perplexity, what are the origins of
- 2:03:29the sandwich? I'm pretty sure it was like a military guy. Yes.
- 2:03:34And he was like, fuck it, just give me the
- 2:03:36bread and the meat. I'll put it together. And he
- 2:03:38cut the bread open, stuffed it in there. Because I
- 2:03:40think they used to just eat bread and eat meat
- 2:03:42and eat bread. They just ate bread by itself. They
- 2:03:43were too stupid to combine them.
- 2:03:45Speaker 2: Yeah, very autistically. Keep the food separate.
- 2:03:48Speaker 1: 18th century England named after John Montagu.
- 2:03:51Speaker 2: The fourth Earl of Sandwich. Aha.
- 2:03:53Speaker 5: John is the Earl of Sandwich.
- 2:03:56Speaker 3: During a prolonged card game in 1762. Oh, that's right.
- 2:04:00Speaker 1: He was gambling. That's right. Now I remember.
- 2:04:03Speaker 3: Oh, well, now that gambling is so fucking massive now,
- 2:04:07what cool food is going to come out of that?
- 2:04:10Speaker 1: That's already here. All the fast food Uber Eats will
- 2:04:13deliver it right to your table. Allowing him to eat
- 2:04:15without interrupting play, the practice creation popularized the handheld meal
- 2:04:20among England's elite. There it is.
- 2:04:22Speaker 2: Oh, that's so funny. It used to be an elite food.
- 2:04:25Speaker 1: Oh, so it looks like the Romans had it before.
- 2:04:29It says similar concepts predated Montague, such as the Roman ophela,
- 2:04:35which involved meat or cheese between bread slices. That's a sandwich.
- 2:04:39Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:04:39Speaker 1: They just didn't call it that. Hmm.
- 2:04:42Speaker 2: Huh.
- 2:04:44Speaker 1: Okay.
- 2:04:45Speaker 2: They finally had a name that stuck. Is there a
- 2:04:47current Earl of Sandwich?
- 2:04:49Speaker 1: I bet there is. Imagine if he's gluten sensitive.
- 2:04:53Speaker 5: That's what I was digging through was this, but I
- 2:04:55didn't get any good information from it.
- 2:04:58Speaker 1: Well, now we know. You want to talk about places
- 2:05:02to eat? Austin has an amazing fucking selection of places
- 2:05:06to eat.
- 2:05:08Speaker 2: During the day, the night leaves a little... Yeah. There
- 2:05:11needs to be a late night diner out here.
- 2:05:12Speaker 1: Well, we were talking about that last night. Like one
- 2:05:14of the things I really miss about LA is the
- 2:05:15Jewish delis. Like Cantor's. Yes. We used to go there
- 2:05:19after a club. We'd leave and we'd go to Cantor's
- 2:05:21and I would get a pastrami Reuben with steak fries.
- 2:05:25Oh my God. Have you ever had a pastrami Reuben
- 2:05:28from Cantor's?
- 2:05:28Speaker 2: Yeah. Good Lord. That's what you get at Cantor's.
- 2:05:31Speaker 1: Good Lord.
- 2:05:31Speaker 2: It's good. Yeah.
- 2:05:32Speaker 1: I mean, it might be the best pastrami Reuben on earth.
- 2:05:35It's right up there with Cat's Deli in New York City,
- 2:05:38which is maybe the king.
- 2:05:39Speaker 2: Oh, I've never been there. Oh, Lord.
- 2:05:42Speaker 1: Cat's Deli in New York City is fucking legendary. First
- 2:05:44of all, you get a ticket when you get there.
- 2:05:47I don't even know if they accept credit cards. You
- 2:05:49might have to pay in cash. Oh, I like that.
- 2:05:51You get a ticket when you get there, and you
- 2:05:52can't lose your ticket. If you lose your ticket, you
- 2:05:54got to pay like 50 bucks. Because you take that ticket,
- 2:05:57and on that ticket, they write all the things you get.
- 2:05:59So you go up to the counter, and they're like,
- 2:06:01we're going to get you. And there's guys that have
- 2:06:02been fucking chopping meat since the 20s. They'll slice you
- 2:06:07off a couple of pieces of brisket, slice you off
- 2:06:09a couple of pieces of pastrami, and you get to
- 2:06:11eat it while you're there, while you're waiting for your
- 2:06:13sandwich to be made. And, you know, you tell them
- 2:06:15what you want, and he pulls the fucking pastrami out
- 2:06:18and starts slicing it up in front of you. It
- 2:06:20steams coming off of it. He's piling it on that
- 2:06:23rye bread. You're like, you can't wait.
- 2:06:25Speaker 7: And then he gives you a couple pickles in there,
- 2:06:27and then you're like, what else do you want? And
- 2:06:28then you move down the line. Like, can I get
- 2:06:30an order of fries? Can I get an order of fries?
- 2:06:31I want a root beer, pa-pa-pa. And then you get
- 2:06:33to the end, and they put it all on your ticket.
- 2:06:36And then when you leave, after you've eaten, then you
- 2:06:39bring the ticket up to the counter.
- 2:06:41Speaker 2: Ah, okay. So it's food plus accountability. You have to
- 2:06:45keep track of stuff.
- 2:06:48Speaker 1: It's a weird old system, so nobody pays attention. So
- 2:06:51everyone loses their fucking ticket if you're from out of town,
- 2:06:53if you've never been there before. You're like, what? The ticket?
- 2:06:55Speaker 2: What? What happened?
- 2:06:56Speaker 1: How much is it?
- 2:06:58Speaker 2: It's a way to scam the tourists a little bit.
- 2:07:00It's like a tourist fee, not a scam.
- 2:07:02Speaker 1: Well, I just think it's how they used to count
- 2:07:03back then. They just never changed it. It's kind of
- 2:07:06the charm of the place. They just got this weird thing.
- 2:07:08Show me some canter sandwiches, son. Show me some of that.
- 2:07:13Speaker 2: When I was a door guy, we were big swingers guys.
- 2:07:17Speaker 1: Show me cats.
- 2:07:19Speaker 2: That was the diner we went to.
- 2:07:21Speaker 1: Swingers was great. That was a great diner. That was
- 2:07:24a great diner. Really good food. And that was open
- 2:07:26pretty late, too. Look at that, son. Are you fucking
- 2:07:29kidding me? Look at that pastrami with Swiss cheese. Oh, Lord.
- 2:07:34That's so good. And they pile it up high, and
- 2:07:38they've been doing it that way since the fucking 1800s.
- 2:07:40How old is Cantor's? 1888. 1888? Jeez.
- 2:07:41Speaker 2: 1888.
- 2:07:41Speaker 1: Look how good that looks. Oh. You can see how
- 2:07:50she's pulling it like that. The flavors. Oh.
- 2:07:53Speaker 2: Yeah, see, this is what Austin is definitely missing. Yeah.
- 2:07:56Speaker 3: They need something late night, something that we can all
- 2:07:59eat where you can go.
- 2:08:00Speaker 2: And hang out.
- 2:08:01Speaker 1: Now, I had heard that someone was opening a Cat's
- 2:08:04Deli in Austin.
- 2:08:06Speaker 2: Right?
- 2:08:06Speaker 1: But I don't think it's Cat's Deli from New York City.
- 2:08:10Speaker 2: No, it's just called Cat's Deli. Cat's never closes?
- 2:08:13Speaker 1: Oh, coming soon. Hold on, go back. Coming soon on
- 2:08:186th Street. How far is that from us?
- 2:08:20Speaker 2: Well, we're on 6th.
- 2:08:21Speaker 5: It's on West 6th.
- 2:08:21Speaker 2: It's on West 6th. So it's like near. It's taking
- 2:08:24over our current spot.
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: Yeah. What's that?
- 2:08:26Speaker 5: It's taking over us. I think there's like a bar
- 2:08:28there or something now.
- 2:08:29Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 2:08:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of near where.
- 2:08:31Speaker 1: Opening in the same location as the OG Cats is
- 2:08:33operated for 32 years. So it's. Way down by Jay Carvers.
- 2:08:37Speaker 2: Yeah, but this says.
- 2:08:38Speaker 1: That's a five-minute drive.
- 2:08:40Speaker 2: Yeah, you can walk there. We do that all the time.
- 2:08:42Speaker 1: Cats never closes.
- 2:08:43Speaker 2: But that was August 18th. Has there been any news since?
- 2:08:47Speaker 1: Is it open?
- 2:08:47Speaker 5: No, it's going to take a year.
- 2:08:48Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to take a year.
- 2:08:50Speaker 1: Oh, they're building it out? Yeah. Whoa.
- 2:08:53Speaker 5: There's a few places like that that got the name
- 2:08:56out and it's going to be open in a year.
- 2:08:57Speaker 2: And a half.
- 2:08:57Speaker 1: So was there an original Cats is never closes? That's
- 2:09:01the one. That's where it was.
- 2:09:03Speaker 5: It closed in 2011. So they lied. No, what do
- 2:09:06you mean?
- 2:09:06Speaker 1: Fucking closed.
- 2:09:10Speaker 2: Yeah, cats sometimes closes for 15 years.
- 2:09:12Speaker 1: By the way, I would have never allowed them to
- 2:09:14use a K for closes. Like, guys, we're not kooky. Stop.
- 2:09:18Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not Krispy Kreme.
- 2:09:20Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you doing that? So, expected in 2026,
- 2:09:24maybe 2027. Oh, okay.
- 2:09:27Speaker 2: Well, hopefully they, yeah. Because that's the big hole right
- 2:09:30now in the Austin game. Look at it, though.
- 2:09:31Speaker 1: This is it. New York-style deli menu with sandwiches like Reuben's,
- 2:09:35Day-long breakfast dishes like waffle egg sandwiches and blintzes. Entrees
- 2:09:40including pork roasts and meatloaves. Oh, my God, it sounds amazing.
- 2:09:44Open 24-7. Alright, that'll be it for us. That'll be it.
- 2:09:48Speaker 2: Finally. Finally. Because that was the big hole.
- 2:09:50Speaker 3: Outside of that, Austin has, like, amazing food.
- 2:09:53Speaker 1: We should help them.
- 2:09:54Speaker 2: But, yeah, after 10 p.m., it gets rough pickings around here.
- 2:09:57Speaker 1: Yeah, let's blow them up when they open up.
- 2:09:59Speaker 2: A lot of halal carts, which I wouldn't expect in Austin.
- 2:10:01That's such a funny... Going through there, I wouldn't be like, oh,
- 2:10:04halal carts would be a good way I get late-night food.
- 2:10:06Speaker 1: Entrepreneurs.
- 2:10:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:10:08Speaker 1: Dudes recognize the need.
- 2:10:09Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the only things you can get.
- 2:10:12Speaker 1: Oh, there's Golden Tiger. That's great. They're open pretty late, right?
- 2:10:16Speaker 3: They're open until like 1.30. Yeah, that's pretty late.
- 2:10:20Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
- 2:10:21Speaker 2: The comic life, you're like out at 2. I know.
- 2:10:23Speaker 1: Looking for food at 2.
- 2:10:25Speaker 2: Yeah, at 2. And you're like, well, thank God the
- 2:10:28Mexican hot dog carts people are here. Right. Yeah, that
- 2:10:30happened recently. They started showing up.
- 2:10:32Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always smart people that capitalize. Because there's always,
- 2:10:35I mean, there's just so many people walking around drunk.
- 2:10:38Speaker 2: Right, just looking for stuff.
- 2:10:39Speaker 1: Especially 6th Street. You got a taco truck, you can
- 2:10:42kill it.
- 2:10:42Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 2:10:43Speaker 1: On 6th Street?
- 2:10:44Speaker 2: Oh, at 2 in the morning, all the fucking zombies.
- 2:10:46Speaker 1: And there's that road when you go up to 7th
- 2:10:48where when you're headed towards Creek, there's a whole parking
- 2:10:52lot that's got a bunch of food trucks up in there.
- 2:10:57Speaker 2: My favorite place is called Diddy Dog. They got bulgogi fries.
- 2:11:00Speaker 1: Bulgogi fries.
- 2:11:02Speaker 2: Bulgogi fries.
- 2:11:03Speaker 1: Isn't there a really good cheeseburger place over there, too?
- 2:11:06Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, there's the Yala Burgers. They're pretty good. But
- 2:11:09for me, downtown, if I'm eating downtown, I'm eating the
- 2:11:12bulgogi fries.
- 2:11:12Speaker 1: That good, huh?
- 2:11:13Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. There are a lot, so I can't get
- 2:11:15them very often. Now that I'm older, then I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 2:11:18I have to take care of myself. But when I
- 2:11:21first moved here, I was on that bulgogi fry diet, son.
- 2:11:24Speaker 1: It's kind of insane how many great restaurants there are here, though.
- 2:11:26Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 2:11:28Speaker 1: The number's nuts.
- 2:11:30Speaker 2: And good casual eating places, too. It's like you can really...
- 2:11:33Everyone who moves... When you move to Austin, there's the
- 2:11:37Freshman 15.
- 2:11:39Speaker 1: Just from eating here?
- 2:11:39Speaker 2: Just from eating here. You just get it.
- 2:11:41Speaker 3: And then after you live here for like five years,
- 2:11:44I think you just get so tired of brisket that
- 2:11:46you can't look at it again for a while. I
- 2:11:49eat so much brisket that I only go now when
- 2:11:52out-of-town people are here.
- 2:11:54Speaker 2: That's funny.
- 2:11:54Speaker 1: I could eat it 24 days a week. Out of
- 2:11:57a month. I'll take six off.
- 2:11:58Speaker 2: Oh, no, no.
- 2:11:59Speaker 1: I love it.
- 2:11:59Speaker 2: Yeah. Sometimes the Terry Blacks will come to the green
- 2:12:03room and I'll be like, I can't look at this
- 2:12:04right now. Oh, no. This is like day three in
- 2:12:06a row of Terry Blacks. Not to complain, but it
- 2:12:08is funny.
- 2:12:09Speaker 1: Terry Blacks has those beef ribs, dog.
- 2:12:10Speaker 2: That's their best.
- 2:12:11Speaker 1: Those beef ribs are insane.
- 2:12:13Speaker 3: I do describe it. You got to take every tourist.
- 2:12:15It's like the Disneyland of Austin.
- 2:12:16Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's a line that moves quickly. You can
- 2:12:19see everything's made.
- 2:12:20Speaker 1: And it's a fucking huge place. I think they're like
- 2:12:23the highest volume restaurant in the country.
- 2:12:25Speaker 2: Really?
- 2:12:26Speaker 1: Yeah. I think in terms of like brisket and barbecue
- 2:12:29and stuff, I think they were telling me that. I
- 2:12:32forget what the exact statistic they told me, but it
- 2:12:34was like the volume of food that they serve there
- 2:12:37is like as high as anywhere in the country.
- 2:12:39Speaker 2: That makes sense. There's always a line there.
- 2:12:41Speaker 1: Giant line.
- 2:12:42Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they always move quickly, so they're
- 2:12:44always getting people like in and out.
- 2:12:46Speaker 1: Well, you can only eat so much. Like when you
- 2:12:48sit down and eat barbecue, you ain't sitting there for
- 2:12:50three hours, bitch.
- 2:12:51Speaker 2: No, no. And you also always get more than you
- 2:12:54can eat. Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:12:55Speaker 3: You always like, yeah. Cause it looks so good up there.
- 2:12:57And then like the second you have like their cornbread,
- 2:12:59you're so full.
- 2:13:00Speaker 2: What the fuck is that?
- 2:13:01Speaker 1: Those beef ribs, man. They're so rich. You can only eat, like,
- 2:13:05so much of it before you're.
- 2:13:08Speaker 2: Like, oh. Oh, yeah, yeah. Not before a show. That's
- 2:13:11always a mistake that people make.
- 2:13:12Speaker 1: Bro, last time we had a whole group of us,
- 2:13:14I made the mistake of sitting next to Metzger, and
- 2:13:16I was in the corner. I was fucking looming over
- 2:13:20me with conspiracy theories. I'm like, Kurt, you got to stop.
- 2:13:23Try and enjoy these ribs. You got to stop.
- 2:13:26Speaker 5: I don't know if it's just the Terry Blacks in Austin,
- 2:13:28because I know they have one in Dallas, I think, too.
- 2:13:30But it says 18% of America's brisket is served by them.
- 2:13:34Speaker 2: 18% of America's? That's so much brisket.
- 2:13:38Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 2:13:41Speaker 2: Metzger's a fun one. In the green room, he says.
- 2:13:43Speaker 3: My favorite is when he'll be like, I thought this
- 2:13:46was common knowledge.
- 2:13:47Speaker 1: You don't know?
- 2:13:47Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know.
- 2:13:48Speaker 3: There was something he said in the green room the
- 2:13:50other day about Morgan Freeman. Some deep conspiracy about Morgan Freeman.
- 2:13:55And we're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
- 2:13:56I thought this was common knowledge. It's like, no, no
- 2:13:58one knows anything What are you talking about?
- 2:14:00Speaker 1: Is it the Morgan Freeman dated his granddaughter or some
- 2:14:03shit like that?
- 2:14:03Speaker 2: Yeah, step-granddaughter.
- 2:14:04Speaker 1: Step-granddaughter.
- 2:14:05Speaker 3: Yeah, dated her and then the boyfriend went crazy and, like,
- 2:14:10killed her.
- 2:14:12Speaker 2: And he was like, I thought that was common knowledge.
- 2:14:13It's like, what do you mean?
- 2:14:15Speaker 1: Is that true? The boyfriend went crazy and killed her?
- 2:14:17Speaker 3: That's what he said. I looked at it afterwards and
- 2:14:19I was like, I don't know where. Kurt gets his
- 2:14:22news plugged in straight from the Matrix, I think. I
- 2:14:24don't even know where he finds his stuff.
- 2:14:26Speaker 1: Well, he's on that Jimmy Dore show.
- 2:14:27Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 2:14:30Speaker 1: And Jimmy Dore show, the entire show is about exposing
- 2:14:32corruption and conspiracies and it's a lot.
- 2:14:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:14:37Speaker 1: You live in that world all the time.
- 2:14:39Speaker 2: Then everything becomes a conspiracy and everything.
- 2:14:40Speaker 1: It doesn't leave a lot of room for sunshine. Also,
- 2:14:43here's the thing. There's enough– like we talked about the
- 2:14:45Franklin scandal. There's enough conspiracies that are absolutely real and
- 2:14:48provable that if you go into it, you will kind
- 2:14:50of go crazy. Right. I mean this is what kind
- 2:14:52of happened to Alex Jones. This is what happens to
- 2:14:54a lot of people that get involved in conspiracies. It's
- 2:14:57like you find out how many of them are true
- 2:14:59and you start losing your fucking mind. You're like, what
- 2:15:02is real? Like, what really controls the world? Like, what
- 2:15:05fucking lizard people are really at the center of this
- 2:15:07whole thing?
- 2:15:08Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. This is kind of better to just stay
- 2:15:11away at a certain point. Just be like, eh. Well,
- 2:15:13you should.
- 2:15:13Speaker 1: Probably pay attention a little bit. But some people must
- 2:15:17have an obligation to do it because if it doesn't
- 2:15:20get exposed, then it's going to continue. And the only
- 2:15:22way that you can kind of put a stop to
- 2:15:23this stuff is people have to get busted and they
- 2:15:25have to be held accountable. Yeah. The public has to
- 2:15:27get outraged. So someone has to be making these videos.
- 2:15:30But it doesn't have to be you.
- 2:15:31Speaker 2: Right. It doesn't have to be you. Yeah.
- 2:15:33Speaker 1: For your own personal mental health, it's just not good
- 2:15:37to absorb all of the evil of the world. Yeah.
- 2:15:41Speaker 2: There's no reason to take that on. There's no reason.
- 2:15:44Just find happiness in your lane.
- 2:15:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:15:46Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like that's pretty easy to do. Yeah.
- 2:15:49Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty easy to do. Yeah.
- 2:15:51Speaker 2: A lot of people just be happy with where you
- 2:15:53are and work from there.
- 2:15:55Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just like some people feel obligated to
- 2:15:57be a part of something. The thing about like with
- 2:16:02Metzger is like he wasn't always like this. I was
- 2:16:05friends with him long before I started working with Jimmy
- 2:16:08and he was– Fun and crazy. Always like the same
- 2:16:13kind of guy. But now it's like the obsession is
- 2:16:17all on deep corruption and conspiracies. It's like, yo. But
- 2:16:21he's right. He's right about a lot of it. Right.
- 2:16:24Which is nuts. And he maintains a lot of it
- 2:16:27in his fucking brain just bouncing around in there like.
- 2:16:31Speaker 2: But, yeah. But, I mean, it just takes over. I
- 2:16:34do think White Precious, his Comedy Central special, that's low key.
- 2:16:40One of the most underrated specials of all time. That
- 2:16:42special is great.
- 2:16:42Speaker 1: He's very funny.
- 2:16:43Speaker 2: That special is great.
- 2:16:44Speaker 1: He's very good. His writing is very good. He's just
- 2:16:46very smart. He's a great podcast guest too. Basically just
- 2:16:50got to kind of corral him a little bit because
- 2:16:54he'll go from one subject to the next subject to
- 2:16:56the next all in like one rant. You're like, okay,
- 2:16:59go back to that first one. Queen Elizabeth did what?
- 2:17:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:17:03Speaker 1: You know?
- 2:17:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:17:04Speaker 1: He's just– well, we have a lot of– I mean
- 2:17:07he's another one that lives in Austin now. We have
- 2:17:08a lot of them. It's pretty cool.
- 2:17:10Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so fun watching, like, all these, like, young kids, dude, like,
- 2:17:15rise up and just, like, find themselves. It's so, like,
- 2:17:20I mentioned Fuzzy earlier, but just watching him on stage, like,
- 2:17:23he does it.
- 2:17:24Speaker 3: It's great watching him just, like, figure out to not
- 2:17:26give a fuck and then see what comes from that.
- 2:17:29Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:17:30Speaker 3: Like, right now he's doing these things at the end
- 2:17:31when he closes out, like, Fat Man. he'll also do
- 2:17:34a Q & A but he's not famous so the
- 2:17:36questions are so much.
- 2:17:38Speaker 2: Funnier and like the answers are so much wilder because
- 2:17:41it's just some guy that they all.
- 2:17:42Speaker 3: Just met that's hilarious yeah so it's a very fun
- 2:17:45dynamic to watch his Q & As. Because the whole
- 2:17:48audience is like, wait, we're doing a Q & A?
- 2:17:50Speaker 2: Why? We had no questions coming in.
- 2:17:52Speaker 1: That's funny.
- 2:17:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:17:53Speaker 1: The first time I ever saw anybody do a Q
- 2:17:55& A was Seinfeld.
- 2:17:56Speaker 2: Really?
- 2:17:57Speaker 1: Yeah, he did a whole set. He did like 45 minutes.
- 2:18:00And then it was at the Paradise in Boston. The
- 2:18:03Paradise was a small club. It was a rock and
- 2:18:04roll club that was connected to Stitches. And Stitches was
- 2:18:08the comedy club. So for the comedy club, like if
- 2:18:11you're a regular comedian, I think Stitches probably seated maybe
- 2:18:14150 people. It was like a little bit bigger than
- 2:18:18Little Boy. And so if you were a regular comic,
- 2:18:22like a road headliner, you would do Stitches. And then
- 2:18:25if you're a big guy like Jerry Seinfeld who had
- 2:18:27been on television, you'd do The Paradise.
- 2:18:29Speaker 2: Okay.
- 2:18:29Speaker 1: So I was with a date. I think I was
- 2:18:32maybe 20, and I went to see Jerry Seinfeld before
- 2:18:35I ever did stand-up. And he did stand-up, and then
- 2:18:37he came back out. And he answered questions. And he
- 2:18:40would just riff with the audience. And it was fucking great.
- 2:18:43It was really cool. He just started riffing about stuff.
- 2:18:46And I guess that's like how he was creating material
- 2:18:48and coming up with new premises. Yeah.
- 2:18:50Speaker 2: Do you get bits when you do that?
- 2:18:51Speaker 1: Sometimes. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not an exact science.
- 2:18:55Like we'll have a whole fun Q & A session
- 2:18:58for 20 minutes and there's no bits.
- 2:19:00Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:19:00Speaker 1: And I'll do it five times, six times, and then
- 2:19:02one time, bam, I got one. And then you just
- 2:19:06got to grab that sucker. And reel it into the shore.
- 2:19:10Speaker 2: Yeah, and just work on it.
- 2:19:11Speaker 1: Yeah, and then figure it out. But Bottom of the
- 2:19:13Barrel is the best. Bottom of the Barrel is the
- 2:19:15best premise factory ever.
- 2:19:16Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:19:17Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 2:19:18Speaker 3: I feel like because there's certain people who do it.
- 2:19:21I mean, you're great at it. And I feel like
- 2:19:23if you were thinking about doing a special, would you
- 2:19:25ever consider doing a Bottom of the Barrel type special?
- 2:19:27Speaker 1: No, because I'd say too much wild shit that I
- 2:19:29wouldn't want to get published.
- 2:19:30Speaker 3: That's a very fair point. The most insane shit I've
- 2:19:33ever said has been on Bottom of the Barrel. And
- 2:19:35just like, I'm so glad there's a place where I
- 2:19:37can get this thought out. Because they'll look at you like, yo,
- 2:19:40what the fuck?
- 2:19:41Speaker 1: And you're like, hey, this wasn't my idea. You fucking
- 2:19:44wrote this down.
- 2:19:45Speaker 2: Yeah, they get mad at you for it.
- 2:19:49Speaker 3: I remember one time I got bestiality and it reminded
- 2:19:53me of a story. So the way we consume porn
- 2:19:56as kids, because you guys had like magazines and you'd
- 2:19:58find in the woods.
- 2:19:59Speaker 2: You have a bit about that. Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:20:00Speaker 3: That was not so weird. There was these, this was
- 2:20:02like pre-porn hub. So these pre-YouTubes of porn as I
- 2:20:05call them, but there are these like dedicated sites. They'd
- 2:20:08be like, one of them was like Mr. Choose Asian Beaver.
- 2:20:10I think you can tell what that's about. That one
- 2:20:14was great because- Probably run by a Jewish guy.
- 2:20:17Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
- 2:20:17Speaker 1: Definitely not a Mr. Chew.
- 2:20:19Speaker 3: There was a, there was at the very end, there
- 2:20:20was this very racist cartoon beaver and he would have
- 2:20:23like the buck teeth and the rice hat. And then
- 2:20:25he would rate every girl at a fortune, like out
- 2:20:28of five fortune cookies at the end of each video.
- 2:20:31Speaker 2: That was the whole premise of the site.
- 2:20:35Speaker 3: That's what we were coming up with important. And then
- 2:20:37one day, and we'd watch that together in like seventh grade.
- 2:20:39Like that's the, our, our huddling around the magazine.
- 2:20:42Speaker 5: Hmm.
- 2:20:42Speaker 3: And then one day we invited the weird guy and
- 2:20:44he had found one where people fuck animals.
- 2:20:48Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like wild.
- 2:20:50Speaker 3: And there's been very famous videos. I think there's one
- 2:20:52called like Mr. Hands or something like that.
- 2:20:54Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. There's very famous. Like those originated out of
- 2:20:56those sites. And so he was showing us that.
- 2:20:59Speaker 3: And then what I said on stage is it gave
- 2:21:02me the life experience to know that sometimes when you
- 2:21:06watch people fuck a dog, sometimes the dog enjoys it.
- 2:21:10Speaker 2: And they all looked at me like I was horrified,
- 2:21:12which is a kind of horrifying thing to say. But
- 2:21:13I was also like, well, you brought it up.
- 2:21:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:21:15Speaker 2: I wasn't going to tell the story unless you asked me.
- 2:21:18Speaker 1: Some dogs must like it. There's probably a girl dog
- 2:21:21out there that likes some dick.
- 2:21:22Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, there's probably a guy dog out there
- 2:21:24that's giving some dick right now.
- 2:21:26Speaker 2: For sure. Oh, yeah. To some crazy ladies.
- 2:21:28Speaker 1: I've seen videos when I was a kid. There was
- 2:21:30like this video that a friend of mine had. And
- 2:21:33I remember one of us had to watch the door.
- 2:21:35So it was like there's a century. Yeah. Cause there's
- 2:21:39a door down into the basement. So one of us
- 2:21:40had to stand up at the door and the rest
- 2:21:42of us were huddled in front of this fucking 12
- 2:21:45inch television with a VCR attached to it.
- 2:21:48Speaker 2: Damn.
- 2:21:49Speaker 1: And you put the VHS tape in there. We're watching
- 2:21:51like a copy of a copy of a copy of
- 2:21:54barnyard Betty and barnyard Betty was this crate. They took
- 2:21:57some crazy crackhead and they gave her money to suck
- 2:22:01a dog's dick and get fucked by a German shepherd.
- 2:22:04It's crazy.
- 2:22:05Speaker 2: Weird to watch man yeah you come across some weird
- 2:22:08shit out there dog just.
- 2:22:10Speaker 1: Pump nut into this fucking poor drunken sad alcoholic drug
- 2:22:15addict lady.
- 2:22:16Speaker 2: Jesus sad yeah sad yeah that's a but that's yeah
- 2:22:22that's that's how fuck well porn's fucked it's just so
- 2:22:26it's so crazy how it's just moved towards I guess
- 2:22:29it's more empowering I guess what it's about individual creators.
- 2:22:32Speaker 1: Right, like OnlyFans?
- 2:22:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:22:34Speaker 1: Do you know the numbers? You ever seen the numbers?
- 2:22:36Speaker 2: I saw the one lady that makes more than LeBron.
- 2:22:39Speaker 1: Yeah, that, but I mean the number of actual girls
- 2:22:42that are on OnlyFans.
- 2:22:43Speaker 2: Oh, it must be depressing.
- 2:22:45Speaker 1: It's crazy.
- 2:22:46Speaker 2: Yeah, and it must be depressing how many people are
- 2:22:47selling themselves to like nobody.
- 2:22:49Speaker 1: Exactly. That's the thing. The vast majority aren't making any money. Right.
- 2:22:53And then their pussy's out there forever.
- 2:22:55Speaker 2: Just forever.
- 2:22:55Speaker 1: Yeah. They're getting fucked by a dildo in front of
- 2:22:58the whole world. And the guy saves it on his
- 2:22:59hard drive forever and ever and ever and ever.
- 2:23:01Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:23:02Speaker 1: And you were 19 and you just didn't want to work.
- 2:23:05But I think the number between girls of 18 to,
- 2:23:08I forget what the age is, something in their 20s,
- 2:23:09it's like 10%. That's crazy.
- 2:23:14Speaker 2: That's wild. But it's content creation.
- 2:23:15Speaker 3: It's like that's a genuine market that people are going for,
- 2:23:18and that's the way to do it.
- 2:23:19Speaker 1: It's also pornography.
- 2:23:20Speaker 2: It is pornography.
- 2:23:21Speaker 1: Right, but I mean content creation is TikTok, Instagram.
- 2:23:24Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:23:25Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that's content creation.
- 2:23:27Speaker 2: I think they view it in the same vein. Wow. Well,
- 2:23:31it depends on what you do, right? I know that
- 2:23:33top lady, and this is something.
- 2:23:35Speaker 1: Sophie Rain.
- 2:23:35Speaker 2: Sophie Rain.
- 2:23:36Speaker 3: And this is something that's just interesting across all Gen
- 2:23:38Z is that her thing is that she's a virgin.
- 2:23:40Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:23:41Speaker 3: And that's how she sells, which is like, yeah, which,
- 2:23:44you know, take it for what it is. But like
- 2:23:46her and that the Nick Shirley guy, virgin Nick Fuentes, virgin.
- 2:23:50It's like that's like a thing that you can sell
- 2:23:52to Gen Z is virginity.
- 2:23:54Speaker 1: Yeah, you were talking to me about this in the
- 2:23:56green room that like this incel problem is unrecognized. There's
- 2:24:00a giant percentage of people that are like voluntarily celibate
- 2:24:03in this country.
- 2:24:04Speaker 2: Yes, I think so.
- 2:24:05Speaker 3: And it's like a lot of it is maybe this
- 2:24:07sort of new religious, this sort of religious fervor that's
- 2:24:10sort of developing with them as well because Gen Z
- 2:24:12is more religious.
- 2:24:13Speaker 1: Yeah, but aren't they horny? I don't get it.
- 2:24:14Speaker 2: They're not. There's something like some crazy amount of women
- 2:24:18under 25 have never been approached by a guy their
- 2:24:20age like in public. What? Yeah, yeah.
- 2:24:24Speaker 3: The game is DM, so it's all online, so it's
- 2:24:26all fueling that sort of loneliness.
- 2:24:28Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't go out. They don't go out.
- 2:24:31Speaker 3: Alcohol consumption from Gen Z to millennials is like they
- 2:24:33drink 800% less, some.
- 2:24:35Speaker 2: Crazy shit like that. Third spaces, you know the concept
- 2:24:38of a third space?
- 2:24:39Speaker 1: No.
- 2:24:40Speaker 3: Okay, so you have work and home. That's space one,
- 2:24:43space two. And a third space is like, you know,
- 2:24:47when I was in college.
- 2:24:48Speaker 2: We'd go to the bowling alley every day for one summer.
- 2:24:51Speaker 1: It was stuff like that.
- 2:24:51Speaker 2: It's a place that you can all go. The library,
- 2:24:53the mall, places to exist outside of the two spaces.
- 2:24:56Those places are completely disappearing. Whether people are staying inside
- 2:24:59all the time or they've become too expensive. Like movies
- 2:25:03now are like very expensive. So it's like kind of
- 2:25:05priced out of being a third space on top of
- 2:25:07all the things that are going on with movies. So
- 2:25:09those are also disappearing. So places where you can meet
- 2:25:12someone in person are gone. So they're not meeting in person.
- 2:25:17A lot of it is app driven and And, you know.
- 2:25:22Speaker 1: And then you got to wonder about like sex drive
- 2:25:24drop off because.
- 2:25:26Speaker 2: Well, you can access porn. Like, like instantly now.
- 2:25:31Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:25:31Speaker 2: So you can at least play that part of your brain.
- 2:25:34Give it something.
- 2:25:36Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:25:36Speaker 3: Give it a rush of some kind that it would
- 2:25:38kind maybe get from like a lesser version of sex,
- 2:25:41but still feel, fill that void.
- 2:25:43Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:25:43Speaker 2: You can, you know, there's.
- 2:25:44Speaker 1: Also testosterone levels have dropped. Like, Fertility levels amongst women
- 2:25:49have dropped. Yeah. Miscarriages have risen.
- 2:25:52Speaker 2: The West, the West, the fertility rates in the West
- 2:25:56are like massively concerning. Like it's, you know, people like
- 2:26:00worry about bringing in migrants. But at the same time,
- 2:26:02there's the only ones having kids at replacement level like
- 2:26:06the West isn't having that. I had my I had
- 2:26:08my 15 year high school reunion recently and I was
- 2:26:11in town. I was like, I'll go to this. And
- 2:26:13I was like, damn, I'll probably be the only one
- 2:26:14who's like not married and doesn't have kids. And most
- 2:26:17of the people weren't married or didn't have kids. How
- 2:26:20old are you now?
- 2:26:21Speaker 1: 33. Wow. Most?
- 2:26:24Speaker 3: Most of the people there just, I would say, yeah,
- 2:26:26didn't have kids, which is wild. 33 at any other generation,
- 2:26:30this is a late time to not have a kid.
- 2:26:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:26:33Speaker 3: This is pretty, for people who grew up middle class millennial,
- 2:26:37I would say this is pretty standard.
- 2:26:40Speaker 2: To not have a kid. And there's certain, I think,
- 2:26:42driving factors too. The fact that a house is unbuyable
- 2:26:47for a lot of people my age and younger. Because
- 2:26:50you're sold the dream on a house and two kids. Well,
- 2:26:52if you can't get the house, it sucks to be
- 2:26:56renting with kids.
- 2:26:57Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:26:57Speaker 2: You know, the instability.
- 2:27:00Speaker 1: Average home buyer age is increasing while the median age
- 2:27:03for all U.S. home buyers reaching 59. Whoa, that's pretty late.
- 2:27:07Speaker 2: Yeah, record high.
- 2:27:08Speaker 1: Late 2025.
- 2:27:08Speaker 2: 40. 40.
- 2:27:10Speaker 1: Median age for first-time buyers hit a record high of 40. Wow.
- 2:27:13Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like that's how long you have to, like,
- 2:27:16it's hard to raise a kid without a house, you know?
- 2:27:19Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 2:27:20Speaker 2: And the American, I.
- 2:27:21Speaker 3: Think the American community in that way is dying because, like,
- 2:27:24you know, it takes a village to raise a child.
- 2:27:26So you raise a child in a house you bought,
- 2:27:28your neighbors generally say the same. There's a certain level
- 2:27:31of comfort and, like, you know, oh, my mom can
- 2:27:34do this thing for me.
- 2:27:34Speaker 2: I can go to my neighbor's house. And you know
- 2:27:35what I mean? There's safety in that. But if everyone
- 2:27:37around you is a renter, then your community kind of dies.
- 2:27:40of disappears yeah there's no like set community that's a
- 2:27:44really good point and it's like bringing up a kid's
- 2:27:48need consistency so bringing up in a world that's constantly
- 2:27:52shifting it's it's probably anxiety inducing to people who can't
- 2:27:57afford homes For sure. Definitely on that. And then child
- 2:28:00care is expensive.
- 2:28:01Speaker 1: Then if also your friends aren't doing it, you know,
- 2:28:04and then women are waiting later and later because they
- 2:28:06want to prolong their careers. Right. And then it becomes harder.
- 2:28:10And then you get into in vitro fertilization.
- 2:28:12Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely some this this with this wave of
- 2:28:16feminism and capitalism. There's definitely some like insidious ties there
- 2:28:20of just like you can you can like work. create
- 2:28:26capital for us, and then make it so it's impossible
- 2:28:30or very hard for one working house spouse to, like,
- 2:28:33just if the man is working.
- 2:28:34Speaker 2: To raise a kid.
- 2:28:35Speaker 1: Do you think it's on purpose?
- 2:28:36Speaker 2: I think.
- 2:28:40Speaker 3: Maybe it didn't start on purpose, but I think it
- 2:28:42sort of became intertwined.
- 2:28:44Speaker 1: Well, isn't it just a.
- 2:28:47Just a side effect of if women want to pursue careers,
- 2:28:50you're going to have less children.
- 2:28:51Speaker 3: But that is for sure. But there's a thing about it.
- 2:28:56There's this like almost demonization of the women who choose
- 2:29:00to stay at home.
- 2:29:00Speaker 2: Like, you know, it's like, oh, a trad wife. It's
- 2:29:02looked down on.
- 2:29:03Speaker 1: But isn't that just because of the women that are
- 2:29:05pursuing careers that give them that look down on?
- 2:29:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
- 2:29:10Speaker 1: And it's probably because they secretly feel like maybe they're
- 2:29:13missing out.
- 2:29:14Speaker 3: Maybe it's to me, it's like, it's so funny that
- 2:29:18both can exist. It can be the woman that go
- 2:29:19for their careers and the woman that want to stay home.
- 2:29:20Speaker 2: It's just for one group to demonize the other. I think,
- 2:29:23I think it's just very interesting.
- 2:29:24Speaker 1: Yeah. It is weird, but it's also like population drop
- 2:29:27is a real thing.
- 2:29:29Speaker 3: It does look like the humanity. Have you ever seen
- 2:29:31that population curve of the deer?
- 2:29:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:29:34Speaker 3: It's like, so I think humanity is kind of at
- 2:29:36that point where it levels off.
- 2:29:38Speaker 1: Hmm. Have you? Yeah.
- 2:29:39Speaker 3: Cause I remember my bio classes there, which that would
- 2:29:41be the popular, like, Yeah, the exponential growth and then
- 2:29:44the level off. And we've had the exponential growth and
- 2:29:47we're looking like that part of the graph.
- 2:29:49Speaker 1: Well, the thing is like there is still exponential growth.
- 2:29:51It's just not in the West. That's what's kind of weird.
- 2:29:53Speaker 2: Right, right.
- 2:29:54Speaker 1: It's poor people. Poor people want to have a bunch
- 2:29:56of kids and they're having them all the time. Right.
- 2:29:59And then they want to come over here.
- 2:30:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:30:01Speaker 1: Take over Minnesota.
- 2:30:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:30:04Speaker 1: And then have their kids in daycare that doesn't exist.
- 2:30:07Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:30:07Speaker 3: But yeah, there is something happening in the West or
- 2:30:10like the way that like the South Korea and Japan.
- 2:30:13Speaker 1: Oh, they're fucked.
- 2:30:14Speaker 3: They're like fucked. They're like actually fucked. They're like a
- 2:30:16couple generations away from like how you're going to support
- 2:30:18this whole thing.
- 2:30:19Speaker 2: Right. Unless you let people in.
- 2:30:21Speaker 1: Well, or you encourage people to have kids. If you
- 2:30:25turn it around with the youngest people and then you
- 2:30:27have like a blip for a while, but then it
- 2:30:29gets back to it. But man, you have to like
- 2:30:31make a concerted effort. And how do you encourage people
- 2:30:33to have children? Because you're going to have to have
- 2:30:35women that don't pursue careers.
- 2:30:38Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:30:38Speaker 1: If you're going to have five kids, what are you
- 2:30:41going to do? You're working all day?
- 2:30:43Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:30:43Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy. When you have kids, you realize
- 2:30:46how nuts that is because it's like, man, your kids,
- 2:30:48they want their parents. That's good for them to have
- 2:30:51their parents around, especially in this world of predators and
- 2:30:54creeps and weirdos and things that can happen at daycare. Yeah.
- 2:31:00Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's– I don't know how they would– incentivize
- 2:31:05that to happen.
- 2:31:05Speaker 1: How do you?
- 2:31:06Speaker 2: Yeah. You can't, you can't really.
- 2:31:08Speaker 1: Yeah. Because people are selfish. They want what they want
- 2:31:11in their life. And you know, when Elon's like, Oh,
- 2:31:13we're experiencing population collapse. They're like, so not me. Bye. Right.
- 2:31:17I'm going to the movies with my friends. You know
- 2:31:19what I mean? Like the idea of changing diapers. Like
- 2:31:21I don't want, I don't like her that much to
- 2:31:24stick around with her for the next 18 years. Yeah.
- 2:31:26Speaker 3: You also, you also, when you have the ability to
- 2:31:29choose everyone at your fingertips, you It's like Netflix. When
- 2:31:32you can watch everything, you watch nothing. So we can
- 2:31:35choose everyone.
- 2:31:35Speaker 2: You don't commit to anything. Right.
- 2:31:37Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just because everything is these sort of superfluous, like,
- 2:31:41kind of deep relationships.
- 2:31:43Speaker 1: I know a lot of people that have used the
- 2:31:44apps and then found someone and got off the apps.
- 2:31:47So there are people, but generally they're a little older.
- 2:31:49Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 2:31:50Speaker 1: Right?
- 2:31:50Speaker 2: Yes, they're, like, at a certain age you sort of, like,
- 2:31:53Look for that.
- 2:31:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:31:55Speaker 3: But like in your early 20s, when people were like
- 2:31:57settling down in their 20s beforehand, it made sense. They
- 2:32:00were the only person around maybe like– but now you're
- 2:32:02in a city. You can just– it can be like
- 2:32:04in a big one in New York where there's like
- 2:32:06an endless stream of people. There's no reason to make
- 2:32:10a choice if you don't want to.
- 2:32:12Speaker 1: I saw a video of a lady who created an
- 2:32:15app where a man is allowed to pay for her
- 2:32:19preparation for the date. So the man sends her money
- 2:32:23so that she can get her nails done, get clothes
- 2:32:27for the day, all these different things for the day.
- 2:32:29And this lady set up this app.
- 2:32:31Speaker 2: Damn.
- 2:32:32Speaker 1: A mic. Smart. It's kind of prostitution. I mean, it's sure.
- 2:32:36I mean, it's kind of without the guarantee of sex.
- 2:32:40Speaker 2: I know.
- 2:32:40Speaker 1: It's weird. You're not just showing up. These are my clothes.
- 2:32:43I drove here in my car. I'm meeting a person. No,
- 2:32:46it's that person is paying me to prepare for our date.
- 2:32:49Speaker 2: Right. And creating me into a person in his head.
- 2:32:53Speaker 1: Well, you're going to get a very different kind of
- 2:32:55person that's going to meet you. You're going to get
- 2:32:57a kind of person that's willing to give you money immediately.
- 2:33:01Before he has any connection with you at all.
- 2:33:03Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:33:03Speaker 1: Like he might meet you and you're fucking super annoying.
- 2:33:06And he's like, God damn it. I gave that bitch
- 2:33:08a hundred bucks.
- 2:33:09Speaker 2: That's so funny. That's a Richard.
- 2:33:10Speaker 3: Well, I think it was Richard Feynman. He was talking
- 2:33:12about getting girls cause he was good at it. And
- 2:33:14he was like, yeah, I never paid for the drink
- 2:33:16on the first date.
- 2:33:17Speaker 2: Wow.
- 2:33:18Speaker 1: Never.
- 2:33:18Speaker 2: Something like that.
- 2:33:19Speaker 1: That seems kind of crazy.
- 2:33:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:33:20Speaker 1: Yeah. That's not going to get a lot of quality women. Ah,
- 2:33:23well maybe it was back then it was different. Yeah.
- 2:33:25Speaker 2: And you're kind of famous in your world.
- 2:33:28Speaker 1: Yeah. He's a, famous brilliant guy the scientists back then
- 2:33:31were all like rock stars isn't that.
- 2:33:33Speaker 2: Crazy yeah yeah they're all like just fucking everyone around
- 2:33:35them yeah yeah yeah and that was just making the
- 2:33:38atomic bomb just fucking losing their minds.
- 2:33:41Speaker 1: That was the crazy thing about the Oppenheimer thing right
- 2:33:44Oppenheimer was a freak Good for him. It's just out
- 2:33:47there getting his fuck on.
- 2:33:48Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:33:48Speaker 2: Fucking communist chicks. Yeah.
- 2:33:51Speaker 1: They're probably fun. Oh yeah.
- 2:33:53Speaker 3: That's living, especially back then, that's living dangerously. That's the,
- 2:33:55that's the same level of, that's the same level of
- 2:33:58come as the gay Republican Senator.
- 2:33:59Speaker 2: It's like, this is, this is banned. Right.
- 2:34:02Speaker 1: Right. How many gay Republican senators do you think there are?
- 2:34:06I mean, Not zero.
- 2:34:08Speaker 2: Yeah. For sure.
- 2:34:10Speaker 1: In the closet, not zero.
- 2:34:11Speaker 3: No, definitely not. It is usually the ones that are
- 2:34:14like the most pro. Like anyone who's like still very
- 2:34:16pro anti-gay marriage now, like loudly, it's like, what's going
- 2:34:19on here?
- 2:34:19Speaker 1: Or really into war. We got to get those Iraqis
- 2:34:25out of their homes.
- 2:34:27Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 2:34:28Speaker 3: The fucking just so just war hawks with Iran's going
- 2:34:32through it right now.
- 2:34:33Speaker 1: What's going on right now?
- 2:34:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:34:34Speaker 2: You don't know what's happening.
- 2:34:35Speaker 1: I know about the protests. I know about killing the protesters.
- 2:34:38Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that's what. Yeah.
- 2:34:39Speaker 1: And it seems like there's some sort of a strike
- 2:34:41that may be imminent. Doesn't it? It feels like it.
- 2:34:45Like from the United States. Yeah.
- 2:34:47Speaker 2: I think the U.S. is kind of going to stay
- 2:34:50back for a little bit.
- 2:34:50Speaker 1: You think so?
- 2:34:51Speaker 2: A week in Iran is that they're weak right now.
- 2:34:54Because they're dealing with internal strife.
- 2:34:55Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy to see how many people are
- 2:34:57on the streets.
- 2:34:58Speaker 3: I mean, the average Iranian civilian has gotten a pretty
- 2:35:03raw deal since the 50s, since we installed the Shah.
- 2:35:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:35:09Speaker 3: We installed the Shah, and then Khomeini comes and is like, hey,
- 2:35:13remember the democracy they stole from you?
- 2:35:14Speaker 2: Because we had deposed an elected leader. well, we'll bring
- 2:35:18it back. And they're like, okay.
- 2:35:20Speaker 3: And then the clerics just took over and fucked them.
- 2:35:22And they've just been a constant stream of like the average,
- 2:35:25the average of any incident is just getting fucked by
- 2:35:27outside forces for so long.
- 2:35:29Speaker 1: Well, it's all about the nationalization of their oil. Yep.
- 2:35:32They wanted to nationalize their oil. And we were like, no, play.
- 2:35:36Speaker 2: Fuck that. Fuck that. You think you're going to have
- 2:35:39control over your own state? Get out of here.
- 2:35:40Speaker 1: Did you, you heard Metzger's theory about Venezuela last night? No.
- 2:35:45He's like– he goes, I think, I think Maduro is
- 2:35:49secretly working for the CIA. He helped them arrest him
- 2:35:53and then he is going to testify that the 2020
- 2:35:56elections were rigged.
- 2:35:58Speaker 2: Wow, if that comes true, what a Babe Ruth call.
- 2:36:00What a point to the sky that is. That's crazy.
- 2:36:04Speaker 1: If that comes true, I'm buying you a car. Find
- 2:36:07a car you really like. We're going to get you
- 2:36:09a car.
- 2:36:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
- 2:36:10Speaker 1: You need an American muscle car. I'll get you a
- 2:36:12Mustang GT or something.
- 2:36:13Speaker 2: But I will say this. When the Iranians protest, it's
- 2:36:15like admirable because you know they're going to die.
- 2:36:18Speaker 1: A lot of them have already died. They killed thousands
- 2:36:20of them.
- 2:36:20Speaker 2: A lot of them died.
- 2:36:21Speaker 3: And the same with the hijab protests where just women
- 2:36:23were disappearing for not wearing a hijab.
- 2:36:25Speaker 2: It's like, damn, bro. That's how bad it got. They
- 2:36:28really like it. They've gotten a raw deal historically for
- 2:36:32the last half a century and they're still fighting. Yeah.
- 2:36:35Speaker 1: Crazy. Yeah.
- 2:36:36Speaker 2: I read when I was a kid, I read this
- 2:36:38book called Persepolis. It's in my like greatest books of
- 2:36:40all time.
- 2:36:41Speaker 3: But it's I read Persepolis and I was like maybe
- 2:36:45in high school, early, late middle school. And I just
- 2:36:47realized like, oh, man, because you get. bombarded especially at
- 2:36:51that time we're in fighting in the middle east you
- 2:36:52get bombarded with propaganda of like what these people like
- 2:36:55over there and i'm reading persepolis i'm like oh right
- 2:36:57they're just people like she has a scene where she's
- 2:36:59just wanting to listen to music with her friends but
- 2:37:01the islamic police is like we'll fucking fuck them up
- 2:37:06if they get caught and they just have these secret
- 2:37:08parties with just listening to.
- 2:37:09Speaker 1: Music secret listening to music just listen to music jail
- 2:37:13yeah just regular things what is this venezuela opposition opposition
- 2:37:18litter maria uh Corina Machado, insists that Maduro rigged the
- 2:37:232020 U.S. elections against Donald Trump and many other elections
- 2:37:26in the region. What?
- 2:37:28Speaker 2: How? How?
- 2:37:30Speaker 5: Saw that going around, too, so I don't know that
- 2:37:31Kurt's too crazy on that one.
- 2:37:33Speaker 1: What?
- 2:37:34Speaker 5: Yeah, this isn't even the first one. This is just
- 2:37:36how I'm showing you the data.
- 2:37:37Speaker 1: How could Maduro rig United States elections?
- 2:37:41Speaker 2: Yeah, where is that power coming from? All of a sudden,
- 2:37:45because if the power to rig election, do you think
- 2:37:46he would be able to stop himself from getting arrested?
- 2:37:48Speaker 1: This is from the Gray Zone. It says Hugo El
- 2:37:52Polo Carvajal is likely to serve as the star witness
- 2:37:57for the U.S. against Maduro. Max Blumenthal reveals Carvajal is
- 2:38:02a coerced witness who cut a secret plea deal to
- 2:38:05save himself. He's even indulging the Trump Trump's conspiracy theory
- 2:38:09that Venezuela rigged the 2020 U.S. election.
- 2:38:15Speaker 2: What's the gray zone?
- 2:38:16Speaker 1: I think that's Max Blumenthal's show.
- 2:38:18Speaker 2: Okay, so that's like a source?
- 2:38:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:38:21Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
- 2:38:22Speaker 1: He's legit.
- 2:38:23Speaker 2: Okay.
- 2:38:23Speaker 1: Yeah. Anti-war guy. So if he's saying that, maybe there's
- 2:38:29something to it. Damn.
- 2:38:33Speaker 2: In what mechanism would Maduro be able to.
- 2:38:36Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
- 2:38:36Speaker 2: To do an election.
- 2:38:37Speaker 1: Okay, let's find that out. How do they think Maduro
- 2:38:40had a hand in rigging the 2020 election? What's the conspiracy?
- 2:38:43Speaker 3: Yeah, was it like he did all the, like he
- 2:38:46helped with the mail-in votes?
- 2:38:48Speaker 2: Right. Because that's the only way you could steal that election, right?
- 2:38:50Speaker 1: Like, Venezuela's pretty far away.
- 2:38:52Speaker 5: Here's a tweet from before the election even happened.
- 2:38:56Speaker 1: Nicolas Maduro's campaign manager... This is from 2024. Just went
- 2:39:00on national TV to declare victory despite exit polls showing
- 2:39:03a historic loss for their socialist regime. They're setting up
- 2:39:08to commit a bigger election theft in the 2020 election
- 2:39:11in the United States. That's not that's just someone's opinion. Yeah.
- 2:39:16Speaker 2: How does that add up?
- 2:39:17Speaker 1: They're stealing the election.
- 2:39:18Speaker 2: Yeah, because they stole it in Venezuela.
- 2:39:20Speaker 1: But they did steal it in Venezuela.
- 2:39:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure.
- 2:39:24Speaker 1: What does it say? It says he did clearly stole
- 2:39:30Venezuela's election, threatened bloodshed if he lost, restricted... What is that?
- 2:39:38Speaker 2: Intel?
- 2:39:39Speaker 1: International observers. Blocked transmission of results.
- 2:39:44Speaker 2: Yeah, that definitely happened.
- 2:39:46Speaker 3: I mean, it was very telling how happy the Venezuelans
- 2:39:48in America were when he was gone. That was a
- 2:39:52genuine thing if they were very very pleased about that
- 2:39:56yeah and then you had people you had like white
- 2:39:59leftists be like this is bad.
- 2:40:02Speaker 1: Yeah yeah you're supporting a dictator it's like in the
- 2:40:04way they did it was so unprecedented going and stormed
- 2:40:08the fucking castle and steal the.
- 2:40:09Speaker 3: Guy yeah kind of shows the power like it kind
- 2:40:12of tells also the other countries like hey back off.
- 2:40:15Speaker 1: Well it's pretty crazy what they did if it's true
- 2:40:18with that whole sonar weapon or sound weapon whatever it
- 2:40:21did that like literally like makes your organs bubble Everybody, like,
- 2:40:25falls to the ground. They're writhing in pain and agony.
- 2:40:28And then they just stormed in. And everybody was incapacitated.
- 2:40:31Speaker 2: Damn.
- 2:40:31Speaker 1: Stormed in, fucked everybody up. And that was a wrap.
- 2:40:34Speaker 2: Well, if that's what war is becoming, that's kind of better.
- 2:40:37Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy.
- 2:40:38Speaker 2: That's kind of better than, like, ground troops and nonstop
- 2:40:41fighting and 20 years in Afghanistan.
- 2:40:45Speaker 1: Okay. Here's lawyer Sidney Powell in 2020 talking about Maduro
- 2:40:49having access to voting fraud technology. Maduro is going to
- 2:40:53sing like a canary and the Democrats are screwed. No
- 2:40:55wonder why. Okay.
- 2:40:56Speaker 2: Is that lady even real?
- 2:40:58Speaker 1: Who?
- 2:40:58Speaker 3: That looks like a– The avatar? The person tweeting this. See,
- 2:41:05this reeks of bot to me.
- 2:41:06Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Follow me for breaking news.
- 2:41:09Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you know? Or just guy
- 2:41:14clearly– account clearly just making stuff up.
- 2:41:17Speaker 1: See if you can find an account of how they
- 2:41:19did it. Because there's an account by someone who was
- 2:41:22a witness that was there at the scene that said
- 2:41:25how fucking crazy it was. These guys came out of nowhere.
- 2:41:28The helicopters came out of nowhere. The drones, they shut
- 2:41:30down all the radar. Everything got shut down. And then
- 2:41:33all of a sudden there's drones flying everywhere and helicopters.
- 2:41:37And these dudes, 20 guys, killed, you know, who knows
- 2:41:41how many fucking humans.
- 2:41:42Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:41:43Speaker 1: No one got killed on the American side. They captured
- 2:41:45him and his wife, stuffed him back in the helicopter.
- 2:41:48Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:41:49Speaker 1: And they were in and out in 10 minutes.
- 2:41:50Speaker 2: In 10 minutes, yeah.
- 2:41:51Speaker 3: There's a very famous video of a Twitch streamer in
- 2:41:54Venezuela just out in the streets, and then everything just.
- 2:41:59Speaker 1: Really?
- 2:41:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:42:00Speaker 1: Whoa.
- 2:42:00Speaker 2: Yeah. It just goes dark.
- 2:42:02Speaker 1: That's crazy. Damn. That's crazy.
- 2:42:05Speaker 2: And yeah, you can, and you're a human. You can
- 2:42:06tell like, Oh, something's up. Yeah. This is not a normal,
- 2:42:09everything like all the street, like it went just dark.
- 2:42:11Speaker 1: Well, it's crazy because we knew they had some really
- 2:42:13wild technology, but they didn't know. We didn't know what
- 2:42:16they were capable of until we've seen this. And I'm like, Oh,
- 2:42:19what's really interesting is my friend Evan Hafer was talking
- 2:42:22about that like a year ago on the podcast. He
- 2:42:26was talking about it maybe less than a year. He's like,
- 2:42:28if we go to war with the cartels, like, they
- 2:42:31have no idea what kind of ultraviolence they're in for.
- 2:42:36He's like, the shit that these guys are going to
- 2:42:39do when they're going to plan this out. They built
- 2:42:42a replica of his house and they went through it blindfolded. Yeah.
- 2:42:47So they know exactly where every turn is, where to go.
- 2:42:51They war planned this for a long time.
- 2:42:53Speaker 5: The last thing was– false story.
- 2:42:55Speaker 2: Oh, it was false?
- 2:42:56Speaker 1: Which one? Oh, the live stream going out?
- 2:42:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:42:59Speaker 1: Right, but find the account of the witness.
- 2:43:01Speaker 5: Yeah, I was looking for that and I stumbled across
- 2:43:03that on the way to it.
- 2:43:04Speaker 2: Okay.
- 2:43:05Speaker 1: The account of the guy who said he was there,
- 2:43:07if it's accurate, is crazy. Because he basically said they
- 2:43:11just incapacitated everyone and then just went in and murdered
- 2:43:15everybody and pulled out Maduro. Like, no one could move.
- 2:43:19You can't do anything. And then these guys land in
- 2:43:21helicopters and everyone's writhing in agony like... Just running through. Damn.
- 2:43:27Whacked everybody. No one got shot back at. Crazy.
- 2:43:30Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's what warfare, outside of what's
- 2:43:33happening in Russia and Ukraine, that's kind of what warfare
- 2:43:35is now, right? Like, oh, is Israel going to go
- 2:43:38to war with Iran? We'll just quickly just take out
- 2:43:41all their generals real quick. And the threat of war
- 2:43:44is done.
- 2:43:45Speaker 1: You're dealing with. Venezuela versus the United States of America.
- 2:43:49Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:43:49Speaker 1: But if it was the United States of America versus Russia.
- 2:43:51Speaker 2: Or China, it would be a lot different.
- 2:43:53Speaker 1: It's a lot more fucked up. Yeah. Venezuela doesn't have
- 2:43:55nuclear bombs. That's why you can get away with shit
- 2:43:58like this.
- 2:43:58Speaker 2: Right, right. Yeah, that's a fair point.
- 2:44:02Speaker 1: That is part of the thing, you know. And then
- 2:44:05it's like the whole thing is so transparent. Trump's like immediately,
- 2:44:08we're going to take the oil. There's plenty of oil.
- 2:44:11Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 2:44:11Speaker 1: Working on a deal.
- 2:44:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it was a coincidence that all
- 2:44:14of a sudden I had gas under $ 2 last week
- 2:44:17in the gas station across the street. I was like, huh,
- 2:44:20I wonder if that's Venezuela related.
- 2:44:21Speaker 1: Not in California. California gas companies are pulling out. Valero
- 2:44:26pulled out of California. It's going to cost them $ 1 billion.
- 2:44:30And they're like, yeah. It's not worth it. Rather leave.
- 2:44:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:44:34Speaker 1: Damn. Fuck you.
- 2:44:36Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the cost of living there is so high too.
- 2:44:38Speaker 3: It's like, like when we talk about like young comics,
- 2:44:41it's like, it's what you have in Austin is like
- 2:44:45at least a way, a much cheaper quality of life.
- 2:44:48Speaker 1: And better.
- 2:44:49Speaker 2: And better. Yeah.
- 2:44:50Speaker 3: Where you have space and like, you know, things are
- 2:44:52more expensive than anywhere else in Texas, probably for sure.
- 2:44:55But like, it's still like gas was under $ 2. You
- 2:44:57can get, you can like rent is stabilizing. It's going down.
- 2:45:01It's going to go down.
- 2:45:02Speaker 2: I think, A lot of California and New York developers
- 2:45:04came in here, and they were like, Austin's where people are,
- 2:45:07so we can just build a lot. But in New
- 2:45:09York and California, you have a finite amount of space.
- 2:45:12And Austin, you can just build out. And once you
- 2:45:14build out, the rent at my place went down because
- 2:45:17people were like, oh, just buy a house out there.
- 2:45:18Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:45:19Speaker 2: And no one's living in the apartment complex.
- 2:45:22Speaker 1: If you live in Dripping Springs, it's way cheaper, and
- 2:45:24it's only 30 minutes away.
- 2:45:25Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 2:45:26Speaker 1: Everywhere in the country, 30-minute commute is normal.
- 2:45:28Speaker 2: Right. Right, yeah, it's normal. Here, what's nice about here
- 2:45:32is you'll see something that's 15 minutes, it'll be 15 miles.
- 2:45:35You'll be like, oh, that's normal. That's normal. Elliot, it's
- 2:45:39an hour. Yeah, it was an hour and a half. No,
- 2:45:41it was almost two hours.
- 2:45:42Speaker 3: I went from Redondo Beach to fucking Burbank after a
- 2:45:46podcast at five.
- 2:45:47Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I just... I should have
- 2:45:48just killed myself. That would have been a more effective
- 2:45:50use of my time.
- 2:45:52Speaker 1: Locked up.
- 2:45:52Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:45:53Speaker 1: When the 405 or the 5 gets locked up, it's depressing.
- 2:45:56Speaker 2: Oh, it's hell.
- 2:45:57Speaker 1: That trip down to San Diego, if you want to
- 2:45:59do the La Jolla store.
- 2:46:00Speaker 2: You got to leave early.
- 2:46:00Speaker 1: You got to leave at noon. Leave at noon. Because
- 2:46:03that means you'll be down in San Diego right around
- 2:46:05the time rush hour starts.
- 2:46:06Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Crazy.
- 2:46:09Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a cheaper place for a young comic who,
- 2:46:14if it's time to move to a place.
- 2:46:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:46:17Speaker 3: It's like Austin does offer a cheaper quality for quality
- 2:46:20stage time as well.
- 2:46:22Speaker 1: It's also just a better vibe. There's less tension. There's
- 2:46:25less people. Yes.
- 2:46:26Speaker 2: Yes.
- 2:46:27Speaker 3: I feel like there are times where I would take
- 2:46:30a day off in LA and I feel like I'm
- 2:46:32falling behind because everyone around you is so frantic.
- 2:46:35Speaker 2: And here it's like, oh, I can breathe. I can
- 2:46:37actually just enjoy this day off.
- 2:46:39Speaker 1: Which is important. You got to have some kind of balance. Yes.
- 2:46:43You want to be a little bit frantic. But then
- 2:46:45you got to achieve some balance and let your brain
- 2:46:47sort of recalibrate, come back on, just get a new perspective. Yeah.
- 2:46:53Speaker 2: Rest is so– this grind culture? Oh, here we go.
- 2:46:57Speaker 5: Get into this though. Same kind of thing.
- 2:46:59Speaker 1: I'll check the account. Fucked up account. Main proponent for
- 2:47:03the drive to recall Gavin Newsom, California needs to rebuild
- 2:47:05a better– So it might be a fake person.
- 2:47:07Speaker 5: And then there's no evidence to like a link or
- 2:47:11where they got the information from, which is why I
- 2:47:14just checked first. But they just have a long story here.
- 2:47:16Speaker 1: It just says interview security guard. So it could be
- 2:47:18total propaganda, right?
- 2:47:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:47:20Speaker 5: Made up from, you know, you could ask AI to
- 2:47:22make up a story.
- 2:47:22Speaker 1: Right. A good story to put on Twitter. Right.
- 2:47:26Speaker 2: And then, yeah, just.
- 2:47:26Speaker 1: Have you tried to find it anywhere else? Is it
- 2:47:28only from this one guy?
- 2:47:30Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was finding. It was Caroline Levitt
- 2:47:33shared it.
- 2:47:34Speaker 1: And this is the. That's the main account where she
- 2:47:37shared it from.
- 2:47:37Speaker 5: Stop what you're doing and read this. I Googled that
- 2:47:42and she said that a ton of times.
- 2:47:44Speaker 2: How long has Carolyn Levin been the press secretary this
- 2:47:46whole time? How quickly do they move past those?
- 2:47:50Speaker 1: They usually last about two years except for that last lady.
- 2:47:52Speaker 2: Except for the last one, yeah. I wonder if that
- 2:47:54set a precedent.
- 2:47:55Speaker 1: She decided to hang in there to the bitter end.
- 2:47:56They were trying to get rid of her. She sucked. St.
- 2:47:59Speaker 2: Pierre, right?
- 2:47:59Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever her name was. It wasn't St.
- 2:48:01Speaker 2: Pierre. It wasn't St. Pierre. I thought it was something
- 2:48:02like that.
- 2:48:03Speaker 1: Karine Jean-Pierre.
- 2:48:05Speaker 2: Okay, it was something Pierre. It was something Pierre, yeah, yeah.
- 2:48:07Speaker 1: Bro, she was terrible.
- 2:48:09Speaker 2: She did it forever.
- 2:48:09Speaker 1: And again, the president is committed. The president, like, she
- 2:48:13would do, like, the Obama thing.
- 2:48:14Speaker 2: With her fingers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:48:16Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here. They just try.
- 2:48:18Speaker 2: She had a lie all the time. Like, that's her job.
- 2:48:21Dead person.
- 2:48:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:48:23Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard to do.
- 2:48:24Speaker 3: That's pretty, like, you know, you have to keep juggling
- 2:48:27a lot to be like, oh, this dead person's still alive.
- 2:48:29Speaker 1: I thought he was going to die, like, immediately after
- 2:48:31he left office. I'm like, he's going to die soon. Like,
- 2:48:33real soon.
- 2:48:34Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of wild he's kept going.
- 2:48:36Speaker 1: But every now and then they'll trot him out and
- 2:48:38he'll start talking.
- 2:48:39Speaker 2: He'll be at an Eagles game. He'll be like, yeah,
- 2:48:40you know what's going on.
- 2:48:41Speaker 1: But every now and then he'll talk. They still let
- 2:48:45him talk. There's been a few of those where he'll
- 2:48:48talk like, thank God you didn't win.
- 2:48:50Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
- 2:48:52Speaker 1: If you came back and they never replaced Kamala with
- 2:48:55you and you won or you and Kamala and you
- 2:48:59won and you're this guy now.
- 2:49:01Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Well, he fucked them by– not bowing out. Yeah.
- 2:49:07Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, at least let him have a primary.
- 2:49:09Because then it just became Kamala versus Trump and the
- 2:49:12whole like, oh, vote for me to fight fascism. But
- 2:49:15no one voted for you in the first place.
- 2:49:16Speaker 1: The thing is, if they had a primary, who do
- 2:49:17you think would have been it? They probably would have
- 2:49:21made her. The Democrats would have decided on her anyway,
- 2:49:24I think.
- 2:49:24Speaker 3: Because it would have been too soon for Newsom to run.
- 2:49:26He still has that stink of COVID on him. So
- 2:49:28that's why he waited for this go around. Yeah, it's
- 2:49:30been enough. People have forgotten COVID enough.
- 2:49:32Speaker 1: Correct.
- 2:49:33Speaker 3: It's been half a decade since. People's minds, like, people's
- 2:49:38political memories are so short that, yeah, 2028, that's so
- 2:49:43far away from COVID that he can just be like, ah,
- 2:49:46I did fine or whatever the fuck.
- 2:49:47Speaker 1: Do you think so?
- 2:49:48Speaker 2: I think so. Enough to run, enough to probably get
- 2:49:52the nomination.
- 2:49:53Speaker 1: You think he's going to get the nomination? Who else?
- 2:49:55I feel like someone else can rise over the next
- 2:49:57three years.
- 2:49:58Speaker 3: Someone else would have– if it had been an Obama thing,
- 2:50:01it would be like someone would be rising in this
- 2:50:03upcoming midterm. So if there's someone like that, maybe.
- 2:50:07Speaker 1: But all it takes is someone who's a compelling speaker
- 2:50:09who's not demonstrably full of shit because the thing about
- 2:50:13him is he's so vulnerable to any kind of a debate.
- 2:50:15When someone starts talking about the fraud and waste in California,
- 2:50:17how about the high-speed rail? They spent billions of dollars
- 2:50:20on this fucking nothing.
- 2:50:21Speaker 2: Nothing.
- 2:50:22Speaker 1: Like, soon. We're going to get it done soon.
- 2:50:24Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:50:24Speaker 1: There's so much fraud. So much waste.
- 2:50:27Speaker 2: Yeah. But I don't think they have anything. Because you can,
- 2:50:30right now, all you can run, you can just run on, like,
- 2:50:33I'm not Trump. And that'll be enough to get people
- 2:50:36to be like, yeah, he's not Trump.
- 2:50:37Speaker 1: What about that Josh Shapiro guy? The guy who's governor
- 2:50:39of Pennsylvania? Maybe.
- 2:50:41Speaker 2: Maybe. I don't know. To me, it's just like a
- 2:50:45popularity contest, and he's making a lot of noise.
- 2:50:48Speaker 1: A lot of people upset with the Jews right now.
- 2:50:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a fair point. Shapiro? Hmm.
- 2:50:54Speaker 1: It just seems like... Hmm.
- 2:50:56Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:50:57Speaker 2: That's a good point.
- 2:50:58Speaker 3: It just seems like he's the one making the most noise,
- 2:51:01and we're getting towards crunch time. Not really, but it's
- 2:51:06the closer we get to the midterms, and there's no.
- 2:51:08Speaker 2: Other big voice around. It makes me feel like it's
- 2:51:11going to be him.
- 2:51:12Speaker 1: Well, clearly he wants to do it.
- 2:51:13Speaker 2: He definitely wants to do it. And he might just
- 2:51:16be powerful politically enough to win that nomination.
- 2:51:19Speaker 1: Imagine if that guy fucks up San Francisco, fucks up California,
- 2:51:23and then goes on to fuck up the whole country.
- 2:51:25Speaker 2: Oh, it's very possible. Maybe not very possible, but I
- 2:51:29think it's an outcome. It's an outcome. He's definitely running.
- 2:51:33It's going to be... I don't know what that ticket's
- 2:51:36going to be, but... They're going to make us all trans. Yeah,
- 2:51:40it's going to be like a Newsome Crockett. That's my
- 2:51:41early call of what.
- 2:51:42Speaker 1: They're going to try to run. No, shut the fuck up.
- 2:51:44Are you kidding?
- 2:51:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
- 2:51:46Speaker 1: Really?
- 2:51:47Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's who they're– because she's very revered.
- 2:51:50Speaker 1: Not AOC?
- 2:51:51Speaker 2: Maybe AOC.
- 2:51:52Speaker 1: I think AOC is more reasonable.
- 2:51:54Speaker 2: AOC is much more reasonable for sure.
- 2:51:56Speaker 1: Have you ever seen when Crockett and Marjorie Taylor Greene
- 2:51:58start going back and forth with each other, insulting each
- 2:52:01other and yelling at each other? No, that's– oh, yeah,
- 2:52:03I did.
- 2:52:04Speaker 2: I did see that. That's a very fun moment.
- 2:52:09Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be a representative. That's the thing. It's
- 2:52:12like all these successful business people and academics, like they
- 2:52:15don't want to do that.
- 2:52:16Speaker 2: No, it's all like lawyers and like– yeah.
- 2:52:19Speaker 1: And creeps.
- 2:52:19Speaker 2: And creeps.
- 2:52:20Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only– well, it's like it's one of
- 2:52:22those things where– you're right. The person who wants to
- 2:52:24do it probably isn't– or person who should do it probably.
- 2:52:27Speaker 2: Isn't going to want to do it.
- 2:52:27Speaker 1: 100 percent.
- 2:52:28Speaker 2: Because you do have to make decisions that negatively affect
- 2:52:31millions of people's lives sometimes.
- 2:52:33Speaker 1: And you've got to grease the pockets of your donors.
- 2:52:35Speaker 2: Yeah. And to be like a regular guy and want
- 2:52:38to do that probably would tear you apart. To be like, ah,
- 2:52:44here's a decision that will kill people. You've got to
- 2:52:45be kind of a sociopath.
- 2:52:47Speaker 1: What's really fucked is how much of an impact people
- 2:52:49like us have on elections now. That's what's nuts. Like
- 2:52:52podcasters have a big impact on elections now, which is
- 2:52:56really weird.
- 2:52:57Speaker 2: That's how much the mainstream media has kind of lost
- 2:53:00its lead.
- 2:53:00Speaker 1: Dropped the ball.
- 2:53:01Speaker 2: Dropped the ball hardcore.
- 2:53:03Speaker 1: Well, it's just by being unreliable, by being people that
- 2:53:06you can't trust.
- 2:53:07Speaker 3: And uncensored conversation is like people are going to trust
- 2:53:10them more because this is how people talk to their
- 2:53:12friends more often than not.
- 2:53:13Speaker 2: Yeah. Than like, oh, I can't say this because this
- 2:53:16sponsor is going to be mad at me.
- 2:53:17Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:53:18Speaker 2: You know, like this is just a much more accessible
- 2:53:21way of finding out people's real thoughts.
- 2:53:23Speaker 1: And a lot of it is just how we talk.
- 2:53:25I mean, there's been so many times we've been in
- 2:53:28the green room that totally could have been a podcast.
- 2:53:31Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:53:32Speaker 1: Just put a camera on it, live from the green room.
- 2:53:34It would fuck up the vibe. Right. But it would
- 2:53:35be a great podcast.
- 2:53:36Speaker 2: Yeah, it would.
- 2:53:37Speaker 1: It would fuck up the vibe.
- 2:53:38Speaker 2: Yeah, it would lose that quality that would make it
- 2:53:40a good podcast if we were trying to actually podcast.
- 2:53:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:53:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:53:43Speaker 1: Definitely. Definitely. All right, brother. Well, I'll see you tonight.
- 2:53:47Speaker 2: I'll see you tonight.
- 2:53:47Speaker 1: And tell everybody your special. It's out.
- 2:53:49Speaker 2: It's on YouTube.
- 2:53:50Speaker 1: It's on YouTube.
- 2:53:51Speaker 2: It's called Too Soon. Check it out. I'm very proud
- 2:53:54of this material.
- 2:53:55Speaker 1: It's great material, man. And you've been killing it. You've
- 2:53:57been killing it at the club. And the new stuff's fantastic, too.
- 2:53:59Speaker 2: Thank you. And yeah, go to Asana.
- 2:54:00Speaker 1: Look at that hair.
- 2:54:01Speaker 2: Look at that hair. Every time I've been on here,
- 2:54:03I've had different hair. Today I went cornrows. Yeah.
- 2:54:08Speaker 1: You've had the cornrows for a while now, right?
- 2:54:10Speaker 2: Just a week or so.
- 2:54:11Speaker 3: I did it for a sketch, and then I was like,
- 2:54:14I kind of like this. Yeah, it's crazy for this
- 2:54:17hairline to have cornrows.
- 2:54:18Speaker 1: All right, my brother. Appreciate you. See you tonight.
- 2:54:20Speaker 2: See you tonight.
- 2:54:21Speaker 1: Bye, everybody. Bye.