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SEPULTURA's Final Curtain Call With ANDREAS KISSER · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: I'm Kira from Heavy Bag here with Andrea's Kissa from Sepultura.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you of course.
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  Speaker 1: Now only recently you've been in Australia celebrating your farewell
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  Speaker 1: tour with us. Did you find that it was a
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  Speaker 1: different feeling in the room with your farewell tours than usual,
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  Speaker 1: like high emotions.
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  Speaker 3: And baby, Yeah, no doubt about it. Since we announced
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  Speaker 3: the tour and the very first show, because the very
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  Speaker 3: first show was March first, two thy and twenty three,
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  Speaker 3: I guess yes, it's been a long time, twenty four
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  Speaker 3: and it was very emotional because it was in Belorrizonti,
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  Speaker 3: where Sepultura was from. You know, a lot a lot
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  Speaker 3: of friends, a lot of people who saw Sepultura start
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  Speaker 3: to being born family, and it was the first show
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  Speaker 3: with Grayson, you know. So it was very emotional from
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  Speaker 3: the start, and every show has been like that in
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  Speaker 3: a very positive way, you know.
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  Speaker 2: People.
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  Speaker 3: One thing that surprised me a lot was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people are coming to see Sepultura for the first time,
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  Speaker 3: and not because of the age, but for some reason,
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  Speaker 3: people that are following me Sepultura for so many years
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  Speaker 3: never the chance to see us live, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: it's great.
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  Speaker 2: To see that this.
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  Speaker 3: Farewell idea being the last you know, are bringing people
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  Speaker 3: to the concerts and and of course like people who
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  Speaker 3: met in a Sepultura concert many years ago, now they're
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  Speaker 3: coming with their kids and you know, they're married, and
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  Speaker 3: a lot of stories like that. You know that our
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  Speaker 3: personal lives are connected to the Sepultura influence somehow, you know,
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  Speaker 3: which is very amazing to have this straight contact and
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  Speaker 3: listen to the stories you know, from themselves.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course that's gonna make it a little bit
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  Speaker 1: hard annoying that it will be the final curtain call
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  Speaker 1: and you've just got all these beautiful new memories and
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  Speaker 1: all the new generations coming through and you're like, okay, farewell.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it's very healthy for us as
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  Speaker 3: an artist and for the band as well to rest.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if it's going to be forever or not,
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  Speaker 3: this is irrelevant right now. I mean, anything can happen
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  Speaker 3: in the future, you know, but for us it's really
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  Speaker 3: important right now forty two years of history. We need
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  Speaker 3: a time to ourselves, you know, to explore new ideas,
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to do something completely different, you know, of
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  Speaker 3: course heavy music and dealing with music, but also bringing
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  Speaker 3: more of the art, painting, drawing and acoustic guitar. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I still study music anyway. I mean, really try to
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  Speaker 3: explore new things, you know. I think it would be
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  Speaker 3: healthy not only for us as persons and artists, but
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  Speaker 3: also for the band and for the fans. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it create new atmospheres, and.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows in the future.
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  Speaker 3: The future just holds anything as possible, you know, any possibility,
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  Speaker 3: so when it comes, we'll decide what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I think that is really healthy as
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  Speaker 1: a person and as a band to give yourself face
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  Speaker 1: to explore and get out there and try something new
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  Speaker 1: that you haven't had the opportunity to.
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  Speaker 2: We have in the time of our life. You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's been an amazing tour, very positive and in a
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  Speaker 3: celebration the way we plan to be.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing. That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: And do you see yourself going on a slightly different path,
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  Speaker 1: like maybe something that's a little less technical for you
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  Speaker 1: that you can ease into, like you know, it's twelve
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  Speaker 1: string acoustic and something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have a seven string acoustic that
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  Speaker 3: I'm studying in this last year and exploring more of
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  Speaker 3: the possibilities and doing different things, and it's great. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I have so many ideas that my kids as well
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  Speaker 3: are amazing musicians, you know that maybe try to do
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  Speaker 3: something together as a family. But you know, there's so
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  Speaker 3: many possibilities.
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  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't like to decide anything now.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I have stuff, you know, already going We
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  Speaker 3: have parallel things with Sepultura. We all, you know, as
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  Speaker 3: individuals in the band, we have parallel things that we
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  Speaker 3: might put more time into it, but also start something.
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  Speaker 2: New, you know. So yeah, in time, let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. And of course you've got no shortage
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  Speaker 1: of amazing friends and musicians peers, so no doubt that
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  Speaker 1: they're sneaking into your inbox knowing that you have some
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  Speaker 1: down time coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I have different projects going on, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm already working some something.
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  Speaker 2: Some stuff, as I said, but who knows.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just did two shows with mister Bungo,
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  Speaker 3: for instance. It was an amazing ex experience. You know,
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  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. It happens because of certain situations
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  Speaker 3: and stuff and who knows.
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  Speaker 2: But as I said, you know everything it's possible.
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  Speaker 3: I like to keep my possibilities open and when it comes,
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  Speaker 3: I would decided.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, follow your heart and take the opportunities as they come.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. Now you have forty years under your belt
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  Speaker 1: with Sepulteur, You've got all these accolades, fourteen gold records,
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  Speaker 1: performances across eighty countries, which is huge. You don't strike
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  Speaker 1: me as someone who gloats or anything like that. You're
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  Speaker 1: very nice and humble man. But do you sit there
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  Speaker 1: and kind of reflect and pat yourself on the back
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  Speaker 1: or do you think this is you just living out
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  Speaker 1: what you love to do in any accolades or a
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  Speaker 1: bonus along the way.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. It's a privilege to.
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  Speaker 3: Do what you love right regardless of the profession or
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  Speaker 3: what you do here. And it's a privilege really. I
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  Speaker 3: think art is an amazing world, you know, an amazing
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  Speaker 3: atmosphere that it's a self knowledge process and journey. You
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  Speaker 3: know that you deal with yourself through through your you know,
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  Speaker 3: guitar or painting or writing or movies or you know
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  Speaker 3: anything expression. You know, So it's definitely something that I
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  Speaker 3: always remember where I came from, you know, like in
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  Speaker 3: my room listening to Kiss and Motorhead and with my
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  Speaker 3: headphones only dreaming to see those bands live, because in
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  Speaker 3: Brazil it was impossible to have concerts around, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the seventies and the eighties started really slowly in the
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  Speaker 3: early eighties. The first big show I saw was Kiss
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  Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty three. You know, up to that point
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  Speaker 3: was just like listening to the live albums and imagining
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  Speaker 3: and and I would like to remember every day, you
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  Speaker 3: know that here I am doing, you know, the stuff
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  Speaker 3: that I dreamed and even more, I mean, the reality
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  Speaker 3: of sepulteur in my career. It goes further beyond anything
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  Speaker 3: that I could dream at the time.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's great, a fantastic journey that I build a
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  Speaker 3: family around, you know, with three kids and all the friends,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, the ups and downs of being an artist,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with the technological changes and stuff, and here
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  Speaker 3: we are living probably the best moment in our career.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's a fantastic feeling to have this privilege
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  Speaker 3: to stop in our prime, conscious of our decision, with
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  Speaker 3: no stress, you know, just like enjoying ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing Yeah, beautiful way to say it too. You
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  Speaker 1: really have the best job in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't argue with that.
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  Speaker 1: Man now, talking about growing up in Brazil and not
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  Speaker 1: having the most easiest access to music and whatnot. I've
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  Speaker 1: heard you talked about schizophrenia in the nineteen eighty seven
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  Speaker 1: album and expressing that and being in a world where
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  Speaker 1: you're not really accepted for having your long hair or
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  Speaker 1: looking a certain way or you know, so this was
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  Speaker 1: your way of expressing yourself. Would you say it's different
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  Speaker 1: nowadays in Brazil accepted to have this as your art
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  Speaker 1: and you know your expression.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, completely today heavy metal, it's part of our DNA.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we have a heavy metal Day in San
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  Speaker 3: Paulo honoring Andre Matos, you know that passed away, the
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  Speaker 3: singer from Anger and Shaman, an amazing musician that passed
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  Speaker 3: away a few years ago, and he was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: his date of passing was now. It's the heavy metal Day,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So and you see like made the Metallica
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  Speaker 3: or any metal band that comes down to Brazil. It's
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  Speaker 3: like a sold out in minutes. You know, we have
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  Speaker 3: an amazing crowd. We have so many bands coming out
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  Speaker 3: from Brazil. Heavy metal is so inclusive. You know, you
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  Speaker 3: don't see cancelation of let's say Rob Halfers from Judus
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  Speaker 3: Free Priests came out as a homosexual. You know, you
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  Speaker 3: see embracement, you see warmed, you see connection, you see understanding.
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  Speaker 3: You know, women as well like to express themselves through metal.
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  Speaker 3: You see how many women, probably more than any other
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  Speaker 3: style of music, you know, to express doing bands and
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  Speaker 3: being singers or whatever instruments. And you know, even Derek
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  Speaker 3: as a black guy in the metal band, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like Sepultura, it was very rare, like in nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 3: seven especially, you know, and you see how much we
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  Speaker 3: embrace anything basically and everything. You know, that's why have
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  Speaker 3: a metal is the most popular style in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Sepultura visited more than eighty countries in forty two years
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  Speaker 3: of history. It's an amazing achievement because of heavy metal,
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  Speaker 3: regardless of the politics of religion or anything. We went
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  Speaker 3: to Indonesia, we went to you know, to Egypt, you know, Morocco,
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  Speaker 3: we went to the United States.
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  Speaker 2: Australia, you know, everywhere. It's a fantastic community.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the heavy metal fan they don't like to
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  Speaker 3: buy bootleg they like to buy the official stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they like to buy the official album, official merge.
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  Speaker 2: It helps the whole structure, regular label, bands, management.
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  Speaker 3: You know, everything, it's connected, you know, it's it's well organized.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very respectful crowd.
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  Speaker 3: Anywhere you go, you know, anyone can feel safe, you know,
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  Speaker 3: especially in Brazil, which is like you know, violent and
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  Speaker 3: you know, lots of robbery and stuff. You see, you
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  Speaker 3: feel safe in a metal community, you know. So it's
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  Speaker 3: great to be a part of this, and it's very
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  Speaker 3: inspiring for young people as well, you know, to have
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  Speaker 3: an option of a career to sturdy. I learned new languages,
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  Speaker 3: I learned to play new different styles. I met my idols,
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  Speaker 3: you know, throughout music to you know, it's it's an
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  Speaker 3: amazing it's an amazing way of life, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think there's a better kind of
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  Speaker 1: community or more accepting and I think that's why people
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  Speaker 1: are mostly scared of us, because we are so and
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  Speaker 1: loving and we're not afraid to be who we are,
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  Speaker 1: and people generally don't want to they can't accept that,
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  Speaker 1: but we can definitely definite community. Now, can we please
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  Speaker 1: talk about road Running United's twenty fifth anniversary show and album,
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  Speaker 1: because I can't believe I'm talking to someone who was
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  Speaker 1: a part of this every year, and just I cannot
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  Speaker 1: imagine the feeling of being in the room and collaborating
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  Speaker 1: with everyone in there. What was it like? And just
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  Speaker 1: do you have any memories that stand out for you?
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  Speaker 3: A lot, many lots of memories. I was very ordered
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  Speaker 3: to be a part of it. Dino Cazares called me
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  Speaker 3: to be a part or road Runner invited me to
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  Speaker 3: First Dino invited me to be a part of the album.
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  Speaker 3: Dino was one of the captains there, you know, was
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  Speaker 3: Rob Flynn, you know, you know, I don't remember the
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  Speaker 3: other two, but uh, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then he called me.
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  Speaker 3: I went to the States and we were together Roy
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  Speaker 3: My Orga and stuff and uh and then we record
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  Speaker 3: the album a few songs and et cetera. And then
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  Speaker 3: came to the party right in New York and I
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  Speaker 3: was invited to be a part of the of the
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  Speaker 3: team who organized everything. So it was me, Dino Kazaris,
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  Speaker 3: Roy My Organ, Paul Gray, Joey Jordansen, and Adam from
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  Speaker 3: a Machine Head.
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  Speaker 2: So we organized everything.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the songs we will play, you know, all
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  Speaker 3: the the homage I've felt very honored that Roots, Bloody
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  Speaker 3: Roots was the song to close down everything, like two
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  Speaker 3: drum sets, everybody on stage, you know, Slipknot guys and
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  Speaker 3: Scotty Ian and him and so many amazing people that
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  Speaker 3: were a part of Roadrunner history somehow, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: a biohazard and life of agony type of negative. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it was an amazing party, man, and I think I
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  Speaker 3: played I think eighteen to nineteen songs Merciful, Fate, King
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  Speaker 3: Diamond on the side of course.
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  Speaker 2: Appule tourist stuff. You know.
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  Speaker 3: We spent like two weeks in Los Angeles rehearsing everything.
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  Speaker 3: We have a huge chart table on the wall to
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  Speaker 3: organize the musicians and watch songs we will play and
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  Speaker 3: you know, and then in New York we had the
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  Speaker 3: whole running down of the show and then the show itself.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was a lot of work, but us work.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was amazing. It was a fantastic feeling.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, how did you guys pull that off? Like so
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  Speaker 1: many musicians, it was such a big time frame and
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  Speaker 1: every we all.
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  Speaker 3: Pros I mean in a sense that we know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we are musicians. Musicians there are very experienced with lots
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  Speaker 3: of touring and lots of album recordings, working with producers,
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  Speaker 3: and in situations like that, we're.
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  Speaker 2: Very used to do.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff with no time or limitations of space and room
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  Speaker 3: and you know, not sleeping, not eating and that kind
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  Speaker 3: of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: So everything helped each other. Everybody helped each other to
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  Speaker 3: make it happen.
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  Speaker 1: So cool, And did you realize at the time how
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  Speaker 1: much of an impact that would have in the future
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  Speaker 1: even now? What are we twenty twenty six years?
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I think so for the people involved and
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  Speaker 3: for the history of road Runner and simple Tour is
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  Speaker 3: a huge part of Roadrunner, you know, I mean, and
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  Speaker 3: vice versa, of course, and without each other, we wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be what we are today, neither the record label, neither us,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So I was very special to be there
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  Speaker 3: to represent Sepultura and to represent that part of history.
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  Speaker 3: And like I said, you know, Roots was the closer,
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's a big, big meaning of how
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  Speaker 3: representative Sepultura is on the road Runner's history.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's huge, huge honour. Oh that's so cool. I
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  Speaker 1: can hear you talk about it all days. It's just
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  Speaker 1: it's such a it just it blows my mind just
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  Speaker 1: watching and all listening to it all because it's just
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  Speaker 1: a melting part of incredible.
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  Speaker 2: We need to make more parties like that, right, Oh yes, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Like why are we doing this? Like it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: so cool. It's like, yeah, finding all your favorite and
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  Speaker 1: just watching it over and over and.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, there he is.
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  Speaker 1: There. He is so really honest to be out a
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  Speaker 1: chat to you. That's really cool. You I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about you know, traditionally with bands like we just
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  Speaker 1: spoke about that party culture that was so thick, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, you play music, you drink beer, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you do drugs or whatever. It was without that being
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  Speaker 1: at the forefront of your tour life. Now, do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like it's just improves the experience completely without having
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  Speaker 1: late night missions been able to people, Yeah, has it
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  Speaker 1: just changed everything better?
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  Speaker 2: We are better than ever.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I quit alcohol now for six years, Paolo
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  Speaker 3: for four years and a half or five, Derek even
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  Speaker 3: longer than myself. Grayson is like just a occasionally drinker
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  Speaker 3: here and there, very very light and it shows. I mean, uh,
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  Speaker 3: we are much healthier, we wake up earlier, we can
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  Speaker 3: enjoy whatever we are in town.
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  Speaker 2: I have my bicycle, I go around.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. We are much more aware, not only on stage,
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  Speaker 3: playing better, but also on business wise, you know, backstage
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  Speaker 3: stuff and contracts and dealing with managers and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You're just more aware. You're more aware of reality.
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  Speaker 3: You don't numb yourself with alcohol and hangovers. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: on the Rise and ks A d The Pantera tour
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  Speaker 3: was very heavy drinking tour. You know, like shots before
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  Speaker 3: the show, shots during the show, shots after the show,
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  Speaker 3: and and you get used to that. Every day, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you have a bottle of Jack Daniels every day, maybe
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  Speaker 3: two every day, beer, wine, vodka, wherever you name it.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: And then you you you have a day off, what
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  Speaker 3: you do You go to a bar to drink, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and and then you arrive at the airport.
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  Speaker 2: What you do? You go to a bar, you go
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  Speaker 2: to the plane. You are the alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you you think, this is normal, this is
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  Speaker 3: the way it's supposed to be right us for many years,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but it gets to a point that that
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  Speaker 3: you realize that it's just pure venom. You know, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't bring anything good to your life. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: almost destroy my family because.
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  Speaker 2: Of alcohol, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And there was the very moment I decided to quit.
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  Speaker 3: It was them or the or a fucking bottle of
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  Speaker 3: wine or whiskey, you know, and I did it. I
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  Speaker 3: decided not to be a slave of alcohol anymore, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And that brings a whole new perspective on everything in life.
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  Speaker 3: I'm much more healthier. I start doing therapy, meditation, pilatis
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  Speaker 3: and running and uh, you know, dude, I feel much
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  Speaker 3: better than I was in when I was twenty five,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do thirty push ups today. I couldn't do five twenties,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so it's great. It's a very exciting you
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  Speaker 3: know too. I'm fifty seven years old now, and I
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  Speaker 3: feel great because I made decisions in my life. You know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: new habits, new frequencies, new energy, and you have a
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: whole new perspective of life, which is much healthier, you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: in every aspect.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: That's so cool. You chose you ultimately in the end,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and now you get to enjoy life, actually go to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: new cities and whatnot. And yes, you remember things yourself.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we remember things, and we feel better. We feel
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: more motivated with better energy, you know, to face a
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: hard life on the road, which.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Is not easy.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: No, not at all, especially not forty years of it
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and over eighty countries. I just can't even imagine. Hughes
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: now your newest ep, The Cloud of Unknowing? Is that
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: really soon? So just over a week tomorrow, I believe
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: on the twenty fourth. You're very gracious to leave us
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: with that as your parting gifted you like and first song,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it's all systems are going, going, yeah, let's go. And
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: then you get into the second song and it's quite
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: haunting and beautiful and it's just everything's well placed. Did
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you approach this with like very carefully or was were
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you just going in like this is what we're gonna leave.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: With or it was so spontaneous. We didn't have any plan.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: To record anything. When we announced the Farewell tour, you
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: know we were done. I mean, we were working on
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: a live album, which is recording every show where. We
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: organized that for next year. But this is a different
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: project which we're ready on the process when we announced
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: the Farewell So but you know, Grayson came into the band.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: He brought the new energy, new ideas, this jazzy background
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: that we never had in Sepultura, and during sound checks
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: and rehearsals were always playing around and improvising and stuff,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: and the chemistry was great, you know. So we did
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: the seventy thousand Tons of Metal, which is the Cruise,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: the metal Cruise that lives in Miami and Jamaica.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Miami.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: So since we were there, we sece the opportunity to
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: go to the studio, the Criteria Studios in Miami, which
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: is an iconic, amazing studio, and we spend ten days there.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I have a few ideas, a few riffs and demos.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: The riff from the place, for instance, I wrote in
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the Lockdown, you know, like four years or five years ago.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: So you know, we decided to go.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: The third song, Sacred Books, was written one hundred percent
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: in the studio, you know, just like jamming and coming
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: up with ideas and stuff. So we didn't have a
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: name for the album. We didn't have a name for
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the songs, we didn't have a cover, we didn't have
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: a release date.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Nothing.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: We just went in the studio. Let's make the best
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: of this opportunity and go and work music pure, you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: with no interference from the outside world. Let's say, you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: the record label, no do dates or press and anything
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: like that, you know. So it was an amazing process
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: with it came naturally, you know, we're not planning too much,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: which just happened. It happened, you know, everything was falling
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: too place, you know, and then we saw.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: We were in Miami recording. You know. It was great,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and then we took the whole year to mix. You know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: we relaxed in the schedule.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Everyone, you know, go after the artwork, find the artist
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and you know, the cover and everything else that are
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: connected to the album, the name for the song, the
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: name from the album, all the concept and everything, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: we finally we're gonna put it out now, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: and we have the chance on this last year to
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: play those songs live.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: You know. We started in Australia playing the place.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Now we release Beyond the Dream and they always coming
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: out and the American tour, we're gonna have more new songs,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: you know. So it's an awesome thing for us as
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: well to have something new, you know, to present and
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: for us to play as well.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: You know. It's great.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the best answer that he could have just said.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Do the best work is no pressure, like.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I mean everyone, right, not only musicians,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: but all of us. If you're really into that, you
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: you embrace everything and you're part of the process. You know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: you're not outside trying to control everything, but you are
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: together with the movement that everything that is happening. You know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: so in a sense where it's very artistic, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: one of the most artistic albums that we ever did
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: or EP right.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shorter album.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, basically I'm excited. I'm going to go back and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: listen to it with that lens now and it's just nice. Yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. So is it true that you know
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Otober you're planning on or you have extended an invitation
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to all members past and present to come along and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: play like the final show together.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: We talked to the Cavallera brothers. I talked to Igor
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: a few months ago, but they are not interested to be.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: A part of it. And that's fine.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I Mean, it's a when you make a question, it's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: like fifty to fifty percent right yes or no. Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: But we felt we felt we we had to to invite.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm still we're still gonna we're still in
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: you know, organizing this last show and stuff, and I
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: know the schedule of people, and fortunately all the musicians
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: are very busy, you know, working and stuff. But we
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: are celebrating at the moment, right. We're not celebrating any
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: part a specific part of the past. We are celebrating
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Sepultour twenty twenty six. So you know, whatever we want
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: to be a part of it, are welcome, and uh,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: we'd like to have a good vibe and celebrate like
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: the store. You know, we're having the best times and
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: let's see, it's going to be a beautiful party.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: And beautiful outlook. I think that's a nice sentiment to
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the end of it as well.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, very cool. Sorry.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Lastly, I believe it's safe to say that Seculteer is
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: not ending. It will never end, because it'll live a
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: legacy in your fans and your music and everything that
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you're living behind. Is that a true and safe statement?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Would you say? Sure? Yeah.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Motorhead is a life and well in my heart and
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: my soul forever until I die. You know, they're still
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: very powerful. Every time I listen. I have the privilege
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: to tour with Motorhead, to spend time with Lemmy and
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Phil Campbell and Mickey d and you know all the
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: crew and the management. I mean, such a privilege, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: such a privilege. And they're still very powerful in my
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: in my point of view, you know the way. They
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: still are a very big influence on everything I do.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: And Lemmy is one of the gods, right, so.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: You're always gonna guide us forever.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't see anything behind me, but it's got Lemmy,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: it's got Aussie, it's got Jimmy, Hendrix van Halen, I think.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: All of all of them, the Olympus, Matt Rushmore.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, look, you have been sorry, awesome to speak
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to you. I've just had so much fun. I could
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: honestly sit here and chat to you all day.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks, thank you so much. Thank you.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I better let you go, but all the best. I'm going,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: sure the best for the ep I. Everyone's gonna love it.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And good luck for the rest of your farewell show.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Last time we see you.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: We see each other in a different way in the
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: different projects and stuff, and soon let's see what happens,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: all
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Right, Thank you so much, so much,