Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #1113 - Connection is King
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- 0:04Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.
- 0:07Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just
- 0:10Speaker 2: wants answers.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Now.
- 0:14Speaker 3: Yesterday, I'm a Happy Families podcast. Kylie, you and I
- 0:16Speaker 3: made a very big deal, a very big deal about
- 0:19Speaker 3: how we were well. I was buying back into what
- 0:21Speaker 3: do you call it again, Oh, Halloween.
- 0:23Speaker 2: That's right, just saying I was making a big deal
- 0:25Speaker 2: about it. You are the one who made promise.
- 0:27Speaker 3: I got caught up at the moment, didn't I. You did,
- 0:29Speaker 3: And shortly after the podcast went to air, I looked
- 0:31Speaker 3: at you and said, no, no, we're not doing it
- 0:34Speaker 3: after all. So we let the neighborhood down. This used
- 0:36Speaker 3: to be the Halloween House. No Halloween, but I did
- 0:40Speaker 3: take Emily out for a community trunk or treat that
- 0:42Speaker 3: I found happening, and that was fun. That was fun,
- 0:46Speaker 3: And that's all I have to say about it. I'm
- 0:49Speaker 3: not going to say anything else, too much, sugar, but
- 0:52Speaker 3: it nice to be in the community and nice to
- 0:53Speaker 3: say hi to some people and that kind of thing.
- 0:56Speaker 3: So I just I felt like, in the interest of integrity,
- 0:58Speaker 3: I needed to highlight that Halloween happened, but not quite
- 1:01Speaker 3: the way that we said it would. Yesterday on the podcast.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Well, today is all about I'll do better tomorrow.
- 1:05Speaker 3: So am I supposed to do better next year for Halloween?
- 1:08Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Yes, you're making some big admissions and commitments.
- 1:17Speaker 3: Two things that I want to bring up before we
- 1:18Speaker 3: dive into older better Tomorrow today. The first is that
- 1:22Speaker 3: last Saturday, you and I spoke at a conference in
- 1:25Speaker 3: a room full of about two hundred and sixty two
- 1:28Speaker 3: hundred and seventy dads. It was a room full of men.
- 1:31Speaker 3: You and two other women were the only women in
- 1:35Speaker 3: the room. Just a room full of men, and you
- 1:37Speaker 3: were brave enough to get up on stage and talk
- 1:39Speaker 3: for about ten minutes or thereabouts. We're going to share
- 1:42Speaker 3: your talk to the Fathers of Girls conference. We're going
- 1:46Speaker 3: to share that in the podcast in the next few days.
- 1:48Speaker 3: I just wanted to highlight it because it was brilliant
- 1:51Speaker 3: and you made a room of two hundred and sixty
- 1:53Speaker 3: dads cry, I mean not every one of them, but
- 1:56Speaker 3: almost all of them, and you had their rapt attention.
- 1:59Speaker 3: It was just sort of fabulous.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Maybe because it was the change of hormone.
- 2:04Speaker 3: Well they really they were responsive. I mean it was
- 2:08Speaker 3: rowdy for over an hour while lunch was served, and
- 2:11Speaker 3: there was a fair bit of alcohol consumed as well.
- 2:13Speaker 3: But once you stood up and started to speak, they
- 2:15Speaker 3: were focused and they listened to every word, and the
- 2:18Speaker 3: feedback from it was just beautiful. You did a great job.
- 2:21Speaker 3: So we enjoyed that so much, and a big thank
- 2:24Speaker 3: you to Luke and Shawan and the team from Fathers
- 2:25Speaker 3: of Girls. It's so funny. They've got this organization and
- 2:29Speaker 3: they raised money for charities, for a charity called Confident Girls.
- 2:32Speaker 3: They've raised what was it, something like, was it one
- 2:34Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand or one hundred and seventy five
- 2:36Speaker 3: thousand dollars that they've raised for this charity where they
- 2:38Speaker 3: just get dads of girls to show up, pay for
- 2:41Speaker 3: their lunches, make a contribution big money. Amazing, What a
- 2:45Speaker 3: difference it makes for girls who have additional needs or
- 2:48Speaker 3: who are in circumstances where they need assistance. Just brilliant stuff.
- 2:53Speaker 3: But you gave this talk and it was brilliant. So
- 2:55Speaker 3: we're going to bring that to you on the podcast
- 2:56Speaker 3: over the next few days. We'll find a slot and
- 2:58Speaker 3: make sure that we pop that in there. Second item
- 3:00Speaker 3: of news that I just quickly wanted to bring up
- 3:02Speaker 3: was the Australia Party North Queensland, Bob and Robbie Catter
- 3:07Speaker 3: making a whole lot of noise in the media. At
- 3:09Speaker 3: the moment, parents have.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Lost their rights to discipline the children.
- 3:12Speaker 3: Dumb kids need a smack.
- 3:14Speaker 1: A kick up.
- 3:14Speaker 3: There a ruler.
- 3:15Speaker 1: That's Margie Ryder. She's running for the Queensland Parliament in
- 3:18Speaker 1: the seat of Townsville ahead of this weekend state election.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Writer is part of Kata's Australian Party KAP, a conservative
- 3:24Speaker 1: leaning party calling for a return to physical punishment as
- 3:27Speaker 1: a form of child discipline. Think Cain's belts and rulers.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Because they want to bring back the jug cord, they
- 3:34Speaker 3: want to bring back the strap, they want to bring
- 3:36Speaker 3: back the caine in schools, corporal punishment back in schools.
- 3:40Speaker 3: And now that the LMP have won the Queensland election,
- 3:43Speaker 3: this is something that they're actually trying to bring up
- 3:45Speaker 3: on the agenda. It's not going to get through, It
- 3:47Speaker 3: will never fly, and they're completely misguided. They have no
- 3:51Speaker 3: concept of what the research says around this, clearly or
- 3:53Speaker 3: they wouldn't be saying it. But I'm just it's twenty
- 3:56Speaker 3: twenty four. What world are we living in Well, we've
- 3:59Speaker 3: got politics making these kinds of ideas. I just I
- 4:02Speaker 3: had to bring it up, Kylie, because well, I don't know,
- 4:04Speaker 3: because it's a Friday and I like to bring up
- 4:06Speaker 3: these random things. So, folks, that's what's happening in Queensland.
- 4:08Speaker 3: Because in Queensland, not long do we not have daylight
- 4:11Speaker 3: saving because we're always a little bit behind. Although I
- 4:13Speaker 3: don't mind that. I do like before thirty wake cups
- 4:16Speaker 3: so much better. But yeah, we've got politicians who want
- 4:19Speaker 3: to bring that corporate punishment. Anyway, Kylie, you are battling
- 4:22Speaker 3: hay Fevers. So I'm not going to insist that you
- 4:24Speaker 3: talk a whole lot today, and we're certainly not going
- 4:26Speaker 3: to go through the fathers of girls talk today, but
- 4:28Speaker 3: it is I'll do better tomorrow. Let's kick this off
- 4:31Speaker 3: with you. This is the bit where we get introspective
- 4:33Speaker 3: of what worked, what didn't, How can we be better
- 4:34Speaker 3: parents tomorrow? What was your insight, what was your learning?
- 4:37Speaker 3: What was your positive or negative experience? I want to
- 4:38Speaker 3: hear all about it.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Well, let's start with the fact that I've been writing
- 4:41Speaker 2: now for.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Three weeks, writing with a d that is getting on
- 4:44Speaker 3: a push bike and chasing me around the Sunshine Coast streets.
- 4:47Speaker 2: And after my first week of hazardous falls and.
- 4:51Speaker 3: Oh that brilliight hi, Oh my goodness.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Yeah, we are through all of that, and I'm feeling stronger,
- 4:57Speaker 2: and I'm really really enjoying being out early in the morning.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Waking up at four thirty in the morning to go
- 5:03Speaker 3: for a bike.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Crazy, isn't it. But the big challenge is that it
- 5:06Speaker 2: has just added to my levels of exhaustion a little bit,
- 5:11Speaker 2: and nighttimes are really really hard.
- 5:13Speaker 3: So it has happened more than once that you have
- 5:15Speaker 3: fallen asleep on the couch somewhere between six thirty and
- 5:18Speaker 3: seven o'clock and the TV sid on. You're just laying
- 5:21Speaker 3: down on the couch to take a breather. Next thing
- 5:23Speaker 3: you know, you're unconscious, you're around, You're just gone.
- 5:28Speaker 2: So the other night one of the kids came to
- 5:31Speaker 2: the room. I had literally just put my feet up
- 5:33Speaker 2: and was just kind of trying to take a breather.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Do you know what time it was?
- 5:37Speaker 2: It was seven thirty SAT night. We just finished dinner,
- 5:41Speaker 2: the kids were cleaning up, and I thought I could
- 5:42Speaker 2: just quietly retreat to the room and nobody would notice
- 5:45Speaker 2: my nonsense. And there was a knock on my door
- 5:49Speaker 2: and one of the girls came in and she said, hey, Mum,
- 5:52Speaker 2: I went for a walk earlier along the beach with
- 5:54Speaker 2: a friend, but she doesn't like walking on the sand,
- 5:56Speaker 2: so we didn't actually walk very far. Do you want
- 5:58Speaker 2: to come for a walk with me now? And I
- 6:00Speaker 2: looked at her like, are you kidding me?
- 6:03Speaker 3: You looked at her through closed eyes, and.
- 6:06Speaker 2: I said, darling, I'd love to go for a walk
- 6:09Speaker 2: with you right now, But I am shouted. I got
- 6:11Speaker 2: up this morning, I went for an early bike ride.
- 6:13Speaker 2: I'm just really exhausted. I said, can we do it
- 6:17Speaker 2: another day? And she completely understood, and she was so
- 6:22Speaker 2: gracious and just said, yeah, that's fine, mum, and she
- 6:24Speaker 2: walked off. But as she walked off, my heart just
- 6:27Speaker 2: ached because I recognized in that moment what she was
- 6:31Speaker 2: actually saying was Mum, I just need you. I just
- 6:35Speaker 2: need some time. And it took everything I had to
- 6:39Speaker 2: muster up some energy to push myself off the bed
- 6:43Speaker 2: and I called down the hallway and I said, let's go,
- 6:46Speaker 2: and there was this hope field really come floating down
- 6:50Speaker 2: the corridor. As she turned and looked at me and
- 6:53Speaker 2: realized that I was actually genuinely serious. So we jumped
- 6:56Speaker 2: in the car and we drove down to our favorite
- 6:58Speaker 2: spot down at the beach five kilometers later.
- 7:03Speaker 3: It's not bad somebody who was asleep three minutes earlier.
- 7:06Speaker 2: She was completely talked out. But what I noticed was
- 7:10Speaker 2: the change in her countenance and she was just glowing.
- 7:14Speaker 2: It wasn't that we did anything special, but in that moment,
- 7:17Speaker 2: what she needed was to know that she had my
- 7:21Speaker 2: full attention. She was able to share her heart with me,
- 7:24Speaker 2: but she was also desperate to no mine, and in
- 7:28Speaker 2: that moment we were able to have that beautiful connection
- 7:31Speaker 2: that comes from no distractions and side by side, beautiful
- 7:36Speaker 2: comfortable connectedness, and it was just beautiful.
- 7:40Speaker 3: With noting as well that you don't have to live
- 7:43Speaker 3: near the beach or in some kind of exotic location
- 7:45Speaker 3: to do this. When we were living in Brisbane in
- 7:47Speaker 3: suburbia a few years ago, we would still do that,
- 7:50Speaker 3: Like the kids would want to go for a walk
- 7:51Speaker 3: and we would just walk the streets. We'd find the
- 7:54Speaker 3: nicest place in the neighborhood that we could walk to
- 7:57Speaker 3: and we'd do that take home message.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Even when it's really hard don't miss those bits for connection.
- 8:04Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And my take our message from that one
- 8:06Speaker 3: would actually be that parents sacrifice constantly. That's what parenting is,
- 8:10Speaker 3: and it's an uneven relationship and it's supposed to be
- 8:13Speaker 3: that way. You're never going to get back from the
- 8:15Speaker 3: children what you put in. It just won't happen. And
- 8:18Speaker 3: that's okay, that's how it's supposed to be. One day,
- 8:22Speaker 3: it actually all does come back, and it comes back
- 8:25Speaker 3: in an absolute delightful rush. And there are also those
- 8:28Speaker 3: peaks and troughs. There are those moments, well the peaks.
- 8:30Speaker 3: There are those moments like when you have the walk
- 8:32Speaker 3: and you think, I didn't have the energy for this,
- 8:34Speaker 3: but jit, it was good, and look at my daughter now,
- 8:42Speaker 3: So what's yours? Okay, I'll do better tomorrow. Is a
- 8:45Speaker 3: really simple one, and it's kind of a line. I've
- 8:48Speaker 3: been working on my book, and my goodness, Kylie, I
- 8:52Speaker 3: feel like the pressure of having to write a book
- 8:54Speaker 3: takes It's so all encompassing. I've got all these things
- 8:58Speaker 3: to do, but every time I go and do one
- 8:59Speaker 3: of those things, not writing my book, and so I'm
- 9:01Speaker 3: putting off all the things that I have to do
- 9:03Speaker 3: because the book is everything, and a book is such
- 9:05Speaker 3: a big project that you can't sort of say, I'll
- 9:08Speaker 3: just get the book done and then I'll go and
- 9:09Speaker 3: do that other stuff. But that's kind of how I'm
- 9:11Speaker 3: doing it. Because it's already sixteen months past it's due
- 9:14Speaker 3: date of the publisher. I'm so far behind time. And
- 9:18Speaker 3: the other day our fourteen year old daughter came to
- 9:21Speaker 3: me in the morning. She's being homeschool so she came
- 9:23Speaker 3: to me about ten o'clock and said, Dad, I'd really
- 9:25Speaker 3: like to go to the beach and have a swim
- 9:26Speaker 3: with you. It's a really warm day, it's a really
- 9:27Speaker 3: nice day. Have you got time to take me down
- 9:30Speaker 3: to the beach for a swim? And I looked at
- 9:32Speaker 3: her and said, I've got to write a book. Like
- 9:35Speaker 3: I don't want to say this to you, but I've
- 9:36Speaker 3: got a book to write. And she said, no, that's cool,
- 9:39Speaker 3: I get it. And I said, I tell you what,
- 9:41Speaker 3: I need to get my priorities in order, and going
- 9:45Speaker 3: for a swim with you is a high priority. But
- 9:47Speaker 3: if I go for the swim and keep on putting
- 9:50Speaker 3: off the work that has to be done on the book,
- 9:51Speaker 3: so let me do a few hours on the book
- 9:53Speaker 3: and the sarbo. Once it's not so hot and we're
- 9:55Speaker 3: out of the heat of the day, we'll head down
- 9:57Speaker 3: to the beach and I'll have a swim. And she
- 10:00Speaker 3: she just like you said with our other daughter when
- 10:03Speaker 3: she wanted to go for the walk. Lily just looked
- 10:04Speaker 3: at me and said okay, and really respected that I
- 10:07Speaker 3: had work to do, and she went and did her thing.
- 10:09Speaker 3: And I got stuck into my work and Kylie, I
- 10:12Speaker 3: completely forgot. I got absolutely absorbed in the book writing.
- 10:15Speaker 3: I did so much work. I was super productive, and
- 10:18Speaker 3: I was so proud of myself because it's so hard
- 10:20Speaker 3: to do it. Until around about I think it was
- 10:23Speaker 3: five o'clock, maybe five point fifteen, and then I suddenly remembered.
- 10:26Speaker 3: I told Lily that I'd take her for a swim,
- 10:29Speaker 3: and so I went into the house and said, you're
- 10:31Speaker 3: up for that swim and she looked at me and
- 10:33Speaker 3: like it's a bit late, dad. I said, no, come on,
- 10:35Speaker 3: we'll go for the swim. I promised you I would,
- 10:37Speaker 3: And there is still some daylight. Let's get down the beach.
- 10:40Speaker 3: So we was down the beach and again, one of
- 10:42Speaker 3: the beautiful things about where we live is that we
- 10:44Speaker 3: can do that. And Kylie was swamp for about forty
- 10:47Speaker 3: five minutes and I just I saw this kid and
- 10:49Speaker 3: a new light again. It was that beautiful moment where
- 10:51Speaker 3: you think, these kids are awesome. I love I love
- 10:55Speaker 3: being with my kids. It's just that as parents, we
- 10:59Speaker 3: feel so much pressure, we feel so much tension, we
- 11:02Speaker 3: feel so much weight, and we're so torn because everything
- 11:06Speaker 3: else is so urgent, and playing with the kids is important,
- 11:10Speaker 3: but it's not making the same level of demand on
- 11:13Speaker 3: us as the bills or the emails or the cooking
- 11:18Speaker 3: or the cleaning and all of the other things that
- 11:20Speaker 3: feel like they just have to be done. And it
- 11:23Speaker 3: felt great. So my older bettoria is a really simple one,
- 11:25Speaker 3: and that is that we've got to make time for
- 11:27Speaker 3: the things that matter most.
- 11:28Speaker 2: When I think about all of the important relationships in
- 11:31Speaker 2: our lives, whether it be our children or our parents,
- 11:33Speaker 2: our siblings, or you and not close friends partners. When
- 11:37Speaker 2: we're not intentional about making time to connect, it's so
- 11:44Speaker 2: easy to see how those little annoyances kind of just
- 11:48Speaker 2: wheedle their way into our thoughts and the way we
- 11:52Speaker 2: perceive those people in our lives. And I've had it
- 11:56Speaker 2: happen so many times where I'm just like, Oh, that
- 11:58Speaker 2: person's so annoying, blah blah, And then I spend some
- 12:01Speaker 2: quality time with them, and all of a sudden, I
- 12:04Speaker 2: remember all of the things that I love.
- 12:06Speaker 3: They're actually delightful people.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Really delightful people. But because I'm removed from the situation
- 12:12Speaker 2: so much of the time, all I see is the annoyances.
- 12:16Speaker 2: And it's the same with our kids. If we're so
- 12:18Speaker 2: busy just doing the mundane everyday things and just working
- 12:22Speaker 2: through the big list without actually being intentional about connecting,
- 12:27Speaker 2: then it's so easy for us to just see them
- 12:29Speaker 2: as annoyances because there's so many reasons to get frustrated.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Yeah, So to take our message for me probably the
- 12:36Speaker 3: same as you kids, spell love t im. Just like
- 12:39Speaker 3: dollars of the currency of our economy, attention and connection
- 12:43Speaker 3: to the currency of our relationships. The Happy Family's podcast
- 12:47Speaker 3: is produced by Justin Roland from Bridge Media. We really
- 12:50Speaker 3: hope you have a fabulous, wonderful weekend and that you
- 12:53Speaker 3: get plenty of that time so that the family feels
- 12:57Speaker 3: full of love and joy and all the good things.
- 12:59Speaker 3: So gratefully to listen to the podcast, hopefully it's doing
- 13:02Speaker 3: for you what it needs to make your family happier.
- 13:04Speaker 3: Have a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful weekend, and we'll see you
- 13:08Speaker 3: on Monday as we tackle the big issue of how
- 13:12Speaker 3: many times? How many times do I have to tell you?
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