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- 0:38Speaker 1: but gigantic in its implications and wisdom.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, And so y'all aren't ready because today
- 0:46Speaker 2: we're going to talk about snackplates.
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- 1:11Speaker 1: Tell a friend. I'll talk more about those things at
- 1:13Speaker 1: the end of this discussion. But as you said, we're
- 1:16Speaker 1: talking about snackplates, and who does not love a good snackplate.
- 1:20Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, So like I love to have
- 1:22Speaker 2: something to snack on or it's a graze on, especially
- 1:25Speaker 2: it get togethers Like I like sitting around a table
- 1:27Speaker 2: and just eating all the cheese or whatever it is
- 1:29Speaker 2: that's in the plate in front of me. And it
- 1:31Speaker 2: gives us something to do rather than just small talk.
- 1:33Speaker 2: So like I can snack and not have to worry
- 1:35Speaker 2: about like whether or not I'm saying the right thing
- 1:38Speaker 2: to somebody that I don't want to have a conversation.
- 1:39Speaker 1: With whether or not you're saying the right thing about
- 1:41Speaker 1: the weather.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I don't want to talk about the weather.
- 1:44Speaker 2: I want to talk about the snackplate. I want to put
- 1:45Speaker 2: my I want to put crackers in my mouth, you know.
- 1:48Speaker 1: And a charcoterie board is not just a snackplate. It's
- 1:51Speaker 1: like an elevated snack plate, right Anyway, that has us
- 1:56Speaker 1: ask the question, this cultural thing that we do of
- 1:59Speaker 1: harkoos boards, why do we do this? Well, thankfully we
- 2:02Speaker 1: have an answer for you here.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Yes, so I wrote this many because my daughter is
- 2:08Speaker 2: obsessed with charcuteri boards. Right now. I was like, where
- 2:10Speaker 2: does this come from? And like what does this look like?
- 2:13Speaker 2: And why are we doing this? And so that's just
- 2:15Speaker 2: so you know that there's like there's an impetus for
- 2:17Speaker 2: aware this started, okay, and it's my twenty year old
- 2:21Speaker 2: daughter has decided that she is like really into charcuterie
- 2:24Speaker 2: right now.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Awesome, love that for everyone involved.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's real great. No, it's cool because she's
- 2:31Speaker 2: trying new things.
- 2:32Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, I don't like that. I don't
- 2:34Speaker 3: like that. I don't like that.
- 2:35Speaker 2: She said the other day that sardines were not food
- 2:38Speaker 2: for humans, and I went, sure, okay, like I wouldn't
- 2:41Speaker 2: put a sardine on a charcuterie board as a vegetarian
- 2:43Speaker 2: or as a human.
- 2:44Speaker 1: But here we are, you know, sure, sure, all right,
- 2:48Speaker 1: Well we do need to start by defining our terms.
- 2:50Speaker 1: So charcuterie boards are a appetizer served on either a
- 2:54Speaker 1: wooden board or a stone slab some kind of delivery
- 2:58Speaker 1: tray if you will, yes, And the foods that are
- 3:01Speaker 1: included in our charcuterie board are usually preserved foods, such
- 3:04Speaker 1: things like cured meats, cheeses, crackers, breads, and along with
- 3:09Speaker 1: a variety of other spreads and snackables.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, things that are easy to eat in
- 3:16Speaker 2: a quick bite. Now, charcoterie comes from the old French chair,
- 3:20Speaker 2: which is flesh, and cute, which is cooked. I'm not
- 3:23Speaker 2: pronouncing those in French because I have a hard time
- 3:25Speaker 2: pronouncing French, but I believe they are shall.
- 3:28Speaker 1: And q probably qui actually qui.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes more sense for my friends who speak French.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I'm sorry that I hurt your ears. Now, these words
- 3:36Speaker 2: were combined and then turn into a reference to a
- 3:38Speaker 2: small shop, which is where the ree comes in charcout
- 3:43Speaker 2: de ree.
- 3:43Speaker 3: So basically it just means cooked flesh.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Shop, flesh cooked shop.
- 3:49Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, But.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Cooked flesh shop does sound very appetizing. Sure, So that's
- 3:58Speaker 1: that's sort of the history here of and understanding what
- 4:01Speaker 1: they are. And just like any good trend that has
- 4:03Speaker 1: believed that laborers were first to invent charcuterie boards as
- 4:08Speaker 1: simple meals during medieval periods. However, of course the rich
- 4:12Speaker 1: saw it and said we want that, and so it
- 4:14Speaker 1: evolved into a high society affair, probably with became very
- 4:18Speaker 1: gaudy and less practical and full of things that were
- 4:21Speaker 1: not even food anymore.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Yes, these boards have taken on life of their own,
- 4:25Speaker 2: with an estimated sales or like an industry in twenty
- 4:29Speaker 2: twenty landing around nine hundred and fifty million dollars per year.
- 4:34Speaker 2: That's a lot of shetta, you know what I'm saying.
- 4:37Speaker 1: That is a lot.
- 4:38Speaker 2: It's industry in itself, Like I mean, when we talk
- 4:40Speaker 2: about it, it's it's You've got like specific delis that
- 4:44Speaker 2: produce foods just for charcuterie boards. You've got classes, you've
- 4:49Speaker 2: got specialized charcuterie boards, utensils, all these things that go
- 4:52Speaker 2: along with it, and like specific books and designs and
- 4:55Speaker 2: all that.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Like it is really truly.
- 4:57Speaker 2: It's become like an industry specific, like a very influencer
- 5:01Speaker 2: industry because they're very pretty to take pictures.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Of and like to post them on your social media's.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can design one well and like have
- 5:08Speaker 1: things look nice on them, they're really cool to look at,
- 5:10Speaker 1: Like they kind of are artistic and like have a
- 5:14Speaker 1: sort of picturesque sort of scene to them.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:18Speaker 1: I think I mentioned we got a whole book that
- 5:20Speaker 1: was like vegan boards that are ways to make these
- 5:23Speaker 1: big sort of charcuterie board like things that are vegan.
- 5:27Speaker 1: So there's you know, olive based ones where you have
- 5:29Speaker 1: a bunch of different olives, and ones where you sort
- 5:32Speaker 1: of you know, mix and match your own snacks with things. Yeah,
- 5:36Speaker 1: and they'll even put like little decorations on there, so
- 5:38Speaker 1: you might have like a little sprig of rosemary that
- 5:40Speaker 1: just goes on the board to look nice. Yeah, it's
- 5:42Speaker 1: also a food, but it's really there to just help
- 5:44Speaker 1: tie the whole ambiance together. But ideally, what you'll never
- 5:48Speaker 1: have on a charcuterie board as an ad ew not
- 5:51Speaker 1: tasty at all. Okay, we're back. Don't eat ads. They
- 6:02Speaker 1: taste bad, bad ads. So we talked a bit about
- 6:05Speaker 1: the history of boards here and understanding the culture around
- 6:08Speaker 1: them a bit. Not really, but we talked about the
- 6:10Speaker 1: fact that they happen.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about how to make a board.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're probably asking Shannon Abraham, how do I
- 6:18Speaker 2: make a board to dazzle my friends? Well, we're gonna
- 6:20Speaker 2: give you a quick cow too. One of my favorite
- 6:22Speaker 2: types of episodes to do is a how to episode.
- 6:24Speaker 2: So we're gonna give you a step by step process
- 6:27Speaker 2: on how to make a fantastic charcouterie board. First step
- 6:31Speaker 2: number one, get a slab of wood.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Say I want my board.
- 6:35Speaker 3: I want my board. That's beautiful.
- 6:38Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting an Irman two reference today, so thank
- 6:40Speaker 2: you for that. Yeah, so get a slab of wood,
- 6:43Speaker 2: maybe a stone slate. Ideally it is like treated so
- 6:47Speaker 2: it's nice and prepared to serve food. But you want
- 6:49Speaker 2: to have something that you can serve food on.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's putting slivers and dirt and grime into
- 6:56Speaker 1: your food, it's not suitable for serving.
- 6:58Speaker 3: Right with right exactly.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Anyway, for whatever ingredients you do choose to add to
- 7:04Speaker 1: your board, you should aim for about two ounces per
- 7:06Speaker 1: person per item to help you proportion things the way
- 7:09Speaker 1: that you need to to stack your board. But that's
- 7:12Speaker 1: about the way you're looking for is two ounces per
- 7:14Speaker 1: person per item.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I think people get really worried about overdoing it or
- 7:18Speaker 2: underdoing it, and that if you know you're gonna have
- 7:20Speaker 2: a certain amount of guests, that's a good standard to
- 7:22Speaker 2: look for.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Now.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Sep Number three is you're going to select your meat
- 7:25Speaker 2: or your protein or whatever you're going to use for
- 7:27Speaker 2: your plant based folks, and this could be deli meats,
- 7:29Speaker 2: or substitute to match the quote unquote cured meat selection.
- 7:33Speaker 2: There are vegan delies out there that do produce things
- 7:36Speaker 2: like pershudo and bacon and like in salamian stuff that
- 7:40Speaker 2: you might put on a board and do that in
- 7:42Speaker 2: a vegan style. So there is that as well, and
- 7:45Speaker 2: also you don't have to have that on there if
- 7:46Speaker 2: you don't want to.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Sure. Next you've got your cheeses, you should vary the
- 7:50Speaker 1: shape and intensity of the cheese selection. Hard cheeses something old,
- 7:55Speaker 1: our age longer and have different flavor profiles. Soft cheeses,
- 7:59Speaker 1: something new, tend to be creamier or milder. Then you
- 8:03Speaker 1: can maybe get some cheese from a friend that'd be
- 8:05Speaker 1: something borrowed and maybe a blue cheese and blue yeah,
- 8:09Speaker 1: and anyway you could throw some goat cheese, blue cheese
- 8:12Speaker 1: or plant based cheese to meet this level. To accomplish
- 8:16Speaker 1: whatever cheese selection you need to have.
- 8:18Speaker 3: Yeah, Step five is going to be your spreads.
- 8:21Speaker 2: You can have small bowls or ramikins that can include
- 8:23Speaker 2: things like hummus, green tahini, dip, honey or a gave
- 8:26Speaker 2: nectar or whatever. Maybe like fruit jams or spreads or
- 8:30Speaker 2: like we have a roasted onion jam or a roasted
- 8:34Speaker 2: onion jelly or roasted garlic roasted onion garlic jelly.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Wow.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's interesting, but it's like one of
- 8:41Speaker 2: those ones you can just kind of like have as
- 8:42Speaker 2: an available option for folks.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Then, of course you need a delivery system, and that
- 8:47Speaker 1: is to say that the spreads are only so good
- 8:49Speaker 1: as how they make it to your face. Yeah, and
- 8:51Speaker 1: this is where crackers come in. So the vessel, this
- 8:55Speaker 1: is how I always feel about hummus, is like whatever
- 8:57Speaker 1: I'm eating it with is just a vessel for the hummus.
- 8:59Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that much, although obviously I want that
- 9:01Speaker 1: part to not taste bad. I just need the hummus
- 9:04Speaker 1: to get to the face.
- 9:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:05Speaker 1: So anyway, you get some different flavors textures. Breadsticks are good,
- 9:09Speaker 1: Sliced bread can be good, Those crackers can be good.
- 9:12Speaker 1: You want to be mindful about the texture and the
- 9:14Speaker 1: flavor of the cracker delivery system, but that is what
- 9:17Speaker 1: you need to have on There is a delivery system
- 9:19Speaker 1: for the spreads, dips and the like proteins, cheeses and
- 9:23Speaker 1: whatever else you got on there.
- 9:25Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Step seven is where you can add a little bit
- 9:28Speaker 2: more zest to your board too. You can add some
- 9:29Speaker 2: roasted nuts, fresher dried fruits, pickled items, something that's a
- 9:33Speaker 2: little bit sweet or with a little bit of zing
- 9:35Speaker 2: maybe something like with a little bit of vinegar or
- 9:37Speaker 2: pickle to it. Something that you can kind of add
- 9:39Speaker 2: different things that kind of like fill out the board
- 9:41Speaker 2: a little bit.
- 9:41Speaker 1: It's the whole fat, salt, acid, heat thing, I think.
- 9:44Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 9:45Speaker 1: So as you're setting up the board, the recommended order
- 9:48Speaker 1: is to do this. So set up the board, then
- 9:51Speaker 1: add the cheese first, then add the meats and spreads.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Then fill in the gaps with nuts, fruits, savory bites,
- 9:56Speaker 1: et cetera. Then add the breads, crackers, et cetera the board,
- 10:00Speaker 1: so you can kind of like have bread near by
- 10:02Speaker 1: any of the things you might combine with the bread,
- 10:05Speaker 1: and then that that will have you have the arrangement
- 10:07Speaker 1: have sort of a logical flow to it.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, So why do we do this?
- 10:12Speaker 2: Well, it's pretty simple actually, Like people like food, so
- 10:16Speaker 2: we like to eat food.
- 10:17Speaker 1: We need to eat food.
- 10:18Speaker 2: We need to eat food. It's it's kind of weld
- 10:20Speaker 2: but it's a space to be creative. It's a place
- 10:22Speaker 2: to connect over food, to do something a little bit
- 10:24Speaker 2: different and creative. It's a fun way to host, to
- 10:25Speaker 2: get together and create a centerpiece where everyone can just
- 10:28Speaker 2: chat and be together and admire.
- 10:31Speaker 3: A little bit of creativity with it too.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Like you're not really making anything new, you're just kind
- 10:35Speaker 2: of arranging it and designing it in a way to
- 10:37Speaker 2: be kind of a talking point or a centerpiece for
- 10:40Speaker 2: those social conversations. It's really designed to facilitate those types
- 10:43Speaker 2: of engagements and can be really really nice if you
- 10:46Speaker 2: like to do that sort of thing.
- 10:48Speaker 1: I also think there's an element here that's important, which
- 10:50Speaker 1: is the choice. And a lot of times when you
- 10:52Speaker 1: have something prepared, like people get essentially what you prepared,
- 10:55Speaker 1: and in the charcuterie board, like arrangement. In one of
- 10:58Speaker 1: these boards here you get to choose which things you
- 11:01Speaker 1: include and don't include, which things you focus on. You
- 11:04Speaker 1: might be like I don't really care so much for
- 11:06Speaker 1: spicy things, someone to just stay away from that. But
- 11:08Speaker 1: someone else who really likes spicy can choose to like
- 11:10Speaker 1: I want to include a lot of spicy things in
- 11:12Speaker 1: my little cracker sandwich thing that I'm making for myself.
- 11:16Speaker 1: So you get the opportunity to emphasize the parts that
- 11:19Speaker 1: you want to emphasize and arrange the snacks in a
- 11:22Speaker 1: way that you'd prefer. And I do think that just
- 11:24Speaker 1: that element of choice is something that draws a lot
- 11:27Speaker 1: of people to the charcuterie board type setup as well.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Is you can have a lot of food for a
- 11:33Speaker 1: lot of people and have it be that they get
- 11:35Speaker 1: to choose the kind of food that they want to
- 11:37Speaker 1: partake and not necessarily be forced to partake or not
- 11:41Speaker 1: because things are combined in such a way that they
- 11:43Speaker 1: don't enjoy or prefer those food combinations. Absolutely, all right, Well,
- 11:47Speaker 1: that's how to make a charcuteri board. That's why to
- 11:49Speaker 1: do a charcuteri board. And that's where the word charcuterie
- 11:51Speaker 1: comes from. I think that's what we have to say
- 11:53Speaker 1: about it. And now that you've heard that words so
- 11:55Speaker 1: many times, it has become meaningless. You may go out
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