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Clydesdale Media Roundtable | Remembering Lazar DJukic · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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Hey guys, what is going on?
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It is Clydesdale Media Roundtable time,
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back at our normal time,
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and we have been off the
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air all weekend by choice.
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We want to explain what all that is,
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and we wanted to take some
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time to remember our friend Lazar Jukic.
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I am
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i am by no means were we
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best friends or anything
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like that but we were very
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good acquaintances and um I
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knew him he knew me we
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spoke when we saw each
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other and so I want to open
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it up to the crew who also
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knew lazar and um or lazar
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I'm sorry cat I'll get it
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right uh lazar and uh open
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up to you guys on memories
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that you had of him so
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whoever wants to take the floor first.
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Well,
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I know you guys met him first virtually,
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so maybe you should start
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with that first time you
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guys talked with him and Luca.
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Yeah,
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so we interviewed the brothers the
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first time.
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This was right after they had qualified
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or the games, I guess, back in 2021.
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Right.
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Um, and I remember it's funny.
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I,
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I remember my very first sort of bit of
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information that I heard
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about Lazar that I found
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out about was that he
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qualified in 2019 and that
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he didn't accept his invite.
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And my cynical brain went
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right to he's doping.
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He's gotta be doping.
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Like why else would you not
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go to the games?
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Right.
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You must be on drugs.
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You gotta cycle off and everything else.
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Um,
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And we, I guess,
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I don't know if we asked
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him or someone had
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explained to us that he wasn't ready.
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And it's funny because I
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went back and listened to
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the interview that he did
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with Dave just a few weeks ago.
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And he explained sort of why he did that.
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And he didn't want to be
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that guy that showed up, you know,
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and just like finish last or just,
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you know,
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or got cut potentially because
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he wasn't ready for the big stage.
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And that was the year, as you all recall,
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that national champions got
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invites and a lot of people,
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Oh, yeah.
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Showed up, you know,
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for the apparel and then, you know,
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exit stage left after event one, you know,
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because of the event.
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So that was kind of the first aha moment.
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Like it was a lesson to me.
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Like you hear about people
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and you hear stories and
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you just kind of jump to conclusions.
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Right.
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And then, you know,
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after getting to know him.
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I thought like,
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there's no way this guy cheated, right?
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There's no way that he,
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this is what he was.
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And I even,
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it's funny because I saw
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pictures of him that I took
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from the 2021 games and
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then seeing him now, like he's grown,
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you know, physically since then.
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Like if he was on something,
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they weren't very good.
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If he was, you know, in 2019,
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cause he wasn't that,
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he wasn't that developed as he is now,
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which I'm sure just comes from, you know,
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all the hard work that he put in.
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But, you know,
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my initial memories of him are just,
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like I said before,
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He was always very open to talk,
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always wanted to talk.
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And I remember even during
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the games when we saw him,
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like no one was really talking to him.
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Nobody really knew who he was.
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And I was like letting him
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in the wrong door in the
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arena because he wanted to
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get in and watch, you know,
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Luca do stuff.
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It was just,
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he was just like a regular guy.
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He never put himself on a
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pedestal or acted like he
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was too good to talk to us.
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And who are we?
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Like, we just, you know,
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we're not like big names in the space.
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He did not, you know, have to,
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for the benefit of his career or anything,
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treat us a certain way, you know,
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because of that.
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He just,
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he did because that's the kind of
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person he was.
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What's interesting about
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that was we had just
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started working with the
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Morning Chalk Up.
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We were taking over the bottom line.
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That was our first interview.
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It was?
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I didn't know that.
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I didn't remember that until
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you said that.
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And I can tell because the
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thumbnail graphic is so bad.
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but we took over and we
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thought we had this super
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cool story of these two
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brothers making the games
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in the same year.
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And we were so excited to
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talk to them and how
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excited they were to talk
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to us was this really cool
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kind of vibe that we got from them.
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And they were laughing and
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giggling the entire interview.
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It was sweet.
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Um, and,
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and he did explain in that
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interview to us that he
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turned down the 2019 games
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because he wanted to be better prepared.
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And, uh, I thought that was,
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that was really cool of him.
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And it's, it's just a really cool memory.
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Um, but the other thing,
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and I mentioned this in my
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post during that time,
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Kat had asked him how to
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pronounce his name.
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And she still has that
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message from him where he
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did a voice memo telling us
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how to pronounce his name.
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You played it at dinner on
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Sunday night and it took
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everything in my being not
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to like completely lose it.
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Yeah.
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And I, it's, I had,
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I had gone back to my DMS
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on Friday to pull up.
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And I think I had posted
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like a little excerpt of him.
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I had said something like, love you,
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buddy.
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And it was after,
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the 2021 games and where he, you know,
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he didn't place as well as
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he thought he would.
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And he's like, thanks Kat.
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You know,
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and we were going to talk to him
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about a recap and things like that.
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And that's as far back as I went for,
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for whatever reason,
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I didn't go back very far.
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And then I was sitting with
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my friend Paul at the games
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on Saturday and he said, you know,
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you knew Lazar, like what, what kind of,
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what was your relationship like with him?
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And I said, well, you know,
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and I just kind of was showing him like,
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Oh, you know,
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we talked on Instagram and I
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was scrolling and then I
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started scrolling more.
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And I guess I didn't have
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service where I was the first time.
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And I was scrolling like 10
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times like down the page and,
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to the very first
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interaction where I saw
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that screen recording or
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the voice recording.
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And I knew as soon as I saw it,
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like the hair on the back
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of my neck stood up.
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Cause I was like, I have his voice.
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Like,
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and I didn't quite remember what the
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interaction was,
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but I listened to it for
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the first time sitting in this,
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in the stands.
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And I had the same reaction, Scott.
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It was just like,
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it brought back all these emotions like,
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Oh, cause then you hear him talking.
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And I remember how
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appreciative he was of that
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because still no one really, you know,
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not a whole lot of people
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say his name correctly.
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Um,
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And he didn't care, but you know,
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he didn't care.
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I'm I, I put that,
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I projected that onto all the athletes.
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I,
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cause I care when people mess up my name.
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And I think if you're going
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to say somebody's name,
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respect them enough to
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pronounce it correctly the
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way they would.
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And that was really cool.
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And I'm pretty sure I
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probably sent that to like
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Sean Woodland or something.
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Cause I remember I'd be
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listening to the broadcast
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and they would mess up the name.
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And I was probably the
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asshole sending them a note being like,
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Hey, this is how you say it.
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And I would record my own
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voice saying it the way they should.
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And I know the games does
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that at the beginning.
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They probably have everyone
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record their voice so the
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announcers know how to
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pronounce it correctly.
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But it gets lost in translation sometimes,
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I guess.
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But yeah, that was that was a cool thing.
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And I will cherish that.
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Right.
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It was really cool.
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And then I remember I think
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it was just that I think it
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was the three of us.
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Then we interviewed him.
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And we talked about later on, like, um,
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like a full interview and
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talked about Dubai, I think, and,
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and some of his, the other competitions.
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And then that's really when the first time,
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like I had the opportunity to,
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to engage with him virtually that way.
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And then the funny story
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from when we were at the
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games that I'll share.
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Was that, was that 2021?
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22.
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It was 2022.
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And, and to this day, one of my best,
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you know,
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prior to this tragedy happening
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was one of my best memories of the games.
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Yeah.
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So it was, so Kat and I were in the media
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Like we were in the seats,
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not down on the field or in the Coliseum,
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but it was the workout
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where they had to do single unders.
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And then if they, you know,
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made it through that, then it was the,
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you know, crossovers and all that.
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And the pegboard.
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Yeah.
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So like all of the athletes
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were literally like coming
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up and lining up in front
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of us and right in front of us.
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And he had turned around and
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he looked at us and, you know,
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started talking to us, you know, like, oh,
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hey, guys, how's it going?
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And I remember to do pull ups on the the
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The railing?
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The railing, yeah.
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He started doing pull-ups and he's like,
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I'm just trying to get that
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tennis elbow from happening.
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Got to get that worked out
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before I go into the pegboards.
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And then I remember afterwards,
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he came up to us and he was like,
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did I make it through?
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did I make it?
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And Kat and I were like,
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like right after he got off the floor,
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like he legit was hoping we
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were going to tell him whether, like,
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I thought we turned into
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his coaches for a second.
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I was like, wait, who are we?
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And I was like, I was like, I mean,
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we're coaches,
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but we're not games coaches.
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But it was just like, yeah, he was,
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we were trying to be so
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respectful of all the athletes.
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Like,
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even though we had interviewed so
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many that were in line there,
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we were like, listen, they're,
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they're in competition in the zone.
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Yeah.
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You're not engaging them.
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And he's just the one.
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Yeah.
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Got to do these pull-ups.
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Got to, got to work out that, that, uh,
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tennis elbow.
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And that,
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that just his smile and being excited,
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like to take the floor.
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Yeah.
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It was really cool.
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My, my final memory.
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And that was him all the time.
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Like whenever you ran into him,
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that was the,
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the vibe he gave off every time.
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And yeah,
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My final memory is in 2021,
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when he does finally go to the games,
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the event where they ran
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around Madison and then
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came in and did toes to bar
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and then sprinted to the end.
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He was winning that event.
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And in our recap show during
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the toes to bar, he fell off the bar.
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And then got up, finished,
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and then ended up coming in second.
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And he laughed at himself so
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much for falling off the bar.
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Like instead of like being
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upset about it or for
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Lauren that he didn't get
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an event win or he just was laughing.
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Like, can you believe it?
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Like of all times to lose my
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grip on a toes to bar.
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There it was.
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And, uh,
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And do you remember the
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event when he when he wore
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the Reeboks that Pat
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Villner got for him and he won the event?
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With Toes to Mark.
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Yeah, with Toes to Mark.
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That was in 2021.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Very, very cool stories.
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And and I was looking back
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at our conversations.
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There was a time, as you recall, where.
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he didn't have a coach that
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was traveling with him.
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And do you remember we joked
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about like getting his
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coaches pass at one point in time?
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Cause I was like, Hey, if you,
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if you need somebody back there,
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cause you know,
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he wasn't going to have anybody there.
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His brother didn't qualify.
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I don't think anyone was
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going to support him.
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And there was,
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there was an exchange
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between us about something about like,
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who's, who's getting your pass.
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He's like, Oh, I got, you know,
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I got someone to take my pass.
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I'm like, Oh, okay.
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Darn.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I know we don't want any,
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there's not going to be any
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hate in this episode at all.
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This is about love.
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Lazar was always jovial,
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was always smiling, was always laughing.
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And that's what I want this
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show to be so that we can
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start to heal and we can
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start to move on.
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So the next thing I want to
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talk about is just the vibe at the arena.
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Because I think there's some
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misconceptions of what it
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was like to be there.
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And it was,
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and I'll let Kat tell her side as well,
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but when I was there and it all went down,
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I was there alone.
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Kat hadn't got there yet.
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It all happened.
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And when it all happened, I felt stuck.
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I felt like I couldn't go anywhere.
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And I want to thank Grant, Kipping It Real,
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and Amanda Hari for just
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teaming up to get through this weekend.
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Because I watched the first
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event from my hotel room
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because I got in late and
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couldn't get media passes.
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Yeah.
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When I found out what happened,
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I rushed to the venue to
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get the media passes just
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to find out next steps.
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And it took everything I
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could do to get there.
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I can't imagine the stress
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that you had just getting there.
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Because I know I was on an
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airplane when it was all happening.
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And I paid for the Wi-Fi so
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that I could stay connected.
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And it wasn't working properly.
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And I was getting texts from
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some people and not from
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others and trying to get updates.
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And you feel so helpless.
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I wish...
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I wished I was there.
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And so I get into the venue.
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I go to the media room.
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And again,
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thank you so much for Grant and
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Amanda for that.
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We finally hear they're
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going to cancel everything.
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But there was no
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communication for a while.
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Like there was nothing going on.
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And it just made it more
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intense and somber and
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everything in that moment.
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And then when everything was canceled,
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we had to be out of the
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arena like fairly quickly.
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So we went to a coffee shop
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and just kind of hung out
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to kind of talk through it.
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And at that point,
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we didn't know what was happening.
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And we didn't know if it was
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going to go on or not.
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What were we going to do?
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We're all stuck there.
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We can't get other flights
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out until Monday.
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And all this while being
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extremely sad and trying to
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process it all.
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Kat, you finally get there Thursday night.
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You're too late to get any
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kind of media pass.
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Yeah.
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So you can't even get to
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anything until the next day.
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The next day comes, everything starts,
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and it's just not the same.
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I understand why they move forward.
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I understand why some people left.
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I take nothing away from
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anybody that made a choice
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because it was just tough.
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Thursday,
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if I could have jumped on a plane
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and got home to my family,
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I would have done that.
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Yeah.
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And I don't even know if
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that would have been the right choice.
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I don't even know if I would
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have regretted it or whatever.
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But anyway, we get through it.
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And I felt like at that point,
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all I could do was love on
15:35
the athletes because I knew
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they were hurting.
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And the only way I could
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show love is to be there
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and support them.
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But I chose to go silent.
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This was not a point to
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throw up a bunch of social media stuff.
15:50
This was not a point to do shows.
15:52
You couldn't analyze what
15:54
was on the floor because
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you didn't know how bad any
15:56
of the athletes were hurting.
15:58
And so when you see someone do...
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Burpee's not as fast as they normally do.
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You can't even be critical of that, right?
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And so that's why we went
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radio silent for the weekend.
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And I just loved on
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everybody that I had the
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opportunity to love on.
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Because the spectators were hurting,
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the volunteers were hurting,
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the athletes were hurting.
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and I know there were some
16:26
comments about like,
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everything's back to normal.
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The music's loud.
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It was not normal.
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It was the farthest thing from normal.
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Yeah.
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It was, it was, and I never, you know,
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these events,
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you look forward to seeing your friends,
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you know,
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the people that you don't see very often.
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And for me,
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it had been two years since I'd
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been to the game.
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So I was really,
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I didn't go to any semifinals.
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I was really excited, you know, to,
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to see people again and,
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when I did it was you know
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just a somber hug it was
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just a hug no words and
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this we kind of just moved
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forward it didn't even feel
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right to say like hey how
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you doing or oh it's been
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it's great to see you like
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you don't know what to say
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um and and for us at least
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my role there at the games
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just kind of evaporated
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which which was fine like I
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didn't care that I didn't
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get to do what I wanted to
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do when I got there but it
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was just I just kind of
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became a spectator at that
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point in time and I felt
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I felt bad for not taking
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advantage of the
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credentials I had to do a
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job that maybe I was supposed to do,
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but I didn't feel
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comfortable doing that job.
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So I didn't know what to do.
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You know,
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I wasn't about to throw a mic in
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an athlete's face and ask
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them how they felt because
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I w I wouldn't know what to say.
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And that's not to take away
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anybody that did that.
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I understand that, you know,
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people did behind the
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scenes and all that.
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I don't, I didn't have that kind of access,
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um, nor was that, um, you know,
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my role that weekend.
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Um,
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but I didn't even,
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I didn't even really take many photos.
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I think,
17:58
I think I took like two photos on
18:00
my iPhone and maybe like a
18:01
hundred on my camera where
18:03
normally it would be thousands, um,
18:06
to sift through.
18:07
Cause I just felt like I
18:09
didn't have a purpose and I'm,
18:10
and I'm not like, Oh,
18:11
what was me because of it?
18:12
Like it just, that's, that's what it was.
18:14
I didn't know what else to do.
18:16
Um, it just became very, very odd.
18:21
Um,
18:21
even the way we interacted with people
18:23
and,
18:24
I know we didn't get to like the last day,
18:25
but at the last night when
18:27
I was getting ready to leave,
18:28
this young woman came up
18:29
out of the stands and Mike
18:31
and I were getting ready to leave.
18:33
And she came up to me and she said, hi,
18:34
I'm by myself.
18:37
Can I have a hug?
18:39
And I just like started
18:41
crying and I gave her a hug and I said,
18:43
you know, where are you from?
18:44
And of course you can have a hug.
18:46
And she's like, you look like nice people.
18:47
I just need like somebody to talk to.
18:49
She was from Oklahoma.
18:50
And, you know, she didn't know.
18:53
who I was,
18:53
I was just a person in the
18:57
audience to her, but it was so sweet.
18:59
And I thought like, can you,
19:00
I can't imagine spending
19:01
the whole weekend there by myself.
19:04
You know,
19:05
the fact that my boyfriend came
19:06
with me and Scott was there and, you know,
19:08
I know so many people in the,
19:09
in the environment to be
19:11
able to lean on and talk to.
19:12
And I had friends from
19:13
another gym in Maryland
19:14
here that had a whole row of seats and,
19:17
you know, we talked, but, oh, I just,
19:20
yeah, it was crappy.
19:23
last thing I'm going to say
19:24
is um I'm so glad that
19:26
kara's team won because the
19:31
the speeches that they made
19:33
were what we needed to hear
19:34
in the arena I don't know
19:36
how it went over um on the
19:39
stream and all of that but
19:41
in the arena we needed to
19:43
hear kara say it's okay to
19:46
have multiple emotions yeah
19:50
We're human and you can be
19:52
sad and you can be happy
19:54
and you can love on people.
19:57
And want change.
19:58
And like Megan says up here,
20:02
can't we be angry that it
20:03
happened while also
20:04
supporting the athletes?
20:05
Grieve with those who are
20:06
hurting and ask for accountability. 100%.
20:12
So the part I want to leave
20:15
it with today is kind of like,
20:17
where do we go from here, right?
20:19
And as a sports fan who's
20:21
been around several sports,
20:24
I just want to give some context, right?
20:28
There have been deaths in a lot of sports,
20:32
both on the fan side and
20:34
the athlete side.
20:35
At the Tour de France last year,
20:37
there were cyclists that
20:38
died during the race.
20:41
Dale Earnhardt at NASCAR
20:44
dies during a race.
20:46
The legend of the sport dies
20:48
during a race.
20:50
There have been people in
20:51
other sports that have
20:52
passed away during the event.
20:55
And they've all moved on,
20:56
but not without massive change.
21:01
Right.
21:02
It is obvious from social
21:04
media that the athletes
21:07
want a voice now and it is, and they have,
21:11
they are now empowered to
21:13
have that voice.
21:14
Well, and just to add one piece on that.
21:16
And I think the other big
21:17
piece is that not about
21:19
necessarily moving forward,
21:20
but people don't want it to be forgotten.
21:23
They don't want,
21:24
lazar to be forgotten and I
21:27
think that that's an
21:27
important piece to that
21:29
like yes keep talking about
21:31
him keep keep bringing it
21:33
up don't let it be
21:34
forgotten right yeah the
21:37
key point is nothing ever
21:39
gets solved with hate right
21:43
we need to be constructive
21:45
and we need to move forward
21:47
here in columbus a little
21:48
girl died at a hockey game
21:51
And immediately,
21:52
immediately netting went up
21:54
behind the goals on both
21:56
sides of the arena so that
21:59
pucks could not get to the stands, right?
22:06
Someone died at a baseball game.
22:09
Now there's netting the
22:10
entire way down both the
22:12
first and third baselines
22:16
at baseball games.
22:18
There has to be massive change.
22:21
There has to be.
22:22
And now I think the PFAA is
22:27
probably going to be as
22:29
strong as it's ever been,
22:32
probably tenfold.
22:37
Yeah.
22:38
So I am cool with moving forward,
22:41
but there has to be change.
22:43
And I believe there's no
22:45
option other than that.
22:49
Yep.
22:51
Yeah, I agree.
22:52
And, and, you know, and,
22:53
and maybe we can have a
22:55
show where we talk about that, like what,
22:57
what people's proposed changes are,
22:59
because they're not, there's no bad ideas,
23:01
right?
23:02
And I'm not saying we need
23:03
to be critical of what's going on, or,
23:05
you know,
23:05
call for resignations of people and,
23:08
and litigation and all that,
23:09
but just like have a little
23:11
roundtable of like, what,
23:12
What would you do?
23:13
How would you change?
23:15
Cause I think that's
23:16
important for us to talk through and,
23:17
you know,
23:18
probably somebody's got some
23:19
good ideas and I'm sure
23:22
maybe not wholesale,
23:23
but a lot of them may or
23:24
may not get implemented as we go forward,
23:26
assuming that we do go
23:27
forward with the sport.
23:29
But I'd be curious, you know, that to me,
23:31
that's just my curious
23:32
brain of like trying to fix things.
23:33
Like what, what would we do to change?
23:35
And, you know,
23:36
I've spoken to some people
23:37
like off the record that
23:38
have been in medical before and, you know,
23:41
been in the event,
23:42
space in CrossFit that have, you know,
23:45
really strong opinions
23:46
about what happened or
23:48
really strong opinions
23:49
about how things could improve.
23:52
And I think that's a
23:53
constructive conversation
23:54
that we could have maybe at a later date.
23:57
Because I do think it's
23:58
going to be quite some time before,
24:01
you know,
24:01
we find out details about what
24:03
happened and investigations
24:05
and all of that.
24:08
Andrew, go ahead.
24:11
If the games continue,
24:12
there will be changes for sure.
24:13
I think it's 50-50 whether
24:14
the games continue because
24:16
you know there will be a
24:17
big civil lawsuit.
24:19
We don't know what that is.
24:20
There are still facts to be determined.
24:26
There is an independent
24:27
investigation going on.
24:28
There is a police investigation going on.
24:31
We do not know any of those
24:33
facts or findings at this point.
24:36
I believe that it's more of
24:37
a 90-10 that the games go on.
24:40
From all other sports.
24:44
So in the same weekend,
24:46
two people died during the
24:48
Ironman triathlon in Madison, Wisconsin.
24:52
That is a very common thing
24:54
to happen during a triathlon.
24:57
Ironman has not gone away.
24:58
Yeah.
25:03
um and I've mentioned other
25:06
sports where that's
25:07
happened and it they didn't
25:09
even stop like the tour de
25:10
france didn't even stop so
25:18
um I think it will go on
25:21
but it it will go on and it
25:23
did there at the very
25:25
minimum there will be a
25:26
safety council that will
25:29
have to approve all the
25:30
events in my opinion
25:37
Yeah.
25:37
And, you know,
25:38
and I don't think any of us
25:39
want to see it go away.
25:41
I mean, we're all, you know,
25:43
we're here because we love the sport.
25:46
We make a lot of sacrifices to cover it.
25:48
We, you know,
25:48
we use our own money to get
25:50
there at being a former volunteer,
25:51
you know, people spend a lot of money to,
25:55
to do this and we love the
25:56
athletes and we love the
25:57
sports and all that.
25:58
And I think we want to see it succeed.
26:00
At least I do.
26:01
I want to see it succeed.
26:02
And I want to be part of the solution and,
26:05
and not part of sort of breaking it down.
26:10
Um, if that's possible.
26:14
While also remembering and
26:17
talking about Lazar and yes, yes.
26:19
Keeping him, keeping him in the forefront.
26:22
And both of those things can happen.
26:24
I mean, I hate, I'll be honest with you.
26:27
I hate that he is now going
26:28
to become the poster child
26:29
for safety at the games.
26:31
Like that sucks.
26:33
Um,
26:34
because he's so much more than that.
26:36
And that,
26:37
that's kind of why I feel like
26:40
separating the two sometimes, you know,
26:42
like having this discussion
26:44
was great and being able to
26:45
talk about it.
26:45
But I do,
26:46
I do think it's important that we
26:48
talk about some potential
26:50
solutions to the problem while,
26:53
while still maintaining his honor,
26:57
which is not going to be easy.
26:59
Yeah.
27:00
No, this is going to be easy.
27:02
No.
27:04
I didn't want this to be a
27:06
long show today.
27:07
I just wanted to kind of get
27:08
through these comments we wanted to make.
27:13
And again,
27:14
we'll continue to talk about
27:15
Lazar and carry his memory forward.
27:21
Yeah,
27:22
and we should try to pull up some
27:24
clips and things and just
27:25
sort of celebrate him as we
27:27
can and space him out.
27:28
I don't want this whole week
27:30
to be all about it and then
27:31
a month from now we're
27:33
not talking about it.
27:34
So we'll try to keep up that
27:36
cadence if we can.
27:38
Yeah.
27:39
Thank you everybody for joining us.
27:41
Um, it's been a tough weekend, um,
27:45
but I'm ready to heal.
27:46
I'm ready to,
27:48
to get back to some normalcy.
27:50
Um,
27:51
but I know that that's going to take
27:53
months for that to happen.
27:57
Well,
27:57
we'll see you next week guys on the
27:59
Clydesdale media round table.
28:01
Love you guys.
28:02
Bye.