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RHONJ: Jacqueline on Teresa Reunion PLUS RHOP Reunion Recap · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Andy Cone kept bringing up my name on watching It
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Speaker 1: Happens Live, like with Teresa, I think it's time to
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Speaker 1: end that war. And you know, he would say little
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Speaker 1: things like bringing me up. And I heard her in
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Speaker 1: a few different things where she was saying, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: she would talk to me or I knew it was there,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't want to reach out because I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to get back into that world, like I was,
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Speaker 1: I'm good here whatever. You know, I didn't know how
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Speaker 1: she truly felt, because sometimes she'll say one thing I
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Speaker 1: didn't know, you know. And then one morning, I like
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Speaker 1: woke up to a text from her saying she was
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Speaker 1: going to be in Vegas and that she wanted to
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Speaker 1: meet me for a cup of coffee.
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Speaker 2: to you guys. I love doing this podcast. We are reunited,
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Speaker 2: are going to be more shady.
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Speaker 1: Y'all.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not shady, wink wink no, but this season
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Speaker 2: we are going to be bigger and better than ever.
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Speaker 2: We are going to talk about some other reality shows
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Speaker 2: too that I can't wait to introduce you all to,
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Speaker 2: my opinion that is, and we are going to have
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Speaker 2: way more exclusive interviews than ever. One of the things
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Speaker 2: we are going to do differently this season is we
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Speaker 2: are going to start off giving you guys episodes once
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Speaker 2: a week. Why you ask, because I want you all
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Speaker 2: to marri day on exactly what I'm talking about. These
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Speaker 2: interviews that I'm doing are so special and I feel
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Speaker 2: like last season, Child, I'm a dropper interview. Y'all will
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Speaker 2: love it and then tell a friend, then phone a
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Speaker 2: friend word of mouth, and then the next thing you know,
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Speaker 2: y'all have all these other interviews, interfere with it, and Child,
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Speaker 2: it was a big old mess. So we are going
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Speaker 2: to be much more streamlined this year. Look, it may
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Speaker 2: be once a we're gonna give out something, or if
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Speaker 2: we have some exclusive breaking news news, I may give
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Speaker 2: y'all an episode twice a week. But nevertheless, I'm back, baby,
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Speaker 2: and guess what i ain't going nowhere. I'm also going
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Speaker 2: to do a new segment called Hot Topics, Baby. Yes,
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Speaker 2: Hot Topics is going to be my take where I'm
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Speaker 2: going to give y'all some exclusive t of what's happening
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Speaker 2: in reality TV. So oftentimes you may get two recaps
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Speaker 2: in one episode. You may get a recap in addition
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Speaker 2: to an interview. So although you may get episodes once
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Speaker 2: a week, I'm still gonna feed y'all with a lot
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Speaker 2: more Child. All right, let's get right into it, y'all.
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Speaker 2: The Real Housewives of Potomy Park one reunion. This reunion
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Speaker 2: belonged to Candas. This was Candace reunion, and this is
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Speaker 2: the reason why I was so adamant that Candace should
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Speaker 2: have first seat. This first part proved that Candace and
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Speaker 2: Karen should have switched seat. So since we're on the
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Speaker 2: topic of seating, I thought it was very interesting that
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Speaker 2: for the first time in Real Housewives history, they broke
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Speaker 2: the fourth wall and actually discussed the reunion seating assignment.
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Speaker 2: I've said to y'all before that the seating assignment is
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Speaker 2: organized by the producers, and like Andy said tonight, yes
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Speaker 2: he does have a voice in it. I think this
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Speaker 2: setting assignment may be worse than last reunions of Atlanta
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Speaker 2: seitting assignment like this one made absolutely no sense. And
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Speaker 2: then the rationale love, Well, you know sometimes when people
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Speaker 2: are getting along, you know, we don't want them to
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Speaker 2: sitting next to each other. Well, if that's the case,
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Speaker 2: then while was Sognia, Richard Ross, and Drew sitting next
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Speaker 2: to each other last Atlanta reunion. The only thing I
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Speaker 2: will say is Candice proved tonight why she deserved first seat,
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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna leave it at that. Now. What I
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Speaker 2: didn't love is Ashley making all these excuses about Michael.
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Speaker 2: Michael Darby played you sis, But that ain't nothing but
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Speaker 2: a good old karma. You have single handedly mess it
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Speaker 2: up for every woman who marries a man for his money.
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Speaker 2: Let's just call it what it is. You had to
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Speaker 2: slob on that Perdue Chicken Allah Michael Darby all these
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Speaker 2: years just to walk away with having to share a key, Ashley.
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Speaker 2: While you were sitting around meddling in everyone's business, Michael
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Speaker 2: was at Chase Bank Wells Fargo Vanguard getting all of
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Speaker 2: this information that he needed to make sure that his
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Speaker 2: bag was secured. You have resulted in the embarrassment of
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Speaker 2: your husband, allegedly photos of him in a hotel honey
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Speaker 2: with his boxer breaths, allegedly grabbing people's butts. You suffer
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Speaker 2: through all that embarrassment just to be doubled embarrassed by
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Speaker 2: looking inside your savings account and seeing the point zero
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Speaker 2: one percent interest rate that you incurred over the years
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Speaker 2: of being next to Perdue Chicken. Candace got you when
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Speaker 2: she brought up generation of Wealth. She gave a good
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Speaker 2: old Vanessa Huxtable sermon. Baby. In the end, it goes
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Speaker 2: to show you that Kansas won. Not only did you
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Speaker 2: lose the round in your relationship, you lost the round
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Speaker 2: at the reunion because Candas got you real good and
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Speaker 2: you had nothing to say after it. We now have
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Speaker 2: to talk about the other portion of the reunion, which
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Speaker 2: is Mia. Mia watching you tonight reminded me of The Apprentice,
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Speaker 2: where you're in the boardroom fighting for your life in
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Speaker 2: front of Donald Trump, where you have to explain something
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Speaker 2: and the math wasn't math in and Mia allege that
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Speaker 2: there's eight board members a part of the company where
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Speaker 2: she's the CEO, and allegedly some members of this board
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Speaker 2: who allegedly maybe Gordon's brothers, they pretty much iced her
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Speaker 2: out of the account and she now has no income.
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Speaker 2: All jokes aside, is a very sad situation. Normally, when
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Speaker 2: you're the CEO and you own majority of the company,
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Speaker 2: there's a clause in your operating agreement. Because MIA's right
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Speaker 2: about that, in the operating agreement where you pretty much
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Speaker 2: got final say. The problem is they took away MIA's
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Speaker 2: money and pretty much kicked her out of the company
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Speaker 2: that she's the CEO of. One thing about Mia, she
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Speaker 2: was right in the sense of when you're the CEO
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Speaker 2: of the company, oftentimes you get paid a salary as
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Speaker 2: an employee. I do not believe Mia was lying. I
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Speaker 2: think the business agreement was so complicated that Mia was
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Speaker 2: just trying to find the words in that environment to
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Speaker 2: explain herself. So I don't think she was lying. In general,
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Speaker 2: I do believe that she just got caught up in
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Speaker 2: the moment, the lights, the camera, the action, the heat.
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Speaker 2: But I do strongly believe that Mia, unfortunately is in
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Speaker 2: a very dire situation. I feel bad for her because
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Speaker 2: she's not the first and she won't to be the
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Speaker 2: last in terms of somebody that got handed a bad situation,
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Speaker 2: because sometimes you trust people to handle the books and
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Speaker 2: they could be doing something shady behind the scenes. And
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Speaker 2: I do think it's a tell tell sign that all
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Speaker 2: of us included, we gotta stop living outside of our means.
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Speaker 2: You don't need to be keeping up with nobody. It's
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Speaker 2: okay to say, until I get back on my foot,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to buy a house that may costs, I
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Speaker 2: don't know, two hundred thousand dollars for me, my husband,
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Speaker 2: my three kids. You don't have to live fancy. Ashley
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Speaker 2: came even for her own penhouse allegedly, that's why Michael
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Speaker 2: Darby has the keys to it. What else happened is
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Speaker 2: re union listen Gazelle is alleging that there was some
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Speaker 2: embelselement going on. Candace versus Gazelle. You want to hear
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Speaker 2: a full recap of my Real Housewives upper to Reunion
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Speaker 2: Park One, head over to my YouTube page at de
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Speaker 2: Carlos King Underscore. Stay tuned. When we get back from break,
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Speaker 2: we are joined by my special guest, Jacqueline LaRita, the
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Speaker 2: og from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. This is
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Speaker 2: Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get
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Speaker 2: back into the show. This woman is my love, she's
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Speaker 2: my friend. We have so many great memories to share
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Speaker 2: with you all today. She is so iconic. She is
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Speaker 2: the most requested Jersey housewife that they want to come
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Speaker 2: back to the show. Of course, I'm talking Abouttho to Lucy,
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Speaker 2: we talk about Jacquelin LaRita.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Plan, I love you, I miss.
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Speaker 2: You, I missed you more.
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Speaker 1: You were the one producer I could pull anything out
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Speaker 1: of me.
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Speaker 3: I was like, I am not saying anything in my interview.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna and then by the time I was
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Speaker 1: done with you, I'm like saying everything.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, how did he do that? It's like magical, Oh,
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Speaker 2: you're so so, but no, you weren't. Listen, Jacqueline was
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Speaker 2: so fun to work with. Jacqueline, Let's talk about the
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Speaker 2: early days of Jersey when it was just so fun. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was so fun.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they're just gonna follow our lives.
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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I was going in with friends
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Speaker 3: and family. You know, Danielle was new. We just met
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Speaker 3: her before filming.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. We just had so much fun even
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Speaker 1: off camera, like on camera and off camera was like
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Speaker 1: so much fun. Like everybody would stay out after we
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Speaker 1: were done filming and we would just talk and eat
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Speaker 1: and have a good time.
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Speaker 2: Jacqueline would cook for the crew and you know, listen,
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Speaker 2: it's a big Italian family, so they love to cook.
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Speaker 2: And after we were wrapped for the day, they would say, like, guys,
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Speaker 2: we made extra food for you. Just stay here, have
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Speaker 2: a glass of wine. It was a family and acclam
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Speaker 2: was always like, Carlos, this is so funny, Like what
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Speaker 2: are we doing here? Like I'm kind of famous, this
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Speaker 2: is weird. I didn't sign up for this. When did
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Speaker 2: you realize Real House Spots in New Jersey was a
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Speaker 2: big hit.
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Speaker 1: Well, it was after the table flip obviously, when it
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Speaker 1: started getting all this attention. I was like, no one's
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Speaker 1: gonna watch this show, Like I didn't even really watch
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Speaker 1: reality TV.
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Speaker 3: I didn't know it was that big of a thing.
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Speaker 1: Like I didn't really get the whole process, like where
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Speaker 1: this was going, who you know was watching it? And
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Speaker 1: then after the table flip, I started seeing it like
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Speaker 1: pop up everywhere. And then we were out in the city.
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Speaker 1: I think we were doing press or something, and people
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Speaker 1: were running up to us crying and like hugging us,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, are they talking to me? Like who
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Speaker 1: do they think I am? Like it was the weirdest feeling,
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Speaker 1: just having people recognize you and talk to you like
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Speaker 1: and I love meeting people, you know, I talked to
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Speaker 1: like strangers, I talk to everybody like. I love it.
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Speaker 1: And I just had no idea that it was gonna
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Speaker 1: be that, you know, And it just came really fast
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Speaker 1: and just people recognizing and reaching out, and I don't know,
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Speaker 1: it was really it was very surreal.
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Speaker 3: Like I have a lot of social.
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Speaker 1: Anxiety and I'm great with people one on one, but
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Speaker 1: around like a bunch of people or people looking at me,
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Speaker 1: like if I was in front of a stage or
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Speaker 1: a crowd, I can't do that.
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Speaker 3: So for me, it was very uncomfortable for me.
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Speaker 1: Having to do interviews, and when we would go on
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Speaker 1: these talk shows and stuff, I get like anxiety before
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Speaker 1: those things that would break out and.
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Speaker 2: Hide like she's not lying. Even when we had to
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Speaker 2: do our interviews, she was always like, Carlo, this is
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Speaker 2: the worst part of the experience, Like me sitting in
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Speaker 2: a chair talking to you, like we can talk off camera,
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Speaker 2: but talking to the camera, you were always like that
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Speaker 2: part was always where so no, she's telling the truth
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Speaker 2: about that. Talk to us, Jacqueline. Before we get to
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Speaker 2: your iconic history on the show, how did you begin
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Speaker 2: cast to be on The Real Housewives in New Jersey?
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Speaker 1: I guess to the producers from Sirens were going around,
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Speaker 1: you know, our neighborhood, and they went to our local
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Speaker 1: salon and they were asking the owners of the salon, like,
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Speaker 1: do you know a group of women around here they're
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Speaker 1: like friendly with each other, that have a little, you know,
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Speaker 1: a little affluence and that would make good TV or
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Speaker 1: I don't even know. They were asking the owners of
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Speaker 1: the salon, and I guess they gave them my name
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Speaker 1: and Dina's name, and they called me at the time
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Speaker 1: they said it was called Jersey Moms. It was kind
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Speaker 1: of yes, we didn't know like what that really was about.
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Speaker 1: And I remember I was on a trip to California
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Speaker 1: and I was talking.
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Speaker 3: To Lucilla from Sirens at the time. Yeah, and then
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Speaker 3: I came back.
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Speaker 1: We did an interview, and then they called and said
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Speaker 1: that we got it. I guess they liked me.
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Speaker 2: No, listen, you're so genuine. And the reason why I
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Speaker 2: believe the show was a hit is because I think
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Speaker 2: the earlier days of Our Housewives was rude in reality. Yes,
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Speaker 2: it was so real. I think nowadays people are playing
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Speaker 2: the camera yes right exact when they want to have
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Speaker 2: a moment, and it's not where it used to be.
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Speaker 2: Like obviously, your sister in law was Dina and Caroline,
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Speaker 2: your friend was Teresa, your friend was Danielle, And when
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Speaker 2: you look back on the show is not what it
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Speaker 2: represents anymore. To me, I believe.
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Speaker 1: So what happened was we came on being ourselves. This
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Speaker 1: is like real drama. We got ourselves into everything was
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Speaker 1: authentically you know, happening and whatever. We didn't know what
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Speaker 1: was going on. Then it airs and it blows up.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like anybody knew coming to the show,
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Speaker 1: They're coming knowing kind of the show has drama, so
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Speaker 1: they're like, I'm coming to bring it. I'm gonna do it.
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Speaker 1: Like everyone wants to have that moment on camera. Instead
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Speaker 1: of being authentically in the moment and reacting how they
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Speaker 1: would naturally react, everybody's like hyping everything up. It feels
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Speaker 1: like that to me, and they're like playing to the
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Speaker 1: camera a lot more. I feel like a lot of
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Speaker 1: even storylines are more fabricated and it's not as authentic
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Speaker 1: as it used to be. And that's when I thought
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Speaker 1: it was good when it was family and heart and
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Speaker 1: relatable to people. Now it's like, let me get in
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Speaker 1: there and show myself, you know, like people just wanting
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Speaker 1: to be famous or you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: It's a different vibe for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And I will say this when it comes
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Speaker 2: to the five original Housewives of Jersey, you all were
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Speaker 2: just being yourselves. Jacqueline and Teresa was like, we're just
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Speaker 2: gonna have fun. We think it's funny. We're just like,
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Speaker 2: you know, like listen, we're real housewives. We have all
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Speaker 2: these kids. We take care of our children. Jacqueline Teresa
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Speaker 2: used to stay on the phone from six am until
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Speaker 2: we were filming, and then they would look. I would
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Speaker 2: get so mad at Jacqueline. Guys, this Jacqueline. Jacqueline will
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Speaker 2: leave the seed. Call Teresa, tell Teresa everything. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm like the Jacqueline wait, not tell me and.
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Speaker 1: Tell your friend.
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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: You don't think the girls do that. We would always
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Speaker 1: like give each other a heads up, and I know
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Speaker 1: we weren't allowed to do that, but it was like
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Speaker 1: you have to give the little heads up to know
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Speaker 1: where what's going on.
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Speaker 2: You know, well, you look back at the earlier season,
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Speaker 2: I mean listen. Obviously, it was a lot of fun
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Speaker 2: moments and it was a lot of deep stuff because
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Speaker 2: it was family. One of the biggest moments that people
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Speaker 2: shall talk about, Like you said, it's the table flip,
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Speaker 2: but it's also dealing with the fact that you were
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Speaker 2: caught in the middle between your friendship with Danielle and
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Speaker 2: your sister in laws. Can you talk to us about
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Speaker 2: that moment, because one thing I shared was the fact
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Speaker 2: that we knew Danielle was gonna bring the book I
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Speaker 2: hit under the table.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, Carlos, How did you get under
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Speaker 1: the table. Is that true? You were under the table.
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Speaker 2: I left video village where the producers were. I crawled.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was a long table.
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Speaker 2: It was a long table. And listen, I'm like five
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Speaker 2: foot ten and I'm like crawling. And it was so
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Speaker 2: funny to sort of reveal that the tension was so
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Speaker 2: thick in that room. My god, talk to us about
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Speaker 2: that and how you just had to blurt out like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, I gotta just be honest here. And
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Speaker 2: I think that was the moment we all realized Jacqueline
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Speaker 2: and are the same, the sense of they can't fake it. No.
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Speaker 1: And it's funny too, because I was talking about a
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Speaker 1: whole different thing than what the viewers were talking about,
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Speaker 1: because on the show, they thought the whole coming out
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Speaker 1: of the book was at Chateau is where it first
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Speaker 1: came out, and that's where and I wasn't a part
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Speaker 1: of that, Like I wasn't there for that. I was
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Speaker 1: told by people that worked there that they were both
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Speaker 1: showing the book there, but I did not. I couldn't
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Speaker 1: speak to that because that's not where the book came
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Speaker 1: out for us. So I think I was just frustrated
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Speaker 1: because you know, when the book brought I don't want
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Speaker 1: to like bring up bad feelings because like I'm in
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Speaker 1: a good place with my fly. But when the book
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Speaker 1: came out, like everyone was curious about it, and when
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Speaker 1: it was in one's hands, you know, people were talking
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Speaker 1: about it. So for me, I was frustrated because when
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Speaker 1: everybody was owning up to the fact that they knew
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Speaker 1: about the book, like for me, everyone got afraid to
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Speaker 1: held Danielle that they saw the book. I'm like, I
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Speaker 1: don't care. I'll tell her like I want answers, you know,
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Speaker 1: like I'll talk to her. I don't care. And I
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Speaker 1: think I got mad in the moment because I was
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Speaker 1: trying to stay out of it. But then when I
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Speaker 1: think it was when Dina said the book never touched
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Speaker 1: her hands. That's when I was like, what is she
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Speaker 1: talking about? Like everyone touched it and everyone was talking
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Speaker 1: about it, and it was like this big thing, you know.
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Speaker 1: So I was like no, no, no, Like in the moment,
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Speaker 1: I was like, your hands aren't clean either, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, what are you talking about? So
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Speaker 1: I was talking about the moment that when the book
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Speaker 1: came out and everybody was freaking out and calling.
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Speaker 3: The producers like, why, who are we on the show with.
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Speaker 1: This crazy person? You know, like what's happening? So that's
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Speaker 1: what I was speaking to. I wasn't speaking to Chateau
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Speaker 1: and the book there, and I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: people got those two moments confused. I don't know who
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Speaker 1: was showing the book in the salon, you know, like
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Speaker 1: we heard they both were. Caroline said it was her, Dina,
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Speaker 1: didn't you know. I was referring to, come on, like,
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Speaker 1: you're the one that told us about it. You're the one,
18:59
Speaker 1: you know.
19:00
Speaker 3: That's what I was speaking to. And that's where I
19:02
Speaker 3: kind of got upset.
19:03
Speaker 1: You know.
19:03
Speaker 3: I sat down with Danielle and talked to.
19:05
Speaker 1: Her about it. I wanted to know about it. You know.
19:07
Speaker 1: I was the only one that sat down with her
19:09
Speaker 1: and had the balls to say it to her face,
19:11
Speaker 1: you know, that talk to her about it and find
19:13
Speaker 1: out what's true and what's not true and everything else.
19:16
Speaker 1: So that was really hard to put like a big
19:18
Speaker 1: you know, obviously a big wedge in the family, which
19:21
Speaker 1: really sucks. I'm a very big truth teller, and I
19:24
Speaker 1: get frustrated when people are telling the truth.
19:27
Speaker 2: No, you are a truth teller, And that's the reason
19:29
Speaker 2: why a lot of fans resonated with you because they
19:31
Speaker 2: knew that if Jacqueline said it, then it's true to it. Obviously,
19:34
Speaker 2: Dina exited the show the next season, and then Caroline
19:37
Speaker 2: obviously left the show a few seasons after that, and
19:39
Speaker 2: so did you. What is your current relationship like with
19:42
Speaker 2: Dina and Caroline? Is there a relationship there?
19:44
Speaker 1: The last time I talked to Dina really was when
19:46
Speaker 1: her father passed away. We haven't We used to be
19:49
Speaker 1: super close, like we used to go on vacations together.
19:52
Speaker 1: We used to be super close. The show and everything
19:55
Speaker 1: that happened, like you know, we were feuding, and we
19:58
Speaker 1: didn't speak when her father passed OU really before that
20:01
Speaker 1: a few times when when you know that happened to her,
20:03
Speaker 1: with the breaking down her house and everything. I spoke
20:06
Speaker 1: to her a couple of times, and I'm always open
20:09
Speaker 1: and willing to forgive people and be you know, friendly
20:12
Speaker 1: with people. I think she had a harder time with
20:14
Speaker 1: like letting go of the past, so she kind of
20:17
Speaker 1: keeps like her safe distance. I would say, but like
20:20
Speaker 1: we don't talk, we don't hang out, we don't do anything.
20:23
Speaker 1: My husband has talked to her a few times. My
20:25
Speaker 1: husband is you know, when he's been in California, he's
20:28
Speaker 1: had dinner with her, She's been out to Vegas before,
20:30
Speaker 1: and he's met with her here.
20:32
Speaker 3: But I haven't really hung out with her yet.
20:34
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. I'm moving to the OC, so maybe.
20:38
Speaker 2: Way You're moving to the LC in June Exclusive. Look,
20:44
Speaker 2: jack Lane, we want you on the Real Houseposal of
20:46
Speaker 2: New Jersey. We could go on the LC Housewives.
20:51
Speaker 1: I I at this point in my life, I think
20:54
Speaker 1: I'm done with that, Like that is such stress in
20:58
Speaker 1: my life. I know, it was just I was stressful.
21:01
Speaker 2: Do you have anything fun to do, Jacqueline? I belong
21:07
Speaker 2: to work with you again.
21:08
Speaker 1: You know. During the time of filming, so much was happening,
21:10
Speaker 1: you know, like and it was hard, like dealing with
21:12
Speaker 1: the issues I had with Ashley, and then there's Nicholas was,
21:16
Speaker 1: you know, regressing as we were filming, and then he
21:19
Speaker 1: finally got diagnosed, And I mean, that is a lot
21:22
Speaker 1: to deal with, more than I let on even because
21:26
Speaker 1: I didn't want to keep bringing attention to that, and
21:28
Speaker 1: that was very hard, like privately to deal with. And
21:32
Speaker 1: then you had that the friendship fallout, the fighting.
21:35
Speaker 3: It was a lot for me, it was a lot.
21:38
Speaker 2: Are you in Kroenlinel speaking terms?
21:40
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually I actually just reached out to her
21:43
Speaker 1: with the whole So, Carolyn's not a phone person. We
21:46
Speaker 1: don't get on the phone and sit there and talk
21:48
Speaker 1: for hours, you know, like little texts here and there.
21:50
Speaker 2: She's not a phone person at all.
21:52
Speaker 1: No, So it's you know, Caroline's the type of person
21:55
Speaker 1: you have to be there in front of her. It's different.
21:57
Speaker 1: But I have no ill feelings towards like anyone my family.
22:00
Speaker 1: So yes, I reached out to her when stuff happened
22:04
Speaker 1: with Brandy. I know there's a lot she can't talk
22:06
Speaker 1: about right now.
22:07
Speaker 2: How is she doing after that Brandy Glanville situation?
22:11
Speaker 1: I mean not well, it was very traumatizing. You know.
22:14
Speaker 1: She couldn't really talk to me about a lot of it.
22:16
Speaker 1: So I didn't push it too much, you know, I
22:18
Speaker 1: just wanted to know if she was okay, because originally
22:20
Speaker 1: it came out like I thought she like beat her
22:22
Speaker 1: up or something happened.
22:23
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell happened?
22:25
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's been hard for her. I
22:27
Speaker 1: don't have all the details still, I just you know,
22:30
Speaker 1: I hear stuff in the press and I hear it,
22:32
Speaker 1: you know, but I don't really know. But anytime anybody's
22:35
Speaker 1: like you know, it's not good.
22:38
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and we love you, Carolina. We're praying
22:42
Speaker 2: for you, and you know you have a family over
22:45
Speaker 2: here too, so I just wanted to say that that
22:47
Speaker 2: we love you. And yeah, look, we don't have all
22:49
Speaker 2: the details, like you said, everything is alleged, but at
22:52
Speaker 2: the end of the day, we are praying for Caroline
22:54
Speaker 2: to heal after that situation.
22:56
Speaker 1: Definitely, it's like she went through her traumatic event, Dina
23:00
Speaker 1: would do her traumatic event, and it's just it's yes good.
23:05
Speaker 2: What is good, though, is Teresa and Jacqueline broke the
23:08
Speaker 2: internet with this five hour lunch in Vegas. So let
23:13
Speaker 2: me tell you guys. I have been talking to Jacqueline
23:16
Speaker 2: for months about coming on the podcast, and Jacqueline said,
23:18
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. The time has to be right.
23:20
Speaker 2: I text Jacqueline last week and she said, I maybe
23:23
Speaker 2: having dinner with an old friend and I so I'll
23:29
Speaker 2: let you know after that, and I said, okay, and listen.
23:33
Speaker 2: Because me and Jacqueline are friends and we know each other.
23:36
Speaker 2: I didn't ask who. I kind of figure who it was.
23:39
Speaker 2: My respose was yes.
23:43
Speaker 1: I know because it's funny because I kept seeing like
23:45
Speaker 1: Andy Cone kept bringing up my name on watching it
23:47
Speaker 1: happens live, like with Teresa, I think it's time to
23:50
Speaker 1: end that warn and you know, he would say little
23:53
Speaker 1: things like bringing me up. And I heard her in
23:56
Speaker 1: a few different things where she was saying like, you know,
23:59
Speaker 1: she would talk to me or I knew it was there,
24:02
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to reach out because I didn't
24:04
Speaker 1: want to get back into that world, like I was,
24:06
Speaker 1: I'm good here whatever. You know, I didn't know how
24:09
Speaker 1: she truly felt, because sometimes she'll say one thing I
24:12
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know. And then one morning, I like
24:15
Speaker 1: woke up to a text from her saying she was
24:18
Speaker 1: going to be in Vegas and that she wanted to
24:21
Speaker 1: meet me for a cup of coffee. And then she's like,
24:25
Speaker 1: you can bring Chris, I'm going to have Louis. And
24:27
Speaker 1: I was just like, I like sat up and I
24:29
Speaker 1: like had to look at it again. I'm like, what
24:31
Speaker 1: is this. I was in such shock, and I showed Chris,
24:34
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, wees wants to meet for coffee?
24:37
Speaker 2: What do you think?
24:38
Speaker 1: Like I was just like I didn't know what you know,
24:40
Speaker 1: and Chris was like, you should sit down. It's been
24:42
Speaker 1: a long time. I think you should sit down and
24:44
Speaker 1: talk to her. Just hear her out, see what she
24:46
Speaker 1: has to say. And so we agreed to meet with her.
24:48
Speaker 1: We were going to meet for breakfast.
24:49
Speaker 3: But then we ended up meeting for lunch instead the
24:51
Speaker 3: day before.
24:52
Speaker 1: And I was like excited to see her, and it
24:55
Speaker 1: was just weird when I saw her. And you know
24:57
Speaker 1: how we fight, like we're two tauruses. We'd go ahead
25:00
Speaker 1: head it's like collision, you know, but we saw each other,
25:03
Speaker 1: we literally almost like it was almost like running towards
25:06
Speaker 1: each other to hug each other. And she sat down
25:08
Speaker 1: next to me. Louis sat across from Chris. We were
25:11
Speaker 1: at Tiffriyani's at the Wynn in Las Vegas, and we
25:15
Speaker 1: just started like talking like no time it passed, and
25:19
Speaker 1: we didn't even really address the old issues. We were
25:23
Speaker 1: just like catching each other up on everything they were
25:26
Speaker 1: telling me about. You know, she has a step son, now, Nicholas,
25:30
Speaker 1: who also has autism, you know, and his name is Nicholas.
25:33
Speaker 1: So we were talking a lot about that and how
25:36
Speaker 1: that came about, and you know, some of their stories
25:38
Speaker 1: and we were exchanging stories and just really catching up.
25:42
Speaker 1: I know everyone was like, oh, they're meeting to you know,
25:45
Speaker 1: do something with and I was kind of waiting to
25:47
Speaker 1: see if there was like another motive to it, you know,
25:50
Speaker 1: but there wasn't.
25:51
Speaker 3: She was very genuine and just so sweet.
25:55
Speaker 1: We both kind of just said, you know, during the
25:57
Speaker 1: time of the show, we were both going through things
25:59
Speaker 1: in our life that was very stressful. We have a
26:02
Speaker 1: lot of pressure being on the show, not only from producers,
26:05
Speaker 1: but people in our ears, you know, from people on
26:08
Speaker 1: the cats or outside influences and stuff. So when you
26:11
Speaker 1: have a lot of people in your ears and you're
26:13
Speaker 1: under a lot of stress and your things are happening
26:15
Speaker 1: on the show, you don't really know who to trust. Anyway,
26:18
Speaker 1: It's very hard to make up and maintain a friendship
26:21
Speaker 1: on a show like that because you know, it's kind
26:23
Speaker 1: of about coming out with things. You could be thinking
26:26
Speaker 1: something in your head and this was very hard for
26:28
Speaker 1: me in the first interviews, but you don't say it
26:31
Speaker 1: out loud because it hurts somebody's feelings, right, But you
26:34
Speaker 1: learn on the show after a while, but the audience
26:36
Speaker 1: doesn't know what you're thinking, So you've got to say
26:39
Speaker 1: whatever it is you're thinking, to put it out there
26:41
Speaker 1: so the audience knows what you're thinking. Because you are
26:43
Speaker 1: on a show, I think more things are brought to
26:45
Speaker 1: the surface than need to be when you're on a
26:48
Speaker 1: reality show. And especially what people don't understand too, is
26:51
Speaker 1: if there's a lot of things going on in the
26:53
Speaker 1: press and the media, it has to be talked about
26:55
Speaker 1: on camera because you can't have all this going on
26:58
Speaker 1: out here and then it not discussed on the show.
27:00
Speaker 1: So like when you're being told, listen, everybody on the
27:02
Speaker 1: show is talking about this and this and this, you
27:05
Speaker 1: have to talk about it too. It causes a lot
27:07
Speaker 1: of problems. So now that we're I'm away from the show,
27:10
Speaker 1: I'm We're both in really good places in our lives.
27:14
Speaker 1: We're both really happy in our lives where they are
27:16
Speaker 1: right now and everything. I think that makes it easier
27:19
Speaker 1: when you're away from the drama, you're away from the
27:22
Speaker 1: toxic energy of the show, that now we can actually
27:25
Speaker 1: because we were friends before the show, we're able to
27:28
Speaker 1: be friends again after the show and just ignore, basically,
27:33
Speaker 1: just forget the time on the show, because it's hard
27:36
Speaker 1: to maintain a friendship when you're on the show because
27:38
Speaker 1: something else is going to come around that's going to
27:40
Speaker 1: cause a problem, you know, somewhere.
27:42
Speaker 2: The elephant in the room is the fact that Teresa
27:44
Speaker 2: was dealing with a lot of legal stuff. Teresa was
27:48
Speaker 2: on the cover of those tabloids every week, and at
27:51
Speaker 2: that time, I wasn't producing the show, but I get
27:53
Speaker 2: as a producer, if it's in the press, you have
27:56
Speaker 2: to talk about it. And the one thing that I
27:58
Speaker 2: remember watching the show was Teresa didn't want to address
28:02
Speaker 2: anything because I think some embarrassment was happening. You were
28:05
Speaker 2: obviously like, I'm your friend, but I'm also doing my job.
28:07
Speaker 2: It was weird, and that's why I appreciate the fact
28:10
Speaker 2: that in this five hour lunch you don't have to
28:13
Speaker 2: address anything in the past because it's the past. And
28:16
Speaker 2: what I tell people about Teresa is when I spoke
28:19
Speaker 2: to her recently, she's the same woman. She's so funny.
28:23
Speaker 2: And the fact that we saw loosing fl get back
28:25
Speaker 2: together it made everyone happy because it goes to show
28:28
Speaker 2: you that the issue you and Teresa had honestly, Jacqueline,
28:31
Speaker 2: as a viewer at that time, watching it, I'm like,
28:34
Speaker 2: it's not that serious.
28:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we said hurtful things to each other
28:38
Speaker 1: about each other, honestly, Like I haven't seen the Housewives
28:41
Speaker 1: of New Jersey in years. I watched the reunions because
28:44
Speaker 1: it kind of tells me the whole story. And I've
28:45
Speaker 1: caught like a few key episodes and someone's like, oh,
28:48
Speaker 1: you have to see you know this whatever, But like
28:50
Speaker 1: on the reunions, she was very different like the person
28:54
Speaker 1: I saw in the reunion In person, she was much
28:58
Speaker 1: more humbled, very we very like. Her demeanor was very
29:03
Speaker 1: different and just she was reminded me of the old Teresa.
29:07
Speaker 1: I was like very happy to see her, and it
29:10
Speaker 1: just like we picked up like no time had passed
29:13
Speaker 1: and just laughing, talking, catching up with the girls. Gabriella
29:16
Speaker 1: called while I was on the phone with her, Oh,
29:19
Speaker 1: so I got to see her, and so it was
29:21
Speaker 1: just really nice. And I had heard things about Louis,
29:24
Speaker 1: but I didn't know anything about him, you know, I
29:26
Speaker 1: just had heard things from other people.
29:28
Speaker 3: I met him, I loved him. I thought he was
29:30
Speaker 3: the nicest person.
29:31
Speaker 1: You could tell he was very caring, an upbeat and positive,
29:34
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, Teresa's been wanting to
29:36
Speaker 1: reach out to you for a long time, and you know,
29:38
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she did it, so that made me happy.
29:41
Speaker 1: I'm like she wanted to, but I think she knows
29:43
Speaker 1: me like anybody who extends an olive branch. That was
29:46
Speaker 1: meaningful of my life before with Teresa. We have a
29:50
Speaker 1: history before the show and her I was just very
29:54
Speaker 1: open to it.
29:55
Speaker 3: It was like her fifth time making up.
29:57
Speaker 1: But I think this time is for good.
29:59
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you different. I reconnected with Teresa, who
30:02
Speaker 2: was so apologetic. She was like, I didn't invite you
30:04
Speaker 2: to my wedding. I'm so sorry, Teresa. Our friendship is
30:07
Speaker 2: not predicated on an invite your wedding. We picked up
30:10
Speaker 2: where we left off. What you said the Teresa who
30:13
Speaker 2: we talked to Jacqueline, that's not the person that's on
30:16
Speaker 2: the show. And when I say that, I'm going to
30:18
Speaker 2: say this because she's on the show with her brother
30:20
Speaker 2: and her sister in law and with people who are
30:22
Speaker 2: dealing with dramatic things. Teresa has to have her guard
30:27
Speaker 2: up because she doesn't know and you know this being
30:30
Speaker 2: on the shoe.
30:32
Speaker 1: Shoulder, like who's bringing up what? Who's gonna say what?
30:35
Speaker 2: Who's yes? And I'm glad you said that the fact
30:37
Speaker 2: that Teresa humbly reached out to you, the Teresa who
30:41
Speaker 2: you see on the show, you would think she'd be like, no, bitch,
30:44
Speaker 2: you need to reach out to me. It's bitch better,
30:45
Speaker 2: you know, like all that bad. Yeah, But but she's
30:50
Speaker 2: she's so sweet. And one thing I will say to
30:54
Speaker 2: the audience, and I'm glad you can echo this is
30:57
Speaker 2: she literally is the same person. Obviously met her two
31:01
Speaker 2: thousand and eight doing the show, but you knew her
31:03
Speaker 2: before that that's who she is. And I think again,
31:06
Speaker 2: her brother in law and Melissa just makes it hard
31:09
Speaker 2: for her. A lot of people wanted to know because
31:12
Speaker 2: you know, listen, I share that based on my conversation
31:15
Speaker 2: with Teresa that she called me to let me know
31:18
Speaker 2: she just found out Melissa was joining the show.
31:20
Speaker 3: So I didn't know that she was also trying to
31:22
Speaker 3: contact you.
31:23
Speaker 1: I knew that afterwards that she was like reaching out
31:25
Speaker 1: to Danielle telling her stuff. I found out later, but
31:28
Speaker 1: I didn't know she was reaching out to producers trying
31:30
Speaker 1: to get on the show. But the way I saw
31:32
Speaker 1: that she got on the show, and then I'll tell
31:34
Speaker 1: you Teresa's reaction and all that I thought because when
31:37
Speaker 1: we would film, because Teresa always invited them to, like
31:39
Speaker 1: the baby shower, the christening, her housewarming party. They were
31:42
Speaker 1: there during filming, but Teresa always used to say while
31:45
Speaker 1: we were Mike, don't talk to Melissa. She just wants
31:48
Speaker 1: her face on camera, Like she knew what Melissa was about,
31:52
Speaker 1: so she didn't want her to be noticed and on camera.
31:54
Speaker 1: So guess what. As Teresa's friend, I didn't talk to
31:57
Speaker 1: Melissa because I knew that Teresa didn't want me too,
32:00
Speaker 1: so I didn't have anything to do with her because
32:03
Speaker 1: of that. But she's saying that in her microphone. I'm
32:06
Speaker 1: thinking the producers are hearing this, and she's like, who
32:09
Speaker 1: doesn't she want filmed? Who's Melissa? Who you know? And
32:14
Speaker 1: then she's on Facebook and you guys always look for
32:16
Speaker 1: who's friends with, who related to who? They see them
32:19
Speaker 1: fighting on Facebook over the Sprinkle cookies or something, and
32:22
Speaker 1: I think that drew their attention even more. The producers. Actually,
32:26
Speaker 1: a produce another producer told me this. They were looking
32:29
Speaker 1: at that like she doesn't want to be around them.
32:31
Speaker 1: They're fighting on social media.
32:32
Speaker 3: She was feeding Danielle.
32:34
Speaker 1: With stuff information and I remember Melissa was scared about
32:37
Speaker 1: that at one point she didn't want Danielle to come
32:39
Speaker 1: out with what she had said to her.
32:41
Speaker 3: And she didn't tell me what she said to her,
32:43
Speaker 3: but I can imagine.
32:44
Speaker 1: What it all was then with her. I guess talking
32:47
Speaker 1: to you, trying to get on the show and everything,
32:49
Speaker 1: that's what kind of got them on the show. It
32:50
Speaker 1: was about a week before filming when she found out,
32:53
Speaker 1: I think, because I remember the christening was going to
32:56
Speaker 1: be the first scene that they filmed. So Teresa was like,
32:59
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this show, Like, I'm not filming with them.
33:01
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it. She was so against it,
33:04
Speaker 1: And I said, Teresa, why don't you just call your brother,
33:06
Speaker 1: make up with them before you start filming and come
33:08
Speaker 1: to an agreement that you're not going to fight on camera,
33:11
Speaker 1: that you're just going to put the ship behind you,
33:14
Speaker 1: you know, if they if they're going to be on
33:15
Speaker 1: the show, get to a good place with them before filming.
33:18
Speaker 1: And Teresa was like, fuck that, I'm not talking. You know.
33:21
Speaker 1: She was so mad. She would not talk to them,
33:24
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I really think you should talk to
33:26
Speaker 1: them before filming. Nope, nope, no. The night before the christening,
33:29
Speaker 1: she still hadn't signed her contracts because I think we
33:31
Speaker 1: had like renewed our contracts. We're getting more money or whatever.
33:35
Speaker 1: She hadn't signed the night before, and I was like, Teresa,
33:39
Speaker 1: I said, are you seriously going to go to this
33:41
Speaker 1: christening tomorrow while they're miked up and have the cameras
33:45
Speaker 1: all around them filming on the show that you put
33:49
Speaker 1: on the map, you know, and you're just gonna hand
33:52
Speaker 1: it over to them, and you're going to watch them
33:53
Speaker 1: from across the room, watch them filming. Then you called her.
33:57
Speaker 2: She hung over.
33:58
Speaker 1: You were calling her.
34:04
Speaker 2: Yes, pill it, Jaqueline, Yeah. And then I.
34:06
Speaker 1: Guess you talked her into it.
34:07
Speaker 2: I don't know how you did it, because I did,
34:10
Speaker 2: I said to Teresa. So Jacqueline's right. I called her
34:13
Speaker 2: back because Teresa called me and she said, I'm not filming.
34:16
Speaker 2: I said, look, listen here, Teresa, this is your show.
34:20
Speaker 2: You're not going to let anyone run you off your show.
34:23
Speaker 1: Exactly.
34:25
Speaker 2: Sign the contract and go to work tomorrow. And mind you,
34:28
Speaker 2: I'm not a producer on the show anymore. But because
34:31
Speaker 2: I love you, ladies, I said, go to work tomorrow,
34:34
Speaker 2: and she said, okay, Fino.
34:35
Speaker 1: So what happened was instead of talking to him before
34:40
Speaker 1: she started filming and resolving it. She kind of thought,
34:43
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna act like nothing's wrong on camera, and
34:46
Speaker 1: she went over to put her arms around, like, hey, guys,
34:49
Speaker 1: what's going on guys?
34:50
Speaker 2: You know, like she.
34:53
Speaker 1: And then they were like, now you're being nice to us,
34:56
Speaker 1: like they called her out on Cara. She was gonna
34:59
Speaker 1: just to pretend like nothing was wrong, you know, but
35:02
Speaker 1: if they wanted to come on the show and be peaceful,
35:04
Speaker 1: why do that? Like I talked to them about it,
35:07
Speaker 1: and they were so adamant about not they weren't going
35:10
Speaker 1: to try to hurt her and you know that kind
35:12
Speaker 1: of thing. But they're really good at playing the vay
35:15
Speaker 1: Like they had a lot of stories about how Teresa
35:18
Speaker 1: treated them and like a lot of things. I think
35:20
Speaker 1: that they were just very I think they were upset
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Speaker 1: that they weren't included on her show when she was
35:26
Speaker 1: on the show, and so now they're like, all right,
35:28
Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, we're going to get on our
35:30
Speaker 1: own way kind of thing.
35:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, And do you feel like that was the same
35:33
Speaker 2: for Kathy and Rosie too.
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Speaker 1: No, Kathy wasn't after Terri's like, no, I think Kathy
35:39
Speaker 1: just like someone had approached her about being on the show.
35:42
Speaker 1: I guess through Melissa the Facebook or whatever. We had
35:47
Speaker 1: reached out to her, and she didn't say anything at
35:49
Speaker 1: first to Teresa because she didn't even know if they
35:52
Speaker 1: were going to pick her, and she didn't want to
35:54
Speaker 1: go through the whole interviewing process and then not get
35:56
Speaker 1: on it and then have to be like, yeah, so
35:58
Speaker 1: they didn't pick me for your show, you know kind
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Speaker 1: of thing. So she was waiting to see if she
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Speaker 1: got it first before she decided for sure if she
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Speaker 1: was going to do it or not, and she was
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Speaker 1: gonna tell Teresa, but then she had gone away first.
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Speaker 1: They were trying to decide, Okay, are we really doing this,
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Speaker 1: and then when she got back, Teresa had already found out,
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Speaker 1: and then it was like a whole thing. But like,
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Speaker 1: I think she was going to tell her, and I
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Speaker 1: don't think Cathy's plan was to like get it. I
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Speaker 1: don't think she felt the same way about Teresa. They're
36:24
Speaker 1: like Melissa and jo did agreed.
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Speaker 2: Now that makes sense, That makes a lot of sense.
36:28
Speaker 2: Do you have any regrets on the show?
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Speaker 3: I mean, do I think I always handled myself?
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Speaker 1: Well? No, you know how it is like a lot
36:36
Speaker 1: of the scenes are cut out too, and you're not
36:38
Speaker 1: seeing the whole picture. That, like what got me to
36:40
Speaker 1: certain places weren't shown, so that was annoying. I can't
36:44
Speaker 1: say that I regreted, just because I always feel like
36:48
Speaker 1: in life, things happened for a reason. You learn lessons
36:51
Speaker 1: you I don't know, things happened to move you forward
36:54
Speaker 1: and grow from.
36:56
Speaker 2: And I loved you on the show because you were
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Speaker 2: always yourself and my match's point. Producing the first two
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Speaker 2: seasons and then watching the rest of the seasons. I
37:06
Speaker 2: don't see any regrets based on you because you always
37:10
Speaker 2: did what you wanted to do, and you were always
37:13
Speaker 2: authentically you. You never wavered from like Carlos, this is
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Speaker 2: my truth, and I'm only going to do what I
37:22
Speaker 2: feel is right, whether it gives me in trouble with
37:24
Speaker 2: the family or my friendships.
37:27
Speaker 1: I used to get calls from the producers the higher ups,
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Speaker 1: like because I wouldn't do something or like whatever, and
37:33
Speaker 1: I would get in trouble and.
37:34
Speaker 2: You did not even show up to a reunion.
37:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't show it to there because you know what,
37:38
Speaker 3: I thought.
37:38
Speaker 1: I quit it that way. I don't know if people realized.
37:41
Speaker 1: But like, we wrapped season four finale the night before
37:44
Speaker 1: season three reunion, and we were not in a good place.
37:48
Speaker 1: I had already shut down off of filming. I didn't
37:50
Speaker 1: know that my contract still had me on there another year,
37:52
Speaker 1: so I had to come back the next season. But
37:56
Speaker 1: but I really felt like I couldn't take any more.
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Speaker 1: That was at the height of Nick's regression. He was
38:02
Speaker 1: not diagnosed it he was about to be diagnosed. I
38:05
Speaker 1: was fighting with. It was just so much negativity and
38:09
Speaker 1: the whole Strippergate thing that like disgusted me that that
38:12
Speaker 1: was like the whole thing. And like I had heard
38:15
Speaker 1: they were bringing in Danielle was going to be there,
38:17
Speaker 1: kim Ge was going to be there. I'm texting Caroline going, oh,
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Speaker 1: you're the target tonight, kim GE's on our way, you know,
38:23
Speaker 1: Like because we were all trying to figure out who
38:25
Speaker 1: the target was, because you know, the finale, someone's always
38:28
Speaker 1: the target, and we wanted to know who the target was.
38:30
Speaker 1: So like anytime I would hear something, I'd be like,
38:32
Speaker 1: it's you. We were trying to figure it out. I
38:39
Speaker 1: couldn't go to the season three reunion to pretend like
38:42
Speaker 1: I'm great with Teresa, you know, because they didn't break
38:46
Speaker 1: that fourth wall.
38:46
Speaker 3: Then well they kind of did it that reunion.
38:49
Speaker 2: Well they had to because you're such a big part
38:51
Speaker 2: of the show that they had to explain it somewhat.
38:53
Speaker 1: I like, seriously have the biggest breakdown. I was like
38:56
Speaker 1: my life Like at the time, I'm like with Nick
38:58
Speaker 1: fighting the pressures the show, how ugly the show gets.
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Speaker 1: I just didn't want any part of it. I was
39:03
Speaker 1: like screaming at the producers. You guys, it's like so bad.
39:08
Speaker 1: I was like, not in a good place. I cried,
39:11
Speaker 1: like it was terrible.
39:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, look you're in a great place now. How is
39:14
Speaker 2: Ashley doing. Ashley's good.
39:18
Speaker 1: She's got, you know, my grandson Cameron, who's now six,
39:21
Speaker 1: and he's like the cutest thing. Like I love facetiming
39:24
Speaker 1: with him. It just sucks that he's not here all
39:26
Speaker 1: the time for me to, you know, but I spoil
39:29
Speaker 1: him from Afar and she's a good mommy with him,
39:32
Speaker 1: and you know, she's just she lives in New Jersey
39:36
Speaker 1: and I live here.
39:37
Speaker 2: What was the last time you spoke to Danielle Season
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Speaker 2: two reunion? Oh?
39:41
Speaker 1: Really?
39:42
Speaker 2: Yeah?
39:43
Speaker 3: Because remember she like hugged me and she's like yes. Well,
39:46
Speaker 3: then we had gone to.
39:47
Speaker 1: Do press and someone from the press outlet told me
39:52
Speaker 1: she was trying to give them or tell them stories
39:54
Speaker 1: about me. And they were like, yeah, she's trying to
39:57
Speaker 1: give us these stories about you that blah blah blah
39:59
Speaker 1: blah blah.
39:59
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what I thought we made a truth?
40:01
Speaker 1: Like why is she doing that? One of her friends
40:04
Speaker 1: or fans or whatever turned on her started sending me
40:07
Speaker 1: all their private dms where she was telling that girl
40:10
Speaker 1: to attack me on social media and put.
40:12
Speaker 3: This out and I was just like, what is she doing?
40:14
Speaker 3: Like why is she doing that?
40:15
Speaker 1: And then she was telling lies about my daughter to people,
40:18
Speaker 1: things that weren't even true, and so I was like,
40:21
Speaker 1: how can she just make this kind of stuff up
40:23
Speaker 1: about people that to me is a dangerous person. And
40:26
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm not having anything to do
40:28
Speaker 1: with her.
40:29
Speaker 2: Are you open to a five hour lunch with Danielle? No?
40:32
Speaker 1: Because I wasn't friends with her before the show? Yeah, No,
40:35
Speaker 1: she too many dangerous lies and things it to me,
40:40
Speaker 1: It's just I would rather keep my distance.
40:42
Speaker 2: Would you ever do Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip?
40:46
Speaker 1: Everybody asked me this. The thing is could I handle
40:50
Speaker 1: two weeks on a girl's trip. Yes, I could handle it.
40:54
Speaker 1: I could have fun even if I fought for two weeks.
40:57
Speaker 1: It's two weeks of my life. I could handle it.
40:59
Speaker 1: But really, sickly, I can't do it because I don't
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Speaker 1: have a sitter for two weeks. Long for me to
41:05
Speaker 1: go on a trip like that to watch Nicholas.
41:07
Speaker 2: It's only seven days. It is. You're there for like
41:10
Speaker 2: seven days maximum, and then you get to go home.
41:13
Speaker 1: Oh well even seven days?
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Speaker 3: No, no, but even seven days. Who would watch my
41:18
Speaker 3: son for seven days?
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Speaker 2: All right?
41:20
Speaker 1: Maybe with a combination of like CJ, my mom, Chris,
41:27
Speaker 1: maybe I could juggle it. Maybe. But if anybody wants
41:31
Speaker 1: to touch my boobies and vagina unwont wanted, I won't
41:37
Speaker 1: say what I want to do.
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Speaker 2: Jaccoline, thank you so much, bro appearing on the pod listen.
41:44
Speaker 2: I am so happy you did this. I know you're
41:46
Speaker 2: a busy woman and you have a lot going on
41:49
Speaker 2: with the kids and everything. I just want to say
41:51
Speaker 2: thank you so much. I love you, I adore you.
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